>get this, it's a move... that clears the whole screen!! two different moves in fact!!! like every other fricking move in the genre!!!!!
I will never understand musougays
i thought rubber beating electricity was so cool. now it seemingly is just powerlevel shit
He's a reality warping gag character now, don't know how you only just found out, you missed out on so much delicious cope from one piece gays trying to defend it
>He's a reality warping gag character now
Which is cool, and a fresh take compared to the usual shonen protag that just gets yet another powerup where his beams are stronger and his movements faster.
Both of those are gag manga. Gintama makes fun of every other manga out there. The main protag even at some point used Final Zangetsu.
At the very least give me an example of an actual commercial shonen where power ups don't end up being stronger and faster. Hell, even JoJo and its asspulls is a valid answer.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>d-doesnt count
Both were published in weekly SHONEN jump. Next cope.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>show me a shonen that isnt a shonen
Have you thought that maybe you just don't want shonen manga?
>morons confidently avoiding the actual context to strawman
You think straight up like trannies and rich women.
Name a single battle shonen.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>show me a shonen that isnt a shonen
Have you thought that maybe you just don't want shonen manga?
10 months ago
Anonymous
So in your opinion a shonen needs to have their protag only getting stronger and faster, and any other way to get better or more versatile would make it a different genre?
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's a genre that is specifically built for the target demographic of pre-teen boys. By design it isn't supposed to have depth.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>shonen needs to be le hecking deconstruction
should the power up be they talk about their feelings like gays and women?
The form is kino you're just an edgegay, the explanation and retcon for the form is garbage.
and just play Grand Adventure it's the closest you'll get to a good OP game. Unless you like Musou kek.
It the armament haki that it's disgustig. Observation was good at Skypiea because it wasn't related to haki till the retcon. After that, evey character that has it, it never uses it except for some random plot points. Conqueror haki could have been acceptable but is still fricking lame
For me it was haki, so Sabaody, since that a lot of wrong choices made by Oda destroyed everything good of the first part
Became bad at Franky >Needless drama over the boat when Usopp was fine before, need a new guy instead of just training Usopp or something >Franky is a literally disgusting character >Ended up being a pointless inclusion, becuase just like Robin doing nothing, Chopper fixing the crew, Nami driving, etc, its just a given they're so talented they perfectly do everything off-screen anyways except the like 1 single time Nami struggled with the grand line >Then we get a skeleton who does nothing >Then we get a fish who does nothing >Crew is bloated to frick, but most of them do nothing or just do shit off-screen >Running gags and plotlines get boring; how many times does Zoro need to nearly die then instantly win or get lost >Everyone gets a powerup post-timeskip, but the big 3 are still the big 3, so nothing actually changed beyond degrading the monster form and adding the moronic plot point of the climbatact already being invented except better by a completely different group of people >Law joins, who, despite not even being part of the crew, is consistently more relevant and gets more screen time than the actual crew and has a power so broken the story has to be bent around it so he doesn't just instantly win but he's also a better doctor than chopper making him even more pointless >Also post time-skip chopper looks like shit >Also there's someone else who can read glyphs now, so Robin is even more pointless (an impressive feat given how worthless she is)
Its just bad decision after another beyond that point, the only real highlights were buggy and big mom who actually felt like a yonko level threat (unlike Kaido who was a ton of hype but kind of shit)
I basically dropped the series when they introduced Franky so that checks out for me. Also the manga paneling is absolute dogshit. Half of it is pages full of reaction faces.
My point is only hispanics care for DB, and when the last remant fans die no more new fans wiill appear. OP has new fans and is the most imporatn IP for toei rigth now. Just look at the anime of DB for the past years, oh wait!
Yes they changed their focus to only OP.
>Film >Muh spics
Still double the income of Troon Piss. Even without an anime
Man one cares for DB except the hispanics if you see the full report you can read that OP is doing really good everywhere and that only hispanics care for DB.
>Man one cares for DB except the hispanics if you see the full report you can read that OP is doing really good everywhere and that only hispanics care for DB.
DOUBLE THE INCOME
10 months ago
Anonymous
More people more income. Japan is not really know for their natality rate.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Cope
10 months ago
Anonymous
Nice rebutal man. Also as a Hispanic, I can tell you that no one cares for DB if they dont were born in the 90s preapre for irrelevancy in some years.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Cope
10 months ago
Anonymous
Cope
Double posting of how mad he is LMAO
10 months ago
Anonymous
Medd
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Admits he's a spic >Claims dragon ball is irrelevant >Still makes double the money
Dropped series shortly post time-skip because the skip was pointless and the series remained exactly as formulatic as before >Luffy fights big bad, nearly dies, but then just sort of doesn't OR loses once but they don't kill him, uses a new form pulled from ass to win >Zoro gets beaten to 0.000001% of his life bar, uses some new attack he's never used before this and never uses after to instantly win even if all prior moves did no real damage (after getting lost again) >Sanizzle my nizzle beats up a joke enemy >Ussop cries like a b***h and maybe shoots one dude >Every single other character in the overly bloated crew does nothing
I still love one piece but the Nika thing is an absolute asspull. thank God wano is almost over in the anime, im maximum sunken cost fallacy at this point.
How is it an asspull exactly? It perfectly fits with Luffy's character and has been foreshadowed and built up throughout the whole series.
The fruit being Zoan is the ass pull since Luffy could've still done this Awakening as a Paramecia and it still would've made complete sense narratively and thematically.
The general consensus at the time when G5 happened in the manga was that it was an asspull, but one Oda set up only recently. It was nowhere near foreshadowed as far back as people think.
Indeed it was only really foreshadowed in late stage of Wano. There are thematic hints before but they were not even close to being actual clues. The reveal was bad but the overall ability fits Luffy perfectly so I'm pretty neutral on it, have to see how it is used in the future.
I've been rewatching One Piece since last year with my wife and we just got to Big Mom's flashback in Whole Cake where the giants at Elbaph have a huge festival dedicated to the Sun which was a detail that completely slipped my mind. You could debate the Shandalyns (or whatever the tribal people of Jaya were called, frick if I remember) worshipping the Sun God was just a coincidence or not foreshadowing as Oda hadn't planned out Nika yet, but the Elbaph one definitely seems like a clear cut reference and that was years before the actual reveal. The Sun Tattoo for the Fishmen Pirates has also been around since Arlong Park and given the huge significance that Who's Who made of its symbology, that's also hard to write off as an unintentional thing.
The general consensus at the time when G5 happened in the manga was that it was an asspull, but one Oda set up only recently. It was nowhere near foreshadowed as far back as people think.
Why are people so resistant to the basic, easy idea Oda or anyone would just write an abstract at the start? I know Toriyama didn’t, but that doesn’t mean you have to lie to yourself no one else did. It’s not even hard. Chapter 1 Oda has it so Luffy has this goofy cartoon attack, it would almost be more difficult to do that without thinking ‘some day he’s going to just turn into a full cartoon, that’ll be his ultimate power’. There’s just no reason at all to believe Oda didn’t write an abstract out beforehand.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because if he had it planned since the beginning there would be some basic level of foreshadowing and not just a schizo plot dump device character laying out the twist 20 chapters before it happens.
10 months ago
Anonymous
meds
10 months ago
Anonymous
He could have detailed Nika more further ahead of time, but the concept and end point was always there. Either he delayed the foreshadowing due to distractions and too much other content, or the exact name ‘Nika’ which isn’t all that important he made up later to give form to the cartoon final form idea he always had
Though he did say Luffy dancing around the fire in the same silhouetted pose as ‘the ancient sun hero’ was the most important panel in the series so far, back in like 2004 in Skypeia
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because oda dumped the foreshadowing like 20 chapters before gear 5 through who's who
Oda just likes using the sun symbol, it's got nothing to do with foreshadowing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Oda just decided to write a thirty+ year magnum opus manga starring a pirate primarily concerned with happiness and freedom who has a rubber cartoon arm punch and who makes people laugh when he fights and frees slaves and causes a huge party by ending oppression everywhere he goes on his search to find the prime treasure which will as repeatedly stated change the world >there’s absolutely no way he meant for that guy to eventually become a cartoony god of liberation
moron alert
10 months ago
Anonymous
>he meant for that guy to eventually become a cartoony god of liberation
This is why Oda is redpilling his audience on the israelites. He's hoping to bring about a new Hitler!
10 months ago
Anonymous
>He's hoping to bring about a new H-ACK
10 months ago
Anonymous
Idk man, with how much Oda is known to plan out arcs and story beats in advance, it's hard for me to believe he'd include this Sun imagery everywhere in the manga constantly, link it to the idea of freedom, and not have a payoff in mind. In the end, none of us will ever know the truth unless Oda explicitly says it was a last minute thing, but your view is equally as valid as mine.
I think it might be like Haki where he didn't have the payoff fully fleshed out, but he knew he wanted to include it and so still laid the seeds out.
the Sun has been an important theme for the strawhats and specially Luffy for a while. it's no coincidence that their ship is the Thousand Sunny, that Luffy's outfits often have sun motifs, that the Sun is so important to the fishman, etc
but it's less of a foreshadowing and more of a consistent theme throughout the story. Luffy comes from the *East* Blue and goes from island to island getting rid of whatever oppression those people are under. he's the Sun bringing the dawn, slowly freeing the world from its darkness. this is a theme both for the individual arcs but also for the overarching plot of One Piece; Luffy defeating Arlong/Wapol/Crocodile/Doflamingo/Kaido and freeing those islands expands into Luffy defeating the World Government as a whole and freeing the world
10 months ago
Anonymous
I see your point that it's a thematic narrative rather than specifically foreshadowing, but overall it still goes to prove the point that I wanted to make which is that the Nika/Luffy connection isn't ab ass pull, but something that has been built up throughout the series. People denouncing Gear 5 specifically for that either haven't read the series or are just completely oblivious. I can understand being annoyed by the Zoan thing, but Gear 5 itself is just a perfect power up for Luffy and this manga specifically.
I don’t blame you, after timeskip takes a long time to get good if it even does. Fishman Isle was horribly done. Vegapunk’s island was also shit, they hyped it up and it didn’t reveal anything just some generic dragon and Cesar Clown. Now in the manga they’re actually doing a proper vegapunk island season and there’s actually Garp and Shanks and Blackbeard fights. One Piece always is shit for like 6 months, but then managed to have one chapter that’s amazing.
Can someone explain why this manga is so popular? I read (and watched) up to Water 7. I literally fell for the meme and I don't get it. The manga is generic like MHA or other shonenslop but when the technical narrative of a fight hits the same beats everytime like points out and when every single emotional moment (aside from Usopp and Luffy fighting) is just "muh nakama" every 40 pages I feel like I am missing something profound. Is the predictability and long-running format just a comfort blanket for nips at this point? Did a bunch of people just need a familiar setting to turn their brain off and consume on a weekly basis? I don't get why this is the most successful manga IP of all time.
With the scope of it's fanbase it's a bit beyond "it's just to some people's taste." Hate it or love it, most people can articulate why Dragonball manga and the DBZ show succeeded and where it put emphasis that other shows didn't. The only thing I hear about One Piece in this regard is "Oda's worldbuilding" because he will put a villian as a backgroubd character a few arcs before revealing them proper. That's not a strong enough novelty to hook an entire country though. What is so mesmerising about this series to people?
Appealing character designs, creative settings, huge scope, strong backstories, long-running mysteries, knows how to build hype, wasn't afraid to let the main characters fail (pre timeskip), does a good job keeping old characters and plots relevant (just not the main ones), usually good humor
Wano was being hyped up since Punk Hazard and it was very underwhelming. It felt like Oda wanted to forcefully create a magnum opus and something the manga community would remember for decades to come while simultaneously wanking off glorious Nippon. The entire thing took nearly a decade and it took One Piece from being a fun adventure where missions came and went to a streamlined mission across the New World.
>one of the few island nations in the world that straight up told the WG to get fricked >we finally get there after 15 years of hype >the legendary samurai turn out to be a group garden variety jobbers that need the strawhats to wipe their asses for them
cant wait for elbaf haha...
displayed the worst traits about the anime in one arc. how do you go from the kino that was whole cake island to this?
I've seen the same 5 frams of the festival in wano at least a hundred times over 30 episodes
i stopped watching the anime before you even discovered
but sure >unstoppable force of nature was amazing
yes , which was shit because how all that ended
i really do hate gear 5's design. i wish they kept the hair from when he was about to transform and incorporated a more black and white scheme to it instead of going all white.
The frick are you on about? We've already seen people lose with """"godfruits"""", you fricking moron. Sengoku and Yamato among them.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Fruit turns you into joyboy, the one hyped by roger and the story since the beginning >I-It's the same as sengoku and yamato!!!
Stop being fricking moronic for a minute will you?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Fruit turns you into joyboy
It most certainly doesn't, you fricking idiot. Again, you don't read this series, stop pretending like you do.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah ok, stop trolling now. Odadrones are so fricking pathetic
10 months ago
Anonymous
>get basic information wrong >UHHHHH, UR TROLLAN
Fricking lmao! I accept your concession.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You have one more post to bring up a good retort
Make it count
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's fricking metaphor, you total moron. Zunesha is countless miles away and feels an energy similar to his old friend. One of the primary themes in One Piece is inherited will. Luffy isn't Joyboy any more than Chopper is Hiruluk. The fruit doesn't turn you into another person. It gives the user's body rubber properties unless they live long enough and master it well enough to awaken it, at which point they get abilities inspired by the FICTIONAL sun god Nika. Noland and Calgara's story outright spells out for you that there are no actual Gods in the One Piece world.
That's all you'll be getting. Feel free to say "nuh uh", and continue being wrong.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>T-That's a metaphor!!! >Even though Zunisha recognised him!! >Even though Kaidou said the one who'd beat him would be joyboy!!!
Mindbroken and done. I'm counting on you to maintain the "that's all you'll be getting" thing although after getting so thoroughly BTFO, I wouldn't be surprised if you tried to come up with another pathetic argument.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>One of the primary themes in One Piece is inherited will. Luffy isn't Joyboy any more than Chopper is Hiruluk
This is one thing ESLs, speed readers, and animehomosexuals will never understand.
I don't give a shit about anime, but I'm assuming this is one piece version of super saiyans? with gear 1-4 being ssj 1 through whatever and 5 being the latest powercreep?
More or less. They're both sets of transformations. Though in Luffy's case it's more like: >Gear 2: Kaio-ken >Gear 3: Super Saiyan >Gear 4: Super Saiyan 2 >Advanced Haki (aka Onigashima): Super Saiyan 3 >Gear 5: Super Saiyan God
Those are piss poor comparisons given the multipliers, Super Saiyan alone exceeds any Gear.
What drives hispanics to seethe endlessly about this?
All of Luffy's transformations have a unique practical use until 4 that combines the last two. And even then gains a new aesthetic and technique usage.
SSJ is super lazy statchecks outside ultra and fusions. And the latter is rarely used anyway.
Gear 2 to 4 are all Kaio-ken. Joyboy is a shitty asspull with barely any foreshadowing and way too broken. It's like if Naruto kept his sage of six paths.
As someone who hates all this trash and doesn't have a gay dog in the fight the description of luffy's latest form is kino. Even better that it is mindbreaking autists that wank over power level crap. Having your protag develop 4th wall break abilites in a genre that is already a joke is fitting. I bet goku and his ilk are still stuck in semi serious gay muscle/ki/energy beancounter bs.
It’s a fair criticism of the series to say that most arcs are formulaic and repetitive but the recurring theme is always freedom or some kind of liberation. Having the MCs penultimate ability be total toon power freedom is absolutely kino.
>Luffy can turn his enemies into another style of animation >GUYS! LUFFY ISNT A GOD! >Luffy ate a GOD FRUIT >He isnt a god! Im telling you! >Luffy's powers were retconned to make him only think he couldnt swim and was just made of rubber when in reality he can basically do what he wants >HE ISNT A GOD THOUGH! AAAAAAA
That seems unlikely. Even a pseudo-god devil fruit form should logically be as weak to the ocean as any other.
Unless they whip out some clarification on what causes that weakness.
That is true, I forgot about that one for a moment.
I'm not sure, then. There could be a difference between fruit type and usage (Logia consciously using power vs. Mythical Zoan with lasting effects outside of transformation).
>Every scene getting elongated way past what they lasted in the manga wasn't just Toei cutting corners and milking chapters, it was Luffy's latent meta-powers "stretching" the narrative
HOLY KINO
>a weekly(ish) series with an ongoing anime has more relevance than a monthly series with no anime that was gone for 20 years and is currently recapping a movie in it's manga
yeah no shit
One Piece has better reception than Dragon Ball too. So that helps to get people interested in it over a series that essentially ended any decent narrative points and character development after the Cell Games, in 1993.
Majin Buu did the same thing already, don't know why OPgays insist the only people who dislike the form are fans of the series with similar concepts. Hunterchads are a group that actually rip One Piece apart.
He wasn't. And it doesn't activate on death. It's just a normal fricking devil fruit awakening. There were likely plenty of people that ate the fruit without awakening it, hence why it was never found by the government before Luffy awakened it.
It does activate on death because that's how we saw it activate, it didn't activate for any of those other people because they weren't the chosen one, the fruit was just using them to evade capture until Luffy was born.
Black person, 100% of what you just posted is either a blatant lie or total conjecture.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Prove it, show the moment someone else awakened the nika fruit.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Joyboy. Now show me a moment when death awakened the fruit even once, since it didn't happen to Luffy. Show me where it was written that Luffy is some unbeatable chosen one, since he was already beaten multiple times. Show me how the fruit was evading the government without a human being carrying or eating it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Joyboy
Well? I'm waiting for the page that shows him awakening it without dying.
>it didn't activate for any of those other people because they weren't the chosen one
Care to prove that?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, Luffy is the chosen one and it activated for him.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Luffy is the chosen one
Gonna need some proof.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Read Wano, it's all there in black and white.
10 months ago
Anonymous
There was only one known joyboy before him
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, Luffy is the chosen one and it activated for him.
There's still only 1 joyboy. Joyboy was a person who awakened the nika devil fruit. You discord raiders are nuts.
10 months ago
Anonymous
https://youtu.be/TUU9PEL6P58
You have one more post to bring up a good retort
Make it count
10 months ago
Anonymous
Read the response to the post you linked.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>T-That's a metaphor!!! >Even though Zunisha recognised him!! >Even though Kaidou said the one who'd beat him would be joyboy!!!
Mindbroken and done. I'm counting on you to maintain the "that's all you'll be getting" thing although after getting so thoroughly BTFO, I wouldn't be surprised if you tried to come up with another pathetic argument.
Luffy should be able to just dickflatten kizaru and I will be really frustrated when he can’t
You’re tellin’ me that the light fricker was afraid of a second in command to shanks but not to the man that beat kaido? the strongest man on the planet????
Oh boy here come the powerlevelcucks >uh well acktually this character beat that character in a fight, which means that character should automatically beat that other character, which is exactly how things work because all conflicts are just numbers pushed against each other and the bigger one wins
Pirates of the Caribbean (the movies)
Once Upon a Time (it has pirates)
Treasure Island in Outer Space
Caraibi
Blackbeard
Honorable mention: The Pirates! Band of Misfits (movie)
That's pretty cut and dry. >there are so many strong people in this world >even if they want to help, they don't know how, because living a life of strength has made them alien from those of us who suffer >if only there was a way the weak could guide that strength
>I'm tired of being small and weak >if only I could just temporarily take over the bodies of my huge strong friends, with their permission of course >man, we'd be unstoppable
Sanji is just a whatever character, his dream is about cooking and is just the 3rd strongest because he's attractive. It's much more egregious with Luffy because his whole dream is about freedom but now he's just been fated to be the chosen one since the beginning.
yeah.
Him accidentally blowing up his castle (don't know if it is his, didn't play the game) or something else he holds dear and then first drunkly crying about it, before he drunk rages and destroyes half Hyrule.
How much longer than Arlong Park is it worth it to read OP? I just finished that last night and some of the descriptions in this thread of late one piece don't sound stellar. I hope this isn't just homestuck for weeaboos.
don't let shitposters shape your opinion. you still haven't read One Piece's best arcs, and even though they haven't been as good lately the worldbuilding keeps getting more and more interesting as the series progresses
Remember that Crocodile is Luffy's biological mom. This shit is crazy but if you check how people explain that theory, all of this shit literally makes fricking sense.
>But crocodile is a guy wtf?
Today Crocodile is a 100% male. But most likely in past Crocodile was a woman. The clue about that is his relation with Ivankov, Ivankov knows important secret about Crocodile's past and in impel down he blackmailed crocodile that he will Reveal his secret to keep him in check. One of Ivankov fruit powers allows him to fully change other people's biological sex i mean from 100% man to 100% woman and vice versa. Most likely that secret was that he was a woman in past so it makes sense that ivankov knows that secret.
Not to mention Ivankov is a member of Revolutionists and directly knows Dragon(Luffy's dad), that means Crocodile in past as a woman was either member of Revolutionists or at least had some relations with members, that means there was a posibility that "Crocomom" got impregnated by Dragon.
>But in Alabasta arc Crocodile almost killed luffy.
That doesen't disprove that theory. Most likely Luffy got separated from his parents very early, probably without even giving him name. And at some moment when luffy was under Garp's care Crocodile changed his identify (Unknown reason).
That means Crocodile had no idea what really happened to kid he gave birth to when he was a woman. And in Alabasta Crocodile had no idea about Luffy's true identify (At this moment Crocodile seen him as just annoing pirate messing with his plans) thats why Crocodile wanted to kill Luffy.
Marineford is the last piece of that puzzle. If someone seen, Crocodile was acting strange by really assisting and helping Luffy during that, that normally wont make sense because Crocodile had no reason to assist someone who screwed him over in Alabasta.
But there is one important thing, during Marineford marines officially announced that Luffy is Dragon's son. At that moment Crocodile realized that Luffy is his son from his female past. From that moment he remembered what he did to his own Son during Alabasta and he felt Remorse that motivated him to actually Help Luffy. THe main hint is that scene
Mihawk after being blocked by crocodile asked him why he went into his way, Crocodile just said that he is not in best mood right now, most likely remorse for shit happened in Alabasta hit him.
They exist but as always the writer can just write another thing to make the drawback vanish. Like in Dragonball characters can actually die since they are relatively easy to bring back to life, HxH you can just basically make wishes to a genie etc.
kaioken in the saiyan saga basically took out goku for half of the remaining fight despite making him win at first
Luffy has NEVER won outright with his initial power up. Blueno is the only straight win he ever got while powering up against an opponent. G5 just barely matched Kaido, who by the way, has been fighting for the last 100 episodes, snakeman TIED with katakuri, both g2 and g3 got smoked by lucci, and then he just barely tied, and finally G4 got smoked and outlasted by doffy who fricked up when he got agroed on everyone in the country and was forced into a r ound two.
okay but none of the drawbacks that they mention about those forms matter, like in the kaido fight when he gets old or some shit he just recovers from it immediately, G4 bounceman is the only i can think of that matters but it kinda just stalls the doffy fight until he can punch him again
The characters in Kimetsu no Yaiba died young when they activate their slayer mark, though most of them just die during the final battle, and the surviving ones just die off screen after the series ended.
>so shit it shortens Goku's free 24 hours on earth >so shit it shortens Gotenks' 30 minute fusion limit >so shit Goku can't keep up with the energy drain once he has a living body again
I dropped the manga right before Zoro vs Pika fight, did I miss something good? I felt the manga was redundant af, every single arc story went the same, did it change?
>be kiku >lose arm >monologue about how the melting of the lingering snow signifies the coming of the dawn >survive anyway >be izo >get fingered >die off screen
One Piece was one of those few rare shounen that kept it cool and consistent but since the time timeskip is just went to shit. If I remember correctly the Gear stuff was something unique to him because of his elastic body he could force it to pump blood faster or some shit and momentarily become stronger now he turns into a god that can do anything and even the clothes changes color for no reason ala Naruto. How quaint.
ISTEN SHANKS BUDDY BOYO. I AM NOT THE ONE TO FULFILL THE ONE PIECE. I AM MISSING SOME GOOFY ASS MYTHICAL ZOAN FRUIT THAT IS UNDER A NEW NAME. ALSO SOME MERMAID b***h NEEDS TO BE BORN AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE DUDE WHO WILL EVENTUALLY BE CHOSEN BY THE FRUIT BECAUSE THAT FRUIT IS A ZOAN AND AS WE ALL KNOW ZOAN FRUITS HAVE A MIND OF THEIR OWN. ANYWAYS THAT SAME FRUIT WAS USED BY NON OTHER THAN JOYBOY HIMSELF. I REACHED THIS ISLAND DESPITE MISSING SO MUCH BULLSHIT ITS LAUGHABLE.
SHANKS WHY ARE YOU CRYING? YOU DONT LIKE THE PROPHECY LEFT BY JOYBOY? YOU JUST AN EDGEgay SPEEDREADER.
You want my treasure? You can have it! BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE THE GRANDSON OF MY BUDDY, THE HERO OF THE MARINES, GARP, WHOSE SON WILL BECOME THE MOST DANGEROUS REBEL IN THE WORLD, WHO WILL ALSO HAVE SEX WITH THE SECRET MOON-GODDESS OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT: IM, AND GIVE BIRTH TO "MOON KEY DEVIL LAUGHY", THE REINCARNATION OF THE ANCIENT STRAW-CROWNED DEVIL REBEL KING JOYBOY, AND DESIGNER-BABY HOST OF THE SUN GOD NIKA, WHOSE DISEMBODIED SOUL HE WILL HOUSE BY EATING THE FRUIT THAT IT WAS PLACED INSIDE OF BY THE KINGDOM OF DEVILS, THE HUMAN-HUMAN MODEL: NIKA MYTHOLOGICAL ZOAN FRUIT, IN ORDER TO ONE DAY DESTROY "GOD", WHICH IS THE WORLD GOVERNMENT, FORMED BY SPACE PIRATES WHO INVADED THE EARTH THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO FROM THE MOON. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT MY UNDERLINGS, THE SOON-TO-BE YONKO SHANKS, WHO IS A celestial DRAGON SPY, AND THE DARK KING RAYLEIGH, WHO IS SECOND ONLY TO ME IF NOT EQUAL IN POWER, TO SEEK HIM OUT AND GIVE HIM HIS STRAW CROWN AND DRAW OUT HIS INNER ABILITIES TO BRING ON THE GLOBAL REVOLUTION! OR MAYBE THEY WON'T! IT DOESN'T MATTER EITHER WAY, HE'S GONNA DO ALL OF THAT WITHOUT ANYONE HELPING HIM BECAUSE IT'S ALL DESTINED TO HAPPEN! HE'S A PUPPET OF FATE, YOU SEE!
COME GET MY TREASURE, LAUGHY!!! I LEFT IT THERE JUST FOR YOU!!!!
MY MOST BITTER REGRET IS THAT I WASN'T BORN LATE ENOUGH TO SUCK YOUR DIVINE wiener AND DRINK YOUR SUN JUICE!!!!
Whitebeard could have gotten it but he didn't give a shit about it, same goes for Big Mom who just wanted to play with her multiracial family project, Kaido was doing his gay SMILE shit and Shanks also never cared about it.
Most of them only started to care when the worst generation started to come knocking on their doors.
Kaido anally fricked him so hard that he lost all of his crew and then he decided to sit in the easier first half of the grand line and live off killing weak pirates.
>You are sitting in the aquarium room of Sunny >Robin is there, reading something archeology related >She glances at you and smiles gently. >You get a sudden taste of flower petals in your mouth and she looks strained. >Robin had just bloomed her anus on the roof of your mouth and is shitting down your throat while trying to act calm and collected.
their is a tendency for any long running shounen to become DBZ the longer it runs, naruto managed to do it a lot quicker than one piece, which made me think that the theory might not be sound, but thankfully oda decided to do this shit, thank god.
Egghead is amazing so far and if you're a fan that got turned off by Wano (whether by its length or being upset with fights or whatever) I'd suggest getting caught up again because it really has been kino chapter after kino chapter.
Also, a hot take maybe, but I feel like post timeskip could really benefit on another Long Ring Long style arc that focuses purely on crew interactions. Ever since Punk Hazard, the Straw Hats have all been split up or attention spent on building up the samurai plot that there hasn't been a good stretch of us just seeing the crew have fun with each other. It feels like it's been ages, and especially with a new crew member being added the story could really benefit. Unfortunately it probably won't happen since Oda clearly wants to end the series and people now complain so much when there aren't action packed chapters which is a shame. My favorite One Piece moments have always been the impactful character moments over the action stuff such as Luffy giving Nami his hat in Arlong Park, Chopper's exit from Drum, Toto digging in Alabasta, Robin exploring ruins in Skypiea plus her I Want to Live speech, etc. To me that's always been the heart of the series.
This lmao. It’s fine not liking or not reading it, but the shit people make up to try and shit on it just because they see something is happening in a show they’re not involved in, is fricking hilarious
How much longer than Arlong Park is it worth it to read OP? I just finished that last night and some of the descriptions in this thread of late one piece don't sound stellar. I hope this isn't just homestuck for weeaboos.
Read until you’re bored. It’s a hate thread, don’t let people who aren’t even reading bum out a good time you’re having. Just read until you don’t want to anymore
Gear 5 luffy is fricking great. Edgeshitters just mad.
ALso people mad over that luffy has way less challenges to overcome and shit like it used to be in early one piece. Simply Luffy gets all tools to overcome challenges placed in front of him dyuring his journey, and every challenge he overcomes, he becomes stronger and more "Clever" and maybe getting new tools into his hand. Now Luffy is at like Endgame where basically he overcame Yonko wall, At this moment Oda will just slowly reveal all secrets left and Luffy gets to One piece and its end.
And rubberhose animation powers is fricking awesome and literally fits luffy, like luffy goes full luffy with that powers. He acheives ultimate Luffy
I want to see Gear 5 luffy beating all other bads including akainu, i want to see Akainu getting cartonish beating and making stupid faces because of that.
>Zoomies are calling this jumbled mess the pinnacle of animation
Tom and Jerry can get just as chaotic while being cohesive. This is just lazy dragon ball z with a couple extra frames here and there.
Glad I dropped this shit. I'm not gonna live long enough to reach the end of this shit. I'm still glad I read Thriller Bark which was peak One Piece. Nothing comes even close to that arc.
>toon force
Bugs bunny turning a stop sign is toon force. The roadrunner running through a painted path is toon force. Ed's godlike strength and Eddy's ability to defy the laws of physics is toon force. Hell, Arale being able to school Goku and Vegeta is toon force. Overpowered shonen nonsense isn't toon force.
Turning into a balloon inside of someone and flinging then around so their eyes pop out and jumping them like rope is cartoony. Get a grip
And it’s a fricking meme anyways, a way for needy gays to ape the name of The Flash’s power to pretend Tom and Jerry are superheroes. No need to be such a particular b***h about it. I can’t believe youve put yourself in a situation to say ‘uh Naruto doesn’t have the same powers as daffy duck’ like it offends you with a straight face
They’re gays too. You and them are both being the same type of moron playing ‘who would win droopy dog or jotaro’, I swear none of you have the ability to just take something for what it is without making yourself twice as stupid as someone else just because you think they’re moronic too
Goku can't damage Luffy. Physical hits don't do anything and with his reality bending toonforce he can turn the air into rubber to deflect any energy attack.
Anon, Gear 5 was being damaged by Kaido who is weaker than beggining of OG Dragon Ball Roshi. Current Goku literally doesn't even have to transform. Even if you want to be autistic like you, Goku has hakai and mafuba. Luffy loses either way.
One Piece hasn't been good for like 15 years now. I don't care about the series but it's still funny just how much of a trash fire it has become. Especially with people investing decades into this shit, watching 1100 episodes of absolute dogshit with 5 minutes of content split over several different characters per episode if you're lucky.
This shit is real, though it’s going to be because of a polar shit. The world is sideways right now, it will rotate 90degrees causing the ocean swell to shift with the equator, displacing the oceans to reveal new, old continents.
Lode Star Island and Road Star Island are the same island, Gol D Roger was looking right at the location of the One Piece when he spoke at his execution in Loguetown. ‘It’s right there, like right there, but you’re going to have to turn the world upside down to get it’
>SIX HOURS AND TWENTY FIVE MINUTES >not even made by the same person
this is like those monkey torture videos where there's no natural explanation for why they exist
I've been reading One Piece for the past month and just finished Enies Lobby. I'm not really reading these threads because I'm sure there are spoilers, but I feel like the series will probably never be as good as this again, even if I still probably ultimately end up enjoying the rest anyway.
Those arcs fricking rule but you’re also about to go right into like 4 consecutive top tier arcs from there. You don’t even know. And there’s stuff just as good now
>but I feel like the series will probably never be as good as this again
It won't, though the next saga comes close and the second half of the series has its moments
I basically dropped the series when they introduced Franky so that checks out for me. Also the manga paneling is absolute dogshit. Half of it is pages full of reaction faces.
make it readable and let the action flow with the panels. good paneling guides the reader's eyes naturally through the page. simple is often best
Dragonball was really good at this, specially by cheating with energy beams and flight trails that give a clear indication of movement
>cheating
I appreciate the answer but action lines and visible movement is by no means cheating, it’s the game itself. I feel like people are so cynical about these things
Dude, I was being ironic. Toriyama was built different when it came to drawing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Alright, no worries then. Just bothers me how some people love all this stuff but they think they’re being ‘better more right fans’ by just talking pointless shit
toriyama is an admitted lazy frick who never cared about the shit he made
10 months ago
Anonymous
He is a humble bastard who’s so good at what he does he can wing it and blow it off in conversation
10 months ago
Anonymous
Misconception actually. He does care, he simply doesn't put much thought into it. He writes what he considers fun.
holy cope deluded spics
10 months ago
Anonymous
It is not cope. You have many interviews with Toriyama where he expresses how he enjoys writing what he considers fun.
10 months ago
Anonymous
He made one of the most popular beloved manga of all times simply by knowing how to draw impact on paper, and doing it. I know there’s this impulse to intellectualize everything, but manga is largely sensational, or at least Dragonball succeeded wildly for simply achieving sensation and impact every chapter. How backwards are you that you think it’s an error or failure that the guy who produces the strongest impact in drawings fastest, made the most beloved manga. This shit is simple, that’s all it needs to be
10 months ago
Anonymous
>schizo rant
hope he see this bro
10 months ago
Anonymous
Ok lmao please go on acting like some of the best selling comics of all time are just lazy mistakes
10 months ago
Anonymous
Toriyama doesn’t like drawing he admits it himself homosexual it’s called a job and he likes money. That’s why he coasts off his cashcow.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>speaking headcanon
Atleast do some research moron. Toriyama loves writing and drawing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
And he does it right. So what? People come for drawing of serious action and that’s what they get. What’s the problem?
>spictards getting absolutely ass blasted
AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
10 months ago
Anonymous
And he does it right. So what? People come for drawing of serious action and that’s what they get. What’s the problem?
10 months ago
Anonymous
check'd
10 months ago
Anonymous
How is that a cope? Toriyama made one of the most iconic mangas ever, his artstyle is still being used in Dragon Quest, he worked on Crono Trigger. He also worked on Blue Dragon, which also got an anime. Sand Land is also getting a movie and a game. Dude has done it all.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I like toriyama but his shit is justly boring beyond le paneling and Le impacted into you hispanics keep repeating. And I still see people shit on his artstyle same face etc.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>reddit speak >"le"
Right, you "love" Toriyama.
10 months ago
Anonymous
kneel spic
10 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but how much of a newbie are you?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>it doesn’t matter that the super popular action comic has action in it even though i say it has nothing else
This is just stupid thinking
10 months ago
Anonymous
It’s has nothing beyond that yeah lmao and it got MUCH worse after freiza
10 months ago
Anonymous
It doesn’t need much more than what it has to be what it is, successful and great action people buy for what it is
10 months ago
Anonymous
And I agree I enjoy it for what it was and moved in. It just doesn’t offer much besides that and I found OP in 2003 and it far surpassed it because Oda actually enjoys what he does and it’s obvious.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I just wouldn’t call any of it hate from Toriyama
10 months ago
Anonymous
Misconception actually. He does care, he simply doesn't put much thought into it. He writes what he considers fun.
10 months ago
Anonymous
This, yet morons think they’re clever because it’s not more stress than it needs to be
Dude, objectively speaking, Toriyama's panelling is matched by only a few mangakas and Oda is not one of them. He may be a better writer, but his drawings are ass compared to Toriyama.
Because Koei, Arksys, CC24 and others all run massive businesses slotting manga into solved genres of gameplay. It’s a pretty sensible strategy to be honest. Just have one serviceable sellable type of game and repeatedly adapt an extremely popular form of media into them over and over.
>Let's all imagine how Oda would draw this simple page.
Would be a fun edit >everything crushed in >ever other character in the scene adding pointless commentary >wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords >some other unrelated scene in the corner >everything so jumbled you have no idea how to read it first time >break next week
Seriously so many people are holding on to these rotten juvenile ides they borrowed from other people twenty years ago when they were 11. ‘Toriyama doesn’t put what’s needed into his comics and he hates it all’ what idiotic things to think late into life
I read Dragonball and it’s a ton of great panels of action. His interviews literally show he likes to draw and he likes his career at least as much as anyone who works for a living, knows what they’re doing and is good at it. What’s the problem
I’m glad simple minded spica such as yourself are content
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I don’t hate him I love db, dq, sandland it just doesn’t have the same care and effort beyond his artistic talent
And I would say the art and action is MORE than just enough, it’s the core content of the entire medium. It is what manga is, Toriyama just saw that clearly
10 months ago
Anonymous
It is not only the core of the manga medium, it is the core of Dragon Ball. Each fight is a clash of ideals and philosophies.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Right, the guy did the most pure and exceptional job in manga by knowing that’s the focus and pointing everything towards that. Concise storytelling of these pulp elements is appropriate.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, that is how he wanted to tell the story. It is simple, yet effective.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Emphasis on the simple VERY VERY SIMPLE…perhaps dare I say too simple
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why complicate the most clear and exciting action of its time? The directness and simplicity are just focused concise action writing, and minimal stress over less important things. How many obstacles do we need to put between the audience and the Kung Fu drawings they pay for?
10 months ago
Anonymous
It stopped being kung fu and early dragon all had interesting shit happening besides PUNCH PUNCH FLY BLAST a very long time ago homosexual and that’s why it went to shot
10 months ago
Anonymous
You have to realize that simple doesn't mean that it is bad. Also, while it is simple, it is not too simple. It is a neverending story of self-improvement. No grand adventure, no title to reclaim, no treasure to find. It is something that everyone can relate to. Trying to better yourself, good vs evil, alien vs human, old vs young, those are all things in which Dragon ball is at its best.
10 months ago
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sage
You would say that because that’s all it has going for it and we can all tell your a simple minded Hispanic lmaooo
10 months ago
Anonymous
I’m saying that because it succeeded doing just that, yeah. I am literally agreeing with you Dragonball excels squarely in action
10 months ago
Anonymous
It did up till namek and then I really over stays it welcome. Sandland is much better because it isn’t just gay fight autism
Webm + more specials for the new Luffy:
https://twitter.com/onepiece_games/status/1689305724248018944
twitter.com/onepiece_games/status/1690052974238670853
>Sky Type
It's over.....................................................
Thanks bro.
>get this, it's a move... that clears the whole screen!! two different moves in fact!!! like every other fricking move in the genre!!!!!
I will never understand musougays
What else should the special do for a fightgay character?
Bceuase it's fun. Stop trying to look further for some kind of deep meaning. It's like a fricking punching bag, it's fun to hit.
what the frick is this super Saiyan?
He's a reality warping gag character now, don't know how you only just found out, you missed out on so much delicious cope from one piece gays trying to defend it
The only cope here is yours and it's so bitter you're choking on it
>He's a reality warping gag character now
Which is cool, and a fresh take compared to the usual shonen protag that just gets yet another powerup where his beams are stronger and his movements faster.
Read more shonen, Bobobo and Gintama have existed for decades.
Both of those are gag manga. Gintama makes fun of every other manga out there. The main protag even at some point used Final Zangetsu.
At the very least give me an example of an actual commercial shonen where power ups don't end up being stronger and faster. Hell, even JoJo and its asspulls is a valid answer.
>d-doesnt count
Both were published in weekly SHONEN jump. Next cope.
>morons confidently avoiding the actual context to strawman
You think straight up like trannies and rich women.
Name a single battle shonen.
>show me a shonen that isnt a shonen
Have you thought that maybe you just don't want shonen manga?
So in your opinion a shonen needs to have their protag only getting stronger and faster, and any other way to get better or more versatile would make it a different genre?
It's a genre that is specifically built for the target demographic of pre-teen boys. By design it isn't supposed to have depth.
>shonen needs to be le hecking deconstruction
should the power up be they talk about their feelings like gays and women?
Didn't the MC from Medaka Box get a reality warping final power-up?
Maybe the reason people don't do it usually is because it's shit?
nah real one piece fans love the power up but hate the execution, making him le destiny man is 100% hackda writing
>making him le destiny man is 100% hackda writing
Pretty sure it was a "journey of destiny" from chapter 1. Just saying.
Shirahoshi. <3
how is this not just dbz lmao
i thought rubber beating electricity was so cool. now it seemingly is just powerlevel shit
The eventual downfall of all neverending shonens.
Should have wrapped this shit up 15 years ago
Pretty sure that gigavolt attack would be more than enough to beat rubber
Shonen sucks
>t. shonenspic
WTF Black person MODE??????
There will never be a good One Piece game and this form sucks.
There is one. It's called Grand Battle Rush
The form is kino you're just an edgegay, the explanation and retcon for the form is garbage.
and just play Grand Adventure it's the closest you'll get to a good OP game. Unless you like Musou kek.
>The form is [cope] and you're [projections out of nowhere]
embarassing game, embarassing retcon, embarassing series since the timeskip
General 5 mindbroke you
Couldn't even break the internet let alone 10 posts without us coming in to give you a reminder little moe b***h
Why are DBSpics so mindbroken by 1Peace?
Manga and anime still published/aired.
Drag my balls? Dead and buried
Black vs Latino race war
come to the superman threads on Ganker they'll seethe about any character on some level of strength or popularity to goku. Spixs calm down
keep sucking Oda balls moron
>implying I've ever read or watched One Shit to know what you're talking about
cope and seethe Hispanic gear 5 belongs in the trash
Wrong, it became bad a lot before than time skip
For me it was haki, so Sabaody, since that a lot of wrong choices made by Oda destroyed everything good of the first part
It didn't ruin things right away. After all, it's first substantial usage was in Skypiea and that arc is great.
It the armament haki that it's disgustig. Observation was good at Skypiea because it wasn't related to haki till the retcon. After that, evey character that has it, it never uses it except for some random plot points. Conqueror haki could have been acceptable but is still fricking lame
Became bad at Franky
>Needless drama over the boat when Usopp was fine before, need a new guy instead of just training Usopp or something
>Franky is a literally disgusting character
>Ended up being a pointless inclusion, becuase just like Robin doing nothing, Chopper fixing the crew, Nami driving, etc, its just a given they're so talented they perfectly do everything off-screen anyways except the like 1 single time Nami struggled with the grand line
>Then we get a skeleton who does nothing
>Then we get a fish who does nothing
>Crew is bloated to frick, but most of them do nothing or just do shit off-screen
>Running gags and plotlines get boring; how many times does Zoro need to nearly die then instantly win or get lost
>Everyone gets a powerup post-timeskip, but the big 3 are still the big 3, so nothing actually changed beyond degrading the monster form and adding the moronic plot point of the climbatact already being invented except better by a completely different group of people
>Law joins, who, despite not even being part of the crew, is consistently more relevant and gets more screen time than the actual crew and has a power so broken the story has to be bent around it so he doesn't just instantly win but he's also a better doctor than chopper making him even more pointless
>Also post time-skip chopper looks like shit
>Also there's someone else who can read glyphs now, so Robin is even more pointless (an impressive feat given how worthless she is)
Its just bad decision after another beyond that point, the only real highlights were buggy and big mom who actually felt like a yonko level threat (unlike Kaido who was a ton of hype but kind of shit)
>hating Franky
moron, don't even bother reading all your shit
Franky was based but his moronic post-timeskip desing is shit.
Based and correct
The goofy stuff was always kind of in the background but when the skeleton and Frankly joined I was out
The tonal shifts are all over the place if you compare the mood and story from the early chapters to what we have now
I basically dropped the series when they introduced Franky so that checks out for me. Also the manga paneling is absolute dogshit. Half of it is pages full of reaction faces.
Let's not forget this franchise can't sell merch
its nice to see you all investors cry about franchises selling or not selling
yes you aren't alone in the world
shocking right?
El projectiono
Bro in your image OP beat DB in domestic and overseas film. The hispanics by themselves buy DB shit and keep afloat your IP.
Dude should have probably inlcuded merchandising too.
My point is only hispanics care for DB, and when the last remant fans die no more new fans wiill appear. OP has new fans and is the most imporatn IP for toei rigth now. Just look at the anime of DB for the past years, oh wait!
Yes they changed their focus to only OP.
Man one cares for DB except the hispanics if you see the full report you can read that OP is doing really good everywhere and that only hispanics care for DB.
>IESLB
>claiming all that while Dragon Ball makes double the money without an anime
You okay?
>Man one cares for DB except the hispanics if you see the full report you can read that OP is doing really good everywhere and that only hispanics care for DB.
DOUBLE THE INCOME
More people more income. Japan is not really know for their natality rate.
Cope
Nice rebutal man. Also as a Hispanic, I can tell you that no one cares for DB if they dont were born in the 90s preapre for irrelevancy in some years.
Cope
Double posting of how mad he is LMAO
Medd
>Admits he's a spic
>Claims dragon ball is irrelevant
>Still makes double the money
Cope
>everybody is le Hispanic
Well you’re frickin wrong
>Film
>Muh spics
Still double the income of Troon Piss. Even without an anime
One Piece of Shit is fricking cringe
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFRICK SHART piss.
seethe harder why don't you
I'm not the one who has to defend this garbage for free on the internet lol
Dropped series shortly post time-skip because the skip was pointless and the series remained exactly as formulatic as before
>Luffy fights big bad, nearly dies, but then just sort of doesn't OR loses once but they don't kill him, uses a new form pulled from ass to win
>Zoro gets beaten to 0.000001% of his life bar, uses some new attack he's never used before this and never uses after to instantly win even if all prior moves did no real damage (after getting lost again)
>Sanizzle my nizzle beats up a joke enemy
>Ussop cries like a b***h and maybe shoots one dude
>Every single other character in the overly bloated crew does nothing
KINO
you forgot
>the anime stretches one manga page to 20 minutes anime
>watching anime adaptations
Zoro just put some zen philosophy move out of his ass to win a battle where he is trashed until the end
I was rooting for King to win, Zoro's gotten extremely lame.
>character almost loses but then they win
You're a genius and I'm impressed it only took you 600 chapters to pick on this.
I still love one piece but the Nika thing is an absolute asspull. thank God wano is almost over in the anime, im maximum sunken cost fallacy at this point.
How is it an asspull exactly? It perfectly fits with Luffy's character and has been foreshadowed and built up throughout the whole series.
The fruit being Zoan is the ass pull since Luffy could've still done this Awakening as a Paramecia and it still would've made complete sense narratively and thematically.
The general consensus at the time when G5 happened in the manga was that it was an asspull, but one Oda set up only recently. It was nowhere near foreshadowed as far back as people think.
>It was nowhere near foreshadowed as far back as people think.
Its been awhile since dressrosa tho.
Indeed it was only really foreshadowed in late stage of Wano. There are thematic hints before but they were not even close to being actual clues. The reveal was bad but the overall ability fits Luffy perfectly so I'm pretty neutral on it, have to see how it is used in the future.
I've been rewatching One Piece since last year with my wife and we just got to Big Mom's flashback in Whole Cake where the giants at Elbaph have a huge festival dedicated to the Sun which was a detail that completely slipped my mind. You could debate the Shandalyns (or whatever the tribal people of Jaya were called, frick if I remember) worshipping the Sun God was just a coincidence or not foreshadowing as Oda hadn't planned out Nika yet, but the Elbaph one definitely seems like a clear cut reference and that was years before the actual reveal. The Sun Tattoo for the Fishmen Pirates has also been around since Arlong Park and given the huge significance that Who's Who made of its symbology, that's also hard to write off as an unintentional thing.
Why are people so resistant to the basic, easy idea Oda or anyone would just write an abstract at the start? I know Toriyama didn’t, but that doesn’t mean you have to lie to yourself no one else did. It’s not even hard. Chapter 1 Oda has it so Luffy has this goofy cartoon attack, it would almost be more difficult to do that without thinking ‘some day he’s going to just turn into a full cartoon, that’ll be his ultimate power’. There’s just no reason at all to believe Oda didn’t write an abstract out beforehand.
Because if he had it planned since the beginning there would be some basic level of foreshadowing and not just a schizo plot dump device character laying out the twist 20 chapters before it happens.
meds
He could have detailed Nika more further ahead of time, but the concept and end point was always there. Either he delayed the foreshadowing due to distractions and too much other content, or the exact name ‘Nika’ which isn’t all that important he made up later to give form to the cartoon final form idea he always had
Though he did say Luffy dancing around the fire in the same silhouetted pose as ‘the ancient sun hero’ was the most important panel in the series so far, back in like 2004 in Skypeia
Because oda dumped the foreshadowing like 20 chapters before gear 5 through who's who
Oda just likes using the sun symbol, it's got nothing to do with foreshadowing.
>Oda just decided to write a thirty+ year magnum opus manga starring a pirate primarily concerned with happiness and freedom who has a rubber cartoon arm punch and who makes people laugh when he fights and frees slaves and causes a huge party by ending oppression everywhere he goes on his search to find the prime treasure which will as repeatedly stated change the world
>there’s absolutely no way he meant for that guy to eventually become a cartoony god of liberation
moron alert
>he meant for that guy to eventually become a cartoony god of liberation
This is why Oda is redpilling his audience on the israelites. He's hoping to bring about a new Hitler!
>He's hoping to bring about a new H-ACK
Idk man, with how much Oda is known to plan out arcs and story beats in advance, it's hard for me to believe he'd include this Sun imagery everywhere in the manga constantly, link it to the idea of freedom, and not have a payoff in mind. In the end, none of us will ever know the truth unless Oda explicitly says it was a last minute thing, but your view is equally as valid as mine.
I think it might be like Haki where he didn't have the payoff fully fleshed out, but he knew he wanted to include it and so still laid the seeds out.
the Sun has been an important theme for the strawhats and specially Luffy for a while. it's no coincidence that their ship is the Thousand Sunny, that Luffy's outfits often have sun motifs, that the Sun is so important to the fishman, etc
but it's less of a foreshadowing and more of a consistent theme throughout the story. Luffy comes from the *East* Blue and goes from island to island getting rid of whatever oppression those people are under. he's the Sun bringing the dawn, slowly freeing the world from its darkness. this is a theme both for the individual arcs but also for the overarching plot of One Piece; Luffy defeating Arlong/Wapol/Crocodile/Doflamingo/Kaido and freeing those islands expands into Luffy defeating the World Government as a whole and freeing the world
I see your point that it's a thematic narrative rather than specifically foreshadowing, but overall it still goes to prove the point that I wanted to make which is that the Nika/Luffy connection isn't ab ass pull, but something that has been built up throughout the series. People denouncing Gear 5 specifically for that either haven't read the series or are just completely oblivious. I can understand being annoyed by the Zoan thing, but Gear 5 itself is just a perfect power up for Luffy and this manga specifically.
just screech asspull if you’re a brown subhuman when you want to have a online console war pissing contest over cartoon fighting mans
Its not that far back. Luffys godpowers were definately not a thing back when being a rubber human made him immune to lightning vs enel
I don’t blame you, after timeskip takes a long time to get good if it even does. Fishman Isle was horribly done. Vegapunk’s island was also shit, they hyped it up and it didn’t reveal anything just some generic dragon and Cesar Clown. Now in the manga they’re actually doing a proper vegapunk island season and there’s actually Garp and Shanks and Blackbeard fights. One Piece always is shit for like 6 months, but then managed to have one chapter that’s amazing.
Can someone explain why this manga is so popular? I read (and watched) up to Water 7. I literally fell for the meme and I don't get it. The manga is generic like MHA or other shonenslop but when the technical narrative of a fight hits the same beats everytime like points out and when every single emotional moment (aside from Usopp and Luffy fighting) is just "muh nakama" every 40 pages I feel like I am missing something profound. Is the predictability and long-running format just a comfort blanket for nips at this point? Did a bunch of people just need a familiar setting to turn their brain off and consume on a weekly basis? I don't get why this is the most successful manga IP of all time.
>this is the most successful manga IP of all time.
It's not. Dragon Ball almost started a war between japan and mexico
Eh if it’s not for you, it’s not for you. Yes though some part of all this is people enjoying knowing they’re on a comfortable long journey
With the scope of it's fanbase it's a bit beyond "it's just to some people's taste." Hate it or love it, most people can articulate why Dragonball manga and the DBZ show succeeded and where it put emphasis that other shows didn't. The only thing I hear about One Piece in this regard is "Oda's worldbuilding" because he will put a villian as a backgroubd character a few arcs before revealing them proper. That's not a strong enough novelty to hook an entire country though. What is so mesmerising about this series to people?
It’s because it does have a massive story tying all this together, everything does ultimately mature in one piece. Take it or leave it
>The manga isn't generic
That typo really changes the post. My bad.
Appealing character designs, creative settings, huge scope, strong backstories, long-running mysteries, knows how to build hype, wasn't afraid to let the main characters fail (pre timeskip), does a good job keeping old characters and plots relevant (just not the main ones), usually good humor
Looks like fun
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what do robin's farts smell like
You wouldn't be able to handle Robin or her farts.
boobs way too big
Ad populum cultists are truly the most disgusting people that exist.
>streaming anime
>Crunchycuck
i want to marry and have children with Nico Robin
Uta!
POOta.
Why do shitposters keep calling him god, enel is a god, this fricking guy is a god
he ate the god fruit howeverthough
Luffy's power is literally called Sun God.
No it's called Human model Nika, Sun God is just a title.
It even sounds cringe upupu ( ͜ ･ω･) ͜
Enel and this dude just have god complexes, Luffy is an actual in universe mythological trickster.
What if Luffy had been a woman?
ridiculous amounts of BE art most likely
Would be the perfect r*pebait.
It would have been insane if his transformation also changed his gender for no reason.
Then the manga would've died before episode 100.
Just the transformation? That isn't worth much beyond confirming the type. I want to see how he fights.
If you think G5 is cool - kys
The Wano arc and its consequences have been a disaster for One Piece.
Isn't it a bit soon to say that for certain? The series is still going, after all.
Wano was being hyped up since Punk Hazard and it was very underwhelming. It felt like Oda wanted to forcefully create a magnum opus and something the manga community would remember for decades to come while simultaneously wanking off glorious Nippon. The entire thing took nearly a decade and it took One Piece from being a fun adventure where missions came and went to a streamlined mission across the New World.
Arguably since Ryuma's inclusion in Thriller Bark.
> longer than dressrosa
> low quality
> garbage ass samurai characters
> moron Oden
> G5
It’s legit worst arc in years
worst till now for sure, but series went to shit long long ago
You are late to the party, Wano is just the peak of One Piss of Shit
>one of the few island nations in the world that straight up told the WG to get fricked
>we finally get there after 15 years of hype
>the legendary samurai turn out to be a group garden variety jobbers that need the strawhats to wipe their asses for them
cant wait for elbaf haha...
The government is afraid of Wano because one guy who died 20 years ago was strong as shit
>one guy who died 20 years ago was strong as shit
YC tier
>because one guy who died 20 years ago was strong as shit
He was YC2 tier at most.
1 admiral and a buster call would have wiped out wano in a day, oden was strong but not THAT strong.
displayed the worst traits about the anime in one arc. how do you go from the kino that was whole cake island to this?
I've seen the same 5 frams of the festival in wano at least a hundred times over 30 episodes
>whole cake island
>kino
i sure loved a year of WEEDING CAKEEE with 2 good pages in the whole arc
>wedding cake meme
Yes, big mom being an unstoppable force of nature was amazing, you fell for the shitposting and probably didn't even read the arc.
i stopped watching the anime before you even discovered
but sure
>unstoppable force of nature was amazing
yes , which was shit because how all that ended
>i stopped
Then your opinion means shit.
>animeonly
Your opinion means less than shit.
no custom pirate character creator = no buy. I want my own version of pirate, not playing as existing chara.
A custom character would be in line with other Warriors games. What kind of pirate would you make?
e-girl pirate with huge mace + emperor haki. Non-fruit user. My crews would be all fishmen.
Mink with Electro, or a giant.with an axe and shield.
Super Saiyan luffy
i really do hate gear 5's design. i wish they kept the hair from when he was about to transform and incorporated a more black and white scheme to it instead of going all white.
lmao @ trying to find excuses for this shitty retcon with this meme.
>make the arc with the highest stakes of one piece
>remove it all with gear 5
How? Luffy lost 3 times, and nearly lost in Gear 5. you homosexuals don't even read this series.
>How?
Godfruit. No one believed he could lose after that
The frick are you on about? We've already seen people lose with """"godfruits"""", you fricking moron. Sengoku and Yamato among them.
>Fruit turns you into joyboy, the one hyped by roger and the story since the beginning
>I-It's the same as sengoku and yamato!!!
Stop being fricking moronic for a minute will you?
>Fruit turns you into joyboy
It most certainly doesn't, you fricking idiot. Again, you don't read this series, stop pretending like you do.
Yeah ok, stop trolling now. Odadrones are so fricking pathetic
>get basic information wrong
>UHHHHH, UR TROLLAN
Fricking lmao! I accept your concession.
You have one more post to bring up a good retort
Make it count
That's fricking metaphor, you total moron. Zunesha is countless miles away and feels an energy similar to his old friend. One of the primary themes in One Piece is inherited will. Luffy isn't Joyboy any more than Chopper is Hiruluk. The fruit doesn't turn you into another person. It gives the user's body rubber properties unless they live long enough and master it well enough to awaken it, at which point they get abilities inspired by the FICTIONAL sun god Nika. Noland and Calgara's story outright spells out for you that there are no actual Gods in the One Piece world.
That's all you'll be getting. Feel free to say "nuh uh", and continue being wrong.
>T-That's a metaphor!!!
>Even though Zunisha recognised him!!
>Even though Kaidou said the one who'd beat him would be joyboy!!!
Mindbroken and done. I'm counting on you to maintain the "that's all you'll be getting" thing although after getting so thoroughly BTFO, I wouldn't be surprised if you tried to come up with another pathetic argument.
>One of the primary themes in One Piece is inherited will. Luffy isn't Joyboy any more than Chopper is Hiruluk
This is one thing ESLs, speed readers, and animehomosexuals will never understand.
So Sengoku can never lose?
Joyboy never lost 800 years ago?
You don't read One Piece.
The stakes were already gone when Kaido couldn't kill any scabbards
I don't give a shit about anime, but I'm assuming this is one piece version of super saiyans? with gear 1-4 being ssj 1 through whatever and 5 being the latest powercreep?
More or less. They're both sets of transformations. Though in Luffy's case it's more like:
>Gear 2: Kaio-ken
>Gear 3: Super Saiyan
>Gear 4: Super Saiyan 2
>Advanced Haki (aka Onigashima): Super Saiyan 3
>Gear 5: Super Saiyan God
Those are piss poor comparisons given the multipliers, Super Saiyan alone exceeds any Gear.
where's gear 1
There isn't one. If there was, it would refer to his normal self.
What drives hispanics to seethe endlessly about this?
All of Luffy's transformations have a unique practical use until 4 that combines the last two. And even then gains a new aesthetic and technique usage.
SSJ is super lazy statchecks outside ultra and fusions. And the latter is rarely used anyway.
>Gear 3: Super Saiyan
Gear 2 to 4 are all Kaio-ken. Joyboy is a shitty asspull with barely any foreshadowing and way too broken. It's like if Naruto kept his sage of six paths.
As someone who hates all this trash and doesn't have a gay dog in the fight the description of luffy's latest form is kino. Even better that it is mindbreaking autists that wank over power level crap. Having your protag develop 4th wall break abilites in a genre that is already a joke is fitting. I bet goku and his ilk are still stuck in semi serious gay muscle/ki/energy beancounter bs.
It’s a fair criticism of the series to say that most arcs are formulaic and repetitive but the recurring theme is always freedom or some kind of liberation. Having the MCs penultimate ability be total toon power freedom is absolutely kino.
>Luffy can turn his enemies into another style of animation
>GUYS! LUFFY ISNT A GOD!
>Luffy ate a GOD FRUIT
>He isnt a god! Im telling you!
>Luffy's powers were retconned to make him only think he couldnt swim and was just made of rubber when in reality he can basically do what he wants
>HE ISNT A GOD THOUGH! AAAAAAA
>Luffy's powers were retconned to make him only think he couldnt swim
Wait... Luffy can swim now?
No
He can probably turn the ocean into rubber.
That seems unlikely. Even a pseudo-god devil fruit form should logically be as weak to the ocean as any other.
Unless they whip out some clarification on what causes that weakness.
They're only weak if they fall in, Aokiji can still turn the ocean to ice for example.
That is true, I forgot about that one for a moment.
I'm not sure, then. There could be a difference between fruit type and usage (Logia consciously using power vs. Mythical Zoan with lasting effects outside of transformation).
>shit I'm pulling square out of my ass
>THAT'LL SHOW EM
the anime equivalent of goyslop
Wait, Luffy's final form is basically the animu version of the Mask?
So far it seems so.
He even pulls a pair of goggles from his hair like hammerspace and grabs a lightning bolt out of the sky to throw at Kaido.
Yes
For comparison
Can anyone seriously still argue that manga is a superior artform at this point?
>judging anime based off 1% of the episodes that end up with 99% of the budget
I dunno anon, that hardly seems fair.
It's just Toei who have to somehow stretch 20 pages to 25 minutes.
lol how strong is that grass
He was already manifesting gear 5 in that grass.
>Every scene getting elongated way past what they lasted in the manga wasn't just Toei cutting corners and milking chapters, it was Luffy's latent meta-powers "stretching" the narrative
HOLY KINO
They both look bad.
this
started reading manga because most anime is total shit with the pacing
>Welcome home, anon!
god i wish
What game?
Grand Cruise VR
>VR
dropped
That game let me suck some Yamatoes
Will he unlock gear 6 in the final arc after they have a good cry and someone not dying?
Uhhhh *burp*
Luffy.... luffy... *buuuurp*
I turned myself into a tank, Luffy!
I'm tank frankyyyyy!!!
DEFEAT SIR CROCODILE
Kino character
Kino arc
Kino fight
Kino
>fattest ass of the strawhats
Proof?
Only if i will be rewarded with these delicious Royal feet.
Luffy's wife is the cutest!
It's crazy how much better and relevant One Piece is than underage Reddit Ball Z
>a weekly(ish) series with an ongoing anime has more relevance than a monthly series with no anime that was gone for 20 years and is currently recapping a movie in it's manga
yeah no shit
One Piece has better reception than Dragon Ball too. So that helps to get people interested in it over a series that essentially ended any decent narrative points and character development after the Cell Games, in 1993.
Majin Buu did the same thing already, don't know why OPgays insist the only people who dislike the form are fans of the series with similar concepts. Hunterchads are a group that actually rip One Piece apart.
stop crying pablo
And One Piece gays are also pretending a lot of its fans aren't latino. Literally called Juan Piss for a reason.
why are you crying though spic?
Calm down, Pedro.
deep breaths pablito don’t hyper ventilate and shit your diaper
HaitusxHaitus is even worse than post Ts one piece about having pages filled with fricking dialogue.
This shit completely misses the point of the gear transformations. It's moronic to even call it gear 5 when the process is completely different.
>the rubber fruit just so happens to be the God fruit
>whoops who knew haha all those other near death experiences just didn't awaken it lmao
Near death =/= death.
weird how he was 100% dead in impel down prison but still didn't activate. hjuck hjuck hjuck
He wasn't, even Mr. 2 says he was only near death, you think Ivankov has the power to bring someone back to life with hormones?
he was on his way to death, ivankov prevented his death.
if his body knew it was dead, then it should have activated the fruit
On its way to death =/= dead. The fruit awakened because his heart actually stopped and it restarted it with the drum beat.
He wasn't. And it doesn't activate on death. It's just a normal fricking devil fruit awakening. There were likely plenty of people that ate the fruit without awakening it, hence why it was never found by the government before Luffy awakened it.
It does activate on death because that's how we saw it activate, it didn't activate for any of those other people because they weren't the chosen one, the fruit was just using them to evade capture until Luffy was born.
Black person, 100% of what you just posted is either a blatant lie or total conjecture.
Prove it, show the moment someone else awakened the nika fruit.
Joyboy. Now show me a moment when death awakened the fruit even once, since it didn't happen to Luffy. Show me where it was written that Luffy is some unbeatable chosen one, since he was already beaten multiple times. Show me how the fruit was evading the government without a human being carrying or eating it.
>Joyboy
Well? I'm waiting for the page that shows him awakening it without dying.
>it didn't activate for any of those other people because they weren't the chosen one
Care to prove that?
Yeah, Luffy is the chosen one and it activated for him.
>Luffy is the chosen one
Gonna need some proof.
Read Wano, it's all there in black and white.
There was only one known joyboy before him
There's still only 1 joyboy. Joyboy was a person who awakened the nika devil fruit. You discord raiders are nuts.
Read the response to the post you linked.
Luffy should be able to just dickflatten kizaru and I will be really frustrated when he can’t
You’re tellin’ me that the light fricker was afraid of a second in command to shanks but not to the man that beat kaido? the strongest man on the planet????
>the strongest man on the planet????
I remember him being the strongest “Beast” in the world. Not the strongest “man”.
the strongest man was whitebeard if i'm not wrong?
Oh boy here come the powerlevelcucks
>uh well acktually this character beat that character in a fight, which means that character should automatically beat that other character, which is exactly how things work because all conflicts are just numbers pushed against each other and the bigger one wins
It genuinely is that way with high level haki
Does toonforce even have a powerlevel? Like, you saw the fight between Goku & Vegeta vs Arale, right?
Except Luffy doesn't have toonforce. He got tired by fighting Kaido and he even bled while in Gear 5 in the manga. Dkunt that he could even dent Goku.
>Dkunt
Yeah, a typo.
>i-its a t-t-typo
it’s so over
>no punctuation
>no capitalization
>complains about grammatical errors
Kek.
reddit is that way little fella
>"proper grammar is for redditors"
Ah, an actual shitskin. KWAB!
just make sure not to make any more accidental typos that expose you as an esl Hispanic next time
>"no you"
Juan Piece shitskins are so funny.
>n-no y-you
how ironic kek
>doesn't know what irony is
You need a dictionary?
>he did it again
KEK
>parroting
>"no you"
Kekaroooo!! The smartest ESL!
>Kekaroooo
got em
>IESLB
KWAB!
>beaten into mindless sperging state like every pathetic Hispanic monkey
never gets old
/thread
>too afraid to respond directly
>still groveling at my feet
I’ve already collected your scalp spic
meant for
on your knees scum ya missed a spot peasants
>IESLB babble
Keep barking pup.
>still too afraid to respond directly
Kek. Shitskin is afraid.
(chosen) one piece
If One Piece is so bad then name 5 better pirate themed action series that feature wacky powers.
Pirates of the Caribbean (the movies)
Once Upon a Time (it has pirates)
Treasure Island in Outer Space
Caraibi
Blackbeard
Honorable mention: The Pirates! Band of Misfits (movie)
what do I win
Robin
my mom
she shits from there
ok but why are fruit powers allergic to sea water???
why is the sea such a b***h
How the frick is advanced evolution unnatural?
>mother nature only exists in sea water
That's stupid
One Piece world is literally mostly water, even more so than our real world.
I want to go back.
It’s the same shit
>one is a climactic battle
>one is just another fight where the main focus is currently lore explanation
Total idiot.
Huh, it was a callback.
>each devil fruit embodies a different wish someone had for our evolution
Who the FRICK wanted to be a bloody JACKET?
You'll probably find one on deviantart
Someone with a very specific fetish.
Transformation fetishes are sadly a thing, I bet there are tons of sexual fetish fruits that can't be covered since it's not an adult series.
>I sure wish I would convince my tough crewmate to fight.
Or it could be the transformation fetish thing, who knows.
this one was born from a serial killer who turned people into jackets
“I was someone else was in control of my life”
That's pretty cut and dry.
>there are so many strong people in this world
>even if they want to help, they don't know how, because living a life of strength has made them alien from those of us who suffer
>if only there was a way the weak could guide that strength
>I'm tired of being small and weak
>if only I could just temporarily take over the bodies of my huge strong friends, with their permission of course
>man, we'd be unstoppable
It was explained in the current arc
Oda really needs an editor that is able to tell him no.
He goes through more editors than a F1 car does tires. No wonder they can't develop good working relationships.
>people fuming about gear 5 being toon force
>meanwhile sanji's body is now just virtually indestructible due to awakened genetics
O MY SUPERHUMAN GENOME
Sanji is just a whatever character, his dream is about cooking and is just the 3rd strongest because he's attractive. It's much more egregious with Luffy because his whole dream is about freedom but now he's just been fated to be the chosen one since the beginning.
One Piece has not redeeming qualities.
I like Sanji but I don't like that reveal
For me, it's Kaido.
if ganon got drunk to fight link it might've made totk more interesting
yeah.
Him accidentally blowing up his castle (don't know if it is his, didn't play the game) or something else he holds dear and then first drunkly crying about it, before he drunk rages and destroyes half Hyrule.
I'm disappointed this didn't had a dubstep track playing.
esl Black person
I'm whiter than you Mohamed.
>I-I’m w-whiter than y-you
seething esl Black person
Still whiter than you.
What the frick is wrong with that camera movement? Why are you even trying to convey with that? This is Michael Bay levels of "Action" directing.
How much longer than Arlong Park is it worth it to read OP? I just finished that last night and some of the descriptions in this thread of late one piece don't sound stellar. I hope this isn't just homestuck for weeaboos.
>homestuck for weeaboos
What the frick does that even mean?
don't let shitposters shape your opinion. you still haven't read One Piece's best arcs, and even though they haven't been as good lately the worldbuilding keeps getting more and more interesting as the series progresses
>I hope this isn't just homestuck for weeaboos.
That’s demon slayer and chainsawman
1/2
Remember that Crocodile is Luffy's biological mom. This shit is crazy but if you check how people explain that theory, all of this shit literally makes fricking sense.
>But crocodile is a guy wtf?
Today Crocodile is a 100% male. But most likely in past Crocodile was a woman. The clue about that is his relation with Ivankov, Ivankov knows important secret about Crocodile's past and in impel down he blackmailed crocodile that he will Reveal his secret to keep him in check. One of Ivankov fruit powers allows him to fully change other people's biological sex i mean from 100% man to 100% woman and vice versa. Most likely that secret was that he was a woman in past so it makes sense that ivankov knows that secret.
Not to mention Ivankov is a member of Revolutionists and directly knows Dragon(Luffy's dad), that means Crocodile in past as a woman was either member of Revolutionists or at least had some relations with members, that means there was a posibility that "Crocomom" got impregnated by Dragon.
>But in Alabasta arc Crocodile almost killed luffy.
That doesen't disprove that theory. Most likely Luffy got separated from his parents very early, probably without even giving him name. And at some moment when luffy was under Garp's care Crocodile changed his identify (Unknown reason).
That means Crocodile had no idea what really happened to kid he gave birth to when he was a woman. And in Alabasta Crocodile had no idea about Luffy's true identify (At this moment Crocodile seen him as just annoing pirate messing with his plans) thats why Crocodile wanted to kill Luffy.
1/2
2/2
Marineford is the last piece of that puzzle. If someone seen, Crocodile was acting strange by really assisting and helping Luffy during that, that normally wont make sense because Crocodile had no reason to assist someone who screwed him over in Alabasta.
But there is one important thing, during Marineford marines officially announced that Luffy is Dragon's son. At that moment Crocodile realized that Luffy is his son from his female past. From that moment he remembered what he did to his own Son during Alabasta and he felt Remorse that motivated him to actually Help Luffy. THe main hint is that scene
Mihawk after being blocked by crocodile asked him why he went into his way, Crocodile just said that he is not in best mood right now, most likely remorse for shit happened in Alabasta hit him.
2/2
You will never be a woman
What makes One Piece so popular?
>we want the fairy tail audience
World building and character writing are great
New art style looks fricking horrendous. Look at their dead stares and black pupils.
I bet Luffy will turn the whole planet into rubber to make it survive a meteor impact caused by Blackbeard soon.
>survive a meteor impact caused by Blackbeard soon
Why would he do that? If at all Fujitora is the one who summons meteors from outer space.
Is there a shonen powerup that actually has a massive drawback that matters?
Gon-san
They exist but as always the writer can just write another thing to make the drawback vanish. Like in Dragonball characters can actually die since they are relatively easy to bring back to life, HxH you can just basically make wishes to a genie etc.
kaioken in the saiyan saga basically took out goku for half of the remaining fight despite making him win at first
Luffy has NEVER won outright with his initial power up. Blueno is the only straight win he ever got while powering up against an opponent. G5 just barely matched Kaido, who by the way, has been fighting for the last 100 episodes, snakeman TIED with katakuri, both g2 and g3 got smoked by lucci, and then he just barely tied, and finally G4 got smoked and outlasted by doffy who fricked up when he got agroed on everyone in the country and was forced into a r ound two.
>tied
He beat Lucci.
okay but none of the drawbacks that they mention about those forms matter, like in the kaido fight when he gets old or some shit he just recovers from it immediately, G4 bounceman is the only i can think of that matters but it kinda just stalls the doffy fight until he can punch him again
>it doesn't count
As expected.
The characters in Kimetsu no Yaiba died young when they activate their slayer mark, though most of them just die during the final battle, and the surviving ones just die off screen after the series ended.
Pic related.
>so shit it shortens Goku's free 24 hours on earth
>so shit it shortens Gotenks' 30 minute fusion limit
>so shit Goku can't keep up with the energy drain once he has a living body again
Not to mention it never gets an onscreen win.
>never gets an onscreen win
Hirudergarn
I dropped the manga right before Zoro vs Pika fight, did I miss something good? I felt the manga was redundant af, every single arc story went the same, did it change?
spic
wrong and whiter than you mutt.
*more white
esl Hispanic.
You are definitely not a Pedro for consooming this, nope.
Where did this "spics love Dragon Ball and auras and shit" thing come from?
Why did Kaido forgot he could go DBZ against Gear 5?
Literally SpicBall Z but with even more jarring animation
woah pirates are cool
>be kiku
>lose arm
>monologue about how the melting of the lingering snow signifies the coming of the dawn
>survive anyway
>be izo
>get fingered
>die off screen
>Be kinemon
>Get thunder bagua'd and stabbed
>live
Izo died because he went with whitebeard instead of oden
>luffy about to fall into the ocean
>just rubbers it with his awakening
One Piece was one of those few rare shounen that kept it cool and consistent but since the time timeskip is just went to shit. If I remember correctly the Gear stuff was something unique to him because of his elastic body he could force it to pump blood faster or some shit and momentarily become stronger now he turns into a god that can do anything and even the clothes changes color for no reason ala Naruto. How quaint.
>now he turns into a god
Not really.
Who is your favorite One Piece character?
Moriah
toriko
Why isn't this bawd wearing shoes?
Luffy is a lucky man
Nami feet sexo
Cus she prepared herself to have her feet properly licked.
Sanji
I know nothing about OP but this b***h and her powers drives me absolutely feral. Does she even do anything or is she a non combatant?
She does combat all the time. She also grabs a crewmates balls from across a jetty
She had a cool fight in Wano
How come everyone is so scared of the world government?
it doesn't seem to be able to control anybody but everyone is still scared to shit of them
>it doesn't seem to be able to control anybody but everyone is still scared to shit of them
the admirals can't be everywhere at once. There's only 4 of them at best.
ISTEN SHANKS BUDDY BOYO. I AM NOT THE ONE TO FULFILL THE ONE PIECE. I AM MISSING SOME GOOFY ASS MYTHICAL ZOAN FRUIT THAT IS UNDER A NEW NAME. ALSO SOME MERMAID b***h NEEDS TO BE BORN AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE DUDE WHO WILL EVENTUALLY BE CHOSEN BY THE FRUIT BECAUSE THAT FRUIT IS A ZOAN AND AS WE ALL KNOW ZOAN FRUITS HAVE A MIND OF THEIR OWN. ANYWAYS THAT SAME FRUIT WAS USED BY NON OTHER THAN JOYBOY HIMSELF. I REACHED THIS ISLAND DESPITE MISSING SO MUCH BULLSHIT ITS LAUGHABLE.
SHANKS WHY ARE YOU CRYING? YOU DONT LIKE THE PROPHECY LEFT BY JOYBOY? YOU JUST AN EDGEgay SPEEDREADER.
You want my treasure? You can have it! BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE THE GRANDSON OF MY BUDDY, THE HERO OF THE MARINES, GARP, WHOSE SON WILL BECOME THE MOST DANGEROUS REBEL IN THE WORLD, WHO WILL ALSO HAVE SEX WITH THE SECRET MOON-GODDESS OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT: IM, AND GIVE BIRTH TO "MOON KEY DEVIL LAUGHY", THE REINCARNATION OF THE ANCIENT STRAW-CROWNED DEVIL REBEL KING JOYBOY, AND DESIGNER-BABY HOST OF THE SUN GOD NIKA, WHOSE DISEMBODIED SOUL HE WILL HOUSE BY EATING THE FRUIT THAT IT WAS PLACED INSIDE OF BY THE KINGDOM OF DEVILS, THE HUMAN-HUMAN MODEL: NIKA MYTHOLOGICAL ZOAN FRUIT, IN ORDER TO ONE DAY DESTROY "GOD", WHICH IS THE WORLD GOVERNMENT, FORMED BY SPACE PIRATES WHO INVADED THE EARTH THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO FROM THE MOON. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT MY UNDERLINGS, THE SOON-TO-BE YONKO SHANKS, WHO IS A celestial DRAGON SPY, AND THE DARK KING RAYLEIGH, WHO IS SECOND ONLY TO ME IF NOT EQUAL IN POWER, TO SEEK HIM OUT AND GIVE HIM HIS STRAW CROWN AND DRAW OUT HIS INNER ABILITIES TO BRING ON THE GLOBAL REVOLUTION! OR MAYBE THEY WON'T! IT DOESN'T MATTER EITHER WAY, HE'S GONNA DO ALL OF THAT WITHOUT ANYONE HELPING HIM BECAUSE IT'S ALL DESTINED TO HAPPEN! HE'S A PUPPET OF FATE, YOU SEE!
COME GET MY TREASURE, LAUGHY!!! I LEFT IT THERE JUST FOR YOU!!!!
MY MOST BITTER REGRET IS THAT I WASN'T BORN LATE ENOUGH TO SUCK YOUR DIVINE wiener AND DRINK YOUR SUN JUICE!!!!
YA YO YAAAA YOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
pills
You cannot dispute that he left the treasure there just for Laughy the son of his best friend's son who descends from the joyboy
He could have left it there for Ace, his own son that he put into the hands of his best friend.
Did Roger even know Dragon existed?
Roger didn't even leave the treasure there, Joyboy did and Roger just didn't take it because he wasn't the chosen one.
he could have but he didn't because you can't go 100% nepotism to get over the finish line, you need a bit of skill too sometimes. Ace was a moron
Sounds pretty israeli to me. Gods chosen people always destined to get the treasure is only left for them
Whitebeard could have gotten it but he didn't give a shit about it, same goes for Big Mom who just wanted to play with her multiracial family project, Kaido was doing his gay SMILE shit and Shanks also never cared about it.
Most of them only started to care when the worst generation started to come knocking on their doors.
Seriously the retcon fruit was so dumb
Absolute annihilation
how did moria go from kaidou's rival to a complete jobber
how was his bounty only in the 300M?
Kaido anally fricked him so hard that he lost all of his crew and then he decided to sit in the easier first half of the grand line and live off killing weak pirates.
>You are sitting in the aquarium room of Sunny
>Robin is there, reading something archeology related
>She glances at you and smiles gently.
>You get a sudden taste of flower petals in your mouth and she looks strained.
>Robin had just bloomed her anus on the roof of your mouth and is shitting down your throat while trying to act calm and collected.
No offense to One Piece fans, but this game looks like ass.
That shit looks moronic. If you're older than 13 and like this most crap it's time to get some real taste
>having a stroke from spewing so hard
seething Hispanic moment
>Hispanic Hispanic Hispanic Hispanic SPIC
embarassing
But call him a Hispanic and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
Okay Black person this isn't a board for under age shit skinsthough
Soooo...what is Nami's super secret power that was never hinted at before but the story will act like it was?
>psychotic schizo rambling
you okay spic?
>never hinted
haki but it was hinted and you are moronic
>haki
The thing that everyone has?
if you go to a party of rich people everyone is rich
who could have guessed?
holy photoshop
their is a tendency for any long running shounen to become DBZ the longer it runs, naruto managed to do it a lot quicker than one piece, which made me think that the theory might not be sound, but thankfully oda decided to do this shit, thank god.
Egghead is amazing so far and if you're a fan that got turned off by Wano (whether by its length or being upset with fights or whatever) I'd suggest getting caught up again because it really has been kino chapter after kino chapter.
Also, a hot take maybe, but I feel like post timeskip could really benefit on another Long Ring Long style arc that focuses purely on crew interactions. Ever since Punk Hazard, the Straw Hats have all been split up or attention spent on building up the samurai plot that there hasn't been a good stretch of us just seeing the crew have fun with each other. It feels like it's been ages, and especially with a new crew member being added the story could really benefit. Unfortunately it probably won't happen since Oda clearly wants to end the series and people now complain so much when there aren't action packed chapters which is a shame. My favorite One Piece moments have always been the impactful character moments over the action stuff such as Luffy giving Nami his hat in Arlong Park, Chopper's exit from Drum, Toto digging in Alabasta, Robin exploring ruins in Skypiea plus her I Want to Live speech, etc. To me that's always been the heart of the series.
Who cares, literally no one was hyped about this. Toei tried really hard to make this their next ultra instinct didn't they?
>mfw I know One Piece is incomparable and I see a dozen midwits trying to downplay its greatness
This lmao. It’s fine not liking or not reading it, but the shit people make up to try and shit on it just because they see something is happening in a show they’re not involved in, is fricking hilarious
Read until you’re bored. It’s a hate thread, don’t let people who aren’t even reading bum out a good time you’re having. Just read until you don’t want to anymore
>that paneling
Yikes
>he screenshotted his own unfunny copypasta that he replied to his own post with
>no argument
Yup.
Gear 5 luffy is fricking great. Edgeshitters just mad.
ALso people mad over that luffy has way less challenges to overcome and shit like it used to be in early one piece. Simply Luffy gets all tools to overcome challenges placed in front of him dyuring his journey, and every challenge he overcomes, he becomes stronger and more "Clever" and maybe getting new tools into his hand. Now Luffy is at like Endgame where basically he overcame Yonko wall, At this moment Oda will just slowly reveal all secrets left and Luffy gets to One piece and its end.
And rubberhose animation powers is fricking awesome and literally fits luffy, like luffy goes full luffy with that powers. He acheives ultimate Luffy
Pirate Queen.
She needs to be milked.
I want to see Gear 5 luffy beating all other bads including akainu, i want to see Akainu getting cartonish beating and making stupid faces because of that.
>Zoomies are calling this jumbled mess the pinnacle of animation
Tom and Jerry can get just as chaotic while being cohesive. This is just lazy dragon ball z with a couple extra frames here and there.
Glad I dropped this shit. I'm not gonna live long enough to reach the end of this shit. I'm still glad I read Thriller Bark which was peak One Piece. Nothing comes even close to that arc.
who would win luffy or goku thoughever?
>Luffy, a dude who mostly fights dudes that are island level
vs
>Goku, a dude that fights beings that can end universes and galaxies
ultra instinct loses to god 5 due to toon force
but ssj4 goku is above god powers so he should win
>toon force
Bugs bunny turning a stop sign is toon force. The roadrunner running through a painted path is toon force. Ed's godlike strength and Eddy's ability to defy the laws of physics is toon force. Hell, Arale being able to school Goku and Vegeta is toon force. Overpowered shonen nonsense isn't toon force.
Turning into a balloon inside of someone and flinging then around so their eyes pop out and jumping them like rope is cartoony. Get a grip
And it’s a fricking meme anyways, a way for needy gays to ape the name of The Flash’s power to pretend Tom and Jerry are superheroes. No need to be such a particular b***h about it. I can’t believe youve put yourself in a situation to say ‘uh Naruto doesn’t have the same powers as daffy duck’ like it offends you with a straight face
Nerdy* gays
It becomes an issue if you try to powerscale and claim that luffy has toonforce, while we can ser in the manga that is simply not true.
They’re gays too. You and them are both being the same type of moron playing ‘who would win droopy dog or jotaro’, I swear none of you have the ability to just take something for what it is without making yourself twice as stupid as someone else just because you think they’re moronic too
>Cartoony = toon force
Goku punching aliens through multiple mountains is cartoony. :^)
Goku shitstomps Luffy.
Goku can't damage Luffy. Physical hits don't do anything and with his reality bending toonforce he can turn the air into rubber to deflect any energy attack.
Anon, Gear 5 was being damaged by Kaido who is weaker than beggining of OG Dragon Ball Roshi. Current Goku literally doesn't even have to transform. Even if you want to be autistic like you, Goku has hakai and mafuba. Luffy loses either way.
I've never even seen Luffy destroy a mountain. Goku can destroy the universe.
Blue Jobber form would find a way to lose to Luffy
One Piece hasn't been good for like 15 years now. I don't care about the series but it's still funny just how much of a trash fire it has become. Especially with people investing decades into this shit, watching 1100 episodes of absolute dogshit with 5 minutes of content split over several different characters per episode if you're lucky.
Chopper was ruined so badly
G5 is such a tumblr powerup
Law should've been the protagonist
I know nothing about One Piece. Did this form get revealed recently or something? Why is everyone something about it?
Yeah the manga chapter came out last November, the anime episode came out two weeks ago. Big stuff, one piece is reaching the finale
burning blood was the only good games based on one piece
One Piece is absolutely the best series for fan theories, they almost more fun than the actual thing now.
that's because unlike most other shonen, One Piece actually has a story that goes beyond "the current thing the protagonists have to fight against"
This shit is real, though it’s going to be because of a polar shit. The world is sideways right now, it will rotate 90degrees causing the ocean swell to shift with the equator, displacing the oceans to reveal new, old continents.
Lode Star Island and Road Star Island are the same island, Gol D Roger was looking right at the location of the One Piece when he spoke at his execution in Loguetown. ‘It’s right there, like right there, but you’re going to have to turn the world upside down to get it’
Polar shift* lol.
The magnetism of the world, it will shift, the world will turn on its axis
Kneel.
>SIX HOURS AND TWENTY FIVE MINUTES
>not even made by the same person
this is like those monkey torture videos where there's no natural explanation for why they exist
kek
Meanwhile the video he just posted doesn't even have 10k views
It was posted 1 hour ago and has 70k views but keep spreading false narratives
>70k views
NOPE. That's 7k views.
That's because One Piece barely has any story so you have to fill in the gaps with wild headcanons like the one from your pic.
seething spic
What made it so good?
This was cringe edgehomosexualry
This same arc had powerlevels too
the cuts where Blueno looks up and Luffy isn't there anymore sell it perfectly. Gear 2 is just really cool
Oda and toei hadn't gotten high off their own facts back then.
Carrot Carrot Carrot Carrot Carrot Carrot Carrot Carrot !!!
Even AI slop looks better than this disgusting filth, delete this immediately
A reminder that Chopper is older than her.
I've been reading One Piece for the past month and just finished Enies Lobby. I'm not really reading these threads because I'm sure there are spoilers, but I feel like the series will probably never be as good as this again, even if I still probably ultimately end up enjoying the rest anyway.
Those arcs fricking rule but you’re also about to go right into like 4 consecutive top tier arcs from there. You don’t even know. And there’s stuff just as good now
>but I feel like the series will probably never be as good as this again
It won't, though the next saga comes close and the second half of the series has its moments
Both Impel Down and Marineford rule though
>edgefest
lol no
>edgy
Lmao you mean the one where the clown and a gang of homosexuals run around a goofy prison designed around elemental hells
the one where WB's head gets partially removed yes
Marineford definitely has some violence to it but surviving a cannonball to the head is pretty fun. Different strokes I suppose
Gear 5 in the anime is way better than in the manga. Almost the entirety of Wano is a clusterfrick because Oda forgot how to do paneling.
mindbroken
How do you do paneling
not like this
you need a double page spread of tryhard cringe 2deep4u shit and more waifu bait instead of reaction faces so the poojeetcels get HOYPE
make it readable and let the action flow with the panels. good paneling guides the reader's eyes naturally through the page. simple is often best
Dragonball was really good at this, specially by cheating with energy beams and flight trails that give a clear indication of movement
>cheating
I appreciate the answer but action lines and visible movement is by no means cheating, it’s the game itself. I feel like people are so cynical about these things
Toriyama's panelling is GOATed. Doing all that while being a lazy frick.
>while being a lazy frick
Why are you people such rotten cynics, always leaping to say something nasty that isn’t even true about great shit you love.
Dude, I was being ironic. Toriyama was built different when it came to drawing.
Alright, no worries then. Just bothers me how some people love all this stuff but they think they’re being ‘better more right fans’ by just talking pointless shit
toriyama is an admitted lazy frick who never cared about the shit he made
He is a humble bastard who’s so good at what he does he can wing it and blow it off in conversation
holy cope deluded spics
It is not cope. You have many interviews with Toriyama where he expresses how he enjoys writing what he considers fun.
He made one of the most popular beloved manga of all times simply by knowing how to draw impact on paper, and doing it. I know there’s this impulse to intellectualize everything, but manga is largely sensational, or at least Dragonball succeeded wildly for simply achieving sensation and impact every chapter. How backwards are you that you think it’s an error or failure that the guy who produces the strongest impact in drawings fastest, made the most beloved manga. This shit is simple, that’s all it needs to be
>schizo rant
hope he see this bro
Ok lmao please go on acting like some of the best selling comics of all time are just lazy mistakes
Toriyama doesn’t like drawing he admits it himself homosexual it’s called a job and he likes money. That’s why he coasts off his cashcow.
>speaking headcanon
Atleast do some research moron. Toriyama loves writing and drawing.
>spictards getting absolutely ass blasted
AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
And he does it right. So what? People come for drawing of serious action and that’s what they get. What’s the problem?
check'd
How is that a cope? Toriyama made one of the most iconic mangas ever, his artstyle is still being used in Dragon Quest, he worked on Crono Trigger. He also worked on Blue Dragon, which also got an anime. Sand Land is also getting a movie and a game. Dude has done it all.
I like toriyama but his shit is justly boring beyond le paneling and Le impacted into you hispanics keep repeating. And I still see people shit on his artstyle same face etc.
>reddit speak
>"le"
Right, you "love" Toriyama.
kneel spic
NTA but how much of a newbie are you?
>it doesn’t matter that the super popular action comic has action in it even though i say it has nothing else
This is just stupid thinking
It’s has nothing beyond that yeah lmao and it got MUCH worse after freiza
It doesn’t need much more than what it has to be what it is, successful and great action people buy for what it is
And I agree I enjoy it for what it was and moved in. It just doesn’t offer much besides that and I found OP in 2003 and it far surpassed it because Oda actually enjoys what he does and it’s obvious.
I just wouldn’t call any of it hate from Toriyama
Misconception actually. He does care, he simply doesn't put much thought into it. He writes what he considers fun.
This, yet morons think they’re clever because it’s not more stress than it needs to be
>dbspic
ever time kek dragonball has nothing besides the gay fights so toriyama had it easy and even then he phoned it in
I don't particularly like Dragonball at all. but you're deluded if you ignore Toriyama's amazingly effective paneling and artsyle
I like DB but I besides that it’s just boring as frick beyond that
Dude, objectively speaking, Toriyama's panelling is matched by only a few mangakas and Oda is not one of them. He may be a better writer, but his drawings are ass compared to Toriyama.
Why is every fricking modern anime game a Dynasty Warriors clone or a shitty arena fighter? Just once I'd like to see something different.
Because Koei, Arksys, CC24 and others all run massive businesses slotting manga into solved genres of gameplay. It’s a pretty sensible strategy to be honest. Just have one serviceable sellable type of game and repeatedly adapt an extremely popular form of media into them over and over.
haters have such cheap complaints
I have? *ahem*
Let's all imagine how Oda would draw this simple page.
>Let's all imagine how Oda would draw this simple page.
Pre or Post Timeskip?
>Let's all imagine how Oda would draw this simple page.
Would be a fun edit
>everything crushed in
>ever other character in the scene adding pointless commentary
>wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords
>some other unrelated scene in the corner
>everything so jumbled you have no idea how to read it first time
>break next week
Wan Piss needs to fail for Toei to revive Dragon Ball.
>Dragon ball
Drag my balls
>One Piece
Warm Piss
>Naruto
_________
Nerd Toes
>AI animated
Warm Pissers have 0 standards.
>AI animated
Imagine hating different animators and artstyles and wanting everything to look the same.
Let me guess, Isekai fan?
This shit is about to get mogged by Boruto's return.
Watch it.
YO HO HO HE TOOK A BITE OF MYTHICAL HUMAN HUMAN MODEL: SUN GOD NIKA
Powerlevels is objectively the worst thing to ever happen to all of fiction.
Seriously so many people are holding on to these rotten juvenile ides they borrowed from other people twenty years ago when they were 11. ‘Toriyama doesn’t put what’s needed into his comics and he hates it all’ what idiotic things to think late into life
It is especially idiotic considering that there are interviews which debunk their claims.
You can literally tell just by reading his shit and what he’s said. I know you hispanics a cultist and not very bright but come on.
>debunking your entire headcanon with offical word from Toriyama is seething
Interesting.
Toriyama debunking himself by admitting to being a lazy c**t and giving zero fricks
I read Dragonball and it’s a ton of great panels of action. His interviews literally show he likes to draw and he likes his career at least as much as anyone who works for a living, knows what they’re doing and is good at it. What’s the problem
I’m glad simple minded spica such as yourself are content
I don’t hate him I love db, dq, sandland it just doesn’t have the same care and effort beyond his artistic talent
That’s fine but artistic talent is enough when the job is to pull explosive martial arts out of twenty blank pieces of paper to sell every week
And I would say the art and action is MORE than just enough, it’s the core content of the entire medium. It is what manga is, Toriyama just saw that clearly
It is not only the core of the manga medium, it is the core of Dragon Ball. Each fight is a clash of ideals and philosophies.
Right, the guy did the most pure and exceptional job in manga by knowing that’s the focus and pointing everything towards that. Concise storytelling of these pulp elements is appropriate.
I mean, that is how he wanted to tell the story. It is simple, yet effective.
Emphasis on the simple VERY VERY SIMPLE…perhaps dare I say too simple
Why complicate the most clear and exciting action of its time? The directness and simplicity are just focused concise action writing, and minimal stress over less important things. How many obstacles do we need to put between the audience and the Kung Fu drawings they pay for?
It stopped being kung fu and early dragon all had interesting shit happening besides PUNCH PUNCH FLY BLAST a very long time ago homosexual and that’s why it went to shot
You have to realize that simple doesn't mean that it is bad. Also, while it is simple, it is not too simple. It is a neverending story of self-improvement. No grand adventure, no title to reclaim, no treasure to find. It is something that everyone can relate to. Trying to better yourself, good vs evil, alien vs human, old vs young, those are all things in which Dragon ball is at its best.
sage
You would say that because that’s all it has going for it and we can all tell your a simple minded Hispanic lmaooo
I’m saying that because it succeeded doing just that, yeah. I am literally agreeing with you Dragonball excels squarely in action
It did up till namek and then I really over stays it welcome. Sandland is much better because it isn’t just gay fight autism
>IESLB
>more misinformation
Dude, you do know that there are interviews which debunk your " Toriyama doesn't care comments" claims?
You still shitting your diaper you obsessed spic?
Post one piece girls feet.
>One Piece fan argument: our series is awesome
>Dragonball fan argument: our series sells more toys
???
>sales and merch indicate popularity
>Dragon Ball is more popular and loved
What is the problem?
luffy blanco aka macaco D luffy
Gear 2 and snake man are the only good forms, debate me homosexuals
So why are DBSpics so obsessed with One Piece?
>another bump limit hitting trhead
one piece haters... we lost again...