Now that gaming is pratically better on linux, what is stopping normies from migrating? I don't believe there is that many designers needing to use Photoshop.
Now that gaming is pratically better on linux, what is stopping normies from migrating?
Now that gaming is pratically better on linux, what is stopping normies from migrating? I don't believe there is that many designers needing to use Photoshop.
For the most part it's going to depend on how good the Steam Deck 2 will be and more importantly if Valve deems spending R&D money on steamOS long-term. Handheld PCs are getting somewhat close to the phablet formfactor so it's possible that what we call "smartphones" today will become real desktop PC replacements for 90% of the human population soon.
The suspend/resume and power controls that are built in is the real secret sauce for the steam deck, and I doubt they would trust windows to not break it.
why is that a webm
>garbage thread
>that namegay shows up
What a surprise
newbies
>what is stopping normies from migrating?
The fact that Linux is shit
>BUT IF WE JUST HAD [X software suite] ON LINUX EVERYONE WOULD SWITCH OVER!
This was always a cope. The vast majority of people don't need anything more than a web browser and a file manager.
90% of desktop computer users could install Troonix right now and would get along fine. But they don't because it would be an inferior experience.
>people can do
>its literally better
>nah it's worse trust me bro
Ok who is spreading this moronic propaganda?
Compared to winblows 11, linux is actually showing BETTER performance on some games. This is probably because of all the extra beefy spyware/adware/wokeware micro shaft is adding that wasn't present on windows 10 but still you have to admit this is pretty fricking impressive. Basically there's this nasty frame stuttering problem on windows 11 right now that's causing alot of gaymers to "upgrade" back to windows 10, look it up. I'm honestly worried about how much they'll gimp/frick up LTSC 2024. SteamOS honestly doesn't seem that bad as far as linux distros go, I might upgrade to that instead tbh senpai.
To be fair linux was pretty dogshit until valve stepped in and poured R&D into proton. But yeah holy shit any linux distro running proton 8.0 is pretty kino now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Valve-Proton-8.0-5
t. LTSChad
built for GPL
>linux is actually showing BETTER performance on some games
>some
also
>using Steam Deck as a comparison
The steam dick is a good reference point as far as how much OS spyware bogs down things and probably one of the most budget gay men computer on the planet. At some point this thing is going to become the ultra-poorgay computer option for everyone as they flood the used market for like $200 once more handheld PCs show up.
https://www.destructoid.com/lenovo-is-reportedly-making-its-own-handheld-gaming-pc/
https://www.gizchina.com/2024/01/11/msi-claw-new-gaming-handheld-pc-arrives-with-an-intel-core-ultra-chip/
On a related note it would be really cash money if AMD would stop bathing in enterprise money and develop a 6W Zen 4 APU for fanless handheld PCs. It fricking blows that we have to settle for inferior ARM toy trash for something that we put in our pocket.
>Now that gaming is pratically better on linux
It really isn’t
>what is stopping normies from migrating?
The fact that a server OS that is mostly held together by duct tape and might break at any point for no real reason is not a good daily driver.
>Compared to winblows 11, linux is actually showing BETTER performance on some games.
Nice cherrypicking. And the 99% of other games where Windows 11 is actually more performant get conveniently swept under the rug.
TLDR; the Linux space is still incredibly delusional about their OS
why do I see so many people bring wireless mic with them to a cafe when you can
1) use the (objectively best) trackpad
or
2) use hotkeys with a tool like hammerspoon to manage a window manager and launch/script/url shortcuts, as well as HomeRow (vim easy motions but systemwide) to click on shit if you argue you have a shoulder injury
>linux users
>calling other peasants
lol lmao even
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Just don't play slop? Very simple solution.
>dogshit AAA call of duty slop
Linux won
AMD is a better choice on Linux
If you think Destiny 2 is worth any thinking human's time, you should consider using an iPad instead of a real computer.
>Linux savings you from gacha trash and eSport homosexualry.
Sounds like a win to me.
I genuinely don't know anyone who plays any of these Kek. Shills get dumber every year.
No game on that list deserves attention.
I didn't know anyone on this entire website played shit like that.
>>>/vg/
These few games are the only ones that don't work and half of them are nothingburgers, everything else just works.
and linux users cope saying
>you dont actually need to play those games!!!
like i hate that hokai impact shit as much as the other guy, but thats not excuse, plus mw2 was really fun, stfu (mw3 is trash but thats another story)
honkai and genshin are playable though if you know where to look 😉
>Look at these Windows Exclusive™ games, guys!!
>goyslop with kernel level antiche... Oh, sorry, spyware rootkit.
Is that supposed to be impressive when devs of those """games""" go out of their way to disable Linux support? (It's literally a flick of a button i n rootkits like EAC)
Isn't maplestory 2 shut down?
I'm about to build a new PC. Is Nvidia or AMD more stable when I need to use steam's proton for Windows only games on Ubuntu?
been using a 2060 and now a 3060 running Manjaro, babby Arch, not had any issues so far with Nvidia except for it not liking my weird 3 monitor setup
im using nvidia and have no issues besides it not waking up from sleep (black screen) any tips? otherwise everything works 'fine' since im on x11
FOSS driver might work with sleep, otherwise just disable sleep altogether.
You can kind of guess how a proprietary driver can't be fixed to enable sleep support from graphics cards side.
IF you f'd something by trying a bunch of weird commands you found online, easiest fix is a quick reinstall while keeping home folder and maybe deleting xorg.conf.
Music production, video editing, Microsoft office, and the fact that gaming is not better in Linux. No normie is going to go to an inferior OS when they're familiar with windows
Music production is why I still have windows 10 on one of my pcs. Real time monitoring just does not work on linux
I use Linux for audio, when was the last time you played with it? I'm on fedora, you just change two config files and install real-time privileges and low latency audio works perfectly.
Yabridge works great for me (mainly use arturia and spitfire)
You can use Reaper, Bitwig, Waveform or Ardour/Mixbus natively
which is why audio is dogshit on android too. why the frick is the Linux kernel so trash at real time stuff. does even NT do better in that regard?
Wangblows is lowest common denominator tech. Linux development will always be mostly defined by things that people find useful and tutorializing your software for literal, unironic toddlers will never be considered useful by 99.9% of the userbase. And naturally every time that the lowest common denominator is chased further down that rabbit hole, there comes into being a NEW lowest common denominator who drinks even more industrial solvent than the last one and people will actually adjust their expectations for how easy software should be to match this paste-eating standard.
Ads and media featuring computers will practically teach a person how to use lowest common denominator tech now, Linux just can't compete with the passive consumption of constant ads.
It is ultimately not that difficult to use Linux and it just keeps getting easier and better, but normies will never migrate because that would mean making slightly more conscious choices to figure out what they actually want and what would be necessary to get there. A normalgay would be handed a laptop running Ubuntu with GNOME and assume all Linux is shit, that laptop would be returned or go to a landfill.
>by things that people find useful
diddling around in a terminal emulator and ricing your desktop are not things people find useful
but trannies find customizing their OS and body useful
My friends would make fun of me for playing any of those games, and they would be right to do so. The new COD isn't even good by COD standards.
>Now that gaming is pratically better on linux
Until I can install games without wasting hours tweaking everything, Windows will forever be the OS for games.
>install games without wasting hours tweaking everything
This isn't even an option on Windows. Most PC games are buggy messes.
You mean most of new releases done by shitty studios porting PS5 games to PC?
I played a metric frickton of games on PC on Windows and I don't usually have to do anything more than use an installer or do that through Steam. If I have to frick around with PC releases is because I'm playing a bethesda or piranha bytes game, or because I want to modify something that's just not the usual stuff (like removing a fps cap or increasing the FoV which nowadays aren't usually a problem anymore). GoG releases are stupidly simple.
On linux the first thing that comes to mind is "I need a launcher". Because you aren't using plain WINE with one prefix for everything. Proton sometimes works, but if you have non-Steam games it's still just a pain to deal with half of em. I'll be honest, you can post Bald's gate 3 and Dark Souls IIII all the times you want, but a random obscure 2011 VN will still struggle to work properly in there. Anticheat wienerblocking linux is nothing compared to the amount of games I found not to be just running right away because they didn't use a common engine or the right codecs or because they weren't just current day AAA or basic b***h indie releases.
But besides all that gaymen means you may have funny displays. You have 2 monitors with VRR and HDR and all this nonsense. How long did it take for Linux to support that? I'm not aware of any current solution (for AMD users at least) that gets xorg to work with VRR enabled on one monitor out of 2 plugged and connected. Wayland figures this one out but drag and drop sometimes and mousewheel scroll speed are just too fricking hard I guess. You're switching between shit and vomit. For the longest time Windows had some issues with multimonitor displays with different refresh rates but it got over that a good while ago. I think before they can support the latest slop at 7% more FPS they should really focus on getting a decent fricking display server.
It's click and play now, haven't you heard of Steam Deck?
as the proud owner if a steam deck, it is not click and play lmao
I love how you people can’t see how much of a hopeless clown show Linux gaming is. Because you people don’t game because your student Thinkpad doesn’t have the power for it anyway so your “gaming” is Dwarf Fortress or something.
Photoshop shit's still important. Ditto with Autodesk's 3D apps.
But my own pet peeve's more of an UIX side thing + kinda uneven compatibility / interaction with many apps. Things like being unable to drag & drop files from one app into another works half the time, half the time doesn't. I also don't get why disks and drives still can't just auto-mount in 2024, especially if they're internal ones.
>Autodesk
The most abhorrent DRM I have ever had to deal with.
You think Denuvo is bad? Try running a legal copy of Autodesk.
I had a properly paid-for student license and it was a fricking mess.
Will try to avoid at all cost during professional work.
wait until you try the Giga cancer that is SolidWorks and their 3Dexperience AIDS . it's so mind bogglingly bad and non sensical that I'm now just a thankful little cuck to Autodesk whenever I use their stuff instead.
The entire 3dexperience cloud solidworks (the name changes every year too) genuinely feels like a schizophrenic piece of software(s), I've never really seen anything quite like it. it's insane even when compared your typical eurotrash corporation bloatmaxxed software disaster, and there's no more local desktop only SolidWorks either now.
I'm fortunately a CS graduate that mostly has to deal with free-as-in-freedom software in his day-to-day job.
The encounter with Autodesk was in my minor, and I hated every single second of it.
I refuse to believe, the late John Walker stood behind the absolute state his software was in more recently.
Linux just does not work.
games don't just work.
programs don't just work.
the system doesn't just work.
and for small things that don't work on windows there are simple and plentiful solutions. for Linux you have to spend all day figuring out why this component of that distro doesn't work with this library of that game from this platform to fricking make it run.
on windows I just doubleclick.
The same thing that always stopped them: their own intelligence.
We've been shitclowning windows since 8.1 btw
Kernel anti cheat enforcement on super popular normie shit like league of legends and valorant.
Linux still doesn't seem to have gotten its shit together in terms of a solid, stable desktop stack that works day 1 100% guaranteed with any and all graphics cards. Most specifically the Linuxgays seem to be undergoing some moronation whirlwind regarding transitioning from X11 to Wayland and the varied and various compatibility issues this causes. Seeing how quickly this shit usually resolves in the desktop Linux world I'd expect it to take like another decade until everything is settled and solid.
>I'd expect it to take like another decade until everything is settled and solid
nah you just know they'll throw shit at each other regarding something else
considering the number of corporations involved with linux development it's impossible not to have a shitflinging contest, everyone wants a piece of linux
wingays don't seem to understand it's not just volunteers donating (or wasting) their time with linux development, it's massive corporations behind it from across all nationalities throwing shit at each other and re-purposing linux for their own needs
Most of the corporate involvement doesn't care about the desktop it seems. It's all kernel level and backend stuff. Except those handful of entities who want a divorce from commercial software in their office settings. Like China or those municipal regions in Europe that try to embrace Linux for their workers. But it doesn't seem to last even for them.
Gaming is only better on Linux when people actually do work beyond clicking an installed icon on the desktop. People, especially the low iq americans on this board are either are lazy or are paid by israelites to make things seem harder than they are.
this isn't true, installing games on steam (even windows/proton ones) is literally the exact same. At most you just enable proton by default.
OK, how do you pirate games on Linux? how do you download gog games from pirated got games website and install it? no one puts Linux games on torrents.
notice I said STEAM games which is how 99% of non third worlders get their games.
as for pirating just install lutris and run the first "<game> lutris" script that shows up on google (it's a one click from the browser thing)
>buying games
what kind of newbie are you
>install lutris and run the first "<game> lutris" script that shows up on google (it's a one click from the browser thing)
Wow so easy, just run random unknown scripts from reddit threads
or I can just doubleclick an exe from rutracker or gog-games and have my game ready in 10 seconds
>want to play some FTL or Banished game to pass the time while I wait for a meeting
>FTL can't do full screen mode and can't work with the HD fix on *nix
>banished just runs the GPU at stupid high clocks for no reason
>look for a fix
>nothing
T-thank you linux...
>no one puts Linux games on torrents.
rutracker would like to have a word with you
if you can't find what you want it's most likely a skill issue. tons of other games also work by just adding the .exe as a non-Steam game on Steam and just running it with Proton that way. lots of non-games programs also work that way kek
steam has its own windows emulator??
Yes.
It's a fork of wine - but it actually works. Honestly, my gaming experience on linux has been pretty smooth when using Proton.
while most games run on Linux, most popular games don't. League barely works and is bound to stop soon due to them adding the valorant anti cheat, and games like r6, valorant, cod and battlefield games released in the last 5 years all don't work
>want to play a game when it comes out
>gotta wait even longer for proper fixes to come out
>decide to go do something using software for work
>doesn't work quite right
>go ask community about it
>WHY ARE YOU USING SHIT SOFTWARE DON'T USE THAT USE (random project that doesn't do most what you want but is "free")
https://www.protondb.com/app/1966720
came out in October 23, 2023 btw
I don't play that game?
that's on you. I don't have a fix for that
So why the frick did you reply to me then?
I don't have a crystal ball
Lots of normie-popular games like Rust, Valorant, stuff like that require anticheat, plus normies are too moronic to use linux anyways.
Normies shouldn't use computers in the first place. macOS and Windows were a mistake that dumbed down computers just so low IQ mongoloids could use them too.
>normies
I like to use "normies" for guaranteed replies. It's the Ganker equivalent of saying "latinx" in a brown neighborhood.
>Switch to Linux
>Half the programs I use every day suddenly have bugs that every other user swears doesn't happen
This.
>bored during covid because we are on a no infrastructure changes after getting people to WFH
>have 3040m optiplex so decide to say frick it install ubuntu
>video meet software lags to hell or straight up doesn't run
>can't use Office properly even if it "werks fer me" so have to run it in VMware workstation or "use the web app"
>citrix keeps fricking up on workspace app mainly audio/video
>this fricks up the ability to connect to VPN for no real reason that I could find
>try troubleshooting off and on
>all help for the apps I need to run daily is "lol just use libreoffice" or "lmao you don't need cisco anyconnect" or "idk I just use my phone for webex xD"
>give up
>reinstall windows 10
>shit just werks
you should tell Microsoft, citrix, Cisco and your vpn program to fix their shit
Troonix le never wrong
>Switches to linux
>complains their dogshit windows apps no longer just werks
The point of switching is that you dont need to use that botnet trash lmao
Firefox is botnet trash? What do you use?
...you're having issues running firefox on linux?
Yes, when I scroll it stutters in a way that doesn't happen in chromium. Especially if I have a window with YouTube open.
This has never happened to me on Windows in any browser
Didn't valve swear up and down proton would be totally open source? Why does every game that uses it still need to run through steam?
The amount of it that is open source and documented is basically enough for anyone to port their games over and do some decent optimization troubleshooting on it. The thing is most devs just don't give enough of a shit to develop for it compared to a +90% user base install of windows
My brother in Christ I'm just talking about Firefox and Discord
Both scroll and stutter like shit in KDE Plasma on Arch
>Did you check the box for hardware accelerated-
Yes
>Did you install the latest Nvidia-
Yes
You got BTFO in the Ganker thread too. Nobody cares about linux, only poos like you, do.
You realize macOS is based on freebsd right?
And you realize that Apple is therefore literally the only company who managed to make Unix usable outside of the server space?
Just wait until something breaks. Good luck getting them to fix it under warranty.
>Now that gaming is pratically better on linux
If people get a Steam Deck and use the laptop mode and then learn shell, they MIGHT switch to arch. Otherwise don't hold your breath. A modern linux system is basically unusable without learning shell.
ew imagine gaming in 2024
Yeah, yeah, so you can now play games on Linux. Great.
Except it will still be through Steam and other online licensing shitholes like it. Sorry, but no sale.
Proton is literally a Windows emulator. Gaming will never be better on Linux.
>Now that Linux is the better desktop OS, what is stopping nomries from migrating?
t. you every year for over two decades
anticheat. sucks that to game on linux I need 2 gpus, have to use libvirt passthrough, and run anti-VM detection scripts. easier to dual boot into windows.
>install Linux
>nvidia
>random console shit every time boot, doesn't happen with Intel
>Chromium based apps don't work w/ hardware acceleration
>RIP
Game dev here. Unfortunately Photoshop is still a major component of my workflow. Dying to switch to Plasma 6 but I need a viable solution first. Anyone tried Affinity Photo recently on Linux? I know there was some progress recently with WINE...
Driver support mostly.
jej at all the consoomers and "productive" people
grow up and get a real job, homosexuals. if you need ms slop or gaymes you are the lowest of low and should consider suicide.
>what is stopping normies from migrating
it's just a fricking hassle and people will find any nitpick to just ignore it, like i do, i just want my stuff to just work
Steam Deck works because it's tightly curated for the hardware. I would totally recommend it to receptive normies as a full-ass PC.
It's really impressive what Linux gaming has become.
We went from "linux has no games" to "linux has no kernel rootkit"
What I don't get it is why would you took a longer path just to play same games intended to run on Windows.