Now that it's been around for a few generations, how do you feel about pokemon variants?
Now that it's been around for a few generations, how do you feel about pokemon variants?
Now that it's been around for a few generations, how do you feel about pokemon variants?
I like the ones that do their own thing with the mon, but the ones like Alolan Muk that completely outclass their other form just seem unfair.
SM were the only games to do them right, they felt like extra mons, just there for worldbuilding and fan service.
Then immediately after in Gen 8 you got Pokemon that only evolved from regionals. I feel like Alolan forms vs the originals could be considered roughly on par, but shit like Obstagoon or Overqwil make the OGs feel utterly pointless.
Paldea gives you regionals in all but name with convergents and paradox forms that on top of outclassing their originals even get a dex number now; these don’t feel like bonuses they feel like bloat, easy ways to increase that “new Pokemon” number without having to try as hard.
If anything it’s left me feeling nostalgic for when we didn’t have these forms at all.
regional variants were overall a mistake for the reasons gave
I agree with regional exclusive evolutions, they always rubbed me the wrong way. But I really like convergent forms, I can see what you mean by feeling like bloat but I feel like they're different enough to warrant it. Should've leaned more into how they went with the wiggler one, where the first stage is pretty similar but the second stage veers off way more.
Paradox forms still feel more like flavor then actual pokemon however, I do like some of them but fact they're all mono stage despite most having evolutions feels weird.
Alola did it right and made sense. Anything else after it feels forced, cheap, lazy and even more obviously gimmicky.
i feel like the same could apply to the generational gimmicks as well
megas and z-moves felt natural but dynamax/gigantamax and tera feel forced. dmax and tera is just z-moves on steroids and gmax is just megas with red clouds hovering above the pokemon's head
imo megas and dmax/gmax are the only ones that felt forced and it's because they were really poorly integrated into their stories - very hamfisted. z moves aren't very important to the plot of gen 7 at all and tera is very well grounded in the plot of gen 9, to the point it actually supports the story the game is already trying to tell, while the other gimmicks spend most of their respective games stepping on the toes of any narrative the games are trying to get across. megas in particular were really, really bad about this and basically overshadowed any plot XY AND ORAS had.
Megas forced them to open the whole multiple timelines can of worms kek
I actually like them. I even like the convergent evolution ones like Wugtrio and Toedscruel.
toedscruel would be much better if it changed the design more to look like an actual mushroom and just tentacruel with a new color scheme. cool idea, lazy execution
It would go a long way if they replaced the red gem motif with something completely different to give it some more identity. I think a texture on the cap would look cool. Real mushrooms have lots of different textures and colours, so they could have done anything really. Perhaps a palette-swapped fly amanita texture or something, idk.
They should honestly do more spinda kinda things with Pokemons, could be cool.
If only they stopped kanto wanking with them and remembered there's over 850 over pokemon
Kanto derangement syndrome strikes again
They are based as frick because they made some autist spam this board for months.
What? QRD please?
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>it's good because it makes somebody i don't like made
shill mentality
cry about it
>it's good because it makes somebody i don't like mad
Absolutely based
>Only two kantomons
paradoxes... I kneel
i loved these from day one, fantastic worldbuilding and a great way to expand on existing ideas while giving each new region a bit of identity, all while reflecting real world ecology. regional forms, regional evolutions, and now convergent mons - they're all great additions and i wouldn't want a new game without them.
based when it's just random mons getting variants
very cringe when it's regional exclusive evo stuff or like meowth or diglett where it's such blatant kanto pandering they did it twice
I think the new golem looks like shit
It peaked here
the version exclusive forms are great but the standard pure fighting form does not need to exist at all
just sems like they went to Pokemon that Game Freak wanted to do something cool with but the higher ups didn't consider them worthy of getting super saiyan forms like megas or real buffs so they got recolored cousins instead.
Variations of old mons were bound to happen eventually and Pokémon handled it the best possible way by making them about differences in environment. I always look forward to seeing the new ones.
hate them
The laziest designs on the entire franchise
Still hate them. Just make new Pokémon and give the old ones upgrades
I only hate Sirfetch'd because it should've been just a MegaFarfetch'd - and Madame would've been a better fitting regional evo for it in a Britbong-inspired region.
this half baked betamon wouldn't have been better than sirfetch'd under any circumstance
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They went to shit after the first time they were introduced just like cross-gen evolutions.
johto's crossgens are worse than sinnoh's
Johto had the excuse of being born during the ground zero of Game Freak’s KANTOOOO obsession and being stuck as KANTOOOO’s backyard. every Gen 2 cross evo would be decent as part of its own family instead of being haphazardly attached to a KANTOOOO line it had nothing to do with. Sinnoh evos are just ugly and fat.
Seek help.
>Sinnoh evos are just ugly and fat
meds
literally uglier and fatter than the original
she’s beautiful and better than the original
weavile is ugly bro
Just looking at Eeveelutions alone the Johto ones are some of the most liked and the Sinnoh ones are some of the least liked. You also have Scizor and Crobat which are very popular. The Sinnoh ones pale in comparison.
who the hell doesn't like Leafeon & Glaceon i'll kill em
I like them and I hope one day we will get dex made JUST with variants
Toedscruell is great and I dont get why people dont like it.
It looks too much like Tentacruel. When I look at it I don't see 'Mushroom', I see 'Walking Jellyfish'.
I do like it because Tentacruel is already an intrinsically good design, but I think they totally botched the execution all the convergents.
because it looks moronic and like it was made in a lunch break
The Toeds are perfect, they just had the misery of representing a new gimmick alongside Diglett/Dugtrio 3.0 and later, the teas but again. Such a wasted concept.
I would have prefered the cnvergant gyarados tbtbh with you
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I like em, but the whole regional evolution was poorly executed, because instead of making them an alternative, they become a stright upgrade that leaves you wondering why would you want the original if it cannot evolve.
They are great.
Honestly I'm surprised it took as long as it did. Pokemon being different depending on the climate seems so obvious in hindsight. There's some pokemon that I don't care for but some where the regional form became my favorite version of them. They definitely front loaded too many gen 1 variants though.
Alola did it the best given the excuse of an isolated island chain. Other than that, the Hisui ones were mostly okay. Gigasalmon, ursaluna, wyrdeer, and stellar’s sea eagle braviary really fit well. Although, I guess you could chock most of that up to good crossgen evolutions locked behind regional forms. Especially since Sinnoh didn’t really take advantage of being based on Hokkaido at all. Galar and Paldea weren’t great. Felt like just having them to have them. Sirfetch’d was cool though. Also what they did with the Kanto birds was kinda weird. Call them regional forms but have the dex imply that they’re just named after the Kanto birds for being mistaken for them by Galarians.
They're cool.
Easily my favorite part of the series currently.
Digimon knock off.
But I still like it
Shit way to pad out a pokedex. Just take an existing pokemon, give it a slightly different color or additional feature, and fans will gobble it up.
>It's a Ninetales... BUT WHITE!
The last good idea in Pokemon but most of the pokemon that got it, didn't deserve it
honestly introducing alt evolutions to seperate forms is a really cool idea that I wish sv expanded on more past clodsire but as a mechanic its alright
its neat from a world building standpoint but for inbattle purposes its all over the place