now that the dust has settled what did we actually think of Lies of Pee
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now that the dust has settled what did we actually think of Lies of Pee
now that the dust has settled what did we actually think of Lies of Pee
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Only played the demo, felt like a "I wanna make the ultimate souls game!" directed by a teenager who didn't understand why any mechanic existed to begin with and just smashed everything together hoping it would magically work out.
As with every single product or service, there is a group of cultish young sheep who defend it. I have been hiding the threads ever since, like this one once I press post.
>Only played the demo
I don't care about your opinion
>plays demo
>joins discussion to give his opinion on a game
Frick off
It pretty much is the ultimate souls game.
It’s so easy to tell when a buttblasted Japanese shill is in this thread
The average Fromdrone gentlemen.
You sound really mad and pathetic
the combat system unironically works great thoughever
as if (you) would mute a thread with a post like that you homosexual
Fun once, at NG+ I went nah I'm done.
Gg in general
>at NG+ I went nah I'm done.
just like all souls games
Stupid title
Great game
It;s pretty damn good, on my seconds run right now. Frick the Black Rabbit Bruh therhoood.
Those guys are incredibly easy.
NTA, but it took me all of last night to beat them. Other than Scrapped Watchman nothing else took so long.
Gonna buy this game soon
What is the most Sekiro-like way to play that focuses on parry?
I remember you from last thread and I''ll reinstate:
>unlock katana
>press block button
Level up TEC and use the rapier, then eventually the katana you get from the swamp boss
Level up Puppet String for maximum kino
I've seen some videos of a dude slaying bosses by exclusively deflecting with the the katana. So definitely do that. You can however deflect with any weapon, as long as you rely on deflecting rather than dodging the game will feel like sekiro
Better with mods
Go back to the other thread
Very fun game, did 3 consecutive playthroughs and used all the parry practice to go and finally beat Sekiro
But Sekiro is way easier though?
bretty good soulslike. One of the better non From ones. I have some gripes with combat, like how enemies can block you into a corner and not let you move but its nothing too bad.
>I have some gripes with combat, like how enemies can block you into a corner and not let you move but its nothing too bad.
This is the number one complaint my friend group and I had with it. So much pushback from enemy attacks makes it easy to get walled
I enjoyed it. Not flawless but for a first try I was very happy and I'm going to grab the DLC / sequel or whatever that Oz teaser was.
Very good game. The combat is fun and the areas are mostly pretty nice to poke around in and find weapons and such. lots of weapon variety too.
I was impressed by the story, while its not anything amazing, for a soulslike it tells a pretty compelling story without needing to rely on lorebooks or long cutscenes letting you keep in the action the whole way through, and the sidequests are pretty solid too.
Bosses are a bit of a mixed bag though, plenty of them are good but the game peaks in act 6 with king of puppets phase 2 and then the bosses after that are pretty much just good and not great until the final boss.
Did 2 playthroughs, I feel like the lie system is a bit a misstep though, rather than a truth and lie ending its more like a normal ending and a true ending (which you get from lying, and is just an extension of the normal ending) so there's not really any reason to tell the truth.
Also the final dungeon is way too fricking long.
I'd probably give it an 8.5/10, I'm not in a rush to play NG+2 any time soon but I enjoyed NG a lot and enjoyed NG+ a decent amount and will likely come back for NG+2 at some point in the future.
I didn't thing the level design was very good myself. Don't get me wrong, it was fine and serviceable but there weren't any areas where I was like
>oh this place is cool!
I like the hotel but that's about it.
It felt like a much more real world than most Souls games which was nice. Most Souls games are just nonsensical castles and shit in the middle of nowhere, while Krat at least felt like a coherent city.
I think Elysion Boulevard and the Church are pretty solid. Factory isnt too bad either. Act 5/6 areas are very boring to explore though admittedly. 7 seems like it should be good but just ends up being a very confusing straight line through the arcade and exhibition. 8 is just a swamp because haha soulsike. I like the feel of 9 but admittedly not much to find. 10 is boring. 11 is too long but i did enjoy it on my first playthrough for the most part.
so yeah you might have a point actually the more I think about it. most of the areas are just serviceable, and the early game is generally better designed levels even if its also a bit too easy.
>I think Elysion Boulevard
I liked the music that was playing I'll give it that much. Actually I think the music in the game was pretty damn good in general though a lot of it cared by the records of course.
the tower had some very classic from level design with cool verticality, but they need to keep pushing in that direction harder
That's Lies of P with a BB outfit, right? Threw me for a loop for a second.
yes
>Bloodborne Hunter outfit
WHAT
you are aware that fromsoft did not invent this style but merely copied it, right?
What other games have this style besides Bloodbourne and Lies of P?
its from a movie called brotherhood of the wolf, youngling
I accept your concession
Final Fantasy
asiatic shill
any cute outfit mods for P?
RE the Good Ending, would you still love your waifu if the only way to be with her was to put her soul in an immortal doll body?
Extremely fun, just finished it an hour ago.
I was having trouble with Laxasia because I was running Bone Saw + Pickaxe, too slow, then I switched to Holy Sword and all the final bosses were a breeze.
I still hate Laxasia.
>Always try new weapons on each boss
>Me every time the new weapon isn't working well
I beat Laxasia and the actual final boss on my first attempt in NG and thought those fights were super easy compared to other shit in the game.
then I got to them in NG+ and Laxasia especially kicked my shit in on NG+. I have no idea how I one shot her first time around she's actually kinda hard unless NG just doesnt hit very hard or something.
Manus was a joke of a boss, yeah, but you managed to beat Laxasia on your FIRST attempt? What weapon were you using?
Learn to parry his attacks, he's actually easy when you learn to parry.
That really heavy greatsword special weapon that you get from beating Act 7 boss iirc. It has a counter for 2 fable that tears shit up. it does an insane amount of damage.
if you have the perfect parry thing that you can use once per fight just use that on his big X slash that dashes across the room. perfect parrying that staggers him and lets you pretty much delete half his hp bar. otherwise parry his normal attacks and phase 2 will drop like a fly. phase 1 is a joke. both phases have kinda low health.
bretty good
just got into the factory, it bothered me that there were zero (0) shops or buildings I could enter in Elysium(?) boulevard, hopefully corridors expand a bit in the future
How do I beat nameless puppet
This shit fricking slaps and I'm mad it's only really usable for the finale and NG+.
Phase 1: Not hard if you practice, it's a fair fight. Try to learn how to beat it without taking too much damage.
Phase 2: Use perfect parry grindstone, twice if possible, and finish him off with throwing items if you get his HP low enough, acid helps a lot.
Parry good or laugh at him as you hold aegis up and spam parry button until he staggers
Just beat. One of the best Soulslike games ive ever played. This and Hellpoint are top of my list. Lies of P actually being a well made game while Hellpoint is just scuffed kino.
I asked in another thread but that thread was just twinkbaiting so I'll ask here.
I'm getting better at the katana super parry but the only enemy I can reliably do it with is the fire-shitting trash can. My key is knowing I can reliably count to 2 from the start to flash but does anyone know any other tips for parrying faster shit?
Yeah, use a real weapon you fricking weeb.
I did, I beat NG and NG+ with the Holy Sword of the Ark, been playing NG++ with the scissors but I wanna git gud at the super parry because it completely fricks bosses sideways.
This is my stats btw, I'm going to finish motivity first
Where the frick did you get glasses?
Preorder item, it's Venigni's outfit
>level 262
>bragging about beating NG Laxasia
kys
>we
Cancergay
If you used Aegis, you didn't beat the game.
Aegis isn't even that good, it's just a panic button.
I tried using it but I honestly found it very ineffective compared to some of the other tools. preferred using the flamethrower and just lighting shit up honestly.
peepee/poopoo
vastly overrated
absolutely ass enemy variety, good game otherwise
It's decent
soulsborne tier, absolutely filtered all the casual gays that elden ring made feel welcome
So how important is this lies/truth system? I assume if I don't do this right it'll frick me out of the best ending or best gear?
What choices do I need to keep in mind to not frick up??
do a full lie run and full truth run on ngplus or vice versa
is full truth the correct true ending or how does it work
Full Lie + making one correct choice in the final dungeon = best ending
Anything other than full lie = normal ending.
its that simple.
Oh...so lying is the "correct" thing to do? damn bro
the game spells it out for you during the beginning, puppets cannot lie, therefore lying makes you human
most of the lies are to spare people pain or to avoid having to kill someone, giving charity and praying also increases humanity, as well as listening to music and petting cat (apparently)
You don't need ALL lies, it's just that lies give you more humanity and you need high humanity for the best ending. You can tell the truth a few times if you need to and still get the best ending, and even still get the weapon.
yeah for sure. its not like you need every single lie in the game, but you need to lie 90% of the time. You can miss a few and there are a few truths like Eugenie's quest that gives humanity points for telling the truth, but in general lying is the way to get the true ending.
Lying gives you humanity
Humanity unlocks specific choices in the story
The full lie + thise specific choices get you the ''true ending''
lie as much as possible, become human through lying (usually lies to make people feel good), listening to music, praying at a statue, put a certain npc out of their misery when they ask you to
you don't have to do a full lie playthrough, you can tell the truth 3 times and still get the true ending so long as you make the right decision and are human by the last boss
>you can tell the truth 3 times
I told tye truth at least 5 times, and got Rise and Golden Lie both.
i was gonna say at least 3 times because i think i did lie 4 times
There is one item you don't get for not getting a max humanity run but that's it really.
Laxasia and Nameless Puppet make casuals seethe
I honestly think Manus is harder than the puppet, at least before they nerfed him.
Nameless puppet is pretty fun but I never really found him difficult at all until NG+ and even then he took me 3 or 4 attempts I think, which while not super easy isnt that hard. I really dunno how people get filtered by him, especially since he's actually fun to fight too. he reminds me of one of the BB DLC bosses, the woman in the clocktower who is also pretty easy but fun to fight.
Manus was one of the easiest bosses ever made, i genuinely thought it was gonna have a third phase
I found his phase 1 to be a complete joke, but his phase 2 to be a lot tougher. I genuinely found him way harder than both the puppet and laxasia.
Yeah Nameless is like Lady Maria or Sister Friede, or Sword Saint to some extent. But I find Phase 2 very hard to parry.
Nameless Puppet is fun. Laxasia is a c**t
>P shakes the cat at max humanity
Is he autistic?
just like us!
it's called pendulum swinging, fairly normal thing to do with a cat
To be autistic is human
I’m not that other anon, but it’s easily the best “Soulslike” and outshines even Elden Ring itself!
Move Bloodborne to B and its accurate.
No
All in glorious 15fps
still best lore ost weapons and bosses
it takes a person like 5 minutes to readjust to the frames, unless you were born after 08
Nioh 1 in C, Nioh 2 in B, Nioh 2 final difficulty in A
Nioh is the best soulslike, but it's not on the level of soulsborne, lies is
>sekiro A
kys Black personhomosexual
>nioh 2 worse than sekiro or DS1 in any form shape or way
absolute morons without taste
Nioh 2 is S along with Bloodborne. they're just different games, Nioh 2 mogs the combat of every fromsoft game but BB has better atmosphere.
it could be better than all the games on the list and it wouldn't matter, it's not soulsborne, it's soulslike
nioh is not a soulslike.
it's a stylish action game.
Drop Demons to the top of C and Dark 3 behind Elden Ring and Lies and i'll agree
10/10 anon I agree completely
DeS2 remake is below both DaS2 The complete gutting of the art direction, sound direction, and music in general makes playing the game a much worse experience since there was no real quality of life shit such as making soul tendency less stupid to make up for these objectively awful changes
*I meant DeS not DeS2 fml lol
i understood you
Dark Souls 1 through Anal Rodeo is probably a 8-9
everything (outside of Gwyn) after that is probably a 5-6, with the exception of Seath's Arcives, which is a 7-8. Artorias of the Abyss DLC is probably a 9.
>muh lovecraft
homosexual detected
I feel like there's some weird variance in the endings. I got the Golden Lie and Rise of P, but my Carlo didn't cry when Geppetto died, and when I rewatched the scene online he did. I confirmed this because I recorded my ending and went back and watched it.
You have to choose to take Sophia's ergo too after Laxasia or you get the normal ending.
>Gemini
>Jimminy cricket
BRA
VO
MIYA
ZAKI
Cleverest frick-you to Disney copyright I've ever seen.
The talking cricket from the book you know, Disney simply made up the name. There's a lot of stuff in these old books that you think Disney made up but they didn't, like Esmeralda having a pet goat in Hunchback.
And the name is what he was talking about, dumbass.
Its good
>beat Manus and take the elevator down after his somber speech about truth
>somber music, long elevator descent setting the mood for the actual final boss
>out of nowhere Gemini says "UM YIKES AM I RIGHT?! A HUMAN TURNING INTO A GOD?! BIG OOF!"
I fricking hate Gemini.
Gemini in general is the worst thing in the game, he isnt even explained at all storywise, he just exists to crack stupid millenial humor.
I'm the guy who told him to move BB to B, and you're right, Sekiro shouldn't be in A, it should be in S.
I make it a point to mute the sound during the tram ride.
Gemini could have been worse and overly chatty or constantly chiming in but thankfully there are long stretches where you can forget he exists entirely.
But when he does talk, it inevitably blows and adds virtually nothing to the world or story.
I need a mod to mute that b***h
Imagine if there was an evil route instead of just a bad ending and you had to fight "Gemini the Conscience" at the end.
Kinda a shame since I didn't mind him at certain parts where he was giving lore tidbits, but the shit with him going like "Yikes partner, that's them Black Rabbit folks, better steer clear!" in that tone, I was put off. But like the other anon says he's absent for a large portion of it so it's whatever.
Oh thank goodness, there's a thread about LoP that isn't centered around homosexual tendencies.
As much.
is it cracked?
yeah man, it's totally lit.
word.
Victor is equally as bad as the Break-inflicting Door Guardian, being easy doesn't mean he is fun, it means he is boring.
>Shits on Victor
>Thinks the Black Rabbit jobbers are good
BRB is kino but they all should have had more HP.
I might 'ave a soh spoh for a cer'ain rabbeh, but can ya blame me?
b***h ain't got no top half of her head, m8
man I really was disappointed by the lack of costumes in this game. I was hoping we'd get to wear the Black Rabbit Brotherhood's outfits. I want that fricking bucket.
Yeah the lack oh headwear especially was a bummer
>can get shorter hair, but only while wearing certain masks
Mad Clown is fricking garbage, worst fight in the game.
I die to him more than I die to the Nameless Puppet but I liked that I overcame the challenge since he didn't felt unfair at all, unlike LAXATIVE.
How is Laxasia unfair, Phase 1 is a joke, and Phase 2 while difficult is perfectly manageable and has low hp. you can also reflect electricity back at her for noticeable damage chunks.
BECAUSE I had to switch weapons to defeat her during phase 2, that's the sign of a poorly designed boss.
Sounds like a skill issue.
>TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU AND RAMS YOUR ASS WITH THUNDER LANCE
USE
THE
FRICKING
SHIELD
it trivializes all boss fights
Why would I use Aegis? I want to beat the game.
If you haven't already you literally can't ever due to the patch, so who cares?
you're playing the patched version so you already can't
whats funny that while blocking, all weapon speed is normalized so even the largest frickin club swings as fast as a frickin dagger while its propped up
I hate him but I also kinda like him. He doesn't have a whole lot of tricks up his sleeve but what he does have hits hard and hits fast.
The trick is just to run past him at first to get the Stargazer right behind him, then you can take your time on attempts and learning his moveset. If you do not respect his range and speed, he will frick your mouth raw over and over.
I like him because he's exactly what you should expect from a clown. His attacks are always just slightly off from what you expect and there's almost always one more hit you don't see coming.
Great setup too. You're introduced to him by a giant rolling ball of burning puppets, then his crew of buttholes assault you with fire and bombs, all while he's moseying towards you. Then the boss health bar appears and shit gets real.
The dancing and laughing when he smokes you is perfectly infuriating too.
I would personally put Nameless Puppet in its own SS rank, it was genuinely that much fun to me.
now that honeymoon is over, I can say I had a lot of fun with it and it gets close in terms of individual qualities nailing from standard, but as a whole it is really just a minor palate cleanser while waiting for the real thing, it's way too linear and overly samey and lacking the sense of adventure with lots of secrets, lacking in environmental variety, etc. if they make the sequel less linear and embrace the variety from mixing different fairytales together with more high concepts, then they might actually get something legit and memorable going on because they got all the basics right otherwise, they're clearly very good at copying now i wanna see what they can create
>How do I beat...
Just smash the buttons, it's more effective than trying to read the attack animations
frick this homosexual it took me 2 dozen tries to kill him
NTA but this guy also was the first hard boss in the game for me personally, took me about 10-11 tries and I don't know why. I was playing it too safe or should have just used the electric club probably for extra damage.
How do you have so much health this early in the game
I put some points into health and wore the health amulet? It's still low level, you can see the 2700 souls in the UI is still enough to level up. This was my 2nd playthrough for an Advance run. So far everything just gets mashed to death, clearly I only found this difficult the first time because I was trying to play carefully and parry.
Lies needs to make use of the classic 'boss takes 50% less damage during extended transition/knockdown animations' so that getting any kind of stagger isn't a straight up win condition.
>fighting Nameless Puppet
>Geppetto keeps saying Pinocchio is a bratty mischevious puppet that needs correction
He says none of that, what the frick are you on?
Ok, that's not what you posted.
He doesn't say bratty, or correction. I really don't get what you're trying to prove here.
You clowns will argue about anything
No we won't, what a preposterous claim.
i'll wait till its cracked. not supporting anything made by wienerroaches
pre-cathedral 9/10, bloodborne + dark souls
post cathedral, fast ass bosses, no poise, slow handles are shit, too many delayed attacks 6/10
still better than elden turd which is 3/10 for combat balance (lack of)
I just realized that everyone that finds Laxasia easy are actually Aegis shitters.
SAD!
or maybe we know how to parry her lightning
I never used the Aegis on her and I still beat her first try on NG with a slow weapon and on NG+ it took me around 15-20 tries which was a lot, but again no Aegis and I never felt she was unfair. now stop b***hing and git gud you absolute shitter. By the sounds of it you needed like 100 tries on NG due to your serious skill issue.
WHAT WEAPON, SHITTER?
NG the big heavy greatsword special weapon from trading in a boss soul.
NG+ the Golden Lie special weapon from finishing the true ending route.
The Holy Sword of Ark?
no the big blue super fricking heavy one that I think you get from Victor's boss soul. not sure which boss it is that gives it, its required for one of the sidequests too.
Frozen edge
>Frozen Feast
You didn't beat the game.
its fine because when I do NG+2 I'm planning on using the starting dex weapon.
But in all seriousness, it is incredible that you found time to hit phase 2 Laxasia. I was using Live Puppet blade and Pickaxe handle and it was way too frustrating and boring to fight her since I relied on reflecting the lighting balls.
25-30 Advance Build with Full Acidic Crystal Spear with Advance Crank, Parry Grindstone, & Puppet String/Pandemonium. Acid wrecks her armor, her charges are predictable putting her in the puddles, and the spear stabs come out fairly fast to keep her decay'd. Plus when she outzones you, you can punish with throwables from the Malum Merchant for cheap since you just killed the Rabbits. My first run was Motivity/Advance Full Lie amd my NG+ is Full Truth Tech/Advance for Two Dragons+Acidic Spear Handle for Salamander/Acid Spear amd Electric Abrasives/Grindstone for Two Dragons.
Not me.
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>stand in one spot and press parry at the correct time, reset until everything lines up
Meh. I mean well done, but also I bet there are 100 videos of this which all look exactly the same because there's no real expression going on if the fight gets simplified to a timing check like this. Making the parry harder by giving enemies delayed off-beat attacks so you have to grind the fight until you learn each attack timing by heart is really the worst possible way they could have approached this combat design.
what is this cope
A game design criticism, not a complaint about your gameplay. I know you want people to praise you for hitting L1 at the correct time repeatedly and I gave you a (You) for your efforts, but I also think this point blank parry rhythm gaming is rubbish to watch and it's the game's fault for encouraging it. I said so in Sekiro and I'm saying so here.
I wasn't the guy claiming to be stuck on Laxasia.
I was not that guy but rhythm exists in both Sekiro and LOP. You are hating on timing attacks and using counters to damage. What’s the alternative you’ve got?
Please do not reply to The Filtered.
>What’s the alternative you’ve got?
It's amazing that you're asking because it shows how narrowly people think about these games. There are all sorts of variables the game could be playing with outside of just the timing of the parry window. It could be playing with spacing and movement for starters. The video shows the player standing still in the boss's face for almost the entire fight, and when this is how the fight works you make things like the angle and shape, range and movement of attacks irrelevant for both you and the boss. This also makes learning and optimising the fight boring because there isn't anything to think about other than the correct timing of the parry, something you grind out by trial and error.
Your process of learning the fight will be something like
>See attack, get hit by it because the animation is nonsense
>See it enough times that you memorise the timing
>Hit L1, punish
When it could look something like
>See attack, successfully parry it first time because the animation makes sense
>The parry pushes you out of range and you can't punish
>Learn that for this attack specifically you can get a better punish by dodging through it
>Learn later that you can get a better punish by moving away in advance and winding up something big as a whiff punish
>Learn which parts of the moveset give you better advantages if you parry/dodge/outspace/shield/hyperarmour/weapon-i-frame through each of them in turn
>Create an approach to the fight which involves genuinely unique solutions to each part of the bosses moveset and which makes the best use of the particular build and equipment you brought with you
100? Ongbal used two dragons with Aegies. Other no hit I saw were two dragons. Even two dragons is hard to pull off. Sure people gonna beat her as they learn but I doubt there are 100 videos like this.
>technique build
Game status: not beaten.
the frick are you talking about
motivity is easier
>big denuvo game on game pass
>main character named P
>story about an advanced technological society going to hell after the servant robot dolls start killing humans because the creators went rogue
>clockpunk/world fair aesthetic somewhat inspired by bioshock
>level design with lots of looping shortcuts to unlock
>made on unreal
>skill tree
>your sympathetic father figure who created the robots is actually shady and treacherous
>gimmick sidekick, that's also a piece of equipment, won't shut the frick up with obnoxious quip dialogues that ruin the dark tone of the game
>gimmick prosthetic hand with various upgradeable powers central to gameplay
>robot enemies are the main focus but eventually introduces humanoid fongus-zombies
>gameplay with challenging bosses that involves dodging with double dash ability
Is Atomic Heart worth the download? Aside from the metal bawds the game never piqued a shred of interest for me. Compare it to something please.
its basically AA bioshock infinite, except with shitload of annoying gay puzzles, annoying enemies, worse combat and after the initial cool level, level design turns into copypasted rooms and corridors full of shitty puzzles
i didnt play past the first 3hrs so maybe it gets better once you get to the "open world" shit i heard about
Thanks. If it weren't free on gamepass it would be a hard pass but I'll give it a few hours and see. Downloading now.
Not that anon, but it is fun. It's like Bioshock + Far Cry 3, I'd say with a hub-ier open world, it is not true open world neither it is true hub world.
Play with the original Russian audio because the English one is cringe, at least with the Russian one you won't understand a word and it'll feel more authentic.
bioshock mainly, half life 1 and 2, some portal, bit of prey, bit of stalker, fallout vaults, but also some generic open world ubishit
>your sympathetic father figure who created the robots is actually shady and treacherous
Sechenov did nothing wrong tho
Better BB, not as good as Elden Ring and Sakiro.
If it had more build variety (honestly i can barely tell the difference when swapping weapons and handles around) and better enemies and bosses it would be amazing. If they make another game and I hope they do, hopefully they gut out the half the bosses need a second phase meme and get rid of zombies or make them a rare encounter.
would play if i wasn't forced to play as this effeminate twink guy. also the fact that he doesn't look like an actual puppet is fricking gay
>also the fact that he doesn't look like an actual puppet is fricking gay
It's a plot point on several levels actually
that's besides the point. its aesthetically unpleasing and therefore i cant get into the game. its a shame because the game looks like it could be interesting. just think the aesthetics are so goddamn generic. steampunk le dark lovecraftian clockwork shit is so overdone and gay.
It'd be cool if he started the game as a broken puppet with exposed clockwork internals but as his humanity got higher he got magically fixed to look more human.
There should be a bad ending where Pinocchio has minimum humanity + kills every human enemy like Stalkers even optional ones like Black Cat and Red Fox then he just straight up murders Geppetto in a cutscene when asked to give his heart.
>slop outside slop containment
have a nice day
if you perfect block her when she jumps in the air and lands on you and if you perfect block some of her red attacks you can unload quite a lot of damage on her when she is recovering from her animations.
Also her super long combo in phase 1 lasts forever so you can dodge to her side and whack her a few times before she turns around at the end.
meant for
>playing through the game on a new save because I want to see what motivity weapons are like
>hit lorenzini arcade
>lose all will to play
They should have had some areas in the second half that don't look run down and shit
Lorenzini Arcade is my favorite area though.
NTA but what the frick
why
how
for what raisin
I just like indoor/underground mall shit, it reminds me of SMT.
If the shops had more to them in detail I could see it
To get you attached to your level up waifu for story reasons. I will say it does a better job of getting me to like Sophia than the chick in DS2,3 or ER at least.
>if you super parry the followup hit does 50% more damage
cool
Does that stack with Fuoco's amulet?
Just tested it, yes. Counter slash went from 1800 dmg to 2200
Vastly inferior to Nioh 2.
I'm confused can I no longer level up AT stargazers? I have to constantly teleport back to hotel just to level up??
Yes until Act 10. Then for the rest of the game and all of NG+ you can level up at stargazers again.
but
why
tho
After finishing Lies of P tonight I got an itch for Bloodborne.
Bloodborne still holds up. I just replayed it earlier this year. The framerate would be hard to adjust to after P though.
I, uh, I played Lies of P in my Xbox One because of GamePass, so it'll be the same frame rate.
I played BB earlier this year and the framerate really sucked. I dunno how you console guys manage to play this for every single game these days.
You adjust after a while
biggest disappointment to me was FFXVI running at like 40 fps in framerate mode. I get during the big cinematics you need 30 because the PS5 is a pile of shit, but is it really that hard to run the game at stable 60 in its normal areas. Is the PS5 actually that bad, I knew it was shit but I thought it was like 2080 shit, not 980ti shit.
This shit is why I still haven't bought a new console.
For me? It's because I don't buy any new electronics until the one I have fails
t. anon with a 13 years old cellphone
Only times Lies of PeePee screwed me 'cause of low framerate was when it decided to autosave in the middle of boss battles, causing me to fail a perfect parry and get stun locked by prostitute Laxasia.
I played P on PS4 Pro and it's a lot smoother than Bloodborne.
>trying to perfect parry the fricking crazy b***h miniboss in crystal town
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anon it's just blocking, it's not that hard in this game.
Perfect parry, not blocking. Aka the ONGBAL "no u" parry
who?
new porn dropped
Irrumatio with P
I felt like I didn't actually win the fights in which I used the katana.
GOTY for me so far, and I've played from this year quite a few games (TotK, a bit of Starfield, Hi Fi Rush, FE Engage...)
The timing for that parry has to be done so much more in advance than perfect blocking that I think you deserve the victory more than if you used the normal block mechanics.
You guys ARE going to be playing as Carlo when the new dlc drops, right?
I'm still convinced this is actually just the Nameless Puppet's ego larping as Carlo and not Carlo himself
What makes you think that?
It's pretty obviously not really Carlo. We know that Carlo fricking hated his dad for one and I doubt he was a serial killer. It's just Geppetto coping hard and stroking his own pride. Like he himself said, P rejecting him at the end of the game is what Carlo would have done and that P had his personality
It's probably a mix. The Nameless Puppet ring notes that it had multiple ergo cores to increase its power but this causes it to be very unlikely to have an ego and if it DID it would be full of hatred and desire for murder. This is on top of NP's already shit ergo synergy. P's ergo juiced heart + NP probably made him (or made him more of) an amoral murderous schizo which explains the ending
ok by why can't P crawl
I really hope Prime 4 is a 10/10 game.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY THIS GAME LIKE A moron IN ELDEN RING AND TANK EVERYTHING WITH YOUR FACE WHY WOULD YOU USE THE NEW MECHANICS IT OFFERS SINCE ITS JUST A SOULS CLONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
yes, exactly, otherwise you didn't beat it
Is this the best single-player game that has ever come out of Korea?
I loved it. Only thing that sucks is that only certain attacks have hyper armor so fricking EVERYTHING staggers you. Which sucks when you're using a large weapon. My first playthrough I used the big ass transforming sword. Now I am on NG+ and am using the katana. It's pretty fun to time the charged R2 to parry and get a cheeky attack in. I am going to be honest I did not like the demo much. Felt bland. But then I saw some gameplay of later areas with different weapons and my interest was rekindled. I love the secrets in the game and the characters. Good ass music too. Also feels very fair. I never got pissed at the enemy or boss AI. I always felt like it was my fault when I died. Also yeah it plays a lot more like Sekiro than Bloodborne.
Uoh
>Manus created a e-girl doll version of Sophia
what the actual frick did he mean by this?
I kind of want to kill El Gato but I also kind of feel bad. I mean, he didn't hurt anyone when he raided the hotel...
A good game but every dex weapon but the koreaboo sword is shit
Two dragons is good but there's plenty of other good technique weapons.
was there an explanation of why there was a small victor just hanging around before big victor?
There's multiple mutated dudes, Victor was just the most mutated.
5'11 mutated boxer vs. 6'0 mutated boxer
That’s his son. It’s explained in one of the collectibles.
i think the sfms are taking too damn long
Goddamn, frick the Archbishop. I'm having the worst time with this fight. I hate these slow attacks that you think it is a single swing and once you close in, it becomes a fricking combo. These kind of attacks always throw me the frick off. Archbishop's 2nd phase can frick off. I hate multiphase fights.
oh boy you will fricking love the rest of the bosses, swamp monster will make you foam from the mouth
>Having trouble with Archbishop
my first playthrough he took me an entire day to beat. in NG+ I one shot his ass. You don't need to parry everything in this game sometimes just running away/strafing is enough to send their attacks on a wild goose chase while you get free hits in.
>I hate these slow attacks that you think it is a single swing and once you close in, it becomes a fricking combo.
>I hate multiphase fights.
you may as well slit your own throat right now because that's exactly what awaits you for the rest of the game
Invest in stamina and the aegis
fight his ass not his face
also only parry red attacks, dodge the rest
it’s about pinocchio. that’s cringe as frick. will never play this game
It's quality, I don't know if they "fixed" the parrying with the nerf patch or what but the game feels like a nice blend of sekiro and BB especially as it gets further along, it's not as good as either of them but certainly better than trash like DS2 or the majority of Souls rip-offs.
Here’s how I would’ve written the story if it were my game
1) Gepetto invents the puppet. It results in man not needing to work as much. Gepetto is hailed a god.
2) Hedonism rises resulting in the plague. It claims the life of Geopetto’s wife and son.
3) He’s unable to cope with loss and the world’s devil (the blue fairy) comes to him with a deal. There a two conditions:
-She’ll bring back his son if he offer his puppets to her and the lives of the people of Krat who once admired him. Essentially she places the torment souls of people from hell into the puppets, giving them life and making them go skynet on humans.
-Gepetto has to create a puppet that he feels is worthy of housing his son’s soul, and the puppet has to prove himself worthy to the fairy before Carlo is brought back. To prove himself worthy, Pinocchio has to travel around Krat to manually activate beacons built around they city that will shut down puppets within their radius. If all of them are turned on, the whole city should be puppet free.
4) Geppetto doesn’t tell Pinocchio about the deal with fairy, he just pretends he doesn’t know what caused the puppet frenzy.
5) Only at the end is it revealed what Gepetto was a cause of the frenzy, and you’re given a choice to either activate the final beacon and let Carlos soul take over your body, or leave the final beacon, which results in Carlo’s soul being returned to heaven.
Thoughts? Too simplistic? I just don’t really understand ergo, I feel this makes more sense for my simpleton brain.
who asked?
Best Souls game/like/clone after Scholar.
Did 4 runs so far. Would play more, but I'm focused on Forza now.
If you used aegis you did not beat the game
I don't understand how to use Aegis effectively.
Use it on moves that are hard to parry and dodge. Try to use it when the explosive had recharged it. Get the poke ability and on low health bosses literally just hold up the aegis and chip away their health until they die.
6/10
>people actually covered up Pinochs beautiful face
Sometime I feel I’m the only person in this world with any taste
I did after the hair change, I like his base form. Didn't realize the Shape Change was appearance until NG+. This was pretty much my look through all 3 playthroughs I did.
long hair > short hair.
Worry not, my final build at the end...
Aegis is just there to be there, I don't use it.
drains the swamp where the Puppet of the Future is.
Oh.
I killed that thing by just tanking through the poison damn
The fury attacks piss my off so much. The attacks are so wildly inconsistent. Sometimes I just have to dodge once to not get hit, other times I’m getting hit unless I sprint across the map, sometimes the parry window is giant, other times you are guaranteed to miss if you attempt to parry, sometimes my aegis will block them, other times it won’t. This also applies to the non fury moves. Frick me.
Code Vein was better
Because you're a coomer with a porn addiction but won't admit it
I APPRECIATE THE ACHIEVEMENT SYSTEM LETTING ME KNOW WHICH BOSSES AREN'T TWO PHASES SO I CAN UNCLENCH
ALSO FRICK BOSSES ATTACKING AGAIN ON THE WAY TO BECOMING VULNERABLE TO FATAL ATTACKS
THE SECOND FOUR RABBITS FIGHT IS MY FAV FIGHT IN THE GAME
So far this is the best weapon combination I've discovered in the game. It also has the highest damage of any weapon so far and the highest I've been able to push the numbers to. You're looking at about 670 physical damage, not quite 700, but I don't think you can get anything to 700. 670 is the highest I've been able to go.
It can one shot most fodder enemies on NG++ and the damage to bosses is pretty good as well. It also makes pretty quick work of the harder/bigger enemies with beefier HP in certain stages.
I just got to the mulum district, is it me or are there way less dex weapons than str early game? All ive found is the rapier, the umbrella, the fire dagger, and the booster glaive. I can't even mix most of the weapons because they just don't go well together. My first thought was to switch the dex rapier blade to the scimitar handle or the fire dagger but nope, it fricking sucks ass.
I was so disappointed to find the holy greatsword that turns into a polearm. It has such a cool moveset but is shit for me because I'm pure dex.
you could always convert balanced weapons into dex. its not too much of a trade off. you'll get a B scaling, not A.
I don't understand how Souls fans play the same exact game every year, sometimes multiple times per year with minor variations to aesthetics. Every single one of these games plays exactly the same. They're all great games, but they're also the same great game. If the aesthetics and story at least changed a lot, that would be one thing but they all basically have the same plot and the aesthetic changes don't amount to much.
Whenever somebody makes a game mildly inspired by the souls games alongside other inspirations and original ideas, souls toddlers screech that the devs "didn't understand what makes these games work". They want the same shit every time.
This is also facilitated by the fact that these games disproportionately attract right-wing-leaning personalities with a conservative and essentialist mentality. Importantly, they believe that genres are prescriptions and that when somebody does something new and different from others in relevant genres, they are doing it wrong simply because it's different.
are there any fast handles for Motivity besides Police baton? I want to use 2 weapons, and have them both A Scaling with Motivity.
Police baton/baton Handle as my main. Then for bosses Saw-Cutting Blade/ some kind of slightly faster handle that gives B or A scaling in Motivity.
I'm at Malum district if that helps.
>Tell Gepetto hes been a good father
>Humanity level goes up
Carlo knows its a lie especially if you do the Venigni side quest but hey he's his dad.
>Gepetto asks if he's been a trustworthy father to you
>tell him yes because despite his methods, Manus had to be stopped
>he's an insane frick job during Nameless Puppet
Doing a whole new run just to tell him to frick off.
the one truth it told
What was Alidoro's fricking problem?
>find the Venigni fanclub coin
>his butler tells me it will let me buy Venigni's outfit
>it doesn't
God fricking DAMN I HATE CUT CONTENT RESOLD AS DLC
What are all the NG+ rings?
I was ambivalent after the first two or three areas, but I’ve now that I’ve installed the nude mod I’m a little more excited about playing it
best non-fromsoft soulslike by fricking far
the timing for perfect block is tight, but it's very satisfying once you get it down. i have seen people complain about it being to linear, which it is, but personally i didn't see much issue with that. hope we'll see a dlc and maybe a sequel down the line
Hope they continue on with fableborne story. Since Oz is up next and Alice in Wonderland has a lot of potential I wonder what others would work with this style
I got into the Oz series about two years ago, and wished someone would make a gothic horror game out of the subject, so the teaser at the end made me giddy as hell.
Themed puppets > humans with animal masks > plain puppets > zombie infected puppets > zombies
My god the last sections of this game are soulless
yeah they really coulda done more puppet shit, and if they decide to do zombies just have basic zombies, and the baja blast shit just work off all the other puppets like usual + new puppets
didn't want more archbishop ass lookin enemies at all
Wow, they really go full bad ending if you become a real boy. No ambiguity there.
>you have to leave sophia alive for one of the endings
honestly, i have save backups, but i cant be fricked to go through the corridor of enemy spam and the final 2 bosses again. i guess i will always be 2 achievements short of plat'ing this game until I revisit it (the other one is missing a record from not lying to belle kek)
I rarely used the landmine, explosive gun, or flamethrower honestly. They kind of suck compared to string/aegis/electrohand/poison hand
landmine saved me a bit of grief on my first run, and I'm going with the flamethrower on my second.
You probably have to upgrade them. But yeah, aegis had too much utility.
A solid 8. Fun, but way too blatant in what it is trying to emulate which honestly weighs it down
It's definitely not original but there hasn't been another came that copies the souls formula quite as well. My biggest problem is the normal enemies aren't that interesting. 8/10 seems right
Yeah, it is a great game still worth buying and playing, but I dont think it is something ill go back to replay or anything, and there are a couple of pretty standout moments to set it apart from the pack.
The bosses are pretty good. The Swamp boss was a really well done difficult boss. The two gank fights were obnoxious, but you can see they tried to do something interesting.
Laxasia is one of the hardest soulslike bosses. I ended up cheesing her second phase with the aegis.
The level design is pretty awful though. It's super linear, all of the interconnectivity shit in fake, and pointless. All of the item placements are very gamey. The puppet enemies were cool to fight, but the human and zombie enemies were dogshit. The atmosphere was really good until the final area. The final area felt like they copied in another game they had lying around, it was so bad and out of place.
Story started out interesting, but it turned into shit. Everything about the alchemists sucked both gameplaywise with their shitty uninspired enemies, and the story.
Weapon system was cool.
They tried to do a lot with status effects, but failed.
Felt like they should have thrown in a good gimmick boss like ceaseless discharge tier of something. maybe a gwyndolin(troony?) type of thing. to give it just a little extra variety.
i dont mind linear but yeah i feel that. the cryptic vessels and quests did allow for some backtracking which was nice though.
alchemist shit and the baja blast boys was a bummer. never liked fighting those. didn't mind the puppet alterations though, just hated the carcass mutation shit types.
weapons were nice. they backload a lot of them after chapter what, 7? a lot of them feel kinda meh too. not a lot of motive scaling handles to choose from early on. it was either a handful of dex, 50% c/c scaling and like 2 frickin motive b's
The only good thing about the game was making the bosses feel fun with the twin dragons sword since their parries were unconditional stuns. Boss has a 10-hit combo I don't want to bother memorizing because I'd rather just be playing Sekiro instead? Twin dragon parry that shit. Love that weapon.
Them throwing in zombies in the last third of the game and abandoning puppets altogether was genuinely awful, one of the worst drops in quality in the third acts I've ever seen in a video game.
>twin dragon korean sword
yeah you didn't really beat it, unironically. using that shit is broken.
Cope, I ain't learning your shit korean knockoff until they make the parrying fun to do. Shit if they even added in a stagger bar on the enemy so I could see myself making progress in fights by just parrying their combos that'd be an instant and huge improvement.
ironically you're using a asiatic sword.
god dex gays are so frickin laaaaaaame
And we're both playing a bad asiatic game, so I guess we're both moronic
well i used a weapon invented by a Black person. a big ol wrench
NG+ is scaled way too high. It needs better weapon scaling or more weapon upgrades. Otherwise fun.
It is at the very beginning but shortly it's whatever, esp. with your P Organ upgrades and the armor upgrades. By the time you hit NG++ you're essentially spending levels to spend levels and it's not much different.
I wanna say there's like 10? of each per NG, could be wrong. Don't recall them being infinite ever.
am i banned? also theres hardly any replayability for this game. does it feel really short for anyone? im already bored of it no incentives to play around with weapon/handle combinations or anything
Are there a limited amount of cranks? I’ve been applying motive cranks to every neat heavy weapon I come across instead of conserving.
i cant get a PS5 copy anywhere, cmon get it together fellas
Janky combat and obnoxious enemies and bossfights with le maymay delayed attacks and
>different attacks with different speeds using the same telegraph animation
Wow I sure love those! They makr me die a few more times to the boss and that's all that matters in these games! (Unless it's Dark souls 2, there it's bad)
If only the game completely copied Dark Souls' combat 1:1 to the tiniest detail, then you wouldn't have to learn how to play other games. Why are Gankerirgins so shit at adapting? I thought you praised yourselves as true gamers.
There's no "adapting" since the only thing that matters is memorising the moveset of each new boss/miniboss you face, meaning you don't learn to get better as the game progresses, but you have these constant spikes in the difficulty move for each new major encounter
You're incapable of learning and memorizing?
it's not fun to start from sratch with every new bossfight, especially when the animations are puprosefully designed to be unreadable in an intuitive way
What's the point of animating enemy attacks in an action title about the fantasy of melee combat when your animations don't tell the player anything useful and the actual gameplay is just a timing memorisation mini-game?
Actually when they make engaging with enemy movesets complete shit by having every animation be a misleading gotcha, the winning move is to just swing wildly and not even try to interact with or learn the enemies.
Anon, you are an idiot for posting that webm because at 0.09, the player dodges the enemy string precisely because he knows his charged attack ducks him under the diagonal slash and then he dodges away from the obvious and slow pancake. Trying to unbanga this bot just invites a pancake into a 5-hit shovel slam into the dirt that reddit still cries over to this day
>the player
It's me dumbass. I didn't duck under shit, I just ran away from it because trying to time parries against these troll animations is a losing game.
It felt off. Too much focus on combat and "muh bosses xd".
No sense of wonder or mystery.
The last time I saw this much frothing rage and hatred towards a game was... anything Nintendo ever releases, actually. What did Lies of P do to elicit such rage?
Obnoxious fans
"fear and hunger" pops into my head looking at this pic
it's a game in the soulslike genre and because Ganker fricking sucks at games they shit and piss their pants in rage at these types of games constantly.
Which genre does Ganker hate more, souls-like or open world?
Ganker is the reason souls became big in the first place
anyone seething at souls is a neogay/reddit immigrant
It's mostly 1 autistic seaBlack person frothing at Korea.
Tired of the shills that oversell this game
Its a competent souls ripoff. No its not better than any from game, it cant even tie miyazakis shoelaces. If the fanboys and shills for this game were more honest about this game instead of dealing in hyperboles then maybe they wouldnt get shit on. But if you say dumb shit like ‘better on bloodborne’ you best have a game that fricking matches that kind of smack talk. This is a game with an 80 metacritic and a sea of 7s and 8s. That aint beating bloodborne, sorry
Unrelated, frick goy pass indian shills
Fromdrones hate competition, only From is allowed to make soulslikes
It competes as much with from games as the surge or some shit. All the reviews give it a 7 or an 8. Its good not great.
You cannot compete through plagiarism without doing your own thing. Nioh and wo long do their own thing and are respectable counterparts to souls. This and lords of the fallen are just blatant ripoffs that an AI could have made
To put it in perspective, souls/elden ring/sekiro is mario, the original. Then nioh and wo long are sonic, its a response to mario but still does its own thing and carves its own niche.
All other soulslikes are blatant ripoffs, like all the mario clones that have fallen by the wayside and forgotten like plok, bubsy, mr nutz, spyro, jak and daxter, crash, banjo kazooie, etc
Lies is a lot better than the Surge and I'm a guy complaining about Lies constantly in these threads. Not because I'm a shitposting hater but because it's good enough that I care about it and would like it to do certain things better because it's not far off being really great.
I absolutely adore this game. Gameplay, setting, story, characters, bosses, music, the main femboy, basically everything
Do you like the cum aspect?
Is link dodge good for the p-organ? seems good but idk
YES. PUT TWO QUARTZ UNDER THE PRETTY PICTURE TO GET THE ABILITY. LINK DODGE IS SO GOOD
should i try to parry all the time? My brain keeps telling me to go for the risk but I don't actually know if it's worth it
Ive beaten NG+. For lessers and enemies, do not bother unless theyre the juicier spongier ones. For bosses I parried most attacks and just dodged through timings i couldnt get down.
Better than most souls. I love all the frombabies crying about unfair timings like: "wahhh how am i supposed to perfect guard that in time its so fast" endlessly. Where did the game say you had to perfect guard everything? You can simply guard and get your hp back with guard regain or you can also dodge. The only bullshit red attack is the nameless puppet and that's the final boss so i think it's fine to have a bullshit attack there.
Stop sniveling about how you didn't beat the boss first try because move hard to le perfect guard you fricking pathetic cry baby homosexuals.
You sound like a baby. Go poop your pants
oh shit, that no u epically burned him, dawg
So in the factory sewers shit I pulled a level after fighting the fire "scarecrow" thing with the shovel.
wtf did that lever do?? nothing changed that I saw
>start new playthrough from scratch after beating ng++
>die to every boss again at least once or twice
>die to black rabbit like 10 times
>beat Romeo first try
Did they really nerf him that hard?
>pick up a letter
>Descartes
The [D]
I refuse to play a niche game. By principle.
Korean devs had to brag about their fricking Twitch viewer count and do a collab with Wo Long. Doesn't help they quietly added Denuvo because they knew the backlash would hurt their sales.
I just unlocked the gold coin tree. What's the best wishstones to get first?
Nothing, wishstone is completely fricking useless.
I only use it to carry around a bit of extra Legion to pop between trash enemies if I'm exploring.
Sorry "Exploring", to the degree which can be supported in this game which is not much.
Wishes are useless unless you're using specters
the healing one just saved me in the archbishop fight
I am. The cheesier it makes aggravating boss fights, the better,
I used it as an extra heal
Friendship wishstone is the best one
Also I notice there's some sort of icon next to Malum District Town Hall on the stargazer list. What's up with that?
It's either an icon showing where you are or a head showing you there's an NPC to talk to there
Edge gave it a 7/10 and called this shit a forgery
“Its such a fine forgery it could convince scholars for a time, before they identified it as the work of a gifted student”
asiatics are truly shameless soulless bugs. Why are they such blatant ripoff artists? Dont they have any imagination or brain of their own?
>Edge
Edge is a marketing wing of the Western gaming industry, bought and paid for and nobody they currently employ has ever had an interesting opinion about anything.
I keep seeing people with that outfit. Where do you find it? Completely missed it on my first run.
one of the trinity rooms
Workshop Master Outfit? Trinity Key room like 3 feet from the Krat Station Stargazer your second time around.
And yet they love fromsoftware games. Dark souls was no 2 on their best games of all time list for this months issue, and starfield got a 6/10
OK? You sound like you don't hate journalists enough and may have stumbled in here from Resetera but I'm willing to accept the possibility that you're spacing your posts like that on purpose and this is an elaborate falseflag operation.
I didn't know this was called ResetEra spacing.
Why is that?
Better than any Fromsoftware game. The story kills Sekiro’s story.
Game of the Year with Tears of the Kingdom close behind, and the System Shock Remake in 3rd
pretty average but better than BB and most of From's soulslikes which isn't saying much since all it requires is a story to be better than any Fromsoft game.
soulless 7/10, meh soundtrack, meh dialogue, meh story, meh characters, ok gameplay clone
you have too much healing already
not gay but would if he wore a girly skirt/10
> DLC confirmed
nice
How well does this run on a 1060 6GB? Kinda thinking of picking it up in the absence of other games that interest me atm.
Pretty fun.
The church/villager stuff put me off at first. But I'm glad the game got back to puppets and more victorian aesthetics.
Victor was a fun boss fight.
The game needs more fashion/head gear to collect, and sport.
What are the odds Lords of the Fallen ends up better than Lies of P?
idk, I didn't like the shaky cam and over the top animations in promo materials for lotf. I was skeptical of LoP animations at first too, but I've grown to like some of the moveset a lot. LotF has giga-dodge and sekiro-parry (possibly with easier timing than LoP), so it might end up easier btw
how is anybody excited for LotF? Didn't you play the first one?
The first game sucked, but previews of Lords look much better. Also, different devs and rebooted universe I think
I had zero expectations for P and it turned out great. First LotF was one of the first soulslikes and it sucked a bag of dicks.
I am cautiously optimistic about this reboot thing but I have no idea why they thought anybody was clamoring for more LotF.
I have 0 expectation for Lords of the Fallen because youtubers are constantly shilling it and turns out review copies were given to them and no negative comments were allowed to be posted. It is corrupt Polish/European cash grab.
Watching Oroboro play it early right now and the movement/attacking looks a bit floaty compared to P, but it's still the tutorial area so we'll see.
>"watching [favorite strummer] play it now"
gigacringe
You're deranged
What? I don't even follow that guy, but he was on the front page streaming early footage.
More like Lies of Penis feeling funny, heh
God, I want to pound that tight bussy until it doesn't close anymore.
I want to see that puppet bussy broken in by the Black Rabbit Brotherhood tbh
Everytime Gepetto called him a "good boy" I got weirded out, kek. Who would go so far to commit genocide for their son? I don't know any father who cares that much for their child.
normal people wouldnt get weirded out by that, you know
>Who would go so far to commit genocide for their son?
I can tell you're not a father.
Most people would absolutely die for their children, it's just that on top of that, he's a crazy old man
Die is one thing. Mass murder is another. I haven't seen instances of people committing mass murder for their kids in public. And war doesn't count.
I love my kids. But if I had the power to bring em back from the dead by killing everyone in town, Id just have to learn to let it go. It's not that I'm against being evil, it's just too much of a hassle and risk.
Coombrain ruined me
>Update
Well yeah but he's also crazy, that's the part that makes him commit genocide, not because he's a creep
Also there was one note where he implied he's not mad at Carlo anymore. Did he beat Carlo when he was human or something? Or did they have an argument?
>Did he beat Carlo when he was human or something? Or did they have an argument?
it might be implied that Carlo ran away to be a stalker after an arguement with dad, which led to his death in the memory sands
I wonder what they argued about. Carlo was probably spending too much on Onlyfans and it hurt Gepetto's budget.
Who knows, but I didn't get that vibe. I think he was just neglecting Carlo because he wasn't the son he wanted him to be, so he lost interest in him.
>neglected by father
>become femme boy twink
>suddenly father cares
OH NO NO NO
I think he was just too invested in his work after coming to Krat and just left his son in a boarding school and never visited him. Then after Carlo died in the Rose Estate disaster he went nuts.
I wish the give your heart ending didn't have spooky music to tell you how to feel. I consider it a good ending. Gepetto gets his boy and they leave on vacation together. Frick the people of Krat.
Get off Ganker, Geppetto
Puppeteer hands typed this post
>Good ending
>Killing your home boy Vengini and Cutie Eugenie
No way gay. Maybe if Gepetto wasnt a douchebag and left the Hotel crew alone
>Eugenie
>cute
raise your standards dude
He's right, consider getting tested for COVID
>Always be a good boy for me, my son.
He was grooming P to surrender the heart from the first exchange.
If they had toned it down a bit I wouldn't have seen it coming, but it was pretty obvious after he said that line. I couldn't trust him again.
If you put yourself in P's shoes though it makes sense that he wouldn't have picked up on it. He was only a few hours old and barely had any memories.
Still wish they had been more subtle
the puppet king straight up shows you what gepetto was trying to do to you, they couldn't have beat it over your head any more clearly
Yeah but what I'm saying is that even before that he was extremely sus
I don't totally understand King of Puppets.
1. Did Geppetto use Romeo's ergo on purpose, or by accident?
2. Was he a "high end" puppet like Carlo? Maybe even a prototype for Carlo?
3. Did Geppetto build the big king body? Why was there a king of puppets to begin with? Was he specifically created by Geppetto as a fall guy to take the blame for the frenzy? The note on the ergo says "When the boy opened his eyes, he found himself sitting on a throne that he had not asked for", so it seems like MAKING HIM the King was part of the scheme?
>1. accident
>2. prototype
>3. he built it himself with the help of that Fuoco puppet. His ego awakened inside his actual puppet body, and his memories were intact, so he knew Gepetto couldn't be trusted. He organized the puppets to fight off the alchemists and the monsters, which is why after you kill him and his lieutenants (good boy) the puppets become disorganized and the monsters start taking over
>I don't totally understand King of Puppets
That's because the relevant information isn't in the game, everyone just refers to the King of Puppets without it being fleshed out.
It seems weird that Venigni appears to know more than he lets on about the origins of the King.
I don't think he fully understands, but he's getting close to the truth of it all. That's why Gepetto gets Calro to kill everyone in the hotel during the bad end, gotta tie up all those loose ends
There's this note in the Opera house that suggests someone put Romeo's ergo into a puppet so that it could "exact revenge". Or at least I think it's referring to him, it's pretty vague.
>physical sensitivity
what did they mean by this
It's confusing especially alongside the boss amulet note:
>They were three bodies, but their mind was one. The mind that sought revenge against the puppets by killing them the way their brother was killed.
This seems almost more like it's referencing BRB or Nameless Puppet.
Fairly certain that is referring to the BRB
One dude is allowed to stream LotF on twitch right now. I don't like the aesthetic and the camera shake, but now you can judge for yourself
>Geppetto dying in P's arms
>Zooms in on his face
>Still wearing the donkey mask from the first area
fricking kekd
>losing to a boss for n-th time
>Gepettos voice can be heard from far away
Are you winning, son?
i wish i was cute like the boy
What's the level range for NG+? I'm 80, and Murphy really kicked my shit in, took more tries than any NG boss.
>full Truth playthrough
>reach Gepetto at the end
>literally doesn't even give you the option to refuse
k-kino...
Impressive. Very nice. Especially for their first game of this kind.
>realise that Geppetto has the trunk in bad ending, standing outside of the hotel
>Geppetto leaves to clean up Krat, somehow, without the Nameless Puppet as his weapon anymore
>we can't find P's puppet corpse anywhere
>mfw Geppetto put P in the trunk and P's body became his new "nameless puppet"
Wh-why does he keep his body around?
But like, why so much effort for your kid? I know he's crazy, but once he finally settles down with nameless puppet somewhere he's gonna realize how annoying kids are and regret it
Consider that his wife presumably died. When something like that happens to a man they invest all of the emotions they have left in the child of the woman they loved.
Wonder what the dlc will be about. It seems wizard of Oz will be sequel, because the director implied dlc would revolve around Pinocchio still. But doesn't he die in two endings?
Enemies in this game have the most bullshit attack pattern/options ive ever seen. Bosses randomly busting out 9 hit combos into unlockable. Regular mobs doing the most random of attacks out of no where. The animation cancels and random as frick delays. I like this game but that is actually the most off putting shit. Maybe im finally starting to get old.
I'm sure some of it is unintentional. I'd like to see if their future games feel a little smoother.
Gepetto did nothing wrong. He did what's right for his family and that's all that matters. And he built a wonderful twink for us. We should all be grateful. It's not my fault the puppet frenzy happened. (You) simply haven't been a good boy.
I got the king of riddles's key from the malus district. Am I wasting my time trying to find the door in this area or is it further into the game? Been searching for the last 15 minutes. You don't have to tell me where it is, just if it's in the malus district or not.
The king of riddles keys almost always lead to different areas in the game. Usually earlier levels but I know one is towards the very end of the game.
Usually the key opens a door in the previous zone you just came from.
There isn't one in the Malus District. They're not in the same zone as the phones.
I feel like I was the only one fooled by Geppetto. I thought he was perhaps up to something, but I truly believed that he thought of P as a son and genuinely loved him. I felt so fricking betrayed at the end, I just thought he was a sad old man using P as a replacement but I didn't think he was going to try to do something so twisted and manipulative.
I soifaced when listening to the message from Romeo, I was genuinely shocked.
>hear Romeo's message
>shellshocked
>Vegnini immediately asks what it says
>clocks ticking
>panicking
>lie and say I couldn't make it out
d-did I do the right thing?
It makes Venigni relieved if you tell him the truth because he realizes it wasn't his fault that the Covenant failed but I'm not sure if it actually makes a difference.
Some anon linked this the other day and I thought it was fascinating. This is a cinematic trailer nearly 2 years old at this point but it hints at Gepetto's activities prior to him getting hassled by Donkey. Non-canon obviously but still worth watching.
Important question:
Did Gepetto give P genitals?
Why or why not
>Did Gepetto give P genitals?
no. as you become more human you grow one though, you can see your bulge get bigger the more humanity you get
Bullshit. Bullshit?
I know you're memeing but would be hilarious if true. I heard that P "grunts" more the more human you are. But I don't know if that's just insane made up shit based on nothing.
No that's true, he makes almost no sounds at the start of the game and gradually he starts grunting more.
Wait what the frick really? So the grunting and shadow/painting nose is real. Any other changes become noticible? (I know about the hair).
He does in fact start vocalizing/twitching/blinking more the more humanity you acquire.
Oh, THAT's why P was twitching when standing still.
his body twitches when he's full puppet too, but it becomes less mechanical and more smooth the more humanity you get
he grunts when you dodge, then when you start attacking the more humanity you get. His facial muscles twitch and his eyes move around more. You can also hear him breathing. You no longer get the mechanical wind up sounds when you use charge attacks either
>no longer get mechanical wind up sound
How does that even work? I get mimicking behaviors, but if your body needs to process things to attack, I don't see how being more human-like changes that. Unless his body is magically changing into human flesh and organs.
>Unless his body is magically changing into human flesh and organs
anon...
I'll be honest, I thought his soul was becoming more human. And he was becoming less puppet in personality. I had no idea his internal organs were changing. Why doesnt he bleed when hit then?
you're not becoming a human, you're becoming something in-between a human and a puppet. That also happens to make you immortal, which is gonna be a key plot point of the inevitable DLC/Sequel
So P doesn't die when he's embraced by Sofia? I don't know how I feel. I'm gonna be sad with the ensemble cast gone. Puppet Gepetto when
Serves Vegnini right for doing nothing after telling him Gepetto caused the frenzy
Lies of Oz
Makes sense, considering the lore.
>So P doesn't die when he's embraced by Sofia?
no, you can see his face move when she pulls her hand back
>For doing nothing.
What exactly was he supposed to do? Gepetto was on Alchemist Alcatraz and the damage was already done/addressed. Best he could do was help you get to him which he did
>what could he do
Fricking leave while P was pre-occupied tracking Gepetto down.
>Fricking leave
>When the city is falling apart and swarming with monsters
>the world is in chaos
>should I go somewhere filled with other NPCs and take refuge with them, or one of the areas P cleared out already?
>no, I will stay with the man who threw the world in chaos. That's safer.
Actual brain dead behavior.
Isnt Gepetto already gone at that point? Also its said repeatedly that Hotel Krat was the last refuge in the city. The only other speculated one was the Cathedral and we saw how that place ended up
Why IS the hotel a relatively safe refuge? BB had that incense handwave to explain why the sanctuary was safe.
It had a top tier security system keeping puppets, monsters, and crazies out. The BRB were only able to get in because that homosexual Alidoro turned it off from the inside to let em in
Ah, thanks. I forgot about fricking Alidoro's betrayal and the front door screening for puppets.
Yeah P is fine in the RoP ending. He was just moving Sophia's soul/ergo that she gave to him into a new body
Whats stopping P from putting the souls of Romeo, Gepetto and his other dead Nakama into new bodies?
Impression I got is with the othet ones its more a part of of the ergo as it passes on. Sophia is a weird case as she is a Listener and imparted it onto P of her own volition
I think Romeo's soul is chilling out in P's heart (gay) along with Carlo's after you defeat him, it's probably best to just leave him alone than make him suffer with another revival
Thanksgiving must be awful
K I N O
I can't hear him breathing at all
tell more lies
What even happens if you let the timer run out during the lie/truth segments?
It just selects the option that's highlighted.
Not sure. It reminds me of Kowloon High School where you had a similar timer to respond to all conversations, but in that game there was unique dialogue if you didn't say anything.
I just got done killing the Rabbits. I have to wonder, how much stuff I've missed. Is there a lot of stuff you can miss in this game if you don't comb over every zone in detail like in dark souls/bloodborne?
There's a few secrets you might miss if you're not looking out for them, like the weapon you can get in the Cathedral by riding the right-most water wheel (coming into the room from the entrance) to a platform leading to a chest.
that's the double-sided spear right? I got that
slop for low IQ morons
>The Atoned lady randomly starts attacking me near the lift when I'm just searching for a door, had no choice but to kill her
why did she do it bros?
if you go back to her after "tricking" her with the stalker emote, she gets pissed and auto-aggros you
Combing and braiding P's long hair
kinda wish P got even longer hair instead of it just turning gray
The specter that looks like him has longer hair, maybe it will get longer later
yeah, I'm pretty sure he didn't even blink before getting long hair.
I was expecting more changes but it's really just > long > gray. Neat mechanic regardless.
Worth noting that P's idle animation also gets "twitchier" the more human he gets. Nice touch
there's so many places in this game that feel like they should have something there but they apparently don't. Anyone else feel that?
yes anon, the game is linear. We know already
what does that have to do with what I wrote? I'm talking about, for example, you go into a room off the side and there's just nothing in it.
typical mind-broken soulsbab. No not every side area has to have a shiny thing to make your lizard brain dripfeed you happy chemicals
okay, then what is the point of those rooms from a game design perspective? I'm not saying they should all have items, but having a bunch of empty rooms is just weird.
it's more realistic dipshit
>Sophia
>Monad
>Sophia gives P her light to make him human
Are Koreans gnostic?
Yes, all Koreans believe the same thing and have the exact same spirituality.
I knew it, fricking bug people and their hivemind.
The combat system is phenomenal and reaches the heights of From’s games. The style and enemy design is above good. The actual levels suffer from being too many combat corridors with not enough exploration or meaningful alternate routes and falls short of From’s usual quality.
Solid game with occasional flashes of brilliance. I hope it’s enough of a success that the direct sequel happens.
What will Dorothy's game be called? Clicks of D?
probably something generic like Lies of P: Dorothy
That makes no sense unless it’s DLC.
>That makes no sense unless it’s DLC.
I was under the impression the dorothy shit was 100% gonna be DLC
PUMPS OF DICKS
>those fricking white puppets that look like the robots from that I, Robot will smith movie
creepy
Nothing scarier than a shitty Will Smith scifi abortion...
This dude nearly ruined my enjoyment of the story
>lies like an evil maniac
>generic wanna become God shounen jrpg garbage
>boring, easy boss fight
>wants to "get rid of lies" (lmao)
>all cuz his daddy was mean to him (what the frick)
>btw he's implied to be a god (seethe the scaleless ripoff?)
Laughs like an evil maniac*
My b
I can't believe that at any point during his transformation he looked at his disfigured form and thought "oh yeah, this is totally working".
I wish his personality extended beyond "im evil"
Doesn't change the fact that venigni was alive by the time you find him, in the place with probably the densest population of puppets in the game, lore-wise. If literal children wearing masks can survive hiding in streets, theres no excuse he can't find a nook or cranny to hide in.
>I wish his personality extended beyond "im evil"
My eyes practically rolled out of my head when he showed up after that one boss purely to monologue at the player. Hamfisted.
But why would he? He is literally already in the safest place in the city. Ypu are asking him to exit safety because "the guy who fricked things happened to stay here before but isnt here now"
>Why stay in the home base of the most dangerous man in the city. Certainly, there's no chance he'd come back, right?
How do they get in if dont invite him to the hotel?
Its not his base. It's Antonia's, and she is cool for the most part. Gepetto was a guest who was gone by the time the truth was revealed
As for how Alidoro got in, probably played up the Alidoro rep card and being more approachable. His dickhead antics only recently got him some bad rep with less parties. The BRB were well known shitheads that nobody liked and I think Cat and Fox had some notoriety as well due to Fox being related to a top dog dangerous family
>wants to "get rid of lies" (lmao)
>all cuz his daddy was mean to him (what the frick)
It was more that he was born with the ability to read minds/memories (including the true depths of how much of a failure his father considered him to be) and it drove him a bit batty.
Millions of young men have fathers who are openly disappointed with them. He needs to cope.
I hated how it had neat story then turned into an anime, exclusively when he's on screen. I hope they tone that shit down in the sequel. Then again, Oz himself is a spectacle by design. So I wouldn't mind him being over the top.
Millions of young men can't read the minds of everyone around them and realize just how many lies everyone tells one another every day, including to his face.
There are tons of mentally ill distrustful people who thinks everyone is lying to them on conspiring against them. They do not become cartoon supervillains.
Licking P's feet and sucking his toes