Now that it's been around for a few generations, how do you feel about pokemon variants?

Now that it's been around for a few generations, how do you feel about pokemon variants?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the ones that do their own thing with the mon, but the ones like Alolan Muk that completely outclass their other form just seem unfair.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SM were the only games to do them right, they felt like extra mons, just there for worldbuilding and fan service.
    Then immediately after in Gen 8 you got Pokemon that only evolved from regionals. I feel like Alolan forms vs the originals could be considered roughly on par, but shit like Obstagoon or Overqwil make the OGs feel utterly pointless.
    Paldea gives you regionals in all but name with convergents and paradox forms that on top of outclassing their originals even get a dex number now; these don’t feel like bonuses they feel like bloat, easy ways to increase that “new Pokemon” number without having to try as hard.

    If anything it’s left me feeling nostalgic for when we didn’t have these forms at all.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      regional variants were overall a mistake for the reasons gave

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with regional exclusive evolutions, they always rubbed me the wrong way. But I really like convergent forms, I can see what you mean by feeling like bloat but I feel like they're different enough to warrant it. Should've leaned more into how they went with the wiggler one, where the first stage is pretty similar but the second stage veers off way more.

      Paradox forms still feel more like flavor then actual pokemon however, I do like some of them but fact they're all mono stage despite most having evolutions feels weird.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alola did it right and made sense. Anything else after it feels forced, cheap, lazy and even more obviously gimmicky.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i feel like the same could apply to the generational gimmicks as well
      megas and z-moves felt natural but dynamax/gigantamax and tera feel forced. dmax and tera is just z-moves on steroids and gmax is just megas with red clouds hovering above the pokemon's head

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        imo megas and dmax/gmax are the only ones that felt forced and it's because they were really poorly integrated into their stories - very hamfisted. z moves aren't very important to the plot of gen 7 at all and tera is very well grounded in the plot of gen 9, to the point it actually supports the story the game is already trying to tell, while the other gimmicks spend most of their respective games stepping on the toes of any narrative the games are trying to get across. megas in particular were really, really bad about this and basically overshadowed any plot XY AND ORAS had.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Megas forced them to open the whole multiple timelines can of worms kek

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I actually like them. I even like the convergent evolution ones like Wugtrio and Toedscruel.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      toedscruel would be much better if it changed the design more to look like an actual mushroom and just tentacruel with a new color scheme. cool idea, lazy execution

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Toedscruell is great and I dont get why people dont like it.

        It would go a long way if they replaced the red gem motif with something completely different to give it some more identity. I think a texture on the cap would look cool. Real mushrooms have lots of different textures and colours, so they could have done anything really. Perhaps a palette-swapped fly amanita texture or something, idk.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They should honestly do more spinda kinda things with Pokemons, could be cool.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If only they stopped kanto wanking with them and remembered there's over 850 over pokemon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kanto derangement syndrome strikes again

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are based as frick because they made some autist spam this board for months.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What? QRD please?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        go to archive and search for "mistake"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's good because it makes somebody i don't like made
      shill mentality

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cry about it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are based as frick because they made some autist spam this board for months.

        >it's good because it makes somebody i don't like mad

        Absolutely based

        If only they stopped kanto wanking with them and remembered there's over 850 over pokemon

        >Only two kantomons
        paradoxes... I kneel

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i loved these from day one, fantastic worldbuilding and a great way to expand on existing ideas while giving each new region a bit of identity, all while reflecting real world ecology. regional forms, regional evolutions, and now convergent mons - they're all great additions and i wouldn't want a new game without them.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based when it's just random mons getting variants
    very cringe when it's regional exclusive evo stuff or like meowth or diglett where it's such blatant kanto pandering they did it twice

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the new golem looks like shit

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It peaked here

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the version exclusive forms are great but the standard pure fighting form does not need to exist at all

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just sems like they went to Pokemon that Game Freak wanted to do something cool with but the higher ups didn't consider them worthy of getting super saiyan forms like megas or real buffs so they got recolored cousins instead.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Variations of old mons were bound to happen eventually and Pokémon handled it the best possible way by making them about differences in environment. I always look forward to seeing the new ones.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hate them
    The laziest designs on the entire franchise

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still hate them. Just make new Pokémon and give the old ones upgrades

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only hate Sirfetch'd because it should've been just a MegaFarfetch'd - and Madame would've been a better fitting regional evo for it in a Britbong-inspired region.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this half baked betamon wouldn't have been better than sirfetch'd under any circumstance

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just say you're a homosexual

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ok, you're a homosexual

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They went to shit after the first time they were introduced just like cross-gen evolutions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      johto's crossgens are worse than sinnoh's

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Johto had the excuse of being born during the ground zero of Game Freak’s KANTOOOO obsession and being stuck as KANTOOOO’s backyard. every Gen 2 cross evo would be decent as part of its own family instead of being haphazardly attached to a KANTOOOO line it had nothing to do with. Sinnoh evos are just ugly and fat.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seek help.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sinnoh evos are just ugly and fat
          meds

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            literally uglier and fatter than the original

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              weavile is ugly bro

              she’s beautiful and better than the original

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            weavile is ugly bro

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just looking at Eeveelutions alone the Johto ones are some of the most liked and the Sinnoh ones are some of the least liked. You also have Scizor and Crobat which are very popular. The Sinnoh ones pale in comparison.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          who the hell doesn't like Leafeon & Glaceon i'll kill em

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like them and I hope one day we will get dex made JUST with variants

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Toedscruell is great and I dont get why people dont like it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It looks too much like Tentacruel. When I look at it I don't see 'Mushroom', I see 'Walking Jellyfish'.
      I do like it because Tentacruel is already an intrinsically good design, but I think they totally botched the execution all the convergents.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because it looks moronic and like it was made in a lunch break

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Toeds are perfect, they just had the misery of representing a new gimmick alongside Diglett/Dugtrio 3.0 and later, the teas but again. Such a wasted concept.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would have prefered the cnvergant gyarados tbtbh with you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nice numbers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t-thanks you too

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like em, but the whole regional evolution was poorly executed, because instead of making them an alternative, they become a stright upgrade that leaves you wondering why would you want the original if it cannot evolve.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are great.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I'm surprised it took as long as it did. Pokemon being different depending on the climate seems so obvious in hindsight. There's some pokemon that I don't care for but some where the regional form became my favorite version of them. They definitely front loaded too many gen 1 variants though.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alola did it the best given the excuse of an isolated island chain. Other than that, the Hisui ones were mostly okay. Gigasalmon, ursaluna, wyrdeer, and stellar’s sea eagle braviary really fit well. Although, I guess you could chock most of that up to good crossgen evolutions locked behind regional forms. Especially since Sinnoh didn’t really take advantage of being based on Hokkaido at all. Galar and Paldea weren’t great. Felt like just having them to have them. Sirfetch’d was cool though. Also what they did with the Kanto birds was kinda weird. Call them regional forms but have the dex imply that they’re just named after the Kanto birds for being mistaken for them by Galarians.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're cool.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Easily my favorite part of the series currently.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Digimon knock off.
    But I still like it

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shit way to pad out a pokedex. Just take an existing pokemon, give it a slightly different color or additional feature, and fans will gobble it up.

    >It's a Ninetales... BUT WHITE!

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The last good idea in Pokemon but most of the pokemon that got it, didn't deserve it

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly introducing alt evolutions to seperate forms is a really cool idea that I wish sv expanded on more past clodsire but as a mechanic its alright
    its neat from a world building standpoint but for inbattle purposes its all over the place

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