Now that the dust has settled. What could've been done better? Posted on May 23, 2023 by Anonymous Now that the dust has settled. What could've been done better?
More direction on character design. Shit is all over the place.
Better story. You can keep the soap opera melodrama, but at least make it not as stupid.
I'd also ask the characters be better characterized. Diamant, Ivy, and Alfred probably had the only remotely decent characters of the main cast. Getting real tired of the quirky gimmicky characters.
Big agree. I know they were trying something new, but it comes off garish.
What about ms hiya papaya?
She was fine. Would have liked a little more from her but I will say she was a breath of fresh air.
I'm sure there were other characters that didn't feel one-not and I'm just not thinking of them as well. But things like Alcryst or Bunet were endearing at first, but got old.
Oh yeah, Pandreo and Panette were fine, especially the latter. Pandreo had some interesting nuance, but you don't get that unless you go for the right relations it feels like.
This. I don't know who greenlit toothpaste hair but it turned me away from the game immediately.
They could have just not made it
Based, This game doesn’t deserve to exist
Weird thing to say when it's the best FE in years.
It’s okay to like one piece of shit over the other piece of shit
I was skeptical about the emblem ring system but Iike how it decoupled the skills from the classes. I don't like that you can still class change but i'm happy that they kept the weapon requirements for class change. the only thing i hated was the censorship, but that's par for the course for fe at this point. still no buy until they stop this shit
removed LGBT shit, that would've made the game a 10/10
ACTUAL S SUPPORTS AND NO CENSORSHIP
i never expected the writing to be beyond anniversary tier but i lost motivation to finish it due to chapter 25, i know for a fact i could beat it, I just don't want to put up with a split army or warp/rewarp shit, I would if I honestly cared about the story to want to see it unfold in person, but I don't.
tl;dr I need incentive to finish a game if all it takes for me to put it on pause is one chapter.
>clearing a hard chapter isn't incentive enough for him
>he didn't want the drama of having to face corrupted mom
yeah pretty much, hit the nail on the head. the mom drama might've been enough to get me to continue if she had more screen time because i honestly do like what i've seen of her, FE just needs to stop killing titty mommy's so damn early.
I loved it, the only thing that I think could be better is the UI.
Transplant the gameplay system into a game with better designs and writing. That's it. Oh, and hub could use more time in the oven I guess.
>Make the story revolve around Brodia vs Elusia.
>Move Alear to a Tiki-esque role
>If there's going to be a big emphasis on rings thats fine class lock all units.
>Remove the garbage break mechanic, bring back weapon triangle.
>Add defend maps and an extra escape map or two with an actual emphasis on escaping (not turning into a kill boss map)
>10 turnwheels for normal, ~3-5 for hard, ~1-3 or none for maddening
Make Sombron a cute bisexual girl and let Alear join her side instead. This is probably what 3H fags actually want.
That would be a massive improvement on the plot.
Anna belly licking minigame
They should go all in next time, more moeshit nonsensical cast with e-boibait censored supports. They should make maps bigger and more bloated with unlimited rewind funtions. They should go full Mika Pikazo on the palette with more special effects that makes it even harder to discern what's going on in battles. Also make full movies out of every single attack and bosses should have at least 10 lifebars with different dialogue triggers every time one depletes. Also make Taylor Swift sing a 8 minute intro song.
Me 2 I love Mika Pikazo-sensei 🙂
THE RESEMBLANCE IS UNCANNY
Allow me to kill these two instead of recruit and the entire story would've been salvaged. I'd even forgive the zoomer-focused art direction.
Let’s also kill that Hiya Bitch too omg she’s beyond cringe.
A better fire emblem would've made a good 60% of the cast optional
better unit balance so 60% of your units dont get insta-benched
Just slap Lyn on whoever to fix them :^)
This is pretty much the main problem with Engage
Doesn't help that Alear, Louis and Celine can pretty much wreck the first 10 chapters of the game all by themelves. Makes the early game of every run extremely samey unless you force yourself to use the shitters
I finished a Maddening ironman with no DLC and the entirety of the 10 first chapters was just powerleveling Alear and Louis. No reason to not do that when you get like 6 top tier units during the next 3 chapters
I'm putting all my copes in this mod to fix that one problem https://gamebanana.com/wips/76139
I like the game but
>story and writing in general are inexcusably bad
>maddening locking you into set growths sucks the fun out of leveling
>swordmasters are still shit
>too many characters auto join
>Eirika is out of character and Ephraim is a complete afterthought
>Halbediers don't look as cool as in Tellius
>maddening locking you into set growths sucks the fun out of leveling
Literally just beat the game first anon. The devs didn't want people to shit talk maddening mode and call it RNG shit because WAAAAAH THIS MODE IS POORLY DESIGNED BECAUSE I GOT BAD LEVEL UPS
Too bad that they didn't know that the current FE fanbase doesn't actually care about the gameplay portion of FE and they all jumped to normal casual for the VN experience
I know you get it after beating it but "bad units" getting lucky good levels or vice versa is part of the fun in unit training for me.
Otherwise maddening was perfectly fine, there are finally neither ambush spawns nor inflated stats on enemies
This game has one of the easiest lunatic modes in the entire franchise and nearly every single late mid-late game map is trivialized with Micaiah
The only genuinely good map Engage had was ch 11
Micaiah only trivializes chapter 24 and 25
And even then, going for the turn 1 clear on chapter 25 is extremely inconsistent on ironmans. Don't tell me that you reload or use time crystal when your 70% chance strategy fails and then say that the game is too easy anon
No I, didn't really use many warp strats until the first phase of ch 26. I only did one playthrough and I played blind. It was only toward the end of ch 25 it clicked "Oh I could've just Micaiah warp 4 then dance and warp 4 more" to trivialize a lot of maps.
Even without Miccy, the multiple waves of reinforcement dont really feel like a punishment for not going fast, turtling with Corrin terrain and theifs at the front you're never in any real danger. They more just waste your time rather than being any sort of real threat.
Not to mention, 10 turn wheel charges is way too much for what's supposed to be lunatic mode.
Basically Engage lunatic feels more like conquest hard. Maybe even a little easier. Chapters ~5-11ish provided some challenge but the challenge dropped off hard afterward
>Chapters ~5-11ish provided some challenge but the challenge dropped off hard afterward
Those are the easiest chapters in the game because Marth is a kill button and Louis is broken even without Sigurd. Chapter 16, 17, 18, 22, 24 and 25 are far more brutal.
Irrelevant. I can also cheese Conquest by connecting to a castle and buying all of the broken skills like replicate, quixotic and life and death. There are some features that are meant to be avoided unless you're a casualfag
Engage's maddening mode is easy but nowhere near conquest hard mode, specially with the lategame fliers that don't bypass Corrin's terrain skills
>Irrelevant. I can also cheese Conquest by connecting to a castle and buying all of the broken skills like replicate, quixotic and life and death.
>Comparing a feature that requires an online connection to a feature in the base game and can be used by anyone without restriction
Online connection is available on every single copy and on every single 3DS. There's no subscription or anything. It's literally in the base game
But whatever, I'll just grind Azura to level 40 in chapter 5 and buy overpowered units from my previous save file so I can call Conquest easy. No online involved
Why the hell are people defending accessibility features for retards as them being part of the game now?
>I'll just grind Azura to level 40 in chapter 5 and buy overpowered units from my previous save file so I can call Conquest easy
That's kind of going against the spirit of the challenge. Everything I said about Engage lunatic being easy refers to playing it as your selected difficulty on your first playthrough completely blind. If you've beaten other games' maniac/lunatic modes engage's feels like a joke.
>That's kind of going against the spirit of the challenge
Wow! Exactly the same as using fucking rewinds
Sorry anon, but if I see a chance to grind Azura to max level without any drawbacks, I'm going to do it and then claim that the game was ez
Turnwheel is literally part of the game it's not the same as having another save another save file to pull 5 units from you stupid gay
Fine, whatever, keep using your turn wheel I don't really care
But the fact is: My level 40 Azura in chapter 9 makes lunatic far easier than engage's maddening with time crystals
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll proceed to not skip Lyn mode in FE7 and then call Hector Hard mode the easiest game in the franchise
>Those are the easiest chapters in the game because Marth is a kill button and Louis is broken even without Sigurd. Chapter 16, 17, 18, 22, 24 and 25 are far more brutal.
We'll agree to disagree. Do keep in mind I've done ever done one playthrough of engage and it was on maddening. A lot of what may have made the earlier chapters harder for me than they should have was not fully abusing the backup mechanic, having marth and sigurd on Alear and the jagen and refusing to deploy units because "they look gay". I didn't really experiment with rings until ~ch 7-8
Were you playing on casual or something?
>Were you playing on casual or something?
Any other retarded things you wanna say?
Dunno anon, I just find it amazing that you found the chapters where it's impossible to fail "hard" but the later ones, specially chapter 22 thanks to the wolf knights and lack of emblem rings, "easy"
>Do keep in mind I've done ever done one playthrough of engage and it was on maddening
> A lot of what may have made the earlier chapters harder for me than they should have was not fully abusing the backup mechanic, having marth and sigurd on Alear and the jagen and refusing to deploy units because "they look gay"
If your playing maddening as your 2nd+ playthrough you're already familiar with the games mechanics what you find harder will be different.
Hard doesn't mean I game overed or needed to use 10 turnwheel charges. It means it was harder than the rest of the game which I felt was easy.
Taking 30 turns to clear a chapter where you are being swarmed with reinforcements that cant ever kill you when you turtle with corrin fog and thieves because you went too slow doesn't make it hard. It's just tedious and long.
DLC maps take time please understand
Not helping your case
>implying I'd spend another dime on this piece of shit shit
Good taste, friends.
No DLC, somehow more shit than the TH one.
Better character writing.
This game's scope simply does not let it outlive or outscore TH, but those changes would have at least made for a better experience
Fire Emblem games were never good
the average fates fan!
dilate Kaga chud
thank god i will never be a woman, i fucking hate women so much its unreal!
They could’ve handled the emblems way better, they are too broken even on maddening, the whole game is horribly balanced in terms of difficulty
>Beginning chapters Chole can solo with a forged Steel Lance
>Middle chapters are piss easy with the exception of 17
>Endgame is basically Sigurd + Micaiah spam
>Beginning chapters Chole can solo with a forged Steel Lance
Did you use the 30k gold and 20 silvers that the DLC gives you? Because Steel Lance Chloe looks fucking fucking garbage
Nope no DLC, you can even promote her with the first seal and she basically beats anyone in a round of combat minus armor knights and this is in maddening
yeah her bases are solid. what promotion do you like for her?
I used Griffin, I thought Wyvern wouldn’t fit her but maybe it works to help with her strength
Maybe I just remember her in the early game basically ripping units apart with the forged lance, she didn’t double the really fast units but got them to half health which helped pick them off
from what I understand wyvern has +2 strength and +10 strength growth. over 20 levels that's +2 strength for a total of +4 for using wyvern. that's +8 damage for every combat if she is always doubling. what advantages does griffin offer?
Well, then you got blessed with her level ups or something. Every time I used Chloe, she was absolute dogshit and struggled to double even with an engraved iron lance that matched her own build stat. A steel lance sounds even more stupid
OH AND BYLETH, WHOS BRIGHT IDEA WAS IT TO GIVE HIM AN ADJACENT DANCE THAT CAN EVEN DANCE THE DANCER.
I lol at the people that called Engage as good as Conquest.
the next FEggot game will be for their real audience aka retarded women who play in normal/casual and they want a dating sim VN
As a coomer, I approve Engage
That makes one of you.
Coomers hate this game cause the girls and guys are shit and ugly
I like it as well, so that makes two of us.
>Over 20K worth of garbage Vs 2K worth of vomit
Imagine being a talented artist and wasting that talent on shit like FE
Now that I think about it, AI Art is a blessing in disguise
Less cheesy story, a better implementation of the Xenologue, more cohesive designs and a more aesthetically pleasing UI. Portraits would have been nice too, because the 3D models can look weird at times, especially the female faces.
Remove all the patch/dlc bonuses that trivialized the game
Less publishing early xp curve so the starting shitters don't fall behind so badly
Make the writing not shit
A balanced Maddening mode, like in Three Houses.
I started this one a few days ago on Ryujinx with the uncensored patch but I feel like I should have go with hard mode and now I dunno what to do...
this is the MC of the best selling persona FE game ever say something nice about them
Three Houses Golden when
after FEH ends so never
All good things must come to an end
Sad the others didn’t get to stick around for as long as Horny Mobile Spin-off Gacha PNG Collection Game
sadly that garbage still has like 4 years max, powercreep still will go ultra AIDS
didn't FEH reach 1 billion last year?
“Clown Emblem: 3 Tents” When?
I do not get how that game got so popular. I can see where they were going for it, and it's their first effort at a FE title on the Switch, but the gameplay feels so gutted compared to previous titles and its all so fucking SLOW. It lacks variety in both gameplay options and character design and for me the Monastery just isn't a compelling setting to spend my time in.
>I do not get how that game got so popular
Same reason why Awakening got popular: muh first FE game
Also, insane amounts of shilling
>the FEs that keep getting popular are the ones with shite gameplay
I'm not sure if this is a coincidence or a pattern now.
And you could argue getting a Smash DLC Spot, can’t say the same for Engage, people talk about Dead Franchises in Smash being on Life Support but I’d argue without Smash, Fire Emblem slowly falls and crumbles
Three Houses is a good game but a bad fire emblem game
Female Byleth’s design is terrible and is all over the place, the first is that her face looks very young compared to the rest of her body, those big googly bug eyes, the bare belly midriff and high heels looks retarded, also what’s up with those leggings they are so out of place in the game’s setting, it is as if you were taking Zelda's head and putting it on Camilla's body, the second is that her clothing contrasts too much with the rest of TH designs, it is as if a Ghotic/Rocker/Metal Girl from the 21st century travels back in time to medieval times.
… and cringe
Literally just fire Komuro and never let hear near a Fire Emblem script again and the next game will already have improved by 50%.
not our fault that chudeda loves to outsource the writing to her
Should've stayed with high age rating and didn't tone it down. Would've made huge difference.
>What could've been done better?
The legacy characters only turned people off because 80% of the fanbase started playing at Awakening
Yeah sounds about right
Awakening has more legacywank than Engage does with how prominent "marth" is and tiki showing up as a main character.
Less monestary shit, get us into the action and into more as fast as possible.
Don't be afraid to just make a fire emblem game, that's what fire emblem fans are here for and the less we get to play the good part of engage the worse it is overall.
A bit more serious character design and story, not a ton, but a little would go a long way.
It would be nice if owning the dlc and if updates did not give you free shit that throws off game balance.
I love how not even remember those dudes from smash bros didn't help pissgayge to sell
Smash Bros itself is a shitty forced dead meme, especially now.
Good. I don't want more smash fags in FE
too bad you will get more mentally ill alphabet people who simps for edelturd and moron-ude
>too bad you will get more mentally ill alphabet people
You described smash players if they weren't pedos.
and your fanbase is filled with mentally ill people who wanted to trannified Rosado and think edelshit didn't do anything wrong so fuck off subhuman
Holy shit anon you are fucking mentally BROKEN Lmfao
I don’t know what’s more cringe that Hiya Bitch or Dimitri AvatarShitters on here
But then who will buy all the Roy merch???
>implying it wouldn't be dismounted Seliph
Is Toothpaste on Smash?
Nope but since an FE4 remake is coming expect Sigurd to be the shill pick
oh joy horse Barfth, his final smash will be himself setting on fire?
maybe in the next one after samurai kicks every 3rd party of the rooster
Here is your obligatory new shill fire emblem lord, please clap
tbh I wouldn’t really be mad if like the another anon said they cut all the filler FE picks in the next game like Lucina, Corrin and Byleth
Unfortunately too late for Smash Ultimate but too early for Smash 6
What the fuck would Alear even do? Swing sword a different way? Hold sword in a funny way for a counter? Summon bullshit like Joker?
alear is a lord who can use fists and yeah summon bullshit like joker
XB3fags and Engagefags should just join forces in my opinion. It's the only way of them beating XB2 and 3H in terms of sales and save their respective franchises
I pirated both games I'm sorry
Unironically think there's a higher chance they add edel to the next smash before colgate
samurai would rather pander to fragile crybaby self inserters seeing how he choose bitch corrin over anyone else, edelshit chance is gone
soccer guy is retired, next smash game will have a different director
Smash 4 development ceased a long time ago.
anon when engayge released the switch put a notice with "there are smash bros characters" in that game, It didn't help at all lol
If they seriously tried to market Roy and the gang as smash bros characters that's pathetic as fuck.
Kek but your wording of it makes no sense and kills brain cells, also where’s muh grammar?
Engage is the best FE game.
I don't know how to warp abuse and I don't know how the fuck to clear leif's paralogue.
Wasn't the story written by the Fates guy or was this just a meme? If it's true there is no hope anyway as obvious mistakes are going to be repeated ad infinitum.
Nothing, it's already perfect
Engayge sisters what went so wrong
i ain't watching that, even if i agree with the title, he ain't going to tell me anything i don't already know.
Why are fire emblem youtubers so cringy, I can stand other Nintendo fans like Pokemon youtubers but I find FE fans unbearable
>sells the same in japan as 3h
>sells less in the west then 3h
hmmm... what could have effected the western launch that didn't effect the japanese launch?
Ignoring the shit story/characters and botched translation which you don't know about until you are already playing the game, the character designs look like absolute shit. Only no-taste Japs actually like these garish clowns.
everyone knew about the censorship before the game launched. fe fans have been vigilant about it since they removed skinship from fates.
This is so fucking stupid and reeks of view baiting, Xenoblade 3 had a similar issue of not being as popular as its predecessor but no Nintendo or Xenoblade content creator made a stupid video saying it “fell off”
its quite sad and funny how FEggots want epik politics and manly Rambo's in their censored dating sim
I like it and that's all that matters. It's a really fun game. The only thing I don't particularly care for is how restricted deployment slots get in the midgame which edges out a lot of new units, but even with that it does a lot of other things really well.
I'm sorry other people don't get the enjoyment out of the game that I do.
>implying retarded westerns care about the censorship
they eat their slop like good little goys
Actual competent writing and less fucking retarded looking characters.
fuck that's good
Because 3H has things to discuss unlike fucking engage.
You've been tribalisticly bickering about plot holes for the past 2 years, fuck off.
Yeah, that's something, unlike the nothingness that is engage. Like what do you even talk about? About how dumb everbody is? About fucking tea? Come on...
on how edelshit is a retard and how the game kisses dimitri ass so hard
>NO YOU CAN'T HAVE VILLAINS THAT AREN'T PERFECTLY COHERENT GENIUSES!?!
Alright let me open 3Hdiscussion.exe...
EDELGARD DID NOTHING WRONG
OOOH MOMMY/DAUGHTER RHEA PLEASE SIT ON MY FACE
WAGA NA, FERDINANDU VON AEGIRU!
Uhhh when you think about it, blue lions is the only good 3H route because it's the only one that is actually finished and isn't just a shitty lore dump why are we still implying that 3H doesn't have a canon golden route?
PART 1 WHITE CLOUDS
OH FUCK GUYS HOW DO I STOP RODRIGUE FROM DYING TURN IN THE FELIX PARALOGUE gets ignored because no one cares about gameplay in 3H
WHY DOES A TEACHER DRESSES UP LIKE THAT
LET ME DO A WORTHLESS IMAGE DUMP JUST LIKE I LOVE DOING IT IN THE KATAWA SHOUJO GENERAL BECAUSE I CAN'T LET IT GO
>WAGA NA, FERDINANDU VON AEGIRU!
This is a better meme than anything Engage has if it even has memes
Literally hiya papaya tier >meme
Did you even play Engage, or were you just saving money for the $70 Zelda DLC anon? You'll also love hearing Pandreo go AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO whenever you select him
Difference is Ferdinand is a good character unlike Papaya and Pandero, also the fuck are you talking about with the Zelda shit
You're right. Pandreo is a great character.
>one of two characters that escapes engages shit tier writing
That doesn’t mean automatically good, I blame the fact that only the lords have to be relevant in the story and the rest of the cast to supports and even then his supports are fine
>If I act like a retard and only talk about select things the character is bad!
i like the part where ferdinand is competitive towards anime hitler (waifu) and acts like a noble................................................ oh shit that's all I have to fucking say about that character and I was actually trying hard this time
Thanks for confirming that you’re a speed reader. That’s all I need to know gay, have your last (You)
You make me blush. I sped read my claude and seteth routes so damn hard that it felt like I was looking at the same script twice, until suddenly dragon waifu and bandit guy showed up
>Lorenz 2 but with a villain of the week tier father
Ok, let's do one abou Engage:
Are fire emblem fags the snoys of the nintendo fanbase?
sure they only care about story, representation and immersion
3H fans aren't Fire Emblem fans
maybe you should talk on how the mole people with their nuclear weapons, mechas, electric cannons and regeneration chambers get stomped by an angry boar
Nothing, it's perfect, if you want to play a fucking VN go play a fucking VN, or Persona.
Where are the paired endings
>fagdreo is a good character
this is why everyone will laugh at you