Now that M*nia is officially dead and buried, Let's have an honest discussion on how much of a blemish this shitstain was on discourse among the fanbase.
Now that M*nia is officially dead and buried, Let's have an honest discussion on how much of a blemish this shitstain was on discourse among the ...
Mania is a textbook example of Forced Soul, but Forced Soul is better than Soulless.
Mania was the best. Sonic 4 was forced soul, and it paid the price.
>Sonic 4 was forced soul
Nothing about Shitstain 4 was anything but soulless
It was literally an attempt to “bring back the golden days of 2D sonic”. They were trying to force what we loved about the good games but failed in every way.
>They were trying to force what we loved about the good games but failed in every way.
Are you from the alternate universe where Sonic Mania didn't see critical and commercial success and universal praise among fans or are you one of those contrarians who act really smug because "you know better than everyone else"?
pretty sure they were talking about 4
Oh I thought that was OP.
>Now that M*nia is officially dead and buried, Let's have an honest discussion on how much of a blemish this shitstain was on discourse among the fanbase.
Are you from the alternate universe where Sonic Mania didn't see critical and commercial success and universal praise among fans or are you one of those contrarians who act really smug because "you know better than everyone else"?
There we go.
Wrong
Thanks, I've been looking for this image for a while now. Didn't save it when I had the chance.
Pic not related
The thread about making up buzzwords is up right now, you troglodyte.
06 is UberSoul now.
>now
This on emu? If so which one?
there's only one. xenia runs it fine now for the most part. it has working shadows now but you still need to refresh the cache sometimes.
Just play P06. Even with mods the original doesn't compare.
The most legendary Webm on this site, whenever you see it, good fortune and luck is said to come your way
Pic unrelated. Sonic 2006 3D renders are some of the most soulful things the series has ever produced.
>Sonic Adventure 2 is being adapted to film
>it will sell like crazy
>there will be more sonic movies
Mephiles the Dark will be the antagonist of a major blockbuster film in your lifetime.
they will not do sonic adventure 2 justice anon itll just be another "umm, he's right behind me isn't he?" tier movie
Shadow and Gerald are actually extremely dark characters and if they're played straight would REALLY make the tone of a sonic movie a lot darker
can we please remember what happens to Sonic when it tries to get "dark"
>posts fanart
no, Shadow was a dark character. His goal was to kill everyone undeserving of Maria's love since Maria was killed by GUN in fear of Shadow.
no, Snivley was a dark character. he was constantly abused and finally snapped, killing his own uncle just so he could finally have everything for himself and subjugate all animals
donut lord is gonna be on the arc anon they will not play it straight
when geralds transmission ends they're gonna ask what he wants for his last meal and he's gonna say olive garden
I can see why a good game in a series full of bad games could cause the difference to show up in sharper relief, sure.
i'm gonna be real
i still haven't really touched mania because i felt like i all ready played it in 2013
If you've played the original trilogy, you already experienced all of it. Mania is a rehash praised by normalgays who haven't played Sonic in decades.
to be fair, sonic hasn't had the best track record in decades
>If you've played the original trilogy, you already experienced all of it.
>trilogy
>experienced all of it
You don't even know what you're talking about, you stupid homosexual.
have a nice day.
>bland levels filled with dishonest nostalgiabait (dude, they referenced the hecking popcorn maker! so epic) and filled with rehashed gimmicks
>good
The state of Maniatards.
Again, you don't even know what you're talking about and just spewing buzzwords.
How can you experience all of Mania by just playing Sonic trilogy when CD is a thing and there are original bosses and zones?
I suggest you to stop talking about games you never played.
>dishonest
What does that even mean to you? How can nostalgia be a lie? It either is or is not nostalgic.
>dude, they referenced the hecking popcorn maker! so epic
This but unironically.
>all those angry replies
Mania is reddit pandering and I'm tired of pretending its not.
Mania is anti-reddit.
>dude, they referenced the hecking popcorn maker! so epic
This but unironically. Mania was a fanservice game. As a FAN, I fricking loved it. As a moronic NON-FAN, you can't stand it.
Mania was one of the best games in years, not one of the best Sonic games in years, one of the best GAMES in years. Frontiers is fun. Unleashed Project and Project 06 are soulful as frick. Superstars looks great. Sonic's future looks bright because Frontiers was good enough that Sega agreed to actually fund big budget Sonic games again.
tell me why the popcorn maker reference is actually not epic, I dare you
Mania had only three or four original zones out of like 13. It's just blatant nostgalia filled memberberry bait. The game is the purest definition of forced soul.
Go back to 2017 where all you had was Boomshit before your
Precious MaNiA
exactly. It would have been a little better if only the first 3 levels were throwbacks and the rest was new, but they put too many oldies in. It's true purpose was to introduce kids to the fact that 2d sonic is good.
The rehashing would have been better if it was followed in 2019 or 2020 with a fully original gamed but Sega shat the bed as per usual...
>Implying Mania is even close to on par with the actual classics
The weird garden zone is okay, honestly they should've packaged the original zones together, called it Sonic 5 or something, and just let it be a short game. Replaying random shit in between the new zones sucks ass.
Are there any mods that remove the retro zones?
Mania was originally intended to be a short bonus game packed-in with what would have basically been Sonic Origins.
moronicly insubstantial analysis
mania has a fantastic mix of speed and exploration
the exploration does not "cut off" the speed, it's there if you want to explore or you can skip it, but both are fun
if you choose to engage with it, the exploration is more well integrated with each other than 3&K by far
you can actually explore WHILE going fast better than any 2D sonic game
crouching/looking animations do not interfere with the controls in any way, this is beyond nitpicking, utterly moronic
the controls feel even smoother and more responsive than ever thanks to improving things like the speed cap, blocking control after hitting walls, etc etc
sonic is not out of character at all, he basically jumps around and beats up badniks and looks cool, what more is there? and who cares about characterization in a game like this anyway, skip cutscenes if you don't like them and play the damn game
the music remixes sound better than the original versions, without exception
anti-true post top to bottom
>Reddit spacing
Episode 32432432422 of Ganker being completely out of their depth when discussing level design or mechanics. It's why you see so much fixation on 'soul'; when you're this bad at video games, art direction is the only thing you feel have to talk about.
If you haven't touched it, how would you know how it compares to AtS?
i played until you select mighty or ray. i selected ray. was that the wrong choice? cuz there did not seem to be a way to progress afterwards. meanwhile, you play ATS as you would a Sonic game. also the soundtrack is so fricking good that mania had to have it.
but still, when i first played ATS i thought "this is good. i'm glad someone figured out Sonic again."
it only took Sega four years to catch on.
>cuz there did not seem to be a way to progress afterwards.
I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. You got stuck in a stage as Ray? Why?
>also the soundtrack is so fricking good that mania had to have it.
Tee Lopes did a great job with Mania. Not sure why that's a strike against it.
>it only took Sega four years to catch on.
Yeah, Sega blows. But it was made externally with just some oversight. If you hate Sonic Team there's no real reason to take it out on Mania and not experience it.
>Why?
i will literally have to look up a guide to tell you. i don't know. i don't know if the game glitched or if i was supposed to know a move or what. i haven't really tried since.
>a strike against it.
It's not against Mania, it's a mark for AtS. Funk Fiction gave some wonderful tracks.
i don't think i hate Sonic Team, i remember the bangers. i just felt like "a sonic game, but good" was a concept all ready explored before Mania came along. i will try again, though. maybe even today.
>i don't know if the game glitched or if i was supposed to know a move or what.
I guess that's not impossible. Mania's initial launch was a little buggy. I thought they got that shit under control by Plus, though.
Yeah by all means, give it another go. You don't have to love it more than AtS but I bet you'll at least enjoy your time with it.
sorry, apparently text walkthroughs for the game don't exist, and the LP i found on youtube picked mighty instead, so idk
Maybe your game did glitch out. I bet it would clear up even if you chose Ray again.
You can beat every stage of Mania with every character. As far as I know, only Knuckles has alternate stages literally made for him alone. How did you get stuck, playing as Ray, a character who has additional mobility above and beyond Sonic, second only to Tails in what a cheat he is to get around? Seriously, don't leave me hanging. How were you unable to proceed with the character who can glide better than knuckles?
see
ok fine jesus i'm going to go to gamefaqs and find out what happened
You're supposed to use Ray's flight to get to the next screen. If you picked Mighty then you'd have to use his ability to smash through the floor. Your game isn't bugges, the game just wants you to get used to each character first before moving on.
so, he doesn't gain height like a super cape from mario world, there did not seem to be a "glide higher" button i tried them all, and the normal jumps do not seem to get him high enough to reach the ledge. what do?
you just need to get enough speed and then pull back to go high enough
like this
https://www.youtube.com/live/8PAL9q90MvQ?feature=share&t=385
by the way you are fricking unbelievably moronic and need to have a nice day immediately
this is fricking cuphead game journo shit
also how the frick are you unable to find a walkthrough
good lord
Game jlurnalist moment
Mania is a rehash anniversary game anyway but fans loved it because before it, all they had was BoomTrash and Mobile Filler Garbage
And in some cases Mania makes old levels worse to play, pic definitely related
this
the bubble gimmick fricking sucks in the game gear games, it sucks in mania, and it sucks in triple trouble 16 bit.
Pretty much every level except the S3K ones are better in Mania, and that's because S3K's mechanics and level design philosophies are god tier and retroactively make every old level way better.
I don't give a frick about sonic, or mania. I hope everyone trying to force this meme unironically gets a lobotomy with a shot gun. That is all.
Why do zoomers put asterisks in words? Is it a twitter thing?
tumblr SJW thing, it lets them say naughty no-no words without actually saying it. It eventually morphed into a way to show something is a bad meanie word.
I think frontiers did more harm to the fanbase, the standards are at an all time low
Are we still pretending that Frontiers was bad?
>random platforms, springs and grind rails pop in over a bland, boring environment
>airborne animations rigidly adhering to the angle you dismounted from
Pretending?
Apologize.
>water reflection literally disappears when any foreground object is near it
>the same vertically stacked, basically 2D level design of the boost games, but we placed it between two chunks of open world nothingness
No.
>water reflection literally disappears when any foreground object is near it
Its called optimization anon.
>forced along the path even when midair
>can only shift left and right
My guy you just posted a Temple Run clone.
Are the highlights of this game really barely on par with a 2011 phone app?
>Empty default Unity assets world
>Half of the map was cut due to time constraints
>Pop in and downgraded graphics because they made it for the Switch and didn't bother to upgrade it back for other consoles and PC
>No physics whatsoever
>Lame combat system that amounts to watching cutscenes until the HP goes down
>You can generate infinite rings by running circles at any time
>Finally add Spindash back but lock it behind 100% a dumb side challenge you won't complete on a first playthrough
>Copy paste level design from old games for real levels
>Ian's moronic writing, self-inserts and retcon attempts
>Roger's worst performance yet
People rating this over 5/10 when it's just barely a tech demo proves to me average IQ is dropping more than any study could.
>Roger's worst performance yet
Holy shit is it that bad? Worse than Lost World? Worse than fricking Colours?
>Pop in and downgraded graphics because they made it for the Switch and didn't bother to upgrade it back for other consoles and PC
this is the biggest crime with the game.
its not on the same level as Sonic Boom but there's a lot in this game left to be desired and playing it on PS5, its so obvious that the Switch ended up gutting a lot of what could have been a good game because that underpowered piece of shit wouldn't have been able to run half of the ideas the Sonic Team wanted to include.
also, I liked Ian but I don't appreciate the retcon or the implication that the Emerald's are somehow from outer space and the only reason Sonic is able to use it is because he 'might' be alien himself. Not interesting storytelling imo.
>also, I liked Ian
You need to be pretty observant to spot his bullshit. He's crafty at sneaking in his personal political agendas, I'll give him that.
>but I don't appreciate the retcon or the implication that the Emerald's are somehow from outer space and the only reason Sonic is able to use it is because he 'might' be alien himself. Not interesting storytelling imo.
It's because he doesn't want any mysticism or God-related things in the series besides maybe quirky and hamfisted witchcraft with Amy. Wants to remove divine intervention concepts and replace them with "science".
>that image
>your text
what a fricking snake. i knew there was something about Frontiers that rubbed me the wrong way (even if its not the worst game out there).
Now I know why.Tyvm anon.
He also can't really write for crap. Like in IDW during the zombot arc.
>First established Shadow can Chaos Control without an Emerald while fighting Sonic
>Then acknowledge Shadow is immune to diseases
>Lastly, confirms that even if Shadow get infected he can run it off like Sonic can.
What happens? Shadow gets surrounded and infected anyway. Why? Because he logically should? No. Because having a backup Sonic running around would ruin the drama in the arc.
A good writer would have given Shadow some other role or written him out convincingly, but Ian doesn't really care about that. Just writes what he wants and throws a couple of references every 3 paragraphs or so to keep the seals clapping happily.
Eggman has it pretty bad imo. You go back to the Adventure games and he always feels threatening. From his voice, his lines, his artwork... He's the villain and he acts like it.
Now, between Pollock's grandpa-tier readings, the soft 3D renders and Ian's whole "muh daughter" sympathy thing he's more cuddly than Tails!
Pollock did a super good job as the wacky Boom Eggman. Perfect casting. But yeah, in mainline series, Deem Bristow was the ideal Eggman. voice... menacing and laced with malice. Willing to overthrow every government and take over the world with a gun pointed at its figurative head, not unlike what he literally did with Amy.
SA2 Eggman is peak Eggman, same with Rouge and Shadow
>Ian doesn't really care about that. Just writes what he wants and throws a couple of references every 3 paragraphs or so to keep the seals clapping happily.
Also if anyone complains just blame "mandates" that you'll never disclose so we can evaluate things properly.
Fully agree.
This is so out of character for Eggman. Like, why would he care about something else's preference? Do you think he goes down his production line of robots asking "ROBOT, WHAT ARE YOUR PRONOUNS?" No, if he built it with eyelashes, it's a girl, and if not, it's a boy. Get your agenda in check, Ian. It's literally negatively impacting the product now.
Muh Budget
Bump
However this was still a free game at the end of the day
Frontiers is forced soul.
Frontiers is organic soul.
>tries to imitate nuZelda (the obvious declination point of the series)
>slaps Sonic OC stuff on top of it while imitating the minimalist millennial shit botw/totictok tried pushing
>still desperately calls Frontiers "organic soul".
You're not a Sonic fan.
Jesus that's fricking bad.
>all that pop in
>those random ass floating rails
LMAO this game looks like some fanboys shitty little pet project. I don't care if you find it fun it still looks that awful. Doesn't look like its even an officially released game at all. That isn't a good look. AT ALL
that looks like what sonic '06 should've been. it looks and runs like an early ps3 game too
"Forced soul" meet "intentional moronation." A good game is only a good game. No, it shouldn't be blamed for anything that came later. No, it shouldn't be blamed for turbo-spergs who are too vocal about their love and hate for other things. A game is an inanimate thing. It is incapable of making decisions or willfully "causing" anything. So why would you "blame" it for anything?
Games are willfully designed. They are works by their creators
Exactly. And then once they are made, they stand alone. A self-contained experience. The developers can make decisions to go on and make shitty, low effort copies. But you don't blame the good game for that, now do you? Well, you don't if you're intelligent and not a kneejerk reactionary.
Dishonest shitposting.
>Safe Core
I have no idea what that means making it the perfect buzzword.
>troony Soul
So the Doom 3 levels in Hell?
Don't turn around and try to make this random brainrot seem sensical. It's like ruining the point of the image that none of that matters. Doom 3 is bad, but it's not "troony" anything.
I meant that Doom 3's hell levels are where troony souls go when they AACK themselves.
>Safe Core
What does that mean? Sounds like some kind of aesthetic
hello, fellow birthday twin
>Forced Ludo
The frick is Ludo?
Same. My birthday is tomorrow and I have no idea what that is.
It's like "kino" but for gameplay instead of story.
It's what
said.
It's a Kojima thing that became popular with the Zoom-Zooms when he was promoting Walking Simulator back then.
troony horny, kek
thats Discord description
>fake soul
so just super mario wonder then
>Safe-Like
So... A game that's trying to be safe but still has unsafe elements in it?
>Safe Pilled
HUH
Happy birthday anon!
>Manufactured Core
I have no clue what this means
Either corporations made an entire genre for consooming or just another version of souless
>ludosoul
only soulful in gameplay and not presentation
frick off Mario shill.
what kind of birthday combination is "frick off Mario shill."?
A good one.
>Cringe-Pilled
I do in fact love Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06, you got me there.
>Safe Horny
Oh frick not again.
>Kinosoul
kneel motherfrickers
>Artificial-esque.
Any examples?
Oh cool! We have the same birthday!
Kind of a lame buzzword though. Like is it artificial or not?
Youre a fricking stalker honest 2 god
bismuth
>Fake Horny
>Manufacturedcore
>Honest horny
Guilty as charged
>goy kino
>Safe Ludo
Sonic Superstars is the epitome of safe ludo. They're just retreading an exact clone of well loved physics from 30 year old games. You should play unsafe ludo like Deadly Premonition that challenges players to reexamine their definitions of "fun".
>They're just retreading an exact clone of well loved physics from 30 year old games
So... Mania?
It's the same engine as Mania, so yes, they are both Safe Ludo.
Gig
Ludpilled. But, please, don’t post this again. It’s just going to put more ideas in their (tiny) heads. There’s already a few combinations in there that I could see them latching on to.
Fake Lude
Frick off data miner glowgay
mercs, now
>Kino Trash
Idk what game applies here, so can someone name that game for me?
yiik
Liminal Trash
do with this information what you will cia agent
>honestslop
>Horny Manufactured
Isn't that just "lust-provoking image"?
Manufactured ludo.
God it sound real
Goyslop
Goy Pilled LOOOL
Soul was never real.
It was always real, the point of this current psyop is to confuse you.
>psyop
It's more likely just Ganker being Ganker and retaliating against attempts to recapture well-made olden style games in modern day by making up words that dismiss them. Maybe zoomers are mad people acknowledging old games are better, maybe oldgays are mad that these new ones aren't literally their childhood. Probably both.
Soul is a word that’s getting thrown around a lot like fricking candy, ever since the Wondrous Reveal, Soul is a hell of a drug
mania is good and the opinions of sonicgays don't matter
Where does that leave me then?
Classic Amy: Soul
Modern Classic Amy: Soulless
I love this style for old Sonic art. Looks airbrushed
I want to LIKE Mania but I just can't
It has beautiful artstyle, beautiful sprite work and beautiful music but the gameplay is just something else...
The whole game drags out for far too long, maybe it's the levels being so huge and all the mini bosses taking a bit to defeat
The worst thing about pacing is if you stop and do "Blue Spheres" every time you are able at the lamp posts. I didn't even end up caring about the unlocks it granted, it's not worth it. Just play the real game.
Oh yeah I forgot about those, 100% does ruin the pacing completely
forced hatred
cute squid
1 > 2 = 3 > CD > K > M
>1 the best
Trying too hard to be an OG. 2 and 3K are blatant upgrades to pacing and fun. 1 slammed on the brakes at the second zone, and then further made things miserable in Labyrinth. And to be honest I'm not wild about Spring Yard or Starlight. What even is left? Scrap Brain is kind of neat I guess.
>not grey
Ruined
>being a greygay
Pathetic
1 is not the best. The series literally got better over time. 2 is better than one. S&K is better than 2. Mania is a rehash so it doesn't count.
I'd say 2 is better than 3, which is carried entirely by &Knuckles.
3 is carried by 3
Knuckles is the one that's not as great
3 has a lot of pretty bad zones.
Only Marble zone
Rest are good
Carnival Night sucks too.
Nonsense. Only Carnival Night Act 2 is bad, because how long it drags on.
Triple Trouble 16 Bit, Advance Trilogy/Rush Duology, Knuckles Chaotix >>>>>>>> all of those you listed
I have a schizo theory about Press Garten
>Mania was supposed to be fully original zones until Sonic Team pulled Sonic Team
>Press Garden Acts 1 and 2 are vastly different from eachother, Especially in the badnik department
>Press Garden itself is oddly named "Pulp Solstice" in the files for some reason
>Several unused mechanics in Act 1's debug mode that totally could've worked for an ACT 2 gimmick ( https://youtu.be/Nbed_pTmTlo )
I think "Pulp Soltice" and "Press Garden" were originally two full separate zones. Pulp being the Printing Press and Press being the Snowy Paper Dumpster you'd play after beating Pulp. But were crunched together during development for unexplained reasons.
I believe it.
We could've had that cool tech if they made all original zones but Iizuka had to say "no no, makeu green hill zhone and brring bak orld zone"
It has said in multiple interviews that, when pitching the project, the team only had the idea for 4 levels in mind, and it was Takashi Iizuka's idea to add previous levels to extend the game's length, otherwise it would be too short. If anything, Iizuka actually saved the game.
Soul = made for passion first profit second
Soulless = made for profit first and foremost passion second.
Can't force soul
>Soul = made for passion first profit second
So no retail game, ever?
bro, your reading comprehension
bro your WOOOSH
I just beat Mania again yesterday
3&K > Mania > 1 > 2 > CD
why did they remove casino night zone in mania and replace it with that weird tv station level?
why is the music different?
>Yet another terminally online Gankercel buzzword that is getting forced everywhere
I hate you gays so much it's unreal
Same. This shit is the fricking worst. Half of this board is unreadable.
How else would you describe M*nia in one or two words then? Forced soul is the best description of M*nia there is
Good game.
it's the kind of thing that really shows that despite how many people supposedly come here thread/posts are made by a small enough number of people that the few that make dozens of obviously similar shitposts stick out extremely bad
like aside from this there's that fricker on the autistic crusade against paper mario ever since origami king got flak and is also very obviously the same guy who make those threads with the "earthbound inspired rpg" gif of buzz or pop team epic or sometimes about whichever nintendo youtuber he dislikes
if you start to look between the lines you notice just how many single focus forever online tards there are on here and how disproportionately large of an effect they have by virtue of Ganker being significantly smaller in population than popularly assumed
>that guy calling nsmb new soup over and over
oh frick that's a guy?
he's gotten me into doing it
ah frick me, i've become him
>forced soul
I hate this shitty buzzword like you wouldn't believe, it makes zero sense. A game either has soul or it doesn't.
>ITS FORCED SOUL
Okay, homosexual memewords aside there was something about the aesthetic of Mania that did seem forced. I guess it was too jumpy and expressive in comparison to the trilogy's straight forward tone. Instead of jungles and industrial zones, you get stuff like Studiopolis. It was my least favorite stage.
Oh my god is this bullshit buzzword chaos actually trying to invade sonic now
can you autistic morons holding onto kusoge like frontiers go fricking play through the spark the electric jester trilogy already?
How did this happen?
I dont really like the way the image is edited, i dont know if it gets the point across, but this is what I had come up with.
I also thought of calling both the modern sonic and the right sonic "sonic" and having the left be left as Classic Sonic.
v2
Sonic > Classic Sonic > Modern Sonic
cringe
Remember when Sonic was just Sonic?
The sonic that appears in the middle, the one that appears in games like Shadow and 06, cannot and will not be the same Sonic as the one on the right. Middle Sonic is AU Sonic from a timeline without Oshima's direct vision and was snatched by some homosexual that's currently locked up in jap jail.
Real Sonic is Oshima's Sonic. So neither left nor middle.
Forced Memes aren’t not funny
is forced soul a moronic meme?
will Ganker ever stop making moronic buzzwords
Will the modern shitbase cope that classic Sonic is superior in every way and will just frick off from the franchise forever or will at least cope and stick to their shit side of the franchise away from real Sonic fans?
“Forced Soul” fits Superstars way more than Mania
Superstars is more dishonest soul.
Neither of them are anywhere near as dishonest and slimy as Mario Wonder.
I like Sonic Mania because it has TTs for every stage & character combination.
That being said, it was mid. The level design is kind of gay at parts.
forced soul is when a game has undeniable soul but gays don’t want to admit it
I fricking knew it, here i was cumming to the purple anime waifu not knowing anything ever
It was a romhack, and not even a particularly good one at that. I get that Sonic fans are starved for good games, but the Mania dick sucking was just pathetic. Even with their flaws, Forces and Frontiers still had more soul than Mania did. I hope Superstars ends up being kino so that Maniagays shut up for good.
Your Frontiers shill thread and this one is dogshit, go have a nice day.
Mania is quite literally the only good thing to come out of the Sonic franchise since the late 90s.
"Nooooo you can't intentionally design games around things we like!! That makes it forced!!"
Jesus frick just be thankful that they are even trying cause they really don't have to.
>That makes it forced!!
Actually, yeah.
The point was that "forcing" an art style or what have ypu that is well-liked is a goos thing, not a bad thing, even if it doesn't quite line-up with expectations.
>trying
dangling keys in front of someone shouting "DO YOU REMEMBER THE 90S?" isn't trying
That's only good Sonic to come out of this shitfest. It was the only time that maybe outsiders could take Sonic more seriously as a gaming icon. I see it returned to being trash with Sonic Boretiers.
i hate seeing any mention of resused zones regarding mania
it's just the stupidest fricking complaint ever. They are the same zone as the classics in practically name only. They look different, have more mechanics, have different layout, have different music...
The fanbase IS the blemish on discourse.
Is hating Mania some epic new contrarian meme?
I bet he reports back to some circlejerk discord where he brags about trolling Sonic fans or something. Or maybe the (You)'s are enough.
Some Adventure/Moderngays still can't cope with Classic being the most consistently loved part of Sonic.
Okay so I haven't played a single sonic game after 3&K. Redpill me on this.
The forced soul of Mania:
>Sonic doing a 360 spin on the title screen
>Studiopolis having references to shit only the biggest autists would know like SEGA popcorn
>Trying to hard to be a Saturn game
>Shoehorning in legacy characters like Bean the duck even though it makes no sense with the story
>le wacky bosses like dr. robotnik playing puyo puyo
and more
All soul in man-made creations is forced soul, you could also call it willed soul.
Tendie please. Mania is straight soul because fans made it. Whereas Mario Wonder is corporate millenialslop
I will now proceed to filter your md5 and never see your thread again. Thank you.
thank god atleast mania isn't boll deluxe, boll deluxe devs are fricking moronic and they covered up the fact they had a pedophile on their team and at the same time have a minor on their team who publicly admits to wanting to have sex with azumanga daioh characters, very fricked up
Sonic is really the only franchise where fans scream and piss in anger when a good game comes out and praise Sega when a bad game comes out
What the frick happened to people
Anyone who wasn't demented dropped the series with Forces, this is what remains.
"Forced soul" seems to be next innovation Ganker comes up with to categorize and analyze games huh
>cemented sonic to relying on nostalgia like a crutch alongside generations
mania did more harm than good
Mania was kino, frick you
Of course Ganker would hate the only actually good sonic game in a decade and love the dogshit ones
>us Ganker, right fellow Ganker, huh huh?
This raid is moronic.
>Forced Soul
Please shut the frick up and have a nice day with these made up terms.
Sonic Mania is probably the best 2d sonic game ever made
OP is a fsggot.