Now that Blizzard has rolled out the worst patch in their companies history and are calling an emergency all hands on deck meeting with the community do you expect them to roll back some of the changes?
>TLDR: in a patch where many were expecting a small amount of nerfs to a handful of the most op builds, a large amount of buffs to under used skills for all classes, fixes to bugs and QoL improvements, fixing resistance which is currently a broken stat, etc, instead blizzard blanket nerfed all damage and defense for every single class, and even nerfed stats on already existing gear that players have already spent a month farming, among other things
What does this mean for the future of Diablo 4?
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I don't want to hear you talk more about it. I want you to fricking fix it.
Let's unwrap this and find out why you, the consumer, is wrong.
This customer is always right bullshit is a tired argument when the customer in question (average gamer) acts like he's barging through doors screaming Black person and demanding little girls to rape.
grow up
>barging through doors screaming Black person and demanding little girls to rape.
Cool it with the antisemitism.
Are you a schizo?
What the frick does this have to do with the bad patch you sperg?
if my schizo translator is correct he's trying to say that gamers bad company good
That's right moron I literally said average gamer in my post but everyone is too stupid to understand that they're the issue and think they can make ludicrous demands while stomping their feet like children and wonder where the entitled manchild stereotype comes from
>ludicrous demands
People are not making ludicrous demands. People are asking for features that were literally in Diablo 3, 11 years ago.
What. Does. This. Have. To. Do. With. The. Patch?
Are you a woman?
Yeah "I want to have fun in the video game" is a ludicrous gamers can go get FRICKED if they want to enjoy their time with your entertainment product.
>GAMES ARE TOO EASY NOW! FRICKING CASUALS BROWN PEOPLE AND SJWS GET OUT!
>white men make your game more challenging
>GAMES NOT A JOB MAN! FRICKING STUPID WHITE GUY DEVELOPERS! FIX IT!
No actually you're all beyond redemption and deserve even worse treatment, diplomacy has decided it enjoys being whipped tender and it's a misfortune some of you think this came out of nowhere
shut up moron
???
you don't have to samegay
Oh god shut the frick up moron
I present to you now, live from Ganker: The Pseud!
>and think they can make ludicrous demands while stomping their feet like children and wonder where the entitled manchild stereotype comes from
You CLEARLY have absolutely no clue about this situation at hand. Why are you even in this thread spouting your schizo shit?
Holy frick, you're a genuine moron. It's amazing how you probably think you're some incredibly smart individual, but it's clear as day to everyone else that you're an absolute dumbfrick of the highest degree.
>and find out why you, the consumer, is wrong
This but unironically.
Anyone who seethed over the patch notes without playing it should be hanged and shot.
frick the consumer.
who the frick cares, don't eat shit if you can't stand the flavour
>Playing nu blizzard
>paying nu blizzard
If you play blizzslop you deserve everything that happens to you and worse. It's like you shoved your dick into a blender and now you're angry that you look post-op
There are people in this board right now that paid $100 for this
Just wait for the first expansion. The game will be fixed then. It's already an objective 8.9/10
game will not be fixed then
by the time it is fixed however if that ever happens it will be on the game pass and cost $0 since I can just cancel it 1 day before the month is over and get a full refund
screenshot this for free (you)s when the patch drops
Stacking them shelves would pay more than this kid.
>wait until you drop another 50 bucks into it!
>you will reach sunk cost fallacy beyond your wildest dreams
Cant wait anon. Maybe after you're down $200 on the second add-on, and put in 300 hours of grinding, the game will really shine.
And you will show them! You will show them all!
The overpriced product you bought isnt bad at all!
Seek help
Honestly baffled these people continue to make money. A friend of mine was b***hing about this earlier today. Honestly you have nothing to complain about, you bought a game made by fricking Blizzard moron. Next time do not support them, at all, period. Fricking dumbasses will bring a snake in their home and wonder why it bites them
Did not play the beta, I did not watch gameplay of the beta, I don't even know what classes are in the game. If you know more about this game then me then I consider you a massive homosexual. And I'm someone who still has the original d2 disks from time to time.
I'm one of them. Haven't touched the game in weeks. Was debating on if I should even make a new character for season 1 (have only played a single character so far). I really wanted to try out necro but I have almost zero interest. I suppose the game could get better over time, and it's not going anywhere I assume.
>Haven't touched the game in weeks.
Nobody cares you moron, they already got your money
Blizzard wants D4 to be the next PoE though, and non-seasonal players are a problem.
Just to think! This game won’t be good until two expacs and 20 seasons are released. You’ll buy each one piecemeal, 70 dollars each like a good coonsumer.
I will wait for the final end game product to go on sale in a year and a half and get it for 20 bucks, thanks.
I don't understand being pissed about this. Community wanted changes, Blizzard made changes. Now there will be feedback between the two parties to further those changes.
Ah yes the Hegelian dialectic. I'm already used to the government doing this so it's only natural an industry leader and innovator like Blizzard wouldn't introduce it to the gaming industry. And here I thought video games could not possibly get more israeli.
Nobody watches TV/Film anymore, so the israelites had to pollute the next big media
Turns out it can get much, much more israeli
Hegel wasn’t israeli moron
Bro you never read Hegel.
Youre right that politicians think about hegel like this but its not actually what the hegelian dialectic is, its just that all politicians are too moronic to understand hegel.
The community asked for like 30-40 different changes that would actually improve the game. Blizzard gave us like 1 or 2 of them, and then did a bunch of other shit that absolutely no one asked for.
>no one asked for
Who cares, fans typically have terrible ideas, and a game should be a creative vision, not design by committee
>Just eat shit lol
>and they did
anyone buying and playing blizzard games is a complete fricking moron
Except in this case, there's so many things that every single D4 player agrees on that needs to be changed, namely things like more stash space, a gem tab, a sigil tab, more mob density, the ability to turn off VULNERABLE spam, search function for stash, search function for aspects, the ability to store builds, etc. etc.
But they have done absolutely nothing to talk about most of these things. The only one I can remember they have even acknowledged was a gem tab and they basically just said "it's coming in a future season at some point".
>a gem tab
why? The only fix gems need is increasing the sell price by 1000. There is literally no reason to gather thousands of gems. But if gems could sell for 8k, 16k, or whatever a royal gem is worth x 1000, then at least they would be worth picking up. Once you have a couple hand fulls, i just straight ignore them.
1) There's gonna be more gems coming in the future. People already datamined WT5 and new gems.
2) S1 is gonna have 32 malignant hearts which are basically like the D3 legendary gems. It would be nice if we could store them in a tab instead of them taking up more slots in our already limited stash/inventory.
>1
cool, they still only take up 14 slots total. 7 for whatever drops, 7 for top level.
>2
5-8 of which are going to be good? maybe?
>limited stash
what the frick are you nerds storing? We don't have sets any more, so its not like we need 50 spaces for each characters gear. Aspects are the only thing I've even come close to using a full chest for, and i only used 3 rows of it.
normies never get to end game content. The majority of people leaving the game aren't even above lvl 60, no where near end game, and common amongst their complaints is its too easy/boring.
>The majority of people leaving the game aren't even above lvl 60, no where near end game, and common amongst their complaints is its too easy/boring.
surely you're not pulling this shit out of your ass and passing as if it's fact
you probably just forgot to post some proof but we'll wait for it
>normies never get to end game content
Normalgays also don't voice their opinions on subleddits and youtube either though.
the internets changed grandpa. Kids use tiktoks and insta-whatever the fricks. You can keep staying in your social media bubble all you want.
>what the frick are you nerds storing?
If you just have like 2-3 characters and you attempt to save gear for 2-3 builds for each then you will quickly run out of stash space. The only workaround for this currently is to create mule characters because the stash is so fricking small.
the only things they addressed this patch were crafting items not being capped anymore, and items having a capped level req at 60 and 80 for sacreds and ancestrals. while those are indeed good qol changes, they are completely overshadowed by the rest of the bullshit in the patch
>More stash space
>More mob density
>Search functions
>Store builds
This is not going to happen. Blizz gays are cheap fricks, and all of these features have to be done in the server side. Meaning that it'll cost them more money to run the servers. From the developers that popularized cheap input based sync servers, there's no fricking way they'll implement these features. This is what you get for consuming muh online games.
>more mob density
Not gonna happen until PS4/XO are not supported anymore, their CPU's are dog shit.
Most of these qol changes they can't easily do because of their spaghetti code.
They have said that the problem is that they are already 2 seasons ahead. Before the game even released, season 1+2 were both like 90% complete, so because of that combined with the fact that they need QA testing, console certifications and approvals, etc. it means that if they want to change something bigger-ish, then they have to wait 2 seasons for it to happen.
That's why they said that we'll get things like leaderboards for S3 at the earliest. It's a completely fricked up way of developing and defeats the entire purpose of the live service shit they are attempting.
That's one of the most asinine excuses they came up with. The blizz team has proven they can make complicated changes on the fly and yet they need 6 months to add a base feature that's been in all of of their modern games.
>proven
really ?
have they ?
from my perspective other than delivering a bugged out (but potentially good) core game they entirely are fricking up shit all the time and look like tryhard imposters larping as oldschool game devs
have you seen their "campfire" streams ? holy fricking cringe, these people are so liberally detached from the essentials it borderlines a disturbingly attractive reality tv comedy show that you dont want to watch but you cant resist the morbid attraction it has on you through its freak of nature curiosities
I'm talking about their ability as a company, not just d4's lifespan.
preposterous that they call this time-effort holocaust back to lvl 1 and some lame (level your gems script) a "season"
"as if my lifetime was worthless spending almost 100% of a month and a half from my after work time to level my character in a game that was actually fun even if you played the weakest class"
frick these entitled bastards
>a game should be a creative vision, not design by committee
thats literally how these fricking companies end up designing trash like this though. The lack of vision is why the the players have to tell them how to fix the total mess of a game.
Nothing wrong with a company NOT wanting to take player feedback, but Blizz keeps acting like they want to hear from their players and inviting them to leave lots of detailed feedback that they then ignore. It's not the players wasting the devs' time with dumb suggestions, it's the devs wasting the players' time by asking them for suggestions they're never going to take.
What is creative about a skinner box where the only progression is grinding the battlepass to look cooler while grinding the battlepass?
>"diablo" 4
>creative
>"looooool whp cares we don't need them "fans" anyway
Chill out Blizzard employee
First blizzard game? Get used it, b***h. Also get ready to start paying more for less, they'll slowly ramp this up and you'll either notice it and quit or spend a fortune and regret it.
Because a majority of the changes were so beyond pants on head moronic there is no way diablogays can reasonable expect good content going forward. I didn't buy the game I'm just here because I haven't been able to maintain an erection since tortanic.
What all did they change?
they wanted changes that helped the game, not make it worse.
They essentially just deleted a class with this update.
What class?
Sorc and Barb have been aborted.
It really is one of the worst patches they ever made.
Like you could say something like WOD's 6.1 was bare bones but this patch is actually a frick up.
the worst part is what happens next
being someone who played wow for a while and know how these Black folk operate I can tell you that they are going to backtrack on very minor things
the community will praise them for that even though they deserve literally no praise and act like the moronic original patch never happened
and then in weeks they will backtrack on their backtrack and nobody is going to notice
If you play Blizzard games still I think you need to die for the good of humanity
>We are going to livestream our opinions about why we hate our player base
That is sure one way to go about making changes to a game i guess.
>we will have a campfire chat telling you how you are wrong to think what you want and we're doing anyway because we learned nothing the past 2 decades
I'd encourage devs to stick their vision but a money siphoning app pretending to be a game can hardly be called visionary
>Now that Blizzard has rolled out the worst patch in their companies history
WoW 2.2 came out like 17 years ago
I can't wait for the day blizzard goes under.
How do they keep being so bad at their jobs?
>nerf all classes and gear
Fricking turbo morons, JUST BUFF MONSTER HP AND DAMAGE, you can make it a stealth buff if you like to try to pull a fast one, or own up but be vague and just say there was some rebalancing behind the scenes.
This is game design 101, what the FRICK is going on at Blizz?
Its just the base expectation you should have from Blizzard
Besides like OW launch (which they promptly ruined and drove into the ground) they haven't made anything of note for a long ass time
>How do they keep being so bad at their jobs?
Diversity Hires
There is no other explanation at this point.
The only other option is they have some centralized balance team that doesn't play ANY of there games and they just throw dildos at twister mat
That's just the same thing.
Have you watched their developer updates recently? It's troons, homosexuals, and feminists. What else do you expect?
this
seriously
its like they got this half finished game handed over by actual devs to finish it and now some lunatics are allowed to run the shop
the game is the direct allegory of a stereotypical troon
inside there is a good and solid core but on the outside its fake and rotting
>Buying Blizzard games in 2023
>Still complaining about Blizzard being moronic about balance in 2023
You fricking deserve everything that happens to you for giving Blizzard money.
This might be enough controversy to turn another Overwatch character gay.
WHICH OW CHARACTER TURNS GAY NEXT???
The world is dying to know
Lets begin from listing all overwatch straight characters. Are there any left? There is genji/mercy ship, ana and tobjorn cant be gay because they have kids(but probably cant be turned gay), who else?
>game receives non-stop feedback the game is too easy
>people leaving in droves cause game offers no challenge
>Devs nerf game to increase challenge across the board
>Forums burst into flames, people committing sudoku in the streets, every mail truck within 30 miles of the studio explodes from bombs being sent
You people disgust me.
Nobody was complaining it was too easy. They were complaining that 90% of the skills suck ass and need buffing to be at least somewhat comparable to the one or two meta builds for each class. And that the loot sucks. And that some stats were completely broken. Etc.
Didn't say he was moron.
>Didn't say he was moron.
its clear what you were trying to do, now youre just backpaddling
israeli as an adjective is a synonym for money grubbing moron
i wish you redditors would just stay there
youre just a fricking clown doing mental gymnastics
>youre just a fricking clown doing mental gymnastics
>game receives non-stop feedback the game is too easy
never happened
>people leaving in droves cause game offers no challenge
they are leaving in droves because it's diablo and every diablo game is only fun for about 40hrs per year, anymore of that you have to be completely autistic since the game is all about wasting several hours to get 0.5% better
>game receives non-stop feedback the game is too easy
Literally from where? Some stupid streamer like the bald WOW man? Sorcerors get one-shot and Rogues get two-shot by end content.
The problem is there are 2 camps which make up a lot of the playerbase. D3 players want everything to be braindead. They want loot to pick itself up, they don't want to do dungeon objectives, and they just want to fly screen to screen making hundreds of mobs blow up.
>Solution to "game is not engaging" is to make player options worse instead of making enemies more challenging.
lol?
Nobody said the game was too easy....there is just no end game.
>game receives non-stop feedback the game is too easy
Your brain on baldium
nobody was complaining it was too easy. It was tedious. Abilities were bland, low monster density, no power fantasy, lack of speed, lack of fun interesting builds. They just made it even more shit
>speed speed speed fast fast fast
Zoomers are genuinely a problem.
Im not a zoomer. Play D2 you dumb pseud
The main glaring issue with the game is that most builds don't feel completely functional until 50-70, and then by that time, there's nothing fricking left to do in the game. Once you are 60-70, that's the game, that's it. That's everything that's available to do.
Congratulations, your build now feels functional, what's there to do with it? Farm for the same gear you already have with a 1% increase modifier. Or you can smash your head against the pavement for a week or two to hit 100 to fight lilith which rewards functionally nothing.
What they did is make reaching that point harder, continuing past that point MUCH harder, and provide NO reason to do so.
lol this is so true
>people begging for harder content
>people saying the game is too easy
Ah yes, harder content like increasi g the dungeon teleport from 3 to 5 seconds LOL. Diablo shills in shambles. Thank god I didn't buy this piece of shit
>REEEEE WHY CAN'T I SAFELY TELEPORT AWAY FROM DANGER THIS IS TOO HAAARRRDDDD
>AWAY FROM DANGER
What danger?
The dungeon mobs that are about to end your NM run or hardcore character.
>end your NM run
You mean if you die 12 times? Who even comes close to that ever
>hardcore
The gayest shit ever
Only baby NM dungeons allow that many deaths, higher tiers allow much less. I've seen 4 as the max so far in the 50s.
2/10
>I've seen 4 as the max so far in the 50s
Why the frick would you do NM dungeons above the tier when monsters reach max level?
Monsters don't reach max level until NM dungeon 100 and you get more glyh XP the higher the NM dungeon. Have you even played the game?
>more glyh XP the higher the NM dungeon
Only thing that matters is lvl 100 monsters NM 46 and glyph exp per hour. Doing slow NM dungeons is some moron shit
>The dungeon mobs that are about to end your NM run
KEK you don't even play D4 what a surprise
>game receives non-stop feedback the game is too easy
???
And people will keep giving blizzard money anyway
How is this worse than 9 months of nothing followed by a patch removing content in shadowlands?
that was based
the patch that finally made me quit wow forever and delete my bnet account so I had no way to come back
>Oh no, the dogshit game run by the dogshit company is turning to... le dogshit?? How could I have foreseen this...
>You will not overcome our challenges
>You will not have any progress
>You will not have any fun
>And you will be happy
more like
>You will NOT be happy
>And you WILL buy the Game Pass
yfw don't care about the trash called Diablo 4
>don't care about D4
yet, here you are
Not that anon but some people just like to laugh at you morons for buying this pile. You idiots go out of your way to troll D2 fans so you deserve it.
I love D2. Wtf are you talking about?
Don't pretend like you haven't seen this line of thinking from D4 fans:
>I know Diablo 4 has problems, but did you also know that Diablo 2 is a pile of shit? Enjoy 10,000 more baal runs, losers!
It's the most common defense of D4 on the Internet from Ganker to youtube to Reddit.
I thought it was about WOW and came to gloat at them, but this is just as good
I wonder why they decided to nerf everything.
They hate us (gamers). They don't want us to enjoy their game.
>live service game doa before live service even begins
ill play it once when it finally arrived on game pass 6 months from now, lol, fricking morons paying 70 to 100 dollars for this trash , im glad im cheap now and min max my revenue
They didn't roll back D2 1.10, they won't ever admit they did anything wrong
D2 1.10 was liked by most people back in the day. The only b***hing I remember was when they fixed the marrowalk bug and tried to nerf hammerdin a bit later but then walked back on it after receiving death threats. Sounds like revisionism like people trying to claim classic D2 before LoD was bad and hated.
That was just blizzdrones and people who wanted change for the sake of change. It nerfed a shitload of things though, didnt bowazons get the biggest nerfs
Anyone who is still sucking on the teat of a Blizzard game deserves what they get. I don't know what else to say.
They will gashlight you into thinking the changes are good and you're an idiot for not liking them
It's over
While I understand Blizzard fricked up the worst patch in the companies history is a very high bar to cross over and from that description I don't see it.
i'm only playing d4 casually and even i'm assblasted by this patch, seriously what the frick
they were supposed to fix the memory leak on PC but didn't
sorcerer is weak as shit and got nerfed further somehow
the changes actually SLOW DOWN pacing of the game and make doing anything outside of nightmare dungeons even less viable
what is wrong with them
every single non shitter that worked in that company has been fired or quit over the last decade
they are blizzard in name only
I hope Rod Fergusson gets fricking fired. He's a moronic alcoholic. I guarantee you he was drunk at the last campfire chat, where he made a colonoscopy joke and kept chiming in when he was off screen.
>nerf not some but EVERY class
What is the fricking point?
>post yfw when you're poor
weird flex
+15 esg credits
Shouldn't Blizzard be more worried about what Microwiener will do to them in the coming future?
If they were worried about it then wouldn't have been so adamant about M$ buying them in the first place.
CMA is not going to let microcucks close the deal so why worry about something that will never happen
cope snoygroid, UK will bend the knee this isn't the 20th century
Why would they worry they got that sweet sweet gamepass money and playerbase coming in
Im having a hard time deciding if the backlash from this patch is just a cookies and milk tantrum or if blizzard really did just axe the game to death. I dont have the energy or attention span to compute these changes in a vacuum and Blizzard has become so soulless since 2004 that i cant give them the benefit of the doubt. Im also a bit drunk. Can someone who is appropriately objective please tell me what to think?
As always its mostly overblown. I just enjoy laughing and mocking Blizzard.
PoE2 is still a year away and Lost Ark is in crisis mode, Diablo 4 doesn't really have any competition on the immediate horizon. they've got more than enough time to frick up a few patches before finding their groove. video game enjoyers are a needy bunch, we'll be more than happy to get our fix from D4 again if Blizzard repair what they've broken.
PoE2 will likely be in beta before the end of the year and my guess is it will be a better game
you're right that blizzard has around a year to fix their game but they don't seem to have a clue on what that would entail
blizzard already was a shell of what it once was, now it's a copy of a shell of what it once was
a PoE2 beta before the end of the year would be frickin' phenomenal. unfortunately it's starting to feel more and more like what you said is the case though, that Blizzard is a copy of a shell of what it once was. hopefully both games will be good at the same time eventually. lol
I would like D4 to be great but I don't have much faith in Blizzard when I consider their track record the last 5 or so years
they have a tendency to run games into the ground and chase players off
it's a shame because they have interesting intellectual properties, but everything just ends up being mediocre or worse
How Blizzard works
>Release a good game because the objective is to release a good game
>Frick it up when the priority becomes changing it to a cashgrab
>but I don't have much faith in Blizzard when I consider their track record the last 5 or so years
It's because all the actual talent left at Blizzard have all been put to work on their new survival semi-MMO game that they have been making the last 6 years. The D4 team are all the B-tier developers. OW2 were all the C-tier developers. WoW are all the interns.
most of the people who are playing the game are too invested to really critique it properly. And anyone not playing doesn't have the context.
I hazard to guess this patch is ultimately good for the game in the longer run, but absolutely fricking terrible for the players. I doubt people will ever embrace it, and it might genuinely tank a large portion of the player base for maybe years.
Can i still pew pew after my 12 hour shifts as a tradie or should i an hero?
I main sorc and I went from deleting whole screens with iceshart build to hitting like a wet noodle snd dying to a gusts of wind.
You can play wt1 and be happy, but you'll struggle to find a fun way to play the game.
you can try. i think ultimately it'll be up to you and how you play that'll determine if you can continue enjoying the game through this patch or if you wanna take a break until they update the game again.
>Im having a hard time deciding if the backlash from this patch is just a cookies and milk tantrum or if blizzard really did just axe the game to death
See
and
The game isn't dead, but the lackluster season 1 + completely tone deaf approach from Blizzard to this patch has made it so that people are actually gonna leave the game and not bother checking in again until like a year or so has passed.
What the hell is a "cookies and milk tantrum"?
Eat your vegetables, son.
Can you just talk like a normal human being?
it's like they didn't learn anything from Diablo 3
>Now that Blizzard has rolled out the worst patch in their companies history
Black person are you serious?
wow 6.1 was the worst shit ever made
diablo 3 still exists and is actually fun
newbies don't remember that Diablo 3 was extremely rocky at launch and hated by fans as well for the first couple months. Blizzard will speed it up, make it more screen-explodey, and the morons will love it.
D3 was never this bad. Hell, not even warlords of draenor was shat on this hard by everyone.
I'm in awe how blizzard managed to piss off reddit, eceelebs, main forums and even twitter dickriders. That's an achievement.
D3 is unironically better than D4, D4 actually REGRESSED from what D3 had already fricking fixed over a decade ago
It's crazy that D4 doesn't have the ability to store builds, several stash tabs, leaderboards, armory, preview for possible enchantments, global chat, etc. when D3 had all of these things.
D3 was based because I made $1000 farming shit to sell on the RMAH in the first couple of months. Granted that was because Blizzard made it impossible for Monk and Barb to progress in Torment without buying some good ass gear but Demon Hunter and Wizards made irl $ off those people that lost at character select.
>Disgusting standards and practices are ok as long as I can profit from it! based yes man with a beard!
Yes. If Blizzard can't balance for shit, which is always true, I might as well get paid to play their garbage.
The actual problem is that the game is a boring pile of shit. D4 fans hope that there would be some magical patch that turns it into a different game entirely but all that they get are things that make the game worse. The patch in a vacuum is actually good for the longevity of the game. It's just unfortunate that the game itself sucks butthole.
If you're still consuming blizzard products in 2023 you get what you fricking deserve.
meanhile Im still playing original D2 LoD single player self found, around 5-6 hours per week, having a blast
very glad I didn't buy this trash
as many people have pointed out already, frick nu-blizzard
enjoy your 20 year old jank. diablo 4 on its worse day is still better than the first two games.
>buying and playing diablo iv
brain damaged gamers who deserve to be taken advantage of
this is some sort of strategy to beat poe, right? they dumpster the season 1 launch then in 10 days when exilecon and the new league happen blizz releases a "we fixed everything" patch to bring everyone in
it's a subconscious self sabotage attempt to make PoE more popular
Frick blizzard
Give me back my overwatch you shits
>3.15 KILLED POE IM PLAYING D4 FRICK THAT BALD FRICKING moron CHRIS WILSON!!
>blizz drops their own 3.15
Imagine playing ARPG slop
I have no idea how anyone can enjoy this trash
>hey, lets make a game which is mostly about you leveling and building your character because growing stronger and getting better gear is fun
>also
>scale everything to your fricking level so you never actually feel and progress
What a worthless experience. Doesn't even matter that some people enjoyed the story quite a bit. The people who got the game because they expected a great "Diablo" experience got fricked in the ass
>The people who got the game because they expected a great "Diablo" experience got fricked in the ass
After everything that has happened, you're telling me people expected a Blizzard game to be good?
Maybe the mentally moronic children, but come the frick on.
Gamers are fricking idiots that deserve to be robbed.
it's amazing how blizzard no longer understands the genre they pioneered
WHY DO YOU SOULLESS DRONES KEEP BUYING THIS SHIT FRICK I WANT YOU TO SUFFER FOR HOW FRICKING STUPID YOU ARE EAT YOUR GOYSLOP EEEEEEAAAAAT IT
How do you fall for this again and again and again? How do you endure this Sisyphean torture? Their name alone is a red flag but you bought the game anyways. Some of you got it for free then wasted precious hours, days, weeks on it only to get mad as if there were any other outcome but disappointment. Disgusting moronic "adults" should be shot.
Best game I've ever played, though
A toast to this anon that looks beyond Ganker's usual cynicism and enjoys something for what it is
you have shit taste
>eats literal shit
>"this is the best meal I've ever had"
>"a toast to this man for looking beyond the cynical standards of many picky eaters"
I think falling for Blizzard's bullshit is not the problem.
We got more of a case of the serial kleptomaniac switching profession to serial rapist. People have the right to be upset if instead of just the missing watch, they also have a sore butthole now.
So, it's a case of a bad game getting slightly worse? Everyone already told you idiots that it's shit but you said that you loved eating it. They're giving you more of what you love. Where's the problem?
>damage nerfs
>defense nerfs
>xp nerfs
So your endgame?
>running content +10 your level is way too fricking slow to be viable.
>still end up running +3 or +4 your level NMs depending on your build or clear speed for optimal leveling.
>except now you're earning half as much xp doing it as you were prepatch.
>and odds are your clear speed is slower.
>running groups is only marginally more efficient, just by virtue of being able to split up to do objectives and cut down on backtracking times.
>gearing up for t3 and t4 will take twice as long since helltides are nerfed to shit.
>you will be gatekept in t3 until level 70, even if you complete the dungeon earlier then that.
>your itemization wont change and youll ignore the season mechanics because you're going to be tired of getting one tapped.
>enjoy rolling amulets as strictly defensive too.
Bravo. I think ill just work some overtime at my job instead.
>i'd rather work a le real job
straight out of poe reddit, Ganker proving again it has always been the casuals
>your itemization wont change and youll ignore the season mechanics because you're going to be tired of getting one tapped
This is genuinely hilarious.
>equipping seasonal gear is a net negative and makes you weaker because the nerfs have made armor gems EVEN MORE IMPORTANT
>zero mention of fun or challenge
>only efficiency, xp per hour, and how long it takes to get your checklists done
when did video games become work? Frick
>fun or challange
Already existed in pushing NM's. Getting as strong as you can to go as far as you can.
Every change about this patch makes it take far fricking longer to get there. Nevermind if you actually wanted to get more than 1 character to level 100 in a season.
And what exactly is the challange in rolling more defense to make up for losing half of it to nerfs, slowing your game down heavily: or going full glass canon and slowing your game down heavily?
anon, taking twice as much to do half as much implies the game is now an unfun slog.
What exactly is Blizzard's strategy here? I completely lost interest in the season, I was hoping to run a new Sorc for season 1 with the upcoming rebalancing, with Charge Bolt and Lightning Ball, but they made everything WORSE.
Most of their developers don't play their game past wt2/end of campaign.
They genuinely thought that nerfing everyone and prolonging the leveling will be loved by the community because
>le hard game plz
Also Blizzard is well known for doing exactly the opposite what the playerbqse wants. They have managed to perfect this attitude in the last 20 years.
>What exactly is Blizzard's strategy here?
Rod Ferguson ruined Gears of War in this exact same way. He's an incompetent hack who has absolutely no clue about what playerbases want, and now he's in charge of the Diablo franchise, somehow. He has absolutely no strategy, he is just winging it like a drunk moron.
I agree that we should get old dudebro white guys out of the industry, they're wholly incompetent
Why are all Americans so ridiculously fat, moronic and trans? Explain yourself right now.
What did Rod do on Gears?
>Fergusson had gained a reputation from his days at Microsoft and Epic as a "closer", a management-level position that would help bring a troubled project to completion
>He was brought into this same role at Irrational as to assist the game's lead, Ken Levine, to make tough decisions on what content and gameplay that they needed to cut.
>Fergusson later said in a 2020 interview that the short period he had spent at Irrational validated the concept that he was a good "closer",[1] someone capable of helping to complete a troubled project to get it released on time, and for which had begun to get an industry reputation for.
He's basically the guy who goes "the game is good enough now, let's launch" even if the game isn't actually good enough for launch.
Ok but do we know what he actually did on Gears?
>noooo my hecking build got nerfed now I cant grind 500m xp per hour anymore!!!! now I have to reroll to the class that can!!! Now I have to spend another 2 months, frick blizzard!
blizzdrones are mentally ill. stay mazed
What class do you play? Play Necro? Remove all your crit abilities and tell me how it feels? Sorceror? Remove your fire crit passive and frost nova, and tell me how it's going.
I dont play shit games from shit companies designed to keep me grinding. Stay mazed
So you have no context but love Blizzard, got it.
I dont even know how you arrived at that conclusion, impressive mental gymnasitcs. Keep whining about how your shit game takes you 20% longer to reach a new level now, but by all means never stop playing it. Keep buying their new releases and keep paying their subs, wienersucker.
Tell me how giganerfing the weakest class in the game, so weak it stuggles to clear basic endgame content, is a good thing. Go on.
You gimped yourself on purpose by picking a bad class to begin with so you are enlisting in the game's hardest difficulty. Souls games operate the same way and are masterpieces. Problem?
Black person what? You can beat Souls games with starting armor and gear, that isn't even remotely a good conparison. A better comparison would be if straight swords recieved an 70% stat reduction while katanas, greatswords and all the others remain the same.
So what exactly is your interest in this? Since even talking about the game is somehow a strawman to you.
You can do endgame in ARPGs with starting gear at a low level too. You're good, right?
You picked the one ARPG I dislike so I'm afraid I genuinely can't comment on that.
Anon this is literally the opposite. Ultranerfs don't affect people not playing D4. It only affects people playing
>So what exactly is your interest in this?
laughing at moronic blizzdrones like you who keep buying their games then whining like battered wives when the games are shit and the patches are shit
you claim I'm defending blizzard, but you're the one buying their shit games. have a nice day
You have literally created a wierd boogeyman in your head. Launch D4 was fine, Blizzard fricked it with the new patch to push for player retention numbers and slow down progression so people use the battle pass. Blizzard sucks, sure, but you are literally defending and praising the game's problems... because? I guess?
Keep defending this shit game, you paid for it after all.
>still trying to spin it like i'm somehow praising the game
Blizzdrones are really something else
Your first post was
>noooo my hecking build got nerfed now I cant grind 500m xp per hour anymore!!!! now I have to reroll to the class that can!!! Now I have to spend another 2 months, frick blizzard!
>blizzdrones are mentally ill. stay mazed
Tell me how I'm not supposed to take it as you defending the patch problems. You created a fake situation with no context to erase actual complaints people made. How is that not defending the game?
I'll pass on engaging with your moronic strawmen, how about you tell me why you paid for this dogshit game instead?
This. You frickers that defended this game are ruining gaming by encouraging companies to push this battlepass microtransaction trash with your money. Everyone that played the beta saw this shit coming from 20 miles away.
Blizzard North's skeleton is laughing in the tomb.
Diablo3 sucked, too. the WoW devs are shitters
i guess i should thank them for freeing up the rest of my summer. no need to play season 1. what a joke. logged into my lvl 85 WW barb, the NM dungeons i could run previously are now a slog and i'm much squishier. dumb. also helltides, which were only kinda OK before, are now not even close to worth it. so there's only NM dungeons as end game content. cool.
Why is anyone surprised?
Anyone who has played ANY Blizzard game knows their balance team is absolutely fricking ass. Like this is nothing new.
Imagine your life is so shitty you actually wasted time and money on Diablo 4 lol
If you did this, have a nice day immediately
Since you're a frogposter I'm going to do the opposite of what you say. Sorry not sorry!
Imagine your life is so shitty you actually waste time going into Diablo 4 threads when you don't play the game.
You don't play it either, moron, You'd rather defend it on Ganker instead.
>You don't play it either, moron
I played it for like 200-250 hours and have done everything in the game, except Uber Lilith.
>Bad patch.
That sucks. Guess I'll just play offline until they fix it.
OH, WAIT
shit game gets patch to tailor how you play color me not surprised. when the game already pretty much ended at the 50s and turns into overtuned grindfest for the remaining part of the game with no real sense of progression.
there are people who put 70 dollars on this not even a side side like greenman gaming for cheaper straight up 70 plus dollars.
you could of literally for past month get grim dawn almost 3-4 times over and its expacs and give copies to your friends for a better experience of gaming then that
>could of
>grim dawn
I see it's another episode of an 80 IQ moron recommending Grim Yawn.
>Grim Dawn
if i wanted to play something that looked like a mobile game, i'd play Torchlight 2.
Sounds like that chat needs to get Scatmanned.
Like how does shit like this happen. Its like not a single developer plays their own game and just tries to make every decision based off nebulous data instead of looking at what the people playing your game are saying.
it's truly baffling. i mean i get that you can't always give the community exactly what they ask for because the consumer doesn't always know exactly what they want. but how the frick do you hear from players that classes need buffs, check the corresponding data you've been collecting to confirm their claim, and then respond by nerfing everything across the board? like maybe the classes that need buffs could have been left alone or needed less, i don't know. i just don't get how studios can push an entire update like this through their pipeline without anyone stopping them at any point to suggest they not nerf already weak characters.
I didnt play d4 so don't take this as a defense of blizzard, mostly just clicked on this to look at how they could possibly make d4 worse
however if you disagree that most players are fricking moronic animals and devs should NEVER listen to them you are one of those moronic animals
>Its like not a single developer plays their own game and just tries to make every decision based off nebulous data
That's literally what this is. The patch notes indicate as much. They addressed a series of complaints without considering what the end result would be.
did any of you fricks read the patch notes?
>nerfed (fixed) the broken op classes who were doing uber lilith no problem (hint, there was only 1 viable build per class that could do this; hota barb which was literally broken doing billions of damage, bone spear necro doing millions of damage with no setup, TB rogue and storm shred druid (literally broken due to being unkillable)
they buffed EVERY other stat to bring other builds up, including massive damage buffs for every stat
they killed powerlevelling which is a bit cringe but honestly these changes look really good, looking forward to actually being able to pick more than 1 build per class, and fricking around with minion blood lance build
>they buffed EVERY other stat to bring other builds up, including massive damage buffs for every stat
Clearly you did not read the patch notes yourself. Barb and Sorc are 100% dead classes for S1, for example.
>Speed reader
They then went on to gimp core stat bonuses, cool down reductions, cut crit/vuln damage in half, etc.
The end result is that you're weaker and take more damage and have even less choices on build.
ITT: pic related
the OP pic isn't the devs responding to players "having fun"
>literally no one in thread mentions d2
>post this
your inferiority complex is showing
It's simple, they looked at the patches for their biggest competitor in-genre (PoE) and copied what they've been doing.
which is moronic because poe had 10+ years of development in the power creep direction before they decided to tone it all back. They didnt destroy their game in its infancy when it had no content or interesting items that produced that powercreep in the first place
>people that give no shits about the game are fighting tooth and nail to defend it
I see Blizzard has learned the Epic Games marketing strategy of appealing to people who don't actually buy your shit.
i don't know why, but i can't escape this feeling that my character had more ability set options in Diablo 3 because of the rune system. i liked that sometimes a good rune would totally shift the way an ability works and how it's animation plays out. playing D4 i can't help but feel like i'll be using the same set of abilities with the same animations and particle effects 30 hours from now that i've been using for the last 8.
I see more people on Ganker defend blizzard and D4 than reddit/twitter/twitch/youtube
top fricking kek
Have you realized that people just use this place to farm (You)s yet?
there's a lot of entrenched blizzard fanboys that will be eternally loyal. you can see this with ecelebs and twitch streamers as they defend and cope such a shit tier game. lost ark has better gameplay and its f2p and you won't be waiting 5 years for some good boss fights
This shit happens all the time. Ganker has the biggest defenders of Fallout 76, Anthem and more on the internet. Funniest of all is that none of them have ever played the game too.
I played both 76 and anthem. Both are horribly flawed games that do a couple of things well. 76 beats fo4 in area and enemy variety, events are more engaging than fl4 quests and multiplayer fallout is a good formula. Shitty servers and thus stash limits and lag, always online, no npcs and thus dialogue options for several patches, plus all the bad sides of being a bethesda fallout game like unreactive enemies, bad melee combat, etc definitively give it reason to be shit on, but it's not 100% shit.
Anthem has some of the most incredibly satisfying mecha suit action ever. The feel of flying is fantastic and the multiplayer combat of priming and detonating let to really engaging moment to moment gameplay. The mech designs were cool and the abilities felt really great to use with really nice animation and sound design. Meanwhile the story was terrible and shallow, the characters are are ugly and boring and talk way too much about nothing. The hub makes you slow to a crawl and maneuvering it takes forever and slows down the game tremendously, loot was famously incredibly broken at launch, with everything performing worse than base level 1 weapons, making progression non-existant, major performance issues, and a host of other complaints are all more than valid. Anthem hurts so much because there's a solid core of something good buried in a pile of shit.
Show me 10 posts in this thread that are defending Blizzard.
Ganker has terrible taste in video games. If Ganker hates a game, chances are that it's good and vice versa.
Gaming subreddits are just a small group of hyper-chuds b***hing and claiming to hate their respective game that they also have over 4,000 hours in.
Those places seem way more active than Ganker, though. Reddit is also far more approachable/normalgay friendly than a cartoon website filled with incel nazis and mass shooters so I'd say Reddit is better at mirroring the average person's opinion than Ganker,
Reddit is astroturfed by every western government to manipulate morons into the agendas they deem useful, and it’s co-opted by mega corporations for the same reason. You should go back moron, it’s literally made for you.
You're clueless if you don't think the Internet's number 1 breeding ground for right wing extremists isn't used for the exact same reason. No memes you are a literal moron.
Wanting a functional society centered on the family unit is right wing extremism? Like I said, you should go back, stupid frick. You belong there.
How about I stay and watch you seethe?
I’m fine, youre the one inventing le scary right wing boogeyman in your head while you fellate every western government and corporate worldview as “normal”.
Take your schizo meds, homosexual. Why are you in a Diablo thread ranting about the west, anyway? Go to
Because I own the game homosexual, and no I think I’ll stay right here and watch you seethe 🙂 you’re a Black person btw.
>Because I own the game homosexual
Show a screenshot of your game in windowed mode with your own post next to it.
>Wanting a functional society centered on the family unit
Yeah, that's all we ever say here.
Come on. Who are you even fooling?
Who’s “we”?
this
you don't know how much it pains them to just imagine that someday microsoft will kill battle.net to bring their games to steam
I wonder if it's WoW addicts or just being kept alive via Activision CoD money, being the only reason Blizzard hasn't collapsed into a black hole or thrown into the CoD money pit dev-wise like everyone else.
>Ah yes, we've nerfed every class in this patch. This will satisfy our playerbase.
Who the FRICK in the playerbase asking for nerfs in a singleplayer/co-op game?
PoE players jumped ship to D4, Blizz was merely accommodating.
True this patch does make it feel more like home.
Did they fix the horrendous HDR or do some color adjust or something without putting it in the notes?
Suddenly the game looks beautifulas far as colors. The white haze is gone and my ginger druid werewolf is orange instead of mousey brown.
there are way better games out there like zombie panic, co-op horror, free on steam if u download today
>[expecting] a large amount of buffs to under used skills for all classes
lmao why would you ever expect that
Isn't that literally the point of making it a live service game? Being able to make updates to the content with patches? If you take that away, all that's left of the live service aspect is... online connection, cash shop and battle pass.
>Being able to make updates to the content with patches?
You can do that without live service.
Yeah, but one of the main features of ARPG seasons are specifically balance patches.
Yeah, but that has nothing to do with a live service model.
No the point of making a live service game is to keep people playing by dropping little bits of content all the time. If making garbage skills useful was ever part of the model you'd think at least one time one game would have actually done it. Patches like that simply do not happen.
I bet some jerkoff told the industry that keeping shit skills shit was better for retention.
>blizzard blanket nerfed all damage and defense for every single class, and even nerfed stats on already existing gear that players have already spent a month farming
This is the funniest fricking shit I've seen all year. Braindead blizzcucks deserve this and worse, get fricking wrecked you morons lmao
It gets even better.
>nerfed armor rating
>the new limited-time gear that's coming out next week requires you to sacrifice more armor to equip them
>in other words, the new fomo gear is arguably worse than using your current gear
Why not remove Sorcerer at this point?
>Why not remove Sorcerer at this point?
That's exactly what they just did. They threw Sorc and Barb into the dumpster. The game now only has 3 classes.
Isnt diablo like a PvE only experience? Shouldnt balance not even be a factor? Like, if you as a dev fricked up and a player can abuse a combination of items and abilities then it’s on you to respect that?
it's "balanced" to demand more time grinding
if a player can exploit a broken build to breeze through all available content, they will stop playing which reduces the chances they will spend money in the cash shop
it's all about extracting money from the player, and that goes for every game blizzard makes
Come home, gamer.
bruh if you don't like patches that nerf everything across the board poe is not the game for you
lol this fricking cope is absolutely hilarious. Poe has some of the most insane gameplay and power creep of any arpg to ever exist. It NEEDED to be toned back. D4 did not. It has no base content or interesting items to speak of yet. They should have focused on adding to the game not whatever horseshit they just did
>he still plays anything made by blizzard
how did these absolute drooling morons think nerfing sorc was a good idea, the class is barely fricking playable and they nerfed, absolute fricking morons
I am 99% sure they are gonna do their livestream and spout some absolute bullshit like "well, you see, we are planning to buff Sorc in season 3 or season 4 with a new feature, so it was better to just get the nerfs out of the way now, so we can buff it later without making it OP".
I guarantee you this comes on the heels of them somehow being surprised that people hit level cap already, and had planned on it happening after the start of the first season.
oh, 100%
this change is to prevent people from playing the game less by getting it done sooner so they have more chances ti soend money in their store
anthem is kind of a miracle, i didnt expect bioware to make such a good feeling shooter in like a year. 76 would have been amazing if the multiplayer wasn't forced and wasnt filled with israelite microtransactions.
sadly, corpocucks force moronic decisions that harm the games, a tale as old as dirt
>we want your sense of power to feel better as you progress, so we turned overworld enemies down 5 levels but also nerfed you into the fricking dirt while making activities worse
They're actively punishing you for still giving them money but you refuse to learn.
this lol
You just had to buy The New Diablo!! at full price, at release, and possibly then some.
Fricking rape babies
ha you played Diablo 4
moron
IDIOT
FRICKING MORON
Will casual players notice the difference between patch and pre patch or is it just try hards spazzing out?
WT3gays will find it easier by a large margin but anyone that's on WT4 will get fricked just because of the 30% cut to armor effectiveness.
Well, literally everyone will do like half the damage they did and take double the damage that they did. You'd have to be extremely casual and brain dead to not notice.
>casual players
70% of the playerbase stopped playing after the first weekend and never finished the campaign, they dont give a shit at all
It doesn't kick in until near the end of the campaign, basically. Very funny change.
People playing through the campaign for the first time won't really notice at all. The only people complaining are future microtransaction whales.
People into blizzard games are.... quite weird. At least with genshin fans I can understand being a pedo normie.
I think for people who have been playing since blizzard was blizzard its like being a registered political party voter. Yeah, your party is now a front for israeli interests and child sex trafficking but ILL BE GOD DAMNED BEFORE I LET THOSE FASCISTS/COMMIES TAKE AWAY MY BUTTSEX/GUNS!
Maybe not the message but the spirit.
campfire chat
suonds suspiciously like
this week at bungie
>Spend 100s of hours farming
>Everything gets nerfed by Blizz
>Bobby says thanks for the new boat
Honestly, I thought Bungie paypigs were the biggest cucks in vidya.
Why did you mention that first part? Diablo is a seasonal game.
>Invest ridiculous amount of time in game
>Blizzard nerfs everything to keep you in game longer
>Blizzgays will lap this shit up like the good little paypiggies they are
Did you not read my post? Diablo is a seasonal game. Everything resets and you start from scratch every season. So why do you keep mentioning investing time into the game as if you were going to keep your character(s) and gear?
Not him but probably because only gormless frickwits play seasonal. Go play pubg if you hate progress.
>only gormless frickwits play seasonal
You'd have to be an absolute moron to play an ARPG and NOT play seasons. Are you just going to play through the game once and then continue playing your maxed out character over and over again, despite having nothing left to achieve or play for?
>Go play pubg if you hate progress
People play seasons because they love progress and want to experience it over and over, what the frick are you on about?
>Are you just going to play through the game once
>You'd have to be an absolute moron to play an ARPG and NOT play seasons
Different anon here, I'm a minority but I refuse to play seasons, I hate the live service and fomo aspects of it. Making new characters and regearing them is the best but I hate the seasonal format itself. I don't need a player retention live service model to get me to start new characters. But since I play solo I can ignore it and take my time.
>I hate the live service and fomo aspects of it
>Making new characters and regearing them is the best but I hate the seasonal format itself
Alright, that's fair enough. You're essentially doing a self-imposed seasonal reset like that.
Yeah, I just like playing at my own pace and the season doesn't allow that, even if 3 months is a long-ass time. Plus there's the community involvement aspect I have no interest in since I play solo.
Yeah, playing at your own pace is pretty comfy. Can pick up the game and try something new. Put it down and do something else when I get bored.
>lemme just kick your sand castle so you can experience the pride and accomplishment of building it again
>trust me goy it's for your benefit, think about all the fun(tm) you'll have, unlimited value!
Blizzardgays deserve this patch. They deserve to be abused for being so moronic to continue buying Blizzard games.
>Diablo 4
>Future
Pick one.
You deserve this for buying Blizzard. No refunds!
D4 will become good, but it's just going to take like a year of development, plus an expansion, for it to happen.
>just wait for the full game
>just wait for the first patch
>just wait for next patch
>just wait for the first season
>just wait for a year
>just wait until the expansion
>just wait 10 more years
The beta that never ends for the drones...
They managed to fix D3 which was in a much worse state overall. The things that need to change in D4 for it to become good require way less work.
whats infuriating is that diablo 4s problems are problems they already fixed in 3, theyre so goddamn incompetent I actually wonder if its intentional
They did not fix shit, they just made some +10000000% damage sets that were mandatory and called it a day.
the highest theoretical power level in the diablo 3 meta atm is one that doesn't use set bonuses
Why do you even talk when you clearly only played D3 at the tail end of its life? D3 launch was extremely abysmal. It had no actual endgame. The drop rates were extremely bad because they wanted you to use the RMAH. The difficulty was completely out of whack with melees being nearly unplayable while DH were gods due to 1 skill. Every class had 1 build. Bosses had extreme amounts of HP, causing boss battles to be like 15-20 minutes long. I could go on.
RoS managed to fix all of these things. It introduced actual endgame activities. Drop rates were changed with loot 2.0. Difficulty was fixed. A lot of different builds suddenly became viable, etc. etc.
Diablo 3 was handed over to a new team that was tasked on making it into a game people would buy expansions for after they had to remove the RMAH. Their sole job was to make the game good.
Diablo 4 is a live service game that has not changed hands. The dev team's purpose is to keep people playing so they eventually cave and buy MTX. Quality is not the purpose of these updates.
The fact that people can't wrap their heads around this astonishes me.
D4 has 1-2 separate teams that are focused on making the 2 confirmed expansions that are currently in the works.
D4 is a mobile game dressed up as a AAA title and you're a fricking moron if you can't see that still.
You're missing the point. Diablo 3 changed hands and direction when the Real Money Auction House had to be shit down due to legal pressure from certain countries plus the mass bad PR. Their only way to make money was to sell expansions, so expansions had to be designed to make players like the game.
D4's model is one that preys on whittling you away slowly. It wants you to eventually buy that premium pass and those costumes. The expansions and seasons only serve to keep the game relevant so you keep playing it. You're moronic if you don't get it.
Since you know the future of what the expansions will be like, can you tell me the upcoming lottery numbers?
Do you just have a lack of pattern recognition or something?
No, I do have a pattern recognition, which is why I think that D4 can be fixed, just like D3 was fixed. This is called pattern recognition.
>Surely Blizzard will change the game designed around MTX to not be designed around MTX.
This is magical thinking. D3 was changed because they were getting in trouble with the RMAH, which they were planning on relying on for a constant revenue stream. They do not have this problem with D4. You are making a false equivalency out of pure cope. Plus, even if the expansion DOES fix this, you're waiting a year or more for a game you paid $70+ to be not mobile game tier trash. What the frick is wrong with you that you think that is in any way acceptable.
>Just wait a year and buy the expansion if you want a decent game!
Shut the frick up you little wienersucker.
>They do not have this problem with D4
If the game is shit they aren't going to be making any money through microtransactions and battle passes. So the situation is relatively comparable.
>What the frick is wrong with you that you think that is in any way acceptable
I don't think it's acceptable, but it's the situation that's at hand. There's not really anything that anyone can do other than be vocal about our disappointment with the game.
Yes, they will keep making money. You're an absolutely delusional fricking moron if you think a Blizzard game being shit means they won't have players. WoW still has like a million players. Genshin/Honkai are trash games and make money hand over fist. Destiny is one of the worst live service games on the market and it makes money hand over fist. You're fricking stupid, shut the frick up.
>Since you know the future of what the expansions will be like
Only in a moron's mind does "the focus and goals of this project are not the same as the one you cite as proof things will improve" mean "I know what all future content will look like."
How do you know what their aim with their expansions are? Go ahead and explain that to me.
true this patch is prepping the playerbase to spend money, just a natural transition from here
This. The game is a naked skinner box designed to keep you on the dopamine drip long enough to buy MTX and create a sunk cost fallacy. It is mobile game tier.
this is unironically how it feels to play modern fighting games.
dont play anime kusoge then
Imagine being one of the poor sods that thought playing a Diablo game by Microthesdactiblizzking would be a good idea
>nerfed all damage and defense
Thanks for soft locking my Rogue blizzard
>people that have never played D4 and potentially Diablo in general having a long discussion about D4 with people that actually played D4
It's always funny to bash Blizzdrones. You shouldn't be shocked when randoms come in to mock you guys. You financially support one of the worst vidya game companies. Their only innovations nowadays are coming up with creative new ways to shove microtransactions in their games. Fans defend those practices, too. It's disgusting.
Anon, you literally let us live rent free on your head.
More like people are bored and bashing you morons is low hanging fruit.
You can, sure, but while you defend D4's shitty balance to the death to spite us, we will all have gotten sick of D4's bad patches, moved on to CP2077 dlc and Baldur's Gate 3 while Blizzard and us live rent free in your head.
>but while you defend D4's shitty balance to the death to spite us
I don't know what you're talking about. It sounds like you're talking about a single random anon ITT not gamers in general that mock blizzdrones. Anyone that played the free beta for 5 minutes experienced how bad the game is.
I told my wife the patch just made things a little harder and nerds are freaking out about it, she said they can change the difficulty xD
God i love her
>well good gracious dear why dont you play one of your other games like minecat or footnote
and then you guys laughed so hard her dialator fell out
Most of the criticism is so over the top vitriolic that the fans/gamers recognize that there seems to be something else going on, and they want the opportunity to play the game and make their own opinion and not be dictated about it and the game is good, the game has a great heart and the game is for the fans.
seems like typical blizzard.
seeing them balance games is like watching a toddler consistently putting pegs in the wrong hole despite everyone desperately trying to point out the correct one
PoE does the same thing every new patch but when Blizzard does it suddenly it's a tragedy?
They were supposed to be a nice arpg, where you have fun, not eat shit. What's the point playing if I could get the same shit eating experience in poe and bough diablo 4 specifically to not do that?
people spent money on this and inmortal, gamers deserve the endless sodomy for buying Blizz shit.
>blanket buff all damage
>blanket nerf all defense
>mix more stats onto gear which doesnt accomplish anything
>nerf vuln which wont do anything
>nerf crit which wont do anything
>top tier builds will still be top tier
what was the goal here actually
>blanket buff all damage
>nerf vuln which wont do anything
>nerf crit which wont do anything
moron
it doesnt do anything. those stats will still be the best. and thats with buffing everything else by 25%.
Buffing everything else does not compensate nerfing vuln and crit. They are buffing additive and nerfing multiplicative. Learn some math.
It's fricking great.
>nerf Frost Nova
>nerf Devouring Blaze
>but nerf everything else too
>Frost Nova and Devouring Blaze are still meta because you nerfed the off-meta as well, both the good and the bad skills
My sorcerer meteor build got triple nerfed and it was already bad
Legitimately just going to frick off and go play something else instead of season 1
I take back everything I ever said about Chris Wilson, there is clearly a balder and more moronic person doing the balance changes for D4
>Sorc
>good
lmao
This patch:
>Dear Bone Boys - Get fricked LOL
>Druids, Barbs, Sorc get buffs
>Rogue gets some footnote buffs but needs none of them
Barb and Rogue are still the best classes in the game.
>Barb and Rogue are still the best classes in the game.
Barb is literally the 2nd worst class in the game now, right behind Sorc. What the frick are you talking about?
What the frick are you on about? Everyone will be doing 50% less damage and take 50% more damage. Builds like HotA Barb are also absolutely gutted, something like Earthen Bulwark has been fixed and thus is also gutted, TB Rogue is likely gutted due to the self-healing nerf, Sorcs are in the absolute gutter overall and their Lilith-killing build has been fixed, etc. etc.
No, they blanket buffed base level damage and then blanket nerfed exponential damage. The end result is a blanket damage nerf. If they wanted to remove damage multiplier/crit reliance, they should have buffed damage until normal hits were the same as old crits and new buffs/crits should only offer a slight increase.
>he thinks it's not intentional
It's 100% intentional to make the game much harder and grindier for season 1 because the longer you play the more likely you are to buy MTX. They are going to show you guys with maxed out battlepasses and shop gear in the open world just destroying everything while you struggle just to give you the false sense of "if I buy from the shop I will be stronger". They do this in CoD with their skins.
Not what I said. I was pointing out that if they actually wanted to do what they said (remove buff/crit reliant metagame), they wouldn't handle the rebalance this way.
making people take more time to do anything which makes them more likely to interact with the store.
The patch only exists to slow down the game because people were clearing it too fast and their seasonal model can't allow that
Activision's grace period of the game is over. They've got the initial sales down. Now they're going to make the game shit and over the next few years incrementally make it really good. Thank god Baldur's Gate 3 is around the corner.
Why do Diablo fans keep saying that? BG doesn't have much crossover at all. D3 and 4 are barely even RPGs much less a turn based D&D inspired on.
I haven't played Diablo 4 cause I'm not that big of a fan. But I love BG series. It's just a coincidence really. We knew how Activision-Blizzard treats its other Games as a Service games from player's retrospective opinion on previous games. Like Call of Duty.
How could blizzard squander the trust they’ve built up with the community over the past 2 months..
spoonfeed me the changes. Dont refer me to a post in this thread Im not reading all of it, reply to this post
Small buffs to all actions.
But then big nerfs to cooldowns and damage affixes and crits.
And big nerfs to armor.
that's what they get for paying $70 for a game as a service
enjoy
nobody here talks about the true reason here:
It's a GAAS. They need you to grind for their economic model to work.
>It's a GAAS. They need you to grind for their economic model to work.
that's why sony's plan to release 12 gaas is the worst thing they could have thought
also if the servers die, the game dies because they don't plan to make a offline mode
just don't play blizshit
simple as
just a reminder that blizzard fired the leads who made this game great like a year ago and you're finally seeing what the new leadership thinks is fun
>thinks is fun
That's where you're getting it twisted. They know it's not fun. It's not about fun. It's about engagement metrics. They put people in charge that care about psychologically manipulating players into buying MTX. Stop thinking that the people doing this are just idiots that don't know how to have fun in a game. They absolutely know this isn't fun and they don't care because the goal was always to bait and switch their players. They knew if they could get the hooks in before S1 then no matter how awful they made S1 those players would stay and pay for MTX. They do not give a single frick if any of their players are having fun engaging with the game just that they are on the dopamine drip and playing the game because the longer they get you to play the more likely you are to SPEND.
never assume someone is evil when you can assume they're incompetent and don't know their playerbase
My guy, you are so open minded that your brain has fallen out.
>90% of live service games are designed this way
>Call of Duty runs this model
>WoW ran this model for three expansions
>OW2 runs this model
>SURELY IT'S JUST INCOMPETENCE DUDE T-THEY'RE NOT E-EVIL
Wake the frick up.
>90% of live service games are designed this way
yeah because the devs are incompetent, that's why most liver services fail
>ow2 as an example of evil devs and not massively incompetent ones
lmao
incompetence is sucking at being greedy and doing it so obviously even the cattle notices it.
It's painfully obvious what the intention of these changes was, they just made them so excessive everyone caught on
>never assume someone is evil when you can assume they're incompetent
this does NOT apply to corporations (and greed), its almost other way around in that case, they mastered evil to make it less obvious
What reason is there to buy MTX anon? It's all cosmetics.
>playing gothic cookie clicker presented by blizzard
shiggydiggy
But I love clicking!
Ooooh how I love clicking and clicking!
Big numbers dood, numbers go up and legendary weapons ooooo
What's with calling ARPGs cookie clickers? Is this a new zoomer meme I missed no cap?
Sounds like the time I saw a kid calling Magic the Gathering combat "Plants vs Zombies simulator."
remember the buttfrick patches that wow got in bfa and sl? take a guess on what team these devs are nowdays and why dragonflight is so much better in every aspect
The game was already complete shit, did people really expect any different? As someone who was a Blizzard shill even though WoW's previous 2 expansions, it's over. Dragonflight, Overwatch 2, and Diablo 4 have all been absolute trainwrecks. I doubt anyone at the company even plays video games anymore besides on their phone. Blizzard is dead.
Dragonflight is dog shit. Every single thing they've released is unfinished, broken, or just plain worse than Shadowland's equivalent.
>The game was already complete shit, did people really expect any different
look at their official forums.
there's dozens of posts calling others 'blizzdrones' when their post history revealed they shit on the game before it released and continued to buy it anyway.
diablo players especially, don't care about a quality product, and they don't buy it because they want to like it. they buy it for the fabricated entitlement of having something to b***h about and feel superior over.
>I spent $70 so you owe me a good game! I could do better, you're a blizzdrone for not seething like me! Ignore the fact that I also continue to give blizzard money
What do you mean by "diablo players"? Nobody hates modern Diablo games more than fans of Diablo 1 and 2. Even Diablo 3 players are shitting on D4 from what I can tell.
>Nobody hates modern Diablo games more than fans of Diablo 1 and 2.
They all bought diablo 4.
I didn't. I play tested it back in October though and already saw the writing on the wall. What I don't understand is how old school ARPG fans defended the game up until this point. Like it literally doesn't compute in my head because D4 is everything I hate about modern ARPGs.
Not really the game sold less copies than D3 did, so objectively lots of people who were fooled by D3 didn't fall for it this time.
It's selling faster than D3 did at launch.
Not that anon, but it's also got 1000x more aggressive marketing and had the same Pokemon effect where loads of people got onto the hype train of "wow, it's new, they're going to fix everything!!!" and bought it anyway, trapped in a fanboy haze for just long enough to get past the return window and be locked in.
D4's got a worse reception than before, but it doesn't have the explosively negative shockwave that was the RMAH to blow things out of the water.
Far as I can tell via the few people I know IRL that bought D4, they were ultra-mega-crazy-hyped for a few days then just stopped talking about it. One guy's still playing, I think, but he's always been that kind of guy that bases his tastes entirely on critic review scores, actively forcing himself to like something and love it unironically if it gets rated highly, like he's trying to intentionally change his tastes to be more "correct".
>Blizzard reflexively pissing away any and all good will they're able to generate
All these pre order gays, especially the early access trannies, are so mad right now.
We told them not pre-order and wait for a couple of weeks.
funny that blizzard does something moronic right after fussing about baldurs gate 3
Don't care I never even considered buying it because I have standards.
I thought the OP was about WoW's 11.0 patch for a second. We'll probably have this exact same thread once 11.0 launches.
>playing live services "games"
lmao kek lol rofl
>from blizzard no less
LMAO KEK LOL ROFL
>Kill your first season before it even launches
>Second season already doomed because PoE2 will be out by then
This bald fricking moron WON by doing absolutely nothing.
season already doomed because PoE2
There is no way poe 2 releases in 2023, they do 4 months leagues now and 3.23 is confirmed to not be poe 2. Also, why would you think that people, dissatisfied with developer nerfing shit out of everything and bringing some power back with season gimmicks will turn to a game where developer is nerfing shit out of everything and bringing some power back with league gimmicks?
PoE nerfing shit after 10 years is completely different from D4 nerfing shit after 43 days.
>its different
No it's not
Yes, it is.
No, it isnt.
Yes, it is.
No, it isn't. I have absolutely nothing to do for the next 5 hours btw
Not that guy but you're lying when you say poe only nerfs shit after 10 years.
Theyve nerfed stuff right after the next league. Some nerfs even happen mid league
Not that guy either but the difference is that D4's nerfs are intended to make the game less fun and more grindy for the sake of selling shit like the battlepass. If you guys think that the pass is going to be solely cosmetic, I have a bridge to sell you.
I never said that PoE ONLY started nerfing shit after 10 years.
>Theyve nerfed stuff right after the next league. Some nerfs even happen mid league
Okay, but did they ever reduce everyone's damage by 50% and make everyone take 50% more damage, 43 days after its release?
I hate when people without 20k hours of poe talk about it
I predict that PoE's new season will have an enormous amount of first time newbs that will disappear within a single day after press P.
Why nerf strong classes instead of only buffing weaker classes?
Because Diarrhea 4 has no content so they want to increase the longevity of player time by making classes worse so that it takes longer to level up.
>nerf XP gains overall.
>nerf cinder drops into the ground so you're lucky to get one chest per helltide event
>woooah the community doesn't like their boring grind time being doubled?! no waaay!
>get one chest per helltide event
and its not like they tuned their "smart loot" system to give you exactly that beefy % upgrade on that perfect 4/4 item (or what gives rare aspect high roll) that you need
its just the game was tuned for beta and to soothe early purchasers shortly after release for good reviews and more sales
it was intentionally overtuned result was that people ate their content like snacks and endgame was already reached, i.e. grinding through nightmare for gold and %% increase to eventually be able to beat the end boss encounter after that a number of players would probably have stopped playing until next content patch / expansion or rerolled other classes (if they are not neets that already had enough time in that timespan of 1 1/2 months to bring X-classes to 100+)
it boggles my mind how they can frick this game up so hard if its just a pve game
noone gets hurt when you can solo kill lillith
and frankly there should be options in the game that especially allow this
forcing you to play with other people is cancer but heey what am i talking about
this game is goyslop in disguise
Nothing that a line of some gay t-shirts and sweaters can't solve kek.
RPG games are shit since meta homosexualry. Might just replace builds with a default class and remove cookbook grind.
>if you don't like meta, just ignore it and play by your own terms
modern games are balanced around meta or at least with meta builds in mind.
Hey! Stop being racist, incel! Sheesh, thank you reddit mods for removing that racist incel shit from our website. You did it fast, and you did it for free.
If you bought Diablo 4 in 2023 from current Blizzard, you deserve every bad patch happening to you.
>make game, people buy it for $70 - $100
>shit on the game to cut server costs when people stops playing
it's brilliant!
>two of my friends keep bugging me about "this time they did it, old Blizz is back baby!"
>know that they're huge Blizzdrones who gobble up every new release
>one of them buys every WoW expansion at release in the deluxe edition and plays it for only 2-3 weeks tops, if at all
>they drop D4 after 3 weeks like a hot sack of shit, both of them separately saying "I think this kind of game isn't my thing anymore"
I guarantee you they will play it again once the season starts, probably buy a battle pass or whatever only to drop it a week later.
We're really in this weird place where so many devs think giving the players a proper power fantasy experience is problematic.
HOP HOOP WOOP HOP
It'll always be shit compared to Diablo 4 even on its worst day
I can hear you choking on your own tears
Watching people have meltdowns over D4 has been better entertainment than D4 could have ever been.
>Campfire Chat
They're gonna light an open fire in their office?
Any news on the Escape Scrolls?
Why was DC protection removed from HC mode anyway?
You deserve this suffering for buying a game that you knew was going to do this shit from the get go. How are you fricking surprised? Seriously how? How are you so fricking irredeemably moronic? At what point has blizzard done anything with ANY of their IPs in the last DECADE to make you think “nah this is gonna be the one, I just feel it.
gonna play it, it will be fun not having to pick up pennies like poe
i cant believe people thought anything else was coming.
for d3 release they were perma nerfing everything from drop rates to hotfixing strong abilities. in immortals they were constantly gigafricking players.
if you were dumb enough to buy release d4 you deserve the idiot tax you paid.
deal with it chuds, you lost, your min maxed builds are usseless and will have to play like the devs intended.
What exactly does the devs want us to play? Sorcerer has 3 build types (Chill - damage, Shock - crit rate, Burn - crit damage) and all three got nerfed. Shock Sorc and Burn Sorc as is are so weak they struggle to beat Uberlith, I can't imagine now.
If the leveling curve is to much for you after 60, just remember you can pay to fast track the battlepass and use your ash for an EPIC experience upgrade 🙂 HUZZAH!
I'm sure +12-15% mob XP is going to make a huge difference.
because that is the last "improvement" that this company will ever "hotfix"
Uh yeah it will absolutely
Blizzard has more important things to do than listen to you chuds
Those poor frickers will be scraped off and replaced with few if any hired.
wow let me guess the blue haired girl is a narrative designer who wants more gay characters?
>narrative designer
Btw does anyone know or care about what happened in the D4 story?
Parents fighting and the psychotic mother killed their son to spite the dad. Something like that.
No the psychotic angel father killed their son to spite his demon mother and return to the favor of an uncaring heaven
blizzard couldn't even balance WoW after all this time, they couldn't balance Overwatch, why the frick does anyone think they can balance this??
>WoW has 13 classes(each with 3 specs), has PvE(5man, 10 man, 20 man) + PvP(1v1 duels, 10v10/40v40 BGs, 2v2/3v3/5v5 arena.
>OW has 37 heroes, is 5v5 PvP.
>D4 has 5 classes(1-2 viable builds per class), only is balanced around PvE(they have said they are never going to balance anything in regards to PvP).
I don't know why you'd make your post sound like WoW or OW would be easy to balance, compared to D4, when it's the exact opposite.
I don't know why you'd make your post sound like they didn't design those games to begin with
How's Path of Exile doing these days, I haven't played an ARPG since 3's disappointment
It's absolutely extraordinary what a legacy Blizzard established themselves during their golden age that this long after it ended people still think Blizzard makes good games
Honestly the open world and feeling of playing the game is really fun, I just wish they didn’t make it such a slog by repeatedly weakening the characters
i don't think any patch could make me interested in playing again, it's just a boring game
Blizzard lost it's trust.
So how bad exactly are necro minion builds? I was saving my first necro playthrough for season 1, am I going to have to play a stupid build for that to work? Or is using a made up non minmaxed build just awful
>Season 1 patch just a bunch of nerfs
And blizzdrones still suck their wiener KEK
It's insane and /wowg/ think they are winning lmao.
My God, again? This happened in D3 as well I remember. Thank frick I didn't get duped into playing D4.
Diablo 3 was the exact opposite. It was super fricked and unbalanced at launch and everything was way too hard. The first big patch nerfed all the stupid shit enemies had and buffed almost every single skill 20 to 50%.
Instead of adding more useless stats to gear like in 4 they made it so legendaries will always roll with a good damage increasing stat
The crowning achievement of the D4 team is they somehow made the Overwatch team look good by comparison.
>imagine buying a blizzard product in current year
>imagine buying a $70+ videogame in current year
>imagine buying D4 after everything that happened with D3
you homosexuals deserve this
>blizzard rolls a shit patch
>community outrage
>hold a community saying they're listening
kek and people still say they'll change
I've already stopped playing and I didn't make it anywhere close to endgame, got to level 52 and put it down. My main is a necro and honestly just completing the main quest felt like a fricking slog. I tried a few different builds, but they all felt like shit when I wasn't using bone spear.
Main gripes
>Inarius is barely fricking in the game but was central to the advertising
>Main quest is jam-packed with filler busy work to stretch the playing time
>Loot sucks, constantly getting gear way under my level or legendaries for skills that aren't good
>Talent tree creates the appearance of depth but very few builds are actually good
>It's not fun doing lilith's altars but you kind of have to
>WT2 just made the game more of a slog with little benefit (at least this is fixed now)
>Necro minions are fricking useless
The only way I could do any decent damage was with bone spear causing vulnerability, which has now been nerfed by 40%. It's very kind of Blizz to give me more reasons to play actually fun games instead, at least.
What game is good right now, to play
>What game is good right now, to play
The Wonderful 101
WoW retail is unironically in the best shape it has been in years.
Sure, but then again you're comparing it to the flaming shitheaps that were BFA and SL.
Who the frick pays attention to the patches for these games?
Are you trying to MLG a fricking dungeon clicker random chance loot game?
Get the frick out of here with that nonsense.
I played the beta of this for one day and already got bored of it.
Eat slop, get treated like cattle. Its what you deserve
good patch, problem is it should have been implemented at launch so people didn't become accustomed to their cheese specs
>be me
>see that the game is going to be shit based on the beta alone and extrapolating the expirience on the rest of the game
>PR shills Battlepass and nothing else
>its 100% going to be a milking simulator with very lazy design
>didnt buy the game
>mfw everything went just like i predicted
i dont pity degenerates who fell for meme and spent 100$ on this 30$ F2P riddled game
They deserved it and i spit on them for encouraging Blizzard's scummy practices
I feel like the gaming industry is at the point where companies can do whatever they want and get away with it. This whole situation reminds me of when I was a bully for a few years in school and would egg on kids to fight me by shoving them and talking shit in their face. Like some of the kids back then, if consumers don't fight back, they're going to keep getting fricked with.
>gaming compaines keep pushing us around and doing what they want
>"gamers" (normies and consoomers) complain but don't do anything else
>bullying escalates
>now you owe them your lunch money (lootboxes, season passes) from now on
>this will keep getting worse
>now they're just fricking with you for fun (YOU ARE HERE)
And it will keep happening and you will keep owing them money because you won't fight back, homosexual.
btw, most of these dev and "community" leaders are really easy to look up on social media so a bit of dirt digging will net you ammo for accusations which, even if they don't stick, might be enough to get them fired or shuffled around in the company.
Shut up you cynical bully