The only reason you stop reading fairy tales as an adult is because you realize previous adults lied to you about the world. So in your rage, you dump the fairy tales. Only to discover they are nice and beautiful. But then you're too old and fragile to care about the truth so you lie to the new generation as well. Fricking humans. Disgusting.
>The "I heckin love science" people are the villains
he never got that far - he immediately stood up, and started screeching "THIS IS REDDIT, THIS IS MEMES" before his dad had to run in and beat him with a belt.
The whole DLC's humor is just that though? Not just the villains, and even if only the villains were like that, it wouldn't make it good. A villain having shitty writing that's painful to sit through doesn't make it fine just because they're the villains.
in that other dlc where that black guy is rambling about The Divide for like 10 hours, I had gotten so sick of hearing the words The Divide that I pulled out my shotgun and blew his head off without even listening to his final conversations at all.
They are quirky morons because the real lobotomites were the Think Tank scientists all along.
They have been brain damaged and kept in a loop on purpose.
It predated it's peak, but corny pop-science with wacky humor is probably older than you.
I'd say BBT really kicked it off and that released in 2007, 4 years before OWB.
The whole Dawkins/New Atheist movement also helped. The God Delusion came out in 2006.
3 months ago
Anonymous
And the "AUDIENCE STARTS LAUGHING UNCONTROLLABLY" BBT pasta already existed on Ganker before OWB came out, so we were already looking down on that type of humor.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Didnt really stop OWB from being funny, thats what happens when you hire actually good voice actors.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's nice dear, but Ganker had a whole shitstorm about how it tried too hard to be funny and pander to the BBT crowd.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Wow cool did you guys do a raid? Did you call for blackup?
>bombards you with 30 minutes of le science dialog >was just pretending to be moronic
I'm gonna frick your ass then claim I was just satirizing gay rapists.
All of the DLCs have level scaling, just like Fallout 3 did. Only Fallout NV's base Mojave Wasteland doesn't have any scaling at all, making it the odd one out.
Dead Money has way too much fricking dialogue and story, the writers had their heads up their asses thinking their material was much better than it actually was
I really cringed during the conclusion speech
I'm a storygay and I hated it cause the gameplay is abysmal and all the outside areas are too samey looking. >welcome to fallout haha
Yeah but this takes the cake.
3 months ago
Anonymous
obviously you're not a storygay if the story isn't king. I'm not sure why you seem to want to die on this hill.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because you agonizing the whole way through doesn't make up for it. Storygay doesn't mean "durr nothing else matters", might as well not play fricking videogames in the first place if that's your definition.
I can't wait to see how dogshit your idea of "good writing" is. It's always something hilariously shitty whenever anyone who comes off with this horseshit "durr de writing is le CRINGEY and PRETENTIOUS" take.
Honestly it was a nice suprise. There should be more of shit like this were you get punished for mindlessly clicking dialogue options because they're tied to a skill check
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's plenty of clear negative skill checks in the Fallout series, even 3 had them (eg: blowing up megaton). It's pretty clear what a skill check will accomplish almost every time. This one was just a dishonest bait and switch.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I liked what they went for, but it was kind of bullshit because up until that point you've never encountered something like it, so you would have no way of knowing. They really should have implemented more "Speech check isn't autowin" beforehand.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The concept isn't bad, but one skill check fricking you over is moronic, specially since the whole point is that Dean is petty egocentric with a fragile ego, something you wouldn't know when meeting him
To me, they should've made it like a secret reputation with him, where the more competency snd showing off you do, the more pissed of he gets
3 months ago
Anonymous
The real problem is that you can't try to talk him out of it if you have an even bigger speech check or have him not be pissed anymore depending of dialogue choices when you make small talk with him during the DLC, that at least would've been nice.
>one-up the spiteful frick >expect him to not hate you for it
That speech check instance alone is beyond based. Dean is a dick and him dying IS the good ending. He fricks over Sinclair because hes an evil jealous prick. Do you guys even into context?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Let's not pretend anyone expected that speech check to backfire anon, no need to defend it. You can skill check way worse pieces of shit than him without that happening.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That speech check didnt backfire, it did exactly what it was meant to do. Everyone just gets butthurt they have to kill their c**t of a companion
>the presentation is very well done >railroaded throughout the entirety of it by means of explosive collar and red cloud in an open world RPG >very well done
BUT DUDE, THEY SAID "learn to let go" 30 TIMES IN THE DLC, ITS FRICKING DEEP!!!!!!!!!!
>BUT DUDE, THEY SAID "learn to let go" 30 TIMES IN THE DLC, ITS FRICKING DEEP >reductive moron has to make up talking points for me just so he could attack it
go be obnoxious somewhere else
3 months ago
Anonymous
In this moment, I am euphoric, not because of some phony good writing, but because I learned to let go, just like Dead Money taught me.
3 months ago
Anonymous
and here you are, still unable to let go.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're right, i cannot let go of this game because its fun. neither can Ganker for continuing to post in it well over a decade later including you
Also I never let go lol, I take the gold every time
Trying to make the fricking fallout 3 engine of all things into something it's not was a moron level decision. I actually like being stripped of my OP gear, when it happened in the Pitt it was fairly engaging getting replacements bit by bit. Getting my head blown off my stupid radios and being attacked by unkillable holograms was not great. Oh and the repetitive enviroment. Also the writing in all the DLCs is way wonkier than the basegame, probably since theyre supposed to be super character driven.
It was good, but a better concept than execution. I don't think NV was the right game to try and make a survival horror out of
I also dislike how the technology seems to work like magic, stretching even Fallout's logic
Also the ending. It's super contrived that Elijah has mega bombs ready to detonate that will conveniently stop you from getting all those gold bars, and that he can't be sneaked around, or have his force fields hacked
>Old World Blues
Words words words, Reddit humor, le funny plot twist >Lonesome Road
Eh, not bad, not good >Honest Hearts
New Vegas's Blue Shift (in the sense that it's just more of the same) >Dead Money
Great if you can get into it, but too many moronic and annoying gameplay mechanics
I didn't realize Mad Max invented leather jackets, deserts, shotguns and dogs. You a Palworld hater by any chance, genius?
I think that's a meme because his detection for which faction you're supporting is shit so 90% of the time he thinks you're NCR even when you're not. I installed the fix mod and supported House and he was more going on about me supporting old world ghosts and stuff.
>he was more going on about me supporting old world ghosts and stuff.
And then he gives you a copy of his outfit, because for some reason House gets the Old World flag instead of the Lucky 38 logo
LR is like the white phosphorus scene in Spec Ops, but worse because it's based on constantly berating the player character for something that they didn't actively choose to do and that happens entirely off screen. If the plot were in any other game Ganker would be tripping over themselves to shit on it.
LR gives the player the ability to deny they ever had anything to do with that though. Also it kind of becomes obvious that Ulysses was so desperate for answers, he started seeing patterns and connections that just weren’t there.
Even if you go that route you're still stuck walking in a straight line for several hours while listening to him monologue about stuff that never actually appears in the game. It's tedious and stupid.
One of the terminals in NV has a guy who had my character's name/nickname as a surname
So i like to think Ulysses saw a courier who shared that surname destroy his life, seethed about it for years, then saw another guy who sorta shares the same name and kinda maybe looks similar if you squint from a few yards away, and decided they were the same person without confirming it.
I mean, even without that coincidence that’s pretty much what happened. He was seething so badly over what happened to the Divide, that he started piecing it together in a way that only made sense to him. Dude was so lost in symbols he couldn’t deal with reality, which is that sometimes in the Wastes, shit just happens.
Oh hey, I do that too.
That's why I always name my Courier's simple names, because it needs to something common enough that Ulysses saw in a terminal and fantasized a whole story about
Kek
I named mine Rook, to fit with Benny, since Benny and Rook are both the names of trump/joker cards in some card games.
The part where it could be a real name was incidental, but i really liked it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh you Black person that's actually pretty good.
Funny enough, I named a VtMB character Rook, to fit with the whole chess motif and animal thing bc he was a Gangrel
With NV I tried to give the Courier the simplest, more common names to justify why no one ever calls him by name. Shit, like "Russ", "Jon", "Ted", "Jorge" (I made a Mexican once)
I name my characters after soft drinks. Dr. Pepper, Big Red, and Mugsy (for Mug Root Beer)
That's funny, anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
Iirc, the VTM Night Road """"game""" also has Rook as one of the default names for your protagonist
It also forces a backstory to your character that can not make any sense
LR gives the player the ability to deny they ever had anything to do with that though. Also it kind of becomes obvious that Ulysses was so desperate for answers, he started seeing patterns and connections that just weren’t there.
>LR gives the player the ability to deny they ever had anything to do with that thoug
Yeah, but it's really weak and feels like a guilty man's denial, like you're trying to convince yourself. You can never go >Yeah, that's impossible I wasn't even a courier at the time. >Nope, never seen this place in my life >I'm like 16, it's mathematically impossible for me to have done that
You can tell dreadlock man that he's full of shit, you actually find out that he's just coping hard about what happened and trying to find someone to blame things on to the point of hallucinating connections that don't exist.
Nah they really don't let you say flat out that you never did what he's talking about
Just one line saying buddy I never delivered anything in my life before that chip and Ulysses having a nervous breakdown would have saved the dlc for me
I could be misremembering, but I don't think you can, at least not take a firm stance. Which was very frustrating because every denial option was >I don't remember delivering a package >I never been here... I think >It wasn't me! It couldn't have been...
And similar bullshit, never a firm "Couldn't have been me butthole"
[...]
Worse: What your character did, as a mailman, was deliver a package. Ulysses, as another mailman, should understand that the job is just delivering things. You don't really know what's in the package.
I can get that. It's him desperate to male sense of your actions and mythologizing you and your deeds, he's having a years longnapophenic episode
It just irritates me that you have to partake in his bullshit. I honestly wouldn't even mind (much) if after you plainly stated it couldn't have been you he just ignored you and kept rambling and only at the end he would've listened to you and had a mental breakdown, but noooo, Provolone wanted his meta commentary of player actions affecting npcs
It also forces a backstory to your character that can not make any sense
[...] >LR gives the player the ability to deny they ever had anything to do with that thoug
Yeah, but it's really weak and feels like a guilty man's denial, like you're trying to convince yourself. You can never go >Yeah, that's impossible I wasn't even a courier at the time. >Nope, never seen this place in my life >I'm like 16, it's mathematically impossible for me to have done that
Worse: What your character did, as a mailman, was deliver a package. Ulysses, as another mailman, should understand that the job is just delivering things. You don't really know what's in the package.
>Ulysses, as another mailman, should understand that the job is just delivering things
Ulysses isnt just a regular mailman. Hes a frumentari of Caesar's legion, its a significant reason why he wants to launch nukes into the mojave
The worst thing about lonesome road is getting camera fricked into annoying conversations every 20 steps. It's so bad it feels like malicious compliance
People either shit on Dead Money or OWB because of how polar opposite they are. >You can't have everything (without cheating or cheese) paired with a serious narrative >You can have everything and are pushed to explore all you want in a place with a wacky-ass narrative that should not be taken seriously
Honest Hearts gets forgotten because of how bland it is and how super short the main quest is.
Lonesome Road gets a pass because it's the finale and provides story closure in its own way.
DM is clearly the only one they put any effort into, and even then it's pretty disappointing with the lack of enemy variety. But overall it's the best because it's the most concise and effective with what it's trying to achieve. A nice, linear self-contained story with cool characters.
HH could have been the best if it went for like 6-8 hours instead of 3. As it stands all of the interesting characters and factions aren't given enough time to shine and it's over before it feels like it's just getting started.
OWB is pretty fricking annoying and repetitive and even more half-baked than HH but thankfully it also only goes on for 3 hours. I still have not played Lonesome Road after all this time but I'll be getting to it with my current TTW playthrough.
Realistically, is ANY dlc for these open world games EVER good? Unless it came with the edition you bought, I don't understand why someone would willingly put in $20 to experience a fourth of the original game years later
>Gives you a vampire waifu in the first few minutes of it >It's Laura Bailey voice fricking your ears >Actually looks decent >Bethesda actually goes the extra mile and gives an interesting backstory, decent script, relatable motivation and goals >Despite the LDB being an amorphous blob, building rapport with her is not bad >She friendzones you
Like good fricking god. You even had dialogue for her rejecting marriage. Why do this? It's like Cass in NV, just put a dude there. Have the DLC companion be Obru Scarhand, an orc that Harkon killed the family or something, so he's after revenge
Serena made me wish Bethesda put actual effort into the other companions. Like, I get that she's basically the centerpiece of a whole DLC so I don't expect as much content for the other companions as she got, but frick me the Skyrim followers are so fricking boring and shallow. Its a shame, because there's some that could be really top tier if Bethesda didn't do the absolute bare fricking minimum in everything they do. Like I would have loved if Mjoll the Lioness had a whole questline were you help her take down the Thieve's Guild, the corrupt Jarl and Maven Blackbriar.
>Centerpiece of the DLC
I laugh at how every modder that ever tries to make a non-generic companion always tries to make another Serana and misses that one exact point im her role, making their mod a companion-centered OC wankfest with giant convoluted guestlines and shit, instead of making them... well, actually an interesting fricking character integrated into the game that may have a personal quest later on.
Fallout 4 companions were really good in that "Not generic NPC but not OC donutsteel" balance, surprisingly. They had memorable character and they weren't the focus of everything when they're in your party, even the "haha meme funny" ones like Strong or Deacon. Same case with New Vegas.
Wish skyrim modders would actually take a page out of these books for once instead of trying to make yet another reskinned Serana.
Don't take what I said as praise for Serena or how forced into the story she is, mind you. I just wish Bethesda had put half as much effort into the regular companions as they did to Serena.
As much as I didn't really like Fallout 4, the direction they went with companions in Fallout 4 has me slightly more hopeful for ES6.
Yeah, it really feels like a lot of Bethesda problems is that they either don't try or can't try.
Serana was fine. Endearing, understandable. Mjoll was a nice premise, but hits a wall after her initial dialogue. There's a chick living in the mountains that teaches you how to fire a bow that's pretty great too. She has a backstory, a distinct personality, gives you memorable stuff to do, but it's just a drop in a sea of bland forgettableness
Far Harbor was easily the best part about Fallout 4
Far Harbor makes you wonder how the same company also made Nuka World. Honestly, I'd cum in my pants if they'd made a full standalone Fallout game with Far Harbor's atmosphere. It feels like what the FO4 main game should have been. I don't dislike Fallout 4 but there's a lot of art and design choices that feel jarring and out of place in a Fallout game. Chief amongst those being the downtown area of Boston and it's high rises that look like the buildings in the backgrounds of Mega Man games.
>Far Harbor makes you wonder how the same company also made Nuka World.
Probably because the guy who wrote Nick Valentine's character was the lead designer for Far Harbor.
It's funny because Far Harbor is like a full idea of what could be East Coast fallout games if Bethesda wasn't moronic, I'd argue the Pitt too. >environment isn't a desert because it isn't the west coast >good use of the local culture with a nice maine feel even introducing regional soft drinks like NV did >actual new enemies that aren't just "something from previous games" >used the concept of the environment in the story with the children of atom
4 I think tried a few of this but man did they just not hit or get bogged down in constant waves of "we need super mutants and we NEED the brotherhood of steel".
>environment isn't a desert because it isn't the west coast
God how that annoyed me. Seriously download a forrest mod and the Mood Changes for the better.
It's funny because Far Harbor is like a full idea of what could be East Coast fallout games if Bethesda wasn't moronic, I'd argue the Pitt too. >environment isn't a desert because it isn't the west coast >good use of the local culture with a nice maine feel even introducing regional soft drinks like NV did >actual new enemies that aren't just "something from previous games" >used the concept of the environment in the story with the children of atom
4 I think tried a few of this but man did they just not hit or get bogged down in constant waves of "we need super mutants and we NEED the brotherhood of steel".
I think i see some kind of patter forming with how Bethesda do DLC for at least their single player fallouts, one DLC set in a spooky place, and another DLC involving raiders, and at least another that is extremely silly in premise.
Really? I thought its quests were boring as sin, what with them being "go to this dungeon half a continent away and get the thing", the one where you become a dungeon master to toy around some npcs was waaaay too on the nose and could have been executed better. The only thing I remember liking was Sheogorath, and I bet if I replay it I won't like him anywhere near as much all these years later considering I remember him having wacky non-sequitur humor.
Literally all obsidian had to do is release a new open world area like point lookout or the pit, which played to the games strenghts (faction politics, open ended quests)
Instead we got an interconnected mess of linear hit-or-miss (miss) experiences with a cherry on top that is giving the courier a backstory.
Imagine if they did a broken-steel type post-game dlc. Even if it's as linear as BS was, it'd be something. Or add a new area in deep legion territory because a ton of that stuff got axed.
It was just a ton of references to a million different sci fi shit. Like the brains were voiced by people famous for doing that shit. Rusty venture AND his dad? It was fine. My least favorite is actually honest hearts. Yes Josuha is one of the best vidya charecters but he carries the DLC so frickin hard the rest is so frickin bad. I didnt really like dead money much either. Actually the new vegas dlc was pretty mediocre.
>Old World Blues
Words words words, Reddit humor, le funny plot twist >Lonesome Road
Eh, not bad, not good >Honest Hearts
New Vegas's Blue Shift (in the sense that it's just more of the same) >Dead Money
Great if you can get into it, but too many moronic and annoying gameplay mechanics
recently replayed the lot
DM was good fun but I think that's because I was doing unarmed/explosives
HH was boring as frick. Fetch-quests and one final fight.
OWB was more fetch-quests. And doing the same area over and over again.
LR is a fricking corridor with no dialogue or skill checks.
>drops the original argument and moves to another one because he realized he was wrong
Double concession.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no bro this dialogue check at the end really affects the story and makes it worth slogging through a bunch of linked combat rooms in this RPG if you were smart buddy you'd have posted Ulysses' holotapes you can find to convince him rather than "hurr i click speech"
3 months ago
Anonymous
I posted evidence of both dialogue and skill check, proving you wrong. You can move the goalpost all you want, it won't change that fact.
Avellone is an alcoholic sexpest that never wrote anything good, and that's why Fallout 2 is pure dogshit filled with pop-culture references and nothing to say about anything.
I suppose you hate Fallout 1 too since the whole fricking thing is a giant reference to Mad Max then.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't, and Fallout 1 actually had a point to make and something say about the human condition, and about how conflict and war are an inescapable part of all life on earth.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It isn't,
You dishonest sack of shit. Did you think stuff like the leather jacket and the dog companions were just a coincidence?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't realize Mad Max invented leather jackets, deserts, shotguns and dogs. You a Palworld hater by any chance, genius?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Now this is just getting TOO gullible, holy shit. Drop the act, you're not fooling anyone. There's no way in hell a single soul on this planet who knows both Mad Max and Fallout doesn't notice the obvious references.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They're not Mad Max references, they're A Boy and his Dog-references 🙂
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oooh, a wise guy, huh? Look, I’m tracing you right now, pal. We’ll see how smart you feel with internal security all over your fricking ass. Dickhead!
3 months ago
Anonymous
I liked that book
Thought the ending sucked tho
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're a teen.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Leonard Boyarsky and Jason Anderson, two out of Fallout 1's 5-man core team, actually said Mad Max 2 is their favorite movie of all time and is the reason Leonard even suggested making a post apocalyptic game in the first place.
https://archive.is/WRa1
3 months ago
Anonymous
>le based and breadpilled isometric gaymes are the super smart ones because uhhhhh gimme street cred ok >posts a wojak
The people of the old world were insane. The big key is the think tank did not become the way they are, not fully. More than half of the manmade horrors were pre-war.
Retcon. The only insane ones of the old world were Vault-Tec, who made almost all of the vaults into social experiments nobody would ever see the outcome of and who started the nuclear missile launches. Why? Because they're saturday morning cartoon villains who are evil for the sake of being evil.
OWB scientists are just the embodiment of lolxdsorandumb
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Retcon. The only insane ones of the old world were Vault-Tec, who made almost all of the vaults into social experiments
That in and of itself is a retcon. >Why?
It's actually explained in 2 but based on this comment I'm going to assume you haven't played the originals thus not knowing the stuff in old world blues is not new when it comes to the series talking about pre-war institutions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>2 >the borderlands 2 of the series
epic
3 months ago
Anonymous
it was retconned even as F2 was baking in the oven. The very original idea behind the vault experiments was that the encalve was preparing a generation ship project for outer space colonization and pragmatically the vaults could not even save 1% of the pre war pop anyway. So they turned it into a stress test bed for possible scenarios generation ships would encounter
Long ride of lobotomization later it turned into experiments for the whacky lulz where everybody was named Gary
>sexpest
Only women and b***h boys use this word. Sexpest? Right, because all men should act like you, and remain celibate, always soft and submissive around women? Lmao you fricking homosexual. Let me guess, Avellone hit on your girlfriend in front of you, and she liked it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Bro i don't ANYONE would like to get hit on by Avellone
That man is BAD at flirting
Fallout 1's world is too small and the quests are mediocre. You don't get to care about any character other than maybe the Master and Harold if you read their logs. But the way you convince The Master of his mistake is fricking moronic ("did you check if your soldiers' dicks worked?"). The only actually interesting location is The Glow, solely because of its backstory, atmosphere and presentation. The Master is still a better antagonist than the president, I'll give you that.
Didn't you get it? When the robots screamed "PEENUS WEEENUS FINGIE >xxxxxD" for the millionth time and after watching the entirety of Rick & Morty, i truly understood the deep philosophical meaning behind that seemingly banal phrase. The robots have become so estranged from humanity, they no longer ever remember what fingers and toes are, and keep mistaking them for penises. Deep and philosophical, yet extremely humorous. Avellone is truly the greatest writer of our generation, nay, of all time. He wasn't just drunkenly scribbling random shit into a napkin about making references to 50's science fiction theater and peenus weenus. no sir.
>When the robots screamed "PEENUS WEEENUS FINGIE >xxxxxD" for the millionth time and after watching the entirety of Rick & Morty, i truly understood the deep philosophical meaning behind that seemingly banal phrase
Zoomers are so fricking moronic they dont realize OWB released TWO YEARS before rick and morty premiered
scientists are degenerate morons when left to their own devices will become akin to liches in a magical castle when the whole 'apocalypse' thing happens
nuclear fire opens their mountain and reveals their autism lair to the wasteland
flawed gods they have become, but ironically they have a chain to their work that is 'America'
Those scientists, for one reason or another, each seemed to remain loyal to Fallout's America in their electric-induced dementia and articulated such to Ulysses when pressed on how they could become such giant homosexuals that they couldn't remember who they were, but they remembered the values in the country they strove for
It was kind of pro-america in a way I wasn't expecting, it was pretty kino unless I missed the communism underlines
The people of the old world were insane. The big key is the think tank did not become the way they are, not fully. More than half of the manmade horrors were pre-war.
>More than half of the manmade horrors were pre-war.
The RoboBrain lore you get from the climax of the Automatron DLC is truly disturbing and one of the more fricked up bits of Fallout lore. A society with the veneer of wholesome 1950's Americana removing its own citizens' brains and shoving them into jars to become processors is just nightmarish.
It's supposed to be a prometheus thing, the scientists at big mountain made progress for the sake of progress without any care of what they were progressing towards. They were too ambitious with their pursuit of knowledge and played major role in fricking up the world
It’s in the name, people holding on to the past yet blindly rushing towards the future and an idea of “progress”. The Think Tank are made up of amoral manchildren that had to be figuratively lobotomized by one of their former colleagues just to stop them from wreaking havoc on the wider world.
Progress for the sake of progress is meaningless.
The Think Tank were a bunch of old world ghost funded by a country that no longer exists to fight in a war that ended again an enemy long dead
But they never realized that because they were too caught up in their own little worlds playing god.
They didn't seek to improve anything, help anybody or serve any purpose, all they did was satisfy their curiosities without rhyme or reason, leading them to loop into themselves >but that was moebius
Moebius just kept them going, realizing that they could break free of it and harm the outside
>Moebius just kept them going, realizing that they could break free of it and harm the outside
Honestly, Mobius was a really interesting and compelling character. He's basically a warden keeping inhuman monsters from breaking out and causing immense suffering.
Moebius was great. While always silly, he starts off as this obvious B-movie villain, like the Crimson Ghost or something. With death rays and robo minions. And when you finally reach him he's basically a senile grandfather asking if you want another mint.
You can only really speculate what he was, but from his room and his personality it's clear he was far more centered and put together than the rest of those maniacs in the think tank, and he likely operated as the voice of reason for a good while
Still is, in a way
The world had a chance to rebuild itself with the tech from Big MT, of course Avelonne got butthurt at this and made LR just to spite OWB trying to claim that the tunnelers were going to destroy everything and revert the world back to as if it just got nuked again.
The funniest thing about that moronic "hur da tunneller gon kill everything so nothing matters" shit is that when they first get introduce by killing that deathclaw the devs had to actually force the deathclaw to die because a lone deathclaw kept killing them.
The tunnellers really felt like a minor issue, all things considered. Mr. House's robot army, Caesar's Legion or NCR's army could probably just deal with them easily.
Its funny when you realize the "mysterious" and "enigmatic" characters who talk in a bunch of cryptic nonsense is actually just completely full of shit and has no idea what he's talking about.
tunneler threat should stem from the danger they pose to infrastructure, not power creeping Deathclaws - that shit was moronic.
Like, you already see the damage Tunnelers are capable of - if left unchecked - when you wander around that submerged city; the deathclaw scene was entirely unnecessary
The way i see it - It's not about tunnellers being strong, but getting rid of them
Tunnellers live deep underground and emerge practically wherever they can dig through, which means that with them in the region you need to keep every nook and cranny patrolled 24/7 and have them be constantly supplied with flashbangs and flamers, which is a logistic clusterfrick by itself, and they could all just emerge in some civillian farmland and spread from there. And even if you can turn the wasteland into a constantly policed state, you have the problem of tunnellers being able to breed, deep underground too, where no one will be able to get them, which essentially turns them into even bigger roaches than radroaches were. Add to that the fact that sooner or later the tunnel networks will weaken the soil buildings stand upon and you have an absolute nightmare scenario at hand. It's a fight humanity might hold off for a while, but pretty much is doomed to fail.
>Tunnellers live deep underground and emerge practically wherever they can dig through, which means that with them in the region you need to keep every nook and cranny patrolled 24/7
Just dig a big hole
And shine a giant flashlight at it
Hell just send some mr. Handy into the hole armed with flashlights.
You all really overestimate how dangerous a threat like tunnelers is when your biggest infrastructure projects are maybe a few stories high
Tunnelers are just gay regardless
They've been at the Divide for what? 100 years? More? Couldn't even kill off the marked men or stop deathclaws from nesting in their natural habitat, they're chumps
A single nest of cazador is a much bigger problem for infrastructure because bugs, unlike lizard/human hybrids procreate real fast without the need of much food
3 months ago
Anonymous
>100 years
More like not more than a decade or two.
The divide was the usual NCR road used before the big Navarro boom, and the tunnellers were asleep until it all went nuclear.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>the tunnellers were asleep
What? Asleep how? How did they breed asleep? Or eat?
People who troll about NV like to call it a Reddit game, but honestly this DLC is the only part of the NV experience that feels "Reddit" to me. >Le wacky SCIENCE® theme! >oooOOOWWOWWW it even has an "evil" scientist antagonist, just like my favorite capeshit comics! >hahahah the jokes feel like I'm watching my very own Futurama episode! >a DOG GUN?!?! Where's the upvote button?!
Only good part of the DLC is getting more backstory on Elijah and Christine (and getting Christine's gun).
Based.
How is it that the robot/A.I companions in every Fallout game are the best companions? >Curie >Ada >Stealth Suit MKII >ED-E >Sergeant RL-3 >Codworth
The fleshies can't even compete.
Huh. I just realized that the reason that's the case is because when people make characters for their stories, these characters typically being human or at least human-like in intelligence, the idea is to make them feel like real people with grounded personalities. But with robots or similar characters, you don't really have to worry about that because people understand they aren't real people. So you can focus entirely on making robots cool, cute and/or likable instead of realistic. Robots don't have the typical personality flaws that a living person would be expected to have.
Also since their personalities are mostly manufactured, they don't need a backstory, but what makes them change can also be interesting
Like Codsworth, who was a very recent addition to the SS' family, but his programmed loyalty made him stay around their house as a coping mechanism, and when he finally meets the SS again, he has a strangely human breakdown and tought process compared to most other robots in the franchise.
3 months ago
Anonymous
how the flying frick did they have a robot as advanced as codsworth pre-war?
3 months ago
Anonymous
RobCo is fricking bullshit
3 months ago
Anonymous
Do you mean the Think Tank? They’re in a giant R&D facility.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, Codsworth, an impossible smart Mister Handy in Fallout 4 given the time of his existence.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He’s a companion so Bethesda probably thought making him more emotive would help.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He's seemingly the newest possible model, since he was bought really recently before the bombs dropped
3 months ago
Anonymous
fallout was a different, more advanced timeline than ours. They embraced nuclear energy instead of teaching society to fear it
3 months ago
Anonymous
He's seemingly the newest possible model, since he was bought really recently before the bombs dropped
anons, the point is that mister handies weren't that smart even in other fallouts AFTER the war, and now fo4 is telling us they were always smart BEFORE the war. don't try to reason it considering this same game also says vaultec or the us army some fricking how also had vertibirds pre war.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Fallout 76 actually had to create its own vertibird origin lore just to fix that plothole.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>asks for a reason >gets reasons >NO DON'T REASON IT
3 months ago
Anonymous
actually it's >point out inconsistency >get theories trying to explain it >explain how they don't make sense by looking at the other entries
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>get theories trying to explain it
Yes that's called reasoning.
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes and I pointed out how they don't make sense, try to keep up.
Every other DLC adds something even if it's flavor or just a neat open area to explore with a bunch of cool new shit to frick around with. Honest Hearts on it's own is just boring, there's literally two interesting things in that DLC and they're Randall Clark and Joshua Graham but even they can't carry that area hard enough.
HH was 100% visual storytelling and was the closest in spirit to exploring the early areas of fallout 1 and 2 that we've seen in the 3d era. You must just have shit taste anon.
>sliced off area that looks like it should've been somewhere in the base game >half the questline is fetch quests and half of them don't even have proper names, just shit like "quest: do this" >literally two characters worth a damn and one of them's dead >shit enemies and shit 'final boss', entire last mission sucks ass outside of exactly one sneering imperialist option >story is moronic and trying to offer a moral choice where one choice is so much better than the other and has a multitude more options that even in the """"good"""" pacifist ending the savior man thinks "maybe I was wrong this sucks"
there is literally nothing HH does that is better than any other DLC aside from based burnt mormon man, Legion should've had more content and he should've been a big part of it
>>half the questline is fetch quests and half of them don't even have proper names, just shit like "quest: do this
But enough about OWB (except owb is probably closer to 90%)
off area that looks like it should've been somewhere in the base game
Black person what ? It doesn't look anything like the Mojave. The different environment is nest break and surprising respite >>half the questline is fetch quests and half of them don't even have proper names, just shit like "quest: do this"
That's OWB too
two characters worth a damn and one of them's dead
Fair enough >>shit enemies and shit 'final boss', entire last mission sucks ass outside of exactly one sneering imperialist option
I like killing the white legs, I don't understand the problem
is moronic and trying to offer a moral choice where one choice is so much better than the other and has a multitude more options that even in the """"good"""" pacifist ending the savior man thinks "maybe I was wrong this sucks"
That's fair, but the overall idea of this being Joshua's story and you being there for the ride is something I like
Honest Hearts isn't bad at all. The only part of the DLC that's cringe is the "epic" final battle where you fight through the canyon. That bit really shows that even 12 years ago that engine was showing its limitations.
HH was 100% visual storytelling and was the closest in spirit to exploring the early areas of fallout 1 and 2 that we've seen in the 3d era. You must just have shit taste anon.
All dlc for new vegas are good because they're different from each other and main game
Meanwhile bethesda made "lol scary island" three times and "lol vampires" twice
In only five games
It's impressive how fricking bad all of the DLC in New Vegas and Fallout 3 is. Seriously every single one is a chore. Fallout 4 DLC was ok, but frick Dead Money, frick Mothership Zeta, and frick Lonesome Road forever.
>yes here are these 5 BIG AREAS FAR AWAY FROM EACHOTHER that you have to clear up and have to make pseudo settlements
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
The ultimate sin of Nuka World imo was making you scour that boring piece of shit map to find StarCores to get the X-01 power armor. Aside from that, the map design of the various areas of the park are so, SO bad. Just convoluted and nonsensical mazes that don't feel organic in the slightest. Also, this might be an autistic gripe, but not allowing the player to create a mini-settlement in the tree house in Safari Adventure is unforgiveable.
>yes here are these 5 BIG AREAS FAR AWAY FROM EACHOTHER that you have to clear up and have to make pseudo settlements
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>ADHD cumbrains
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The ultimate sin of Nuka World imo was making you scour that boring piece of shit map to find StarCores to get the X-01 power armor. Aside from that, the map design of the various areas of the park are so, SO bad. Just convoluted and nonsensical mazes that don't feel organic in the slightest. Also, this might be an autistic gripe, but not allowing the player to create a mini-settlement in the tree house in Safari Adventure is unforgiveable.
>t. never went to a theme park
The only flaw of Nuka World was making the majority of the rides and attractions unrideable for the endgame. You should entirely be able to ride every ride you can turn on.
>if you don't like boring, overly long fetch quests for the sake of one-dimensional characters you have ADHD
I'm surprised it's biologically possible for a human without a mental illness to enjoy Nuka World.
There's no gratification whatsoever in Nuka World though? There's nothing to care for because the characters are the most forgettable ones in the game, and that's saying a LOT. Not a fan of reskinned enemies or the game forcing you to kill dozens of them to progress either.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>adhd riddled zoomoid believes there's no story or character because there weren't enough wacky cutscenes with constant angle changes and special effects on screen to keep his attention
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's none of that in any other Fallout game either though?
Nuka World is the only Fallout 4 DLC I haven't played. I do own it, but just can never bother playing for long enough to get to the recommended level for it.
It's pretty trash, especially if you're trying to play a good guy character. They give you zero options to just take down all the piece of shit clans in a narrative way and just go "You have to pick one to join, chud".
Yeah, that's what I had heard about it. I really don't think I'd be at all interested in it. I'll probably try it at some point just to see what it's like, but at this point not expecting much.
Him and Danse were the only good characters in the base game. I didn't recruit Cait though, and I don't know if Ganker likes her for any reason other than their penises.
Companions are propably the best in the series(I don't really count Joshua because you can't go out of dlc with him) Cait is nice. Ada is very very Usefull(and you can turn her into a monster murderbot) Hanwiener and Vallentine are Great.
It's amazing how they backslided so hard with starfield on that front. I feel like the only reason companions were good in 4 is because they slipped under the top brasses radar
Is that ever explained or addressed in the game? >Man, my wife dying and losing my son was so traumatizing >If only I could impregnate someone that looked like her to make the pain go away
>third person dialog camera system >ripped out and thrown away after a single game because autistic manchildren threw a tantrum over having a voiced protagonist
Just another reason autistic people need to be euthanized.
>autistic manchildren threw a tantrum over having a voiced protagonist
im confident people would have been more receptive to the voiced protagonist if there were more than four dialogue options for every choice. 'Yes, No, Yes (Sarcastic), and Tell Me More' is a meme for a reason
It's a meme from people who don't play games, yes. Just like 99% of starfield memes here are background citizens from the first city taken from a video.
Voice protagonist's for role playing games with customizable main characters is always a moronic idea. The only game where it isn't insufferable was Mass Effect, and that's because most people just went with default Sheploo anyway.
That's why it works just fine when people like Bioware do it, right? It works fine in every game it's in, but autists want to hear their voices when they're playing as shitty self-inserts because they don't have the imagination required to make anything original.
>making shit up >" but autists want to hear their voices when they're playing as shitty self-inserts because they don't have the imagination required to make anything original."
Why would you want a customizable protagonist if not to make a shitty self insert
Stop self inserting homosexual
You're fricking moronic and probably autistic yourself with how hard you're projecting and how obsessed you are with defending something so pointless. The point of role playing games is ROLE PLAYING. Making the main character have a voice gets in the way of that. Is that really so hard to understand?
Custom player characters in RPG's should always be silent protagionists.
>p-projecting
Maybe stop being a fricking b***h. >abloo bloo bloo I can't roleplay if I can't do my shittiest impression of a real voice actor and have to hear someone who isn't a nasally little homosexual instead
Come back when you're of legal age to be here.
But it sucked? There's no company willing to put the massive effort in time and money to hire dozens of VAs to voiced thousands of lines to properly give a voiced protagonist the same depth of customization you can a voiceless one
Maybe with AI or Troy Baker's NFTs this will change
>but it sucked, shazam said so
male V voice only works for streetkid, and female V voice only works for corpo. Otherwise, it just doesn't sound right. And what if you want to make an older or younger character? What if your character is of a different race, because they have different voices? What if you want your character to sound nice or mean, or somewhere in between? That's the point, b***h
Both voices work for all characters. The universe has its slang and dialect a constant for all runs of life. >but what about scenarios that don't exist in games like age >but what about [things that already happen with dialog choices] >but what abou-ACK!
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't who shazam is, but it sounds like a stripper's name, you shouldn't listen to their opinion on games
I'm saying it sucks, and since you're a tasteless homosexual and I'm not, your should listen to me
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't who shazam is
nta, but lol
>Tunnellers live deep underground and emerge practically wherever they can dig through, which means that with them in the region you need to keep every nook and cranny patrolled 24/7
Just dig a big hole
And shine a giant flashlight at it
Hell just send some mr. Handy into the hole armed with flashlights.
You all really overestimate how dangerous a threat like tunnelers is when your biggest infrastructure projects are maybe a few stories high
tunnelers are really funny. they're only these evil awful unkillable creatures if...you live in a cave. people in-universe shit their pants over the frickers because they don't know how to deal with them / are fricking incompetent.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's just Ulysses that's scared of them, the Marked Men seem to barely give a frick and no other npc exists in the DLC
Ulysses is in a constant mental breakdown, maybe he just needs them to be a world ending threat to cope
3 months ago
Anonymous
you are a voice actor, aren't you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
He's just a moronic shitposter who doesn't actually care about voiced protagonists and wants to shit up the thread by being intentionally argumentative about something random. Look at how ever post he makes has the world "autism" in it. He obviously don't believe anything he's posting and just wants to piss people off by spouting moronic opinions.
Ignore and hide his posts.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He's just a moronic shitposter who doesn't actually care about voiced protagonists and wants to shit up the thread by being intentionally argumentative about something random. Look at how ever post he makes has the world "autism" in it. He obviously doesn't believe anything he's posting and just wants to piss people off by spouting moronic opinions.
Ignore and hide his posts.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you disagree with things >therefore you're [boogeyman group x]
I'm tired of this rerun.
bloo bloo I can't roleplay if I can't do my shittiest impression of a real voice actor and have to hear someone who isn't a nasally little homosexual instead
Hold on. Do you actually think people say dialogue options out loud when they play RPG's? Do you do that? Holy shit, that is advanced autism. There's no saving you.
>deliberately being moronic so as to avoid addressing the actual argument
3 months ago
Anonymous
bloo bloo I can't roleplay if I can't do my shittiest impression of a real voice actor and have to hear someone who isn't a nasally little homosexual instead
Hold on. Do you actually think people say dialogue options out loud when they play RPG's? Do you do that? Holy shit, that is advanced autism. There's no saving you.
The most moronic part of the four dialogs is that there are always four dialogs. Nobody gave their dialog writers some control in case they couldn't give four meaningful options, nor could they exceed four. Just a perfect example of bethesda cargo cult design. Because there are four face buttons on controllers you see
Voice protagonist's for role playing games with customizable main characters is always a moronic idea. The only game where it isn't insufferable was Mass Effect, and that's because most people just went with default Sheploo anyway.
>autistic manchildren threw a tantrum over having a voiced protagonist
im confident people would have been more receptive to the voiced protagonist if there were more than four dialogue options for every choice. 'Yes, No, Yes (Sarcastic), and Tell Me More' is a meme for a reason
Voice protagonist's for role playing games with customizable main characters is always a moronic idea. The only game where it isn't insufferable was Mass Effect, and that's because most people just went with default Sheploo anyway.
It's extremely wasteful and inefficient to have multiple voiced characters when there are dialogue options. Imagine hiring 16 people to read every line in the whole game.
With AI though, it will be easy, and profitable, to have many different voices for the character.
>wasteful
Except it isn't and you're just making excuses. Nobody is doing 16 alternate voices, just one male and one female. Starfield in particular gives your character a voice in the ending, even if male Dusty was supposed to be Elias Toufexis, so what's the point of making him mute?
>Nobody is doing 16 alternate voices, just one male and one female
Yeah, because it's too expensive to have so many voices. Which is why so many people have issues with voiced player characters, because the voice just doesn't fit if they make non-default characters.
No, because that's a scenario you invented in your head to justify not having voiced protagonists. No more than 2 voices are ever needed, and Cyberpunk 2077's massive amounts of dialog proves well enough that there's no need to skip out on that.
>making shit up >" but autists want to hear their voices when they're playing as shitty self-inserts because they don't have the imagination required to make anything original."
Why would you want a customizable protagonist if not to make a shitty self insert
Stop self inserting homosexual
Go back.
3 months ago
Anonymous
male V voice only works for streetkid, and female V voice only works for corpo. Otherwise, it just doesn't sound right. And what if you want to make an older or younger character? What if your character is of a different race, because they have different voices? What if you want your character to sound nice or mean, or somewhere in between? That's the point, b***h
3 months ago
Anonymous
This. Like how Baldur's Gate 3 everything character you play sounds like a fricking British person, regardless of race or back round.
But it sucked? There's no company willing to put the massive effort in time and money to hire dozens of VAs to voiced thousands of lines to properly give a voiced protagonist the same depth of customization you can a voiceless one
Maybe with AI or Troy Baker's NFTs this will change
>this site hated BBT years prior but somehow loved OWB even though it's the same brand of humour
So what you're saying is that you saw some threads where the kind of person that OWB was aimed at said they liked it and formed your opinion of Ganker around that.
I killed the Big MTN brains for the simple reason that they bothered to perform medical malpractice on innocent people, irreversibly ruining their lives and turning them into violent morons, yet did so in the most cowardly way possible. Then they continued to be cowards who hid in their pristine tower until I reintroduced them to conventional warfare. There is nothing worse than evil people who are also cowards.
Mobius was allowed to live because he's not really a danger to anyone except me. The scorpions don't actually attack lobotomites or other anything that isn't me, for some raisin.
Not even the writers and causality itself agrees with Daniel since he doesn't feel good in his own ending. The true choice is how you help Graham deal with his demons in the end.
>his armor
Nothing about that armor makes any frickin sense
It's called "desert ranger combat armor" even though no desert ranger ever wore it. It was the service armor of a USMC jarhead, even though he should probably be using combat armor, and then Randall Clark just got it somehow
But why not call it Survivalist Armor or something?
Also, it's funny how the uber iconic Ranger armor was inspired by Tycho's brief description when he was just supposed to be wearing regular leather armor and carrying a normal gas mask just in case, it wasn't a uniform.
The new backstory for it is also odd. It's either LAPD riot armor, in which case one has to wonder how the frick LA police is getting such phenomenal armor that's better than what the Army has; or/and USMC armor, which makes more sense since the Marines are supposed to be a quick and mobile force doing recon, but in either option you have to wonder how the frick did the Desert Rangers, which hail from Nevada and Arizona got a hold of the armor
It makes more sense for it to be NCR Rangers armor since the Boneyard (LA) and the The Hub (Barstow, CA, where the USMC has it's main supply and maintenance base)
The Ranger Armor, Riot Armor, and Desert Armor are all manufactured by the same company. It's only slightly superior to the US Combat Armor, which would be standard issue, with DT 22 instead of the Combat Armors DT 18. The NCR Ranger Armor is basically just recreations of this old armor using the equipment looted from that companies factory presumably or just refurbished versions of the old armor. It's also worth noting that pre-War law enforcement put in some fricking work in the Fallout universe. Motherfrickers were constantly fighting armed rioters and even fricking mutants.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It's also worth noting that pre-War law enforcement put in some fricking work in the Fallout universe. Motherfrickers were constantly fighting armed rioters and even fricking mutants.
Yeah annexing the leafs would do that to you. Meese patrols, milk bag over the head at 3pm followed by maple boarding with gallons of syrup.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Were there even mutants before the war? Plus, it's still weird that the Desert Rangers have it when all places that would make it/store it are in Cali
Also, I think for better balance, Combat Armor should've been heavier with AG penalties and Ranger Armor no penalties and lighter
3 months ago
Anonymous
Considering how extensive the coverage of the FEV serum was at the beginning you can assume that some of the proto versions of the mutants would start popping up across the country. Coincide with the rat population exploding since most of cat population starting to drop off around this time.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I believe (not certain) that some FEV specimen broke containment and spread a massive FEV plague as a result. The first Ghouls were basically the result of dormant FEV people getting irradiated to shit in the Great War. The Desert Rangers are (kind of sort of) a nod to the Desert Rangers in the Wasteland series. The Rangers are basically just a part of the NCR military with loads of independence by the events of FNV, so they get all the cool shit. Also yeah Combat Armor should have been the premier Medium Armor and Ranger Armor should have been the Light Armor.
Yeah, some of the humor in OWB was pretty Reddit, but I still liked the goofy 50s pulp parody aesthetic they went for in the DLC. People forget that Fallout can be silly from time to time.
People get too strung up on the goofiness of it. I like how it gets meta in places, like how Dala makes an offhand comment about how NPCs eventually say the same things over and over again. Its just the nature of how RPGs are made
B movies are only fun if they aren't too on the nose regarding self deprecation and pointing fingers at cliches, they have to be honest, OWB is the complete opposite of that. it never stops pulling its own finger and laughing at its own jokes.
It’s not reddit, the people that call it that are underaged tourist that saw penis fingers screenshots of it on r/fallout memes and that’s all they know. So when they came here they of course had to fit in and that means created exaggerated personas that despise anything that could be associated with reddit. So that means anything with lighthearted or whacky humor is now reddit and they’ll go on massive tirades and scream about how reddit it is and how everyone that likes it is reddit. All for the sake of trying to make it seem like they don’t go there and do all the shit they say they hate on a daily basis.
I like the weapons, Stealth Suit MK2, the player home and the sapient appliance. I like the idea of my 10 INT scientist Courier using the Big MT as his personal lab after the battle for Hoover Dam. I enjoyed exploring all the crazy areas. The cybernetic perks are based.
Everything else about it is pretty shit.
the perks are definitely useful, I'll give you that and the home it gives you is alright. Unfortunately the home is located there so I cleared it out before finishing the dlc because I knew there was no chance I'd ever go back
NV started fantastically with Honest Hearts, is absolute peak video games with Dead Money, and the last two were suddenly absolute trash. Ulysses will forever be a stain on the game.
>overpowered
I like falling into a deep hole of nativism where my character will start to wear dead horse armor and weapons and wonder if he even should go back to the mojave or just forever live and protect zion like a benevolent spirit, much like Randall Clark
Dead Money was, and is, the best NV DLC. Whiny homosexuals hated it because for 15 minutes their extremely overpowered character had to actually struggle again.
You starting from scratch isn't the issue, it's the fact that enemies are annoying and have infinite perception because of a bug, so Subsistence mode this is not. As well as the alarm shit that gets progressively more tedious.
Has there ever been a mod for new vegas that makes grenades not bounce like like a tennis ball, defusing the grenade traps in dead money gives you buckets of them and they be good for blind destruction of radios if they weren't unusable because of the physics
given Graham's dialogue, it probably would have just angered him and he'd demand your head. A missed opportunity regardless, it would have been pretty funny to have it initiate combat
Nah, I think he calls him Caesar almost all the time, and the one time he calls him Edward, he corrects himself
I guess it makes more sense. Joshua is trying to distance himself from those events and from who he was. Caesar is Caesar because he embraced the larp, so Graham calls him that because he wants to distance Edward's actions as Caesar from the brilliant young Follower he knew
OWB lost any good will it might've had with me when it wasted like 30mins worth of ending slides on the wacky appliances. Unskippable btw. Entire factions have shorter slides in the basegame.
It's Chris Provolone's attempt a humor. Please understand, he can be a little...special, when it comes to that style of writing. Just see the sort of absolute bullshit he pulled with some of the trap dialogue choices in New Reno.
I really like the think tank members, they're overall better a relying the overall themes and tones of the DLC's message and have some good character moments, handing Gabe's Bowl back to Borus feels really memorable as you realize the personality trapped in the endless recursion cycle.
>This sensation is unpleasant, I don't care for it. I don't care for this place either. And... I feel... as if we've forgotten something..
Pure kino.
>Slaughter shit tons of tribals left and right >"Umm...ackshually, Joshua can you like...not kill General Gobbledyasiatic?" >You're right, Courier. I see the error of my ways now. I'm a good boy now. *farts and cums*
This is why HH is pretty shit.
The point was if you teach the tribals how to fight a proper total war, you have figuratively opened up Pandora's Box. It puts them on the path to a higher level of civilization, but they will achieve that path through violence and the annihilation of their enemies who stand in the way of the resources necessary to fuel that growth, much like Caesar's Legion or the NCR. Even though I disagree with Daniel, the very first lines of dialogue in the Fallout franchise (war never changes blah blah blah we kill each other for cool shit) are a testament to his position. So long as humanity has the capacity for violence against their fellow man, they will engage in it endlessly, leading to their own demise. Maybe if we never had that capacity in the first place, we could have a more ideal world. For Daniel, it is worth evacuating Zion to protect that, of course there are issues with this mindset, but the game doesn't even give the opportunity to really consider it because >lol don't kill Gobbledeasiatic. Ogey I guess we only kill bad people now and would never harm good people because idk mercy or something.
is a solution to the problems in Zion.
>Slaughter shit tons of faceless henchmen left and right >decide at the last moment to give mercy to the main bad guy because revenge is heckin bad or something
I hate that this moronic shitty trope is still around.
The problem is that most games with these choices are violent games, a good guy peacemaker option robbing the player of a large combat segment is seen as 'unfair'. It would be like if you could tell the Legate he cant est his weast BEFORE the dam fight.
>Slaughter shit tons of faceless henchmen left and right >decide at the last moment to give mercy to the main bad guy because revenge is heckin bad or something
I hate that this moronic shitty trope is still around.
You guys are missing the idea. It's not about how killing Gobledyasiatic is a bad thing, it's about showing Joshua that his approach to life being fire and brimstone isn't healthy, not to him as a guy that wants redemption from his violent past and to him as a person that cares about his soul.
Now, a lot of it is lost due to engine limitations, but the idea when attacking the White Legs is that Graham is killing fricking everyone, man, woman, child, sick, old, sleeping. They're a raider tribe, everyone that can raids together and the ones that can't stay behind at camp
You're not trying to convince him about the sanctity of life, you're trying to get him to realize there's more to him than violence and death
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The point is that you can clearly see Joshua is going full scorched earth and acting like killing people who already lost is somehow God's will.
It's why the White Legs still end up getting their asses kicked after you let them go, because it isn't about them, it's about Joshua.
oh no you're killing evil people how bad
We should use the power of friendship to reform them instead, right?
>Slaughter shit tons of faceless henchmen left and right >decide at the last moment to give mercy to the main bad guy because revenge is heckin bad or something
I hate that this moronic shitty trope is still around.
The point is that you can clearly see Joshua is going full scorched earth and acting like killing people who already lost is somehow God's will.
It's why the White Legs still end up getting their asses kicked after you let them go, because it isn't about them, it's about Joshua.
Imagine installing an automatic fleshlight into her so she can massage your wiener while you're getting headshots on Super Mutant from half a mile away. >Will you love me if I help you cum?
IMAGINE IT
Kind unrelated but I wish the nuka world dlc actually let you do things in the parks once you concurred them. It really feels like the dlc stops right before it gets interesting
tunneler threat should stem from the danger they pose to infrastructure, not power creeping Deathclaws - that shit was moronic.
Like, you already see the damage Tunnelers are capable of - if left unchecked - when you wander around that submerged city; the deathclaw scene was entirely unnecessary
Yeah. I think people didn't seem to get the actual danger Tunnelers posed. They're like termites or bedbugs. Just a few of them, and they start multiplying like crazy, if you don't kill them all, they come back. Even if you can keep them in check militarily, they are still destroying your infrastructure. They are like 40k orks.
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The way i see it - It's not about tunnellers being strong, but getting rid of them
Tunnellers live deep underground and emerge practically wherever they can dig through, which means that with them in the region you need to keep every nook and cranny patrolled 24/7 and have them be constantly supplied with flashbangs and flamers, which is a logistic clusterfrick by itself, and they could all just emerge in some civillian farmland and spread from there. And even if you can turn the wasteland into a constantly policed state, you have the problem of tunnellers being able to breed, deep underground too, where no one will be able to get them, which essentially turns them into even bigger roaches than radroaches were. Add to that the fact that sooner or later the tunnel networks will weaken the soil buildings stand upon and you have an absolute nightmare scenario at hand. It's a fight humanity might hold off for a while, but pretty much is doomed to fail.
tunnelers are locusts of fallout their danger is 100% not strength but the rate of propagation and reproduction and invasiveness
Honestly a threat bond to wipe out civilization once again would make more sense if it was like an army of super deathclaws or a Caculator's army 2.0 that cannot be stopped this time around.
This DLC is so HARD! I can't play it. The respawn is so annoying. I run out of ammo quick. The enemies are weak with skills I don't have.
Absolutely kills the exploration and vibe for me. I don't know what to do. I want to enjoy it.
This DLC doesn't allow me to play the way I want it and I think that is wrong, tbh.
Oh so its just from a quest mod, I thought maybe it was something that expands the idea of playing as a low INT Courier. Do you have to play as a low INT Courier? I usually play as an average or high INT Courier so it wouldn't make sense to have my character suddenly speak talking like that.
>I thought maybe it was something that expands the idea of playing as a low INT Courier
I think there was a mod that did that. It rewrote the dialogue so that you always sounded stupid, kinda like that Skyrim mod that rewrote the options for Khajiit players to better fit their speech patterns
I think it's abandoned tho
And, tbf, even in the old games it was basically a very limited hard mode, since it excluded you from most quests
NV's is just some funny options here and there
What do you guys think happened to Vault 19? Everyone there was conditioned to be a schizo, yet there's no signs of mass slaughters or infighting.
Everyone is just... gone.
It was a screenshot from my old toaster, even on my current PC I don't really use too many graphics mods or any ENB I don't really need them the game looks fine to me as it is.
>chronic masturbator in need of some love surrounded by repressed nerds
Dr 8 was in the same boat but Dala wasn't a big fan of audioerotic asphyxiation.
It's worse than that
Dala has the teddies positioned as spectators in a catwalk full or mirrors (that she later broke). Her problem is that she was a frumpy asian nerd that desperately wanted to be a sexy bombshell men everywhere stop to gawk at
>that is the reason for why everyone ignored her because she was chinese
It would make sense since Dr Klein was a hardcore oldworld nationalist and Dr Borous hated the reds with a burning passion. No wonder she got the cold shoulder.
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>Nerds not having an asian girl fetish
Most unrealistic part of OWB tbqh
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>that is the reason for why everyone ignored her because she was chinese
It would make sense since Dr Klein was a hardcore oldworld nationalist and Dr Borous hated the reds with a burning passion. No wonder she got the cold shoulder.
Surprised she wasn't in a concentration camp or smth
When I originally played morrowind I had a million complaints and nitpicks but as the years went by and it was obvious morrowind was a high water mark I forgave all that shit and just liked what was good about it
But with new vegas it has never gone away, I still get annoyed at the things they fricked up more than I appreciate it
Its the funny DLC showing how far technology progressed and how moronic civilization got before it got blown up. It's a good DLC. It makes you feel lonely too and eager to get back to the wasteland. I like that.
Why would Bethesda get their shit together for the DLC? Remember these are the morons that figured an army dressed in sporting goods equipment armed with spears was more than a match for an army equiped with fully automatic weapons.
If you haven't learned how moronic Bethesda writing is by now you never will.
I wish you could make a better version of the holorifle when you come back to the Mojave, like a normal pistol grip semiauto. The one in dm is just a jury rig Elijah made from a broken grenade launcher in a survival situation
>just fire dozens of rounds with the slow reload hoping you'll get one shot that does crit damage among all the shots that do 0 >just forget that .357 mag still gets filtered by DT even with the meme rounds >just forget that the game is balanced around ignoring over half the weapons thanks to the moronic fricking DT system
>moronic fricking DT system
You mean the amazing DT system
It's cool when armor actually works like armor, instead of a dampening field
Firing small rounds on armored plate isn't gonna penetrate no matter how many rounds you fire
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>walking through the Fiend territory in APA with all the DT perks and cybernetic upgrades >hailstones on concrete.wav
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>autistic pacifist build, no killing humans, but also never use speech checks unless necessary >download mod to actually make beanbags worth a damn >pick up APA and every single DT increasing perk >run around knocking people out with a cattle prod and beanbag rounds while shrugging off anything short of a mini-nuke
>dozens of rounds
Black person, if your plan is to get Lucky, then you are going for a crit build. You can easily get your crit rate up to like 15% and Lucky's crit rate multiplier is 2.5. You should be scoring a crit at least once every single reload, sometimes twice. On top of that, you will often be scoring a free crit from stealth. My nig, you can find videos of people clearing Quarry Junction with Lucky RIGHT NOW. And please eat a dick while you are at it, DT/DR is the GOAT
They actually implemented a dt like system in fallout 4. It has softer falloff than pure damage - DT but it's ultimately the same big damage penetrates smol damage bounces thing. But people are too stupid to notice
>you can actually get enough lockpicking skill to get it
That's it's one big problem
You can get the very similar That Gun without much effort
Lucky is inexplicably locked in a high level lock in early game dungeon
>bump lockpicking up at the beginning >use the magazine from the Goodsprings schoolhouse to supplement the skill further >grab Lucky from the safe >dingle dangle your way to New Vegas
Yeah it's great fun. With there were .44 single action revolvers in NV though. Or maybe that the normal .44s wouldn't suck.
>is useless by the time you can actually get enough lockpicking skill to get it thanks to the DT system
It's a pistol, it's meant to be a secondary weapon, and a great secondary weapon it is. It's the single most accurate firearm handgun with the handloaded rounds.
I was talking about his perk. 75% less degradation makes it much more bearable to use
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Oh right, I never use him so I completely forgot about that. Still it's moronic he charges full price though.
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The man has to eat tbh. Can't be doing this level of work for free. Hes a expert in his field not a janny.
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>The man has to eat tbh.
Should've hid in a fridge when the bombs fell, wouldn't have had to worry about anything
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Vendor repair is broken in FNV, to the point where Repair is an obligatory skill
It costs like 5 times the price of the thing, Its insane
I have a mod that reduces it to a normal, 1x price
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Its funny because they made the degradation system less ridiculous than fallout 3 but fricked it up anyway with repair costs being outrageous.
>The man has to eat tbh.
Should've hid in a fridge when the bombs fell, wouldn't have had to worry about anything
This. Raul just needs a fridge.
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>fricked it up anyway with repair costs being outrageous.
Also a carry over from F3 iirc. I literally never play NV without jury rigging.
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It wasn't as bad because the vendors kept the caps so you could sell the shit to get the money back whereas in new vegas the repairmen didn't sell anything so the only option was pick pocketing & in the case of raul the money disappeared entirely so that wasn't even an option with him.
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>repair costs being outageous
you didnt make it out with the gold did you?
Much better than Lonesome Road, that is the dogshit DLC. The one thing that drags OWB down is the fact that enemies are infinitely respawning bullet sponges on the overworld.
As much as I hate to say it, FNV desperately needed a challenging area that always scales with the player. You become a walking god by like level 15, and that's without trying.
>enemies are infinitely respawning bullet sponges on the overworld.
This is why I never beat it, I sat through the eternity of dialog & did the first quest & then loaded a save. To this day I've only ever beat honest hearts & that’s because I accidentally killed the friendly tribal right at the start & got to skip all the tedium of actually playing it.
Will you pick: >a very useful and powerful perk for any melee build, especially ones with a high luck stat to boot
Or >a fricking companion perk that doesn't even work with her tagged weapon type
Well?
It's the best one.
This.
If you're a gameplaychad OWB is the best.
Yep. Contrarianism against popular humor doesn't change that. Yes, it has heckin wacky scientists like Dr. Venture, that makes it fun.
How is it the best one? It's just boring fetch quests and bad writing. The Stealth Suit level shit made me want to uninstall.
based pulp chad
cringe redditor numale
The only reason you stop reading fairy tales as an adult is because you realize previous adults lied to you about the world. So in your rage, you dump the fairy tales. Only to discover they are nice and beautiful. But then you're too old and fragile to care about the truth so you lie to the new generation as well. Fricking humans. Disgusting.
using the intercom system to talk about high school bullies has to be one of the funniest things ive seen in a fallout game. RICHIE LIKES BALLS
>old reddit blues
lel benis fingers i heckin love science
>playing fallout newreddit
>playing redditout
>playing redditogames
>having redditorial train of thought
>posting on redditchan
>habitating redditearth
>being made of redditmatter
>he isn't a darkmatterchad
NGMI
The "I heckin love science" people are the villains you fricking moron. It's literally satirizing reddit types. Absolutely filtered.
>The "I heckin love science" people are the villains
he never got that far - he immediately stood up, and started screeching "THIS IS REDDIT, THIS IS MEMES" before his dad had to run in and beat him with a belt.
pretty sure redditors get beaten with jumper cables, actually.
The whole DLC's humor is just that though? Not just the villains, and even if only the villains were like that, it wouldn't make it good. A villain having shitty writing that's painful to sit through doesn't make it fine just because they're the villains.
in that other dlc where that black guy is rambling about The Divide for like 10 hours, I had gotten so sick of hearing the words The Divide that I pulled out my shotgun and blew his head off without even listening to his final conversations at all.
They are quirky morons because the real lobotomites were the Think Tank scientists all along.
They have been brain damaged and kept in a loop on purpose.
OWB came out before the 'i fricking love science' craze. Stop feeling like you need to convince Ganker that you fit in
It predated it's peak, but corny pop-science with wacky humor is probably older than you.
You mean like dexters lab? Was that 'i heckin love science?'
I'd say BBT really kicked it off and that released in 2007, 4 years before OWB.
The whole Dawkins/New Atheist movement also helped. The God Delusion came out in 2006.
And the "AUDIENCE STARTS LAUGHING UNCONTROLLABLY" BBT pasta already existed on Ganker before OWB came out, so we were already looking down on that type of humor.
Didnt really stop OWB from being funny, thats what happens when you hire actually good voice actors.
That's nice dear, but Ganker had a whole shitstorm about how it tried too hard to be funny and pander to the BBT crowd.
Wow cool did you guys do a raid? Did you call for blackup?
>bombards you with 30 minutes of le science dialog
>was just pretending to be moronic
I'm gonna frick your ass then claim I was just satirizing gay rapists.
Not if I satirize you as my gay rape victim first
You can't satirize the willing.
i wonder if Ganker felt this way when the dlc came out.
hating quirky humor is a modern thing
>lel benis fingers
Yiss 😀
>I got spurs dat dingle dangle
Dingle dangle :DDD
Yeah it was really cringe and the level scaling is all over the place too
not sure what they were thinking
All of the DLCs have level scaling, just like Fallout 3 did. Only Fallout NV's base Mojave Wasteland doesn't have any scaling at all, making it the odd one out.
This is the DLC that gets relentlessly shat on, but somehow Lonesome Road keeps getting a pass. What the frick.
LR had some cool atmosphere at least
All of the expansions for NV are meh.
frick you, Dead Money was amazing
>amazing
-ly tedious.
The story, characters and atmosphere are great, the gameplay is bad.
Dead Money has way too much fricking dialogue and story, the writers had their heads up their asses thinking their material was much better than it actually was
I really cringed during the conclusion speech
if you're not a storygay it's worthless. if you are a storygay it's great throughout. really that simple.
I'm a storygay and I hated it cause the gameplay is abysmal and all the outside areas are too samey looking.
>welcome to fallout haha
Yeah but this takes the cake.
obviously you're not a storygay if the story isn't king. I'm not sure why you seem to want to die on this hill.
Because you agonizing the whole way through doesn't make up for it. Storygay doesn't mean "durr nothing else matters", might as well not play fricking videogames in the first place if that's your definition.
I am a storygay, the story wasn't great, which is why I found it tiresome
It wasn't bad, but it was nowhere near as good as the authors thought it was
I can't wait to see how dogshit your idea of "good writing" is. It's always something hilariously shitty whenever anyone who comes off with this horseshit "durr de writing is le CRINGEY and PRETENTIOUS" take.
Non-gamers get filtered hard because it strips them of their gear and supplies, but the presentation is very well done.
>pass a speech check
>get his bad ending for it
>expect a donut for clicking a button
>dont get the donut
Honestly it was a nice suprise. There should be more of shit like this were you get punished for mindlessly clicking dialogue options because they're tied to a skill check
There's plenty of clear negative skill checks in the Fallout series, even 3 had them (eg: blowing up megaton). It's pretty clear what a skill check will accomplish almost every time. This one was just a dishonest bait and switch.
I liked what they went for, but it was kind of bullshit because up until that point you've never encountered something like it, so you would have no way of knowing. They really should have implemented more "Speech check isn't autowin" beforehand.
The concept isn't bad, but one skill check fricking you over is moronic, specially since the whole point is that Dean is petty egocentric with a fragile ego, something you wouldn't know when meeting him
To me, they should've made it like a secret reputation with him, where the more competency snd showing off you do, the more pissed of he gets
The real problem is that you can't try to talk him out of it if you have an even bigger speech check or have him not be pissed anymore depending of dialogue choices when you make small talk with him during the DLC, that at least would've been nice.
>one-up the spiteful frick
>expect him to not hate you for it
That speech check instance alone is beyond based. Dean is a dick and him dying IS the good ending. He fricks over Sinclair because hes an evil jealous prick. Do you guys even into context?
Let's not pretend anyone expected that speech check to backfire anon, no need to defend it. You can skill check way worse pieces of shit than him without that happening.
That speech check didnt backfire, it did exactly what it was meant to do. Everyone just gets butthurt they have to kill their c**t of a companion
>killing dean is a bad ending
>the presentation is very well done
>railroaded throughout the entirety of it by means of explosive collar and red cloud in an open world RPG
>very well done
BUT DUDE, THEY SAID "learn to let go" 30 TIMES IN THE DLC, ITS FRICKING DEEP!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty much every fallout dlc is linear. The honest hearts area is pretty small
>BUT DUDE, THEY SAID "learn to let go" 30 TIMES IN THE DLC, ITS FRICKING DEEP
>reductive moron has to make up talking points for me just so he could attack it
go be obnoxious somewhere else
In this moment, I am euphoric, not because of some phony good writing, but because I learned to let go, just like Dead Money taught me.
and here you are, still unable to let go.
you're right, i cannot let go of this game because its fun. neither can Ganker for continuing to post in it well over a decade later including you
Also I never let go lol, I take the gold every time
They didn't say it 30 times
They say it 10 times
Trying to make the fricking fallout 3 engine of all things into something it's not was a moron level decision. I actually like being stripped of my OP gear, when it happened in the Pitt it was fairly engaging getting replacements bit by bit. Getting my head blown off my stupid radios and being attacked by unkillable holograms was not great. Oh and the repetitive enviroment. Also the writing in all the DLCs is way wonkier than the basegame, probably since theyre supposed to be super character driven.
It was good, but a better concept than execution. I don't think NV was the right game to try and make a survival horror out of
I also dislike how the technology seems to work like magic, stretching even Fallout's logic
Also the ending. It's super contrived that Elijah has mega bombs ready to detonate that will conveniently stop you from getting all those gold bars, and that he can't be sneaked around, or have his force fields hacked
Based, if all of FNV was designed like Dead Money it'd be my favorite game
homosexual
Dead Money was good
Correct.
Dead Money is amazing but only if you have the light step perk.
It's miserable otherwise.
The best part is breaking your legs every thirty seconds
I get it for the millisecond warning instant death mines in lonesome road also
>bad dlc getd shat on
>good dlc doesn't
>LR
>Good
THE BEAR AND THE BULL AND THE BEAR AND THE BULL AND THE BEAR AND THE BULL
damn right
filtered.
>can only speak in memes
>why is it bad you ask? Well you see this one time on Ganker I saw a meme about it
It's actually a pretty accurate summation of how forced and tryhard the writing for LR was.
I think that's a meme because his detection for which faction you're supporting is shit so 90% of the time he thinks you're NCR even when you're not. I installed the fix mod and supported House and he was more going on about me supporting old world ghosts and stuff.
Also if you are Wild Card/Yes Man, he is in full on contempt mode at you, because as far as he sees it, you stand for nothing at all.
>he was more going on about me supporting old world ghosts and stuff.
And then he gives you a copy of his outfit, because for some reason House gets the Old World flag instead of the Lucky 38 logo
I usually go Independent and even with that one mod he kept accusing me of supporting House until the final confrontation.
>Go, Ralphie! Fly far and fly f-ACK!
Of course Ganker loves it. All of the freaks on here are black wiener addicted trannies.
They probably hear bull and their girl clitty starts leaking.
Honest Hearts is the most forgettable for me, all I remember about it is Joshua's voice.
LR is like the white phosphorus scene in Spec Ops, but worse because it's based on constantly berating the player character for something that they didn't actively choose to do and that happens entirely off screen. If the plot were in any other game Ganker would be tripping over themselves to shit on it.
LR gives the player the ability to deny they ever had anything to do with that though. Also it kind of becomes obvious that Ulysses was so desperate for answers, he started seeing patterns and connections that just weren’t there.
Even if you go that route you're still stuck walking in a straight line for several hours while listening to him monologue about stuff that never actually appears in the game. It's tedious and stupid.
Eh, I liked it but that’s because it was nice and fun having a gauntlet for your late game courier to run.
One of the terminals in NV has a guy who had my character's name/nickname as a surname
So i like to think Ulysses saw a courier who shared that surname destroy his life, seethed about it for years, then saw another guy who sorta shares the same name and kinda maybe looks similar if you squint from a few yards away, and decided they were the same person without confirming it.
I mean, even without that coincidence that’s pretty much what happened. He was seething so badly over what happened to the Divide, that he started piecing it together in a way that only made sense to him. Dude was so lost in symbols he couldn’t deal with reality, which is that sometimes in the Wastes, shit just happens.
Oh hey, I do that too.
That's why I always name my Courier's simple names, because it needs to something common enough that Ulysses saw in a terminal and fantasized a whole story about
Kek
I named mine Rook, to fit with Benny, since Benny and Rook are both the names of trump/joker cards in some card games.
The part where it could be a real name was incidental, but i really liked it.
Oh you Black person that's actually pretty good.
Funny enough, I named a VtMB character Rook, to fit with the whole chess motif and animal thing bc he was a Gangrel
With NV I tried to give the Courier the simplest, more common names to justify why no one ever calls him by name. Shit, like "Russ", "Jon", "Ted", "Jorge" (I made a Mexican once)
That's funny, anon
Iirc, the VTM Night Road """"game""" also has Rook as one of the default names for your protagonist
I name my characters after soft drinks. Dr. Pepper, Big Red, and Mugsy (for Mug Root Beer)
It also forces a backstory to your character that can not make any sense
>LR gives the player the ability to deny they ever had anything to do with that thoug
Yeah, but it's really weak and feels like a guilty man's denial, like you're trying to convince yourself. You can never go
>Yeah, that's impossible I wasn't even a courier at the time.
>Nope, never seen this place in my life
>I'm like 16, it's mathematically impossible for me to have done that
You can tell dreadlock man that he's full of shit, you actually find out that he's just coping hard about what happened and trying to find someone to blame things on to the point of hallucinating connections that don't exist.
Nah they really don't let you say flat out that you never did what he's talking about
Just one line saying buddy I never delivered anything in my life before that chip and Ulysses having a nervous breakdown would have saved the dlc for me
I could be misremembering, but I don't think you can, at least not take a firm stance. Which was very frustrating because every denial option was
>I don't remember delivering a package
>I never been here... I think
>It wasn't me! It couldn't have been...
And similar bullshit, never a firm "Couldn't have been me butthole"
I can get that. It's him desperate to male sense of your actions and mythologizing you and your deeds, he's having a years longnapophenic episode
It just irritates me that you have to partake in his bullshit. I honestly wouldn't even mind (much) if after you plainly stated it couldn't have been you he just ignored you and kept rambling and only at the end he would've listened to you and had a mental breakdown, but noooo, Provolone wanted his meta commentary of player actions affecting npcs
Worse: What your character did, as a mailman, was deliver a package. Ulysses, as another mailman, should understand that the job is just delivering things. You don't really know what's in the package.
That's actually part of what you can tell him, and you can convince him to stop hating you for petty bullshit.
>It's your fault that you indirectly did something you never could have known or expected!
>Ulysses, as another mailman, should understand that the job is just delivering things
Ulysses isnt just a regular mailman. Hes a frumentari of Caesar's legion, its a significant reason why he wants to launch nukes into the mojave
LR has the best aesthetics.
The worst thing about lonesome road is getting camera fricked into annoying conversations every 20 steps. It's so bad it feels like malicious compliance
Everyone stops playing before they get to LR
People either shit on Dead Money or OWB because of how polar opposite they are.
>You can't have everything (without cheating or cheese) paired with a serious narrative
>You can have everything and are pushed to explore all you want in a place with a wacky-ass narrative that should not be taken seriously
Honest Hearts gets forgotten because of how bland it is and how super short the main quest is.
Lonesome Road gets a pass because it's the finale and provides story closure in its own way.
amazing how this post is proven wrong by like half the thread.
Okay.
Dead Money is 10/10 if you're a chad melee build.
>somehow Lonesome Road keeps getting a pass
Do we browse the same board or did you just miss all the:
>BEAR AND THE BULL
posting?
I have only heard mockery for Lonesome Road
DM is clearly the only one they put any effort into, and even then it's pretty disappointing with the lack of enemy variety. But overall it's the best because it's the most concise and effective with what it's trying to achieve. A nice, linear self-contained story with cool characters.
HH could have been the best if it went for like 6-8 hours instead of 3. As it stands all of the interesting characters and factions aren't given enough time to shine and it's over before it feels like it's just getting started.
OWB is pretty fricking annoying and repetitive and even more half-baked than HH but thankfully it also only goes on for 3 hours.
I still have not played Lonesome Road after all this time but I'll be getting to it with my current TTW playthrough.
>ttw
i want to replay nv with ttw but i cant be bothered reinstalling the correct versions of all my mods for ttw
I like all the DLCs
Realistically, is ANY dlc for these open world games EVER good? Unless it came with the edition you bought, I don't understand why someone would willingly put in $20 to experience a fourth of the original game years later
It's simple. I like the game so I want more of it.
Elden Ring's dlc is gonna be great.
dawnguard was cool
>join vampire hunter club
>first mission is to not kill a vampire
>Gives you a vampire waifu in the first few minutes of it
>It's Laura Bailey voice fricking your ears
>Actually looks decent
>Bethesda actually goes the extra mile and gives an interesting backstory, decent script, relatable motivation and goals
>Despite the LDB being an amorphous blob, building rapport with her is not bad
>She friendzones you
Like good fricking god. You even had dialogue for her rejecting marriage. Why do this? It's like Cass in NV, just put a dude there. Have the DLC companion be Obru Scarhand, an orc that Harkon killed the family or something, so he's after revenge
Serena made me wish Bethesda put actual effort into the other companions. Like, I get that she's basically the centerpiece of a whole DLC so I don't expect as much content for the other companions as she got, but frick me the Skyrim followers are so fricking boring and shallow. Its a shame, because there's some that could be really top tier if Bethesda didn't do the absolute bare fricking minimum in everything they do. Like I would have loved if Mjoll the Lioness had a whole questline were you help her take down the Thieve's Guild, the corrupt Jarl and Maven Blackbriar.
>Centerpiece of the DLC
I laugh at how every modder that ever tries to make a non-generic companion always tries to make another Serana and misses that one exact point im her role, making their mod a companion-centered OC wankfest with giant convoluted guestlines and shit, instead of making them... well, actually an interesting fricking character integrated into the game that may have a personal quest later on.
Fallout 4 companions were really good in that "Not generic NPC but not OC donutsteel" balance, surprisingly. They had memorable character and they weren't the focus of everything when they're in your party, even the "haha meme funny" ones like Strong or Deacon. Same case with New Vegas.
Wish skyrim modders would actually take a page out of these books for once instead of trying to make yet another reskinned Serana.
Don't take what I said as praise for Serena or how forced into the story she is, mind you. I just wish Bethesda had put half as much effort into the regular companions as they did to Serena.
As much as I didn't really like Fallout 4, the direction they went with companions in Fallout 4 has me slightly more hopeful for ES6.
Yeah, it really feels like a lot of Bethesda problems is that they either don't try or can't try.
Serana was fine. Endearing, understandable. Mjoll was a nice premise, but hits a wall after her initial dialogue. There's a chick living in the mountains that teaches you how to fire a bow that's pretty great too. She has a backstory, a distinct personality, gives you memorable stuff to do, but it's just a drop in a sea of bland forgettableness
>wanting to marry Molag Bal's sloppy seconds
I'm more pissed that there isn't a single female khajit you an marry
Far Harbor was neat. I wish it expanded even more on the Children of Atom. More quests etc.
Also Frick the shipbreaker it ate all my ammo
Far Harbor was easily the best part about Fallout 4
Far Harbor makes you wonder how the same company also made Nuka World. Honestly, I'd cum in my pants if they'd made a full standalone Fallout game with Far Harbor's atmosphere. It feels like what the FO4 main game should have been. I don't dislike Fallout 4 but there's a lot of art and design choices that feel jarring and out of place in a Fallout game. Chief amongst those being the downtown area of Boston and it's high rises that look like the buildings in the backgrounds of Mega Man games.
>Far Harbor makes you wonder how the same company also made Nuka World.
Probably because the guy who wrote Nick Valentine's character was the lead designer for Far Harbor.
Far Harbor is the oddest anomaly. Like whoever was in charge of writing for that one should be doing the mainline games instead of Emile.
They guy who wrote it left Bethesda
Grim
It's funny because Far Harbor is like a full idea of what could be East Coast fallout games if Bethesda wasn't moronic, I'd argue the Pitt too.
>environment isn't a desert because it isn't the west coast
>good use of the local culture with a nice maine feel even introducing regional soft drinks like NV did
>actual new enemies that aren't just "something from previous games"
>used the concept of the environment in the story with the children of atom
4 I think tried a few of this but man did they just not hit or get bogged down in constant waves of "we need super mutants and we NEED the brotherhood of steel".
>environment isn't a desert because it isn't the west coast
God how that annoyed me. Seriously download a forrest mod and the Mood Changes for the better.
I think i see some kind of patter forming with how Bethesda do DLC for at least their single player fallouts, one DLC set in a spooky place, and another DLC involving raiders, and at least another that is extremely silly in premise.
Shivering Isles was an actual kino dlc, one of my favorites of all time
It worked really well with Oblivions super saturated environments too
Really? I thought its quests were boring as sin, what with them being "go to this dungeon half a continent away and get the thing", the one where you become a dungeon master to toy around some npcs was waaaay too on the nose and could have been executed better. The only thing I remember liking was Sheogorath, and I bet if I replay it I won't like him anywhere near as much all these years later considering I remember him having wacky non-sequitur humor.
Literally all obsidian had to do is release a new open world area like point lookout or the pit, which played to the games strenghts (faction politics, open ended quests)
Instead we got an interconnected mess of linear hit-or-miss (miss) experiences with a cherry on top that is giving the courier a backstory.
Imagine if they did a broken-steel type post-game dlc. Even if it's as linear as BS was, it'd be something. Or add a new area in deep legion territory because a ton of that stuff got axed.
It was just a ton of references to a million different sci fi shit. Like the brains were voiced by people famous for doing that shit. Rusty venture AND his dad? It was fine. My least favorite is actually honest hearts. Yes Josuha is one of the best vidya charecters but he carries the DLC so frickin hard the rest is so frickin bad. I didnt really like dead money much either. Actually the new vegas dlc was pretty mediocre.
All the DLC's are dogshit, this one in particular made me cringe
no OWB and LR are just plain bad. OWB is quriky chungus maximus shit and LR is pure Avellone seethe. DM and HH are passable,
Oh hey, I have that mod
His bandages still appear clean to me tho
>Old World Blues
Words words words, Reddit humor, le funny plot twist
>Lonesome Road
Eh, not bad, not good
>Honest Hearts
New Vegas's Blue Shift (in the sense that it's just more of the same)
>Dead Money
Great if you can get into it, but too many moronic and annoying gameplay mechanics
recently replayed the lot
DM was good fun but I think that's because I was doing unarmed/explosives
HH was boring as frick. Fetch-quests and one final fight.
OWB was more fetch-quests. And doing the same area over and over again.
LR is a fricking corridor with no dialogue or skill checks.
???
>bro this 5 minutes at the end totally counts
I accept your concession.
>bro do you make one of four choices at the end!?! bro it's totally a roleplaying game
>drops the original argument and moves to another one because he realized he was wrong
Double concession.
>no bro this dialogue check at the end really affects the story and makes it worth slogging through a bunch of linked combat rooms in this RPG
if you were smart buddy you'd have posted Ulysses' holotapes you can find to convince him rather than "hurr i click speech"
I posted evidence of both dialogue and skill check, proving you wrong. You can move the goalpost all you want, it won't change that fact.
>our history
>you never met the c**t before this, all the 'history' is implied bullshit from Avellone's swollen anus.
Avellone's the only good writer the series has had, that's why Fallout 2 is so great.
Avellone is an alcoholic sexpest that never wrote anything good, and that's why Fallout 2 is pure dogshit filled with pop-culture references and nothing to say about anything.
I suppose you hate Fallout 1 too since the whole fricking thing is a giant reference to Mad Max then.
It isn't, and Fallout 1 actually had a point to make and something say about the human condition, and about how conflict and war are an inescapable part of all life on earth.
>It isn't,
You dishonest sack of shit. Did you think stuff like the leather jacket and the dog companions were just a coincidence?
I didn't realize Mad Max invented leather jackets, deserts, shotguns and dogs. You a Palworld hater by any chance, genius?
Now this is just getting TOO gullible, holy shit. Drop the act, you're not fooling anyone. There's no way in hell a single soul on this planet who knows both Mad Max and Fallout doesn't notice the obvious references.
They're not Mad Max references, they're A Boy and his Dog-references 🙂
Oooh, a wise guy, huh? Look, I’m tracing you right now, pal. We’ll see how smart you feel with internal security all over your fricking ass. Dickhead!
I liked that book
Thought the ending sucked tho
You're a teen.
Leonard Boyarsky and Jason Anderson, two out of Fallout 1's 5-man core team, actually said Mad Max 2 is their favorite movie of all time and is the reason Leonard even suggested making a post apocalyptic game in the first place.
https://archive.is/WRa1
>le based and breadpilled isometric gaymes are the super smart ones because uhhhhh gimme street cred ok
>posts a wojak
Retcon. The only insane ones of the old world were Vault-Tec, who made almost all of the vaults into social experiments nobody would ever see the outcome of and who started the nuclear missile launches. Why? Because they're saturday morning cartoon villains who are evil for the sake of being evil.
OWB scientists are just the embodiment of lolxdsorandumb
>Retcon. The only insane ones of the old world were Vault-Tec, who made almost all of the vaults into social experiments
That in and of itself is a retcon.
>Why?
It's actually explained in 2 but based on this comment I'm going to assume you haven't played the originals thus not knowing the stuff in old world blues is not new when it comes to the series talking about pre-war institutions.
>2
>the borderlands 2 of the series
epic
it was retconned even as F2 was baking in the oven. The very original idea behind the vault experiments was that the encalve was preparing a generation ship project for outer space colonization and pragmatically the vaults could not even save 1% of the pre war pop anyway. So they turned it into a stress test bed for possible scenarios generation ships would encounter
Long ride of lobotomization later it turned into experiments for the whacky lulz where everybody was named Gary
I like the Gary vault
>sexpest
Only women and b***h boys use this word. Sexpest? Right, because all men should act like you, and remain celibate, always soft and submissive around women? Lmao you fricking homosexual. Let me guess, Avellone hit on your girlfriend in front of you, and she liked it.
Bro i don't ANYONE would like to get hit on by Avellone
That man is BAD at flirting
prove it b***h
>that's why Fallout 2 is so great.
Fallout 2 was bad though. Aside from a few QoL changes, world and story were down from Fallout 1.
Fallout 1's world is too small and the quests are mediocre. You don't get to care about any character other than maybe the Master and Harold if you read their logs. But the way you convince The Master of his mistake is fricking moronic ("did you check if your soldiers' dicks worked?"). The only actually interesting location is The Glow, solely because of its backstory, atmosphere and presentation. The Master is still a better antagonist than the president, I'll give you that.
Fallout 2 inspired reddit culture
Actually that'd be Ganker.
Reddit and Ganker are the same thing
I hated it. Never finished.
I still don't get what OWB was trying to teach me
hand penises
Instead of killing batshit crazy scientists, befriend them and have them make cool shit for you.
Didn't you get it? When the robots screamed "PEENUS WEEENUS FINGIE >xxxxxD" for the millionth time and after watching the entirety of Rick & Morty, i truly understood the deep philosophical meaning behind that seemingly banal phrase. The robots have become so estranged from humanity, they no longer ever remember what fingers and toes are, and keep mistaking them for penises. Deep and philosophical, yet extremely humorous. Avellone is truly the greatest writer of our generation, nay, of all time. He wasn't just drunkenly scribbling random shit into a napkin about making references to 50's science fiction theater and peenus weenus. no sir.
>When the robots screamed "PEENUS WEEENUS FINGIE >xxxxxD" for the millionth time and after watching the entirety of Rick & Morty, i truly understood the deep philosophical meaning behind that seemingly banal phrase
Zoomers are so fricking moronic they dont realize OWB released TWO YEARS before rick and morty premiered
scientists are degenerate morons when left to their own devices will become akin to liches in a magical castle when the whole 'apocalypse' thing happens
nuclear fire opens their mountain and reveals their autism lair to the wasteland
flawed gods they have become, but ironically they have a chain to their work that is 'America'
Those scientists, for one reason or another, each seemed to remain loyal to Fallout's America in their electric-induced dementia and articulated such to Ulysses when pressed on how they could become such giant homosexuals that they couldn't remember who they were, but they remembered the values in the country they strove for
It was kind of pro-america in a way I wasn't expecting, it was pretty kino unless I missed the communism underlines
The people of the old world were insane. The big key is the think tank did not become the way they are, not fully. More than half of the manmade horrors were pre-war.
>More than half of the manmade horrors were pre-war.
The RoboBrain lore you get from the climax of the Automatron DLC is truly disturbing and one of the more fricked up bits of Fallout lore. A society with the veneer of wholesome 1950's Americana removing its own citizens' brains and shoving them into jars to become processors is just nightmarish.
It's supposed to be a prometheus thing, the scientists at big mountain made progress for the sake of progress without any care of what they were progressing towards. They were too ambitious with their pursuit of knowledge and played major role in fricking up the world
It’s in the name, people holding on to the past yet blindly rushing towards the future and an idea of “progress”. The Think Tank are made up of amoral manchildren that had to be figuratively lobotomized by one of their former colleagues just to stop them from wreaking havoc on the wider world.
Progress for the sake of progress is meaningless.
The Think Tank were a bunch of old world ghost funded by a country that no longer exists to fight in a war that ended again an enemy long dead
But they never realized that because they were too caught up in their own little worlds playing god.
They didn't seek to improve anything, help anybody or serve any purpose, all they did was satisfy their curiosities without rhyme or reason, leading them to loop into themselves
>but that was moebius
Moebius just kept them going, realizing that they could break free of it and harm the outside
>Moebius just kept them going, realizing that they could break free of it and harm the outside
Honestly, Mobius was a really interesting and compelling character. He's basically a warden keeping inhuman monsters from breaking out and causing immense suffering.
Moebius was great. While always silly, he starts off as this obvious B-movie villain, like the Crimson Ghost or something. With death rays and robo minions. And when you finally reach him he's basically a senile grandfather asking if you want another mint.
You can only really speculate what he was, but from his room and his personality it's clear he was far more centered and put together than the rest of those maniacs in the think tank, and he likely operated as the voice of reason for a good while
Still is, in a way
to fear alzheimers
nostalgia bad
The world had a chance to rebuild itself with the tech from Big MT, of course Avelonne got butthurt at this and made LR just to spite OWB trying to claim that the tunnelers were going to destroy everything and revert the world back to as if it just got nuked again.
The funniest thing about that moronic "hur da tunneller gon kill everything so nothing matters" shit is that when they first get introduce by killing that deathclaw the devs had to actually force the deathclaw to die because a lone deathclaw kept killing them.
The tunnellers really felt like a minor issue, all things considered. Mr. House's robot army, Caesar's Legion or NCR's army could probably just deal with them easily.
Its funny when you realize the "mysterious" and "enigmatic" characters who talk in a bunch of cryptic nonsense is actually just completely full of shit and has no idea what he's talking about.
The way i see it - It's not about tunnellers being strong, but getting rid of them
Tunnellers live deep underground and emerge practically wherever they can dig through, which means that with them in the region you need to keep every nook and cranny patrolled 24/7 and have them be constantly supplied with flashbangs and flamers, which is a logistic clusterfrick by itself, and they could all just emerge in some civillian farmland and spread from there. And even if you can turn the wasteland into a constantly policed state, you have the problem of tunnellers being able to breed, deep underground too, where no one will be able to get them, which essentially turns them into even bigger roaches than radroaches were. Add to that the fact that sooner or later the tunnel networks will weaken the soil buildings stand upon and you have an absolute nightmare scenario at hand. It's a fight humanity might hold off for a while, but pretty much is doomed to fail.
>Tunnellers live deep underground and emerge practically wherever they can dig through, which means that with them in the region you need to keep every nook and cranny patrolled 24/7
Just dig a big hole
And shine a giant flashlight at it
Hell just send some mr. Handy into the hole armed with flashlights.
You all really overestimate how dangerous a threat like tunnelers is when your biggest infrastructure projects are maybe a few stories high
Tunnelers are just gay regardless
They've been at the Divide for what? 100 years? More? Couldn't even kill off the marked men or stop deathclaws from nesting in their natural habitat, they're chumps
A single nest of cazador is a much bigger problem for infrastructure because bugs, unlike lizard/human hybrids procreate real fast without the need of much food
>100 years
More like not more than a decade or two.
The divide was the usual NCR road used before the big Navarro boom, and the tunnellers were asleep until it all went nuclear.
>the tunnellers were asleep
What? Asleep how? How did they breed asleep? Or eat?
I cringed at the Venture Bros references in it.
People who troll about NV like to call it a Reddit game, but honestly this DLC is the only part of the NV experience that feels "Reddit" to me.
>Le wacky SCIENCE® theme!
>oooOOOWWOWWW it even has an "evil" scientist antagonist, just like my favorite capeshit comics!
>hahahah the jokes feel like I'm watching my very own Futurama episode!
>a DOG GUN?!?! Where's the upvote button?!
Only good part of the DLC is getting more backstory on Elijah and Christine (and getting Christine's gun).
No the best part of the DLC is the stealth suit.
Oh yea, I forgot about that. Ok. Three good things, then.
Except for when you're getting pumped full of Med-x
That just means she loves you.
>tfw you'll never have your own wearable AI waifu who turns you into a morphine addict every time she detects you got an "ouchie"
i always use the assassin suit from dead money, get the stealth suit then get a mod that swaps their textures
Based.
How is it that the robot/A.I companions in every Fallout game are the best companions?
>Curie
>Ada
>Stealth Suit MKII
>ED-E
>Sergeant RL-3
>Codworth
The fleshies can't even compete.
its universal trope giving machines likeable personalities. Other stuff like cyberpunk even did that
Huh. I just realized that the reason that's the case is because when people make characters for their stories, these characters typically being human or at least human-like in intelligence, the idea is to make them feel like real people with grounded personalities. But with robots or similar characters, you don't really have to worry about that because people understand they aren't real people. So you can focus entirely on making robots cool, cute and/or likable instead of realistic. Robots don't have the typical personality flaws that a living person would be expected to have.
Also since their personalities are mostly manufactured, they don't need a backstory, but what makes them change can also be interesting
Like Codsworth, who was a very recent addition to the SS' family, but his programmed loyalty made him stay around their house as a coping mechanism, and when he finally meets the SS again, he has a strangely human breakdown and tought process compared to most other robots in the franchise.
how the flying frick did they have a robot as advanced as codsworth pre-war?
RobCo is fricking bullshit
Do you mean the Think Tank? They’re in a giant R&D facility.
No, Codsworth, an impossible smart Mister Handy in Fallout 4 given the time of his existence.
He’s a companion so Bethesda probably thought making him more emotive would help.
He's seemingly the newest possible model, since he was bought really recently before the bombs dropped
fallout was a different, more advanced timeline than ours. They embraced nuclear energy instead of teaching society to fear it
anons, the point is that mister handies weren't that smart even in other fallouts AFTER the war, and now fo4 is telling us they were always smart BEFORE the war. don't try to reason it considering this same game also says vaultec or the us army some fricking how also had vertibirds pre war.
Fallout 76 actually had to create its own vertibird origin lore just to fix that plothole.
>asks for a reason
>gets reasons
>NO DON'T REASON IT
actually it's
>point out inconsistency
>get theories trying to explain it
>explain how they don't make sense by looking at the other entries
>>get theories trying to explain it
Yes that's called reasoning.
yes and I pointed out how they don't make sense, try to keep up.
Fallout robots are also supposed to be comical, completely unaware of context, the passage of time, etc. You can do absolutely anything with them.
Codsworth is great
I'd add in the robco connections and chinese people being put in internment camps. But yeah the best parts of the DLC aren't the main quest or NPCs.
The only bad DLC is Honest Hearts
Every other DLC adds something even if it's flavor or just a neat open area to explore with a bunch of cool new shit to frick around with. Honest Hearts on it's own is just boring, there's literally two interesting things in that DLC and they're Randall Clark and Joshua Graham but even they can't carry that area hard enough.
>not enjoying zion as a location
NGMI
>sliced off area that looks like it should've been somewhere in the base game
>half the questline is fetch quests and half of them don't even have proper names, just shit like "quest: do this"
>literally two characters worth a damn and one of them's dead
>shit enemies and shit 'final boss', entire last mission sucks ass outside of exactly one sneering imperialist option
>story is moronic and trying to offer a moral choice where one choice is so much better than the other and has a multitude more options that even in the """"good"""" pacifist ending the savior man thinks "maybe I was wrong this sucks"
there is literally nothing HH does that is better than any other DLC aside from based burnt mormon man, Legion should've had more content and he should've been a big part of it
>>half the questline is fetch quests and half of them don't even have proper names, just shit like "quest: do this
But enough about OWB (except owb is probably closer to 90%)
off area that looks like it should've been somewhere in the base game
Black person what ? It doesn't look anything like the Mojave. The different environment is nest break and surprising respite
>>half the questline is fetch quests and half of them don't even have proper names, just shit like "quest: do this"
That's OWB too
two characters worth a damn and one of them's dead
Fair enough
>>shit enemies and shit 'final boss', entire last mission sucks ass outside of exactly one sneering imperialist option
I like killing the white legs, I don't understand the problem
is moronic and trying to offer a moral choice where one choice is so much better than the other and has a multitude more options that even in the """"good"""" pacifist ending the savior man thinks "maybe I was wrong this sucks"
That's fair, but the overall idea of this being Joshua's story and you being there for the ride is something I like
Honest Hearts isn't bad at all. The only part of the DLC that's cringe is the "epic" final battle where you fight through the canyon. That bit really shows that even 12 years ago that engine was showing its limitations.
HH was 100% visual storytelling and was the closest in spirit to exploring the early areas of fallout 1 and 2 that we've seen in the 3d era. You must just have shit taste anon.
All dlc for new vegas are good because they're different from each other and main game
Meanwhile bethesda made "lol scary island" three times and "lol vampires" twice
In only five games
New Vegas DLCs are different in a bad way tho
They're just different
Maybe you just don't like them and that's fine
>hasn't played unhinged avellone(read new reno in fallout 2)
Still better than anything fallout 3/4 offered.
Nah, Far Harbor's better.
Honest Hearts was fun but it was too short.
You do a couple quests, kill Daniel and then everyone flips out and the whole thing just ends.
It's impressive how fricking bad all of the DLC in New Vegas and Fallout 3 is. Seriously every single one is a chore. Fallout 4 DLC was ok, but frick Dead Money, frick Mothership Zeta, and frick Lonesome Road forever.
>Fallout 4 DLC was ok
Nuka World is the single most boring and tedious shit ever put in a Fallout game.
>yes here are these 5 BIG AREAS FAR AWAY FROM EACHOTHER that you have to clear up and have to make pseudo settlements
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
I think the idea was that the novelty of the location would carry it but it only can go so far.
The ultimate sin of Nuka World imo was making you scour that boring piece of shit map to find StarCores to get the X-01 power armor. Aside from that, the map design of the various areas of the park are so, SO bad. Just convoluted and nonsensical mazes that don't feel organic in the slightest. Also, this might be an autistic gripe, but not allowing the player to create a mini-settlement in the tree house in Safari Adventure is unforgiveable.
>ADHD cumbrains
>t. never went to a theme park
The only flaw of Nuka World was making the majority of the rides and attractions unrideable for the endgame. You should entirely be able to ride every ride you can turn on.
>if you don't like boring, overly long fetch quests for the sake of one-dimensional characters you have ADHD
I'm surprised it's biologically possible for a human without a mental illness to enjoy Nuka World.
>I need instant gratification NOW NOW NOW!
There's no gratification whatsoever in Nuka World though? There's nothing to care for because the characters are the most forgettable ones in the game, and that's saying a LOT. Not a fan of reskinned enemies or the game forcing you to kill dozens of them to progress either.
>adhd riddled zoomoid believes there's no story or character because there weren't enough wacky cutscenes with constant angle changes and special effects on screen to keep his attention
There's none of that in any other Fallout game either though?
Nuka World is the only Fallout 4 DLC I haven't played. I do own it, but just can never bother playing for long enough to get to the recommended level for it.
It's pretty trash, especially if you're trying to play a good guy character. They give you zero options to just take down all the piece of shit clans in a narrative way and just go "You have to pick one to join, chud".
Yeah, that's what I had heard about it. I really don't think I'd be at all interested in it. I'll probably try it at some point just to see what it's like, but at this point not expecting much.
>frick Dead Money
Wrong
>frick Mothership Zeta
Agreed
>frick Lonesome Road forever
Agreed
Point Lookout in F3 was actually a pretty good setting and other than Lonesome Road, the DLC for NV ranged from Ok to Kind of good.
Does Ganker like Nick?
I prefer my companions female and mentally damaged with severe Daddy issues, so Cait is my fave.
Him and Danse were the only good characters in the base game. I didn't recruit Cait though, and I don't know if Ganker likes her for any reason other than their penises.
Companions are propably the best in the series(I don't really count Joshua because you can't go out of dlc with him) Cait is nice. Ada is very very Usefull(and you can turn her into a monster murderbot) Hanwiener and Vallentine are Great.
It's amazing how they backslided so hard with starfield on that front. I feel like the only reason companions were good in 4 is because they slipped under the top brasses radar
I dislike that they changed Piper into just a second Nora.
Is that ever explained or addressed in the game?
>Man, my wife dying and losing my son was so traumatizing
>If only I could impregnate someone that looked like her to make the pain go away
>third person dialog camera system
>ripped out and thrown away after a single game because autistic manchildren threw a tantrum over having a voiced protagonist
Just another reason autistic people need to be euthanized.
>autistic manchildren threw a tantrum over having a voiced protagonist
im confident people would have been more receptive to the voiced protagonist if there were more than four dialogue options for every choice. 'Yes, No, Yes (Sarcastic), and Tell Me More' is a meme for a reason
It's a meme from people who don't play games, yes. Just like 99% of starfield memes here are background citizens from the first city taken from a video.
That's why it works just fine when people like Bioware do it, right? It works fine in every game it's in, but autists want to hear their voices when they're playing as shitty self-inserts because they don't have the imagination required to make anything original.
This, I wish they removed customized protagonists too
>making shit up because you have no argument
>making shit up
>" but autists want to hear their voices when they're playing as shitty self-inserts because they don't have the imagination required to make anything original."
Why would you want a customizable protagonist if not to make a shitty self insert
Stop self inserting homosexual
You're fricking moronic and probably autistic yourself with how hard you're projecting and how obsessed you are with defending something so pointless. The point of role playing games is ROLE PLAYING. Making the main character have a voice gets in the way of that. Is that really so hard to understand?
Custom player characters in RPG's should always be silent protagionists.
>p-projecting
Maybe stop being a fricking b***h.
>abloo bloo bloo I can't roleplay if I can't do my shittiest impression of a real voice actor and have to hear someone who isn't a nasally little homosexual instead
Come back when you're of legal age to be here.
>but it sucked, shazam said so
Both voices work for all characters. The universe has its slang and dialect a constant for all runs of life.
>but what about scenarios that don't exist in games like age
>but what about [things that already happen with dialog choices]
>but what abou-ACK!
I don't who shazam is, but it sounds like a stripper's name, you shouldn't listen to their opinion on games
I'm saying it sucks, and since you're a tasteless homosexual and I'm not, your should listen to me
>I don't who shazam is
nta, but lol
tunnelers are really funny. they're only these evil awful unkillable creatures if...you live in a cave. people in-universe shit their pants over the frickers because they don't know how to deal with them / are fricking incompetent.
It's just Ulysses that's scared of them, the Marked Men seem to barely give a frick and no other npc exists in the DLC
Ulysses is in a constant mental breakdown, maybe he just needs them to be a world ending threat to cope
you are a voice actor, aren't you?
He's just a moronic shitposter who doesn't actually care about voiced protagonists and wants to shit up the thread by being intentionally argumentative about something random. Look at how ever post he makes has the world "autism" in it. He obviously don't believe anything he's posting and just wants to piss people off by spouting moronic opinions.
Ignore and hide his posts.
He's just a moronic shitposter who doesn't actually care about voiced protagonists and wants to shit up the thread by being intentionally argumentative about something random. Look at how ever post he makes has the world "autism" in it. He obviously doesn't believe anything he's posting and just wants to piss people off by spouting moronic opinions.
Ignore and hide his posts.
>you disagree with things
>therefore you're [boogeyman group x]
I'm tired of this rerun.
>deliberately being moronic so as to avoid addressing the actual argument
bloo bloo I can't roleplay if I can't do my shittiest impression of a real voice actor and have to hear someone who isn't a nasally little homosexual instead
Hold on. Do you actually think people say dialogue options out loud when they play RPG's? Do you do that? Holy shit, that is advanced autism. There's no saving you.
My issue is that it crippled the modding scene and made every quest mod feel janky as shit
The most moronic part of the four dialogs is that there are always four dialogs. Nobody gave their dialog writers some control in case they couldn't give four meaningful options, nor could they exceed four. Just a perfect example of bethesda cargo cult design. Because there are four face buttons on controllers you see
Voice protagonist's for role playing games with customizable main characters is always a moronic idea. The only game where it isn't insufferable was Mass Effect, and that's because most people just went with default Sheploo anyway.
It's extremely wasteful and inefficient to have multiple voiced characters when there are dialogue options. Imagine hiring 16 people to read every line in the whole game.
With AI though, it will be easy, and profitable, to have many different voices for the character.
>wasteful
Except it isn't and you're just making excuses. Nobody is doing 16 alternate voices, just one male and one female. Starfield in particular gives your character a voice in the ending, even if male Dusty was supposed to be Elias Toufexis, so what's the point of making him mute?
>Nobody is doing 16 alternate voices, just one male and one female
Yeah, because it's too expensive to have so many voices. Which is why so many people have issues with voiced player characters, because the voice just doesn't fit if they make non-default characters.
No, because that's a scenario you invented in your head to justify not having voiced protagonists. No more than 2 voices are ever needed, and Cyberpunk 2077's massive amounts of dialog proves well enough that there's no need to skip out on that.
Go back.
male V voice only works for streetkid, and female V voice only works for corpo. Otherwise, it just doesn't sound right. And what if you want to make an older or younger character? What if your character is of a different race, because they have different voices? What if you want your character to sound nice or mean, or somewhere in between? That's the point, b***h
This. Like how Baldur's Gate 3 everything character you play sounds like a fricking British person, regardless of race or back round.
Only after you go back to plebbit
But it sucked? There's no company willing to put the massive effort in time and money to hire dozens of VAs to voiced thousands of lines to properly give a voiced protagonist the same depth of customization you can a voiceless one
Maybe with AI or Troy Baker's NFTs this will change
person dialog camera system
DA:Origins and BG3 pulled it off nicely, and without (dialogue) voiced protagonists to boot.
Bethesda has always had horrible writers.
This dlc was great. Even fricking Ganker was "le reddit hum0r" when this dlc came out you fricking tryhard dweebs.
Cut the bullshit anon, we were making fun of tryhard le science humor things like BBT at the time already, and that was years before OWB.
>We
You maybe. There were plenty of people who were overall positive about it, the only bit that got consistent hate was the 'finger penis' bit.
>this site hated BBT years prior but somehow loved OWB even though it's the same brand of humour
So what you're saying is that you saw some threads where the kind of person that OWB was aimed at said they liked it and formed your opinion of Ganker around that.
>The site
The surest sign that you're a newbie is your repeated insistence on there being a hivemind.
I killed the Big MTN brains for the simple reason that they bothered to perform medical malpractice on innocent people, irreversibly ruining their lives and turning them into violent morons, yet did so in the most cowardly way possible. Then they continued to be cowards who hid in their pristine tower until I reintroduced them to conventional warfare. There is nothing worse than evil people who are also cowards.
Mobius was allowed to live because he's not really a danger to anyone except me. The scorpions don't actually attack lobotomites or other anything that isn't me, for some raisin.
Mobius is too busy poping adderall all day to be a threat to the rest of the world like the rest of the brains.
There should really be a mod where you can kill Motor-Runner, take over Vault 3 and turn the Fiends into your own personal army.
There probably is, I mean, you can turn enemies into allies with in-game console commands already anyway.
Why did he do it?
Lizard pussy does things to a man. The subterranean humans were powerless
i liked this and dead money, apart from joshua graham his dlc is pretty meh and i didn't really like lonesome road
my favourite is dm tho
for me, it's the story of Randall Clark
It's kinda funny how not even the guy who helped raise the first Sorrows agrees with Daniel
Not even the writers and causality itself agrees with Daniel since he doesn't feel good in his own ending. The true choice is how you help Graham deal with his demons in the end.
The only reason to play Honest Hearts is for Joshua Graham, and Randall Clark and his armor.
>his armor
Nothing about that armor makes any frickin sense
It's called "desert ranger combat armor" even though no desert ranger ever wore it. It was the service armor of a USMC jarhead, even though he should probably be using combat armor, and then Randall Clark just got it somehow
it's desert ranger combat armor because it's the riot gear desert rangers wore. don't think about it too hard.
But why not call it Survivalist Armor or something?
Also, it's funny how the uber iconic Ranger armor was inspired by Tycho's brief description when he was just supposed to be wearing regular leather armor and carrying a normal gas mask just in case, it wasn't a uniform.
The new backstory for it is also odd. It's either LAPD riot armor, in which case one has to wonder how the frick LA police is getting such phenomenal armor that's better than what the Army has; or/and USMC armor, which makes more sense since the Marines are supposed to be a quick and mobile force doing recon, but in either option you have to wonder how the frick did the Desert Rangers, which hail from Nevada and Arizona got a hold of the armor
It makes more sense for it to be NCR Rangers armor since the Boneyard (LA) and the The Hub (Barstow, CA, where the USMC has it's main supply and maintenance base)
The Ranger Armor, Riot Armor, and Desert Armor are all manufactured by the same company. It's only slightly superior to the US Combat Armor, which would be standard issue, with DT 22 instead of the Combat Armors DT 18. The NCR Ranger Armor is basically just recreations of this old armor using the equipment looted from that companies factory presumably or just refurbished versions of the old armor. It's also worth noting that pre-War law enforcement put in some fricking work in the Fallout universe. Motherfrickers were constantly fighting armed rioters and even fricking mutants.
>It's also worth noting that pre-War law enforcement put in some fricking work in the Fallout universe. Motherfrickers were constantly fighting armed rioters and even fricking mutants.
Yeah annexing the leafs would do that to you. Meese patrols, milk bag over the head at 3pm followed by maple boarding with gallons of syrup.
Were there even mutants before the war? Plus, it's still weird that the Desert Rangers have it when all places that would make it/store it are in Cali
Also, I think for better balance, Combat Armor should've been heavier with AG penalties and Ranger Armor no penalties and lighter
Considering how extensive the coverage of the FEV serum was at the beginning you can assume that some of the proto versions of the mutants would start popping up across the country. Coincide with the rat population exploding since most of cat population starting to drop off around this time.
I believe (not certain) that some FEV specimen broke containment and spread a massive FEV plague as a result. The first Ghouls were basically the result of dormant FEV people getting irradiated to shit in the Great War. The Desert Rangers are (kind of sort of) a nod to the Desert Rangers in the Wasteland series. The Rangers are basically just a part of the NCR military with loads of independence by the events of FNV, so they get all the cool shit. Also yeah Combat Armor should have been the premier Medium Armor and Ranger Armor should have been the Light Armor.
In reality it's a wasteland reference
not the games fault you have no sense of humor. Objectively and widely recognized as the best DLC of the four
by who?
reddit
Yeah, some of the humor in OWB was pretty Reddit, but I still liked the goofy 50s pulp parody aesthetic they went for in the DLC. People forget that Fallout can be silly from time to time.
Honest Hearts > Every other shitty DLC in troony vegas.
The worst thing about being here this long is seeing the narrative around this game change as zoomers take over and shit their panties in hatred.
Call me Reddit all you want, I liked the Sci-Fi B-movie aesthetic.
>Call me Reddit all you want
Okay. Reddit.
People get too strung up on the goofiness of it. I like how it gets meta in places, like how Dala makes an offhand comment about how NPCs eventually say the same things over and over again. Its just the nature of how RPGs are made
B movies are only fun if they aren't too on the nose regarding self deprecation and pointing fingers at cliches, they have to be honest, OWB is the complete opposite of that. it never stops pulling its own finger and laughing at its own jokes.
It’s not reddit, the people that call it that are underaged tourist that saw penis fingers screenshots of it on r/fallout memes and that’s all they know. So when they came here they of course had to fit in and that means created exaggerated personas that despise anything that could be associated with reddit. So that means anything with lighthearted or whacky humor is now reddit and they’ll go on massive tirades and scream about how reddit it is and how everyone that likes it is reddit. All for the sake of trying to make it seem like they don’t go there and do all the shit they say they hate on a daily basis.
I've never understood people saying this is their favorite, it's so boring and unfunny and MT mountain or whatever area is the worst in the game
I like the weapons, Stealth Suit MK2, the player home and the sapient appliance. I like the idea of my 10 INT scientist Courier using the Big MT as his personal lab after the battle for Hoover Dam. I enjoyed exploring all the crazy areas. The cybernetic perks are based.
Everything else about it is pretty shit.
the perks are definitely useful, I'll give you that and the home it gives you is alright. Unfortunately the home is located there so I cleared it out before finishing the dlc because I knew there was no chance I'd ever go back
NV started fantastically with Honest Hearts, is absolute peak video games with Dead Money, and the last two were suddenly absolute trash. Ulysses will forever be a stain on the game.
Honest Hearts is great if you’re playing a cowboy-type, then it fits the western staple of becoming friends with Indians
>overpowered
I like falling into a deep hole of nativism where my character will start to wear dead horse armor and weapons and wonder if he even should go back to the mojave or just forever live and protect zion like a benevolent spirit, much like Randall Clark
Still better than Honest Hearts, that one is incredibly forgettable.
All of your DLCs are Rèddit, hell, your entire game is Rèddit. Burn in hell, FNVtrannies, your creator is a sodomite subversive israelitegolem.
Tim Cain didn’t work on NV you moron, lurk more
How does it feel to know that another studio came in, cleaned their shoes on Bethesda's faces and made a better fallout game than Bethesda ever will?
And then did nothing of worth for the rest of their existence
but their new game doe
Fun fact: this DLC was actually entirely community written by reddit
>Tim Cain didn’t work on NV you moron, lurk more
Sharty lost
Dead Money was, and is, the best NV DLC. Whiny homosexuals hated it because for 15 minutes their extremely overpowered character had to actually struggle again.
You starting from scratch isn't the issue, it's the fact that enemies are annoying and have infinite perception because of a bug, so Subsistence mode this is not. As well as the alarm shit that gets progressively more tedious.
The enemies were never an issue for me I just killed them and chopped them up.
Well I would like to stealth them but the bug they never fixed won't let me.
Has there ever been a mod for new vegas that makes grenades not bounce like like a tennis ball, defusing the grenade traps in dead money gives you buckets of them and they be good for blind destruction of radios if they weren't unusable because of the physics
Ganker is why you cant enjoy OWB anymore.
Did you learn that with SCIENCE!
Are you proving my point on purpose?
I still enjoy it because I don’t let some bitter teenagers tell me what I can and can’t enjoy. Why do you?
picture of my wife
ugh the school testing ground and stealth sequence are so fricking LONG, can't believe they made you repeat it 10 times
Yeah that became very grating.
for me, its about the body horrors and unethical medical science
I can't get over the face that the chunks of dead human meat look like from a completely different video game.
I wonder why they didnt let you tell Caesar that Graham is dead, they have dialogues for Veronica in DM.
given Graham's dialogue, it probably would have just angered him and he'd demand your head. A missed opportunity regardless, it would have been pretty funny to have it initiate combat
It'd be cooler if he just didn't give a shit about the ceasar larp and just called him Ed.
he does most of the time. you only get that dialogue if you antagonize him with high legion rep. he's talking to you on your terms.
He does? I don't remember that.
Nah, I think he calls him Caesar almost all the time, and the one time he calls him Edward, he corrects himself
I guess it makes more sense. Joshua is trying to distance himself from those events and from who he was. Caesar is Caesar because he embraced the larp, so Graham calls him that because he wants to distance Edward's actions as Caesar from the brilliant young Follower he knew
That's because Veronica's dialogue was actually cut content from the base game
Much like how everyone talks about Ulysses, he was cut content too
OWB lost any good will it might've had with me when it wasted like 30mins worth of ending slides on the wacky appliances. Unskippable btw. Entire factions have shorter slides in the basegame.
It's Chris Provolone's attempt a humor. Please understand, he can be a little...special, when it comes to that style of writing. Just see the sort of absolute bullshit he pulled with some of the trap dialogue choices in New Reno.
can't believe none of you gays have posted this yet
>traps are gay
Not only did i read it in his voice but i agree with his logic lol
Hehehehe
Boros was just funny man
He's like my second favorite psychopath
I really like the think tank members, they're overall better a relying the overall themes and tones of the DLC's message and have some good character moments, handing Gabe's Bowl back to Borus feels really memorable as you realize the personality trapped in the endless recursion cycle.
>This sensation is unpleasant, I don't care for it. I don't care for this place either. And... I feel... as if we've forgotten something..
Pure kino.
Mommy Dala makes me funny in the pants and that's why I'm giving Old World Blues a 9....out of 10.
You did side with Joshua and slaughtered all the White Legs, right?
>Slaughter shit tons of tribals left and right
>"Umm...ackshually, Joshua can you like...not kill General Gobbledyasiatic?"
>You're right, Courier. I see the error of my ways now. I'm a good boy now. *farts and cums*
This is why HH is pretty shit.
THIS FRICK I FRICKING HATED THAT SPEECH CHECK. It is at least half of the reason why nobody even knows what the point of Daniel as a character was.
The point was 'we need a light side choice'
The point was if you teach the tribals how to fight a proper total war, you have figuratively opened up Pandora's Box. It puts them on the path to a higher level of civilization, but they will achieve that path through violence and the annihilation of their enemies who stand in the way of the resources necessary to fuel that growth, much like Caesar's Legion or the NCR. Even though I disagree with Daniel, the very first lines of dialogue in the Fallout franchise (war never changes blah blah blah we kill each other for cool shit) are a testament to his position. So long as humanity has the capacity for violence against their fellow man, they will engage in it endlessly, leading to their own demise. Maybe if we never had that capacity in the first place, we could have a more ideal world. For Daniel, it is worth evacuating Zion to protect that, of course there are issues with this mindset, but the game doesn't even give the opportunity to really consider it because
>lol don't kill Gobbledeasiatic. Ogey I guess we only kill bad people now and would never harm good people because idk mercy or something.
is a solution to the problems in Zion.
>Slaughter shit tons of faceless henchmen left and right
>decide at the last moment to give mercy to the main bad guy because revenge is heckin bad or something
I hate that this moronic shitty trope is still around.
The problem is that most games with these choices are violent games, a good guy peacemaker option robbing the player of a large combat segment is seen as 'unfair'. It would be like if you could tell the Legate he cant est his weast BEFORE the dam fight.
You guys are missing the idea. It's not about how killing Gobledyasiatic is a bad thing, it's about showing Joshua that his approach to life being fire and brimstone isn't healthy, not to him as a guy that wants redemption from his violent past and to him as a person that cares about his soul.
Now, a lot of it is lost due to engine limitations, but the idea when attacking the White Legs is that Graham is killing fricking everyone, man, woman, child, sick, old, sleeping. They're a raider tribe, everyone that can raids together and the ones that can't stay behind at camp
You're not trying to convince him about the sanctity of life, you're trying to get him to realize there's more to him than violence and death
oh no you're killing evil people how bad
We should use the power of friendship to reform them instead, right?
Did you intentionally ignore what I wrote just to make such an unfunny reply?
The point is that you can clearly see Joshua is going full scorched earth and acting like killing people who already lost is somehow God's will.
It's why the White Legs still end up getting their asses kicked after you let them go, because it isn't about them, it's about Joshua.
Dan started a fight with me and then I had to kill Josh in self-defence.
>NUT
I like the Stealth Armor Mk.2 and wish there was porn of it.
Same, i love living clothes art.
Imagine installing an automatic fleshlight into her so she can massage your wiener while you're getting headshots on Super Mutant from half a mile away.
>Will you love me if I help you cum?
IMAGINE IT
>ooo good boy! Activating your reward!
With the power of AI voice acting, I want someone to make a mod that gives it an entire dialogue tree and romance so I can tenderly frick it.
Ulysses would really fricking hate the East Coast imo
>reject the bear
>reject the bull
>embrace the effervescent unity of the Nuka Cola Corporation and its subsidiaries
Kind unrelated but I wish the nuka world dlc actually let you do things in the parks once you concurred them. It really feels like the dlc stops right before it gets interesting
He'd actually make sense for once
>do you want pseudo-feudalism under the BoS
>or "freedom" under the minutemen
And then go ballistic about synths
tunneler threat should stem from the danger they pose to infrastructure, not power creeping Deathclaws - that shit was moronic.
Like, you already see the damage Tunnelers are capable of - if left unchecked - when you wander around that submerged city; the deathclaw scene was entirely unnecessary
True
Human sized termites is scarier than small deathclaws
Yeah. I think people didn't seem to get the actual danger Tunnelers posed. They're like termites or bedbugs. Just a few of them, and they start multiplying like crazy, if you don't kill them all, they come back. Even if you can keep them in check militarily, they are still destroying your infrastructure. They are like 40k orks.
tunnelers are locusts of fallout their danger is 100% not strength but the rate of propagation and reproduction and invasiveness
Honestly a threat bond to wipe out civilization once again would make more sense if it was like an army of super deathclaws or a Caculator's army 2.0 that cannot be stopped this time around.
This DLC is so HARD! I can't play it. The respawn is so annoying. I run out of ammo quick. The enemies are weak with skills I don't have.
Absolutely kills the exploration and vibe for me. I don't know what to do. I want to enjoy it.
This DLC doesn't allow me to play the way I want it and I think that is wrong, tbh.
What I want to know is why did they make alternative timeline split starting after WW2. Why not to use the real world?
I love being brain damaged
what mod is this?
the pipboy is pipboy 2500
the quest mod is Quest for Bees
Oh so its just from a quest mod, I thought maybe it was something that expands the idea of playing as a low INT Courier. Do you have to play as a low INT Courier? I usually play as an average or high INT Courier so it wouldn't make sense to have my character suddenly speak talking like that.
start talking*
>I thought maybe it was something that expands the idea of playing as a low INT Courier
I think there was a mod that did that. It rewrote the dialogue so that you always sounded stupid, kinda like that Skyrim mod that rewrote the options for Khajiit players to better fit their speech patterns
I think it's abandoned tho
And, tbf, even in the old games it was basically a very limited hard mode, since it excluded you from most quests
NV's is just some funny options here and there
What do you guys think happened to Vault 19? Everyone there was conditioned to be a schizo, yet there's no signs of mass slaughters or infighting.
Everyone is just... gone.
I feel like they just left, to escape the paranoia that the vault overseers were intentionally causing.
But they were so schizoid, there'd have to be some sort of revolution for the Overseer to let them out
Unpopular opinion but I think all of them are good, but have their flaws.
/v/'s criticism of the DLC are always very nitpicky. They have their flaws, but I wouldn't call them objectively bad.
I like OWB because I use the mad science mod so the entire DLC is basically my Courier's wet dream come true.
bro you playing new vegas on an N64?
It was a screenshot from my old toaster, even on my current PC I don't really use too many graphics mods or any ENB I don't really need them the game looks fine to me as it is.
I love those two
Dala is uhhhh. Something is wrong with that brain.
All of them have weird shit in their houses except Mobius
Also, Klein, though he's definitely an alcoholic
That house was weird, I rearranged the bears.
>chronic masturbator in need of some love surrounded by repressed nerds
Dr 8 was in the same boat but Dala wasn't a big fan of audioerotic asphyxiation.
It's worse than that
Dala has the teddies positioned as spectators in a catwalk full or mirrors (that she later broke). Her problem is that she was a frumpy asian nerd that desperately wanted to be a sexy bombshell men everywhere stop to gawk at
>Bimbofied Dr Dala
I will frick my sweet asian princess's sideways pussy
You guys will need some whiskey
Still would with the force of a thousand suns.
She was a chink?
>that is the reason for why everyone ignored her because she was chinese
It would make sense since Dr Klein was a hardcore oldworld nationalist and Dr Borous hated the reds with a burning passion. No wonder she got the cold shoulder.
>Nerds not having an asian girl fetish
Most unrealistic part of OWB tbqh
Surprised she wasn't in a concentration camp or smth
>heavy labcoat
>no makeup
she's not exactly trying here
she's breedable
I kinda dislike all of NV's DLCs for different reasons.
OWB just spams way too many a enemies in the overworld, absolutely tedious after a few hours.
When I originally played morrowind I had a million complaints and nitpicks but as the years went by and it was obvious morrowind was a high water mark I forgave all that shit and just liked what was good about it
But with new vegas it has never gone away, I still get annoyed at the things they fricked up more than I appreciate it
Its the funny DLC showing how far technology progressed and how moronic civilization got before it got blown up. It's a good DLC. It makes you feel lonely too and eager to get back to the wasteland. I like that.
I remember viciously jerking off to the woman robot brain and her sexy voice. I may be a little moronic.
Why would Bethesda get their shit together for the DLC? Remember these are the morons that figured an army dressed in sporting goods equipment armed with spears was more than a match for an army equiped with fully automatic weapons.
If you haven't learned how moronic Bethesda writing is by now you never will.
I love old world blues, you tryhards need to get a sense of humor and stop taking everything so seriously
Favorite weapons?
>take grenade launcher model
>add a moronic scope and some bits of scrap to it
>now it shoots magic techno boxes at people
How lazy were they?
The magic techno box fireball doesn't even do damage, it just adds a tiny DoT. The real damage is hitscan
I wish you could make a better version of the holorifle when you come back to the Mojave, like a normal pistol grip semiauto. The one in dm is just a jury rig Elijah made from a broken grenade launcher in a survival situation
I grab That Gun and start blasting the shit out of everything that gets in my way
until I need repairs
I like Annabelle and Mercy because explosives are fun.
L U C K Y
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>is useless by the time you can actually get enough lockpicking skill to get it thanks to the DT system
>is built entirely around scoring crits which ignore DT
It's in the fricking name
>just fire dozens of rounds with the slow reload hoping you'll get one shot that does crit damage among all the shots that do 0
>just forget that .357 mag still gets filtered by DT even with the meme rounds
>just forget that the game is balanced around ignoring over half the weapons thanks to the moronic fricking DT system
>moronic fricking DT system
You mean the amazing DT system
It's cool when armor actually works like armor, instead of a dampening field
Firing small rounds on armored plate isn't gonna penetrate no matter how many rounds you fire
>walking through the Fiend territory in APA with all the DT perks and cybernetic upgrades
>hailstones on concrete.wav
>autistic pacifist build, no killing humans, but also never use speech checks unless necessary
>download mod to actually make beanbags worth a damn
>pick up APA and every single DT increasing perk
>run around knocking people out with a cattle prod and beanbag rounds while shrugging off anything short of a mini-nuke
>dozens of rounds
Black person, if your plan is to get Lucky, then you are going for a crit build. You can easily get your crit rate up to like 15% and Lucky's crit rate multiplier is 2.5. You should be scoring a crit at least once every single reload, sometimes twice. On top of that, you will often be scoring a free crit from stealth. My nig, you can find videos of people clearing Quarry Junction with Lucky RIGHT NOW. And please eat a dick while you are at it, DT/DR is the GOAT
They actually implemented a dt like system in fallout 4. It has softer falloff than pure damage - DT but it's ultimately the same big damage penetrates smol damage bounces thing. But people are too stupid to notice
>what is Handloader and JFP rounds
>you can actually get enough lockpicking skill to get it
That's it's one big problem
You can get the very similar That Gun without much effort
Lucky is inexplicably locked in a high level lock in early game dungeon
>bump lockpicking up at the beginning
>use the magazine from the Goodsprings schoolhouse to supplement the skill further
>grab Lucky from the safe
>dingle dangle your way to New Vegas
Yeah it's great fun. With there were .44 single action revolvers in NV though. Or maybe that the normal .44s wouldn't suck.
It's a pistol, it's meant to be a secondary weapon, and a great secondary weapon it is. It's the single most accurate firearm handgun with the handloaded rounds.
Elijah's LAER is the one for me
Kek
But thats when Raul comes in
>hey boss lets go to my shack where I'll charge you full price to repair your items
I was talking about his perk. 75% less degradation makes it much more bearable to use
Oh right, I never use him so I completely forgot about that. Still it's moronic he charges full price though.
The man has to eat tbh. Can't be doing this level of work for free. Hes a expert in his field not a janny.
>The man has to eat tbh.
Should've hid in a fridge when the bombs fell, wouldn't have had to worry about anything
Vendor repair is broken in FNV, to the point where Repair is an obligatory skill
It costs like 5 times the price of the thing, Its insane
I have a mod that reduces it to a normal, 1x price
Its funny because they made the degradation system less ridiculous than fallout 3 but fricked it up anyway with repair costs being outrageous.
This. Raul just needs a fridge.
>fricked it up anyway with repair costs being outrageous.
Also a carry over from F3 iirc. I literally never play NV without jury rigging.
It wasn't as bad because the vendors kept the caps so you could sell the shit to get the money back whereas in new vegas the repairmen didn't sell anything so the only option was pick pocketing & in the case of raul the money disappeared entirely so that wasn't even an option with him.
>repair costs being outageous
you didnt make it out with the gold did you?
hivemind
>
Rick and Morty Blues sucks
i HATE THIS SHIT
i entered as soon as i could out of curiosity and was stuck 2 weeks here
it took me out of the game and made me hate it
>starting at an eye on a tv screen for an hour of dialogue at a time
defend this
Much better than Lonesome Road, that is the dogshit DLC. The one thing that drags OWB down is the fact that enemies are infinitely respawning bullet sponges on the overworld.
As much as I hate to say it, FNV desperately needed a challenging area that always scales with the player. You become a walking god by like level 15, and that's without trying.
>enemies are infinitely respawning bullet sponges on the overworld.
This is why I never beat it, I sat through the eternity of dialog & did the first quest & then loaded a save. To this day I've only ever beat honest hearts & that’s because I accidentally killed the friendly tribal right at the start & got to skip all the tedium of actually playing it.
Will you pick:
>a very useful and powerful perk for any melee build, especially ones with a high luck stat to boot
Or
>a fricking companion perk that doesn't even work with her tagged weapon type
Well?
To be honest I much prefer F4 style perks YOU get for maxxing out companion affinity. Mostly because the companions aren't very useful to begin with.
Pic related + Point Lookout > All NV DLC
Forgot pic related