RTX 4080 Super: January 31, 2024
RTX 4070 TI Super: January 27, 2024
>The RTX 4070 SUPER, representing the most substantial improvement in the series, is poised to deliver a 20% increase in cores compared to its non-SUPER counterpart. The CUDA core specifications have now been increased to 7680 cores. Contrary to certain rumors, this model is confirmed to feature 36MB of L2 cache, not 48MB as some have speculated
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i'm glad i bought the 4080 at launch
waitgays lose again
>waitgays lose again
How do waitgays lose you coper homosexual
keep waiting :o*~~*~~*~~*~~
Dude bought a 4080 to browse Ganker.
Leave him alone!!!
You waited 14 months to get 10% more performance from the base 4080. Congratulations you win I guess.
Didn't need it then. Need it now.
5090 is gonna be late 2025. Too long to wait.
5090 and 5080 are releasing this November. The 5080 is most likely going to be 30% more powerful than the 4090 if the rumors are true.
>30% uplift
That has literally never happened before despite Nvidia claiming that with every single new graphics card release.
Usually it's 7-20%.
>dlss that the 30 series doesn't have makes it slower than the 40 series, therefore 30% uplift is real, checkmate
Unironically have a nice day.
See above or there was something else wrong with your computer.
>See above or there was something else wrong with your computer.
no there isn't
my 3090 is roughly 50% fps my 4090.
And nobody will buy it because it isn't necessary and will be $2000 + tip
It's also $200 less than the original on release.
>10%
5% at most
>waitgays lose again
What, did they increase the price?
Any new games worth playing to warrant the upgrade?? Yeah thought so.
Path of Exile 2
Sequel to best ARPG of all time
Insane graphics
I am 100% getting this card for it
100% owned by Tencent/Chinese government
You don't know anything about the topic, mutt
Tencent has zero control over GGG, their deal was they buy the shares to share profits, but that GGG remains in full control
The game would have been ruined back when the deal happened like 6 years ago if Tencent had become able to have any say in development
Maybe look at PoE2 recommended system specs on Steam, and look at gameplay, the graphics are top of the line and as an ARPG in the endgame the screen will have hundreds of enemies on screen at once and lots of effects popping off. It will definitely require a beastly gpu especially for anyone who wants to play in 4K.
>Tencent has zero control over GGG
KEK
Actually stupid or just baiting because you have nothing better to do with your life? Yes, they have zero control over GGG.
The deal was very much public and everyone knows the details of it. They paid 1 billion for the original small crew of GGG, in exchange for getting % of future profits but under the condition that GGG remains fully in charge.
PoE wouldn't be 1% as good as it is if Tencent was making any decisions for it. The game has remained 100% GGG in soul and fair monetization for all these 6 years since the deal. Stop being a fricking moron.
Well you obviously most don't know what you are talking about. The staggering number of effects on screen is very performance costly. And again, the recommended system specs are available, stop pretending like they don't prove you wrong.
>they have zero control over GGG
LOL
Next you'll say the Chinese government doesn't spy on people via their apps.
What do you not understand about this? There is not a single Tencent staff member working at the GGG offices. How does your moronic ass think they can control GGG, when they have zero legal rights to give them orders, and don't even get to be involved at their studio.
Obviously you have never played PoE so you should stop embarrassing yourself. There are constantly thousands of effects on screen at all times in endgame gameplay. PoE already requires top tier GPUs and PoE2 has much better graphics.
kek, this guy thinks screen shake effect and ground pound vfx requires a 40xx series...
nothing impressive whatsoever, unless this game has 1 million enemies on screen at once there's no reason for this game to require 40xx series, even 20xx is a stretch lmao
>the graphics are top of the lane
Go back to plebbit you mongolic frick
this shit should be able to run on 2080ti at best lmao...
That should be able to run on a 1080
PoE needs a top end CPU morono, top end SSD and RAM are also high prio. It's actually pretty low on requirements on GPU.
Everything is pre rendered as a 2D Plane.
I hear crypto currencies are crawling back from the absolute shit bottom so they will all be used in some chinaman farm.
2 dorra is the most i will pay to upgrade me 6800xt
why would someone buy a 4080super for $1k when you could buy a 7900XTX right now for less? Plus you know it's going to come down even more after this announcement.
>why would someone buy a 4080super for $1k when you could buy a 7900XTX right now for less?
If you're going to be doing more than just rasterized gaming then it's considerable. The 7900 XTX still gets crushed by the 4080 in Blender.
where's the 3090 in this ranking? i don't know how much difference there is in this and the ti one
subtract 1% from 3090 ti
Im with you on this one.
I'm still sitting comfy with my RTX 3090 but they seem to only show the 3090Ti rather than the 3090 in charts.
I think it's something like 3-5% better since it just adds an additional SM
Because it's BS and you KNOW it's like a 1% to 3% difference at best. 3000 series will be great to hold onto until the REAL 4000 series hits; the 5000 series!
>bragging about your blender perf on the video games board
Who tf cares about blender performance after a certain point
homie get off your computer and sleep nobody sits there waiting on the render
Digital sculptors
how old is this benchmark? blender are replacing opengl with vulkan
>Blender swapping to Vulkan
Nice
>Have to deal with the 3.0+ UI
Sad
I'm in a very specific country where GPU prices and market is fricked so I've been waiting for the 4080S to maybe force the price of the 7900XTX down(currently the cheapest one is $110 ameribucks), either way the cheaper option in about 1-2 months from now earns my purchase.
the 4080 is still better in any games where it matters alone due to DLSS. FSR is just complete garbage.
I buy a 4080/7900xtx precisely because I don't want to use upscaling garbage
Dude you have less Vram and a slower bus. You fricking scammed you dumbass.
DLSS looks like fricking dogshit, dude.
nope sorry doesn't count
it depends greatly on the game devs, some games have shit implementation despite being partnered (cybershit) and others look perfect despite being partnered with AMD and having more complex views(Avatar™)
>why would someone buy a 4080super for $1k when you could buy a 7900X-ACK
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/vxD1da-sb6phCFQEHE2Pww/
hmmm?
>more ACK posts than not
lil' sharty... whatchu doin lil' sharty
Yeah, tell me how good latest Nvidia drivers are. People have been b***hing for months about them
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/18go5ej/game_ready_studio_driver_54633_faqdiscussion/
Yo dawg I heard you like DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, so I put some DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in your DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL so you can DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL while you DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.
I get nvlddmkm.sys failed blue screen error thanks to shitty nvidia drivers
Forgot pic rel of it happening to me a few days ago
>why would someone buy a 4080super for $1k when you could buy a 7900XTX right now for less?
the real question is why would someone buy a 4080 for $1,000 when they could put up another $800 and get a 4090 so they don't have to worry about GPUs until 2030. even $2,000 isn't that much when you're using the card for 6-8 years.
SFF. no sff PSUs that are high rated can run both a 4090 and my 7900X.
that's literally how i ended up with a 4090. but for me there was another step
>4090? are you crazy?
>those must cost 2500 or more!
>hmm it's only 1900
>wait a couple weeks
>price drops to 1500
>i have to buy it now
He has a point.
Why upgrade mid-tier every other generation? You end up with extra unused cards. What are you going to do with that?
Sell it? Pain in the ass, you have to worry about scammers. Those that will receive your 4070 and say they only got a 1050. All market platforms side with the buyer, you'll be fricked.
Not to mention you'll always have mid-tier performance.
Compare that with getting xx90. You won't need to upgrade for decades. You'll get top-tier performance for at least half a decade, then mid-tier for the other half.
>All market platforms side with the buyer, you'll be fricked.
You sell it slightly under market value at Craigslist. What are you talking about?
and then you still end up with more money because no fees
Because amd is only somewhat optimized for games. It's encoding it's pretty terrible, the rtx cards actually use 100% of the functionality of a GPU including games, like AI,VR, number crunching you think of it.
Game tech wether you like it or not is evolving to utilize DLSS/FSR which RTX cards can do both and DLSS is more optimized.
AMD is still a solid option if all you care about are games
>Game tech wether you like it or not is evolving to utilize DLSS/FSR
lol
lmao
enjoy your fake troony frames
Console games are using FSR therefore games in the future will all be using FSR, monobrow.
Even Alan wake 2 requires DLSS.
>playing alan woke
LMFAO, I knew you were trans
touched a neve ay? dilate more while I play with real frames and with meme features turned off because I'm not a slave to buzzwords
>posts and avatar of a female deer from a furry fighting game
trannies and furries are the same fricking thing: mental illness
it's always funny seeing a right-wing furry, they legitimately think that the other right-wing people will treat them as allies instead of barely tolerated freaks, who they will GLADLY come for next
being right wing is all about tradition, not being a disgusting sex-pest who fricks animals
I like how the kneejerk reaction is always
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SYCOPHANT SUPPORT NETWORK THO WE OWN YOU YOU CAN'T JUST BE AN INDIVIDUAL WHAT IF SOMEONE DOESN'T PRETEND TO LIKE YOU
No. Yes. "1440p cards" are the bare minimum for 1080p and you have Nvidia to thank for for that being a thing now.
Black person, other anons already outed you as just playing pixelshit and 10 year old games and thinking you can claim "playing at 1440p"
Its not about enjoying or not you stupid frick
Its not a choice
>It's encoding it's pretty terrible
do people just regurgitate what youtubers say? twitch/youtube literally cant tell the difference due to compression.
Any eye can tell the difference when DLSS/FSR us being used. That's why they keep trying to improve it because of the obvious compression
moron.
Concession accepted
Why the FRICK do people who lose arguments always say "Concession accepted." Shut the frick up jit.
Why bring up
DLSS/FSR in a post about video decoding.
Wheres your MADVR settings mofo
Because the 4080S has more and better features and hardware support for more tech.
>b-but rtx/broadcast/nvenc/cuda are le bloat and bad
By all means, stick to AMD and pretend you got the better deal just because you're dumb.
I would buy amd after my Nvidia dies.
>he thinks goyvidia prices are gonna come down ever
lmaoing at your life
>tfw had to fork over 1100+ yurobucks for a 7900XTX
Wish we weren't so fricked.
Release when?
>not waiting for 5090
>5090 comes out
>None of the stores do anything about scalpers, bots, etc
>Can only buy it for double the retail price
Great
anything over a 1650 is unnecessary unless you're a miner
minor detected
Hot!
I just want to get a gaming PC that can match PS5 performance for less than $1000 CAD. Literally impossible.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6sZGP
Try again
This. That's about an off the shelf walmart build my friend bought in 2020 for $999.
>Literally just bought a 4070 on black Friday
Jesus frick should I just sell it now?
Don't panic, wait for the benchmarks.
Why? Its enough for you isnt it? Just enjoy your new card.
don't fall into that trap, there's ALWAYS new tech coming out, there's no point waiting cause you'll be waiting forever. besides the benefits of having 4000 cards are there regardless of model (dlss3, framegen shit)
>cause you'll be waiting forever
literally me with my gtx 970
I'm long overdue for an upgrade but it never feels like the right time, at this point I should probably just build an entirely new PC but it feels insurmountable
I jumped from the 970 to a 6900xt which has been fantastic. I over doubled my performance which I feel is worth the upgrade. But this needs to last me at least five more years
No. Just wait until 6070ti
People like you piss me off more than the trolls. Imagine miniscule differences being that big of a fricking deal. It's still a fricking 4070. Youre okay.
dont let the electric israelite consume you
Just enjoy your card, anon.
10% performance difference isnt going to make or break anything
No reason to, in 5 years you'll be obsolete regardless.
YES ANON WAIT FOR THE 5XXX SERIES
NO WAIT ACTUALLY THE 6XXX SERIES ARE RIGHT BEHIND THE CORNER AFTER THOSE
NO WAIT ACTUALLY-
Black person
I got a 4080 about 11 months ago for $1,550 total ($150 for a two year no questions asked return if it breaks and $95 for taxes).
homie all you play is a shitty wallet drainer
made for phones, it works well on 1060 with i7 2500k
sell and buy more rolls
It's too late.
You bought.
Your money is gone, there's no recouping it.
homie, there is not a game out there that will be worth the difference
I wouldn't sweat it, you are their target.
The 4070 for more bum backwards of an upgrade that it might be at the end of the day it is still an upgrade from 3070. It's just that it is clear Nvidia has been cutting corners. AMD is mediocre but you get what you paid for really.
What was your previous GPU? If it's something old like a 1070 then why not
I bought a 4070 last week too and I couldn’t be happier. You would barely even notice the difference anon just enjoy what you have. The 4070 is a great card.
yes
No. The 4070 has a regular 8 pin while the 4070 super will have the meme firestarter 12
if you bought it from bestbuy you can still return it. our return policy for the holidays reaches till jan 13th.
We told you, you didn't listen.
You can take solace that the 4070S probably won't be selling anywhere near MSRP on release though.
Did you get it at a discount?
If so, then you're fine.
the only winners are 4090 buyers who paid msrp at launch
the ones that beta tested the 12vhpwr connector and had it catch fire?
t. limp-wristed homosexual that can't insert a power cable without a smoothie break
I paid 1200 for an open box 4090 with zero apparent issues.
Feel pretty good about that one.
no, it was overpriced at msrp too.
i got a 3090 4 years ago and there hasnt been anything it couldnt run at max settings. Is there any reason to get a 4090?
4K and more fps, monitors that exceed 144hz are pretty common now
also DLSS 3.0 is exclusive to 40 cards but not sure how much of a difference it makes
i see
>4070 Super
>4070 TI
Jewvidia doing all they can to not call it what it is. A 4060. They want you paying premium no matter what.
Waiting for 5000
Ill just buy 4080 from morons panic selling theirs
>4080 Super
>16GB VRAM
absolute dogshit
AMDgays fixate on nvidia VRAM like Americans fixate on black wiener
No, it's AI gays who want to generate waifus with stable diffusion.
>Nvidia
Not video games. Go to the AI board.
>ray tracing and AI and fake resolution and fake fps
>41 fps in a game before dlss, over 100 with dlss
i hate this industry
my old gpu can do a very good job with games now, just look at this, all thanks to AI and upscaling tech
but I still think that it shouldn't be a priority
Yeah I hate tech advancement too. DLSS is so wack. Higher frame rates, anti-aliasing, and a performance boost? Who wants that?
>more cores
>same shit ram and bus
I may trade in some of my NVDA profits to buy a 4070TiS
>double more power 3 years later
haha
>double the frames if you enable turbo-blur-everything-dithering-allover-the-fricking-place-dlss 4.1 in performance mode
no one fricking cares
the "2x 3080ti" claim on their marketing slide is bullshit and should be illegal. 4080 super is not even 2x fps of a 3080 in timespy.
>the "2x 3080ti" claim on their marketing slide is bullshit
they made clear it's with DLSS 3. Without DLSS it's 40% faster.
>disputing performance in real world use cases (games) with muh synthetic load benchmarks
These are normal GPU prices. Just as normal as everything else that's artificially inflated in price. Enjoy your xx60-tier GPU for $1200 and your cheap ass mcdonalds combo that now costs $15.
if it really is 2x 3080ti then it should be 2x the timespy score or 2x the timespy fps. its not in both cases.
4090 is 2x the 6900xt and it shows.
>muh synthetic workload benchmarks tho
Performance in real workloads is what matters. You'd know this if you actually played games and did cuda shit. Benchmarks are just for numbergays.
This kills the snoys
badly designed game
>This kills the snoys
of course it does it costs three ps5's you fricking moron
Does this mean prices will be slightly more reasonable for upgrading my 1070
Don't care, I'll enjoy my 3060ti at 1440p for the next two years before upgrading. What games are people playing where they NEED a new card every fricking year? What is the mindset of your average consoomer who cums in their pants every time NVIDIA releases a new card? Look, people are free to do whatever they want to do with their (or their parents') money but I don't understand the mindset of the person who owns a 3090 and then "needs" to buy a 4090 the very next generation. Why? So they can get 170 fps at ultra settings in 4K on AAA goyslop game No. 37 instead of 145 fps? Or do they legitimately need the extra power for content creation?
>Or do they legitimately need the extra power for content creation?
In some cases, yea. The top-tier consumer cards like 3090/4090 are de facto professional-grade cards that appeal to people who do graphic design, image processing, etc. Not sure what the actual percentage of people who purchase such cards are actually using them for that purpose is, though.
What the frick games do you play at 1440 with a 3060? My card is better and most games run like absolute shit
If I have absolutely no interest in smearing my games with DLSS and would take higher FPS over raytracing is it just better to go AMD?
don't care, my gtx 750 ti still can run everything
played bg3 and rogue trader last/this year on it
12fps? 720p? lowest?
I played rogue trader with a 970gtx at 60 1080p with everything at max except... something over shadows something but didn't notice a difference.
If you are not playing the last cawadoody or some woke shit 30fps on ps5 you have no problem at all. I keep playing stuff which can be or can't be from the last year and i am encountering no trouble at all. I played also wrath of the righteous, the last yakuza, warhammer chaos gate, re8 just to name the last one almost everything at max no problem at all.
4080s is a good deal. i got rhe 4090 for 1650 and now its 2000 but if i didnt get that card i would settle for the 4080 for 1k
I'm gonna buy the 4070 super, bros.
I'm sick and tired of my RX 480.
i want to make AI porn. 4080s would be able do make sdxl pictures without problem surely. but what about animations and such? training loras should be fine as well?
Should I bother upgrading to these from a 2070 super for 1440p?
Not worth it. 2070 Super at 1440p is still more than viable and will remain so for a few more years.
Which fricking games are you able to play at 1440 with a 2070 lmao
tetris
Not that anon but I play PUBG with that setup.
there are only 1-2 games that are AAA console ports requiring a $600 GPU to play comfortably without using the lowest settings.
Every other game runs on a 1650 at 60fps because it turns out 5% of the total users on steam use the 1650, then after it's the 3060 (which is about as strong as a 2070).
also 1440p is always using DLSS/FSR which means it runs at 1080p.
Unless you want to max out games like Alan Wake 2 or Avatar, you aren't going to need much to get a visually nice game with good frames at 1440p with a 2070 Super. I got a 3080 and still feels like its not worth going up yet despite wanting a 4k OLED monitor since the new wave is releasing soon.
Well this is my build I have now after upgrading my 10 year old 660ti PC. I got the 3070 during the homosexual miner scalping at msrp, so I was happy.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XG84zf
We're never going to get normal GPU prices again, are we?
Glad I'm done with gaming. Frick ~~*them*~~
I've got a 3080 Founder's. Is there any point?
I'll get a 4070 Super to replace my 1060 6GB, should be more than sufficient for 1080p/60fps for the next few years.
>$600 for 12GB
Go ahead. That's objectively better than $700 for 10GB that would be considered a steal back in the 'rona times.
>4070 super for 599$
honestly not bad
it should drive down the normal 4070 prices quite a bit, we'll see how long it takes for retailers to realize that
>tfw snagged a 4090 for MSRP in july
>Non-founder's
why do all 4090s idle at like 30-40w I see on Ganker? my 6900xt is 7w.
because it's not completely idle. maybe chrome is running, maybe discord too or other background processes that use the GPU
doing that on my pc max is like 15w. is 4090 really that inefficient at idle?
i just did a clean reboot and the 4090 is still at 30-35w. it just idles that high.
mine is idling at 11-12W if i dont touch anything
I bought a 3070 at launch and switched to a 4080 last year. If I had the 3080 I would ride it out till the next gen.
why bother upgrading? unless you went from 1440p to 4k i dont get why you didnt wait for 50 series
Nah I've been in 1440p/165Hz the whole time, I just kind of panicked when there was the short string of releases that were challenging the 8GB cards. Plus I knew I wasn't going to do anything with my old 3070 so figured I'd offload it before the secondhand prices drop any more.
Yeah I might regret not getting the 4090 instead. At this point even skipping one generation would be an improvement for me though
that's exactly why i went with a 4090 despite being at 1440p. right now it's extreme overkill but over the next 2 years that is going to subside and as soon as it doesn't deliver solid 100fps anymore i turn on DLSS and get another 2 years until i even consider upgrading.
>that pump mounting
also this is the power of RTX 4090
>pump mounting
there simply was no other way. tried mounting the fans to the front but the tubes are just too rigid and i didn't want to risk heating them up and bending them.
So... uh... isnt the 4070 super just a very expensive piece of shit? Am I missing something
People have been abused with 3000 and 4000 overpriced prices since the mining era.
When something is only slightly less overpriced then these "people" rejoice.
Basically, high prices have now become normalized.
it's only 5% slower than a 4070ti for 200$ less and it's the biggest boost in cores compared to the original
it might be the only 40xx card that's not total garbage value
This. Unless 4060 Ti is getting a super upgrade, the 4070S is the only GPU that will be within the "reasonable" range of prices and not have a worse value than its predecessor.
Still bad, but not irredeemable.
I've been so happy with the 4090 I'm buying the 5090 the moment it comes out in 2025
>4090
>1440p
Coasting comfy on my 3090, wake me up when the 5090 comes out
>$599 RTX 4070S
So that's going to be 800 euros in the only region that matters? No thanks.
Lame. If you have a 3000 series your better off waiting for the 5000 series. Even if the 5000 series is a scam again the 4000's will game better price by then.
If you hate nvidia, you hate innovation simple as.
it doesnt look that impressive until you look at the shadows under the arms and fingers. And I think they fixed the eyes being too dark.
Right looks like a modded oblivion character, which you could run on a 15 year old GPU. Why does it now require a GPU the price of a car?
This is clearly a shitpost but Cyberpunk really is an ass looking game and I wish people would stop using it as the gold standard benchmark just because you need specs to run it half-decently.
>mfw bought 4070 Ti
>tfw replaced my 3090 ti with 4070 ti
>sold the former for the same price as the latter
>thought I made a good deal because Blender benchmarks says the latter is both better and more power efficient
>go to render
>same scene takes twice as long
>vram.jpg
frick me
>buying a new card at 2 tiers below the old one
moron
You bought a 3090Ti, a "flagship" $2000 card that released not even 6 months before the 4090 mogged it to hell for cheaper lmao moron
you literally can't win by buying Nvidia.
>tfw replaced my 3090 ti with 4070 ti
i would think about necking myself every day.
You can't be serious, what a moron. lmoa
Should've waited for 5000 series at least and for better benchmark tests, though you should've researched 4000 series better in the first place. Though at this point, I also feel like 5000 series cards may not be as good as 3000 series 1000 series even, israelitevidia clearly understood that it can get away with selling overpriced low effort garbage thanks to mainers and morons who bought 3000 series cards for insane prices.
>traded a top tier high end GPU for a scam tier mid-tier GPU without VRAM
Holy morono
It has half the memory bandwidth too. Must be bait.
DO NOT REDEEM SIR
6650xt will be fine for me
thanks for letting me know, OP. Now please excuse me, I am heading back to finish Gothic 2.
4070 Ti, 4070 Super, or 4070TI Super? When do we get benchmarks?
70ti looks like it'll become redundant. 70ti suuper has 4GB more VRAM and 70 Super will be better value.
Is it still DisplayPort 1.4? Because if so, into the trash it goes. Especially since a shit ton of 4K 240Hz monitors just got announced.
>tfw 3080 12g
Should i upgrade to a super or just wait for the 50xx series?
Serious question
A 3080 will get through this generation just fine, and you even have the 12gb one so vram shouldn't be a big issue
Wait
This. I've got a 3080Ti from 2 years ago and I'm sailing along no issue and ignore all this drama now
Wait. These cards are gimped by DisplayPort 1.4
> All the new nvidia cards get mogged by an XTX.
What the frick is Jensen doing? Nvidia has fricking lost it.
delusional. 4080ti is going to crush 7900xtx for the price point.
this is the 4080ti
super
3 years from now we’ll still be at same raster performance, but AAA sloppa games will all be so heavy you literally can’t run them on 2080 ti anymore, because you need DLSS 5.0 and this new 4th gen AI fake pixel generation capability to reach 120 fps. On native res it’ll run 25fps max.
games will be running in a crisp 540p native upscaled to 4k with 1000w GPUs.
Us 4060TI a scam if coming from a 1070? Dunno if I'll have enough saved before DD2 for a 4070 ot 4070S
literally anything you buy now will be an upgrade, regardless of AMD or Nvidia
I'm coming from a 1070 too, and I will admit I was tempted by the 4060ti a bit, but the memory bus and 8GB VRAM is going to REALLY start hurting soon (like early next year) so I decided against it, even the 16GB one isn't better because having 16GB with a 128-bit bus is pathetic, you can turn all your textures on high and watch as the game starts CHUGGING because you have enough VRAM to store the textures on initial load, but as soon as you need to start streaming new textures it's going to shit itself (like on level transition or geometry streaming in open-world games)
I'm going for a 4070S at the end of the month because I'm really fricking tired of waiting at this point, but if you are tight on funds, I would say to go for the 7700XT or 7800XT, both are better value all things considered and they are the cards I was mulling over going for last month, but I REALLY want to have somewhat capable ray-tracing because it's the only graphical innovation in years and I wanna see it, and also because I have been using upscaling to play modern games on my 1070, I have seen just how blurry FSR can be, but from everything I've seen DLSS really is just THAT much clearer, so I'm willing to pay extra to get both of those features at the cost of less VRAM, but for anyone struggling financially, go for AMD, they honestly are better value for money at this point, especially in rasterization
People are already thinking of graphics cards like phones, ready and willing at the trough to eat up the next release bi-anually
PC gaming is becoming a meme
at least new gpus get more frames, I can't tell new phones apart at all
>got an msi 3080 10GB for ~$720 in mid 2022
guys did i frick up with 10Gb... i dont even know why i didnt get 12GB
>10Gb
no, you didn't frick. you just have to upgrade in a couple of years is all.
>RX5700, not even XT, is still chugging along great at 1440p 165hz
>only game that didn't play 100% smoothly was Elden Ring and that smoothed out from upgrading CPU to an R7 5800x3D from an older Ryzen chip
ah okay you motherfrickers just play pixel games
I understand now the "my 2060 runs everything at 1440p!" comments
>essential for the latest games
cool
I'll keep playing doom wads instead
How many more of these are they going to shit out? The 30 series isn't even that old. The 1080 ti still plays everything.
>1080 ti
DLSS ON
>The 1080 ti still plays everything
no, it doesn't.
is an RTX2070 Super still okay? I don't know computer parts. I don't really play high-end games, I just want games like path of exile and final fantasy 14 to run well.
you're fine if you're using 1080p
that's 1920x1080, right? I'm cool with that, thank you anon
my monitor wants me to do 3840xwhatever though, will running games at 1920x1080 cause problems?
>waitgays think they're getting these GPUs for MSRP
LMAO
Have they emphasized 1080p gaming again? I won't buy unless they do that. Major sticking point for me.
You need a 70 class GPU now for acceptable 1080p gaming. Tough times.
I see, I had thought about continuing a 4060TI but will do the needful to continue with my gaming, sir.
4060ti is a massive turd that actually regresses from 3060ti in a lot of scenarios. 4060 is meh too
Why couldn't nGreedia launch with those cards a year ago. I would've bought 4070Ti S.
If you hate NVidia, you hate Israel and israelites, simple as.
completely unrelated
Hehe yeah totally. On a completely unrelated note, "NVidia" is a modern evolution of the company's original name, "InJudea", which was a reference to where the company is located and where the decisions are made. The company name was updated over time for easier marketing.
youre thinking of intel you colossal moron
Do upgrade or wait for 5000 series? I only play fighting games mostly
what's your current card and resolution
Wait for 5k. Never buy an even-numbered nvidia series. You already made that mistake once.
>I only play fighting games mostly
I'd say wait till you steal a new GPU
i dont understand why people ask these questions. do you have any trouble playing the games you want to play? how do you not know?
>Upgrade
>Only play fighting vidya
You should stick to getting a Basedny console
>t. anon who plays lots of FG vidya that ditched PS4 for PC and 99% of the scene are still consolegays
>me
>previous card: none, used an x220
>before that: geforce 9800+ 1GB
>now: 4080
Pretty neat I guess. I just use it for blender and to taff around in 4k though.
>12GB VRAM
>550$
The goim will buy it!
I got a i7 9700k and I'm wondering if I can upgrade to something in the 3000 series as the card I currently have is a 2070 super.
I bet you are still stuck with 1080p so 4070 would be more than enough with your CPU. And you will be CPU limited in many games. Majority of 3xxx cards are cucked by 8GB, so unless you can buy cheap used 3080 12GB I would not bother. And that card is power hungry if you don't tweak it.
ine is a pre built and (I haven't check in a lil bit) I think I have a 650 watt PSU. Alright I have 3 hours of sleep so lemme get this straight. I can get a 4070 but it would be preferable if I get a 3080 12gb but used and if it even shows up for non chucked prices?
3080 12GB and 4070 have nearly identical performance BUT no frame generation, much higher power draw.
4070 should drop in price to around $500 so you would need to find ~$350 3080 to make it worth the risk.
650W is on the edge if you don't UV 3080.
So if I get the 4070 I won't need to UV it?
4070 is only pulling around 180W under load. Avoid MSI Ventus 4070 those are the worst 4070.
Avoid MSI in general
Everywhere you go you can find people complaining about MSI
No its a fricking scam
Alright I'll do that, thanks for all the info man you've been way more helpful than most people online rn.
I'll never understand people who don't simply:
>buy a monster PC with every Playstation release to be able to max out, or nearly max out, every single game for a minimum of 5 years
It's what, 3 grand? 3 grand every 5 years for a hobby is nothing. I just got a 4090 + 7800x3d and i'll be enjoying every game, headache free for another new console gen until the PS6 releases.
My last PC was a 980ti + i7 4790K which lasted me 6 years. This is the ONLY way to game on PC
This. Haven't changed mine for 4 years now and maybe 5xxx will be worth getting since it will be released pretty much when I hit the 5th year.
If you had waited 6 months instead of buying 980ti trash you could've gotten 1070 for 1/3 of the price?
Then I would have been out of a GPU for 6 months moron
I wouldn't even pay $600 for a 4090TiSXXLBBQBlack personblaster++
>$999
>$799
>$599
i fricking despise the american cuck morons display prices without tax
I'm pretty sure they do because every single state has different sales taxes, still makes the price very disingenous, it's forbidden to show the price of products without the sales tax in my country by comparison
I'm still running on a 1080 but I was planning to get a new PC next month anyway. Is there supposed to be a big difference between the 4080 Super and the 4070 Ti Super?
when is the 5x series due?
I think that's when I'm gonna blow my load on an entire new 5090 tier setup.
2025
I cant believe that DLSS is a selling point. This is super dishonest performance statistics.
It's marketing what did you expect?
>4070Ti is 3x the performance of 3090Ti
'member that?
shit should honestly be illegal. they put on the slide "2x 3080ti" but the only way clarify what they actually mean is by audio "with dlss+rt+framegen+in nvidia sponsored title+etc"
Should I start to regret buying the 7800XT Hellhound for £570?
does remember. kek
Frick, meant to quote
>just bought an rx 6800 xt for $500
feel bad for my friend that spend $800 on his rtx 3060
What NVDIA will let me play ps5 games on PC comfortably
>mfw my 1080 ti won't be replaced by a few more years still since new gpus suck dick
i like my gtx1090 🙂
What's this generation's go to nvidia gpu?
like how the 1060 was the best everyone got due to quality/price ratio
Doesn't exist. The only correct option is "don't get anything they all suck".
JUST KEEP WAITING
DON'T BUY THE REASONABLY PRICED CARD YOU HAVE TO BUY THE ONE ABOVE IT SO YOU CAN PLAY AT A RESOLUTION NO ONE PLAYS AT
rx 7600xt
>amd
>nvidia
>budget
pick one moron and only one
read the post you're replying to, moron
no u
The 4090 is the best quality/price ratio but the price is so high it's not comparable. The budget quality/price choice (prior to the Supers) would be 4070 Ti but it's not even close to the deal the 1060 was. Everything else is badly priced compared to those two - again, before the Supers.
I expect the 4070 Ti Super to be the best choice among the new cards but we need to see real benchmarks first.
>4060 is 300$
>i cannot find a laptop with it for 1000$ that isnt garbage
i hate europe
No thanks
Gona wait for the super duper version
comfy waiting for 6000 series with my 3060, playing EDF5 at 4k
see you in 4 years, boys
dont care
bought a 7800 XT
is was worth
dont care about raytracing
dont care about dlss or fsr
playing at 1080p so im set for like 5 years
you morons are no different from consolegays
>if you don't own a 2000$ card you are a moron
>if you do own one you are a moron
I'm convinced the only people here that are morons are people who play modern games
if you need anything that costs more than 400$ unless you have a job you may as well have a nice day because no game genuinely needs a gpu that strong
>hurr durr muh old games muh indieshit muh sour grapes
The render error on that rock is not a DLSS issue.
>sour grapes
>plays nothing but movie shit
just go to the movies instead of buying a 9000$ graphics card to play a shitty movie made by Indians
>everything I can't run on a $300 goodwill special is a movie
>has no argument after almost 20 minutes
>just goes no u
>DEBATE ME
>doesn't know what no u means
Sour. Grapes.
>replies almost 20 minutes later
>N-N-NO U
very sad consoletard thinks he can buy good games if he burns his money away at incompetent morons who spend 300 million dollars to make open world capeshit
>implying you're not samegayging
I refuse to believe two "anons" organically don't know what "no u" means or how it's used. You're angry because you're poor and cope by claiming only indieshit and old games are any good. Get a job.
I refuse to believe you are this much of a Black person
>JUST BUY A 2000$ GPU TO PLAY GAMES AND MOVIES WORSE THAN DOOM 3
>MOVIES WORSE THAN DOOM 3
With doom 3 being so great it is not surprising a huge number of games are considered worse than it.
>Doom 3
>Great
>resorting to childish tantrums because people other than you have jobs and can afford things
>doesn't even know where the dollar sign goes
the dollar sign goes into the CEO's ass
consoles have a limit of 11-12 gigs of shared ram that goes to textures and other shit
unless you need 4K
you only need 12gb
How long it took you to realize that?
>2x 3080ti
biggest lie of the century and gamers nexus already calling them out on it
go back to your containment thread, trannoid
>nvidia is putting out cards at a price approaching a good deal
holy shit
when do we get benchmarks?
>$1000 for a 4080
>$800 for a 4070 Ti
>$600 for a 4070
>approaching a good deal
L
M
A
O
Here are some benchmarks
>4070S = 4070 +15%
>4070TiS = 4070Ti +10%
>4080S = 4080 +5%
boiled frog
Not worth a single nickel. Not even their tech demo games like cyberpunk are worth this much money.
>everyone says that MLID is making stuff up and can't be trusted
>every leak I've seen from him has been 100% accurate
What's the deal here?
>i5-7600 amd 1070
Oh fugg, what are the go-to upgrades now? People say AMD CPUs are better than Intel these days but I dont know anything about AMD.
I had an i7-6700k until about 6 months ago when my MB died and I was forced to upgrade, so I read WAY too much about current CPUs in order to catch up
Intel dropped the ball due to pride whilst AMD came out of the ashes like a fricking phoenix with ryzen, I was convinced they were dead after bulldozer (I always bought AMD CPUs until my FX-6100 shit the bed, then I got the i7 and swore I was done with AMD after I saw how much better it was)
Ryzen chips come in 2 flavours: normal and X3D, normal are really good, but the X3D chips are just ridiculously good for games. AMD somehow figured out that they can just dump loads of L3 cache into the CPU die to MASSIVELY benefit games.
Intel just lost their way by about the 10th generation, and as of this exact moment I would say they REALLY need to get their shit together, because their CPUs: cost more, don't perform better in games, have higher power requirements, consistently get so hot that they thermal throttle themselves.
It's not even a contest at this point, if you mainly play games and are sticking with Intel, then it's out of brand loyalty and nothing else, an i9 is almost double the price of a 7800X3D, but performs the same in games, and worse in every other metric except productivity and workspace programs, where it has a SLIGHT advantage
as far as GPU's go that's a whole other story: Nvidia got greedy as frick, AMD managed to improve a lot but still aren't as good as Nvidia in a lot of ways, but at least they are priced better and have more VRAM. Intel tried stepping into the race but tripped at the starting line because they forgot they needed to make working drivers, and even now they are playing catch up in pre-DX9 games, as in anything on directx 8 and under runs like SHIT on intel's cards (if they run at all), so if you like old games they just aren't an option, which is a shame because their GPU pricing has been great, and more competition is needed in the GPU space ot make pricing competitive
I really thought my dream build would have been an AMD and a 3080 ti custom laptop
Both conventional and portable as opposed to a umpc/smol desktops with those shit color gpus and a resolution that make a fricking plug and play look good, but I think I'd want a purebred amd laptop now. Shit looks cash and Taiwan (Ancient China) won't be making quality much longer
>gays that bought a 4070 ti 12gb for 800-900 USD
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meh I'll stick with my 3060 ti
I'm glad I sold my 3060Ti when it was still worth something.
I live under a rock whats the new 3060ti now that they apparently stopped making it
4070Ti is the most similar performing card this gen (3060ti was roughly 60% performance of the 3090, 4070Ti is roughly 60% a 4090). Its $800, not $400 so not really the same.
4070S will be nearly the same performance as 4070Ti, so $600 still too much but it won't get any better.
What kind of israelitevidia options are left if i still want to look for that kind price/specs
The 4060ti costs the same amount as the 3060ti and also has about the same performance if you want to donate $400 dollars to Nvidia for an RTX 40 series sticker.
Nothing has really challenged my 2080 yet so I'm just going to wait for 50 series and I'll probably upgrade then regardless of if I need it to run games just because my GPU will be over 6 years old by then.
I guess the graphics arms race must be slowing down because of consoles or something.
So when's 5080 coming out?
Next year.
Most recent noise points towards Q4 2024
5090, maybe. 5080, nope.
Source?
it came to me in a dream
>He didn't wait 12 years for the RTX homosexual Shit edition
Literally over for you homies
>he didn't wait 24 years for the RTX Real time path tracing 99000XS
Might just wait until next year and save for a 5090. My 2070 is handling things fine.
which one of these is the 1070 equivalent?
Sorry, until AMD do something on par with dlss3 I won't be buying their shit.
my potato uses a rx 580 still what (budget) graphics card should I get to replace it?
Depends on the CPU you have, but most CPUs post 4th gen intel will do fine having a RX 6600 RTX 3060 GPU, more than that is probably you will get CPU bottlenecked unless you can bump over 1080p resolution
Im just gonna wait for the 5k see if those are actually worth the money
My 2080 Super still runs everything and the games it cant run are just optimized like fricking shit and dont work on anything
Is a 4060 even good
I have a 3080 non-ti and love making ai waifus. Should I upgrayedd?
FUUUUCK I WAS ABOUT TO BUILD A 4070TI PC SINCE IVE BEEN WAGESLAVING FOR 5 MONTHS WHAT DO I BUY NOW?
ignore the morons and just buy it
>but muh you need more vram
literal moron cope by people who don't understand computers and just scream never is enough
Literally wait
>2 more weeks
Then buy the 4070Ti Super, or look for the original ones that possibly will be with a price slash
>there are people here buying 40 series cards for 1080p gaming
>implying modern game devs can make 4k playable on any computer
yu vill buy ze expensive gpu just to use fake frames and you vill be hapi
So as a tech illiterate should I buy a 3060 or a 4060? is it asking for trouble buying a card with "only" 8GB?
depends on your use case
I mostly play jrpgs, I decided to start with a gayming laptop with a 3050 and I've been able to play just fine but I'm worried for games like Dragon's Dogma 2, FF7R, new MH and granblue relink, etc. I'm confused since it seem 3060s come with 12gb while basic 4060s have 8gb.
I don't fricking understand any of this shit
I have a i5-7600K CPU 3.80GHz and a 1070ti and I'd like tp upgrade, since its been 5+ years now.
How the frick do I have 8 GB of vram on the 1070ti and then I look at these expensive ass 3070s and they're STILL 8 GB? Am I moronic for being asshurt about this? I want to ball on 16GB of vram not still be stuck on 8GB otherwise whats the point of the "upgrade"?????
someone more knowledgeable pls explain
Should be serviceable if you plan on playing on 1080p.
Nvidia's problem is that you were able to pay <$500 and play games for over half a decade.
Their solution is to give you the absolute bare minimum necessary to play games right now knowing full well that you'll be forced to buy something new within the next two years.
If you want more usable VRAM at an even remotely reasonable price you have to buy AMD.
Which is extremely ironic because the only case where you need huge amounts of VRAM is for AI, which does not work with AMD GPUs.
>which does not work with AMD GPUs.
why would someone do that, go on the internet and tell lies?
No CUDA.
Don't get me wrong, I want to like AMD GPUs. But they just suck for non-gaming.
Less or no support. Just look at Blender. Even the lowest Nvidia card beats the best AMD card (7900 XTX) in Blender.
AMD just doesn't care for non-gaming.
The statement was that a.i doesn't work, which is a flat out lie. Oh look at this, stable diffusion works!
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Install-and-Run-on-AMD-GPUs
>Having to jump through hoops and loops
Next you'll tell me to compile Linux from source and install it.
No thanks, I'd rather pay extra and guarantee that software will work.
>he can't use the cmd line
ngmi
I don't think installing the latest ROCm count as compiling from source, man.
>he thinks compiling from source is hard
oh the winblows blues
you are stuck on perma moron system that if you even try to build something from source it shits itself and screams if you don't give it a microsoft permit
$475 from 2016 is ~$600 now inflation adjusted. And you can get a 12Gb 4070 super for it soon.
We only recently started getting latest gen only multiplat games like AW2. Should be more than half a decade for that to happen for the next console gen.
Cuz israelitevidia loves cutting corners to maximize their profits, besides that way they force your ass to buy a new gpu every new gen.
For a new PC I suggest you get a Ryzen 5700X with a b550 mobo and an RX 6700XT GPU for the best price/performance and you can reuse your ddr4 memory kit you already own. Now the new 4070Ti Super that is coming out by end of month is also a good pick if you still wanna use israelitevidia and want to take the jump to 4K.
Some here would say to get the 5800X3D instead, but since that costs the same as a 7700x on AM5, then I would get the newer one, only problem its that AM5 mobos are expensive, but unlike the 5800X3D which is the deadend, you have an update path when new AM5 Ryzen comes out, 8000 series was already anounced btw. 5800X3D is worth it for those who already were on AM4 years ago, now if you are buying new, I dunno, I would prefer to check the used market if thats the case, and I think you should anyways, theres lots of good deals these days on 6 and 8 core CPUs in general now.
>mfw I have a 3060TI, a Switch, an XSS and a new PS5 Slim
>mfw I'm all set until like 2030
wake me up when I can get a 7080ti holodeck edition
Meh, waiting for the 50xx series.
>no 4060 Super w/ 12gb vram w/ sane BUS width
nVidia, plz. Are you trying to lose me to AMD for once?
They been doing that for for a good decade almost
that's for people who have jobs
Am I correct to assume that those bastards probably sit on technology that would allow them to produce several times more powerful cards than these, but they do rather release it slowly and only at fraction of efficiency they could actually deliver to milk people as much as possible?
No because regardless of any pie on the sky designs they might have if you can't build it then said design means nothing.
They could chuck in 1.5x - 2x more memory in their models and still make a profit.
Of course? Why else do you think they have two tiers of each card these days? It used to be the MX vs. TI at launch, and now it's regular vs. wait for TI vs. wait for Super/Super TI.
I have a 3080 so these are 100% pointless. Nvidia told me I would never need a new GPU ever again. They wouldn't lie.
>RTX 4070 Ti Super
Sanest GPU naming.
Still less powerful than the 4090
4090CHADS cant stop winning. Poorgays cope with their super suffix. SUPER GAY hahahahaha
If I want to do 1440p 240hz or 480hz, is the 4080 Super going to be enough? My poor 1070 is probably dying and struggling in certain games. I can't be a waitchad any longer.
>Have problem
>Should I purchase the solution now or later?
I dunno, do you want it now or later?
Preferably before my GPU dies, which is an unknown quantity. Which is why I want to know if the cards coming out NOW are good enough for my target. I don't think you thought that reply out very well, dumb frick.
If my 3070 can do 144hz at 1440p with everything maxed then all you would need is a 4070.
>no brand new 800x3d.
Time to wait for the 4070ti super to go sale
>you just need to buy a rtx card
>you just don't understand
>but eceleb said raytracing was bad so it's a meme
>also something something israelites something something mom won't buy me anything more than $300 a year
What are you on about? Intel has returned to godhood with 12th and 13th gen (14th is still amazing if you're upgrading from 11th or older, but is a 13th gen refresh and has no real benefit if you're already on 12th or newer) while AMD is still a house fire. Intel hasn't been a lost cause since they (finally) got out of 14nm hell.
>Intel has returned to godhood with 12th and 13th gen... AMD (CPUs) are a house fire
what are you talking about? Alder Lake/10ESF was still playing catch up with Zen 3/7nm when it came to efficiency and Intel have remained stuck there fore 2 years with no answer to Zen 4/5nm+4nm.
>not performance
>power consumption
>kek powerup
>MUH SYNTHETIC BENCHMARKS!!!!
>amdunboxed
>What are you on about? Intel has returned to godhood with 12th and 13th gen
what are YOU talking about? 13th gen is fine, but can't compete with the Ryzen 7000 series, especially the X3D chips, pic related is just about performance in games and isn't even talking about the temperatures or TDP, and the i9 is STILL more expensive
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i9-13900k-s-1700-raptor-lake-24-cores-32-threads-30ghz-58ghz-turbo-36mb-cache-125w-retail
>i9 £569
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-am5-zen4-8-core-16-thread-42ghz-50ghz-turbo-96mb-cache-pcie-50-120w-tdp-cpu
>7800X3D £369
what the frick are you paying £200 extra for? WORSE performance? Worse temps? higher power usage?
Not him but buying an i9/r9 for gaming is stupid and nobody does it.
You're the one who talked about AMD being a housefire you fricking moron.
Because it is. AMD runs stupid hot.
BG3 runs fine on medium / high for my tastes on my dogshit 1060 3GB in act1
But later in the game you have to downgrade settings to keep it playable. I swear they did it on purpose to make me want to upgrade.
funny how the poorgays all unite in these threads to pretend they aren't
it's the hourly we pretend we aren't poor thread
while pretending 4gb of vram will make a difference on a card that was meant for 1440p which is still way higher resolution than any console shit runs at
So basically
4090
4080 Super
4080
4070 Ti Super
4070 Super
4070
4060 Ti Super
4060 Super
4060
How much is the gap between the 4090 and 4080 Super?
Same gap as the 7900xtx and 4090.
about 25 pixels on mine.
just pay up the 2k already
you're not poor right?
>upgrade from a 20 series a 40 series
>can't wait to enjoy my new card
>giant monstrosity that needs a little cuck strut to hold it up
>fricking coil whine 24/7
>start getting BSODs and other weird shit when I have browser hardware acceleration on
I wish I'd gotten a 30 series
What games even require that kind of computational power to max out? hardmode: without naming Cyberpunk or Star Citizen
imagine needing more than a 7700xt
It's all for rtx. No game right now truly needs a good gpu apart from poorly optimized messes
Cities Skyline 2 apparently
>game that could be played on a dell 2005 computer
>it needs a quantum computer to run
These "poorly optimized" "games" are really just like that because of the minutest detail of color and lighting, etc. they're simply going for a tinsee tincy amount of more color (because they know the affect (yes, affect) of color) across 4x as many pixels and that just seems to destroy these benchmarks. AAA game studios want to distinguish themselves so they are going hard in the color palette right now. It's where the money is at. Remember gta online? How fricking yellow it was? Sort of like a...filter or something? Can you please stop saying poorly optimized now?
In Skylines 2's case, it's because the devs don't know wtf LoD models were. It was not only simulating 50,000 NPCs, but also rendering their highly detailed teeth from a mile away.
>Don't know the actual issue
>Grasping for straws so fricking hard
You dumb
I am going to tuck you in to bed
I am going to kill you
Flight Simulator
I unironically hate people who buy 60s and 70s. I really just don't want that shit infatuating the market. Like a 3070, alright alright, as long as it's in good condition and an even better price but a 4070? You just hate progress. You might as well be using a i3-processor which is like a fricking pentium
>Pic rel
It was rendered using a 3070
I unironically hate (you).
Stop buying my cards or I'm gonna start making games with Arc in mind.
newbie
>4080 Super 16gb vram
FRICKS SAKE what is preventing these people from putting more vram? Do I really need to shell out for a 4090 to more efficiently make blender porn with vidya women?
>Do I really need to shell out for a 4090 to more efficiently make blender porn with vidya women?
That's basically it, if these cards don't have enough VRAM for industries where it's not a preference but a basic requirement (IE ML) then there's no possibility they cut into their enterprise products.
But it also means that AI startups won't touch them and gamors might find their cards closer to MSRP.
>Games look worse
>Games need better gear to run properly
why even bother anymore?
I've got a 3080 10gb and a 5800x should the 4080 be something I consider? I play at 3440x1440
>AI eating up RTX 4090 production
>scalpers gonna scalp with the Super series
JUST
I still have a 2070S, but there are no inconveniences.
3090 tbh. would it be dumb to sell it and get 4080 super ?
That shouldn't even be a question consoomers have. See
Why are they making the 4070ti straight up obsolete with the 4070tiS ?
Why not. It's already been a year.
6 months after 3090ti they released 4090 which was 25% cheaper and 50% faster.
Fine by me, waitbros we can't stop winning
They should make the 4070 obsolete by giving the 4070 Super 16 GB and actually offer a product that can compete with the 7800 XT from AMD. But Nvidia is too moronic for that.
That or they wanna get you to pay a premium for the 4070 Ti cause frick poorgays. People who spend less than 800 bucks on a GPU are worth less than dirt for the funny leatherjacket guy.
What a great idea. They should remove the RTX from all GPU's under x080 in each series and return them to GTX , that will save a load of poorgays complaining they can't run ray tracing at 120fps 4k
What do you mean? You think Nvidia actually paid for their AI and raytrace technology? They didn't make shit - All they did was giving away free GPUs and hardware to universities and the people there developed this technology for them.
Which is nothing new or surprising. AMD make their stuff opensource for that reason alone. Not to mention all the times Nvidia just bought companies and their techology like Physx and made it pretty much exclusive to their hardware even though it originally wasn't.
Nvidia is the Activision Blizzard of hardware makers. They never came up with anything good on their own - they just bought up all the promising technology and claimed it as their own.
cope cope cope cope and some more cope for good measure. well done anon
>he actually thinks the ayymd 7800xt is a contender that beats nvidia in anything
Why don't you amd kids stick to competing with Intel Arc where you might have a win or two.
Where's the 4090 Super, the 4090Ti and the 4090Ti Super?
>still using 9700k with 2070s barely any problems just have to turn down a few meme settings
another generation another skip
4080 Super looks like a good deal for 4k. assuming you can actually get it at MSRP
no card
atleast for now
will ever be good for meme 4k resolution
like ive been hearing this fricking shit since the 1000 series you homies never learn
>system requirements increase with time
woah...
>games in 4k are unplayable 2010
>games in 4k are unplayable 2024
woah
ze gojim will buy ze 600 USD GPU with ze 12 GB VRAM and play ze modern games at ze medium/high settings and enjoy ze sloppa
>time and time again we see that GPUs with minimal VRAM suck dick and fall hard after a year or two
>morons keep falling for it anyway
The 970 happend
The 3070/Ti happend.
You morons never learn. At this point i am kinda tired of it to be honest. You frickers deserve to get scammed.
3.5GB was plenty of VRAM for the games that card could run and people didn't notice the problem until they started looking for artificial scenarios where it used more.
The problem was that Nvidia lied about it.
>plenty
It was average at best. And with that i mean 4GB. Which turned out to be a lie.
You'll get scammed either way. Good luck finding 4090 at MSRP since it is such a good ML card with that much RAM.
I bought two 970s for 4k sli for $250 each, and got $50 back for each when the lawsuit was settles.
Plus Batman Arkham Knight and MGSV for free as bonus games
I've gamed on PC my whole life, still clinging to my 1070ti but I think I just have to accept gaming on PC is over for me and I need to make the jump to console. Just not looking forward to playing on a device I have no library at all on, but this just isn't affordable to me.
console performance still sucks balls. a 4070 will outperform any console by wide margin.
a 4070 is significantly more expensive than a console, it better run fricking circles around any console and not have any problems.
pc gaming has always been more expensive than console gaming.
Nah
I know, but the gap feels a lot smaller while the difference in price has gone up. When I got my 1070ti it destroyed the PS4 and the whole build was pretty affordable. If I want to get the most out of a GPU that beats the PS5 I would also need to shell out a lot just to have the display devices to benefit, a cheaper alternative that's just "roughly the PS5, but it's a GPU" doesn't exist anymore.
On top of that PC games are launching unoptimized as frick pretty consistently, which is kind of depressing too. The PS5 being (relatively) powerful has made devs not give a frick about optimizing anymore.
And now we're in an era of constant suttering from shader caching. PC gaming is dead
For these prices you might see better results just buying an OLED monitor to see how much nicer shit looks.
Does anyone make a GPU with an integrated waterblock and radiator, like a GPU AIO? I don't understand why those aren't more popular since GPUs are the component that gets hot, not CPUs.
Uh yes? Are you fricking new to this, or something?
Don't be mean to anon
pc gaming is only for the hyper rich now, which means the pc masterrace got their wish. this is a dead hobby for the average consumer.
Nah
Yeah
pretty much. i don't get how any lower middle class person could look at these prices and think yeah thats something im investing in
nice, most of these cards would cost me 3 weeks of working to get, not worth it.
I'll stick with my 1060 till a sensible card comes along, happy with it + my deck
*continues not falling for njewdia scams*
Cute Neneposter
also
>nene12
i'm on a 1070ti, is there even any reason to upgrade? it still runs mostly everything and the switch 2 coming out this year will probably guarantee it's fine for a while longer right? i guess the only game i feel i'm missing out on is dragons dogma 2 because i don't think i can run that
What is enough for a two monitor streamer setup?
If you are serious just get a 4060, it will play any and all slop that is popular to stream, anything else is just overkill
Which of this are native/dlss quality 4k card
4090
4090 is an overkill
nope you are dumb
It is
I need more. a 4090 isn't enough
it clearly isn't
Who actually played immortals of averum? I'm talking normal average games, not some unoptimized xxx le cyberpunk graphyx pretender. As far as I remember 4070ti was enough for most games
>Who actually played immortals of averum?
Nobody, that’s why it flopped. It peaked at a steam player count of 750 people.
A 1660ti is enough for all games worth playing.
you are a lost cause if you think a 4070 ti is good enough for 4k
lmao
it will bite you down the line when you realize you don't have enough vram and even then the performance won't be good enough to even play games in 2 years
4070 super should be enough if you don't enable fancy shit like rtx
including high textures
which yeah bro just play at console settings
Eh, without RT, 12GB will be enough for a while.
>literacy
>Black personacy
I'm still happy with my gtx 970 (4 gb)
Can play everything at 1080p
*can play everything I'm trying to play at 1080p
Cmon anon don't lie, you aren't even trying to play games you know won't run for sure.
ETS2 runs
My Summer Car runs
Assetto Corsa runs
Beam.NG runs
rFactor 2 runs
I'm fine
All of that garbage will have problems running GTA VI at 60fps
I just got a 7900xtx two weeks ago. Did I frick up bros?
no current games warrant the purchase of those things
Guess I'm stuck on my 1060 for another gen, hoping the 5060 will finally be the card to replace it.
battlemage looks more interesting than nvidias shitty cut down gpus