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hard to refute when I don't know the context
Because she's right. Adachi hates the world and doesn't do anything about it while also not changing himself or killing himself. His mindset makes no sense unless you actively want to be miserable.
He's literally me
>young adult made on his mind that success/money/reknown is what will bring him happiness.
Can it be fixed?
Yukiko is just outing herself as an ignorant shitter.
100% correct. Hardworkgays always forget that Talentgays work hard too but get better results because that shit is exponential.
I would understand if he's like the guy from Falling Down, but Adachi's life circumstances aren't that bad
He's too comically evil to be taken seriously
Considering Adachi isn't even untalented, I dont really get his complaint. It would of made more sense if he was just a bum.
This, dude acts like he's lived a horrible life when in reality its just 'normal' and he's, what, kinda mad that he had to go work in the boonies for a while because he fricked up on a job?
It's actually more fitting that he's a normal but miserable guy. Some people naturally desire an escape from the crushing mediocrity of normalcy and the boring tedium of a common adult life. If Adachi were more extreme in his life circumstances he wouldn't be so bored or so unfulfilled. Him being not a complete bum but not a completely exciting person makes that frustration and despair he feels more believable. Some people hate a normal life more than a hard but interesting one.
the villain just being some bum who is mad that he lacks any sort of talent wouldnt lead to an interested twist. Everyone expects the homeless to be shitty human beings unworthy of love.
I don't think he meant a bum like a homeless guy anon
also everyone does not think like that
Absolutely correct and can't be refuted
Nepotism > Talent. Should've done some social link grinding, cabbage boy.
Pretty much. I'm great at my job, but I couldn't get in it before a friend recommended me from within the company.
Talent by itself is worthless if you don't have any connections
That's Cronyism.
I hope you were born into a good family or good lucking you dumbo.
>"They just happen to born with the magic ticket called "talent.""
>Gets handed a literal magic ticket called "Persona" from a gas station attendant and still ends up a loser
seems like a self goal
I still don't get how people miss the point of Adachi. Like are the just being purposefully disingenuous? Adachi is supposed to be a foil to the MC, and that line right there proves his own hypocrisy. He was given an unimaginable power and he only uses it to harm others and cause chaos, while the MC uses that power to rescue and help others. His words ring hollow because of how he has acted when given that special power.
more to the point, his pontificating about society and getting screwed is him obfuscating the fact that he killed 2 people. that's why that line from yukiko is there and yosuke calls him a murderer straight out. he's bullshitting to justify his bullshit to himself.
>murder is LE BAD UHM OKAY IT JUST IS
>continues to eat meat
Yes, Murder without reason is bad. There is a very big difference between killing for fun and killing to sustain. Stop with the childish false equivalencies.
I mean they are in a position to lecture, because his arguments are weak enough that they fall flat to teenagers. He shows that it is literally an attitude issue and not a skill issue just by the comparison of the MC and him.
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he's an ai gay
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He's not correct. Not to say that those who work hard get rewarded, but to say that those who are rewarded don't even have talent, they are mostly just born to the right parents or know the right people.
All that matters in life is genetics.
Yes, but the genetic traits which are considered beneficial are totally arbitrary and dependent one where you are born. For example, in the west we like low IQ Black folk and genetic dead-end homosexuals despite them being considered bad in most of the world both now and historically.
fatalist/defeatist shitter mentality
you are just lazy
Life is predetermined according to science, cope more.
Luck>Talent
Those who work hard are oftentimes also talented because they hone that talent.
What even is talent? Skill in something? A guy can be really good at drawing naturally but he still has to hone that talent to get anywhere with it. If Adachi were presented with a "talentless" person who worked hard to get where they are, he'd just call them lucky or even claim that they are talented. He's a miserable self pitying homosexual. He's also supposed to represent the common Jap trope of obsession with meritocracy, wherein talent (usually academic classroom/learning by rote) is the sole defining factor of a person's worth and nothing can exist outside of it, or people need to be talented at something to be considered worthy of life. To the slanty eyed, bugman, nobody is allowed to just be average or not particularly talented. It's not something you take very seriously because it's a crushingly nihilistic and oppressive chink social dogma that is meant to handwave Adachi's motivations and make him le bad. It's the equivalent of a big bad guy who hates friendship or something.
Cope, a midget will never make it to the NBA.
>posts hyperbole
Sure, but an average guy can get very good at basketball if he tries hard enough, more than some lanky guy who has never thrown a single ball in his life. Talent as in naturally being good at something is common enough but it needs to be nurtured to get anywhere and that depends on effort, circumstances, environment etc. Not all of which can be controlled, but the effort one puts into something certainly can. Autists see this and think "well because there's some nuance in what one is capable of, obviously you have to be born a 8ft gigachad or it's over! in fact it never even began!" which is bullshit
Adachi isn't even a complete bum either so it makes little sense, it feels like hamfisting some justification and is a pure shounen cliche
Makes complete sense, he worked hard for everything in his life only to come up second against those born with it. Like you will never be a billionaire no matter how hard you try meanwhile others are just born into it without lifting a finger.
Maybe I'm moronic but I feel like it's kind of a tautology thing too
Like if someone really does work hard and becomes a billionaire for example, people will just say "oh he was predestined/he had talent/he was lucky/it was just circumstance" and not hard work. People claim that it's impossible and if they're shown an example there's always some excuse as to why it doesn't count. It's just eternal sour grapes.
t. Adachi
> only to come up second against those born with it
he probably would've been fine if he hadn't fricked up in his city cop job and got sent out to the boonies. Even then, thats not some kind of death sentence. Dude was massively overreacting to the fact that he didn't become like, prime minister of japan just because he did well academically at school.
Luck > Talent + Hard Work > Talent > Hard Work
Luck is the most important factor. You could've been born rich, healthy, mentally stable, and handsome then maintain that for the rest of your life. No amount of combination of talent or hard work will be able to get you the combination I just stated. Prove me wrong otherwise.
>he accidently hit randomize on the character creator
Seriously? I thought that shit ended by 1865.
but you don't need that combination to succeed or even meet the bare minimum of competence which is enough to create happiness
Obviously success varies based on what people define as success in their life, but the point I was making is that you could've had it in the very second of conception vs people needing to spend time, maybe their whole lives to achieve even a part of that combination. The poor can become rich, the unhealthy can exercise, eat better, go to the doctors (unless you have a terminal or chronic disease then luck wins again). The mentally ill can be rehabilitated with therapy and introspection (unless you have severe mental illness which again is luck again). The ugly can take care of their looks, exercise, or even go through surgery. At the end of all this is the time lost that you spend on all this shit that you could've used to do things you actually enjoy.
Naw, the bare minimum competence gives you a life that is adequate and meet your needs, and there's absolutely personality types that will be perfectly happy with that. However there are also personality types that will never be happy with it. I'm one of those, objectively my life is fine, it may get a little dicey in 1-2 years depending on some factors, but I also know I can get by relatively fine when it happens. But am I happy with my life on the bare minimum of competence or have any reasonable way out that isn't sudokku? Frick no.
"Talent" isn't the word I would have used if I were him. More like where you are born, when it happens, and who you are born to determines everything afterwards.
I would have said value. You can be untalented and still succeed because you are just rich.
You can be talented in something, number 1 of all time, but if it's absolutely fricking worthless you will live a miserable life because it's of no value.
The only thing that matters is the value you have.
Let me just say that the game reinforces this with New Game+, in which you start the game over with the benefit of carrying over lots of things like social qualities and stats that allow you to progress through the game without having to spend time working on getting those things and allowing you to do more of enjoying what the game has to offer. Those benefits you get to carry over are "talent".
I how can anyone refute her admission of being unable to understand?
Bitchessssss
I hope this is just a mistranslation. It’s really stupid.
Are you an NPC? Why do you want to talk about the same topic again and again?
>Just have a nice day
Isn't her default response literally just proving his point even more
refuted
There's absolutely no reason to be that cruel to Yukiko. She's amazing and deserves nothing but love and admiration. In fact, for them to put in any other option than to say you're desperately in love with her, automatically drops the game's quality.
"She" is a bunch of pixels.
no one cares what you think, delusional
moron.
You just know she cried herself to sleep after this
Why turning down girls in this series seems so painful? You should be doing it more subtlely but I think players wouldnt get it.
>but I think players wouldnt get it.
You answered your own question there.
planewalking pedophile gets what she deserves.
autist, this is the proper way to turn someone's confession down. You do NOT want to lead people on or make them think something they shouldnt.
>autist, this is the proper way to turn someone's confession down
I think what he's saying is that you should be able to manage the relationship so that it never reaches the confession stage, most romantic approaches are aborted because people will usually throw hooks to test the waters before trying to confess so that even if the two persons know exactly what's happening they keep plausible deniability.
You are encouraged to be chad who dates all the girls in contrast with Adachi's incel rage
Because being turned down is a human experience and you still see them as your friends so you don't like them getting hurt.
I've turned down female friends before and it sucked but I gave them the space they needed and things were ok until the friendship faded because no friendship with romantic intentions that failed truly lasts.
Turning down Rise was actually painful and I hate her with every fiber of my being.
Turning down girls IRL is even worse. Especially if they're super into you and cute.
>turning down girls who are super into you and cute
for what purpose unless it's one of those annoying times when you have a gf then every girl suddenly wants your dick for some reason
Mental instability and deepseated feelings of worthlessness and insignificance in the everything, facilitated by a multitude of factors, can mess you up bad.
Was dating a grillfriend for 5 years and a QT classmate in college asked me out.
>when you have a gf then every girl suddenly wants your dick for some reason
Or, the other way around
Your female friends are all married with your male friends and you're still single, but somehow they're all sexually frustrated and keep on seducing you whenever they can
BAHAHAHAHA!
>just have a nice day bro
it's called wanting life to get better
>Life is too painful for you, but that's no excuse to make it painful for others
Fixed it.
The day P4 gets a remake, it's over. Persona will reach its true peak, nothing will beat it.
She's a moron making false equivalencies, hating your life and wanting to die are two different things.
It doesn't make sense because she doesn't understand why someone would want to be miserable, if he hates his life so much and doesn't want to die.
Adachi is nowhere near cynical enough.
Talent and hard work are both far inferior to luck and connections (a form of luck).
The guy who played Han Solo in the recent movie has no talent, and who can tell if he worked hard, but he met Steven Spielberg at a friend's bat mitzvah reception, so he got the part.
You don't think there are more talented or harder working actors who could have been cast?
Those teenagers were in no position to lecture him or tell him he was wrong about the gap in opportunities between them.
Adachi was just pointing out objective facts about reality and that drives some people up the wall crazy.
People always attribute their success to hardwork when in reality it was their genetics, environment and wealth that led to their current circumstances. Its why rich people always need an underdog story or act poor
Society would be better off if it stopped lying to Adachi.
>Of course it doesn't make sense. It's feelings.
>Where the frick do you get off telling me whether it "makes sense" for me to be upset?
>You're only complaining because the grown-up is the one with the upper hand, just like everything else that ever ruffled your pretty little feathers.
>male sexlessness is approaching 70% according to self reported french statistics
Expect more adachi's
He doesn't want to die. He just wants to be free from feeling miserable all the time.
Go nuts, Ganker.
Adachi from yakuza is a better adachi
I’ve never had a girlfriend I’ve been on bumble and tinder and hinge 0 matches. I’m on adachis side.
dating apps are a losing game for men unless you are a turbo chad who's or lie and embellish a lot
Sorry bro you're not 6ft plus with model looks, better luck next life! You can thank our forefathers for giving woymen the vote
Bro wasn’t born with talent lmfao
If you're not a Chad or a normalgay, don't even bother.
Sorry you're ugly. Not your fault anon. Just bad rng.
>bro you don't like living? then why don't you just have a nice day bro? it like doesn't even make sense
Coming from some b***h whose career path is laid out for her inheriting a fricking famous established inn, this b***h deserved to get shoved inside a tv and get killed by shadows
she worked so hard to inherit that inn bro!!
I love Yukiko but this was a low moment for her
They should have given Yukiko Chies line about how even she could have become Adachi if things turned out different and given Chie Yukiko's
>k-have a nice day!
Yukiko is still substantially better than the other girls but she would have been perfect then...
Yukiko could have never become an Adachi she was born into a highly respected position surrounded by people that give a shit about her for who she is.
Yeah but she doesn't really care for it all that much. It's the same with Adachi, look at all the morons on here always saying "HE HAS A COMFY STABLE JOB and Dojima kinda cares for him and the old lady is nice to him how could he have want for anything?"
An inn in Inaba is still in fricking Inaba and considering how busy her parents are all the time to the point that even Yukiko has to work, it really doesn't seem worth it.
Yukiko Yoskue and Adachi are all really in the same boat in that they consider life in Inaba to basically be a prison to them, it's just that Yoskue and Yukiko just end up going, "well it's not so bad I've got my prison buddies here, who cares about the outside" while Adachi doesn't make friends, goes crazy and starts shanking people.
I think Yukiko should have gotten the line.
>the world is suffering
>men are powerless to effect the level of change needed to reduce suffering
>men are powerless to change themselves to reduce the effects of suffering
>options: kill self now or wait for natural death
Might as well enjoy what few pleasures life has until you die. Vidya, coom, good food, substances, and jesus.