>NO NICK, DON'T SEND GODOT TO PRISON! NOT THE MAN WHO MURDERED MY OWN MOTHER IN FRONT OF ME! NOT THE MAN WHO PUT ME DIRECTLY IN THE PATH OF A SERIAL KILLER! NOT THE MAN WHO WAS WILLING TO KILL MY COUSIN WHO'S LIKE A LITTLE SISTER TO ME! NOT THE MAN WHO TRIED TO PIN MY MOTHER'S MURDER ON YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND ME! PLEASE NICK DON'T SEND HIM TO PRISON!
She's moronic, that's why susato is the best assistant and the canonical grandmother of Phoenix
That’s a bit strange when you put it like that
what's the strange part?
Phoenix Wright is a pure red, white and blue blood american.
He ain't got no oriental lineage
it's possible that Naruhodo's son married to an American woman
>we wuz anime n shieet
That's right.
He's a frenchman.
>Lotta is from Marseille
That was kino for the child me
>Susato never overstays her welcome and she's actually missed when she leaves to go back to Japan.
GAA was surprisingly well-balanced in it's character interactions and relationships.
Yeah, and she wasn't just the same brand of bubbly as most assistants. I only wish she were less throw-happy
Who?
Anon, take your meds.
Wha-
Where'd she go?
Can people not bring up Susato while shitting on Maya?
Susato wishes. Phoenix knows who his grandma is, and her name is Gina.
woman moment
This. It only seems like a contradiction until you learn that women start ovulating in the presence of uber violent men
He was fricking her sister so he's a good guy
She only knew that first part, and it was out of necessity. She didn't know Godot had a way of preventing this whole mess. She was completely not present for any of the trial proceedings. Iris was already shown to be innocent by the time Maya testifies.
>She only knew that first part
nah, all of Godot's shenanigans are revealed in her presence, including saying that he'd have totally murdered Pearl, and she still simps for him like the thot she is
That's after he confesses.
This image is moronic because Godot literally says that he could've just hidden the letter, but chose not to. He wanted to play the hero, because what he's actually so upset about the entire game is that HE didn't protect Mia, so he wanted to heroically save Maya. Did you motherfrickers not play the game or are you entirely incapable of reading subtext?
The problem is that after Godot confesses, everyone treats him like some tragic hero who just made a teensy mistake because he was in a bad mental state. The game goes way too hard on making him sympathetic when what he did was unambiguously wrong.
Yeah, there's something to be said for the game going too easy on him, but I feel like people exaggerate this point too much. I get the feeling he's painted primarily as a tragic character. Sympathetic, yeah, maybe too sympathetic, but I never got the feeling the game was trying to tell me he did nothing wrong.
> I never got the feeling the game was trying to tell me he did nothing wrong.
that's because you're a blind, illiterate homosexual
both Phoenix and Maya (our two leads) aggressively simp for him and say he was just trying to help, while he himself backhandedly says that "mistakes were made"
neither of them react the way they should, considering both them and their other close associates almost got killed by that monstrous fricking moron, on top of Maya seeing that frick kill her mother in front of her eyes
play the game homosexual
>The game goes way too hard on making him sympathetic when what he did was unambiguously wrong.
They pulled the same shit with Acro in Turnabout Big Top.
nah, Acro is symphathetic because his motivations are completely understandable
he got fricked over by Regina to a comical degree, and just sucked it up until he had enough
His motivations can be understandable and still wrong. It doesn't make sense for everyone, including Regina, to immediately forgive him for trying to kill somebody over an accident. Besides, he should have been mad at the ringmaster for allowing his moronic teenage daughter to play with dangerous animals, not at the moron herself.
This, if Arco had to murder anyone it should have been her dumbass father for letting a literal moron handle dangerous animals that can and will KILL people without proper training
you didn't frickin play the game either
>Implying that matters
People are driven to murder for less, it would have been a better excuse too (but still wrong)
>admits to not playing the game
that settles it then, homosexual
frick off
Make me homosexual
>homosexual(you):"I didn't play the game"
>homosexual(you):"What do you mean my opinion is irrelevant REEEE"
Absolutely seething
>he should have been mad at the ringmaster
the ringmaster was basically like a dad to him
him and his bro were street urchins before Berry took the in at his circus
did you even play the game?
Alright so what did Acro think his adopted dad would feel if he would to kill his Adopted dad's literal daughter? Let's be honest here, he didn't give a frick what Mr. Berry thought.
Why are you backpedalling, Black person?
YOU said that he should've been le mad at the ringmaster, to which I said that you're a dumb homosexual that clearly never played the game, because Acro outright says he owes his life to him.
You're the one who made the shitty argument, autismo, don't get indignant just because you're wrong.
not that anon bro, there's more then one person who thinks 2-3 is bad.
The game could have brought up the fact that he's ultimately responsible for the accident but have Acro be too blinded by his gratitude to admit it to himself, but instead it's just glossed over. The fact that he was ready to commit first-degree murder as revenge for an accident, and even misdirect his anger at someone who couldn't be held accountable, makes him a psycho who shouldn't have been forgiven so easily.
>Acro should be le mad at the guy who wasn't responsible, and is devoted to!
>instead of the c**t that was responsible!
What level of fricking autistic moron thinks like this?
>It was just le accident!!!! Forget the fact that he's permanently in a wheelchair and his brother is a vegetable!
Yet again, what level of autistic homosexual cannot comprehend sth so simple and logical?
He's not right to try and kill her, but his hatred towards her is 100% completely and utterly natural. Only an aspie riddled homosexual cannot comprehend this.
>child's shitbull gets loose and mauls someone
>child is held responsible, not the parents for even allowing that situation to happen in the first place
They all knew that she was immature but did nothing about it until it was too late.
she's a 16 year old, you dumb homosexual
and she made her shitbull maul the other person by literally slathering him in pepper
quick question, she's old enough to want to marry right?
Yes
atleast 2 people are actively trying to marry her in that case alone
>she's a 16 year old, you dumb homosexual
Yes and it was established that she was less mature than someone of her age should be. Acro still tried to kill her anyways, knowing that she wasn't capable of understanding what just happened.
nobody cares cuck, she still did it
being oblivious does not absolve her of ruining 2 lives
You would have a point if she had the malice to hurt them in the first place. It was, at worst, manslaughter and Acro was still blaming the wrong person anyways, as the circus crew knew that Regina wasn't mentally qualified to handle such a dangerous job and yet they still allowed her anyways. Going after the lion wouldn't satisfy his thirst for revenge, so he went for the closest person to it, even though she never intended for that to happen and it was ultimately a horrible accident.
When a drunk driver kills someone the family is going to get mad at them whether the driver has any "malice" or not
Anger is a reasonable reaction to that. I'm assuming that you mean an adult driver who understood the risks of drinking before driving and the accident was caused by their own lack of regards for the safety of others.
>person mad at person that literally directly caused everything
>seething autistic Black person cannot comprehend this
you are genuinely on the fricking spectrum, and you don't even realize how blatant it is
The franchise has a bunch of dumb bubbly teenagers, Maya included, that doesn't mean people are going to pretend she has zero agency over her actions like she's some unthinking weather disaster
The difference is that Maya isn't sheltered, she is capable of following common sense and understanding the consequences of her actions. Regina's shtick is that she was stuck in her own little world, not grasping what was around her and acting inappropriately at times. You gotta remember that we aren't discussing this from a legal standpoint (she would obviously be prosecuted for manslaughter in that case) but from a moral standpoint. Is Acro justified in targeting her in the first place?
It's also good to remember that Acro was being driven by revenge. People who seek the satisfaction of getting revenge on someone will sometimes switch from their original target to the closest person that they can associate with that. This can happen because the original target is either unreachable (very rich guy, dead guy) or something incapable of intent (natural disaster, wild animal). In Acro's case, he was mad at the tragedy and the lion, but getting revenge on the lion wouldn't satisfy his desire, so he went for the person who was close to it instead. Acro knew that she was sheltered, that she never intended that to happen or understood the risks, but still acted as if it was an intentional doing, as if she was willingly trying to hurt him and his brother.
The person who caused it you mean, you're making it sound like she just happened to be close to the incident, but she was responsible for it, and her being slow in the head isn't enough to remove his resentment towards her. Probably doesn't help she'd talk about the victim as stars though this one I don't actually blame on her but it'd still make those affected get more bitter
I still consider it an accident but I brought up manslaughter since it's more coherent with what happened (the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought). She was obviously not planning on hurting either of them.
>Probably doesn't help she'd talk about the victim as stars
That's part of the reason why I'm going so light on her. She was 16 and thought that the puppet was real. She thought that people who died became stars in the sky. She was clearly sheltered and extremely naive, so it's not far fetched to think that she didn't see lions as dangerous animals that would maul people if she played a totally not dangerous prank. Acro is gonna get angry regardless because that's the healthy reaction to a tragedy like that happening. it didn't helped either that Regina didn't grasp the weight of someone dying, so she couldn't even feel empathy for his situation. But going as far as trying to kill the girl for revenge was too much.
>That's part of the reason why I'm going so light on her.
thanks for reaffirming you being a giant autistic moron
Not him but i'm just saying, Why not Yell at her first? Why not beat her second? Why not rape her third? Why are we jumping straight to murder?
because it's a game about murder mysteries
Good point, but at that point we're trying to justify Acro's behavior in a Meta Narrative sense instead of an In-universe one, its logical for him to want to kill her, but Jumping straight to murder is the moronic thing to do.
>Is Acro justified in targeting her in the first place?
yes
because she did it
targeting anyone else wouldn't be justified or rational
fricking autistic moron
>schizoBlack person fanfiction about Acro wanting le revengeance on the lion
none of your schizoid homosexualry is in the game, you unhinged autistic subhuman
frick off
>BUH BUH IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT WAAAAAAAH
nobody cares Black person, guy is in a wheelchair and his brother is a vegetable
it's her fault, the end
stay mad
>just happened to be close to the incident, but she was responsible for it
Reminder that it wasnt just because it was Regina's lion that Acro was pissed.
Regina was purposefully trying to prank Acro's brother by putting pepper in his handkerchief, which caused the lion to sneeze.
>going into an Ace Attorney thread on Ganker
>specifically a Godot hate thread
>that also has an argument about Acro vs Regina
>being shocked that it is filled with autistic homosexuals
Not saying you're wrong, though
>guy with a disability forges a moronic plan to get revenge over a tragic accident by targeting an innocent girl and the game attempts to guilt trip you because "muh sad backstory"
You are onto something.
>an innocent girl
You mean the moron whose lion maimed two people due to her moronation?
She's basically a big child. It's hard to blame her for it when she's too emotionally immature to even perceive the danger.
Oh please, that's a shitty cope. Acro wanting to murder that b***h after she made him a cripple and his bro a potato is the most justified motive in the series.
Acro worked with them long enough to know that she was a sheltered girl but ultimately meant well, too innocent to wish anyone harm. If we are talking responsibility, it was her father who was to blame for letting his daughter tame such dangerous animals without supervision. Acro's desire to satisfy his own anger wasn't senseless but misplaced, as he couldn't get revenge on an animal for being an animal, so he went for the second closest thing instead. It's part of why he was a tragic character but it doesn't mean that Regina is a malicious person who deserved being targeted.
>"ultimately meant well"
>lolol you are in a wheelchair and your bro is a potato UwU oopsie
>"BTW HER DAD IS EBUL AND ACRO SHOULD HATE HIM >:("
Sounds like you're projecting your own daddy issues on the situation, gay.
Innocence and ignorance go hand to hand. I'm sorry that you are struggling to understand such a simple archetype.
You seem to be struggling with the fact the game wasn't about your daddy issues, Black person.
Not an argument. This conversation is over.
>literally running away from the convo
bullseye on you projecting daddy issues, kek
>homosexual makes up fanfiction
>"you guys didn't play the game"
lmao, play the game for once in your life, troon
Godot makes it painfully clear that his plan was a 100% genuine attempt to save Maya, despite how moronic it is everyone treats it as such, and his last confessions is just him realizing that he was too arrogant to get Phoenix involved and maaaaaybe he cared more about rubbing it in Phoenix's face (he literally says "I don't know why I did it anymore")
your
>He wanted to play the hero,
is just your HRT fueled headcannon contradicted by the game itself, stay mad
>Godot makes it painfully clear that his plan was a 100% genuine attempt to save Maya
You went and made me look up the actual script to prove that this is moronic:
>I suppose... I wasn't really interested in saving you at all.
>I was trying to make up for the fact that I couldn't save Mia. Nothing more. That's why I let you walk right into a situation that I knew was dangerous.
"I let you walk into a dangerous situation" means he knew that he had the choice to stop that situation from occurring, but he chose not to. He plainly spells out his reason for not doing so.
Maya is repressing her feelings at the end of the game because she's being strong for Pearl. Phoenix goes "I don't really know how I feel about how things went down today" and Mia shows up to say that he did the right thing by convicting Godot. At no point do they say "I sure am glad Godot killed my mom". Like I said, I agree they could stand to condemn him a bit more, but at no point in the ending do they say he was fully in the right either.
> made me look up the actual script
thank you for proving that you never played the game, subhuman trannoid homosexual
>means he knew that he had the choice
no, he only realized he let things happen during the trial, wikiBlack person-kun
and then everyone says that he did it to save Maya anyway, Phoenix the cuck practically growelling to absolve Godot of any responsibility
you'd know this if you played the game
go play it for once, then have a nice day
>At no point do they say "I sure am glad Godot killed my mom".
holy autistic brainrotted troony
get it through your HRT infused brain
ANY REACTION TO YOUR MOTHER'S MURDERER BESIDES
>FRICK YOU, YOU PIECE OF SHIT
IS HACK GARBAGE SIMPING FOR THE MURDERER
>mentions trannies 6 times in 2 posts apropos of nothing at all
>continues to make shit up to fuel his NTR fantasies
>says things like "stay mad" while typing all caps rants
Calm down son, it's only a video game. If Godot saying "I wasn't really interested in saving you" doesn't convince you that he wasn't really interested in saving Maya, then clearly nothing will, I'm not gonna keep wasting my time on this.
>seething troony upset at being called out
turns out wikiBlack personing doesn't make up for you never having played the game, bandwagoner troon
you are wrong, and delusional and go dilate
Lmao the absolute state of brown skin morons
>so mentally dominated xhe has to reply 1h+ later
le mayo
>I suppose... I wasn't really interested in saving you at all.
>I was trying to make up for the fact that I couldn't save Mia. Nothing more. That's why I let you walk right into a situation that I knew was dangerous.
Literally right afterwards maya says that she believes in him, and right afterwards is when he “cries”. They are both right. Godot literally did do something wrong, he made a mistake, but it wasn’t outwardly malicious or self-centered. He did want to save maya. He also wanted to BTFO dahlia. His conceit didn’t let him involve Phoenix.
> he made a mistake, but it wasn’t outwardly malicious or self-centered.
It absolutely was. Godot wanted to prove that Phoenix was useless and incapable. That’s why he orchestrated a plan that would put Maya in danger so he could “save” her and then rub it in Phoenix’s face that he couldn’t save her. The entire plan was a huge ego trip for him.
Trans
>headcanon.txt
Cheers, the game still says otherwise, wikiBlack person.
Stay mad, play the game for once, and have a nice day.
The game outright tells you Phoenix didn’t really matter, for Godot it was about his personal failings. It wasn’t that Godot needed to be the hero because le frick Phoenix le frick dahlia but moreso because he needed to justify his own existence. You can call that self centered but not malicious. He was trying to save maya to make up for how he failed to save Mia.
>"I liked your mom and pointed the crime on you, you're welcome"
Wasn't his plan to get revenge on the red b***h for ruining his life?
>willing to kill a 9 year old
>wasn’t outwardly malicious or self-centered
Anon…
He looks good, that absolves him of any crime to a woman.
godot did nothing wrong
The entire series is full of moronation after moronation and hinges on you not thinking too much and just accepting whatever the game says, I don't know how someone gets through the trilogy and the very final case is what they have an issue with.
Godot is an interesting character because he has an awesome design and theme that makes you forget just how incredibly moronic his actions are through the game. The breaking point for me was the color blindness issue with his visor being unable to see red and how he didn't consider that maybe that would be important while examining a crime scene.
I felt that pic related was a much better rival character. His coolness didn't come from his design but how he acted. He genuinely cared about his team and, despite having a personal bias against prosecutors, was still capable of putting that aside for the sake of the case. There was a mutual respect between him and Edgeworth and you could tell that both were benefiting from those rebuttals. He had a nice mix of toughness and brains.
Yeah, I always thought Godot's actions in the last case were pants on head moronic, I liked the Luke case and the first case more. Still you have to be some sort of coomer to go screaming NTR
Godot himself is the biggest problem with the game. 3-5 notably has two separate climaxes: first when you defeat Dahlia, and second when you defeat Godot. There should only have been one. Godot, although cool looking, is a character and pacing parasite.
nothing wrong with it, women are notoriously into criminals
What was her problem?
breasts too big to live
>phoenix meanwhile
Me on the left.
Has a cool theme = not guilty
Simple as
He was the best character in the series and it's criminal he wasn't in case 5 to help you pin down Jigoku
>is still the best prosecutor in your path
How does he do it
He didn't, he was the worst prosecutor until Nahyuta showed up
Categorically impossible, he was immediately preceded by Klavier
Franzisca is worse than either, and its not even close. She was intimidating for the first day of her first case, and a joke for everything else.
Franziska was a very interesting character and rival at least in games 2 and 3. Certainly better than Godot. She only became a joke character in the investigations games just like how every other major character was flanderized in those games.
Blackquill > Edgeworth > Franziska > Godot > Klavier > Nayuta
By being DeBeste character.
Wasted trips.
Blackquill is fricking awful, he's baby's first OC donut Gary Sue.
Nahyuta is blander and an Edgeworth ripoff, but atleast he's not a fricking Sue.
The Godot issues are a classic case of intent vs execution perhaps made worse by things possibly lost in translation.
I think it’s clear based on the dialogue that the game intended Godot to be a tragic figure; someone who unintentionally messed up because he couldn’t get over a petty grudge and things just spiralled out of control. This fails in execution because his plan is so moronic and full of holes. The game wants you to believe that him stabbing Misty was spur of the moment and emotional. But the fact that Godot knew about the instructions to Pearl and did nothing to stop them suggests it was premeditated.
everything he does would make so much more sense if his goal was getting revenge on everybody
Dahlia, for obvious reasons
Misty, for abandoning Mia
Phoenix, for his role in helping Dahlia and failing to help Mia
and trying to pin the whole crime on Iris to frick with Phoenix even harder
I thought that the secondary motivation of getting revenge on Dahlia and Phoenix was implied. At least that's the impression I got when I played it, since he formulated the plan in a way that would allow him to stab Dahlia('s ghost), and he refused to let Phoenix get involved. It would have been better if he explicitly resented Misty for abandoning Mia though. Callously sacrificing Mia's mom just to get revenge on her killer's ghost makes him come off as even more irrational otherwise, and not in a compelling way.
>getting revenge on Dahlia was implied.
nah, stabbing Dahlia was never the plan, it just happened in the spur of the moment
Lana is even cuter now that I know she has a snort when she laughs.
>he couldn’t get over a petty grudge
Being in a coma for years and having your beloved fiancee die young before you could wake up and marry her isn't just a petty grudge.
Blaming Phoenix for her death and doing all the things he did to him was a petty grudge.
It's not a petty grudge by itself but it's directed towards the wrong person entirely because the girl who tried to kill him is already dead and the guy who killed his fiancee was sent straight to prison by said fiancee herself. He's too emotional but for understandable reasons.
Why did she call him nick again?
Phoe*NIX*
I actually thought he was named Nick Wright and Phoenix was his nickname when I first played the game for a little bit
I don't mind getting whipped by her but in-game it just gets annoying when she does it 50 times at least in one trial
Jesus fricking Christ, Ganker, can you stop being a bitter contrarian for one fricking thread?
This is why Franziska is better
>been years since I've played ace attorney
>have forgotten most of the plot points
thank you alcoholism I can finally replay these games again
Women are literally irrational by nature, its biological fact
Godot isn't a woman...
Women in spirit
Godot being a moron is the most masculine thing about him. Stupid women tend to ask for help or advice when stuck in a shitty situation at least.
>acts like a moron
>still manages to be a better character than science Maya and ninja Maya
How does she do it?
She is not better than Ema. Her involvement in Rise From the Ashes alone was better than anything Maya did in that game.
>examine tire
>WE MUST EXAMINE THIS TIRE SCIENTIFICALLY, THROUGH THE POWER OF SCIENCE
>talk to witness
>YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S TIME FOR THE POWER OF SCIENCE!
>check item
>WE CAN USE MY FORENSICS TOOL TO ANALYZE THIS SCIENTIFICALLY
>character mentions anything plot important
>WE CAN DO IT, SCIENCE FRICK YEAH
I played that case twice and on my second try I began to count just how many times Ema brought up science. I think she said it like 13 times before the first chapter break. Maya isn't perfect but she was never repeating the same joke a million times like Ema and Kay.
>Maya isn't perfect but she was never repeating the same joke a million times
now lets go eat burgers, Nick!
Didn't she say that like twice in three games?
Twice every other sentence, yeah
>SCIENCE SCIENCE SCIENCE
Does this confirm that Emma is the Reddit assistant?
She's more like the forensics equivalent of a "cake is a lie XD" gamer girl. I get that the intention was to portray her as being very excited about her future but still clueless about how serious and gritty the job is, but it came off as Ema being an egotists who latched onto forenstics as a replacement for a personality.
I can understand if you find the constant mentions annoying, but her fixation on forensic science isn’t there for just comedy like Kay’s is. That case introduces brand new mechanics which expand investigations. Ema is easily the most useful assistant for that reason. And her involvement in the story and relationship with her sister is much more compelling than any of the spirit channeling BS with Maya, Mia, and Pearl.
>Maya Maya
>Little Maya
>Science Maya
>Ninja Maya
>Magic Maya
>Lawyer Maya
How can one character have so much mileage?
>detective Maya
*dies*
Haha, she died again!
Chemistry with Phoenix in a serious where dialogue and humor are a major part of the appeal. It's a big part of why the games are still so beloved years later.
Mr. Nick’s wife is so beautiful
This dumb little c**t has been sent to prison way more than the actual murderers throughout the entire series.
Here we go.
nobody asked
kys
>3-5 in S
>4-3 in F
Into the trash it goes
It took me longer than I cared to admit to understand what DR means. What a schizo tiermaker
Really overrates DGS btw, no way Speckled Band should be B tier
>AAI2-3 and AAI2-5 not in A tier
ngmi
You're hired to write a Mia prequel set between 3-1 and 1-1 and give her some much-needed characterization
What personality would you give her?
breasts
Brilliant lawyer but lazy, short tempered and hedonistic, developing an alcohol problem to deal with the loss of Diego, she turns up to court hungover half of the time
Also a sex addict
>anime cringe humor the series
Guys, I'm at work and my ip got banned from someone here, won't let me post my pic but I gotta say... I love Athena, she's cute
Yes! Thanks bro
I mean didn't he literally save her from being murdered?
Then again godot then straight up admits if he just told Wright of the situation before hand they could have saved misty and Maya without anyone getting hurt
>I mean didn't he literally save her from being murdered?
By murdering her mom in front of her eyes.
In a plan he orchestrated.
Whom she still defends against her best friend.
Who nearly died trying to save her.
Frick Maya.
Spoiler that shit homosexual. I’ve already played all these games but that doesn’t mean you should ruin the surprise for everyone else
>HURR DURR THE GAMES LIKE 15 YEARS OLD
Yes and? Have you already consumed all media from 15 years ago? Do you never watch movies from the 80s for the first time in the current year?
I bought first trilogy on steam and finished it. It's great that second will come out soon, I think.
I can't tell if I haven't played the games in ages and am getting stuff wrong in my head or If other people haven't played the games in ages and are getting stuff wrong.
People can see literally no middle ground between "he was the worst of piece of shit who ever lived, nobody should ever empathize with him" and "he did absolutely nothing wrong, he was a saint and a martyr"
Is Acro the George Floyd of Ace Attourney?
This moronic post explains a lot about this thread and why people can only think in such black and white terms
He did nothing wrong
>NOOOOOOO NAMES ARE MY WEAKNESS I'VE BEEN BAMBOOZLED
Acro is right to be mad at Regina, the Issue is he jumped straight to murder, simple as.
the thing that made him want to murk her is her being completely oblivious to what she did
he went along with the cover up, but her just going
>lolol Bat is a star xD
as he kept visiting his comatose brother made him wanna cave her skull in
nevermind him also being crippled because of her
Yeah that makes sense, he should've just either yelled at her or beat her first.
Just finished replaying 1-4.
How did nobody realize there was a bullet hole in the elevator in 15 years?
Well, under the assumption that the elevator was a locked room, that there was only one bullet fired from the gun in the incident, with the only bullet being lodged in Greg's heart, and the gun in question also being in the room, the only conclusion is that the bullet hole must've been from a different incident
The actual plot hole for 1-4 is that if Manfred was able to get in, how did they all get trapped there for so long
Manfred probably opened the elevator once the power came back on. He could've just been stuck on a floor waiting for the elevator to function again.
Right, but then why were they stuck there for hours?
The power came back on right after Manfred was shot, so then how did they all get stuck down there for hours?
Unless emergency services only came to the partially collapsed courthouse hours after it happened and right after Manfred shot them, I just dont understand how no one was able to rescue them until they were oxygen deprived to the point of memory loss and potential brain damage
>partially collapsed courthouse
the courthouse didn't collapse
the elevator just got stuck when the power went out during an earthquake
presumably nobody knew people got stuck in the elevator when the power went out
the power just happened to come back on right after Manfred got shot and the elevator door opened on its own
>the only conclusion is that the bullet hole must've been from a different incident
Surely people would remember the first time a bullet hole had appeared in that elevator.
Speaking of Manfred, I'm (re)playing this after having finished for the first time AJ and Kristoph really feels like a bad copy of Manfred.
>Surely people would remember the first time a bullet hole had appeared in that elevator.
Surely, but they never found a second bullet, and no one went to a doctor for gunshot wounds, so unless you are Phoenix Wright, one would have to presume the hole was unrelated to the case
The real question is, why the frick was Gregory okay with just sentencing Yanni Yogi to death like that? He thought his son killed him, so he just said "frick this security guard in particular"? He's supposed to be a good guy.
>why would a parent try to protect his child no matter what???????
imagine typing this out and not feeling like a subhuman
Shut the frick up, you edgy moron, he could've just said "I don't know what happened".
>parenthood
>edgy
man, you can see that fatherless hands typed these posts
lmao
>He thought his son killed him, so he just said "frick this security guard in particular"
They were all passed out when he died. He would never consider his son, and he had no idea the elevator door opened.
So he logic'd his way into thinking it was Yogi
That would make more sense, but the game definitely makes it sound like he intentionally lied to protect Edgeworth.
I'm sure it was half-logic, half him lying to himself, not only everyone else, that his own son would never murder him
Do all the guilty verdicts of murder result in death penalty in Ace Attorney anyway?
There's one confirmed execution (Dahlia) and one implied (Von Karma).
Morgan is also heavily implied to have been executed
>von Karma died because Edgeworth decided to confess to the murder of DL-6, otherwise the statute of limitations would have simply run out
lol
Not necessarily, some people like Frank Sahwit are shown to just get jail time. And Yogi obviously didn't get the death penalty.
Its very rare (as in we hardly even hear about them) but people DO get executed in AA
Does Mia ever show up in the games after Trials and Tribulations?
No. She has nothing left to teach Phoenix so she’s allowed to move on
She's gone anon
*slap*
BUILT
for Pearl's uniform
Women really do be like that doe
God I wanna frick Maya.
Might start AA5 tonight lads.
I just want Ema at least once to bring up her sister again
I get as to why Lana will never be brought back, but I at least want to hear about her again, because I loved Lana's character
Then again, same goes with Gumshoe, so they're both never-ever-tier
They do this thing where they don't make references to older games unless they're part of the plot, in which case there is a flashback, so even new players will understand it.
Never ever
My wife
It would be funny if she came back just to get murdered.
She is a Mia expy, after all.
Do they ever explain the scar on the back of Kristoph's hand?
sorry bro, we had to cut out his backstory to get the game released on time.
they intentionally left that case full of loose ends
for example, what "grip" did Kristoph have on the artist girl?
>for example, what "grip" did Kristoph have on the artist girl?
What? There's no mystery there, she was just infatuated with him because he was friendly.
her father pleaded with Kristoph to release his grip on her
That's just stupidly bad phrasing.
Likely due to weird translation.
He's asking Kristoph to leave her alone, after he figured out how to gain her trust.
considering Kristoph expected her to bite her nails and die from the poisoned nail polish, just how much contact did they have over the years?
I dunno, but it sounds to me like Kristoff might need to take a seat over there
>forges evidence to ruin a man's career
>attempts to murder a man and his 12 y.o. daughter, succeeding with the former (both if you get the bad end)
>murders a man 7 years later after stalking for all these years
>because...because his client, after playing a game of poker with him, decided to get another attorney
What the frick was his problem?
To be fair Vera is pretty cute
Shame she never shows up again
>tfw no autistic sheltered painter wife
I thought he reinforced her ideas about the outside world being a dangerous place, with the nail polish bottle being an item she should never separate from.
I think.
>What?
The mail in the yellow envelope ends with her father pleading him to "release her from the spell he's put on her".
Oh wait, yeah there was that bullshit where he said the nail polish was a magic charm that made the outside world safe.
The dad is still just asking Kristoph to leave Vera alone.