Oh no...it sure would suck if you couldn't just use roar, whirlwind, taunt, or mach punch to shut this down. Literally no counters!
Oh no...it sure would suck if you couldn't just use roar, whirlwind, taunt, or mach punch to shut this down. Literally no counters!
>dragapult used draco meteor
lol?
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tera Steel Kyurem: 144-171 (36.8 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>cloyster does it
🙂
>kyurem does it
>:*(
>tera ghost shell smash with my Cloyster
>enemy surrenders
Hard countered by Skeledirge
I think you're right. I'm not too heavily into competitive, so I don't think I've got the right setup, so feel free to enlighten me.
and it can learn roar also not that it needs it
Special sets always Earth Power, or if it's the physical set +1 Loaded Dice Scale Shot just murks you unless you Tera Fairy, but that leaves you open to Icicle Spear.
+1? Vs an Unaware mon? Nephew…
This is the guy running Smogoonersville?
Fricking troglodyte
He's one member of the Gen 9 OU council. He doesn't run Smogon
Finchinator is a israelite. They always worm their way into power despite lacking the competence for it, and then act selfishly and maliciously. Textbook.
Anon sent out Shedinja!
>B-BUT IT'S BANNED IN MY FANFIC TIER
Don't complain then, homosexual
it's not even in the game you dumb frick
It is in every game until B2W2 which is every game that matters
what is it banned in then
Natdex
Finch is still seething to this day? Kek
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-746266
It's not even him playing. He is literally overreacting because the guy who is using Kyurem is playing against an idiot player. Frick this guy and his lying bullshit.
stall vs stall
Watching that replay yeah any set up mon would've swept there, kyurem or not kek. The fricking dumbass using stealth rocks on skarm after switching in. Like kyurem isn't staying in until you whirlwind
He's clearly salty about the community not voting to ban
https://twitter.com/Finchinator2/status/1756392528679436755
I love his pathetic excuse about skarmory doesn't run whirlwind 90% of the time
Like I wonder maybe it's because the gholdengo coin homosexual in top #3 of usage that blocks hazard removal? Perhaps you ban him so you have ways to deals with no only hazards, but set up sweepers too?
>https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-746266
Both of them fricking suck
Who has a goddamn body press skarmory with max defense and doesn't use body press against a fricking tera steel kyurem with only icicle spear?? No loaded dice either.
And who fricking switches out to gliscor??
Why is this a thread??? Get this wack shit out of here.
ahhhh pressure. I get it. Subsitute for pressure.
Still. Why didn't the fool have whirlwind or just use bodypress? I hate when yall post garbage replays expecting responses.
GET BETTER
kyurem stalled out skarmory's body press pp with pressure, protect, and substitute, you fricking morons. they set up hazards on protect because they don't want to lose more pp. you people are so idiotic it's amazing
pressure is too overpowered, it drains my pp dry, please ban
The collective IQ of Smogonwhiners is 12 which is what their average age is too.
>uses calm mind even if kyurem already revealed freeze-dry
how is this moron head of the smogogay council?
probably predicted a switch
anon, using counters to things is just uncompetitive! Why should I have to adapt when the coooooonsil can just ban it for me?
Post the copypasta.
what pasta
>send in arch
>get +5 because yourr opponent decided to troll with this shit Kyurem set
Wow, what a meta threat!
oh no arch might be banned so now we need to ban kyurem
and oh no kyurem got banned so now we need to ban the thing kyurem kept in check!
>We found scissors to be unbalanced, so we're suspect testing it
>wtf, paper has no counters, we'd better ban it
must be a sign from god that Black and White remakes are gonna be real
I would be able to tolerate smogon a lot more if they weren't all fart huffing pseuds about everything they do when at the end of the day they're just seething morons
If Smoggies were ever to be completely honest with everyone and themselves, Smogon would collapse over night. The whole organization and format is built upon comfortable lies, and attracts insufferable people as a result.
>Smogon would collapse over night.
Nah. The support base is pretty healthy.
anytime they do a suspect test they link to an awful music video, why?
SMOGON BANNED MY FAVORITE POKEMON
me when my janiitan applcation gets deented
Get some Hot Potkets. They'll help cheer you up.
>azurill used perish song!
+1 252 Atk Kyurem Icicle Spear (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Azurill: 328-388 (107.8 - 127.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The only reason /vp/ hates Smogon and VGC is because they're bad at competitive.
Smogon is bad at comp too, what's your point?
Smoggies are typically pretty good at comp. Freezai made it to worlds the first year he decided to try his hand at VGC, and he would've made it to Day 2 if he didn't get incredibly unlucky. Just some random Smogger decided one day to pick up VGC and became a top 500 player in the world.
>Smoggies are typically pretty good at comp
I don't think inventing your own ruleset to win like you're the snotty fat kid on the playground is indicative of skill
It doesn't matter what you think, jabroni
>Doesn’t know how to read
Anon’s post is literally about a Smogon player becoming top 500 for VGC their first and only losing due to bad luck.
Meanwhile you can’t even make it to Master Ball rank on ladder.
>Smoggies are typically pretty good at comp.
jfc
>THE competitive pokemon resource is bad at competitive
???
Yeah, at least Smogon. Most of the people there make up the dumbest, shit reasons why a pokemon is in the ranking it's in. I get that some pokemon are plain bad or too good, but I kind of feel like that's all you need. If it's good, it's good and vice versa. Some randos can make better sets to make a pokemon decent than the morons at Smogon.
>>THE competitive pokemon resource
>smogon
Do you have a better resource in mind?
Yeah let's all be honest for once. Smogon really does suck with those rules and banning mons.
I mean banning sleep? Arbitrarily banning pokemon or strats for what seems like keeping up the stall gameplay. It's too obvious to me.
Oh no, mechanics of the game? How can one possibly deal with sleep? Berries? Frick no. Abilities? Why the frick would I do that? Stall? There's absolutely no way to counter it. Nuh-uh, nope. Totally no pokemon sets to deal with anything like that. At all. But, I want a bunch of rules to follow and an arbitrary set of guidelines that have to get updated every generation because I can't handle dealing with things on my own. I have to follow the rules.
they don't understand how metagames work, they will always organically adapt to whatever is good, but with their bans, they MAKE the meta they want instead of letting it develop archaludon and rain is good? a team with sets that are easily counterable? i'll have to change my team to adapt instead of using the same strats for everything? NOOOO BAN IT IT'S TOO GOOD
And I understand that not everyone can remember every pokemon's learnset, stats, and abilities, so knowing what to counter something with can be annoying, but if you've encountered it at least once or twice you'll know. It just gets so annoying seeing the same shit over and over again and I don't like playing their shitty tiers. It's not fun. It's like spamming the same deck over and over again, just because you want to get wins in a TCG. It's fricking boring. I think it also takes away part of the way the game functions; making a team with what you like and learning how to use it or thinking of ways to cover as many corners as possible. There's tons of solutions, and I know some aren't good, but it takes away the fun of testing things yourself and making people face the unexpected.
Then bring Pokemon you like and figure out how to make use of them in higher tiers?
aren't you forced to play specific pokemon if you go play in specific tiers (on showdown)?
>smogon critic never even tried to play the format
If I only had a dollar for each time that happened.
I have, I just don't use Showdown because it's ass and Smogon is shit.
>I have
Clearly not.
My favorite pokemon is flutter mane. How come it won't let me use it in OU?
>Berries? Frick no
knock off
>Abilities? Why the frick would I do that?
anti-sleep abilities are a massive opportunity cost. No sleep or your mon has weak MU vs certain sleepers and it's dead weight.
Most uses of knock-off are on physical dark-types. And if it's such a huge threat, why would people still be using hold-items? There's 7 dark-types in OU at least and 4 of them are physical. How often do you even see that? And I get in some cases, if the pokemon has a certain ability, like Annihilape having vital spirit vs. defiant, you're probably going to use defiant. But if you've got no other choice, you're probably going to pick the anti-sleep. But, I think it all boils down to 'how often do you see this?'
>Most uses of knock-off are on physical dark-types
lmao.
why can't you also use sleep
Zacian is balanced, just use Quagsire.
just slow uturn into dragapult and ohko the thing with infiltrator draco meteor. easy game.
oh wait, you can't do that because muh heckin tera? HMMMMMMMMMM
Gee, it sure would be nice if you could use Whirlwind and get rid of the problem!
Oh, wait, you can't do that because you'll get predicted and countered by a switch into Gholdengo? HMMMMMMMMMM
if only they banned tera day one... now they look like clowns. imagine banning aegislash for creating 50/50s then letting this mechanic exist
>if only they banned tera day one
So Gen 8 2.0?
why do these guys want to ban DAMP ROCK?
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE AN EASILY COUNTERABLE SET CONTAINING MONS WITH COMMON CHECKS BECAUSE... YOU JUST CAN'T OK? USE KINGAMBIT AND GHOLDENGO NOW!
Daily reminder that Smogon is a israeli website that harbors actual pedophiles!