nah when you hit your 30s you just stop giving a frick about what everyone thinks, I would even say its the age when you actually start to enjoy life, not being constricted by society's expectation by sheer indifference
t. 35 oldgay, to every 20s guy reading this my life tip is to stop giving a damn, society will ALWAYS say you are in the wrong, so stop trying to mold yourself to something you arent, life is too short to waste it on impossible expectations, and too long to fake your happiness
look man, if you are working and contributing to society, that being from flipping burgers or practicing neurosurgery, you are entitled to your own life, you want to watch animes and read mangas in your free time? go for it, you want to work out at the gym and eat protein ice cream for meal and dinner? go for it champ, your life its your own, nobody but you should have the las word reagarding how you want to live
That's because he mistakes his apathy for laziness. Dojima is kind of idiot. He's still chasing the guy who ran over his wife. In a country of tens of millions.
Apathy is death. >Apathy is death.
Apathy is death. >Apathy is death.
Apathy is death.
Based anon, thank you.
Just stop caring, bros. It's all you gotta do.
Disregard pointless bullshit, disregard what other people say about you, disregard anything that does not serve you. Focus on the moment, focus only on being the best version of you you can be right now and doing what is good for yourself and the people you care about.
Anon he tried to sexually assault two women and then murdered them. He was a dumb homosexual who took his comfy life as a cop in the boonies for granted because he thought he was special.
> tried to sexually assault someone > quite literally a lie
Is it just me or everytime someone tries to prove Adachi wrong in these threads is 99% going to spit some bullshit that didn't even happen in game? Almost as if most persona fans don't play their games or something...
I don't deny it, but it's very important to remember that he was literally set up by fricking GOD herself to be pushed to actually kill someone (the first kill wasn't even intentional)
>but it's very important to remember that he was literally set up by fricking GOD herself
Did you think Ameno Sagiri being a giant eye ball was just a coincidence?
Izanami is merely an observer.
He didn't make her choose, he pushed her in because her rejection reminded him about being 'not good enough', this was essentially the reason he sperged out.
And even so, that'll be just assault, and not sexual assault.
>he tried to sexually assault two women and then murdered them
He didn't murder the TV lady, at most it would qualify as accidental manslaughter. Imagine a chef not knowing that a client is alergic to seafood and he puts it in,the client didn't knew, nobody told him, nobody knew that would happen.
The second one is attempted murder though he wasn't sure that she would die if she was thrown in the TV but he knew it was a possibility and still did it anyway.
I mean, you can make a moral case against it as much as you like, but if life truly is unfair and it's every man for himself, what's wrong with killing those who are better off than you?
You're just right the first time, but as you get older you realized what a moron you were as a teen so you overcorrect and think the opposite. Then you truly mature later and realize "oh, I was right the entire time"
that only happens when you fail in life, then you will be that guy that got stuck into relieving his teen glory years, meanwhile everybody moved on and are living happy lives
The game doesn't imply that he's bad by nature. In fact he's a mirror of the protagonist. Both were moved from the city to the countryside without wanting it, both start as lonely and introverted with average looks, both live in a relatively similar environment. The difference is that while Adachi took it as a punishment, Y(o)u took it an opportunity and succeeded unlike him. Y(o)u reached out to the truth while he didn't
When he arrived in Inaba he didn't know anyone, including his own uncle and cousin. You choose his personality ig, but in the og anime he's initally calm, reserved and polite. He only becomes the meme gigachad everyone knows afterwards through character development (the Golden anime is implied to be the equivalent of a NG+)
Yu starts out the game with average in all stats, including Understanding or Bravery. Adachi is most certainly below average in most aspects. Funnily enough Makoto started out with negative stats in P3. I see no point in pretending that Yu started out in the same place as Adachi, not to mention he's much younger.
>Adachi took it as a punishment
Afaik he actually got punished by his superiors that's why he ended up in countryside, i think p5 mc is comparable to him
>both start as lonely and introverted with average looks >CHAD ZIODYNEwiener >average
Day one, day fricking one, Chie and Yukiko are asking to sit next to you.
I was talking about this with a friend but a lot of people don't get Adachi because the internet meme'd 2 images that weren't in the game. "I did it for the lulz" and "bitches and prostitutes", one was a motivation poster edit and the other was from a porn doujin. His backstory is he was an average student who followed his parent's instructions to the letter, just get good grades even if he wasn't a talented person. He joined the police academy and was the top of the class, but one mistake got him kicked from the city to the boonies and he hated everything about it.
The gas station attendant unlocked his Persona powers, he was freaked out but didn't do much, then he started watching the Midnight Channel after hearing the rumors he'll find his true love. He saw the woman who "belonged to him" and by struck of luck he was assigned her protective duty, but he was enraged she was seeing another man (Namatame) and felt betrayed. Adachi never thought he killed her until seeing her corpse, you see when he vomits off-screen and your uncle berates him for being a pussy.
The second victim was the high school girl who happened on the corpse of the first victim. On paper he says he called her down the station for an interview to cover his tracks, but in reality its heavily implied Adachi saw her on the Midnight Channel and thought he found for real his soulmate. In the flashback you see Adachi really riled up and he mentions how he isn't good enough for her unlike Namatame, because from his point of view Adachi is losing all his soulmates to him. Now that we know Adachi has it out for Namatame and that he can kill people by throwing them into the TV, what happened in the rest of the game? He encouraged Nametame to keep saving people because he wanted to pin his crimes on him, not because he wanted to cover the world in shadows.
There's only one bad ending where people get turned into shadows, in the rest of the bad endings the town remains foggy. When Adachi says he did things for boredom and because he could, he's lying. He's already under the possession of the fog God when you corner him. Every action in the game contradicts what possessed Adachi says before his boss fight. He says he wanted you and Namatame to keep the game of cat and mouse forever, but in every insistence that you save a victim you get a cutscene of the central market where a foggy man curses that no body was found. In addition when you catch the copycat murderer, Adachi is the only person who says the true killer is still out there casually, because he really wants Namatame to get caught. When Naoto presents the evidence that pins it to Namatame, Adachi doesn't say another culprit is out there. And lastly Adachi sent the threatening letters to your home because he wants Namatame to actually get someone killed. He knows you're stopping Namatame and wants this cat and mouse game to end. All of his actions say he wants to remain in society and wants to avoid being called a murderer.
He didn't really do it for the lulz like he's popularity depicted, he just wanted to get away with his two murders and wanted Namatame to be his fall guy out of deep resentment. That's it, that's Adachi.
>On paper he says he called her down the station for an interview to cover his tracks, but in reality its heavily implied Adachi saw her on the Midnight Channel
It's because he saw Nametame talking to her.
When she rejected him, he got angry because it seemed like he was worthless if a creepy dude like Nametame can bag two hotties.
>moron thinks he's special and that life 'owes' him >spent his college time studying instead of socializing and making bonds with his future co-workers >gets assigned to the boonies even though his whole motivation to be a cop was 'gun cool'
I can see why the utter failures and losers here think he was 'right' lmao
if he was 'special' then he should've had no problem making friends AND passing his classes, as normal people do
He was only special in the way he should've worn a helmet around the house.
moron
He goes to Dojima's sometimes. He could have befriended the old lady that took interest in him. He could have befriended a lot of people but he chose to be OH THEY'RE ALL SO ANNOYING.
>He could have befriended the old lady that took interest in him.
You mean the one that annoys him and only makes him food he doesn't like because her son with the same name likes it that way? >lot of people
Name one outside of the old lady. No, the high school protagonist and his cousin don't count.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Adachi didn't communicate with her, he just dodged her and dumped her Nimino in the sink and complained to Yu about her.
The town isn't a bustling metropolis, but a small town where everyone seems to know each other. Adachi could have been apart of that.
5 months ago
Anonymous
No he couldn't have. You don't understand him.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Those who haven't been in the same place as Adachi can't understand him.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Adachi didn't communicate with her
Why would he? >Adachi could have been a part of that
A part of what? It seems to just be old people, their kids and out-of-towners.
Normalgays cannot understand Adachi because they are mindless animals that coasted through life without needing to try at all. They see that Adachi failed despite doing his best and decide that he simply didn't try hard enough or b himself.
>failed despite doing his best
lol > decide that he simply didn't try hard enough
imagine being SO moronic that fricking PERSONA 4 is beyond your understanding. IMAGINE
> failed despite doing his best
Is literally a fact? He was THE best in his class (both physically and in terms of subjects) during his studying years, was respectful and had more or so good social skills despite being forced into homeschooling by his parents (says so in the game), he was an elite detective in TOKYO, one trivial mistake and he was jumped by his colleagues and was forced to work in a middle of nowhere.
Do you even comprehend just how fricked it was to him losing an elite position like that? No you don't, you didn't played the game.
I agree with you. Most people did not play the game and watched the anime or got their entire lore from meme images. Persona 4 is far from my favorite game in the franchise but Adachi is a walking contradiction of a character that you have to step back and examine before you get fooled. I bet most people here don't even know there's an accomplice ending added to P4 Golden.
Normalgays will never admit someone can do their best and still end up fricked because it would shake their fundamental belief in their own good personality. They must think life is fair and they got where they did because they are such good people. If they admit you can fail despite your best effort they have to admit they just got lucky and were born with something others did not. And that is unbearable for them.
Plenty of people curse their hard work because it amounts to nothing. However, this isn't the only case for Adachi. He also screws up, is lazy, likes to toy with people, and never grows socially. Hard work alone never guarantees success, otherwise, all those warehouse workers for wal-mart would be set for life.
>Because he feels entitled to success automatically.
Success? What do you determine to be success? Adachi had something he spent his entire life working towards and lost it for seemingly bullshit reasons. The way he sees it, he has no future anyway, so what does it matter if he decides to act out. The only reason this started is because he realized he could throw someone inside a TV. Don't tell me you couldn't be driven to do something similar if you were in the same place as him.
5 months ago
Anonymous
He didn't lose it for bullshit reasons. It's bullshit to him because he could never mess up. He's infallible in his eyes. He even can't cope with losing his own boss fight. He can't cope with being found out as the villain. Adachi can't cope that he's not the hot shit that he is in his mind.
5 months ago
Anonymous
We don't know what the mistake is, but since none of the other cops seem to care about it, it probably wasn't that big of a frickup.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Because he portrays himself as a silly incompetent goofball to them. For instance, you really think he had to puke at the crime scene? Or that he is getting distracted? He's fricking around.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He's fricking around.
By making himself vomit? I mean, maybe.
5 months ago
Anonymous
For sure. He's not "accidentally" leaking information about the case, he's giving you that info on purpose. He's not missing things about the case, he knows the cases. He's just seeing where all this goes. Because it entertains him. He likes watching everyone wriggle.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What does that have to do with making yourself vomit on purpose?
5 months ago
Anonymous
To me it seems like part of the goof act. He "can't handle" the situation and has to rely on Dojima, how he couldn't possibly be a person who did the crimes. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit here.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Have you ever made yourself puke on purpose, anon?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yea it's my go to to get out of situations since school
5 months ago
Anonymous
>part of the goof act
It's not. He's too apathetic to do his job correctly since he got to Inaba.
The vomit wasn't fake because he wasn't aware that the TV kills.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That may be the more likely situation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>oh shit that b***h is actually dead i think im gonna hurl >wait but that other chick i threw in a few nights ago >welp time to go on lunch break
based
5 months ago
Anonymous
You do not get reassigned to an out of the way post because you made "one little mistake." You get shunted out to the boonies because you fricked up badly enough that they want to get rid of you, but privately enough that firing you might bring attention to the frickup. If you can't figure out, from Adachi's actions, what his "mistake" was then you might just be illiterate.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That seems to be your assumption, anon. I doubt you have any idea how the Japanese metropolitan police circa mid-late 2000s worked.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I will admit, I don't know that. What I do know is what Adachi tried to do both times we saw him alone and at an advantage with a female witness.
This argument would be more palatable to me if it wasn’t the same argument libs make to shit on the accomplishments of white people, or commies use to shit on the middle class, or rad feminists use to shit on men etc etc. obviously some are beyond hope but that’s a sharp minority and most people stand to gain at least a decent amount of satisfaction by doing the whole self improvement meme
>if it wasn’t the same argument libs make to shit on the accomplishments of white people
Except this is precisely what happens when what anon described occurs. When normalgays realize life isn't fair they do shit like that.
Ding ding ding. Survivorship bias is a curse upon the human race.
This argument would be more palatable to me if it wasn’t the same argument libs make to shit on the accomplishments of white people, or commies use to shit on the middle class, or rad feminists use to shit on men etc etc. obviously some are beyond hope but that’s a sharp minority and most people stand to gain at least a decent amount of satisfaction by doing the whole self improvement meme
>woaaahhhh im so deatched and meta duuuddde >what if nobody think but I
I’m actually pretty secure in today’s society. These threads and the paragraphs people write just morbidly interest me when I occasionally visit Ganker instead of good boards with mostly adjusted adults.
What keeps you waking up each day? Is being that detached not a net negative with the inconveniences of living?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>What keeps you waking up each day?
Inertia. A handful of things that interest me and I'd like to see through. That's basically it. >not a net negative
I never said it wasn't. It's just easier not to care when everything is going to shit.
Wait you didn’t answer any of the questions. Is this kind of talk about normies really any different from people b***hing about white prívelege?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Is this kind of talk about normies really any different from people b***hing about white prívelege?
Does it matter either way? Most white people are normies.
Nah I just have some nerd hobbies. I usually browse tg and fit, but I like to come to v because it’s full of ridiculous posts and I used to post here ten years ago when I was underage. I don’t think it’s a site for losers, I think the schizo threads about consoles are funny and nostalgic. Occasionally I see this tho and it reminds me of LULZ
Is it ever expanded upon what the mistake he made in Tokyo was? I always got the impression he undermines it and actually did something fricked up hence transferring him to the boonies
He mentions that it was something small, Dojima should know exactly what was that mistake, and considering he never really mentions it while nagging Adachi, it does seems like it was indeed a small one.
Adachi himself has no reason to lie about it either, he says that he doesn't care for sympathy from others, nor is he dumb enough to really have a massive blunder, opposite actually
I internalize it as Adachi being unsociable enough that people didn't want him around and they used one mistake to kick him from the city cops to the village of hicks. I like that it's never explained what Adacahi did other than than from his own admission it was a minor mistake. Could've been a clerical error for all we know lol.
that's a good point, dojima seems to like adachi despite knowing he fricked up, so it couldn't have been that bad. Going to be honest, I thought he just snapped because a woman rejected him, but he's a lot deeper than that.
I've only played P3 for a few hours but now I want to play 4 because adachi sounds like a based chad. the PS2 version because it looks better and denuvo
Woah that's actually crazy how much of the atmosphere was sucked out of the remaster. I liked P4G but I always did think the fog was a little lacking visually, despite how much it is talked about.
PS2 had dedicated chip that could be used for certain post processing effects like fog. For most cases it was used as means to blur imagine or hide draw distance.
In case of P4 (and as example Okami) it was also part of story/atmosphere.
Yeah that's the thing with remasters, sometimes they overlook the small details that give the game its charm. Especially when it comes to fog. Silent Hill HD Collection is a great example.
PS2 had dedicated chip that could be used for certain post processing effects like fog. For most cases it was used as means to blur imagine or hide draw distance.
In case of P4 (and as example Okami) it was also part of story/atmosphere.
brighter colors for the PS Vita, they didn't care to change them when bringing it back to consoles.
Even if you're spoiled by Adachi you'll have fun keeping him under surveillance the whole game. How much of Adachi's personality is an act or his actual true demeanor? When you meet Shadows of people in Persona 4/5, they tell distorted versions of the truth. Every Palace owner of Persona 5 is hilariously tone deaf cartoon bad, but Persona 4 shadows were more nuance with their distortion of the truth. Although Persona owners can't have Shadows, Adachi is special in that the moment he stayed in the TV world (starting December when you accuse him), he's under the influence of Ameno-Sagiri (fog God eyeball). So every cutscene that happens in the TV world with Adachi has to be taken with a grain of salt, he's not 100% himself. >Does Adachi hate society?
No, because he would've merged the two worlds long before Namatame started his savior complex kidnappings. If living is too hard and it'd be easier to live as a Shadow, why didn't he commit to enacting the TV world and real world plan much sooner? Because he didn't want to and the fog God was possessing him in the TV world when had no other options. >Did Adachi want you and Namatame to keep kidnapping and saving forever?
No, in spite of what possessed Adachi says, no. And this is your first point of reference that boss fight Adachi is telling half-truths. He showed up on foggy nights to see Namatame produce a dead body and got mad the entire game. He sent threatening letters to your home because he wanted Namatame to get caught and have Adachi's murders be swept under the rug with that guy.
>he's not 100% himself.
He's more like 200% himself since that's what Ameno was doing, exaggerating his traits. >merged the two worlds long before
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he basically had no control over that, right? It was just something that was happening as a result of Ameno. Adachi just liked the idea, or was brainwashed into doing so, and was defending it.
My understanding of Adachi was that his philosophy is understandable and possibly even relatable for the player; but that the actions of Yu and the gang prove that making the best of a bad situation trumps wallowing in misery? Granted it's been a while since I played P4 but I thought Adachi just kind of accepted that he was shipped to the countryside and undermined; so he did nothing about it except internalise his anger and belittle those around him. Whereas Yu gets sent to the countryside and takes advantage of anything presented to him.
Example, Adachi is stalked by an old woman who thinks him a saint because he's police officer, and even though she offers to cook for him, he dodges her like the plague. Meanwhile Yu actively goes out of his way to befriend and comfort a widowing old woman, ultimately making both her and himself stronger people.
The word you're looking for is foil. Both Adachi and Player Avatar/Yu are foils, right down to the Arcana representing Adachi being Fool. One thing about Adachi and the city that's an unspoken good use of writing is his mistake. The way he reacts and talks about being tossed from the city, he doesn't deny he made a mistake and he doesn't keep it hidden from you, he brings it up himself. That alone tells you that his cognition of good/bad is there but he just doesn't accept the punishment he was given by being sent to the village of hicks. We can't infer much about what Adachi did that got him in trouble but it sounded enough to be career ending to be sent to Inaba and yet your uncle trusts him enough to have him around his home to babysit Nanako. So it sounds less and less like a violent confrontation and potentially something as benign as embarrassing the police in front of a judge with bad evidence or mislabeled something in an evidence bag.
>but that the actions of Yu and the gang prove that making the best of a bad situation trumps wallowing in misery?
What bad situation? None of them have experienced what Adachi has, they don't understand. They all have bright futures ahead of them, whether they know it or not. >the old woman
She was just using him as a replacement for her son who had the same name. Who the frick wants to befriend some old b***h anyway? >Yu goes out of his way
It's a pointless social link, but at least she's a bit interesting by cosplaying a ye olden goth.
>Mfw playing P4 for the first time >Vaguely remember Ganker threads with anons posting him >"Hmmmm I wonder who the killer could be?" >See his character icon for the first time in game >Immediately know it's him
It happens. But when i get spoiled like that i just focus on the journey instead of thinking too much about the end. its still fun seeing the characters figure ou the mistery.
It happens. But when i get spoiled like that i just focus on the journey instead of thinking too much about the end. its still fun seeing the characters figure ou the mistery.
You should leave this thread. Adachi isn't the only spoiler in Persona 4. We talked about fog boss and Adachi but there's a bigger honcho you haven't heard from. Because they are forgettable and have shitty motives compared to Persona 3's Nyx Avatar.
I was the same but it doesn't ruin the game for me at all because while he engineered the events of p4, he's technically not the culprit who sent people into the tv world
Surprisingly Ganker doesn't talk much about order of the events at all, they just talk about adachi's motives.
>Surprisingly Ganker doesn't talk much about order of the events at all, they just talk about adachi's motives.
Because that's the actually interesting part.
Because the person above Adachi is pointless. Gas attendant lady aka Izanami aka Marie's other half is a raging female, the equivalent of billions of men must die folklore Goddess.
>other half is a raging female, the equivalent of billions of men must die folklore Goddess.
Literally a woman moment personified. No wonder she works at a gas station.
As someone who played the game entirely blind, the game just sort of forces you to pick him because it's the only choice that sticks out as a sore thumb: He's not a party member or social link. At least he wasn't in the original.
The only other logical character would be Dojima.
Transfers like Adachi's don't happen for some little mistake. He fricked up big time and someone liked him enough to keep him on the police force instead of firing/jailing him. But he never wants to own up to that, it's always someone else's fault.
Adachi's himself says he made a mistake which caused him to be sent out there. Given how he acts in game, I really think he messeed up and couldn't deal with that. He always goes on about his hard work, but he fricking does jack shit.
>Given the obvious parallels between him and Yu,
Except Yu never made a mistake. He's also his uncle and legal caretaker for the time he was in Inaba.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Right. But Dojima is still yelling at Adachi to get to work and stuff. Yes, he tries to help him, but he's still a bit rough with him with head slaps and such in the anime
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's because he mistakes his apathy for laziness. Dojima is kind of idiot. He's still chasing the guy who ran over his wife. In a country of tens of millions.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yu is a Gary Stu and I don't know why anyone even likes him. He is just a male wish fulfillment fantasy.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>and I don't know why anyone even likes him
You answered your question twice: he's a power fantasy. You can pick the worst responses for almost every dialogue choice and nothing really changes. Everyone's still sucking your wiener.
His dynamic with Adachi in Golden is one of the highlights of his character. He actually feels somewhat vulnerable for a little bit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>first day in a new school >most beautiful (plus loaded) girl in school and her lesbian tomboy girlfriend spontaneously comes to Yu to accompany him home >it isn't a one off but representative of everyone around Yu
It's so telegraphed and obvious I can't be annoyed with it, so I understand everyone just liking him.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Chad Ziodynewiener doesn't get on my nerves because at no point are we expected to treat him like an actual character instead of a vessel for the player's wish fulfillment.
>He always goes on about his hard work, but he fricking does jack shit.
Maybe because he's seething that he got sent to a dead end village with no upward mobility in the police department because he made a mistake as a big city cop.
I wish he'd abandon his pointless bond with Dojima the useless drunken father and Yu the paragon of virtue and time management. Who is he carrying those bricks for? Yeah, he's stuck in prison now, but I'm sure some other crazy guy hell-bent on destroying the world or whatever will try to recruit him and give him a chance to escape.
There's no reason for him to follow society's "rules" just because he lost to some snot-nosed kids.
Adachi is the best thing that ever happened to the Persona series and what put the series on the map of the general populace. The developers couldn't handle the fact that people like him and so went out of their way to insult any supporters in the new ending where you can side with him. So Japanese developers aren't too different from western developers, they just aren't willing to publicly say this about their audience.
The inevitable P4 remake is going to introduce him to a new generation. It will be beautiful. They'll probably reincorporate the Yosuke homosexual romance too. lmao
>they just aren't willing to publicly say this about their audience.
It's a reversal of the west: the west hates its society and culture, while the east still reveres theirs to a fault.
The inevitable P4 remake is going to introduce him to a new generation. It will be beautiful. They'll probably reincorporate the Yosuke homosexual romance too. lmao
You're both women btw. The accomplice ending abruptly ends the game and exists as a new bad end route for you to enter NG+ quickly if you really fricked up a social link or wanted to date someone else. But you're both women who think there's a meta narrative and know you won't get female MC like P3 Portable you fujoshis can only think about homosexual Yosuke route.
>The accomplice ending abruptly ends the game and exists as a new bad end route for you to enter NG+ quickly if you really fricked up a social link or wanted to date someone else
Can't you just toss Namatame into the tv for that?
>The developers couldn't handle the fact that people like him
In what fricked up parallel reality do Adachigays live?
The developers heavily leaned into his popularity after he was extremely one note in the original P4. He got his own social link to expand his character with an additional bad ending, he got a focus episode in the two anime series and he was basically the second protagonist in P4AU.
What the frick did you expect Adachi ending to be like? The guy is a remorseless murderer, did you think he would just become Yu's friend the second he covered up for him?
It's clear that the developers think the audience misinterpreted Adachi and so went out of their way to give supporters a bad ending out of spite. It must be inconceivable to both the developers and people like you that people could relate to what Adachi was saying. You don't have empathy for other people.
Adachi is so deep in his misanthropy he doesn't even care that you're siding with him. He still uses you to achieve his goals and blackmails you. Not that it really matters, considering the whole town and eventually the world will be shadows before long anyway.
Even if you can relate to some of his arguments, the entire point of Adachi is that at the end of the day he tried to rape and killed an innocent woman, purposely murdered a student and then endangered the lives of the entire party for his own sick amusement. There's no scenario where he's not a bastard.
His ending is a natural progression of his character before his defeat, not a retcon.
I like the part of the social link with Nanako where she says when she grows up she wants to marry you. And your uncle just fricking looks at you with the biggest death glare in the world. Funniest fricker that Dojima, no wonder Adachi likes to mess with the guy.
>I like the part of the social link with Nanako where she says when she grows up she wants to marry you.
Adachi did say it was in the boonies. And Inaba sounds pretty similar to Alabama.
>mile time
Its around 9 minutes~ on a treadmill at max incline so I'm gonna guess like 7 while running on a flat surface >lifts
lmao 2pl8 (I don't consider this impressive but realistically more than 90% of people) >sports
bjj
>5:11 flat surface >also lmao 2pl8 >also bjj and wrestling
Alright anon we’re actually fairly alike and your shit sounds somewhat together physically. What’s biting you about your life then? Do you find yourself identifying with adachi like the goobers ITT?
It does not improve no matter how much I self-improve simple as. I am constantly told to try harder by people I feel like never had to try at all. With that said I don't think it was a waste of time to start getting fit as I am no longer disgusted looking at myself in the mirror.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>With that said I don't think it was a waste of time to start getting fit as I am no longer disgusted looking at myself in the mirror.
I think this is a very realistic thing for most people here and would improve quality of life a significant amount. Did for me anyway. I don’t discount other people writing off concerns elsewhere. Lots of gays think they can just tell somebody to go to therapy, thinking it’ll fix everything. That’s obviously moronic, but I’ll be damned if anons shouldn’t try to at least fix the little things and take better care of the body. It does aid the mind.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Lots of gays think they can just tell somebody to go to therapy, thinking it’ll fix everything.
It will if you can convince them to give you NEETbux for depression and anxiety lmao
>character is literally so wrong he in canon admits he was wrong and changes his ways permanently hereafter as he genuinely tries to repair all of the relationships he destroyed >literal morons who didn't even play the game but know the meme larp about how hes le right
>the devs explicitly make him say these things because they don't want anyone to agree with him >therefore nobody is allowed to ever empathize with him
You are exactly the target audience the developers want: someone who cannot think for themselves and just let the developers tell them what to think.
when you hit 30 you realize that he was wrong about literally everything and threw away a ton of opportunities because he thought he was above everyone else.
I don't get what Adachigays are trying to say. That everyone should just become Shadows? Society would totally collapse and it would pretty much destroy the human race very quickly.
No, think about ahy Adachi was meme'd into literally me status.
Adachi believes that Society scams people >"Your efforts will be rewarded"
is a common phrase in almost every culture, in Japan it's extremely common to said it after a losing or other type of failure.
However, Adachi didn't saw the rewards for his efforts, of course he was delusional thinking than having a good job and being an mediocre to ok worker would bang him praise and a harem of hot b***hes.
But he didn't expect to be sent to Nothingsville, Ohio after A SINGLE, ONE, UNO, ICHI Mistake, he felt like all his efforts were trumped by one wrong, and he instead saw people that didn't put any effort get rewarded by a single right, having talent.
That's what doompilled Adachi, his efforts didn't matter in his personal experience, it was a lottery either you did get it or you didn't. It's an unfair world and people claiming that efforts matter lied to him all his life, that's why he's the enemy or a game were truth is the main theme. Adachi lies, because society lied to him first, he got destroyed by it, he also thought that putting people in the TV was his own talent and he saw how to exploit it to his benefit (entertainment).
To the Investigation Team it did matter, as most of his problems were their conflicts about their identities and their place about society they were (mostly) fine member of society while living with lies in their minds >Chie believing that she was only using Yukiko >Yukiko believing that a prince would make her free >Kanji taking the homopill >Teddie believing he wasn't a shadow and didn't belong anywhere >Rise believing she was just a face and a prostitute >Naoto taking the 41%pill
In the end the true mattered, gave them peace of mind and happiness but in society bigger picture them still living with lies rent free on their mind didn't change their role in it.
They were teenagers dealing with teenager problems. Adachi was an adult with adult problems. The truth couldn't do shit for him except help him cope with his shitty lot in life.
The truth about Adachi is that he was just a lonely fellow that didn't knew how to connect to others, that's why you BTFO him with said power.
He had a nice thing going with Dojima, he respected him and didn't hate him, however he never presented his true self due to fear or just plain laziness. The happiest you see Adachi is always with the Dojima's.
His rant about the world is correct, but his core misery was due to loneliness.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>that's why you BTFO him with said power.
After beating him with force. >he had a nice thing
Did he really? Or was he just doing the standard Japanese thing of letting his boss decide his social time? I will admit that he didn't hate Dojima though. >he never presented his true self
Because he'd already embraced, and to a certain extent, became his shadow. Mitsuo literally didn't have one, Namatame was just being used by them, and Adachi became his own while also being used by Izanami's crispy b***h ass.
The point is that Adachi's "truth" was always going to be bullshit compared to everyone else's, because he was the only one with actual problems by "lol just accept urself".
>but his core misery was due to loneliness
Caused by his place in the world. At some point you get kicked down so many times you no longer want to try again because you already know the outcome.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>*actual problems that couldn't be fixed by
Well, I like to debate, so the conversation was interesting until we go back to the original point. We'll simply have to disagree at this point as I believe the game show you enough to not rely on Adachi's word. And yeah guns are cool. But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
>But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
Does everyone have to care about their job?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I suppose not, but it always seemed to me like he was trying to latch onto something.
>But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
Keep in mind that this is Adachi at peak disillusionment and nihilism who literally wants to turn the entire world into shadows. If you aren't going to take him at his word, then it can go the other way around. I doubt the Adachi who went through all the studying to become a detective thought the same way.
Hey, that is a good point.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>but it always seemed to me like he was trying to latch onto something.
That's what desperate people tend to do.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>After beating him with force.
I was about to tell you that it was the party that beat them, but you can actually beat him one on one with enough autism gameplay-wise. >Did he really? Or was he just doing the standard Japanese thing of letting his boss decide his social time? I will admit that he didn't hate Dojima though.
He complained about the job and took jabs at Dojima's seriousness, he wished that he spent more time at home, but you at least see in Golden than Adachi just goofs of at the Mall in his free time. >The point is that Adachi's "truth" was always going to be bullshit compared to everyone else's, because he was the only one with actual problems by "lol just accept urself".
Yeah, I agree.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>What he really means is perceived value but same shit really.
i.e. luck. Even Adachi couldn't accept the true black pill of the world. Even in his pessimistic worldview, people who are innately superior or "talented" get ahead, while reality doesn't bear that assumption out. A talentless moron with rich parents will live a hundred times better than a talented nobody. It's who you know, not what you know. Too bad nobody else is told of the power of social links. Thanks for that Igor, ya fricking israelite.
Both of you know that Adachi ranting was 4 minutes before the fog boss popped out of his body and his eyes were yellow the entire time? You take his word at face value? Mister Adachi who said he enjoyed watching you chase Namatame, yet Adachi appeared in foggy nights being mad there was no dead body? Mister Adachi who sent letters to your home when he figured out you were stopping Namatame? Surely a game about lies having the villian lackey lying to you wouldn't be unheard of, right? Why the frick do you people believe all of Adachi's words? He's a fricking liar and it's made worse by the fog God possessing him. Go replay the game or shut up. Shadow Yukiko/Naoto/Kanji said crazy shit too, guess what dipshits, the shadows had yellow eyes and weren't fully truthful. If I told you the cookie jar was empty but didn't tell you I ate them, I would be distorting the truth like Adachi. It's thematical the fog God lackey would distort the truth. Adachi never wanted to be caught and "muh Shadow world merge" was never his goal, he wanted someone to be his fall guy for his murders. Play the fricking game, stop imprinting your /misc/ memes.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Adachi is a different case from the rest. His power, and Shadow, is directly influenced by Izanami, who's been peeking at the collective unconscious for a long time. And wasn't it confirmed that the man in the fog wasn't Adachi?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Disco fog God took control of Adachi after Naoto exposed him at the hospital. Adachi got ACKED off screen.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>And wasn't it confirmed that the man in the fog wasn't Adachi?
It might have been Namatame checking to see if he "saved" people by throwing them in the TV.
Kek, I mean maybe, but after her dungeon she takes her career more seriously instead of just doing it because others tell her or her using it as a crutch to don't show her original shyness.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure the money has nothing to do with it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't remember she ever mentioned money as the reason. She was okay living with her grandparents at the bakery and I don't think she was having a life of luxury there.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>She was okay living with her grandparents at the bakery and I don't think she was having a life of luxury there.
Anon how fat do you think her bank account is?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Idols aren't paid that much unless they diversify to acting/voice acting/tv hosting and start making exclusive deals with brands.
So during 4/Golden: >10k to 50k at best
P5 events (there's an 8 year gap): >100k to 500k at best
5 months ago
Anonymous
>and start making exclusive deals with brands.
Didn't Rise already have brand deals and shit by that point?
5 months ago
Anonymous
She had a bottle water deal, but she was also just a rising star. You can see that she had to rebuilt from the bottom in Dancing after her hiatus.
I don't get what Adachigays are trying to say. That everyone should just become Shadows? Society would totally collapse and it would pretty much destroy the human race very quickly.
Inaba is basically prison for Adachi >Options to advance or leave are limited >Closed off from the rest of the world >Small group of people you see everyday >Bullied by superiors >No pussy
Can you blame him? Sure you could be like Andy in Shawshank or something but he only got to make the best of his time there because he was able to do their taxes and money laundering and everyone loved and valued him as a result.
That's what Adachi was talking about when he said that the only thing that really matters is the end is talent. What he really means is value but same shit really.
Oh boo hoo. I'm sure everyone working at June's just loves their fricking jobs. He can still go enjoy the larger city by hanging out there or doing things there. If the only thing in his life is his job, well, he built his own prison. Even working my own shitty job at least I have vidya.
>He can still go enjoy the larger city by hanging out there or doing things there.
No, he can't. He's a cop. He's stuck in Inaba when he's on-duty, and since it's a small town in the middle of nowhere that's basically 24/7
5 months ago
Anonymous
He has off duty time. Oh wait, he spends that moping in june's lobby and getting namatame to do shit.
>he built his own prison
And there it is. That worthless notion to "accept responsibility" when it's really just a way of getting people to fight amongst themselves while ignoring the real cause of their problems: the people in power who make all the shitty decisions.
The only difference between a person and a shadow is that the shadow is honest.
So you're blaming someone else for Adachi's own choices. I just don't believe that there's any reason to take him at his word that he was railroaded by someone else, given his behavior in game. He's a liar, manipulative, and cruel. The thing he likes most about his job is having a gun. There's no doubt in my mind he got caught doing something stupid. And we've already discussed this.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I just don't believe that there's any reason to take him at his word that he was railroaded by someone else
Then what's the point in having this discussion? >having a gun
Which is rare as frick in Japan. Plus guns are cool. Point is Adachi had no driving passion like Kanji or a preset path like Yukiko. He just had his smarts and decided to try being a cop. It's not like everyone knows what they want to be from birth.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well, I like to debate, so the conversation was interesting until we go back to the original point. We'll simply have to disagree at this point as I believe the game show you enough to not rely on Adachi's word. And yeah guns are cool. But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
Keep in mind that this is Adachi at peak disillusionment and nihilism who literally wants to turn the entire world into shadows. If you aren't going to take him at his word, then it can go the other way around. I doubt the Adachi who went through all the studying to become a detective thought the same way.
>he built his own prison
And there it is. That worthless notion to "accept responsibility" when it's really just a way of getting people to fight amongst themselves while ignoring the real cause of their problems: the people in power who make all the shitty decisions.
The only difference between a person and a shadow is that the shadow is honest.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>And there it is. That worthless notion to "accept responsibility"
Which is basically all tradition Japanese culture is. Adachi was fricking doomed.
>What he really means is perceived value but same shit really.
i.e. luck. Even Adachi couldn't accept the true black pill of the world. Even in his pessimistic worldview, people who are innately superior or "talented" get ahead, while reality doesn't bear that assumption out. A talentless moron with rich parents will live a hundred times better than a talented nobody. It's who you know, not what you know. Too bad nobody else is told of the power of social links. Thanks for that Igor, ya fricking israelite.
why do so many people on Ganker fail to realize that attraction is automatic and some people despite putting in 100% effort to exercise, get a good job, have interesting hobbies, and talk to women will never ever score while some drug dealer that has multiple baby mommas and is on the run from child support will always score?
>attraction cannot be faked either
I don't think we are talking about the same, I'm talking about cosmetics+fashion. If you don't want to call it fake call it enhancing.
Looksmaxxing can only go so far if you have a good base it works but if you don't then it's a waste of time and money and you're more likely to frick yourself up even more
Going from a 2 to a 5 is an immense improvement, that's how must of Asian countries survive, have you seen them without makeup? Imposible to be physically attracted in my opinion.
Just look at how big is the Cosmetic industry in SKorea.
So if someone you weren’t attracted too for whatever reason for whatever reasons, eventually addressed said reasons, you wouldn’t at least think a little different of them compared to before?
you might think different but your response would still be automatic. if a woman is fat and you find her automatically ugly because of it and she loses the weight and looks different and then you find her automatically attractive the attraction is still automatic rather than earned because she put in effort. you are admiring the looks automatically not the actual effort of her losing weight
because having a romantic partner gives validation of your worth since there does not exist any sort of compulsion for your significant other to want you. So if deadbeat can find people that want to be with him that way but "hard working nice guy" cannot then it implies his accomplishments do not mean much.
I understand that, but do the prostitutes fricking the drug dealer really love him? Are those really the kind of women you want to be tied to for the rest of your miserable life?
you can say the women are shitty but that makes it even worse for "nice guy". imagine this typical scenario.
>I met this girl I like but I found out she is fricking this guy or does hookups >lol man you dodged a bullet that bawd will frick anyone (except you)
the women fricking deadbeat guy are not any more in love with niceguy than they are deadbeat but they give deadbeat endless sex for free while niceguy gets a good morning text in exchange for dinners and attention and she still would rather hookup with other guy.
But again, why would you want to associate with prostitutes? Why are you obsessing about how much sex a prostitute is having if your goal is to find a meaningful relationship? You're making it about what you aren't as opposed to what the woman IS.
Even if she decided to put out you would still be unhappy and ultimately resentful.
5 months ago
Anonymous
because neither the prostitutes nor the "quality" women want the incel
It's better and more interesting than the tired, typical motivations of >Want to get rich quick >significant other cheated on me >want political power >want revenge against one person specifically
etc, etc.
To admit that Adachi was right, or even had a point that might possibly be valid, would be to reject everything they believe about the world and how it works, and their place in it.
If you replay the game you realize that Adachi is suffering being berated by everyone publicly. His coworkers and your uncle (implied to be his boss) outright think he's a dipshit of the police force and don't take him seriously. Now I'm not saying to sympathize but in a game about FRIENDSHIP IS MY SUPERPOWER, Adachi being bullied socially is hypocritical. Same with that ugly kid who asked out Yukiko, only to be humiliated publicly.
I know its a wish fulfillment game for teenagers but its always so funny how some of the most talented and lucky kids ever born just tell Adachi to b himself and try harder. Its actually incredibly realistic.
>they're not telling him to try harder at work. but at social skills, which he never does. of course
Because it's already too late.
[...]
Both of you know that Adachi ranting was 4 minutes before the fog boss popped out of his body and his eyes were yellow the entire time? You take his word at face value? Mister Adachi who said he enjoyed watching you chase Namatame, yet Adachi appeared in foggy nights being mad there was no dead body? Mister Adachi who sent letters to your home when he figured out you were stopping Namatame? Surely a game about lies having the villian lackey lying to you wouldn't be unheard of, right? Why the frick do you people believe all of Adachi's words? He's a fricking liar and it's made worse by the fog God possessing him. Go replay the game or shut up. Shadow Yukiko/Naoto/Kanji said crazy shit too, guess what dipshits, the shadows had yellow eyes and weren't fully truthful. If I told you the cookie jar was empty but didn't tell you I ate them, I would be distorting the truth like Adachi. It's thematical the fog God lackey would distort the truth. Adachi never wanted to be caught and "muh Shadow world merge" was never his goal, he wanted someone to be his fall guy for his murders. Play the fricking game, stop imprinting your /misc/ memes.
>Why the frick do you people believe all of Adachi's words?
Because he's actually right.
This. >attractive rich teenagers with perfect social lives think they know the true meaning of life
This shit will not be funny. Society always reward their kind, they’ll never know what it’s like to be a bottom feeder of the social totem pole. Some people are stuck there for the rest of their fricking lives.
Maybe society will award if you actually I don’t know….put in some effort into your life? Pic related is right, you are a baby throwing a tantrum. Grow some fricking balls.
I’ve downloaded Tinder, Bumble, Zoosk Hinge went to bars, the gym, church, supermarket and women still avoid me.
I’ve applied to 30+ jobs over the past year and I’m still unemployed.
I’ve tried to lift and get in the hopes that I will find social success but it never happened.
So what else do I need to do? This world isn’t for me. I was never meant to be born and my life will only be consistent with failures.
yeah idk what hes talking about. some people are just born to be losers and always will be despite their best efforts. sucks. my life hasn't been bad by any means but there must be something wrong with my brain chemistry because i feel very little joy doing anything.
Adachi was caught was because he sent letters telling you to stop. But possessed Adachi says he wanted you and Namatame to keep saving people forever. Adachi never ran off into the Shadow World until the very last month of the game. I wonder if there's a connection between Adachi getting mindfricked by Fog-Okami-kun and lying about everything he's done. Because in-game Adachi from her beginning wasn't happy you were stopping Namatame from murdering people.
Maybe that's how he felt at the start but eventually came to enjoy the cat-and-mouse game too much and realized that once the killing stops, he has to go back to his regular shitty life. It makes sense that he'd tell Namatame to "save" people with the express intent of him accidentally killing him and eventually being caught/killing himself. But then (Yu) stepped in and fricked all that up.
he is a mentally ill man that cant appreciate life no more lol he literally just becomes a nihilist
the meaning of life is the fight for survival day to day to either enjoy or suffer another day both are based, better than just being dead experiencing nothing, he is a homosexual loser that didnt comprehend this
>Persona 4&5: Shadows are dishonest by nature, take what they say with a grain of salt >Persona 4&5 show Shadows having yellow iris >Persona 4 players who don't understand the Adachi at the December dungeon isn't really him anymore >For more than 10 years Adachi is misunderstood by the so called Truth Seekers fanbase
Izanami fricking won. morons still live in fog.
He is a nihilist homosexual
play Persona 3 that game makes you appreciate life, because it touches on the topic of death very profoundly, nobody wins against death in the end but that is not the point, the point is to win the next day and the next day and the next day until you cannot fight no longer, the point is to give a fight. that in-itself is meaningful.
He fused with his shadow. They're one in the same at that point. But they aren't dishonest, just distorted. They're funhouse mirror reflections of the person's true feelings.
He is a nihilist homosexual
play Persona 3 that game makes you appreciate life, because it touches on the topic of death very profoundly, nobody wins against death in the end but that is not the point, the point is to win the next day and the next day and the next day until you cannot fight no longer, the point is to give a fight. that in-itself is meaningful.
But dying might be the best thing to happen to any of us. We only cling to life because we fear death, but none of us actually know what death actually is. We just see what appear to be its effects in our world.
He is right about certain things, certain people are born in situations where they have clear benefits others do not have. Not everybody succeeds solely to this, which is where he is wrong. Working to something does show progress, and he ultimately gave up on everything. Dude made his own gun out of spare parts in Japan, but he had talent but he wasted it. He stands to show what someone who gives up after a fall looks like.
>Working to something does show progress, and he ultimately gave up on everything.
But it doesn't though, that's the whole point. Or it's so difficult it's not even worth the effort. >spare parts
He bought a replica and then modified it to be functional. Hardly a feat worthy of MacGyver.
Wait until you hit your late 30s
nah when you hit your 30s you just stop giving a frick about what everyone thinks, I would even say its the age when you actually start to enjoy life, not being constricted by society's expectation by sheer indifference
t. 35 oldgay, to every 20s guy reading this my life tip is to stop giving a damn, society will ALWAYS say you are in the wrong, so stop trying to mold yourself to something you arent, life is too short to waste it on impossible expectations, and too long to fake your happiness
>still sits on Ganker
You're here forever.
and?
>Started sitting on Ganker, excluding since 2008-2012
Ganker is what brings me happiness in life though.
based, thank you, I'm late 20s but I still care about what others say about me but I'm sure I'll get there.
look man, if you are working and contributing to society, that being from flipping burgers or practicing neurosurgery, you are entitled to your own life, you want to watch animes and read mangas in your free time? go for it, you want to work out at the gym and eat protein ice cream for meal and dinner? go for it champ, your life its your own, nobody but you should have the las word reagarding how you want to live
Truth
>nah when you hit your 30s you just stop giving a frick about what everyone thinks
And oh my fricking GOD is it liberating.
based but i'm 28 and think this way
Same except I've embraced near-total apathy.
Apathy is death.
>Apathy is death.
Apathy is death.
>Apathy is death.
Apathy is death.
Yeah Kreia, I know. I just don't care.
34 here this poster might be bullshitting but that is the truth.
I'm only in my mid 20s but I'm slowly starting to not give a shit about anything anymore.
The only thing left to do is stop going back to this place
Utterly based and absolutely correct.
This is a lesson this place should have taught you already, or at least what it has turned into.
Based anon, thank you.
Just stop caring, bros. It's all you gotta do.
Disregard pointless bullshit, disregard what other people say about you, disregard anything that does not serve you. Focus on the moment, focus only on being the best version of you you can be right now and doing what is good for yourself and the people you care about.
whats everything, anon?
Anon he tried to sexually assault two women and then murdered them. He was a dumb homosexual who took his comfy life as a cop in the boonies for granted because he thought he was special.
>Anon he tried to sexually assault two women and then murdered them.
...and what exactly was he wrong about?
> tried to sexually assault someone
> quite literally a lie
Is it just me or everytime someone tries to prove Adachi wrong in these threads is 99% going to spit some bullshit that didn't even happen in game? Almost as if most persona fans don't play their games or something...
he did kill two women tho
I don't deny it, but it's very important to remember that he was literally set up by fricking GOD herself to be pushed to actually kill someone (the first kill wasn't even intentional)
>but it's very important to remember that he was literally set up by fricking GOD herself
Did you think Ameno Sagiri being a giant eye ball was just a coincidence?
Izanami is merely an observer.
>two b***hes
He was trying to get that that liquor girl's poontang
He was flirting with her, that doesn't count as sexual assault, the moment he realized she's not interested in him he just pushed her in
>making a girl choose between her life or sex isn't sexual assault
He didn't make her choose, he pushed her in because her rejection reminded him about being 'not good enough', this was essentially the reason he sperged out.
And even so, that'll be just assault, and not sexual assault.
It's not, because of the implication.
Why draw such meaningless distinctions
>trying to make sense on a thread that will be regurgitated until the literal end of the world
Here's my response: who cares? No, seriously, aside from Yosuke the simp and the bored teenager squad, who the frick actually cares?
I cared.
Nobody cares about you. Most people probably killed him on their first playthrough.
>he tried to sexually assault two women and then murdered them
They deserved it.
fr fr guy is literally me
He's just like me
>he tried to sexually assault two women and then murdered them
He didn't murder the TV lady, at most it would qualify as accidental manslaughter. Imagine a chef not knowing that a client is alergic to seafood and he puts it in,the client didn't knew, nobody told him, nobody knew that would happen.
The second one is attempted murder though he wasn't sure that she would die if she was thrown in the TV but he knew it was a possibility and still did it anyway.
It's OKAY for Adachi to kill people who had objectively better and more grandiose lives than him. Nothing wrong with it.
I mean, you can make a moral case against it as much as you like, but if life truly is unfair and it's every man for himself, what's wrong with killing those who are better off than you?
He was right about the unfair state of society but he was still a fricking psycho that deserved to get the shit kicked out of him.
Why did they draw him in a cheated angle then move his face so he looks at the camera? Is his head deformed?
BA SA DO
>chad
more like chud
>Teens
Adachi was right
>Early 20s
Adachi was wrong
>Late 20s/early 20s
ADACHI WAS RIGHT
Why do opinions we make as dumb teens turn out to be right on the edge of our thirties?
You're just right the first time, but as you get older you realized what a moron you were as a teen so you overcorrect and think the opposite. Then you truly mature later and realize "oh, I was right the entire time"
because you're regressing into a bigger moron. Sad!
that only happens when you fail in life, then you will be that guy that got stuck into relieving his teen glory years, meanwhile everybody moved on and are living happy lives
did you guys suspect him?
golden sadly gave it away with the social link
The game doesn't imply that he's bad by nature. In fact he's a mirror of the protagonist. Both were moved from the city to the countryside without wanting it, both start as lonely and introverted with average looks, both live in a relatively similar environment. The difference is that while Adachi took it as a punishment, Y(o)u took it an opportunity and succeeded unlike him. Y(o)u reached out to the truth while he didn't
>both start as lonely and introverted with average looks
bro this doesnt describe the Persona 4 MC at all
When he arrived in Inaba he didn't know anyone, including his own uncle and cousin. You choose his personality ig, but in the og anime he's initally calm, reserved and polite. He only becomes the meme gigachad everyone knows afterwards through character development (the Golden anime is implied to be the equivalent of a NG+)
Yu starts out the game with average in all stats, including Understanding or Bravery. Adachi is most certainly below average in most aspects. Funnily enough Makoto started out with negative stats in P3. I see no point in pretending that Yu started out in the same place as Adachi, not to mention he's much younger.
>Adachi took it as a punishment
Afaik he actually got punished by his superiors that's why he ended up in countryside, i think p5 mc is comparable to him
>both start as lonely and introverted with average looks
>CHAD ZIODYNEwiener
>average
Day one, day fricking one, Chie and Yukiko are asking to sit next to you.
Good.
Now that I'm in my late 20s I realize he was right about everything
I was talking about this with a friend but a lot of people don't get Adachi because the internet meme'd 2 images that weren't in the game. "I did it for the lulz" and "bitches and prostitutes", one was a motivation poster edit and the other was from a porn doujin. His backstory is he was an average student who followed his parent's instructions to the letter, just get good grades even if he wasn't a talented person. He joined the police academy and was the top of the class, but one mistake got him kicked from the city to the boonies and he hated everything about it.
The gas station attendant unlocked his Persona powers, he was freaked out but didn't do much, then he started watching the Midnight Channel after hearing the rumors he'll find his true love. He saw the woman who "belonged to him" and by struck of luck he was assigned her protective duty, but he was enraged she was seeing another man (Namatame) and felt betrayed. Adachi never thought he killed her until seeing her corpse, you see when he vomits off-screen and your uncle berates him for being a pussy.
The second victim was the high school girl who happened on the corpse of the first victim. On paper he says he called her down the station for an interview to cover his tracks, but in reality its heavily implied Adachi saw her on the Midnight Channel and thought he found for real his soulmate. In the flashback you see Adachi really riled up and he mentions how he isn't good enough for her unlike Namatame, because from his point of view Adachi is losing all his soulmates to him. Now that we know Adachi has it out for Namatame and that he can kill people by throwing them into the TV, what happened in the rest of the game? He encouraged Nametame to keep saving people because he wanted to pin his crimes on him, not because he wanted to cover the world in shadows.
There's only one bad ending where people get turned into shadows, in the rest of the bad endings the town remains foggy. When Adachi says he did things for boredom and because he could, he's lying. He's already under the possession of the fog God when you corner him. Every action in the game contradicts what possessed Adachi says before his boss fight. He says he wanted you and Namatame to keep the game of cat and mouse forever, but in every insistence that you save a victim you get a cutscene of the central market where a foggy man curses that no body was found. In addition when you catch the copycat murderer, Adachi is the only person who says the true killer is still out there casually, because he really wants Namatame to get caught. When Naoto presents the evidence that pins it to Namatame, Adachi doesn't say another culprit is out there. And lastly Adachi sent the threatening letters to your home because he wants Namatame to actually get someone killed. He knows you're stopping Namatame and wants this cat and mouse game to end. All of his actions say he wants to remain in society and wants to avoid being called a murderer.
He didn't really do it for the lulz like he's popularity depicted, he just wanted to get away with his two murders and wanted Namatame to be his fall guy out of deep resentment. That's it, that's Adachi.
I mean, Namatame is a politician. Frick that guy.
>On paper he says he called her down the station for an interview to cover his tracks, but in reality its heavily implied Adachi saw her on the Midnight Channel
It's because he saw Nametame talking to her.
When she rejected him, he got angry because it seemed like he was worthless if a creepy dude like Nametame can bag two hotties.
Akechi or Adachi? Who did it better?
I have quite literally never related so much to a character as I have Adachi this is not a shitpost just cold hard truth.
>moron thinks he's special and that life 'owes' him
>spent his college time studying instead of socializing and making bonds with his future co-workers
>gets assigned to the boonies even though his whole motivation to be a cop was 'gun cool'
I can see why the utter failures and losers here think he was 'right' lmao
based sociopath adachi should gotten some muhfuggin pussy at the club while failing all his classes but still passing through pure nepotism
if he was 'special' then he should've had no problem making friends AND passing his classes, as normal people do
He was only special in the way he should've worn a helmet around the house.
moron
This is why you're all going to die. Life and society SHOULD owe you the bare minimum to survive in it. Otherwise what's the point in having it?
He GOT that and then some, given his choice of occupation.
No he didn't? He's eating nothing but cabbages and drinking beer.
He goes to Dojima's sometimes. He could have befriended the old lady that took interest in him. He could have befriended a lot of people but he chose to be OH THEY'RE ALL SO ANNOYING.
>He could have befriended the old lady that took interest in him.
You mean the one that annoys him and only makes him food he doesn't like because her son with the same name likes it that way?
>lot of people
Name one outside of the old lady. No, the high school protagonist and his cousin don't count.
Adachi didn't communicate with her, he just dodged her and dumped her Nimino in the sink and complained to Yu about her.
The town isn't a bustling metropolis, but a small town where everyone seems to know each other. Adachi could have been apart of that.
No he couldn't have. You don't understand him.
Those who haven't been in the same place as Adachi can't understand him.
>Adachi didn't communicate with her
Why would he?
>Adachi could have been a part of that
A part of what? It seems to just be old people, their kids and out-of-towners.
>you want to die but are too much of a pussy to do it
Adachi got destroyed by a teenaged girl LMAO
>I don't know what depression is
Sounds about right for Yukiko, she is moronic after all.
Normalgays cannot understand Adachi because they are mindless animals that coasted through life without needing to try at all. They see that Adachi failed despite doing his best and decide that he simply didn't try hard enough or b himself.
>failed despite doing his best
lol
> decide that he simply didn't try hard enough
imagine being SO moronic that fricking PERSONA 4 is beyond your understanding. IMAGINE
>bruh imagine bruh fr
Why does redditors post like this
Nobody mentioned that are you by chance extremely dumb and can only think in preset personality type strawmans ie mindless?
>inserts his zoomer lingo where there wasn't any, names Reddit, his home
why are projecting tourist morons like this
So heckin true IMAGINE doing that can you even imagine somebody imagining to do that?! I cant even (imagine)
Sorry you're too dumb for this conversation stick to dropping a few buzzwords its all you're capable of.
FRFR CUZ ONG ONG UR POST IS FIRE BLUD
mad because you were archetyped correctly KEK
> failed despite doing his best
Is literally a fact? He was THE best in his class (both physically and in terms of subjects) during his studying years, was respectful and had more or so good social skills despite being forced into homeschooling by his parents (says so in the game), he was an elite detective in TOKYO, one trivial mistake and he was jumped by his colleagues and was forced to work in a middle of nowhere.
Do you even comprehend just how fricked it was to him losing an elite position like that? No you don't, you didn't played the game.
I agree with you. Most people did not play the game and watched the anime or got their entire lore from meme images. Persona 4 is far from my favorite game in the franchise but Adachi is a walking contradiction of a character that you have to step back and examine before you get fooled. I bet most people here don't even know there's an accomplice ending added to P4 Golden.
>the ones who succeeded are the mindless ones, not me who doesn't touch my dick for a month thinking it will give me magic powers
LOL
>failed despite doing his best
his whole social link is about being a slacker and how cheating and lying is ok because muh hedonism
Normalgays will never admit someone can do their best and still end up fricked because it would shake their fundamental belief in their own good personality. They must think life is fair and they got where they did because they are such good people. If they admit you can fail despite your best effort they have to admit they just got lucky and were born with something others did not. And that is unbearable for them.
Plenty of people curse their hard work because it amounts to nothing. However, this isn't the only case for Adachi. He also screws up, is lazy, likes to toy with people, and never grows socially. Hard work alone never guarantees success, otherwise, all those warehouse workers for wal-mart would be set for life.
>He also screws up, is lazy, likes to toy with people, and never grows socially.
And... why do you think that is?
Because he feels entitled to success automatically. And when it isn't handed to him on a silver platter, he acts out.
>Because he feels entitled to success automatically.
Success? What do you determine to be success? Adachi had something he spent his entire life working towards and lost it for seemingly bullshit reasons. The way he sees it, he has no future anyway, so what does it matter if he decides to act out. The only reason this started is because he realized he could throw someone inside a TV. Don't tell me you couldn't be driven to do something similar if you were in the same place as him.
He didn't lose it for bullshit reasons. It's bullshit to him because he could never mess up. He's infallible in his eyes. He even can't cope with losing his own boss fight. He can't cope with being found out as the villain. Adachi can't cope that he's not the hot shit that he is in his mind.
We don't know what the mistake is, but since none of the other cops seem to care about it, it probably wasn't that big of a frickup.
Because he portrays himself as a silly incompetent goofball to them. For instance, you really think he had to puke at the crime scene? Or that he is getting distracted? He's fricking around.
>He's fricking around.
By making himself vomit? I mean, maybe.
For sure. He's not "accidentally" leaking information about the case, he's giving you that info on purpose. He's not missing things about the case, he knows the cases. He's just seeing where all this goes. Because it entertains him. He likes watching everyone wriggle.
What does that have to do with making yourself vomit on purpose?
To me it seems like part of the goof act. He "can't handle" the situation and has to rely on Dojima, how he couldn't possibly be a person who did the crimes. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit here.
Have you ever made yourself puke on purpose, anon?
Yea it's my go to to get out of situations since school
>part of the goof act
It's not. He's too apathetic to do his job correctly since he got to Inaba.
The vomit wasn't fake because he wasn't aware that the TV kills.
That may be the more likely situation.
>oh shit that b***h is actually dead i think im gonna hurl
>wait but that other chick i threw in a few nights ago
>welp time to go on lunch break
based
You do not get reassigned to an out of the way post because you made "one little mistake." You get shunted out to the boonies because you fricked up badly enough that they want to get rid of you, but privately enough that firing you might bring attention to the frickup. If you can't figure out, from Adachi's actions, what his "mistake" was then you might just be illiterate.
That seems to be your assumption, anon. I doubt you have any idea how the Japanese metropolitan police circa mid-late 2000s worked.
I will admit, I don't know that. What I do know is what Adachi tried to do both times we saw him alone and at an advantage with a female witness.
Yes, and? They were b***hes and/or prostitutes.
This argument would be more palatable to me if it wasn’t the same argument libs make to shit on the accomplishments of white people, or commies use to shit on the middle class, or rad feminists use to shit on men etc etc. obviously some are beyond hope but that’s a sharp minority and most people stand to gain at least a decent amount of satisfaction by doing the whole self improvement meme
>if it wasn’t the same argument libs make to shit on the accomplishments of white people
Except this is precisely what happens when what anon described occurs. When normalgays realize life isn't fair they do shit like that.
Ding ding ding. Survivorship bias is a curse upon the human race.
>muh libs
>muh commies
>muh feminists
>muh self improovement
lol
lmao even
I was in the same place you are now, anon. I just stopped caring is all. Maybe you'll do the same.
>woaaahhhh im so deatched and meta duuuddde
>what if nobody think but I
I’m actually pretty secure in today’s society. These threads and the paragraphs people write just morbidly interest me when I occasionally visit Ganker instead of good boards with mostly adjusted adults.
See? You're doing the same thing as the rest of them.
I'm not detached to be meta. I'm detached because I no longer give a shit about basically anything.
What keeps you waking up each day? Is being that detached not a net negative with the inconveniences of living?
>What keeps you waking up each day?
Inertia. A handful of things that interest me and I'd like to see through. That's basically it.
>not a net negative
I never said it wasn't. It's just easier not to care when everything is going to shit.
Wait you didn’t answer any of the questions. Is this kind of talk about normies really any different from people b***hing about white prívelege?
>Is this kind of talk about normies really any different from people b***hing about white prívelege?
Does it matter either way? Most white people are normies.
>I'm just visiting a site for losers, I'm not actually a loser but a sophisticated adult
Every time
Ganker hasn't been a site for losers in at least 10 years (I'm not saying this is a good thing btw its just a fact)
Nah I just have some nerd hobbies. I usually browse tg and fit, but I like to come to v because it’s full of ridiculous posts and I used to post here ten years ago when I was underage. I don’t think it’s a site for losers, I think the schizo threads about consoles are funny and nostalgic. Occasionally I see this tho and it reminds me of LULZ
>moronic incel can't even rape correctly
L
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>didnt even give him an answer
She deserved to get thrown in.
They only like him because he's a serial killer. b***hes love serial killers.
What's crazy to me is that women profess to like Adachi.
Maybe I should act more like him
reminder that Adachi did nothing wrong and he's a saint compared to literally anyone from any SMT game
Adachi is a fricking loser but he is a fricking loser that Ganker losers can look up to because he at least got a job, unlike their NEET asses
I worked at a supermarket before, having a job really isn't worth much. I'd rather be free and not have anything than be a slave who pays "bills".
>having a job really isn't worth much
Especially now. It's never been worth less and harder to get.
Is it ever expanded upon what the mistake he made in Tokyo was? I always got the impression he undermines it and actually did something fricked up hence transferring him to the boonies
He mentions that it was something small, Dojima should know exactly what was that mistake, and considering he never really mentions it while nagging Adachi, it does seems like it was indeed a small one.
Adachi himself has no reason to lie about it either, he says that he doesn't care for sympathy from others, nor is he dumb enough to really have a massive blunder, opposite actually
I internalize it as Adachi being unsociable enough that people didn't want him around and they used one mistake to kick him from the city cops to the village of hicks. I like that it's never explained what Adacahi did other than than from his own admission it was a minor mistake. Could've been a clerical error for all we know lol.
that's a good point, dojima seems to like adachi despite knowing he fricked up, so it couldn't have been that bad. Going to be honest, I thought he just snapped because a woman rejected him, but he's a lot deeper than that.
Probably busted a politician's son or some other nepotistic face-saving filial piety bullshit.
he was right, yu just got to cope by having yuki pussy
>not autistic big titty tomboy detective pussy
you either die as the protagonist, or live long enough to become the adachi
Why was he transferred to Inaba after stopping Kira?
Boss was a Lightgay
Adachi is too deep for Persona audience. That's why they went with uwu murderhobo in the next game.
I've only played P3 for a few hours but now I want to play 4 because adachi sounds like a based chad.
the PS2 version because it looks better and denuvo
>still no mod for P4G that brings back PS2 graphics
Yeah I know it's hard on the technical side but I hoped there'd be at least one dedicated autist.
PS2 has the best Chie voice too.
Woah that's actually crazy how much of the atmosphere was sucked out of the remaster. I liked P4G but I always did think the fog was a little lacking visually, despite how much it is talked about.
PS2 had dedicated chip that could be used for certain post processing effects like fog. For most cases it was used as means to blur imagine or hide draw distance.
In case of P4 (and as example Okami) it was also part of story/atmosphere.
Yeah that's the thing with remasters, sometimes they overlook the small details that give the game its charm. Especially when it comes to fog. Silent Hill HD Collection is a great example.
brighter colors for the PS Vita, they didn't care to change them when bringing it back to consoles.
Even if you're spoiled by Adachi you'll have fun keeping him under surveillance the whole game. How much of Adachi's personality is an act or his actual true demeanor? When you meet Shadows of people in Persona 4/5, they tell distorted versions of the truth. Every Palace owner of Persona 5 is hilariously tone deaf cartoon bad, but Persona 4 shadows were more nuance with their distortion of the truth. Although Persona owners can't have Shadows, Adachi is special in that the moment he stayed in the TV world (starting December when you accuse him), he's under the influence of Ameno-Sagiri (fog God eyeball). So every cutscene that happens in the TV world with Adachi has to be taken with a grain of salt, he's not 100% himself.
>Does Adachi hate society?
No, because he would've merged the two worlds long before Namatame started his savior complex kidnappings. If living is too hard and it'd be easier to live as a Shadow, why didn't he commit to enacting the TV world and real world plan much sooner? Because he didn't want to and the fog God was possessing him in the TV world when had no other options.
>Did Adachi want you and Namatame to keep kidnapping and saving forever?
No, in spite of what possessed Adachi says, no. And this is your first point of reference that boss fight Adachi is telling half-truths. He showed up on foggy nights to see Namatame produce a dead body and got mad the entire game. He sent threatening letters to your home because he wanted Namatame to get caught and have Adachi's murders be swept under the rug with that guy.
>he's not 100% himself.
He's more like 200% himself since that's what Ameno was doing, exaggerating his traits.
>merged the two worlds long before
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he basically had no control over that, right? It was just something that was happening as a result of Ameno. Adachi just liked the idea, or was brainwashed into doing so, and was defending it.
You are actually a moron.
>Now that I'm in my late 20s
you are a fricking child
you still have much to learn
>SHE WAS ONLY 29 YOU SICK BASTARD
My understanding of Adachi was that his philosophy is understandable and possibly even relatable for the player; but that the actions of Yu and the gang prove that making the best of a bad situation trumps wallowing in misery? Granted it's been a while since I played P4 but I thought Adachi just kind of accepted that he was shipped to the countryside and undermined; so he did nothing about it except internalise his anger and belittle those around him. Whereas Yu gets sent to the countryside and takes advantage of anything presented to him.
Example, Adachi is stalked by an old woman who thinks him a saint because he's police officer, and even though she offers to cook for him, he dodges her like the plague. Meanwhile Yu actively goes out of his way to befriend and comfort a widowing old woman, ultimately making both her and himself stronger people.
The word you're looking for is foil. Both Adachi and Player Avatar/Yu are foils, right down to the Arcana representing Adachi being Fool. One thing about Adachi and the city that's an unspoken good use of writing is his mistake. The way he reacts and talks about being tossed from the city, he doesn't deny he made a mistake and he doesn't keep it hidden from you, he brings it up himself. That alone tells you that his cognition of good/bad is there but he just doesn't accept the punishment he was given by being sent to the village of hicks. We can't infer much about what Adachi did that got him in trouble but it sounded enough to be career ending to be sent to Inaba and yet your uncle trusts him enough to have him around his home to babysit Nanako. So it sounds less and less like a violent confrontation and potentially something as benign as embarrassing the police in front of a judge with bad evidence or mislabeled something in an evidence bag.
>but that the actions of Yu and the gang prove that making the best of a bad situation trumps wallowing in misery?
What bad situation? None of them have experienced what Adachi has, they don't understand. They all have bright futures ahead of them, whether they know it or not.
>the old woman
She was just using him as a replacement for her son who had the same name. Who the frick wants to befriend some old b***h anyway?
>Yu goes out of his way
It's a pointless social link, but at least she's a bit interesting by cosplaying a ye olden goth.
>Mfw playing P4 for the first time
>Vaguely remember Ganker threads with anons posting him
>"Hmmmm I wonder who the killer could be?"
>See his character icon for the first time in game
>Immediately know it's him
Welp fug
It happens. But when i get spoiled like that i just focus on the journey instead of thinking too much about the end. its still fun seeing the characters figure ou the mistery.
You should leave this thread. Adachi isn't the only spoiler in Persona 4. We talked about fog boss and Adachi but there's a bigger honcho you haven't heard from. Because they are forgettable and have shitty motives compared to Persona 3's Nyx Avatar.
>Because they are forgettable and have shitty motives compared to Persona 3's Nyx Avatar.
Someone's getting sent to the Shadow Realm.
Is this edited or does this really happen
You have to select Someone else -> Ryotaro -> Nanko to unlock it.
You have to select it in a specific way
Select someone else > Dojima > Nanako
It's commonly used as a fake spoiler
>Nyx
>"all of humanity just wants to die so I'll kill everyone"
So deep...
I was the same but it doesn't ruin the game for me at all because while he engineered the events of p4, he's technically not the culprit who sent people into the tv world
Surprisingly Ganker doesn't talk much about order of the events at all, they just talk about adachi's motives.
>Surprisingly Ganker doesn't talk much about order of the events at all, they just talk about adachi's motives.
Because that's the actually interesting part.
Because the person above Adachi is pointless. Gas attendant lady aka Izanami aka Marie's other half is a raging female, the equivalent of billions of men must die folklore Goddess.
>other half is a raging female, the equivalent of billions of men must die folklore Goddess.
Literally a woman moment personified. No wonder she works at a gas station.
As someone who played the game entirely blind, the game just sort of forces you to pick him because it's the only choice that sticks out as a sore thumb: He's not a party member or social link. At least he wasn't in the original.
The only other logical character would be Dojima.
Transfers like Adachi's don't happen for some little mistake. He fricked up big time and someone liked him enough to keep him on the police force instead of firing/jailing him. But he never wants to own up to that, it's always someone else's fault.
Adachi's transfers is like the inverse of the plot of Hot Fuzz.
Or he pissed off the wrong people by doing his job and not kissing ass or turning a blind eye when he was "supposed to".
>not kissing ass or turning a blind eye when he was "supposed to".
A parallel to Zenkichi.
Now that you mention it, they do look kinda similar. Both have grey eyes too.
Adachi's himself says he made a mistake which caused him to be sent out there. Given how he acts in game, I really think he messeed up and couldn't deal with that. He always goes on about his hard work, but he fricking does jack shit.
There's no way a stick-in-the-mud like Dojima would be even remotely friendly to Adachi if he actually made a severe mistake.
I don't see why not. Given the obvious parallels between him and Yu, he clearly does like to take people under his wing.
>Given the obvious parallels between him and Yu,
Except Yu never made a mistake. He's also his uncle and legal caretaker for the time he was in Inaba.
Right. But Dojima is still yelling at Adachi to get to work and stuff. Yes, he tries to help him, but he's still a bit rough with him with head slaps and such in the anime
That's because he mistakes his apathy for laziness. Dojima is kind of idiot. He's still chasing the guy who ran over his wife. In a country of tens of millions.
Yu is a Gary Stu and I don't know why anyone even likes him. He is just a male wish fulfillment fantasy.
>and I don't know why anyone even likes him
You answered your question twice: he's a power fantasy. You can pick the worst responses for almost every dialogue choice and nothing really changes. Everyone's still sucking your wiener.
His dynamic with Adachi in Golden is one of the highlights of his character. He actually feels somewhat vulnerable for a little bit.
>first day in a new school
>most beautiful (plus loaded) girl in school and her lesbian tomboy girlfriend spontaneously comes to Yu to accompany him home
>it isn't a one off but representative of everyone around Yu
It's so telegraphed and obvious I can't be annoyed with it, so I understand everyone just liking him.
Chad Ziodynewiener doesn't get on my nerves because at no point are we expected to treat him like an actual character instead of a vessel for the player's wish fulfillment.
Adachi is the realest homie.
oh... he's me
Some might even say he's literally me.
>He always goes on about his hard work, but he fricking does jack shit.
Maybe because he's seething that he got sent to a dead end village with no upward mobility in the police department because he made a mistake as a big city cop.
People still forget he is lazy because he's the culprit of his own case.
Truly, we live in a society
His beliefs are only being proven truer by the day.
What was he right about? Never played Persona.
I'm in my mid 30s. He's still right. Society is fricked and humanity is a joke.
I wish he'd abandon his pointless bond with Dojima the useless drunken father and Yu the paragon of virtue and time management. Who is he carrying those bricks for? Yeah, he's stuck in prison now, but I'm sure some other crazy guy hell-bent on destroying the world or whatever will try to recruit him and give him a chance to escape.
There's no reason for him to follow society's "rules" just because he lost to some snot-nosed kids.
Adachi is the best thing that ever happened to the Persona series and what put the series on the map of the general populace. The developers couldn't handle the fact that people like him and so went out of their way to insult any supporters in the new ending where you can side with him. So Japanese developers aren't too different from western developers, they just aren't willing to publicly say this about their audience.
The inevitable P4 remake is going to introduce him to a new generation. It will be beautiful. They'll probably reincorporate the Yosuke homosexual romance too. lmao
>They'll probably reincorporate the Yosuke homosexual romance too. lmao
Yosukes character makes a lot more sense with him being a closet homo.
It honestly does. Guy's a total homosexual for the MC and has a sex pest femboy in a fursuit living in his closet.
I mean, just listen to this shit and tell me it's not in-character.
>they just aren't willing to publicly say this about their audience.
It's a reversal of the west: the west hates its society and culture, while the east still reveres theirs to a fault.
You're both women btw. The accomplice ending abruptly ends the game and exists as a new bad end route for you to enter NG+ quickly if you really fricked up a social link or wanted to date someone else. But you're both women who think there's a meta narrative and know you won't get female MC like P3 Portable you fujoshis can only think about homosexual Yosuke route.
Show breasts b***h.
>The accomplice ending abruptly ends the game and exists as a new bad end route for you to enter NG+ quickly if you really fricked up a social link or wanted to date someone else
Can't you just toss Namatame into the tv for that?
It her's you the corrupted version of Adachi's SL maxed with a unique item, even if the effect is identical to doing it in the true ending.
>The developers couldn't handle the fact that people like him
In what fricked up parallel reality do Adachigays live?
The developers heavily leaned into his popularity after he was extremely one note in the original P4. He got his own social link to expand his character with an additional bad ending, he got a focus episode in the two anime series and he was basically the second protagonist in P4AU.
What the frick did you expect Adachi ending to be like? The guy is a remorseless murderer, did you think he would just become Yu's friend the second he covered up for him?
If he's not the protagonist of P6 I don't wanna hear it.
Nanako as protag with Adachi as Judgement.
Yes. She works a dead-end job at Junes and starts visiting uncle Adachi in the big house more and more as she becomes disillusioned with her life.
It's clear that the developers think the audience misinterpreted Adachi and so went out of their way to give supporters a bad ending out of spite. It must be inconceivable to both the developers and people like you that people could relate to what Adachi was saying. You don't have empathy for other people.
Adachi is so deep in his misanthropy he doesn't even care that you're siding with him. He still uses you to achieve his goals and blackmails you. Not that it really matters, considering the whole town and eventually the world will be shadows before long anyway.
What ending would you have preferred?
Even if you can relate to some of his arguments, the entire point of Adachi is that at the end of the day he tried to rape and killed an innocent woman, purposely murdered a student and then endangered the lives of the entire party for his own sick amusement. There's no scenario where he's not a bastard.
His ending is a natural progression of his character before his defeat, not a retcon.
I like the part of the social link with Nanako where she says when she grows up she wants to marry you. And your uncle just fricking looks at you with the biggest death glare in the world. Funniest fricker that Dojima, no wonder Adachi likes to mess with the guy.
>I like the part of the social link with Nanako where she says when she grows up she wants to marry you.
Adachi did say it was in the boonies. And Inaba sounds pretty similar to Alabama.
>Nanakos dead
>The east has fallen
That’s crazy bro but you really should get in shape instead of b***hing
you're a homosexual and don't deserve to be cruel to people
Fair but most of these posts are just preteens emoting rather than the few who genuinely have no hope and need sympathy
Post mile time, lifts, sports. If they’re good you get a pass to continue b***hing
>mile time
Its around 9 minutes~ on a treadmill at max incline so I'm gonna guess like 7 while running on a flat surface
>lifts
lmao 2pl8 (I don't consider this impressive but realistically more than 90% of people)
>sports
bjj
>2pl8
What's that in non Gankerizen units?
225lb/100kg bench press
Impressive, I'm stuck in skinny dyel mode.
>5:11 flat surface
>also lmao 2pl8
>also bjj and wrestling
Alright anon we’re actually fairly alike and your shit sounds somewhat together physically. What’s biting you about your life then? Do you find yourself identifying with adachi like the goobers ITT?
It does not improve no matter how much I self-improve simple as. I am constantly told to try harder by people I feel like never had to try at all. With that said I don't think it was a waste of time to start getting fit as I am no longer disgusted looking at myself in the mirror.
>With that said I don't think it was a waste of time to start getting fit as I am no longer disgusted looking at myself in the mirror.
I think this is a very realistic thing for most people here and would improve quality of life a significant amount. Did for me anyway. I don’t discount other people writing off concerns elsewhere. Lots of gays think they can just tell somebody to go to therapy, thinking it’ll fix everything. That’s obviously moronic, but I’ll be damned if anons shouldn’t try to at least fix the little things and take better care of the body. It does aid the mind.
>Lots of gays think they can just tell somebody to go to therapy, thinking it’ll fix everything.
It will if you can convince them to give you NEETbux for depression and anxiety lmao
I'm most likely more fit than you albeit though
>character is literally so wrong he in canon admits he was wrong and changes his ways permanently hereafter as he genuinely tries to repair all of the relationships he destroyed
>literal morons who didn't even play the game but know the meme larp about how hes le right
So? He was right, he just lost. Sound familiar?
>the devs explicitly make him say these things because they don't want anyone to agree with him
>therefore nobody is allowed to ever empathize with him
You are exactly the target audience the developers want: someone who cannot think for themselves and just let the developers tell them what to think.
>generic loser gets super powers
>first thing he does is trying to rape someone
Kinda based.
In a Nietzschean sort of way, yeah. The Will to Pussy.
There's another Adachi born every single day.
Why bother trying if you never seem to get anywhere whenever you do?
>hurr just try harder
Nah.
For yourself. Yeah some people are buttholes who will never like someone or something, despite any improvements/changes that occur, but frick them.
>For yourself.
But that's the point: it's not going anywhere.
Well if you don’t want to try and you’re fine with that, then that’s okay too. Ultimately you gotta do what makes you happy.
Damn that's one useless response.
best persona by miles, this is just one of the reasons why
when you hit 30 you realize that he was wrong about literally everything and threw away a ton of opportunities because he thought he was above everyone else.
He's right about a lot of things but killing two women solves fricking nothing.
>but killing two women solves fricking nothing.
It got rid of 2 insufferable prostitutes. That's something.
2 less b***hes and prostitutes in the world.
feels crazy being a year older than Adachi
im in the same situation as him too
except without persona powers
and a job
>and a job
Trust me, it is shit.
Being able to afford a $2000 pc is great but you don't have the time to play video games.
I don't get what Adachigays are trying to say. That everyone should just become Shadows? Society would totally collapse and it would pretty much destroy the human race very quickly.
No, think about ahy Adachi was meme'd into literally me status.
Adachi believes that Society scams people
>"Your efforts will be rewarded"
is a common phrase in almost every culture, in Japan it's extremely common to said it after a losing or other type of failure.
However, Adachi didn't saw the rewards for his efforts, of course he was delusional thinking than having a good job and being an mediocre to ok worker would bang him praise and a harem of hot b***hes.
But he didn't expect to be sent to Nothingsville, Ohio after A SINGLE, ONE, UNO, ICHI Mistake, he felt like all his efforts were trumped by one wrong, and he instead saw people that didn't put any effort get rewarded by a single right, having talent.
That's what doompilled Adachi, his efforts didn't matter in his personal experience, it was a lottery either you did get it or you didn't. It's an unfair world and people claiming that efforts matter lied to him all his life, that's why he's the enemy or a game were truth is the main theme. Adachi lies, because society lied to him first, he got destroyed by it, he also thought that putting people in the TV was his own talent and he saw how to exploit it to his benefit (entertainment).
>"Your efforts will be rewarded"
Which is the least true statement in the world in 2023.
Correct, but society still tries to cope with it.
Fortunately fewer and fewer people are accepting that message, and those reaching adulthood now are beginning to reject it entirely.
>or a game were truth is the main theme
And the truth probably doesn't even fricking matter to begin with.
To the Investigation Team it did matter, as most of his problems were their conflicts about their identities and their place about society they were (mostly) fine member of society while living with lies in their minds
>Chie believing that she was only using Yukiko
>Yukiko believing that a prince would make her free
>Kanji taking the homopill
>Teddie believing he wasn't a shadow and didn't belong anywhere
>Rise believing she was just a face and a prostitute
>Naoto taking the 41%pill
In the end the true mattered, gave them peace of mind and happiness but in society bigger picture them still living with lies rent free on their mind didn't change their role in it.
They were teenagers dealing with teenager problems. Adachi was an adult with adult problems. The truth couldn't do shit for him except help him cope with his shitty lot in life.
The truth about Adachi is that he was just a lonely fellow that didn't knew how to connect to others, that's why you BTFO him with said power.
He had a nice thing going with Dojima, he respected him and didn't hate him, however he never presented his true self due to fear or just plain laziness. The happiest you see Adachi is always with the Dojima's.
His rant about the world is correct, but his core misery was due to loneliness.
>that's why you BTFO him with said power.
After beating him with force.
>he had a nice thing
Did he really? Or was he just doing the standard Japanese thing of letting his boss decide his social time? I will admit that he didn't hate Dojima though.
>he never presented his true self
Because he'd already embraced, and to a certain extent, became his shadow. Mitsuo literally didn't have one, Namatame was just being used by them, and Adachi became his own while also being used by Izanami's crispy b***h ass.
The point is that Adachi's "truth" was always going to be bullshit compared to everyone else's, because he was the only one with actual problems by "lol just accept urself".
>but his core misery was due to loneliness
Caused by his place in the world. At some point you get kicked down so many times you no longer want to try again because you already know the outcome.
>*actual problems that couldn't be fixed by
>But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
Does everyone have to care about their job?
I suppose not, but it always seemed to me like he was trying to latch onto something.
Hey, that is a good point.
>but it always seemed to me like he was trying to latch onto something.
That's what desperate people tend to do.
>After beating him with force.
I was about to tell you that it was the party that beat them, but you can actually beat him one on one with enough autism gameplay-wise.
>Did he really? Or was he just doing the standard Japanese thing of letting his boss decide his social time? I will admit that he didn't hate Dojima though.
He complained about the job and took jabs at Dojima's seriousness, he wished that he spent more time at home, but you at least see in Golden than Adachi just goofs of at the Mall in his free time.
>The point is that Adachi's "truth" was always going to be bullshit compared to everyone else's, because he was the only one with actual problems by "lol just accept urself".
Yeah, I agree.
Both of you know that Adachi ranting was 4 minutes before the fog boss popped out of his body and his eyes were yellow the entire time? You take his word at face value? Mister Adachi who said he enjoyed watching you chase Namatame, yet Adachi appeared in foggy nights being mad there was no dead body? Mister Adachi who sent letters to your home when he figured out you were stopping Namatame? Surely a game about lies having the villian lackey lying to you wouldn't be unheard of, right? Why the frick do you people believe all of Adachi's words? He's a fricking liar and it's made worse by the fog God possessing him. Go replay the game or shut up. Shadow Yukiko/Naoto/Kanji said crazy shit too, guess what dipshits, the shadows had yellow eyes and weren't fully truthful. If I told you the cookie jar was empty but didn't tell you I ate them, I would be distorting the truth like Adachi. It's thematical the fog God lackey would distort the truth. Adachi never wanted to be caught and "muh Shadow world merge" was never his goal, he wanted someone to be his fall guy for his murders. Play the fricking game, stop imprinting your /misc/ memes.
Adachi is a different case from the rest. His power, and Shadow, is directly influenced by Izanami, who's been peeking at the collective unconscious for a long time. And wasn't it confirmed that the man in the fog wasn't Adachi?
Disco fog God took control of Adachi after Naoto exposed him at the hospital. Adachi got ACKED off screen.
>And wasn't it confirmed that the man in the fog wasn't Adachi?
It might have been Namatame checking to see if he "saved" people by throwing them in the TV.
>Rise believing she was just a face and a prostitute
That one is definitely still true.
Kek, I mean maybe, but after her dungeon she takes her career more seriously instead of just doing it because others tell her or her using it as a crutch to don't show her original shyness.
I'm sure the money has nothing to do with it.
I don't remember she ever mentioned money as the reason. She was okay living with her grandparents at the bakery and I don't think she was having a life of luxury there.
>She was okay living with her grandparents at the bakery and I don't think she was having a life of luxury there.
Anon how fat do you think her bank account is?
Idols aren't paid that much unless they diversify to acting/voice acting/tv hosting and start making exclusive deals with brands.
So during 4/Golden:
>10k to 50k at best
P5 events (there's an 8 year gap):
>100k to 500k at best
>and start making exclusive deals with brands.
Didn't Rise already have brand deals and shit by that point?
She had a bottle water deal, but she was also just a rising star. You can see that she had to rebuilt from the bottom in Dancing after her hiatus.
It is good to be a Shadow. It's a better way.
There is literally nothing wrong with being pissed off that you were forced into an environment you don't function in.
There really isn't.
Yes, and?
Inaba is basically prison for Adachi
>Options to advance or leave are limited
>Closed off from the rest of the world
>Small group of people you see everyday
>Bullied by superiors
>No pussy
Can you blame him? Sure you could be like Andy in Shawshank or something but he only got to make the best of his time there because he was able to do their taxes and money laundering and everyone loved and valued him as a result.
That's what Adachi was talking about when he said that the only thing that really matters is the end is talent. What he really means is value but same shit really.
And to add insult to injury there's a city that can be reached by scooter that he can't just transfer to for whatever fricking reason.
So why doesn't he just go hang out there for enjoyment then? What a moron.
Anon, what's his job again?
>but he can just quit
Not in Japan, it's career suicide and the best you could expect after that is maybe a 7/11
Oh boo hoo. I'm sure everyone working at June's just loves their fricking jobs. He can still go enjoy the larger city by hanging out there or doing things there. If the only thing in his life is his job, well, he built his own prison. Even working my own shitty job at least I have vidya.
>He can still go enjoy the larger city by hanging out there or doing things there.
No, he can't. He's a cop. He's stuck in Inaba when he's on-duty, and since it's a small town in the middle of nowhere that's basically 24/7
He has off duty time. Oh wait, he spends that moping in june's lobby and getting namatame to do shit.
So you're blaming someone else for Adachi's own choices. I just don't believe that there's any reason to take him at his word that he was railroaded by someone else, given his behavior in game. He's a liar, manipulative, and cruel. The thing he likes most about his job is having a gun. There's no doubt in my mind he got caught doing something stupid. And we've already discussed this.
>I just don't believe that there's any reason to take him at his word that he was railroaded by someone else
Then what's the point in having this discussion?
>having a gun
Which is rare as frick in Japan. Plus guns are cool. Point is Adachi had no driving passion like Kanji or a preset path like Yukiko. He just had his smarts and decided to try being a cop. It's not like everyone knows what they want to be from birth.
Well, I like to debate, so the conversation was interesting until we go back to the original point. We'll simply have to disagree at this point as I believe the game show you enough to not rely on Adachi's word. And yeah guns are cool. But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
>But the point of that line is he doesn't even care about being a police officer.
Keep in mind that this is Adachi at peak disillusionment and nihilism who literally wants to turn the entire world into shadows. If you aren't going to take him at his word, then it can go the other way around. I doubt the Adachi who went through all the studying to become a detective thought the same way.
>he built his own prison
And there it is. That worthless notion to "accept responsibility" when it's really just a way of getting people to fight amongst themselves while ignoring the real cause of their problems: the people in power who make all the shitty decisions.
The only difference between a person and a shadow is that the shadow is honest.
>And there it is. That worthless notion to "accept responsibility"
Which is basically all tradition Japanese culture is. Adachi was fricking doomed.
>What he really means is perceived value but same shit really.
i.e. luck. Even Adachi couldn't accept the true black pill of the world. Even in his pessimistic worldview, people who are innately superior or "talented" get ahead, while reality doesn't bear that assumption out. A talentless moron with rich parents will live a hundred times better than a talented nobody. It's who you know, not what you know. Too bad nobody else is told of the power of social links. Thanks for that Igor, ya fricking israelite.
>it's ok for small villages to have its identity sucked out the window by having a giant shopping mall being constructed
Ah yes, the correct truth about your average Hallmark Christmas movie.
Every day's great at your Junes
why do so many people on Ganker fail to realize that attraction is automatic and some people despite putting in 100% effort to exercise, get a good job, have interesting hobbies, and talk to women will never ever score while some drug dealer that has multiple baby mommas and is on the run from child support will always score?
>that attraction is automatic
You can fake it or just pay for it, there are other choices it's just isn't pretty to talk about them.
attraction cannot be faked either you are attracted to someone or not.
>attraction cannot be faked either
I don't think we are talking about the same, I'm talking about cosmetics+fashion. If you don't want to call it fake call it enhancing.
Looksmaxxing can only go so far if you have a good base it works but if you don't then it's a waste of time and money and you're more likely to frick yourself up even more
Going from a 2 to a 5 is an immense improvement, that's how must of Asian countries survive, have you seen them without makeup? Imposible to be physically attracted in my opinion.
Just look at how big is the Cosmetic industry in SKorea.
Because they're coping, or else they'd be seething like the rest of us. And some are trying to become the woman and are dilating.
So if someone you weren’t attracted too for whatever reason for whatever reasons, eventually addressed said reasons, you wouldn’t at least think a little different of them compared to before?
you might think different but your response would still be automatic. if a woman is fat and you find her automatically ugly because of it and she loses the weight and looks different and then you find her automatically attractive the attraction is still automatic rather than earned because she put in effort. you are admiring the looks automatically not the actual effort of her losing weight
I don't get this argument, why would anyone want to be the drug dealer? Even if you score you're still a deadbeat with failed children.
because having a romantic partner gives validation of your worth since there does not exist any sort of compulsion for your significant other to want you. So if deadbeat can find people that want to be with him that way but "hard working nice guy" cannot then it implies his accomplishments do not mean much.
I understand that, but do the prostitutes fricking the drug dealer really love him? Are those really the kind of women you want to be tied to for the rest of your miserable life?
>I understand that, but do the prostitutes fricking the drug dealer really love him?
God you can't even imagine fricking
>but do the prostitutes fricking the drug dealer really love him?
Anon, I don't think that matters. Kek.
you can say the women are shitty but that makes it even worse for "nice guy". imagine this typical scenario.
>I met this girl I like but I found out she is fricking this guy or does hookups
>lol man you dodged a bullet that bawd will frick anyone (except you)
the women fricking deadbeat guy are not any more in love with niceguy than they are deadbeat but they give deadbeat endless sex for free while niceguy gets a good morning text in exchange for dinners and attention and she still would rather hookup with other guy.
But again, why would you want to associate with prostitutes? Why are you obsessing about how much sex a prostitute is having if your goal is to find a meaningful relationship? You're making it about what you aren't as opposed to what the woman IS.
Even if she decided to put out you would still be unhappy and ultimately resentful.
because neither the prostitutes nor the "quality" women want the incel
Better than having no sex and no children
>persona fans slowly coming to the realization that they play as the villains
Sadly, I played Tactics a decade or so before Royal, so I already knew the message.
I still liked Maruki, he's a nice pal.
>we live in a society
Why are these always the best villains in any media?
because all people know the truth deep down. pic very related
lol women
who the frick invented such a stupid thing
Lookin a lot like Lupin III with the (almost) Pink Jacket and yellow tie.
It's better and more interesting than the tired, typical motivations of
>Want to get rich quick
>significant other cheated on me
>want political power
>want revenge against one person specifically
etc, etc.
is persona 4 worth playing if you're into your late 20s
Even more so. Your perspective on it changes completely. Plus escapism is a nice way to avoid the shittiness of reality, at least for a while.
To admit that Adachi was right, or even had a point that might possibly be valid, would be to reject everything they believe about the world and how it works, and their place in it.
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Kpop girls!
>Life's not fair.
Wow, did it really take you 30 years to figure that out?
>le people only succeed cause le talent
>was a detective who flew up the ranks
If you replay the game you realize that Adachi is suffering being berated by everyone publicly. His coworkers and your uncle (implied to be his boss) outright think he's a dipshit of the police force and don't take him seriously. Now I'm not saying to sympathize but in a game about FRIENDSHIP IS MY SUPERPOWER, Adachi being bullied socially is hypocritical. Same with that ugly kid who asked out Yukiko, only to be humiliated publicly.
adachi is pretending to be moronic at work. as such, people shit on him.
I genuinely thought Adachi was the last boss of P4 for a decade because hes the only antagonist I saw people talking about
The final boss is such a last minute reveal most people forget it.
>I genuinely thought Adachi was the last boss of P4
He should have been. He's a pushover in the actual game.
I know its a wish fulfillment game for teenagers but its always so funny how some of the most talented and lucky kids ever born just tell Adachi to b himself and try harder. Its actually incredibly realistic.
Maybe Adachi should've tried doing anything instead of being a whiny homosexual
He was a good for 20 something years with basically nothing to show for it.
they're not telling him to try harder at work. but at social skills, which he never does. of course, some of them like yukiko say moronic shit.
>they're not telling him to try harder at work. but at social skills, which he never does. of course
Because it's already too late.
>Why the frick do you people believe all of Adachi's words?
Because he's actually right.
This.
>attractive rich teenagers with perfect social lives think they know the true meaning of life
This shit will not be funny. Society always reward their kind, they’ll never know what it’s like to be a bottom feeder of the social totem pole. Some people are stuck there for the rest of their fricking lives.
Maybe society will award if you actually I don’t know….put in some effort into your life? Pic related is right, you are a baby throwing a tantrum. Grow some fricking balls.
>Maybe society will award if you actually I don’t know….put in some effort into your life?
It doesn't though
Not true, but Adachi is basically lower-right corner when lower-left corner is the ideal way to live.
I’ve downloaded Tinder, Bumble, Zoosk Hinge went to bars, the gym, church, supermarket and women still avoid me.
I’ve applied to 30+ jobs over the past year and I’m still unemployed.
I’ve tried to lift and get in the hopes that I will find social success but it never happened.
So what else do I need to do? This world isn’t for me. I was never meant to be born and my life will only be consistent with failures.
yeah idk what hes talking about. some people are just born to be losers and always will be despite their best efforts. sucks. my life hasn't been bad by any means but there must be something wrong with my brain chemistry because i feel very little joy doing anything.
But that's the thing. It doesn't, and more and more people are figuring that out every day.
>Late 20s fricked up loser
>About to get a job in law enforcement
I'm literally (going to be) Adachi IRL
>tfw joining the police just to carry a gun
Not having free time sucks but at least I can afford a good PC.
Adachi was caught was because he sent letters telling you to stop. But possessed Adachi says he wanted you and Namatame to keep saving people forever. Adachi never ran off into the Shadow World until the very last month of the game. I wonder if there's a connection between Adachi getting mindfricked by Fog-Okami-kun and lying about everything he's done. Because in-game Adachi from her beginning wasn't happy you were stopping Namatame from murdering people.
Maybe that's how he felt at the start but eventually came to enjoy the cat-and-mouse game too much and realized that once the killing stops, he has to go back to his regular shitty life. It makes sense that he'd tell Namatame to "save" people with the express intent of him accidentally killing him and eventually being caught/killing himself. But then (Yu) stepped in and fricked all that up.
he is a mentally ill man that cant appreciate life no more lol he literally just becomes a nihilist
the meaning of life is the fight for survival day to day to either enjoy or suffer another day both are based, better than just being dead experiencing nothing, he is a homosexual loser that didnt comprehend this
Yeah nah, frick that. I'd rather not be born at all in that case.
>Persona 4&5: Shadows are dishonest by nature, take what they say with a grain of salt
>Persona 4&5 show Shadows having yellow iris
>Persona 4 players who don't understand the Adachi at the December dungeon isn't really him anymore
>For more than 10 years Adachi is misunderstood by the so called Truth Seekers fanbase
Izanami fricking won. morons still live in fog.
He is a nihilist homosexual
play Persona 3 that game makes you appreciate life, because it touches on the topic of death very profoundly, nobody wins against death in the end but that is not the point, the point is to win the next day and the next day and the next day until you cannot fight no longer, the point is to give a fight. that in-itself is meaningful.
But he doesn't have shadow eyes in the dungeon during his rant?
He fused with his shadow. They're one in the same at that point. But they aren't dishonest, just distorted. They're funhouse mirror reflections of the person's true feelings.
But dying might be the best thing to happen to any of us. We only cling to life because we fear death, but none of us actually know what death actually is. We just see what appear to be its effects in our world.
Frick struggling. I'm tired.
Adachi is voiced by the 1990s Power Rangers from season 2.
He is right about certain things, certain people are born in situations where they have clear benefits others do not have. Not everybody succeeds solely to this, which is where he is wrong. Working to something does show progress, and he ultimately gave up on everything. Dude made his own gun out of spare parts in Japan, but he had talent but he wasted it. He stands to show what someone who gives up after a fall looks like.
shut up Adachi https://youtu.be/zWqtFzQU5Pg
>Working to something does show progress, and he ultimately gave up on everything.
But it doesn't though, that's the whole point. Or it's so difficult it's not even worth the effort.
>spare parts
He bought a replica and then modified it to be functional. Hardly a feat worthy of MacGyver.
homie cant even make a tie look presentable, why would i listen to anything he says
>why would i listen to anything he says
Ties are fricking stupid anyway. Why do they even exist? What actual function do they serve?
We truly do live in a society.