They are beautiful games. A complete upgrade over Mutttnova, which flopped and nearly killed the series.
99% of the things people b***h about in XY was started by BW, but Kalos is a good region and Gen 6 pokemon are actually nice to look at unlike the shitnova abominations all made by James Turner.
* The most forgettable Rivals/Friends/Gym Leaders/E4/Champion/Villain/Villain Team.
* Super Easy.
* The most pathetic rematches against Gym Leaders/E4/Champion.
* Only 72 new pokémon.
* Santalune forest and Viridian Forest
* Snorlax roadblock
* 12 out of 28 megas introduced in XY were kanto megas and only 1 Kalos mega (in ORAS)
* Legendary hunt only has one Kalos mon (Zygarde). It has Mewtwo and Kanto birds
* Pidgey is always the first wild encounter
* Gift Mega Kanto Starter
* Gift Mega Lucario
* Mewtwo and Zard get two megas
* Lysandre is a copy of Cyrus
* Team Flare is first encountered the exact same way as Team Rocket was, right down to picking one of two fossils
* Lysandre labs is a copy of the Rocket hideout with the spin tiles and elevator key hunt
* Poké Ball Factory shares several similarities with the Silph Co. office building in Saffron City: both places are involved in creating Poké Balls, are located in the same city or town as the sixth Gym of the region, get taken over by a villainous team at some point, and both companies' presidents reward the player with a Master Ball after driving the villainous team out of the building.
* Immigrants from or tourists to Kanto talking about how great it is
* The kalos regional dex is made up of kanto pokemon more than any other region (Kanto: 111 (24.2%), even more than fricking kalosmons who make up 15.7%)
* It created the most autistic, self-inserter and toxic anime fandom.
Shit games.
So what you're saying is that those three facts, which are bad thing, are reactions to what people didn't like about Unova? That means that Unova didn't actually have those flaws, right? not shitposting, I just genuinely want to understand your reasoning
>So what you're saying is that those three facts, which are bad thing
I never said they were bad things, nor good things. >are reactions to what people didn't like about Unova?
what they *supposed* people didn't like about Unova, yes >That means that Unova didn't actually have those flaws, right?
It means Unova handled those matters remarkably differently; dex size for example, obviously: way bigger vs way smaller. In the case of dex size, it wasn't shrinking it because they assumed people liked a smaller dex, but because, "why bother if people aren't going to like most of them", I assume
6 months ago
Anonymous
And so the spineless beta, so afraid of having to defend his statements, backs off to such an extreme degree that he's no longer saying anything of substance.
6 months ago
Anonymous
How about you learn to read and learn to think, moron?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>make statement >questioned on statement >w-well it's not good or bad! I'm not taking a side so I don't have to defend anything! A-also I only want to say what they think, which is non-falsifiable so I don't have to defend that either!! Stop questioning me, leave me alone!!!
Bitch.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>>w-well it's not good or bad!
I literally never even said nor implied they were good or bad in my very first reply you fricking moron
Christ please learn some goddamn reading comprehension
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, like I said, bottom b***h beta is afraid to take a stance and reduces his statements to such slop that they're pointless.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The original response was about BW's perceived failures, not about quality. >but if it was a failure that means it wasn't good
Okay, then Citizen Kane didn't revolutionize film-making because it did shit at the box office, good to know.
>I posted an image so you're correct criticism is somehow invalid now
Rekindled my interest in the series after BW which i thought was weird. Didn't like that 2.5D aesthetic.
Why does everyone who likes XY only justify it by shitting on a better generation? Wy can't they just like their game for the sake of simply liking their game?
Nobody remembers its characters, nobody remembers any minimally exciting moment. It has no charisma, no personality, it is the most forgettable Gen of all.
XY served a very specific purpose for its time, which it succeeded it beyond expectation: washing the taste of unova out of the fanbase's mouth and resuscitating it after it nearly died
You would be surprised how many genwunners don't care for Johto.
Same as genfivers vs kalos. >Kalos is still the most unpopular region of all.
by what metric?
because the 2020 Pokemon poll shows Unova mons received the least votes, and Greninja won the whole thing
6 months ago
Anonymous
It's a fallacy what you mention. The popularity of a pokemon doesn't imply the same for its generation. XY is mostly remembered for its self-insertion anime. Even XY Ash self-inserters don't care about Kalos games, they just want to jerk off to Serena imagining they are XY Ash.
6 months ago
Anonymous
and you continuously asserting random assumptions and insisting with zero proof that it's the least... (drum roll) POPULAR isn't fallacious?
give me a fricking break you moron
6 months ago
Anonymous
You have no argument and only engage in fallacies and insults. It is enough for me to have refuted you.
Imagine playing through all of Ocarina of Time with the hover boots on, never ever taking them off, and just sliding everywhere and being unable to move properly. Imagine getting sick of it and being unable to remove the hover boots. It wouldn't matter how good the puzzles or combat or story was because you'd have to experience it all through the lense of frustratingly horrible controls, which colors every single thing negatively. That's XY. The entire game plays like an ice level.
Personally for me, It always was the lowest on my list when it came out. But I think it's better than whatever the frick Pokemon is pulling out these days if I'm honest.
The last games I actually liked were pokemon Sun and Moon despite how much of a cut scene hell that game was.
gen6 pokemon are more memorable than the hideous kanto clones in shartnova
kalos is a better, more soulful region than the ugly squalid amerimutt city unova is based on
The only really popular pokemon in Kalos are Greninja and Sylveon. Unova doesn't have very popular pokemon but it has more pokemon loved by the fandom than Kalos has (Landorus, Volcarona, Bisharp, Krookodile, Darmanitan, Hydreigon, Keldeo, etc).
>but it has more pokemon loved by the fandom than Kalos has (Landorus
UnovaBlack folk live in a fantasy world, I swear. No one like your ugly homosexual genies.
I remember that in 2022 on Twitter there were "supposed Kalos fans" asking for a remake of XY. As soon as he realized that Ash was no longer going to be the protagonist of the anime, they fell silent. They just wanted a remake of XY so that Serena would return to the anime and once and for all their ship would come true. How pathetic. Not even XY anime fans are interested in the Kalos games.
Today no one asks for a remake of XY.
Correction: you're just completely fricking blind. I guess you hate Noibat too- oh wait.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>lol we put an butthole on geodude's face, this is totally a new pokemon!!
shartnova dex is is literally amerimutted kanto clones. all 156 of those abominations. ugly and forgettable
Good.
Not as a good as gen 2, but much better than gen 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.
Kanto?!
They are beautiful games. A complete upgrade over Mutttnova, which flopped and nearly killed the series.
99% of the things people b***h about in XY was started by BW, but Kalos is a good region and Gen 6 pokemon are actually nice to look at unlike the shitnova abominations all made by James Turner.
* The most forgettable Rivals/Friends/Gym Leaders/E4/Champion/Villain/Villain Team.
* Super Easy.
* The most pathetic rematches against Gym Leaders/E4/Champion.
* Only 72 new pokémon.
* Santalune forest and Viridian Forest
* Snorlax roadblock
* 12 out of 28 megas introduced in XY were kanto megas and only 1 Kalos mega (in ORAS)
* Legendary hunt only has one Kalos mon (Zygarde). It has Mewtwo and Kanto birds
* Pidgey is always the first wild encounter
* Gift Mega Kanto Starter
* Gift Mega Lucario
* Mewtwo and Zard get two megas
* Lysandre is a copy of Cyrus
* Team Flare is first encountered the exact same way as Team Rocket was, right down to picking one of two fossils
* Lysandre labs is a copy of the Rocket hideout with the spin tiles and elevator key hunt
* Poké Ball Factory shares several similarities with the Silph Co. office building in Saffron City: both places are involved in creating Poké Balls, are located in the same city or town as the sixth Gym of the region, get taken over by a villainous team at some point, and both companies' presidents reward the player with a Master Ball after driving the villainous team out of the building.
* Immigrants from or tourists to Kanto talking about how great it is
* The kalos regional dex is made up of kanto pokemon more than any other region (Kanto: 111 (24.2%), even more than fricking kalosmons who make up 15.7%)
* It created the most autistic, self-inserter and toxic anime fandom.
Shit games.
many of these were direct reactions to BW's failure
Like what?
the kanto shilling and copying, decreased dex size, greater focus given to foreign/older mons over native/newer
So what you're saying is that those three facts, which are bad thing, are reactions to what people didn't like about Unova? That means that Unova didn't actually have those flaws, right?
not shitposting, I just genuinely want to understand your reasoning
>So what you're saying is that those three facts, which are bad thing
I never said they were bad things, nor good things.
>are reactions to what people didn't like about Unova?
what they *supposed* people didn't like about Unova, yes
>That means that Unova didn't actually have those flaws, right?
It means Unova handled those matters remarkably differently; dex size for example, obviously: way bigger vs way smaller. In the case of dex size, it wasn't shrinking it because they assumed people liked a smaller dex, but because, "why bother if people aren't going to like most of them", I assume
And so the spineless beta, so afraid of having to defend his statements, backs off to such an extreme degree that he's no longer saying anything of substance.
How about you learn to read and learn to think, moron?
>make statement
>questioned on statement
>w-well it's not good or bad! I'm not taking a side so I don't have to defend anything! A-also I only want to say what they think, which is non-falsifiable so I don't have to defend that either!! Stop questioning me, leave me alone!!!
Bitch.
>>w-well it's not good or bad!
I literally never even said nor implied they were good or bad in my very first reply you fricking moron
Christ please learn some goddamn reading comprehension
Yes, like I said, bottom b***h beta is afraid to take a stance and reduces his statements to such slop that they're pointless.
The original response was about BW's perceived failures, not about quality.
>but if it was a failure that means it wasn't good
Okay, then Citizen Kane didn't revolutionize film-making because it did shit at the box office, good to know.
>Mewtwo, a mon that was only created 15 years ago in canon, somehow has two millennium old Mega Stones
>I posted an image so you're correct criticism is somehow invalid now
Why does everyone who likes XY only justify it by shitting on a better generation? Wy can't they just like their game for the sake of simply liking their game?
I was agreeing with that post, bruv
Better than SwSh-DLC and vanilla DP. DP was improved by Platinum so XY could've probably been improved by Z.
My Dream hack is Z on the gba.
Rekindled my interest in the series after BW which i thought was weird. Didn't like that 2.5D aesthetic.
Nobody remembers its characters, nobody remembers any minimally exciting moment. It has no charisma, no personality, it is the most forgettable Gen of all.
XY served a very specific purpose for its time, which it succeeded it beyond expectation: washing the taste of unova out of the fanbase's mouth and resuscitating it after it nearly died
Pokemon never came close to dying. Plus Tesselia/Unova was always liked more than Kalos, and over time that gap has grown wider and wider.
>Unova was always liked more than Kalos
false
>over time that gap has grown wider and wider
only because zoomers are growing up
>zoomers
hate em
Shouldn't it be the same for Kalos? Zoomers are more numerous in the fandom, but Kalos is still the most unpopular region of all.
You would be surprised how many genwunners don't care for Johto.
Same as genfivers vs kalos.
>Kalos is still the most unpopular region of all.
by what metric?
because the 2020 Pokemon poll shows Unova mons received the least votes, and Greninja won the whole thing
It's a fallacy what you mention. The popularity of a pokemon doesn't imply the same for its generation. XY is mostly remembered for its self-insertion anime. Even XY Ash self-inserters don't care about Kalos games, they just want to jerk off to Serena imagining they are XY Ash.
and you continuously asserting random assumptions and insisting with zero proof that it's the least... (drum roll) POPULAR isn't fallacious?
give me a fricking break you moron
You have no argument and only engage in fallacies and insults. It is enough for me to have refuted you.
I like the zygarde it's cool
Imagine playing through all of Ocarina of Time with the hover boots on, never ever taking them off, and just sliding everywhere and being unable to move properly. Imagine getting sick of it and being unable to remove the hover boots. It wouldn't matter how good the puzzles or combat or story was because you'd have to experience it all through the lense of frustratingly horrible controls, which colors every single thing negatively. That's XY. The entire game plays like an ice level.
Personally for me, It always was the lowest on my list when it came out. But I think it's better than whatever the frick Pokemon is pulling out these days if I'm honest.
The last games I actually liked were pokemon Sun and Moon despite how much of a cut scene hell that game was.
>/vp/ is physically incapable of talking about XY without also crying about BW
Pathetic.
>crying
spotted the unovabortion
everyone forgot everything about kalos kek
yeah that’s why no one can accurately critique it
literally false but go on believing so
never has been and never will be as reviled as gen 5
gen 6 only serves as a vehicle for shitposting, no one making these threads played it
ALRIGHT WHICH ROM DO I PLAY?
POKEMON SE*X*
OR POKEMON GA*Y*?
gen6 pokemon are more memorable than the hideous kanto clones in shartnova
kalos is a better, more soulful region than the ugly squalid amerimutt city unova is based on
The only really popular pokemon in Kalos are Greninja and Sylveon. Unova doesn't have very popular pokemon but it has more pokemon loved by the fandom than Kalos has (Landorus, Volcarona, Bisharp, Krookodile, Darmanitan, Hydreigon, Keldeo, etc).
Aegislash?
>but it has more pokemon loved by the fandom than Kalos has (Landorus
UnovaBlack folk live in a fantasy world, I swear. No one like your ugly homosexual genies.
>no no you have no argument because i can just say its only popular because of the anime so it doesnt count hehe :^)
Theres nothing objectively terrible about them but I hate them because they are so painfully bland and forgettable
>nothing objectively terrible
I guarantee you have repressed the memory of your “friendly rivals” and the pet name they forced on you.
Kalostrannies get real quiet when you invoke Tierno.
You mean Tierno the #1 Unovafan? KEK
>t-the worst character in the game panders to the games I can’t stop making threads about so… what was my argument again?
heh
>borts think the only guy repping their favorite gen is the worst character
Pottery
Yes, I do. I'm sure you'd dislike a Galaring character wearing a GreBlack person suit hanging himself, would you? Tainting shit is bad.
Chadlos would NEVER............
XY's dex was such an upgrade from Punova's it's not even funny
I remember that in 2022 on Twitter there were "supposed Kalos fans" asking for a remake of XY. As soon as he realized that Ash was no longer going to be the protagonist of the anime, they fell silent. They just wanted a remake of XY so that Serena would return to the anime and once and for all their ship would come true. How pathetic. Not even XY anime fans are interested in the Kalos games.
Today no one asks for a remake of XY.
What do you think the ratio of permanently assblasted Serenagays to sharties is?
They’re ass like everything past gen 5
XY was a perfect game so they didnt need to fix it with a shitty third version.
no it doesn't you dumb bortBlack person
>NOOOOOOO SYLVEON IS DEFINITELY NOT A DERIVATIVE OF THE KANTO DEX
L M A O
welp, i guess s𐐬ynova has 0 pokemon kek
those are completely independent Pokemon. you're just a fricking schizo
>lol we put a Black person nose on zubat, this it totally a new pokemon!!!
cope borty
Correction: you're just completely fricking blind. I guess you hate Noibat too- oh wait.
>lol we put an butthole on geodude's face, this is totally a new pokemon!!
shartnova dex is is literally amerimutted kanto clones. all 156 of those abominations. ugly and forgettable
all unovabortions do all fricking day long is cope and seethe!
you're telling him to breathe air
>borts can't count
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>deleted
>Kalos detractors literally lie and cannot count
Makes perfect sense.