Ok but why are there MMO-tier dps checks/timers in my ARPG? I thought Monster Hunter was about muh planned and strategic hunting – where's the logic in encouraging mindless aggression and relying on RNG? Oh and forget about multiplayer for this one, not like anyone bothers bringing elemental weapons.
Had a good time with Iceborne, MH in general, up until this point. First time playing one but this is where I drop it, won't waste my time any further.
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>no counter argument
>play this PSPjank from 2 decades ago or you're a hecking secondary
Uh gonna be a pass from me, I'd rather play the latest entries with passable gameplay+visuals.
Tell that to the people bringing defender longswords.
>still hasn't adressed the fact that there's an timer
I do bring an elemental weapon; what I'm saying is that unless he uses his attacks with the largest windows for punishment you might as well abandon it and try again. It's entirely RNG dependant because of Escaton, just a shit mechanic.
Not to mention him going up in the air while enraged, leaving you with frick all to do as the timer keeps ticking.
Ok, I figured you were just the typical Alatreon troll, so I'll try to help you.
>what I'm saying is that unless he uses his attacks with the largest windows for punishment you might as well abandon it and try again
Here's the biggest concern. What weapons are you using? Are you bringing your cat? Those two questions can help immensely.
>It's entirely RNG dependant because of Escaton, just a shit mechanic
I agree it's annoying in multiplayer because the elemental check threshold is much higher, and you do have a lot of dead weight in random SOS. But in solo, the only real trick is breaking the horns to ensure he never changes element.
>Not to mention him going up in the air while enraged, leaving you with frick all to do as the timer keeps ticking.
Bring smoke bombs. People really never use these and I understand because you never really need them at all in the game. Smoke bombs work when he's flying because when you're hidden, he will land and begin to look for you. When he's looking, he's stuck in an animation so you can run up to him and get some hits before he aggros again.
>unless he uses his attacks with the largest windows for punishment you might as well abandon it and try again. It's entirely RNG dependant because of Escaton
The chances of Alatreon somehow not allowing you enough openings to clear the elemental check are astronomically low, chances are your build is just shit and you don't know how to properly take advantage of openings so your damage uptime is terrible
I love how MHW's endgame hunts with their shortened time limits and DPS checks exposed the true shitters in the community
I bet he plays lance hiding behind his pussy shield all the time
Play MHFU or shut the frick up secondary
>can't solo
>blames teammates for failing in co-op
Many such cases
>I thought Monster Hunter was about muh planned and strategic hunting
Yeah, you plan for the hunt by bringing element.
>Can literally solo Alatreon even with blast if you just eat two carts. Greatsword Chads can even beat it with raw without any carts.
>Or equip even the shittiest ice weapon, hit it a few times and it falls over like a fish out of water.
It's amazing how many shitters refuse to just adapt to the rules of the fight and git gud.
>only require to learn the fight instead of thinking about the dps check
>literally gives his head to smack it
it's all in your head nu alatreon is easier than ever
I'm with you, OP, but I also don't particularly mind if it's on a few mons. The problem was there were too many Event mons with similar mechanics, and they added hunts that essentially required actual roles to be filled with Behemoth and Safi.
Just to add, old school Fatty had similar DPS checks.
I killed G-Rank Nargacuga solo just yesterday.
I'm pretty proud of myself. He is one speedy fricker. G-Rank makes me sweat pretty hard.
>and they added hunts that essentially required actual roles to be filled with Behemoth and Safi.
What roles? Just smack the fricking monster
>b-but muh tank and healer
Carrying dusts of life doesn't constitute being a healer and anyone can evade meaning anyone can "tank"
I get where you're coming from, but the intent of these mons was for there to be roles, and that's how most casual groups formed around them. The key is the lack of single player scaling, which, while I understand, I don't think was a good idea.
>I get where you're coming from, but the intent of these mons was for there to be roles
No it wasn't. Calling yourself a healer is literally the fastest way to make yourself into a joke in monhun community. These were not designed with roles in mind, what the frick are you smoking?
>Me and my friend decide to cool off after losing to Fatalis a dozen times
>We decide to join some randos raging brachy hunt
>Its another 2 man apparently they have been stuck on him for a long time
>Me and my friend cart like once over 5 tries at the hunt
>We dont mind are basically just chatting
>Other 2 dudes are apologizing constantly
>About half way through the hunt I realize im being healed and we havent had any carts yet
>Look around
>One dude is unironically corner horning
>Other dude is friendly spamming heals with SnS
>mfw
I cant believe people can live with themselves I basically cucked them out of the satisfaction of beating the monster themselves.
>Everyone gets potions
>Everyone gets powders
>Everyone gets health stealing weapons
>B-b-b-but h-how w-will t-they stay alive, I m-must h-heal t-them
Corner tooters are genuinely the worst garbage of monhun, at least shitters have the audacity to pretend they're helping. These motherfrickers just stay away from the hunt patting themselves on the back for doing what some honey and herbs can do. Imagine literally validating your existence on something that is obsoletted by a handful of pixels.
I play hyper-aggressive unga-bunga. I tack on all the flinch, stun, stagger, etc... resistance I can, I stack all the defense reduction I can, I put on a health stealing weapon grab all the damage buffs I can, and start unga bungaing away. I literally always see my health bar only going up because of this, when I see a corner tooter I either get them removed or remove myself if that's not an option. Don't need em' tooters, simple as.
Also there's nothing worse that having to stop my ungabunga every two seconds to run after the monster because it keeps chasing that corner tooting homosexual that keeps going to the opposite side of the area so he has "Distance"..
I play Horn occasionally and Corner Horners are annoying. Especially in World since healing songs take too long to be of any use anyway. Might as well have an SNS with wide range if somebody wants to be the heal bawd.
I hate corner tooters because it's always some moronic reasoning with them. Like when they go:
>How come nobody gives the other weapon users shit when they're learning to use their weapons?
Maybe because other weapons still hit the enemy while they're learning, and they eventually stop "learning".unloke corner tooters who perpetually rely on that excuse.
>mindless aggression
you grugs are funny. can't expect much from bladies with no concept of planning.
Can't you just use your return to camp item if you see that the burst is coming? If I recall, you could tank the lower tier ones with cheap items like jerky too.
Lmao. I remember the day ala released and all of you gays complain about hitting the damage threshold. Which is horse shit because every failure I had in alatreon was because randoms were carting. It's a combination of pussy and garbage players carting which lowers total dps.
tldr alatreon elemental threshold overstated by trash players. you're garbage.
I remember joining random quests and the first time we survived the Nova we failed to break the horns. Good memories, I hope to see something like that in SB, beyond the afflicted monsters
>Alatreon is still filtering shitters
God I love this homie like you wouldn't believe
>where's the logic in encouraging mindless aggression and relying on RNG?
Except it doesn't encourage that. It encourages targeting the horn with precision while also being aggressive and avoiding attacks. If you can't manage that, it's a legit skill issue on your end.
>muh mh didn't used to have DPS checks
motherfrickers don't even remember lao-shan lung
Alatreon is probably the most based monster followed by Khezu in the 2nd place and Barioth in the 3rd
Filtering casuals since day 1
The only thing wrong with the dps check is the fact that some weapons get punished harder than others.
Solo Hammer has a tough time getting a single topple and has to rely on that spin to win move for good elemental buildup.
And Solo Dual blades can get two (2!) topples without changing anything about the playstyle.
All they needed to do was look over those dps check modifiers again and change some numbers. Their math was just ass.
you're supposed to the monster with your sword until it dies
there is no step 2
no flowchart, no diagram
just hit the monster until it dies, that's all
My only problem is that you have to use Elemental weapons. I don't care about the fight otherwise
It tells you how to do it in the tutorial, the pop up is hard to miss
Unironically only raw gays complained, just do it solo and it's way easier
Yo gays is it worth doing any of the village sidequests
Kinda, if they are villager requests then do them, if not you can more or less ignore unless youre a completionist
Alatreon was objetively the best fight in World.
Nope, Safi was.
Someone post the image where a redditór makes a post about how he got depression because of Alatreon.
Secondaries, shitters and redditórs shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion
L monhun Wild hearts better
Mild Farts will be forgotten in a month.
The only problem with alatreon and Fatalis is that you have to sit through their long supernova animations everytime you fight them, in the case of alatreon I wish that if you failed escathon he buffed himself and became faster and more aggressive for a while and if you succeded he does a quick animation of failed transformation and jumped back into the fight.
Monster Hunter as a whole has had plenty of soft DPS checks in the form of various buffs and powered up stats monsters can be knocked out of for damage opportunities, or even just things like Duram's spin attack which can be used to knock him down. Even the earlier gens gave elder dragons enormous health pools that were meant to be whittled down over two or more quests. Soft DPS checks have become increasingly common since 4th gen in general, Alatreon is only unusual in that it's the first non-siege fight with a hard DPS check instead of a soft one.