The only other one that matters, sure you have your asuses and your ayaneos but they fricking suck, only the SteamDeck has anything resembling quality control and good engineering.
>I wanna play games in bed >one long cable >one cheap ass 16 inch LED TV mounted to a wall >the controller you already have
There. Saved you $300 and you're not holding a 1 lb cinderblock up to your eyes
I'm about to buy a deck.
Tell me about dual boot.
Is it going to take up a lot of space in SSD?
Can it customize and adjust the power settings like steamos can?
>Tell me about dual boot.
windows will eat your linux partition on update >Is it going to take up a lot of space in SSD?
yes, better buying a windows optimized device like asus rog ally >Can it customize and adjust the power settings like steamos can?
default windows cannot do this. you want armor crate which is exclusive to asus rog ally
I would get a rog ally, but it currently have a lot of launch hiccups, and there's also the SD card being fried issue that pop up recently, and most likely due to hardware designs, so they can't fix that easily.
Another question for SteamDeck owner then, how often do you encounter a game that you can't launch?
>how often do you encounter a game that you can't launch?
all the time, deck extremely shit and flop in this regard. many people complain about this. if it is windows, it runs.
>Tell me about dual boot.
windows will eat your linux partition on update >Is it going to take up a lot of space in SSD?
yes, better buying a windows optimized device like asus rog ally >Can it customize and adjust the power settings like steamos can?
default windows cannot do this. you want armor crate which is exclusive to asus rog ally
Guess it's not a good time to buy right now then.
I will wait and see if ASUS manage to "fix" the sd card frying issue.
And hope they will come up with an update to optimize low watts' battery performance, so I can use it for more than 5 hours like SteamDeck can.
Most of my games on Steam play out of the box. Non-steam games require some fiddling for them to work but it's still doable. It's only some multiplayer ones that are impossible to run.
ltsc also can brick your linux. some updates override the bootloader. the only way to prevent that is to completely remove windows update from the hdd, otherwise it will turn on at some point and do the needful
ltsc also can brick your linux. some updates override the bootloader. the only way to prevent that is to completely remove windows update from the hdd, otherwise it will turn on at some point and do the needful
absolutely moronic. I have been dual booting windows 11 on my deck for a year now, and literally nothing has happened. How desperate do you have to be to make this shit up?
just because it didnt happen to you doesnt mean its not happening. windows update not only bricks other systems, it often bricks windows too. every few weeks windows update literally uninstalls graphic drivers and replace them with windows update ones. there are literally tutorials on youtube how to disable this "feature". widows is that shit
>just because it didnt happen to you doesnt mean its not happening
If I have windows on the deck, and windows on the deck updates in the same way, then why the FRICK would it not also happen to me, if it happened at all? Am I magic?
>Is it going to take up a lot of space in SSD?
Yes. Windows is a space hog to the point a lot of people boot Windows out of a high capacity microSD instead, or a sata/nvme enclosure to usb-c. Also Windows doesn't play nice with Linux bootloaders, installing it on the same SSD with SteamOS might brick the latter's installation. >Can it customize and adjust the power settings like steamos can?
It can but it's much less convenient. In Steam Deck's default OS the power management menu can be brought up with a couple of button presses after boot.
Good choice. I love my deck. I travel a lot for work and privately so it's perfect.
I don't wanna be that forum guy but genuinely curious: why dualboot? Everything just werks on steamOS.
I'm just saving dual boots as the extra option in case there's any games that I wanted to play doesn't work on photon.
I already found 1 game that's an old game and had to run with dxwnd, and have music not playing issue.
You're really better off just buying an SSD and putting windows on that and then swapping when you want it
Sounds too troublesome, and I have to bring another ssd with me all the time?
No thanks.
Have you tried Lutris? There is a fix for that. I currently dont have my deck with me but after install you can just hit "configure" and open winecfg, go to the "Libraries" tab and set dsound to "Builtin."
I haven't even buy SteamDeck yet.
I'm just getting the information from photondb.
This is the game.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2059810/Richman_4/
Alright. I installed plenty of old games on mine. From actual CDs I still have or from GOG using Lutris. Amazing software. I even managed to get games running through it while the steam version wouldn't work.
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Sounds promising.
Thanks anon. For taking your time.
If possible, I don't want to dual boot either, I don't care about anything on the windows aside of just running games.
>trackpads >same battery with the steam deck, less efficient that the deck in low power modes, therefore worse battery life than the Steam Deck whose battery life is already kinda shit >windows moronation not worth the compatibility in most cases. steamOS is plug and play nicely integrated with steam and more polished. steam deck can already run windows if that's such an issue >base steam deck with a 1TB 2230 ssd (400+80 bucks) costs less than base Rog Ally (600 bucks) >valve committed to providing updates that consistently bring significant performance improvements and new features, excellent customer support, asus might give up the device after half a year, has a bad reputation with customer support
>Trackpads
the post literally ends right there. If you've never played something on deck you won't understand the sheer bliss you get by having those. Touch menus, mouse movement and remappability are insane on those. I won't start a console war since they are both PCs, but Rog Ally really isn't an option.
I add gyro to so many games man. Even RTS like Ghost Master. Binding middle mouse button to touching of the right stick and also enabling gyro with it makes for amazing camera movement.
Oh that's a great idea, thanks for that. I was going to try an RTS setup soon, been mulling over it in my head. So far I was thinking this:
Left analog stick - Camera movement
Left trackpad - Bound to minimap area and left-click on touch, meaning it moves the map around as you want
L1/R1 - Left/right click (not sure which side is which)
L2 and R2 - Ctrl and Shift for managing control groups
D-pad - Numbers 1-4 for managing and selecting control groups
Face buttons - Movement commands like attack move, patrol, etc
Right analog stick - Radial menu for selecting unit commands like spells. This will be easier on games where it's standardised to always use QWER or similar, but could be done for any game with tinkering.
Right trackpad - mouse movement
This leaves all four back buttons free for whatever unique stuff each game has, such as diplomacy/research menus and such.
You're welcome. It works really well. You can also invert individual gyro axes if something feels unnatural. I recommend you learn about mode shifts and changing action sets while holding down a key. I have an amazing profile for Dungeon Keeper 2 you might wanna look into to give you an idea. It is called "Dungeon Keeper 2 - Perfect Layout" or something. Just search for "Dungeon Keeper 2" in the community on some game.
Last tip for touch menus. ALWAYS go to the options of the menu and set the trigger type to "Touch release", otherwise you'll get very different outcomes to what youre actually trying to do
For the DK2 profile I set touching the stick to hold down X on keyboard and then made the stick a mouse and set the mouse movement speed extremely low, you can really do a lot to make everything work nicely
This makes sense now that I think about it, although I am a bit concerned about using the right hand for literally everything at once. Still, I guess that's how RTS works with a mouse anyway.
Ganker is the spoiled child that's throwing tantrum for attentions.
They don't even hate the thing, they just want attentions so badly because they didn't interact with anybody at all for days, weeks, months or even years.
It's literally just a single seething moron making these threads. Probably a south american ape, because they're the only ones who care about console or platform wars in 2023 still.
The problem with Ganker is that the people who hate something or just want to shitpost can do it all day like morons and never have to regard any opinion to the contrary. Of the people who actually like the thing a portion of them will post so autistically that you can't tell it from trolling, another portion will just blandly say they liked it, and the rest will focus only on the shit they don't like about it either because they're so brainwashed by "both sides" bullshittery that they must find fault in everything or because they actually found faults and want them fixed and come here to scream into the void.
This makes it seem like everyone hates everything because every post is negative.
4chins is the only place where I can be honest without consequences and the catalogue is so inundated with garbage, fanboys and shitposters I wouldn't normally ever interact with so it's real easy to be real honest about how shit it is and how stupid they are.
Yet it's still better than everywhere else and there are good threads and discussions to be had for those who can tune out all the bullshit.
It didn't flop people just hyped it up as something it wasn't. The deck was never made to compete with the Nintendo Switch it was made to compete with Handheld PCs. When you accept that reality it's the most successful device in it's circle.
>When you accept that reality it's the most successful device in it's circle.
tbh that's probably the GPD win 4 or the Max 2 or whatever. They sell VERY well in China and Japan, and those countries are far bigger on handhelds than western countries.
these threads are made by shills that need to always bring awareness to the steam deck in some shape or form. that would explain why there's three threads about it right now even though the device is so outdated. just get the rog ally instead
Why would I buy a stupid steam deck if most games are incompatible on it, it needs Windows for a decent gaming experience and cannot be connected to a second screen or controller
Check in with you nation buddies
It didn't flop? It's the second most successful handheld on the current market after the Switch.
>It's the second most successful handheld on the current market after the Switch.
Its the ONLY OTHER FRICKING ONE
>Its the ONLY OTHER FRICKING ONE
>anon doesn't know about the other handheld
I guess Asus lost hard
The only other one that matters, sure you have your asuses and your ayaneos but they fricking suck, only the SteamDeck has anything resembling quality control and good engineering.
Pathetic
Nobody needs a second PC for any reason
many people saying this
But it is it portable? I wanna play games in bed dammit!
>But it is it portable
steamie shitdeck has 90 minute battery so no not really
It has a long as frick charging cord moron. Who doesn't have an outlet near their bed?
>has 90 minute battery
If you play modern AAA, I got 7 hours of ps2/wii/gamecube gaming
>I wanna play games in bed
>one long cable
>one cheap ass 16 inch LED TV mounted to a wall
>the controller you already have
There. Saved you $300 and you're not holding a 1 lb cinderblock up to your eyes
steamie gaben semen sloppers will ignore this post
>all those extra items
show your hand, I bet you stole all those stuffs
>Buy a 500 toy to play on the toilet
I was playing Smash melee on the toilet the other day. Was good stuff throwing bombs as link and dropping ones irl.
why are americans like this
I'm a brit, not a yank.
did i stutter
The proper term is Anglo-Saxon, tovarisch.
I'm about to buy a deck.
Tell me about dual boot.
Is it going to take up a lot of space in SSD?
Can it customize and adjust the power settings like steamos can?
>Tell me about dual boot.
windows will eat your linux partition on update
>Is it going to take up a lot of space in SSD?
yes, better buying a windows optimized device like asus rog ally
>Can it customize and adjust the power settings like steamos can?
default windows cannot do this. you want armor crate which is exclusive to asus rog ally
I would get a rog ally, but it currently have a lot of launch hiccups, and there's also the SD card being fried issue that pop up recently, and most likely due to hardware designs, so they can't fix that easily.
Another question for SteamDeck owner then, how often do you encounter a game that you can't launch?
>how often do you encounter a game that you can't launch?
all the time, deck extremely shit and flop in this regard. many people complain about this. if it is windows, it runs.
same, i sell deck and buy ally
very informative, thanks you
i will ask my wife
Guess it's not a good time to buy right now then.
I will wait and see if ASUS manage to "fix" the sd card frying issue.
And hope they will come up with an update to optimize low watts' battery performance, so I can use it for more than 5 hours like SteamDeck can.
>i will buy asus rog ally
yes i will do the same
Most of my games on Steam play out of the box. Non-steam games require some fiddling for them to work but it's still doable. It's only some multiplayer ones that are impossible to run.
asus shill do the needful sirs good morning to you sweetie
>windows will eat your linux partition on update
why wouldn't you install LTS if all you want is games lol
ltsc also can brick your linux. some updates override the bootloader. the only way to prevent that is to completely remove windows update from the hdd, otherwise it will turn on at some point and do the needful
absolutely moronic. I have been dual booting windows 11 on my deck for a year now, and literally nothing has happened. How desperate do you have to be to make this shit up?
just because it didnt happen to you doesnt mean its not happening. windows update not only bricks other systems, it often bricks windows too. every few weeks windows update literally uninstalls graphic drivers and replace them with windows update ones. there are literally tutorials on youtube how to disable this "feature". widows is that shit
>just because it didnt happen to you doesnt mean its not happening
If I have windows on the deck, and windows on the deck updates in the same way, then why the FRICK would it not also happen to me, if it happened at all? Am I magic?
im talking about ltsc on desktop
>Is it going to take up a lot of space in SSD?
Yes. Windows is a space hog to the point a lot of people boot Windows out of a high capacity microSD instead, or a sata/nvme enclosure to usb-c. Also Windows doesn't play nice with Linux bootloaders, installing it on the same SSD with SteamOS might brick the latter's installation.
>Can it customize and adjust the power settings like steamos can?
It can but it's much less convenient. In Steam Deck's default OS the power management menu can be brought up with a couple of button presses after boot.
Good choice. I love my deck. I travel a lot for work and privately so it's perfect.
I don't wanna be that forum guy but genuinely curious: why dualboot? Everything just werks on steamOS.
I'm just saving dual boots as the extra option in case there's any games that I wanted to play doesn't work on photon.
I already found 1 game that's an old game and had to run with dxwnd, and have music not playing issue.
Sounds too troublesome, and I have to bring another ssd with me all the time?
No thanks.
Have you tried Lutris? There is a fix for that. I currently dont have my deck with me but after install you can just hit "configure" and open winecfg, go to the "Libraries" tab and set dsound to "Builtin."
What was the game btw?
I haven't even buy SteamDeck yet.
I'm just getting the information from photondb.
This is the game.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2059810/Richman_4/
Alright. I installed plenty of old games on mine. From actual CDs I still have or from GOG using Lutris. Amazing software. I even managed to get games running through it while the steam version wouldn't work.
Sounds promising.
Thanks anon. For taking your time.
If possible, I don't want to dual boot either, I don't care about anything on the windows aside of just running games.
It was an error, I meant to say SD card. You can just boot from that on the rare occasion when windows is needed.
wouldn't it take a long ass time to boot windows up? Like when we have to wait for a few minutes back then using HDD
You're really better off just buying an SSD and putting windows on that and then swapping when you want it
Are you dense? Rather install windows to the SD card, your solution sounds batshit crazy
I hate that I am so much a coomer I look at this picture and think pornographic thoughts. Like why.
>so extremely badly as frick
no exclusives
Nice bump, almost let the thread die there
you welcome
Tell me a reason why I should pick it over ally?
>trackpads
>same battery with the steam deck, less efficient that the deck in low power modes, therefore worse battery life than the Steam Deck whose battery life is already kinda shit
>windows moronation not worth the compatibility in most cases. steamOS is plug and play nicely integrated with steam and more polished. steam deck can already run windows if that's such an issue
>base steam deck with a 1TB 2230 ssd (400+80 bucks) costs less than base Rog Ally (600 bucks)
>valve committed to providing updates that consistently bring significant performance improvements and new features, excellent customer support, asus might give up the device after half a year, has a bad reputation with customer support
>Trackpads
the post literally ends right there. If you've never played something on deck you won't understand the sheer bliss you get by having those. Touch menus, mouse movement and remappability are insane on those. I won't start a console war since they are both PCs, but Rog Ally really isn't an option.
Is this thread full of actual chink/pajeetbots or is it real people doing a bit?
cleveland steambox good dog toy or door stopper would also make for good trash in trash receptacle
Installed like 20 half life 1 mods on my deck last night from a /vr/ recommendation thread and they run great, can't wait to use them to learn gyro
I add gyro to so many games man. Even RTS like Ghost Master. Binding middle mouse button to touching of the right stick and also enabling gyro with it makes for amazing camera movement.
Oh that's a great idea, thanks for that. I was going to try an RTS setup soon, been mulling over it in my head. So far I was thinking this:
Left analog stick - Camera movement
Left trackpad - Bound to minimap area and left-click on touch, meaning it moves the map around as you want
L1/R1 - Left/right click (not sure which side is which)
L2 and R2 - Ctrl and Shift for managing control groups
D-pad - Numbers 1-4 for managing and selecting control groups
Face buttons - Movement commands like attack move, patrol, etc
Right analog stick - Radial menu for selecting unit commands like spells. This will be easier on games where it's standardised to always use QWER or similar, but could be done for any game with tinkering.
Right trackpad - mouse movement
This leaves all four back buttons free for whatever unique stuff each game has, such as diplomacy/research menus and such.
You're welcome. It works really well. You can also invert individual gyro axes if something feels unnatural. I recommend you learn about mode shifts and changing action sets while holding down a key. I have an amazing profile for Dungeon Keeper 2 you might wanna look into to give you an idea. It is called "Dungeon Keeper 2 - Perfect Layout" or something. Just search for "Dungeon Keeper 2" in the community on some game.
Great, thanks, I will check that. I've not used mode shifts or actions sets yet, purely radial and touch menus.
Last tip for touch menus. ALWAYS go to the options of the menu and set the trigger type to "Touch release", otherwise you'll get very different outcomes to what youre actually trying to do
For the DK2 profile I set touching the stick to hold down X on keyboard and then made the stick a mouse and set the mouse movement speed extremely low, you can really do a lot to make everything work nicely
I also usually go for right stick for camera movement, just because it is more intuitive. You could then use the left stick for a radial menu.
This makes sense now that I think about it, although I am a bit concerned about using the right hand for literally everything at once. Still, I guess that's how RTS works with a mouse anyway.
Left stick should either be a radial menu or WASD for RTS imho
it got superceded by better hardware. Like all PCs. Might as well ask why my 2070 laptop isn't the best anymore
im still fully convinced Ganker hates every game, every console, and themselves.
Ganker is the spoiled child that's throwing tantrum for attentions.
They don't even hate the thing, they just want attentions so badly because they didn't interact with anybody at all for days, weeks, months or even years.
It's literally just a single seething moron making these threads. Probably a south american ape, because they're the only ones who care about console or platform wars in 2023 still.
He's Indian. There's a picture floating around of his preddit posts but I didn't save it.
The problem with Ganker is that the people who hate something or just want to shitpost can do it all day like morons and never have to regard any opinion to the contrary. Of the people who actually like the thing a portion of them will post so autistically that you can't tell it from trolling, another portion will just blandly say they liked it, and the rest will focus only on the shit they don't like about it either because they're so brainwashed by "both sides" bullshittery that they must find fault in everything or because they actually found faults and want them fixed and come here to scream into the void.
This makes it seem like everyone hates everything because every post is negative.
4chins is the only place where I can be honest without consequences and the catalogue is so inundated with garbage, fanboys and shitposters I wouldn't normally ever interact with so it's real easy to be real honest about how shit it is and how stupid they are.
Yet it's still better than everywhere else and there are good threads and discussions to be had for those who can tune out all the bullshit.
It didn't flop people just hyped it up as something it wasn't. The deck was never made to compete with the Nintendo Switch it was made to compete with Handheld PCs. When you accept that reality it's the most successful device in it's circle.
>When you accept that reality it's the most successful device in it's circle.
tbh that's probably the GPD win 4 or the Max 2 or whatever. They sell VERY well in China and Japan, and those countries are far bigger on handhelds than western countries.
Why does the deck attract so many schizos?
these threads are made by shills that need to always bring awareness to the steam deck in some shape or form. that would explain why there's three threads about it right now even though the device is so outdated. just get the rog ally instead
How troublesome it is to transfer data in one SSD to another?
I'm thinking if I should buy a SSD before I get the deck or after.
Data is easy. Do you also want to copy the OS?
Yes, I don't think steamdeck can have 2 ssd at the same time, can it?
It can't. In that case you need to put both SSDs in a different computer and use something like clonezilla.
Why would I buy a stupid steam deck if most games are incompatible on it, it needs Windows for a decent gaming experience and cannot be connected to a second screen or controller
It's not fricking sold anywhere but the USA because valve is always incompetent and a waste of potential. Look at half life 3.
gamers don't go outside