Okay Ganker you may have been right about ray tracing
Okay?
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Okay Ganker you may have been right about ray tracing
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that image says nothing, fixed non-rt reflections might be more appealing (aka everything is shiny and reflects something artistically) but irl not everything has a reflection
rt is good, the issue is the massive performance hit it causes in exchange for what it brings to the table
>fixed non-rt reflections might be more appealing (aka everything is shiny and reflects something artistically) but irl not everything has a reflection
>easily fooled moron too stupid to understand the shot was set up to show PS4 in good light and PS5 in bad light.
An entirely subjective opinion from a schizo/depressed artist (redundant, I'm aware) without the skill to produce hyper realistic art.
You're a contarían retard.
you didn't understand, I don't use RT myself because I think fixed reflections look more artistic/beautiful, you cannot argue they're overall 'better' though since RT simulates real reflections with light bouncing off shit and is very impressive technically
ultimately it's taste, and since it's a 50/50 thing I don't think the massive performance hit it causes currently makes it worth it
>Realism
>In the age that of retarded hacks that are unable to mimick the beauty of nature and all art is filled with ugly garbage void of any semblance with reality
Realism is beautiful because nature is beautiful. It is made even more beautiful when the creation is enodowed with the order we identify with reason such as certain geommetry.
>nature is beau- ACK
d'ye no see the beauty in that picture laddie?
t. nineteen year old agender human.
>That repeated grass texture
>Sky is just a white box
Lmao this is PS1-tier graphics
Retarded, there are far more artists that can render a lifelike image today than any time in the past, and they’re better at it
Don't tell you actually think RE4 looks realistic? LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Even the RT light is highly stylized when it comes from where the traced light source comes from.
Wow I didn't know Mussolini was this based
It's Hitchcock, dumbass
is shiny and reflects something artistically) but irl not everything has a reflection
you dont know how this works, cubemaps with paralax correction looks better than RT except it's static and takes a lot of disk space.
This guy was wrong about movies because chi doesn't look realistic and it also looks terrible, while convincing practical effects in the 80s and 90s looked great
>non-rt reflections might be more appealing
yep, and that's all that matters in the end. Case closed. Fuck RT
>but irl not everything has a reflection
Everything you can see does
I know what you're trying to say, but even matte surfaces show reflections under the right conditions, like bright lights at a shallow angle
right looks better because that's how they're supposed to look
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idgi
literally no difference
Non RT look better
You can see everything clear and clean
Yes, with all that blue light coming out of your drooling mongoloid retard ass.
It incentivizes using a torch
>he still trying to justify spending $1500 on a video card
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right is more realistic, left has the sky reflection bleeding onto everything. look around your house, is everything slightly fucking blue?
wow rtx on and it just looks like skyrim
>People will pay 800-1500 bucks for a setting they can manually adjust themselves
You're not poor are you anon? Haha ha...
ray tracing works like shit in TW3
there are much better games, like Control, Cyberpunk, even fucking RDR2 or Spider-Man Remastered
there's plenty of games where ray tracing looks amazing, but TW3 update was fucking shit. i downloaded the game only to check how it looks post patch, and it barely changed and now requires high end PC, fucking laughable
I'm pretty sure the baked in lighting is aesthetically better than with RT on in Cyberpunk.
At least that's how it was on release.
a simple screen won't give you an idea of how cool ray tracing is, unless you've got good PC that can run games with ray tracing, you will not be able to appreciate it
not even a good quality video will give you that feeling
It's light, dude. Everyone everywhere knows how light and reflections work. It's not some arcane secret that lets you play "you have to see it to believe it!" card
>Everyone everywhere knows how light and reflections work
No, they really don't. Ask a general person about light color transfer and they'll wont have the faintest idea.
There's a difference between having the ability to describe the technical details of an everyday experience and being able to recognize it.
Nothing that you can't make with older lighting methods but they didn't because of nvidia money.
yes you can technically make it but 1. not in a dynamic way and 2. you'd have to put a shitton more effort into setting up a scene in a way that it looks as good as raytracing would
I know that people use these to shitpost and the others that doesn't think too much of it get really defensive about it, but in my opinion this is a generational diference on lighting and shadows.
Looks like a shitty reshade mod lol
Its not like raytracing can do anything baked lighting and reflection maps cant do. Theyre only advantage is in motion, which granted means all the screencap baits being posted aren't completely representative. It can definitely look worse than a good ol bake if the lights aren't moving around. You can expect devs to make sure every raytrace game footage has the player holding a torch or flashlight
>Looks like a shitty reshade mod lol
It really does, i too remember when reshade mods manage to CREATE new lighting.
You really are a straight up mentally retard little mutt.
None of the semantics you think that matter, actually matter. You think "creating new light" is somehow a huge deal. It isn't. What matters is how the scene you see is composed on the screen, regardless of what underlying systems were used to achieve it. Raytracing is just one way to achieve certain effects - for now, a very expensive way.
>Its not like raytracing can do anything baked lighting and reflection maps cant do.
>is dynamic, mutable in runtime
It's like the difference between games that have all of their sounds dynamic based on events, and games that have static audio queues. Sure, you can get away with static audio queues, but once you want something complex or emergent to happen, it falls apart. Reflection maps can't do things like reflect moving entities, leaves player character completely ungrounded from world.
im viewing this on a non rt video card so it can be done without RT
>RT one needs to be post-processed to death to not look like ass
Literally 5 minutes in reshade except reshade doesn't cost 1000 eurodollar
Post the picture with the FPS showing, there was one and the fps was like 4
Ray tracing literally a useless meme to make people pay thousands for new Gpu's and new consoles.
The thing is, raytracing uses AI learning to generate the lighting conditions
Older methods take time because you have to manually do everything, RT eases up that burden for the developers
however, in its current state, it's just a massive performance hog and depending on the game, doesn't even make it look better
the tech is still way too early, once it starts to actually INCREASE frame rates while looking good, I'd say that's when it's worth to pick up
>the charges officer?
Being too based for this world.
Drawing porn of kids?
Absolutely. If you're that afraid of artistic expression, maybe you do deserve to have all of your rights stripped away from you.
>artistic expression
>drawing porn of irl kids
Yes, congratulations on finally understanding what "artistic expression" stands for.
The seething on this thread is amazing lmao, i always tough the poorfag was a meme, but holy crap Ganker you really never fail to amuse me.
Soul
Is that a mod or did Quake 1 get ray tracing?
Path Tracing mod, made by the same guy that did Serious Sam, Doom and most recently the Half Life one.
Cool, thanks.
looks awful
some parts look good
Yeah I'm sure the HD lighting totally doesn't look out of place with the blocky textures
Stop shilling that crap
>that broken texture tiling in the Source version
It's like gamers don't even know what the fuck they're looking at. Devs too, if Valve actually thought that was acceptable.
bruh left looks so much better dat water finna be bussin frfr no cap
>use a fuckton of electricity, computing power and fatigue high end products to paly stuff that would run on a 64 mb vram GPU
why do we even increase our productivity if we throw any extra value through the window? just to suffer?
>needs to make every projectile give off 20000 lumens so the raytracing can be shown off
Give a more reasonable use case and baked lightmaps aren't gonna seem so bad
webm unrelated? kek looks like shit bro
>looks like shit moron
are we looking at the same webm?
Can you not run it or something?
I think we are looking at the same webm. Difference is, I'm not trying desperately to justify my purchase of a $2000 GPU
>I'm not trying desperately to justify my purchase of a $2000 GPU
You don't own a 2k gpu.
Why is the ceiling plywood in an ancient castle
I straight up disabled SSR, since I couldn't see any visual difference and it actually was made significant performance difference.
Didn't even try ray tracing.
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This anon tried to raytrace his post.
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anon please stop the light reflections are going to kill you, you have to stop it
Ray tracing is busted on PS5 it doesn't work in RE4 demo
Console RT =/= true RT
RT =/= Path tracing
Ganker is both correct and wrong about RT. It's unnecessary for a game to look good and function well and fast. It's also the only way for games to have correct lightning, shadows, materials and reflections.
RT is cool and all but it really seems like a graphics mod rebranded as a new gimmick for the latest sucker to fall for. Most of the improvements could be made with a few mods for way less resources.
it's a pretty incremental upgrade but you gotta remember almost no games at the moment are only fully raytraced so you don't really get all the benefits but the all the performance drawbacks since you are essentially running 2 ways of lighting at the same time.
The reason RT atm is so meme is it's used in really limited capacity, check Metro Exodus RT version vs the normal version to better see how it really looks like
Less hardware resources sure, but a lot more man hours to bake everything and even then the game still end up being less interactive
I highly doubt any time saved would be used to better the game, either a faster release to please the shareholders or just more money to be pocketed by the ceo.
Besides, wouldn't a full widespread adoption of rtx mean that lighting effects would be standardized and many games would get the same feel, thus lose a part of it's artstyle(unless the artstyle requires rtx)?
>another retard who thinks gamedev is playing legos
you can make raytraced lighting look stylized, i bet you think LE ALL UNREEYUL GAMES LOOK DA SAEM too
nah you still gotta manually place the lightsources and design the environment so it looks nice. You don't just press a button and the game is made for you. RT is not mean to be an easier way to make lighting in games, it's just more accurate and realistic
>Okay Ganker you may have been right about ray tr-ACK!
If SSR wasn't that shiny it would be less jarring, but yes, for certain things RT is cool.
Wow, that tiny difference is sure worth losing 70% of your fps for
Just turn SSR off, it can be done in RE4 Demo and the game looks and works great.
I did this for RE2 too, but I don't remember if it was a setting or a mod
SSR have always been a joke IMO, i just turn them off
didn’t need Ray Tracing back in the ‘90s and ‘00s when things were comfy, don’t need Ray Tracing now in the ‘10s when things are shit
take Ray Tracing and shove it up your fucking ass, Chang
>I don't need tech to move forward because I don't have the resources to buy it
>unironically is a consoomer
your generation is fucked
>unironically is a 30-something poorfag seething because he doesn't have the means to keep up with his hobby
For fuck's sake, are you the schizo who believes anyone who doesn't suck Nvidia's cock is a poorfag with low end specs by 2008 standards?
You talk about tech moving forward but you leave outside one very important aspect, O P T I M I Z A T I O N
Imagine if we continued building more powerful computers... but without reducing their size. The moment you can optimize games to run better you can have more liberties for graphics AND content. Right now games are more demanding but offer less. Somehow you need better GPUs to run them without them offering an increase in quality of the same caliber. It's a dead horse but if your game demands more than Battlefield 1 and looks worse than Battlefield 1, then you are failing somewhere.
Not to mention the spacing required, why do I have to download texture for resolutions I don't use and audio for languages that won't be used by me?
All games that use the same systems and are striving for realism look the same.
Look at you flapping your mouth off on the internet because someone pointed out the blatantly obvious cope.
If you can't keep up with gaming then go and take up some finger painting as a hobby or whatever , stupid little man.
Lmao, you don't care about gaming in the slightest, you just enjoy shitposting.
That's kinda sad, I unironically pity you
>No U
pointing out you being a poorfag isn't me coping.
I mean if it's so easy why not just do it yourself?
I mean all the companies are just purposfully making them so bad just to make to spite US, the GAMERS, amirite?
WE gotta take matters into our OWN hands and make games great again.
That'd be kinda cool honestly, despite the colossal effort needed
NVidia won't fuck you dude, chill B)
You gotta go back.
Aight, so far you've used the "poorfag" option, now the vax option, you're left with calling me a chud. If you're feeling courageous you could call me a moron consolegay.
Maybe use whatever money you have left to buy some proper insults, if you can afford it lmao.
I say what I see. Don't like it. Don't act like it.
kek, this you?
i bet those guys are happy how their country turned out
at least they're not speaking german
that takes
>CJ? OOOOH MY DOOOG
to a whole new meaning
cool name
You do realize light maps in quake/hl/etc were generated with prebaked into textures with ray tracing?
>things were good when I was a child and literally too stupid to pay attention to the world around me, and now that I'm an adult I don't feel the same a child, why did god forsake me?
You turn that shit on it's like 45fps
The original game played on a Gamecube with component cables connected to a hi-res CRT monitor unironically looks better.
I don't know why but at some point early into current gen every single dev forgot how to make textures that look like anything besides cheap rubber or plastic. Every single character model looks like some fucked up botox monstrosity and I can't fucking understand why people are shitposting about ray tracing as if this problem doesn't exist. Am I the only one who sees it?
That's because of PBR
guys I don't care about all your arguments, just tell me straight up what settings do I use on PS5
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Tech advances, yet designers still think ordinary daylight looks like a nuke going off.
The subsurface scattering on the vegetation looks great
but the shadows are too dark and the light is like acid to your eyes
>increases contrast and brightness
>fucks up the water
>adds bloom everywhere
so... this is the power of raytracing...
there's a strong correlation between people who cry about ray tracing and people who can't run ray tracing.
>MORE REFLECTIONS
>MAKE EVERY SURFACE REFLECTIVE
>MORE
>I NEED MORE REFLECTIONS
>I NEED TO SEE MY OWN REFLECTION IN THE GLANS OF MY WIFE BOYFRIEND'S COCK!
>NOOOOOOOW THATS TRULY IMMERSIVE
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If you are mad about ray traced reflections this webm you make you blow a gasket.
Looking forward to seeing the cope on this. ha ha
what game is this?
Star Field
the new Watch Dogs
RT is the new HDR, great in theory but horrible in practice because developers are incompetent.
HDR is great unless you're still using some ghetto TV from 2015
I'm using an LG TV from 2018, HDR was poorly implemented in pretty much every third party PS4 game.
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Let's see Tim Sweeney's ray tracing
5.1 looks amazing in Fortnite.
not as amazing as your mother pussy lol *does the griddy into her pussy* oooOh right foot creeping im walking with that heater!!!
isn't it strange how people got stuck up on shitty games with shitty RT implementations but ignored genuine good examples like
This entire board is about ignoring evidence. Way easier to do with your web browser closed I don't know why they come here
I get about 50 FPS with RT High and 90 with cubemaps
Reminder that any TW3 comparisons are dishonest snake BS.
So called next gen version purposefully gutted SSAO and removed HBAO altogether to make RT look more appealing by comparison.
Those comparisons the autistic fuckwad is posting? TW3 did not look like that in 2015.
ok but does Witcher 3 run at 60fps on PS5 with ray tracing enabled?
ahahahahah.......Ahahahahhahaahahahahahaha! HAHahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
what's so funny about it cuck?! Answer my question or don't fucking reply to me
>reminder: I haven't installed Witcher 3 in 4 years but I get upset that I can't run it with the RT update.
Everyone posting shit about Ray Tracing. Post your PC Speccy or hwinfo
Games that actually use RT to their fullest are few and far, i can only think of Metro Exodus or Spiderman on pc.
You guys are actually hilarious to look at. Looking at maybe a handful of titles that MAY or may not be worth looking at for maybe a brief moment. In what world is this worth any extra cost to framerate which you'll notice 100% of the time. You've been brainwashed.
>muh frayyms
not every game is csgo
Call me when RT performance doesn't drop below 60 fps that isn't a fucking flagship GPU. It's a joke. This isn't even 4k. I'll take a stable 4k 120hz any day over this shit.
>4k
even more of a meme than RT, sorry you fell for it bro
I was playing at 4k before I even had a 4k monitor with custom resolutions and stuff like DSFix.
What is your phone number?
Why does your wizard lok like tommy wiseau
leave my fucking wizard alone
>4090
I guess you need his number since you're illiterate.
What an absolute charade. How much processing power was spent to produce this screenshot? And yet it looks no more appealing than modded Skyrim.
bethdrones unironically believe this
I could have named a lot of other games from a decade ago and your cope would be just as powerful. Tech has fucking stopped and you people are paying for nothing.
>posts a pic in a place where no RT effects are even present in game, despite the FPS also being lowered by it enabled
>4090
>clearly not native 4k, using dlss or otherwise a cherrypicked area as all reviewers have the 4090 native with rt at ~60 fps with mins in the 40s
try again
>Posts pic in place where save game loaded
>"no you can't use DLSS that's cheating"
>,,, all while forgetting it still runs at double fps to what your junk PC runs at
>thinks he has a point which isn't retarded
The original guy who psoted said
>Call me when RT performance doesn't drop below 60 fps that isn't a fucking flagship GPU
You have a flag ship gpu, you posted an area that looks like it would run at 500 fps on a 750 ti nothing impressive going on
post your fps numbers from an entire run of the game and see if it didnt drop below 60 fps and that might be valid but you also have a flagship gpu so thats 2 strikes
>You have a flag ship gpu, you posted an area that looks like it would run at 500 fps on a 750 ti nothing impressive going on
I posted an area with RT water reflections taking up a large part of the scene. It was more of a FPS show than an image shot.
>post your fps numbers from an entire run of the game
No. I'm not a dog. I don't need to justify anything to you.
Western devs are lazy or something.
Like in Hogwarts when you go into dialogue a cinematic lighting rig gets enabled that makes the talking npc look good but it looks like there was no thought made to the player character because half the time the PC looks like he's lit like a PS3 game, probably because the PC gets placed inside the light rig that's perfectly placed around the npc.
But hey they used it because they could pay a lead artist a couple days pay to rig the system up and then leave it to the drones to use without thought in every single dialogue for the rest of the game.
>cinematic lighting rig gets enabled that makes the talking npc look good
Good lord, what does she look like WITHOUT the lighting rig?
I too played Hogwarts Legacy on a 4090 and it runs like crap RT effects or not. Had to run it in with dlss (1440p) with frame generation to not dip below 60 all the time at 4k.
Then afterwards I played Final Fantasy VII Remake where all the lighting is "faked" but the difference is it's all manually placed and tweaked by artists and it looks a thousand times better. It really looks like a CGI movie at times. Even though I have to run it in 6k to get rid of the retarded dithered hair it still runs at 100+ fps and looks incredible.
Western devs are obsessed with a one size fits all solution and even if it looks like shit 90% of the time they'll use it because it looked good in the demo made for the producers (see "cinematic" camera in Fallout 4)
I know you're supposed to be making a point, but what is it?
LE SOVLFVL HAND PLACED BVKED LIGHTING also I LOVE JAPAN NIPPON SUGOI!!!!!!!
>Imagine spending 1600-2500 US Dollars on a GPU just to run games with ray tracing
>rape the lighting system in your faux update to make ray tracing look better
>retard gif anon claps like a seal
Knew I had the right idea on disabling my W3 download updates before that shit patch went online
I haven't watched the digital foundry analysis yet but I've read online that RT is broken on PS5?
The hair option looks like trash aswell.
I get 80~110 at 4K with everything maxed out in W3. It's not bad at all.
RTX is cool, but its extra graphix.
It won't turn a shit game into a good one just because it supports it.
RT is fucking gay and its visual boost is minor and not worth the performance tanking to utilize it
>1440p 60hz not yet standard, let alone anything better
why are we wasting time with RT when a decent baseline for graphics hasn't even been established yet? it's a waste of resources
NOOOO I MUST BUY THE 5000 DOLLAR 4K 240HZ SCREEN AND IF MY GAMES CAN'T RUN ON IT I'LL THROW A SHIT FIT!!!!!!!!!!
what?
It's hilarious that Nvidia chose Portal as a showcase of ray tracing, a game that has 98% static lighting. Nearly all of it could have been pre-baked lighting with the dynamic lights still ray traced and performance would have improved 10x.
They used it to show their remastering software, not just raytracing. Also lights cast accurately through portals, there's large metal surfaces, moving glowing balls, etc. It's also playable at 30fps if that's all your hardware can do
>It's also playable at 30fps
Game easily ran at 60fps in 2007. I don't know how much copium one needs to huff to not see the pointlessness of all this.
And in In 2027 baked lighting won't exist
>Anon that complains about superior technology he can't stop and doesn't have to buy calls something pointless
>superior technology
Marketing slave.
Car is superior to a horse because it's faster and cheaper to maintain.
RTX is superior because... it's.... slower and more expensive?
>my entire personality is feigning ignorance that better graphics cost more in the present
OK you do you. Why can't you just be happy with the last video card you consoomed like you pretend to be
>better graphics
Really not seeing it though. Honestly. The things that were achieved with baked for years are more aesthetically pleasing than vast majority of RTX titles today.
>but ray tracing makes it easier for devs to-
Whoa there. I don't give a fuck.
>Really not seeing it though
Woah there. I don't give a fuck.
Anon, be honest. Can you look at utter mediocrity like this
and glaim it's the pinnacle of graphics because uhhhh it has raytracing I guess?
Fox beneath the grapes demanding honesty
You don't know what to do after someone has seen through you. You just hope they will keep playing the game. Find another hobby, try liking things that are good
Ah yes, another armchair grandmaster who has "seen through me" based on 3 anonympus posts.
I honestly hope your age begins with a 1 because it's sad if you still think like this as an adult.
>Age 10 is when children notice there is something wrong with me
Yeah but how did you know my chair had arms
Oh look an adult role playing that raytracing looks bad lmao
>The things that were achieved with baked for years are more aesthetically pleasing than vast majority of RTX titles today.
That's because there hasn't been a game made with ray tracing in mind yet. All implementations to date are pretty much just filters overlayed over traditional video game lighting.
and they still run like dogshit? huh.
Unless an area doesn't have enough light sources, most games look better path traced
>The things that were achieved with baked for years are more aesthetically pleasing than vast majority of RTX titles today.
I'm always doing this in real life. I walk outside and wish reality was shadow mapped and rays weren't real
RTX is still just an illusion. Everything you see on the screen always will be. Ways to achieve the illusion don't matter as logn as the end result has artistic merit.
That's not the point. Natural accurate lighting is beautiful. It's not the only thing that's beautiful but it's definitely more beautiful than a flawed facsimile.
honestly I'm barely seeing any difference in games now in terms of visual fidelity vs games from 5+ years ago. Games coming out now barely look better than games like RE7 and God of War 1 that came out almost a full gen ago. Raytracing can look nice but it's a relatively small change for the amount of power it asks for.
@631072478
Have a pity (You) from a bystander.
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Ray Tracing is a meme
RT On clearly looks better
Not worth the reduction in frames per second.
Looks better, but with current hardware, not worth the performance hit.
Either SLI 4090ti's or don't bother.
I prefer re8 without raytracing. Same as remake3 etc.
>Finally get a top of the line PC for the first time in my life.
>After about 5 minutes of playing on ULTRA I always turn everything down to low to maximize framerate
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