I don’t understand, what’s the problem with female Custodes? The Imperium has never been sexist as a matter of national policy, since the beginning the Imperial Guard has always gladly accepted both men and women into its ranks. The Imperium needs all the manpower it can get, why would it turn down half the population?
the imperium objectively does not think about these logistics either because we know in-setting that people in the imperium know the population is getting hollowed out (but can't change it) and we know that the IG accepts women into their ranks already. "buh buh its not optimal!" is irrelevant, IOM's entire lore base is built on extreme, borderline insane wastefulness
Because its pandering for the sake of virtue signaling, not lore building. If there have always female custodes, why have there never been any models depicting such? Because they weren't until they decided to seek Reddit gold.
there were no Custodes models fricking period for a really long time. Did male Custodes not "really" exist until the minis came out? Or does your suspension of disbelief stop at the uterus?
Anon, "man" has meant "human" for as long as English has existed in any form. The Old English word for male human is "wer". The idea that "man" never refers to the human race as a whole is a modern progressive idea.
Because everyone knows that they're only doing this to core virtue points with the terminally online political crowd that's positioned themselves as "the good guys" in the hopes that they'll gain more fans than lose and to shield themselves from criticism from that side that they 'aktually enable facism' or whatever.
People on both sides will dress it up as other things, will list their made up points and other bullshit. Even GW will pretend for optic's sake that it's not the case. But at the end of the day, people are both happy and mad because it's a purely a political decision that they hope will translate into economic benefit. At no point does the setting actually factor in and I frankly doubt the Warhammer settings themselves have truly factored into any decision GW's made about them for the last 15 years.
Makes sense, since each custodian is a custom job. Would be interesting if they are just not GIANT WARRIORS, but specialists. I think the custodes never really needed female backup since the Sisters of Silence are closely attached to them, and war, and could break up the sausage fest (and are also sometimes interesting).
>The Imperium has never been sexist as a matter of national policy
This is fricking hilarious. The Imperium is a backwards feudal space empire that literally burns people to death for fiddling around with technology that isn't Church approved. Not ONLY are they sexist, but it is the least of their problems.
original 2nd ed fluff had the Imperial Guard and the Imperial Navy entirely male
with exceptions the Imperium was originally a pretty sexist society >The Schola Progenium is responsible for the care and education of orphans of Imperial servants. From the favoured sons of an Imperial Guard colonel to the children of a scribe posted to a distant world, the Schola Progenium cares for them all. Each diocese contains a number of Schola Progenium habitats where the orphans are gathered together. Headed by an Abbot, the Preachers of the habitat educate the young in a variety of studies, including religious education.By the time a Progena reaches early adolescence they will have displayed skills in a certain direction and their tutelage to the age of sixteen will focus on these talents and hone the pupil to a career in one of the Imperial organisations. Most of the Progena will end up in the Adeptus Terra as scribes, clerks or overseers. However, a few will be assigned to higher positions. Male Progena may become Commissars in the Imperial Guard, petty officers in the Imperial Navy or enter the priesthood itself and become a Preacher or Dean (a subordinate to a Deacon). Female Progena may well be entered into the Adepta Sororitas. Progena of both sexes may be recruited into the Inquisition or even the Officio Assassinorum. It is a great honour to pass through the Schola Progenium and those who do are well aware of their privilege.
Female guard work because hefting a lasgun is rather basic, alongside the fact that guardsmen are sometimes expected to colonize the planets they conquer. That's a bit easier if a portion of your soldiers are women anyway. And if they're really bad at hefting lasguns, there are still millions of support roles within the Imperial Guard.
Custodes are something that potentially could have made sense if they hadn't written themselves into a corner by making them too similar to Space Marines in terms of genetic enhancement.
If they'd left it vague, then they probably wouldn't have had this problem. But instead they did their best to make Custodes into gold-marines.
I don’t understand, what’s the problem with female Custodes? The Imperium has never been sexist as a matter of national policy, since the beginning the Imperial Guard has always gladly accepted both men and women into its ranks. The Imperium needs all the manpower it can get, why would it turn down half the population?
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That makes no fricking sense. You never throw women into a meat grinder. Population growth is limited by the amount of women you have, not the amount of men. That why it's so rare historically that women fought. A civilization can't recover from losing a significant proportion of their women.
It's something the Imperium canonically does though.
It can take months if not years for more colonists to show up, and the guard who take the planet can serve as the planetary defense force for the world. And if it's a world that just required action from the guard to retake it, you would want that world well-defended.
Like, there are several worlds named New Cadia because Cadian soldiers conquered it and renamed it when they settled there. You can say that the Imperium would be smarter not to do that, but they clearly do it, so you're just wrong and the Imperium isn't as smart as you think.
Though I'm not sure why you're expecting efficiency or logic out of the Imperium of all places.
The war was a manufactured and "artificial" war. Artificial in the sense that yes, the war was happening, but the government's of the two super nations didn't really have animosity towards each other and were colluding with each other to keep the war going for political purposes.
Pretty sure there was never anything specifying they were all boys the way there explicitly was with marines. I don't remember anything about them at all from 2nd or 3rd. There might be an offhand reference or two but they were never relevant to anything.
>except the art always depicted them as male
Did they show you their wiener? Because it would be virtually impossible to distinguish between a male and a female with all that muscle
>the absence of something means it's impossible
A hundred and twenty years ago you would have been screaming about how planes weren't real because man has never flown and there's never been a picture of anyone flying before
Life must genuinely be awful if you're scared of change at every turn. When they stop making your brand of dino nuggies, do you cry and go fetal for a week until your momma buys you new ones?
I consume products I enjoy. You appear to continue consuming things you hate. Seems really unhealthy, anon, maybe turn the PC off, put the tissues down, and go for a walk
>A hundred and twenty years ago you would have been screaming about how planes weren't real because man has never flown and there's never been a picture of anyone flying before
You realize hot air balloons were used over a century before airplanes right? The fact that GWs own lore says they're all sons, i.e., male leaves no room for interpretation. They didn't say mostly all sons, or that the majority were sons, no all of them are sons.
>GW's lore
It's great how people go "THE LORE IS INFALLABLE" until the lore says something they don't like and then it's always "no no not that lore, THIS LORE THAT I LIKE REEEE"
Is pic the best lore and the relevant lore to you still? Or did you just arbitrarily pick whichever point in time appears to meet your personal agenda?
not him, but to me obi wan is canon and anyone who argues otherwise has yet to give me a single reason why he shouldn't be >but his name is silly to us readers!
>the canon isn't important, it can be retconned whenever who cares
So your argument was "they never said there was no female custodes" now it's "who cares what they said before, lore can be changed at any time to fit my homosexualry." Uh yeah? That doesn't make your views or that of GW any less moronic.
>When did they said there were no female custodes? >"It is known that all Custodians begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of Terra"
You know acting like a moron on purpose isn't making you look less like a shill you know that?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So, one line? That's written as second hand information? Is that all? I'm sure there must be a better line, you're fuming just so much.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>one line >That's written as second hand information?
It's from their own codex you moron. It must hurt being such a disingenous moron. Enjoy your slop homosexual lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You do not understand what "written as second hand information" means? Pardon me, I thought I was conversing with an adult. Come back after you finish school.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>written as second hand information >I believe the text written by a fat 40 year old author is "second hand" because le imaginary world is le real >this is the person telling you it's just a fictional universe
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ah, I see you don't understand what words "written as" mean.
How's primary school? I see you love Sponge Bob, very popular with that age demographic.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still packpedalling
Stop it, my sides!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That would imply pedalling back. This conversation is peddling in place and you are unable to produce more arguments. And then you wonder why nobody, GW indcluded, gives rat's ass about your opinions.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still spells pedaling wrong >still sperging out >hangry
I told you to eat something, chunker: you're scaring the other kids.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>n-no u angry!
This whole conversation started because I was so curious why you are so angry. No amount of projecting will change the fact, kid. Interesting you mentioned food wholly umprompted, guess you're american then? Explains your agressions towards literacy. Forget media literacy, you seem to have problems understanding words.
>hey, only I can use ad hominems!
Chill out, Billy-bob.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>beaten the frick out
Told ya!
You've given up the argument, and all you have is febrile, flailing petulance.
Moar!!!!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Please stop. You're just embarrassing yourself.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>blown the frick out >still sperging
I love you more than words can express!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>back pedaling
kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What packpedalling? I asked the rock hard evidence that is on par with the all male Space Marine fluff, and got one line that is written as in-universe hearsay and as such endlessly malleable.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
kek
And now you're packpedalling, whatever that is.
Stop having a stroke and go eat a Snickers, chubs.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Asking for confirmation is not backpedalling, sonny. When you finally enter High school in a few more years there should be debate club or equivalent that teaches you the basics of etiquette in these regards.
But go on. Keep on making empty insults in place of arguments, your classmates seem to enjoy that shitflinging.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>feels insulted >must've hit pretty close to the mark
kek
Oh noes! Are you buttflustered, anon?
That's because you have no argument, and you know it!
Come at me, bra!
We both know you're about to bail out of this conversation, tho......
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If I keep shitting and pissing myself the mean anon will go away!
I'm sorry you're so deathly afaraid of an actual conversation.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That would imply pedalling back. This conversation is peddling in place and you are unable to produce more arguments. And then you wonder why nobody, GW indcluded, gives rat's ass about your opinions.
Just as with the debate about female space marines, the core problem here is that people get caught up within In-Lore reasons against or for it - the latter of which you can be sure to hear from the same people who said that lore is dumb and can be changed for femmarines that will be now persistent on there never having been an explicit statement about Custodes having to be male. I don't care and you shouldn't as well. The Space Marines are all male, because its part of their aesthetic as monastic warriors and it leaves them without the other half of humanity, which they are removed from - same goes for the Sisters of Battle. The Custodes follow the same pattern, tough reminiscent of more ancient warrior brotherhoods with the Sisters of Silence beeing their counterpart, just with them beeing more closely assosciated to begin with. This is why this is bad, its an obvious breach in the established aesthetics and theme of the faction and wether or not its kept in the details of the lore or changed is irrelevant.
>A hundred and twenty years ago you would have been screaming about how planes weren't real
Planes weren't real before they were invented you fricking schizo.
>especially in a harsh grimdark regime obsessed with tradition
Except tradition in this case mandates that the Imperium allow women into the military, because that's how the Imperium has always done things since the time of the Emperor.
Seriously tho, every time GW does something a bit mea. Spirited they can just throw culture war meat at you all and you'll be too busy poking each other in the eye to notice
I'm sorry that video essayists and other grifters have deceived you into thinking otherwise, but things change between editions, that's how almost every tabletop game setting works. Like in the 1st and 2nd edition of Paranoia clones live together as a family unit but in the XP edition they don't. If someone took a crayon to the Theogony and rewrote Gaia to be a black muslim then I'd be mad but this is just a female (not a muslim or transgender lesbian female, just a female) character in a plastic toy commercial for kids. Hardly worth getting mad over.
Even then there's never been anything directly stating custodes can't be female so this isn't even a retcon really.
entire languages use the male pronoun to refer to mixed groups of people. English does as well. People still use male terms to discuss American soldiers despite women having been part of the military longer than you've been alive.
And guess what? Even if they did mean men in the fricking 4 words you CTRL-F'd, they *still* can just change it to piss you off, crybaby.
Projection. At no point did I say how I felt about the position, but to be clear I don't care. Corpo Suits gonna do what Corpo Suits gonna do and most Corpo suits these days deal in politics.
Now I'll save you time: this is where you say I'm lying and actually do care because that's the strawman you've built in your head. Then I'm suppose to reply to that which is further proof I care, round and round till one of us gets bored (it's me, I'm more emotive about how tiresome and repetitive this song and dance is on /tg/ than anything GW has done in a decade and idk why I still come here).
>I don't care about the position, I'm just going to come here and talk about how I think it's bad and I disagree with it and they're making a mistake and how I'm right and they're wrong and tell everyone what my opinion is BECAUSE I DON'T CARE PLEASE NOTICE THAT I DON'T CARE
No, please keep consooming warhammer. The last thing we need are you twittergays shitting up other games (not that you actually play warhammer kek) like deadzone or MC.
I can't wait for you to go to another property and realize that no one wants you there either. There's no conspiracy to "destroy your society", you just suck and no one likes you.
Everyone loves me. I AM gaming, which belongs to be and always has and (most important part) it always will. I am the center, and always will be. I can’t be “pushed out” because I AM wargaming and it moves where I move, leaving none behind me.
>met someone IRL who is pushing for female sped marines >didnt know who Lorgar Aurelian was
Reminder to BULLY people who want this shit and if you ever see someone with these models IRL you must BULLY and GATEKEEP them as much as possible
Lorgar is a non-entity in 40k (until they give him the frickheug Daemon Primarch model), not everyone consooms all of Horus Heresy like you do, nolife gay
>one line >That's written as second hand information?
It's from their own codex you moron. It must hurt being such a disingenous moron. Enjoy your slop homosexual lmao.
>Reminder to BULLY people
as if you didn't just awkwardly shrug and cry when they looked you in the eyes. Great job coming back here and posting about it on Ganker after you won that argument in the shower, though
Almost all those people are lorelets.
Even ADB said that stuff about femstodes BEFORE they were developed as a faction.
I can't wait for you to go to another property and realize that no one wants you there either. There's no conspiracy to "destroy your society", you just suck and no one likes you.
>There's no conspiracy to "destroy your society"
Yes it is, you hate the very existence of male only spaces. And not for progressive reasons like breaking up boys clubs with too much unnacounted power, but pathologically to the point of wanting to erase them in fiction even when they're subverted by the own authors.
This is not about equality, it's about denying men any space for them even in their own heads.
Always have, always will. I determine who belongs and who gets stony silence until they leave. And anybody caught supporting this shit is leaving, because I said so. Many such cases, and it grows the community so much when I drive out morons, gays, and femoids.
>The Imperium doesn't give a shit if you're male, female, white or black, all are equally valid meat for the grinder >Suddenly this offends people
Low IQ post.
>Reminder to BULLY people
as if you didn't just awkwardly shrug and cry when they looked you in the eyes. Great job coming back here and posting about it on Ganker after you won that argument in the shower, though
Yeah you’re exactly the type we push out of the local shops at every big event we run lol.
Almost all those people are lorelets.
Even ADB said that stuff about femstodes BEFORE they were developed as a faction.[...] >There's no conspiracy to "destroy your society"
Yes it is, you hate the very existence of male only spaces. And not for progressive reasons like breaking up boys clubs with too much unnacounted power, but pathologically to the point of wanting to erase them in fiction even when they're subverted by the own authors.
This is not about equality, it's about denying men any space for them even in their own heads.
They try, and say so openly, but they’re just very very bad at it. Stop humoring them.
>Yeah you’re exactly the type we push out of the local shops at every big event we run lol.
I'm sure, anon. You're also 6'1" and shredded, right? Got some quippy remark to scare out the normies? Did everyone clap?
>I don't care about the position, I'm just going to come here and talk about how I think it's bad and I disagree with it and they're making a mistake and how I'm right and they're wrong and tell everyone what my opinion is BECAUSE I DON'T CARE PLEASE NOTICE THAT I DON'T CARE
frick up
frick off
frick out
But really this. If you're honestly engaging with chuds and not just shitposting until they take their politics somewhere else, you're doing it wrong.
This is the kind of twerp who gets shot in page two or three and then everyone continues fighting xenos or chaos or whatever.
entire languages use the male pronoun to refer to mixed groups of people. English does as well. People still use male terms to discuss American soldiers despite women having been part of the military longer than you've been alive.
And guess what? Even if they did mean men in the fricking 4 words you CTRL-F'd, they *still* can just change it to piss you off, crybaby.
When did they said there were no female custodes? Because you're so upset it must be the cornerstore of the setting or something.
I mean it is isn't it? The only people who give a shit about it are the terminally online cultural warriors like OP who don't even play traditional games and just watch youtube videos like op. If they were actually gamers they would know this shit changes all the time, and most of warhammer's lore is just shittily ripped off from Dune and Judge Dredd
That makes no fricking sense. You never throw women into a meat grinder. Population growth is limited by the amount of women you have, not the amount of men. That why it's so rare historically that women fought. A civilization can't recover from losing a significant proportion of their women.
this is the setting where the Imperium glasses their own planet filled with TRILLIONS of people over a clerical error. You think a few billion women dying on a planet fighting the good fight matters?
Yet it's lasted 10,000 years, that's over an order of magnitude more than any empire on Earth.
It's something the Imperium canonically does though.
It can take months if not years for more colonists to show up, and the guard who take the planet can serve as the planetary defense force for the world. And if it's a world that just required action from the guard to retake it, you would want that world well-defended.
Like, there are several worlds named New Cadia because Cadian soldiers conquered it and renamed it when they settled there. You can say that the Imperium would be smarter not to do that, but they clearly do it, so you're just wrong and the Imperium isn't as smart as you think.
Though I'm not sure why you're expecting efficiency or logic out of the Imperium of all places.
That could work if you had women in none fighting roles. How often do the Imperium even take new worlds? They're mostly trying to desperately hold on to the ones they have.
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>How often do the Imperium even take new worlds? They're mostly trying to desperately hold on to the ones they have.
And part of that process usually involves sending the Imperial Guard to retake a world (which tends to have its civilian population slaughtered by the time they get there). At which point if the guard wins, then you've already got a planet's worth of militia ready to hold that world.
Again, all of this is canon. The Imperial Guard is a meatgrinder that doesn't care about individual skill enough for this to remotely be a concern. They'll send billions of men and women through the void to some hellhole planet, and it doesn't matter because they took them from a hiveworld of trillions.
>That could work if you had women in none fighting roles.
Well, 10% of guardsmen are female, canonically, so that probably accounts for plenty of support roles. Though I don't think any guardsman has the luxury of what could be called a 'non-fighting role'. Most of the Imperium's enemies aren't gonna stop shooting just because a room is full of unarmed women, and for those that would stop shooting, it'd be kinder to give those women some guns and grenades.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's stupid and immersion breaking. Any civilization can't withstand long-term depletion of the female population. Nor the noble families of Terra the millions of female applicants it would take to get a Custodes.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Any civilization can't withstand long-term depletion of the female population
The Imperium can. As you said, it's lasted 10,000 years in spite of all of this.
10% of the guard being women isn't even a major percentage. It just still works out to an astronomically large number of female soldiers due to how astronomically large the numbers in 40k are.
Again, we're talking about a setting that has populations of planets in the Trillions. Any entire female regiment would statistically be nothing to a Hive World.
You could take a million women from a Hive World and you are still left with over 999 billion. A Hive World could have over 100 times the Earth's birth rate without even trying. The Imperium is not in danger of running out of humans. >It's stupid and immersion breaking.
That's 40k for you.
>Nor the noble families of Terra the millions of female applicants it would take to get a Custodes.
As I said originally (off the topic of female guardsmen), GW wrote themselves into a corner there. They could have made it so the Custodes process wasn't like the Space Marine process. But they didn't, so here we are.
Custodes are so rare as to not even be a factor when discussing Imperial Guard though.
>Be Emperor >Cast aside racism and sexism in favor of the glorious superiority of all humanity >Millenia later losers are arguing that the Imperium should be sexist and racist
Go join the fricking Tau you homosexuals
>Be Emperor >Make all your bodyguards and super soldiers all male because that's the stronger sex which is good for killing aliens >Oh no now they were always female because muh diversity or something
He didn't come up with that. Look up the article "Drag pedagogy: The playful practice of queer imagination in early childhood" and you'll find that quote, pretty much word for word at the end.
>because there's literally no point to them
the point is having an aesthetic and theme
sisters of silence wouldn't work if there were men in them, their inspiration is inherently feminine
custdoes don't work the same if they have women in them, their silhouette is inherently masculine
what's the point of inclusivity here? aside from owning your strawmen, I mean
you think people cannot like a miniature unless it's got their own gender? that's absurd
>sisters of silence wouldn't work if there were men in them, their inspiration is inherently feminine
what the actual frick does this mean? Nulls have been both genders in the setting since forever, are you literally a secondary that just got confused by the term "sisters"?
>sisters of silence wouldn't work if there were men in them, their inspiration is inherently feminine
what the actual frick does this mean? Nulls have been both genders in the setting since forever, are you literally a secondary that just got confused by the term "sisters"?
You are missing that they were the female versions of Custodes with different abilities, while male nulls were turned into assassins.
Nothing of it was random.
>"Painting competition"
Every single prestigious painting competition disagrees with you lmao. You think Golden Demon or Resin Beast or whatever is turning women away at the door or screaming about female minis? You literally have your wojack dolls and nothing else
the amount of bioengineering necessary for turning a woman into a space marine (let alone a custodes) would just end up making them into yet more giant muscley eunuchs anyways. or are you trying to tell me they keep all of their secondary sex characteristics because big E wanted his super soldiers to still make each other horny?
Yeah I'm not even arguing on that point just yet. I'm just saying the argument for the change is silly to begin with because even if we concede that female custodes weren't outright excluded per lore, the result of this change is just more similarly augmented and thus similar looking big chaste muscle men who exist solely for killing. Now with the added background knowledge that some of them are equipped with a desiccated c**t instead of a shriveled wiener. Thanks a lot!
>There's reasons women IRL seek to have their own spaces,
yeah because dudes like you make them feel uncomfortable. They don't seek time away from you for girl time, they do it because they think you're going to lock them in your basement
You need to get out from your terminally online world.
Sometimes men and women just like to b***h about their differences with people of the same gender, and there's nothing wrong about that.
>Sometimes men and women just like to b***h about their differences
That b***hing is about you, anon. They're not complaining about men in general, they're complaining about weirdo nerds like you who make them feel unsafe and uncomfortable. Don't take that as a badge of honor, you should try to better yourself so people actually like you
I've been playing 40k for free since around 6th edition and when I do buy models they're either third party, resales, or recast, I also pirate all of my Codices and rules.
I don't know why you fricking homosexuals like being Eiffel tower'd by GW and their stock holders to much. They literally don't give a shit about you and never have. >T-T-t--tttt-then don't complain when GW does [insert gay bullshit here]
They're always doing gay bullshit, they've been testing the waters with what they can and can't get away with since 2010 if not earlier.
Did you fricking clowns actually think that GW was some based company that actually cares about their lore? And not just a plastic model company that wants more people to buy their over prices plastic models? Get fricking real.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160324234329/http://unpluggedgames.co.uk/features/blood-dice-and-darkness-how-warhammer-defined-gaming-for-a-generation/ >“The studio, the creative part of Games Workshop, had always been kept apart from the sales part of it. One thing Bryan said was that if the sales people got to be in charge of the studio, it would destroy the studio, and that’s exactly what happened.” >“I was the head of the creative department, and they weren’t doing anything creative any more,” he said. >They’d pretty much decided that game development and design wasn’t of any interest to them. The current attitude in Games Workshop is that they’re not a games company, it’s that they’re a model company selling collectibles. That’s something I find wholly self-deceiving and couldn’t possibly agree with
Reserve the decision or I will drop 40k. I refused to even engaged with Fantasy once I saw the side-shaved Stormcast. I'm even one of the only people who will admit to using Warhammer+. Reverse the decision or you're never getting another penny out of me.
I'm on mobile. Autofill. You deserve no more effort than that.
>pays for Warhammer+
You are part of the problem and a post Sigmar fan no matter how much you claim to like fantasy shill. Glad this troll thread instantly got 300 posts so it'll be gone and replaced by an identical OP tomorrow
STFU. I literally do not know the difference. The designs are terrible and the justification for things like the Eldar / Elf dildo helmets don't work in Fantasy.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hokey-dokey, sweety. Glad you love our latest clarification about female custodes. See you on WARHAMMER+, trooper! We should have a new series for all our female Custodes loving fans soon!
>pays for Warhammer+
You are part of the problem and a post Sigmar fan no matter how much you claim to like fantasy shill. Glad this troll thread instantly got 300 posts so it'll be gone and replaced by an identical OP tomorrow
Yes, absolutely, 100%. The internet is a wonderful tool, I can play any game I want without spending a dime, and when I do want new models, I can pick and choose who I get them from. If I don't like a game, then I don't have a sunk cost fallacy or buyer's remorse, and I simply choose to shit on Games Workshop at every opportunity because, like Nintendo, they're dog shit and deserve it.
You putting on lips stick and your thigh highs before gleefully getting fricked in the ass is 100% a choice you choose to make, my man.
That's what you're doing by trying to apply sexism to the Imperium. Why would the Imperium care if you're a man or a woman? You're equally human either way.
I don't know what a Black Swan is, but this has potential to be the most divisive thing that /tg/ has had happen since maybe the $1000 proxies that WotC made. Honestly though, nothing will happen, there's too much momentum for GW to back out now.
I always hated Custodes before this, I didn't think they should have been playable. But they didn't deserve this.
No but this certainly will make a few whales think again before dropping two grand on a new titan or whatever. The real black swan will be femarines or them actively committing suicide by announcing the emperor was trans or something. In any case antagonising part of your player base never ends well
>If I am a woman and say "I hate all men and all men are low IQ and stupid" that is a sexist statement you fricking moron
That's a strawman argument. Still, even then, that would not be a sexist statement. It would be a gender biased statement. It would be sexist if a man said that about a woman though because the man has more institutional power than a woman and can, thus, turn that biased statement into actual oppression.
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No matter how many times you psychotic communist creeps repeat this bullshit that you just made up by changing definitions, it will never be true.
>ITT people try to insist that a 41st millenium empire based on the superiority of ALL humans male and female would have gender standards from 40,000 years ago
to add onto this. any individual human is completely worthless to the imperium. and an individual human who can't carry as much as another in the same role is even more worthless. gender divide would be more stark not less.
>The Imperium doesn't give a shit if you're male, female, white or black, all are equally valid meat for the grinder >Suddenly this offends people
>Be Emperor >Cast aside racism and sexism in favor of the glorious superiority of all humanity >Millenia later losers are arguing that the Imperium should be sexist and racist
Go join the fricking Tau you homosexuals
The Imperium is so well known for its diversity that no two Imperial Guard regiments from two different planets are even trained to the same standards and yet a female surprises you/
stop screeching misogyny every time, this franchise has plenty of strong female characters and warriors that no one cared about, people are complaining because its moronic
>Go through gene therapy >Have your brain melted and reconstructed >Have your muscles torn out and replaced >Get 2 tons of armor put on you >Carry weapons that can rip apart demigods
>but did you know the average woman is slightly weaker than the average man? It doesn't make sense how they could do the same thing!
I haven't been to the gym in 2 years but if you gave me a fricking exosuit and a gun that shot nukes I could beat any MMA fighter in about 12 seconds. Frick right off dumbass
>I can't imagine anything that isn't written down >NO NO NO NO DON'T WRITE IT DOWN I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT
Stop thinking about girthy Custodes wieners for fifteen seconds and move on with your life
Hey dipshit, no one would attempt the whole re engineering process with a woman to begin with because they would only start with the top 0.0001% candidates which would all be men, quit being moronic.
>You are inferior to any Guardsmen
Good thing we're not talking about me, we're talking about Custodes. Can you even keep the logic straight for a single post?
Nah, anything after Priestley left the company isn't canon. But convincing people of that before was an uphill battle. Now GW shot themselves in the foot and it will be much easier!
*MY HEADcanon*
Fixed that for you. And you have that right, just don't try to force it on others.
Also: >surely this time GW will have shot itself into foot and made their fans abandon ship!
Kek, gets funnier every year.
Motherfricker your hobby is forcing your headcanon on others.
[...] >GW never gave a frick about the wants and desires of their fandom
except they do, and you're just a fringe piece of shit they don't care about. Cry about it, though.
So up until this year Custodes were catering to fringe pieces of shit? Kinda a weird decision.
>So up until this year Custodes were catering to fringe pieces of shit?
The fact that you like things doesn't mean it's catering to you. Historical companies don't cater to the fricking skinheads that unironically buy Nazi minis for wank material. You're not the demographic, you're just trying to find something to latch onto because you don't have a personality of your own
Oh, Billy. I'm actually more interested about Rick Priestley's modern writings than whatever he penned in his teens. Also what I've learned from the man himself, he's far too levelheaded to hold such a boneheaded stance himself.
Ok so it works like this: >pit a male against a female in a fight >male wins 9 out of 10 times due to denser bone structure and heavier musculature >lets turn them into super soldiers using an identical process >super male wins 9 out of 10 times in a fight due to denser bone structure and heavier musculature
Except the super female would have the exact same bone density, as such hormonal differences are trivial to balance even with modern medicine, let alone space super magic science.
>Except the super female would have the exact same bone density, as such hormonal differences are trivial to balance even with modern medicine, let alone space super magic science. >if I take a toyota corolla and boost its horsepower by 3x it'll be as good as a Ford F150 with the same improvement at offroading! >science can make it work!
(x) doubt
Everything you tourist ass deserves. I'd tell you to go and read a book, but I'd rather have you exit my hobbies.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>let me gatekeep the hobby that's already been ruined by normies
Good luck lmao. Enjoy your female space marines lel.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Enjoy attacking the goodwill of others and stealing their stuff, instead of creating something of your own to enjoy and grow.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Enjoy attacking the goodwill of others and stealing their stuff, instead of creating something of your own to enjoy and grow. >I know I started liking Warhammer 2 years ago but it's ours now, you gotta go make another thing so I can steal it later too!
Lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
oof
I see you misunderstood my observation, kiddo, kek.
But keep goin' off!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>oof
you have to go back
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>waaa you misunderstood what I meant!
Not my problem lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
kek
It...it kinda is, tho.......did teacher not splain reading comprehension to the kid who's been complaining about, ahem, reading comprehension?
kek, get gud scrub.
What are you good at other than warming your computer chair with your fat ass and sweating while climbing 1 flight of stairs? I bet my 6 year old niece could beat you in any physical competition and it wouldn't even be close, internet virgin
>GW never gave a frick about the wants and desires of their fandom
except they do, and you're just a fringe piece of shit they don't care about. Cry about it, though.
>WHAT THE FRICK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME YOU LITTLE b***h I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I GRADUATED TOP OF MY CLASS NAVY SEALS >etc etc
if you're going to do the classic, at least do the classic, anon. Or doxx yourself
[...]
Been a while since I've seen a gorilla warfare pasta
The difference is every word of mine is true, and when you idiots doubt it it only makes all of your arguments less convincing because I can see how you lack discernment and ability to tell when people are telling the truth.
The Imperium is so well known for its diversity that no two Imperial Guard regiments from two different planets are even trained to the same standards and yet a female surprises you/
>150lbs
Either you're an underfed skeleton or you're 5'2". Bench pressing 150 isn't impressive either way.
I like how you specify you "work out at the gym" without actually saying you lift. I guess you must be taking selfies in there all day if you can't break 150.
>and you won't accomplish shit because you aren't the target audience GW already told you to frick off years ago >frick the fans we wan't these redditors that don't have jobs!
If they don't want to make money that's fine with me, that strategy has worked great for Disney so far.
I don't get it, there are several all female organizations in the setting, so it only stands to reason there are all male ones. Besides the SoS are pretty much buddy buddy with Custodians so you already have a gold-theme female killer group right there that work closely with them
This the product of insecure trans women in the bobby seeking to validate the interests they still have from before they transitioned. Since they see 40k as it is as too manly, they try to "feminize" it to not feel bad about it.
Meanwhile cis women do not care about female marines or custodes and are happily into any other faction. If they like marines or custodes, it's more about the gay side of all it (funny how nobody seems to care about that)
Why do you people (morons) simp for Cavill so much? All the other morons on every site ever get their dicks hard for him but for why? Is it some sad "living through them" shit or what
>Women and non-whites won't exclude white men from a hobby the same way white men exclude them.
Sure, that's why you want to erase the only male-only factions in the game. >40k is going to become diversified
40k was already diversified and very self-aware since day 0. You're chasing a fad without understanding what you are breaking. >and out of game
Female custodes aren't going to make more women play them.
It's the product of insecure trans women in the bobby seeking to validate the interests they still have from before they transitioned. Since they see 40k as it is as too manly, they try to "feminize" it to not feel bad about it.
Meanwhile cis women do not care about female marines or custodes and are happily into any other faction. If they like marines or custodes, it's more about the gay side of all it (funny how nobody seems to care about that). You want proof? Just look at Louise Sugden.
Nah, GW used to post pics of their stores during the finecast release event. So full of kids looked like the sorting hall in the harry potter movies. Maybe in Russia where only adults can afford to play it but can't afford to buy the plastic for their kids.
This is just another clear cut case of women/progressive type people upset someone is having fun in a way that does not specifically or explicitly include or promote them.
They dont actually care or what this, they just dont like that people dont want this, they relish in the anguish and ass hurt this causes.
What ever though, they can have the game now, its dead, people are either rooting for the maggots or the corpse at this point.
It's weird that this fluff-only change to a faction that nobody plays is getting as big of a reaction as when they wholly reinvented Necrons in 5th edition, or even when they brought back Squats in 9th.
>The emperor on his way to violate little girls on a genetic level so that there bodies meet his narrow definition of female beauty all the while becoming his submissive pets
They didn't think this through very well
Why, that's hardly neccessary. Here at GW we have death care rolled into our retirement plan! We take care of our own, just like we take care of the sensibilities of our valuable customer base! We want everyone of you to feel included, no matter your ethnicity, gender, sex or nationality!
>he will likely chide and berate those who try to take the game seriously as "Nerds" and "tryhards" even though it is their community he is entering on.
I don’t understand, what’s the problem with female Custodes? The Imperium has never been sexist as a matter of national policy, since the beginning the Imperial Guard has always gladly accepted both men and women into its ranks. The Imperium needs all the manpower it can get, why would it turn down half the population?
>he couldn't think about the logistics of generational attrition warfare for even 2 seconds
Breeding, moron. Males can't poop out babies.
Says who?
Reality?
the imperium objectively does not think about these logistics either because we know in-setting that people in the imperium know the population is getting hollowed out (but can't change it) and we know that the IG accepts women into their ranks already. "buh buh its not optimal!" is irrelevant, IOM's entire lore base is built on extreme, borderline insane wastefulness
The Hive World are IMMENSELY overcrowded, what makes you think the Imperium wants more babies, they have effectively infinite manpower
With Dark Age of Technology stuff they can.
Lorelet
>The Imperium has never been sexist
Sister of battle are only women
That's not sexist.
>it's ok that only women can be sisters of battle
>it's sexist that only men can be custodes
Because of a legal loophole
Because its pandering for the sake of virtue signaling, not lore building. If there have always female custodes, why have there never been any models depicting such? Because they weren't until they decided to seek Reddit gold.
there were no Custodes models fricking period for a really long time. Did male Custodes not "really" exist until the minis came out? Or does your suspension of disbelief stop at the uterus?
How much is GW paying you to suck their wiener so hard?
Minimum wage, but I'd make fun of nerds like you for free, baby
>he does it for free
Embarassing.
Is virtue signaling bad when liberals do it?
>The Imperium needs all the manpower it can get
Keyword manpower
manpower, mankind, manhours, etcetera can and have historically been used to refer to both men and women collectively.
No, that was only recently.
When you're going up against an Ork, it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, you're far weaker either way.
This is the kind of twerp who gets shot in page two or three and then everyone continues fighting xenos or chaos or whatever.
Anon, "man" has meant "human" for as long as English has existed in any form. The Old English word for male human is "wer". The idea that "man" never refers to the human race as a whole is a modern progressive idea.
Because everyone knows that they're only doing this to core virtue points with the terminally online political crowd that's positioned themselves as "the good guys" in the hopes that they'll gain more fans than lose and to shield themselves from criticism from that side that they 'aktually enable facism' or whatever.
People on both sides will dress it up as other things, will list their made up points and other bullshit. Even GW will pretend for optic's sake that it's not the case. But at the end of the day, people are both happy and mad because it's a purely a political decision that they hope will translate into economic benefit. At no point does the setting actually factor in and I frankly doubt the Warhammer settings themselves have truly factored into any decision GW's made about them for the last 15 years.
>still caring about the corpse edition of the game
Just stop playing it, its that easy, stop playing modern 40k, go back to older editions.
Makes sense, since each custodian is a custom job. Would be interesting if they are just not GIANT WARRIORS, but specialists. I think the custodes never really needed female backup since the Sisters of Silence are closely attached to them, and war, and could break up the sausage fest (and are also sometimes interesting).
>The Imperium has never been sexist as a matter of national policy
This is fricking hilarious. The Imperium is a backwards feudal space empire that literally burns people to death for fiddling around with technology that isn't Church approved. Not ONLY are they sexist, but it is the least of their problems.
original 2nd ed fluff had the Imperial Guard and the Imperial Navy entirely male
with exceptions the Imperium was originally a pretty sexist society
>The Schola Progenium is responsible for the care and education of orphans of Imperial servants. From the favoured sons of an Imperial Guard colonel to the children of a scribe posted to a distant world, the Schola Progenium cares for them all. Each diocese contains a number of Schola Progenium habitats where the orphans are gathered together. Headed by an Abbot, the Preachers of the habitat educate the young in a variety of studies, including religious education.By the time a Progena reaches early adolescence they will have displayed skills in a certain direction and their tutelage to the age of sixteen will focus on these talents and hone the pupil to a career in one of the Imperial organisations. Most of the Progena will end up in the Adeptus Terra as scribes, clerks or overseers. However, a few will be assigned to higher positions. Male Progena may become Commissars in the Imperial Guard, petty officers in the Imperial Navy or enter the priesthood itself and become a Preacher or Dean (a subordinate to a Deacon). Female Progena may well be entered into the Adepta Sororitas. Progena of both sexes may be recruited into the Inquisition or even the Officio Assassinorum. It is a great honour to pass through the Schola Progenium and those who do are well aware of their privilege.
Female guard work because hefting a lasgun is rather basic, alongside the fact that guardsmen are sometimes expected to colonize the planets they conquer. That's a bit easier if a portion of your soldiers are women anyway. And if they're really bad at hefting lasguns, there are still millions of support roles within the Imperial Guard.
Custodes are something that potentially could have made sense if they hadn't written themselves into a corner by making them too similar to Space Marines in terms of genetic enhancement.
If they'd left it vague, then they probably wouldn't have had this problem. But instead they did their best to make Custodes into gold-marines.
See
Which is why you would want female guardsmen in the ranks to help colonize and repopulate the planet you just conquered.
That's not necessary at all. You just bring colonists from elsewhere. You would want the guard to remain in the guard for as long as they can.
It's something the Imperium canonically does though.
It can take months if not years for more colonists to show up, and the guard who take the planet can serve as the planetary defense force for the world. And if it's a world that just required action from the guard to retake it, you would want that world well-defended.
Like, there are several worlds named New Cadia because Cadian soldiers conquered it and renamed it when they settled there. You can say that the Imperium would be smarter not to do that, but they clearly do it, so you're just wrong and the Imperium isn't as smart as you think.
Though I'm not sure why you're expecting efficiency or logic out of the Imperium of all places.
>The God-Empress has always ruled over the Imperium
BASED BASED
Holy shit. STRIKE LEGION was right.
>Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia
This is actually true in 1984 though, I feel like you guys haven't actually read the book.
The war was a manufactured and "artificial" war. Artificial in the sense that yes, the war was happening, but the government's of the two super nations didn't really have animosity towards each other and were colluding with each other to keep the war going for political purposes.
I'm not sure if this is trolling, stupidity or a very subtle joke. Either way I'm giving you a 6/10 at least.
noice
media literacy lorelets btfo, read the Minitrue releases guys!
Pretty sure there was never anything specifying they were all boys the way there explicitly was with marines. I don't remember anything about them at all from 2nd or 3rd. There might be an offhand reference or two but they were never relevant to anything.
All the custodians refer to each other as brothers and refer to their "brotherhood".
Sodality literally means brotherhood.
>except the art always depicted them as male
Did they show you their wiener? Because it would be virtually impossible to distinguish between a male and a female with all that muscle
>the absence of something means it's impossible
A hundred and twenty years ago you would have been screaming about how planes weren't real because man has never flown and there's never been a picture of anyone flying before
Life must genuinely be awful if you're scared of change at every turn. When they stop making your brand of dino nuggies, do you cry and go fetal for a week until your momma buys you new ones?
don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product
I consume products I enjoy. You appear to continue consuming things you hate. Seems really unhealthy, anon, maybe turn the PC off, put the tissues down, and go for a walk
>A hundred and twenty years ago you would have been screaming about how planes weren't real because man has never flown and there's never been a picture of anyone flying before
You realize hot air balloons were used over a century before airplanes right? The fact that GWs own lore says they're all sons, i.e., male leaves no room for interpretation. They didn't say mostly all sons, or that the majority were sons, no all of them are sons.
>GW's lore
It's great how people go "THE LORE IS INFALLABLE" until the lore says something they don't like and then it's always "no no not that lore, THIS LORE THAT I LIKE REEEE"
Is pic the best lore and the relevant lore to you still? Or did you just arbitrarily pick whichever point in time appears to meet your personal agenda?
>Is pic the best lore and the relevant lore to you still?
NTA but yes. 40k peaked right at the start.
not him, but to me obi wan is canon and anyone who argues otherwise has yet to give me a single reason why he shouldn't be
>but his name is silly to us readers!
>not him, but to me femstodes are canon and anyone who argues otherwise has yet to give me a single reason why they shouldn't be
>something that hasn't been retconned is the same has something that is a retcon
are you dumb?
We're dealing with the smoothest of brains anon. Don't expect too much beyond cognitive dissonance.
>the canon isn't important, it can be retconned whenever who cares
So your argument was "they never said there was no female custodes" now it's "who cares what they said before, lore can be changed at any time to fit my homosexualry." Uh yeah? That doesn't make your views or that of GW any less moronic.
When did they said there were no female custodes? Because you're so upset it must be the cornerstore of the setting or something.
>When did they said there were no female custodes?
>"It is known that all Custodians begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of Terra"
You know acting like a moron on purpose isn't making you look less like a shill you know that?
So, one line? That's written as second hand information? Is that all? I'm sure there must be a better line, you're fuming just so much.
>one line
>That's written as second hand information?
It's from their own codex you moron. It must hurt being such a disingenous moron. Enjoy your slop homosexual lmao.
You do not understand what "written as second hand information" means? Pardon me, I thought I was conversing with an adult. Come back after you finish school.
>written as second hand information
>I believe the text written by a fat 40 year old author is "second hand" because le imaginary world is le real
>this is the person telling you it's just a fictional universe
Ah, I see you don't understand what words "written as" mean.
How's primary school? I see you love Sponge Bob, very popular with that age demographic.
>still packpedalling
Stop it, my sides!
That would imply pedalling back. This conversation is peddling in place and you are unable to produce more arguments. And then you wonder why nobody, GW indcluded, gives rat's ass about your opinions.
>still spells pedaling wrong
>still sperging out
>hangry
I told you to eat something, chunker: you're scaring the other kids.
>n-no u angry!
This whole conversation started because I was so curious why you are so angry. No amount of projecting will change the fact, kid. Interesting you mentioned food wholly umprompted, guess you're american then? Explains your agressions towards literacy. Forget media literacy, you seem to have problems understanding words.
>angry
>kid
>projection
>ad hominem
kek
Projector, heal thyself!
>hey, only I can use ad hominems!
Chill out, Billy-bob.
>beaten the frick out
Told ya!
You've given up the argument, and all you have is febrile, flailing petulance.
Moar!!!!
Please stop. You're just embarrassing yourself.
>blown the frick out
>still sperging
I love you more than words can express!
>back pedaling
kek
What packpedalling? I asked the rock hard evidence that is on par with the all male Space Marine fluff, and got one line that is written as in-universe hearsay and as such endlessly malleable.
kek
And now you're packpedalling, whatever that is.
Stop having a stroke and go eat a Snickers, chubs.
Asking for confirmation is not backpedalling, sonny. When you finally enter High school in a few more years there should be debate club or equivalent that teaches you the basics of etiquette in these regards.
But go on. Keep on making empty insults in place of arguments, your classmates seem to enjoy that shitflinging.
>feels insulted
>must've hit pretty close to the mark
kek
Oh noes! Are you buttflustered, anon?
That's because you have no argument, and you know it!
Come at me, bra!
We both know you're about to bail out of this conversation, tho......
>If I keep shitting and pissing myself the mean anon will go away!
I'm sorry you're so deathly afaraid of an actual conversation.
see
If you don't care about the lore why are you in a 40k thread? Fricking tourist.
>Is pic the best lore and the relevant lore to you still?
Yes.
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Just as with the debate about female space marines, the core problem here is that people get caught up within In-Lore reasons against or for it - the latter of which you can be sure to hear from the same people who said that lore is dumb and can be changed for femmarines that will be now persistent on there never having been an explicit statement about Custodes having to be male. I don't care and you shouldn't as well. The Space Marines are all male, because its part of their aesthetic as monastic warriors and it leaves them without the other half of humanity, which they are removed from - same goes for the Sisters of Battle. The Custodes follow the same pattern, tough reminiscent of more ancient warrior brotherhoods with the Sisters of Silence beeing their counterpart, just with them beeing more closely assosciated to begin with. This is why this is bad, its an obvious breach in the established aesthetics and theme of the faction and wether or not its kept in the details of the lore or changed is irrelevant.
yes they changed it, like so many things before
either deal with it or quit
>A hundred and twenty years ago you would have been screaming about how planes weren't real
Planes weren't real before they were invented you fricking schizo.
>especially in a harsh grimdark regime obsessed with tradition
Except tradition in this case mandates that the Imperium allow women into the military, because that's how the Imperium has always done things since the time of the Emperor.
Genius strategy.
Throw out some bait and everybody forgets the squatting.
Need to squat more? Some well timed bait will distract you all lol
>AoS shit getting squatted let to the next step toward fem marines
goddamn AoS just keeps ruining everything
Seriously tho, every time GW does something a bit mea. Spirited they can just throw culture war meat at you all and you'll be too busy poking each other in the eye to notice
I'm sorry that video essayists and other grifters have deceived you into thinking otherwise, but things change between editions, that's how almost every tabletop game setting works. Like in the 1st and 2nd edition of Paranoia clones live together as a family unit but in the XP edition they don't. If someone took a crayon to the Theogony and rewrote Gaia to be a black muslim then I'd be mad but this is just a female (not a muslim or transgender lesbian female, just a female) character in a plastic toy commercial for kids. Hardly worth getting mad over.
Even then there's never been anything directly stating custodes can't be female so this isn't even a retcon really.
Games Workshop has always been like this. Don't act surprised about it now.
Have the guts to change back into their old outfit.
They're just straight up lying.
entire languages use the male pronoun to refer to mixed groups of people. English does as well. People still use male terms to discuss American soldiers despite women having been part of the military longer than you've been alive.
And guess what? Even if they did mean men in the fricking 4 words you CTRL-F'd, they *still* can just change it to piss you off, crybaby.
The neutral of sons/daughters is children, not sons
Children has more childish sound to it
Why do you guys enjoy destroying other peoples' hobbies so much? Its not like your partake in it yourselves.
How is your hobby of building, painting, playing and loregayging now ruined? And how?
Why was your hobby of building, painting, playing and loregayging not good enough? And how?
That's how fiction works. It's not bound by any reality.
Projection. At no point did I say how I felt about the position, but to be clear I don't care. Corpo Suits gonna do what Corpo Suits gonna do and most Corpo suits these days deal in politics.
Now I'll save you time: this is where you say I'm lying and actually do care because that's the strawman you've built in your head. Then I'm suppose to reply to that which is further proof I care, round and round till one of us gets bored (it's me, I'm more emotive about how tiresome and repetitive this song and dance is on /tg/ than anything GW has done in a decade and idk why I still come here).
>I don't care about the position, I'm just going to come here and talk about how I think it's bad and I disagree with it and they're making a mistake and how I'm right and they're wrong and tell everyone what my opinion is BECAUSE I DON'T CARE PLEASE NOTICE THAT I DON'T CARE
frick up
frick off
frick out
They don't care, they'll just go on to destroy the next setting people flee to too.
No, please keep consooming warhammer. The last thing we need are you twittergays shitting up other games (not that you actually play warhammer kek) like deadzone or MC.
I can't wait for you to go to another property and realize that no one wants you there either. There's no conspiracy to "destroy your society", you just suck and no one likes you.
Everyone loves me. I AM gaming, which belongs to be and always has and (most important part) it always will. I am the center, and always will be. I can’t be “pushed out” because I AM wargaming and it moves where I move, leaving none behind me.
Male sisters of battle when?
we can only hope for the frateris templars
That would be sexist. Stop trying to erase women.
That's what Space Marines are, but the Samuel L. Jackson Sista has existed for a while now as well.
I'm sure you were livid when you found out that Brotherhood of Steel has women in its ranks.
>met someone IRL who is pushing for female sped marines
>didnt know who Lorgar Aurelian was
Reminder to BULLY people who want this shit and if you ever see someone with these models IRL you must BULLY and GATEKEEP them as much as possible
Lorgar is a non-entity in 40k (until they give him the frickheug Daemon Primarch model), not everyone consooms all of Horus Heresy like you do, nolife gay
have a nice day.
You're such a clown.
>Reminder to BULLY people
as if you didn't just awkwardly shrug and cry when they looked you in the eyes. Great job coming back here and posting about it on Ganker after you won that argument in the shower, though
Almost all those people are lorelets.
Even ADB said that stuff about femstodes BEFORE they were developed as a faction.
>There's no conspiracy to "destroy your society"
Yes it is, you hate the very existence of male only spaces. And not for progressive reasons like breaking up boys clubs with too much unnacounted power, but pathologically to the point of wanting to erase them in fiction even when they're subverted by the own authors.
This is not about equality, it's about denying men any space for them even in their own heads.
>you hate the very existence of male only spaces
The Imperium is not a male only space.
>male only spaces
gay and homopilled
keep spreading the truth anon
Always have, always will. I determine who belongs and who gets stony silence until they leave. And anybody caught supporting this shit is leaving, because I said so. Many such cases, and it grows the community so much when I drive out morons, gays, and femoids.
Low IQ post.
Yeah you’re exactly the type we push out of the local shops at every big event we run lol.
They try, and say so openly, but they’re just very very bad at it. Stop humoring them.
>Yeah you’re exactly the type we push out of the local shops at every big event we run lol.
I'm sure, anon. You're also 6'1" and shredded, right? Got some quippy remark to scare out the normies? Did everyone clap?
It's ok I'm sure your mom loves you
I bullied someone at work for agreeing with the primarchs returning but couldn't tell me who Marneus Calgar is.
So they are abandoning the Sister of Silence line too then?
nop
They abandoned it 8 years ago
This.
But really this. If you're honestly engaging with chuds and not just shitposting until they take their politics somewhere else, you're doing it wrong.
more like customer. I'm a big fat paypig whale, but I can't compete with Larry Fink. no matter how many kits I buy
You never refer to women as "brothers" or "sons".
have a nice day.
Lore is irrelevant.
t. GW
Cowards, make the big-titty Custodes minis or frick off.
I mean it is isn't it? The only people who give a shit about it are the terminally online cultural warriors like OP who don't even play traditional games and just watch youtube videos like op. If they were actually gamers they would know this shit changes all the time, and most of warhammer's lore is just shittily ripped off from Dune and Judge Dredd
>The Imperium doesn't give a shit if you're male, female, white or black, all are equally valid meat for the grinder
>Suddenly this offends people
>comparing random cannon fodder to the bodyguards of the emperor himself
Lmao have a nice day.
>Calling the Imperial Guard 'cannon fodder'
HERESY
why can't there be gender-exclusive roles?
Do there need to be? In a fantasy magitech setting?
>Do there need to be?
so that custodes look uniformly bulky and sos look otherworldly elegant? yes
again, what's the argument for why they can't they be a thing?
That makes no fricking sense. You never throw women into a meat grinder. Population growth is limited by the amount of women you have, not the amount of men. That why it's so rare historically that women fought. A civilization can't recover from losing a significant proportion of their women.
this is the setting where the Imperium glasses their own planet filled with TRILLIONS of people over a clerical error. You think a few billion women dying on a planet fighting the good fight matters?
It's just completely unsustainable in the long run. Most of the high ups in the Imperium aren't moronic, they would heavily discourage it.
>It's just completely unsustainable in the long run.
So is the Imperium itself
>Most of the high ups in the Imperium aren't moronic
lmao
Yet it's lasted 10,000 years, that's over an order of magnitude more than any empire on Earth.
That could work if you had women in none fighting roles. How often do the Imperium even take new worlds? They're mostly trying to desperately hold on to the ones they have.
>How often do the Imperium even take new worlds? They're mostly trying to desperately hold on to the ones they have.
And part of that process usually involves sending the Imperial Guard to retake a world (which tends to have its civilian population slaughtered by the time they get there). At which point if the guard wins, then you've already got a planet's worth of militia ready to hold that world.
Again, all of this is canon. The Imperial Guard is a meatgrinder that doesn't care about individual skill enough for this to remotely be a concern. They'll send billions of men and women through the void to some hellhole planet, and it doesn't matter because they took them from a hiveworld of trillions.
>That could work if you had women in none fighting roles.
Well, 10% of guardsmen are female, canonically, so that probably accounts for plenty of support roles. Though I don't think any guardsman has the luxury of what could be called a 'non-fighting role'. Most of the Imperium's enemies aren't gonna stop shooting just because a room is full of unarmed women, and for those that would stop shooting, it'd be kinder to give those women some guns and grenades.
It's stupid and immersion breaking. Any civilization can't withstand long-term depletion of the female population. Nor the noble families of Terra the millions of female applicants it would take to get a Custodes.
>Any civilization can't withstand long-term depletion of the female population
The Imperium can. As you said, it's lasted 10,000 years in spite of all of this.
10% of the guard being women isn't even a major percentage. It just still works out to an astronomically large number of female soldiers due to how astronomically large the numbers in 40k are.
Again, we're talking about a setting that has populations of planets in the Trillions. Any entire female regiment would statistically be nothing to a Hive World.
You could take a million women from a Hive World and you are still left with over 999 billion. A Hive World could have over 100 times the Earth's birth rate without even trying. The Imperium is not in danger of running out of humans.
>It's stupid and immersion breaking.
That's 40k for you.
>Nor the noble families of Terra the millions of female applicants it would take to get a Custodes.
As I said originally (off the topic of female guardsmen), GW wrote themselves into a corner there. They could have made it so the Custodes process wasn't like the Space Marine process. But they didn't, so here we are.
Custodes are so rare as to not even be a factor when discussing Imperial Guard though.
how many fricking threads are we going to have about this
Enough until people stop buying GW garbage.
don't worry. I have a feeling there'll be none at all this time next year
The people that made the setting moved on to historical wargames and minis for a reason.
>Be Emperor
>Cast aside racism and sexism in favor of the glorious superiority of all humanity
>Millenia later losers are arguing that the Imperium should be sexist and racist
Go join the fricking Tau you homosexuals
>Be Emperor
>Make all your bodyguards and super soldiers all male because that's the stronger sex which is good for killing aliens
>Oh no now they were always female because muh diversity or something
Gorillaman of all people would understand the differences between sexes. He was raised in a roman republic and called the other primarchs motherless.
Based Tau.
It's genuinely hilarious how the Tau end up being more of a traditional fascist state than anything the Imperium could ever hope to be.
So how long do you guys figure until GW caves and makes female space marines canon?
Put glitter in the carpet that will never come out
kek
Oh my God, you nailed it!
Brilliant, anon.
He didn't come up with that. Look up the article "Drag pedagogy: The playful practice of queer imagination in early childhood" and you'll find that quote, pretty much word for word at the end.
anon, fanfiction dot net is over that way. Have fun writing your homoeroticism!
>because there's literally no point to them
the point is having an aesthetic and theme
sisters of silence wouldn't work if there were men in them, their inspiration is inherently feminine
custdoes don't work the same if they have women in them, their silhouette is inherently masculine
what's the point of inclusivity here? aside from owning your strawmen, I mean
you think people cannot like a miniature unless it's got their own gender? that's absurd
>sisters of silence wouldn't work if there were men in them, their inspiration is inherently feminine
what the actual frick does this mean? Nulls have been both genders in the setting since forever, are you literally a secondary that just got confused by the term "sisters"?
not all nulls enter the anathema psykana
the sisters of silence are an exclusively female force
well said
You are missing that they were the female versions of Custodes with different abilities, while male nulls were turned into assassins.
Nothing of it was random.
>"Painting competition"
Every single prestigious painting competition disagrees with you lmao. You think Golden Demon or Resin Beast or whatever is turning women away at the door or screaming about female minis? You literally have your wojack dolls and nothing else
>You think Golden Demon or Resin Beast or whatever is turning women away at the door
They dont need to, because there are no women in this hobby
Utterly delusional. You get piss-smelling carage and delusions while I get an actual gaming club. Good trade.
This is what you get for not jumping ship during 6th ed or AoS
40k is a fricking joke. These threads are like watching two teams competing at a strawman beating contest.
the amount of bioengineering necessary for turning a woman into a space marine (let alone a custodes) would just end up making them into yet more giant muscley eunuchs anyways. or are you trying to tell me they keep all of their secondary sex characteristics because big E wanted his super soldiers to still make each other horny?
I think in the case of the Custodes, Emps cared far more for compatibility with the genetic engineering procedures than the sex of the infant.
Yeah I'm not even arguing on that point just yet. I'm just saying the argument for the change is silly to begin with because even if we concede that female custodes weren't outright excluded per lore, the result of this change is just more similarly augmented and thus similar looking big chaste muscle men who exist solely for killing. Now with the added background knowledge that some of them are equipped with a desiccated c**t instead of a shriveled wiener. Thanks a lot!
>There's reasons women IRL seek to have their own spaces,
yeah because dudes like you make them feel uncomfortable. They don't seek time away from you for girl time, they do it because they think you're going to lock them in your basement
You need to get out from your terminally online world.
Sometimes men and women just like to b***h about their differences with people of the same gender, and there's nothing wrong about that.
>Sometimes men and women just like to b***h about their differences
That b***hing is about you, anon. They're not complaining about men in general, they're complaining about weirdo nerds like you who make them feel unsafe and uncomfortable. Don't take that as a badge of honor, you should try to better yourself so people actually like you
I've been playing 40k for free since around 6th edition and when I do buy models they're either third party, resales, or recast, I also pirate all of my Codices and rules.
I don't know why you fricking homosexuals like being Eiffel tower'd by GW and their stock holders to much. They literally don't give a shit about you and never have.
>T-T-t--tttt-then don't complain when GW does [insert gay bullshit here]
They're always doing gay bullshit, they've been testing the waters with what they can and can't get away with since 2010 if not earlier.
Did you fricking clowns actually think that GW was some based company that actually cares about their lore? And not just a plastic model company that wants more people to buy their over prices plastic models? Get fricking real.
I pirate everything GW makes, but I also take note of their marxist homosexualry as well.
Why would anyone there give a shit? The creators left long ago.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160324234329/http://unpluggedgames.co.uk/features/blood-dice-and-darkness-how-warhammer-defined-gaming-for-a-generation/
>“The studio, the creative part of Games Workshop, had always been kept apart from the sales part of it. One thing Bryan said was that if the sales people got to be in charge of the studio, it would destroy the studio, and that’s exactly what happened.”
>“I was the head of the creative department, and they weren’t doing anything creative any more,” he said.
>They’d pretty much decided that game development and design wasn’t of any interest to them. The current attitude in Games Workshop is that they’re not a games company, it’s that they’re a model company selling collectibles. That’s something I find wholly self-deceiving and couldn’t possibly agree with
Reserve the decision or I will drop 40k. I refused to even engaged with Fantasy once I saw the side-shaved Stormcast. I'm even one of the only people who will admit to using Warhammer+. Reverse the decision or you're never getting another penny out of me.
Grim.
>reserve
So keep it? Okey-dokey!
t. GW sales department
I'm on mobile. Autofill. You deserve no more effort than that.
STFU. I literally do not know the difference. The designs are terrible and the justification for things like the Eldar / Elf dildo helmets don't work in Fantasy.
Hokey-dokey, sweety. Glad you love our latest clarification about female custodes. See you on WARHAMMER+, trooper! We should have a new series for all our female Custodes loving fans soon!
-GW sales department
>pays for Warhammer+
You are part of the problem and a post Sigmar fan no matter how much you claim to like fantasy shill. Glad this troll thread instantly got 300 posts so it'll be gone and replaced by an identical OP tomorrow
Board should block all posts containing the word "custodes" for a month
>I don't contribute I only leech and complain
Thanks for making that clear, nerd
Yes, absolutely, 100%. The internet is a wonderful tool, I can play any game I want without spending a dime, and when I do want new models, I can pick and choose who I get them from. If I don't like a game, then I don't have a sunk cost fallacy or buyer's remorse, and I simply choose to shit on Games Workshop at every opportunity because, like Nintendo, they're dog shit and deserve it.
You putting on lips stick and your thigh highs before gleefully getting fricked in the ass is 100% a choice you choose to make, my man.
That's what you're doing by trying to apply sexism to the Imperium. Why would the Imperium care if you're a man or a woman? You're equally human either way.
No matter how many times you psychotic communist creeps repeat this bullshit that you just made up by changing definitions, it will never be true.
/tg/, is this the black swan moment?
It certainly has the potential to be, it's all down to how GW handles the backlash and so far they are doing a very terrible job of it already
I don't know what a Black Swan is, but this has potential to be the most divisive thing that /tg/ has had happen since maybe the $1000 proxies that WotC made. Honestly though, nothing will happen, there's too much momentum for GW to back out now.
I always hated Custodes before this, I didn't think they should have been playable. But they didn't deserve this.
>I don't know what a Black Swan is
>no one could have predicted hyperinflation in Zimbabwe
No but this certainly will make a few whales think again before dropping two grand on a new titan or whatever. The real black swan will be femarines or them actively committing suicide by announcing the emperor was trans or something. In any case antagonising part of your player base never ends well
>If I am a woman and say "I hate all men and all men are low IQ and stupid" that is a sexist statement you fricking moron
That's a strawman argument. Still, even then, that would not be a sexist statement. It would be a gender biased statement. It would be sexist if a man said that about a woman though because the man has more institutional power than a woman and can, thus, turn that biased statement into actual oppression.
don't bite the baitest of bait pls
>ITT people try to insist that a 41st millenium empire based on the superiority of ALL humans male and female would have gender standards from 40,000 years ago
superiority of humanity not superiority of all humans. a human is utterly worthless.
to add onto this. any individual human is completely worthless to the imperium. and an individual human who can't carry as much as another in the same role is even more worthless. gender divide would be more stark not less.
The Emperor was born in 8000BC, do you think he instated a DEI program? ffs
stop screeching misogyny every time, this franchise has plenty of strong female characters and warriors that no one cared about, people are complaining because its moronic
anon, you can tell how he's structuring his replies in order to get the most (you)s that it's 100% bait
You're not an Imperium fan if you're advocating for Heresy
Aren't you the one arguing that its ok for weak pathetic females to be guarding the Emperor? Sounds like a slaaneshi plot to me.
>Humanity
>"Weak and pathetic"
HERESY
>Go through gene therapy
>Have your brain melted and reconstructed
>Have your muscles torn out and replaced
>Get 2 tons of armor put on you
>Carry weapons that can rip apart demigods
>but did you know the average woman is slightly weaker than the average man? It doesn't make sense how they could do the same thing!
I haven't been to the gym in 2 years but if you gave me a fricking exosuit and a gun that shot nukes I could beat any MMA fighter in about 12 seconds. Frick right off dumbass
Nah, I'd win.
Most boys die from that, all girls die from that. That's just for space marines, who are far weaker and easier to manufacture.
Are you implying that the Emperor was so stupid he couldn't figure out how to make it work for women? HERESY
The Emperor outright said he didn't want to do it.
Except we have female custodes so we know that you're just spouting xeno propaganda HERESY
>xeno
>I can't imagine anything that isn't written down
>NO NO NO NO DON'T WRITE IT DOWN I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT
Stop thinking about girthy Custodes wieners for fifteen seconds and move on with your life
>no argument
have a nice day
Hey dipshit, no one would attempt the whole re engineering process with a woman to begin with because they would only start with the top 0.0001% candidates which would all be men, quit being moronic.
this is the same energy as my 50 year old uncle with a mobility scooter thinking he could beat women in the Olympics.
You are inferior to any Guardsmen, male or female, that has ever picked up a lasgun. Eat your hamburger and jerk off to sleep
>You are inferior to any Guardsmen
Good thing we're not talking about me, we're talking about Custodes. Can you even keep the logic straight for a single post?
This is unironically the most excited I've been about 40K in years
those are supposed to be women?
>marinlet gettibg absolutly mogged
As it should be
A brit did write that.
Turns out new fluff trumps old fluff
Nah, anything after Priestley left the company isn't canon. But convincing people of that before was an uphill battle. Now GW shot themselves in the foot and it will be much easier!
*MY HEADcanon*
Fixed that for you. And you have that right, just don't try to force it on others.
Also:
>surely this time GW will have shot itself into foot and made their fans abandon ship!
Kek, gets funnier every year.
Motherfricker your hobby is forcing your headcanon on others.
So up until this year Custodes were catering to fringe pieces of shit? Kinda a weird decision.
>So up until this year Custodes were catering to fringe pieces of shit?
The fact that you like things doesn't mean it's catering to you. Historical companies don't cater to the fricking skinheads that unironically buy Nazi minis for wank material. You're not the demographic, you're just trying to find something to latch onto because you don't have a personality of your own
>blah blah blah
So why were there no female custards minis?
The guy that made it knows better than people that actively hate the setting.
Rick Priestley has far better things to do than argue about canon.
Rick Priestley created 40k, you tourist. Only his word counts. No one cares what some corporate exec cuck with no creative talent says.
And you can go ask him if he thinks female custodes are a bad idea or not. But what will you do if he says he's cool with it?
Oh, Billy. I'm actually more interested about Rick Priestley's modern writings than whatever he penned in his teens. Also what I've learned from the man himself, he's far too levelheaded to hold such a boneheaded stance himself.
You keep avoiding the guy who beat you the frick out, sperganon.
Why run when your arguments are so good, kiddo?
I don't have the slightest idea whatever you're referring at. Please keep your delusions to yourself.
frick off
Look at all the good they did for Star Wars though.
>ITT people are acting confused that the hyper-fanatic superstitious empire doesn't adhere to biological standards based on the scientific method
On a scale of one to ten, how mad are you that Hasbro made He-Man tell you to buy the other toys in the line?
I could beat an 18 year old male wrestler if I had a gun. So what?
An infant could beat you if it had a gun. Unfortunately combat is more than just shooting a gun, especially in 40k.
please take your meds. Your family is worried about you
>Implying that the Emperor isn't capable of making women just as great super-soldiers as men
HERESY
Ok so it works like this:
>pit a male against a female in a fight
>male wins 9 out of 10 times due to denser bone structure and heavier musculature
>lets turn them into super soldiers using an identical process
>super male wins 9 out of 10 times in a fight due to denser bone structure and heavier musculature
>Implying the Imperium couldn't turn women into equally as good super-soldiers
HERESY
>If I keep samegayging eventually they'll stop complaining!
Nice try HERETIC
Except the super female would have the exact same bone density, as such hormonal differences are trivial to balance even with modern medicine, let alone space super magic science.
>Except the super female would have the exact same bone density, as such hormonal differences are trivial to balance even with modern medicine, let alone space super magic science.
>if I take a toyota corolla and boost its horsepower by 3x it'll be as good as a Ford F150 with the same improvement at offroading!
>science can make it work!
(x) doubt
>Implying that the Emperor couldn't make male and female supersoldiers equally good
HERESY
Tourist.
>no argument
Lmao
Everything you tourist ass deserves. I'd tell you to go and read a book, but I'd rather have you exit my hobbies.
>let me gatekeep the hobby that's already been ruined by normies
Good luck lmao. Enjoy your female space marines lel.
Enjoy attacking the goodwill of others and stealing their stuff, instead of creating something of your own to enjoy and grow.
>Enjoy attacking the goodwill of others and stealing their stuff, instead of creating something of your own to enjoy and grow.
>I know I started liking Warhammer 2 years ago but it's ours now, you gotta go make another thing so I can steal it later too!
Lmao.
oof
I see you misunderstood my observation, kiddo, kek.
But keep goin' off!
>oof
you have to go back
>waaa you misunderstood what I meant!
Not my problem lmao.
kek
It...it kinda is, tho.......did teacher not splain reading comprehension to the kid who's been complaining about, ahem, reading comprehension?
kek, get gud scrub.
>Satan is in charge of GW
Would explain a few things tbh.
What are you good at other than warming your computer chair with your fat ass and sweating while climbing 1 flight of stairs? I bet my 6 year old niece could beat you in any physical competition and it wouldn't even be close, internet virgin
>no argument
have a nice day.
Why are you avoiding my questions, big guy?
Why have you run away like a cowardly b***h?
I don't answer questions from mentally moronic people. I just give them a juicebox and smile. Have fun on the short bus!
Bye bye my pathetic young friend! Sorry you got all butthurt and angry.
>GW never gave a frick about the wants and desires of their fandom
except they do, and you're just a fringe piece of shit they don't care about. Cry about it, though.
The Imperium has always celebrated the diversity of Humanity. If you want uniformity, join the Tau.
>WHAT THE FRICK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME YOU LITTLE b***h I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I GRADUATED TOP OF MY CLASS NAVY SEALS
>etc etc
if you're going to do the classic, at least do the classic, anon. Or doxx yourself
The difference is every word of mine is true, and when you idiots doubt it it only makes all of your arguments less convincing because I can see how you lack discernment and ability to tell when people are telling the truth.
The Imperium is so well known for its diversity that no two Imperial Guard regiments from two different planets are even trained to the same standards and yet a female surprises you/
So? This is a science fantasy setting where genetic engineering and biotech are both readily accessible.
Been a while since I've seen a gorilla warfare pasta
>Source: It was revealed to me in a dream.
Yeah, buddy. I don't think you stand on solid ground with that.
His source is that all societies are run by men.
>Please believe me I am cool and rich and smart and people like me
You are on Ganker, dumbass
>17 women
why didn't they stay
I cheated on a lot of them. I didn't say I am a saint who always made correct moral choices.
>terminally online loregay secondaries seething
post models.
>150lbs
Either you're an underfed skeleton or you're 5'2". Bench pressing 150 isn't impressive either way.
I like how you specify you "work out at the gym" without actually saying you lift. I guess you must be taking selfies in there all day if you can't break 150.
You realize the MMA lightweight division is right around that weight and every person in it can fold you like a pretzel right
Are you an MMA fighter? Because if you were, I'm sure you would have said something about it earlier.
>tfw the Imperium fanboys turn into heretics as soon as they find a single aspect they don't like
>Implying that humans are superior just because they're trans
HERESY
is the ship of theseus still a female after we rebuilt it into a rocket ship?
it was always a rocket ship
and you won't accomplish shit because you aren't the target audience
GW already told you to frick off years ago
>and you won't accomplish shit because you aren't the target audience GW already told you to frick off years ago
>frick the fans we wan't these redditors that don't have jobs!
If they don't want to make money that's fine with me, that strategy has worked great for Disney so far.
now post gw stock
So a poor white man has institutional power, but a rich black man doesn't?
I know some Custodes are women 😉
Do they have models?
I don't get it, there are several all female organizations in the setting, so it only stands to reason there are all male ones. Besides the SoS are pretty much buddy buddy with Custodians so you already have a gold-theme female killer group right there that work closely with them
This the product of insecure trans women in the bobby seeking to validate the interests they still have from before they transitioned. Since they see 40k as it is as too manly, they try to "feminize" it to not feel bad about it.
Meanwhile cis women do not care about female marines or custodes and are happily into any other faction. If they like marines or custodes, it's more about the gay side of all it (funny how nobody seems to care about that)
the existence of a women only group doesn't mean there has to be a male only one
and soon there won't be once female marines are introduced
they will soon, along with a book or two, I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that ADB is already writing one
So, no models. Huh.
Too bad for your argument, eh?
Why would the existence of all-female organizations imply the existence of all-male organizations? The Imperium doesn't give a shit about equality.
Cope
Why do you people (morons) simp for Cavill so much? All the other morons on every site ever get their dicks hard for him but for why? Is it some sad "living through them" shit or what
you have to go back
>he says while replying to obvious bait
Try to keep up: I've been destroying his booty-blasted ass, he's on the run, and has given up all pretense of argument as he spirals out of control.
damn son youre new
>female custodians
so sisters of silence? I don't get it. Like people b***hing about female space marines when the sisters of battle are already here
>WTF why is the dystopian empire doing things I don't like!
...because it's a dystopia?
I'm sooooo glad I've drop2hkrvped 40k shit, lol
>Women and non-whites won't exclude white men from a hobby the same way white men exclude them.
Sure, that's why you want to erase the only male-only factions in the game.
>40k is going to become diversified
40k was already diversified and very self-aware since day 0. You're chasing a fad without understanding what you are breaking.
>and out of game
Female custodes aren't going to make more women play them.
It's the product of insecure trans women in the bobby seeking to validate the interests they still have from before they transitioned. Since they see 40k as it is as too manly, they try to "feminize" it to not feel bad about it.
Meanwhile cis women do not care about female marines or custodes and are happily into any other faction. If they like marines or custodes, it's more about the gay side of all it (funny how nobody seems to care about that). You want proof? Just look at Louise Sugden.
He's trolling, he doesn't care about actual reality or people who play actual games.
You are 100% correct.
Nah, GW used to post pics of their stores during the finecast release event. So full of kids looked like the sorting hall in the harry potter movies. Maybe in Russia where only adults can afford to play it but can't afford to buy the plastic for their kids.
This is just another clear cut case of women/progressive type people upset someone is having fun in a way that does not specifically or explicitly include or promote them.
They dont actually care or what this, they just dont like that people dont want this, they relish in the anguish and ass hurt this causes.
What ever though, they can have the game now, its dead, people are either rooting for the maggots or the corpse at this point.
It's weird that this fluff-only change to a faction that nobody plays is getting as big of a reaction as when they wholly reinvented Necrons in 5th edition, or even when they brought back Squats in 9th.
Everyone is increasingly aware of what changes like this can lead to in a franchise
There weren't as many reactionary trolls back then. Now there are dozens of grifters riling them up every time a woman is mentioned.
They drive away true fans to embrace new fans that will never buy their products
Bruh it's all made up
>Not willing to read a few sentences
That's the same thing as admitting I’m right, so I'm happy with that.
>The emperor on his way to violate little girls on a genetic level so that there bodies meet his narrow definition of female beauty all the while becoming his submissive pets
They didn't think this through very well
It's not okay that they've been doing it to boys, either, but nobody seems to mind.
>Read that scene of the Norn emissary ploughing through custodes
>Imagine them as women
>Giggle
Why, that's hardly neccessary. Here at GW we have death care rolled into our retirement plan! We take care of our own, just like we take care of the sensibilities of our valuable customer base! We want everyone of you to feel included, no matter your ethnicity, gender, sex or nationality!
>he will likely chide and berate those who try to take the game seriously as "Nerds" and "tryhards" even though it is their community he is entering on.
Yikes
Janny, keep it up this time, we need more proof as to why Reddit is the superior platform.
I like how obvious it is that it's just one dude autisticly defending gw in this thread lel
>Emperor rediscovers a female Primarch
Now what?
Holy shit you malformed sexless freaks are actually SHRIEKING over this
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad