>start game >do tutorial that clearly push you in a specific direction character/story wise >collect enough scrap to sell and buy a ship >about to take off >cutscene of you taking off >spawn in space >fly to nearest planet >approach planet >cutscene of you landing on planet >spawn in pre-landed ship >step out >walk >kill alien not-cow
I do wonder what the player count looks like, they are either going to delay the game or about to start a massive press tour because they've been quiet for ages. When was the last time we saw in-game footage, June?
They're doing a theatre presentation for the game at gamescom in a few weeks from now.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>August 23-27th
They are doing a presentation like 10 days before launch? Even Rockstar doesn't hide their games as much as this.
9 months ago
Anonymous
They already did an hour long deep dive. There's nothing else to show. Rockstar has never done an hour long deep dive.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Rockstar doesn't need an hour deep dive when they put out great trailers at a good pace like these
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know what point you're trying to make. We know almost everything there is to know about the core game without any story spoilers. There literally is nothing more they need to show at this point. The fact it's already a best seller proves people don't need anything else.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>story spoilers
I am pretty sure they were semi-indepth about dragonborn powers and acquiring them for Skyrim. We know this has space magic so why can't we know about it. I think just more raw uncut footage would be nice. They just announced bounty board for randomized/infinite quests so cool do one of those. Show us a whole process of accepting, going back to space and to the planet/find the ship in space and do it.
Wave of recent games being overhyped and turning out to be mediocre/half finished at launch, forcing devs to publish an apology and being pinned on the wall of shame.
I guess their logic is either the game is GOTY material and it will sell massively regardless, just like skyrim sold 30 million more copies since 2016 without marketing, solely due to its reputation, or the game is plagued with issues at launch and they can just swipe it under the carpet while polishing it with updates.
They're confident enough for a 5-day early access so who knows.
Wave of recent games being overhyped and turning out to be mediocre/half finished at launch, forcing devs to publish an apology and being pinned on the wall of shame.
I guess their logic is either the game is GOTY material and it will sell massively regardless, just like skyrim sold 30 million more copies since 2016 without marketing, solely due to its reputation, or the game is plagued with issues at launch and they can just swipe it under the carpet while polishing it with updates.
They're confident enough for a 5-day early access so who knows.
This. Todd said he's trying to lower expectations at the moment because people keep asking him stupid questions like if you can do space fishing.
I'm actually pretty hopeful about Starfield because of how grounded Todd has been during interviews. He's been very straight forward and direct about the game's features and has given less open ended answers than ever before. The fact that this game is his magnum opus adds to this.
I like the setting too. The thing is I like the gameplay of Todd games but I'm not that into their IPs. Not a fantasy fan so not into Elder Scrolls lore, not really into the fallout setting as such due to all the moronic 50's retro shit. I like the style of this game, the "realisitc" grounded approach rather than having blue humanoid alien and lizard face humanoid alien. A Todd-like in their own original IP is perfect for me. I will be surprised if there isn't a bit of jank in there somwhere, but as long as its not gamebreaking, its funny sometimes to see silly things happening with random npc interactions and stuff.
>studios can't make a successfull game a second time >people that made warframe big have left >make content islands that don't integrate well in the original game instead of trying to do new games >dumb community managed somehow ended up making decisions because of some weird personality cult because se gave her voice to a character in game
i'm baffled it's still alive, whales trully are something
>Why is there such a lack of gameplay and marketing
It's gonna be delayed to next year. I have seen ads for STALKER 2 and that doesn't even have a set release date.
How new are you exactly? This is how ALL Bethesda game have been marketed. All you get are teasers until a week before launch. So wait for the 5 day pre-launch. That's when people start doing the dinosaur.
Lots of shooting games have "generic" shooting. What else is there to do with shooting? How would you make shooting not generic? You can throw in some slides and double jumps or whatever but its still just shooting. People like shooting. As long as the shooting feels good its good.
>Id software helped them with the combat
They said the same thing with Fallout 4
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fallout 4 had vastly improved combat over 3, don't be a disingenuous homosexual
9 months ago
Anonymous
>vastly
Delusional
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Vastly improved
Lol A sprint/grenade hotkey and ads toggle isn’t much of a vast improvement
Just take the L and admit Bethesda improved combat between Fallout 3 and 4
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Vastly improved
Lol A sprint/grenade hotkey and ads toggle isn’t much of a vast improvement
9 months ago
Anonymous
Aiming and shooting is more responsive and snappier. Enemies are more varied in behavior, animations and silhouette aside from raiders who rely mostly on vocal cues. Movement is basically just Skyrim except you get stuck less often but that’s a huge leap over the any of the Gamebryo games.
FO4 was more fun and interesting than Cyberpunk in terms of enemy and the design of the combat scenarios like ghoul ambushes. Cyberpunk had more customization but is way more repetitive. Like in an early game water plant dungeon if you were smart you could snipe dormant Mirelurks before they could become a problem and get sneak bonuses on them. You could lure charging suicide mutants into packs before blowing them up etc.
You can thank Hideo Kojima for that. They dumped their original work on 2077 and turned it into a movie game with Keanu Reeves and a vestigial open world after bringing him on as an advisor. The guy is the worlds richest idiot savant.
>such a lack of gameplay
But leak actually. Starfield is looking fricking fine ong. Todd has done it again
https://sys.Ganker.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUZ0NpFmhj9QPo
Why do people think it's gonna be buggy when MS's bug squashing team has been working full time for over a year on Starfield and the game has been delayed twice to add content and to ensure that it's a solid game unlike previous releases where Zenimax forced them to release early since they cant afford extra dev time?
Because it's still a Bethesda game and every one they've ever released has been buggy it's the only thing people can reasonably expect. If Phil got their QA people to actually do their fricking job this time around, that's great, but we can't believe it until we see it. If I start playing at 8 PM and I don't see a bug until I collapse the next morning then they'll have changed my expectations.
>Of course there will be bugs. Impossible to make a game of this size for PCs and not have bugs. Literally Impossible.
Tears of the Kingdom was pretty much bug free.
Yeah, TotK was made for one system which Nintendo knows inside out.
Look at TotK's emulation on PC at launch and you start to see the problem developers face when bringing games to PC. Its impossible to optimise because no PC player is having the same experience as any other PC player. That's why I think the game will best played on Series X at launch. Its a known entity if you get my meaning.
Just because contrarian gacha-playing Gankerirgins don’t like these games. It doesn’t they aren’t masterpieces.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh don't get me wrong, they're good games
But they're not masterpieces, without mods nobody but nostalgiagays would even think about them anymore
To be frank, FO4 isn't even good WITH mods
9 months ago
Anonymous
mods and modding are part of the game and part of the reason they are masterpieces
starfield was made to be modded its going to be soooo good
9 months ago
Anonymous
i mostly enjoy strategy games, (total war, 3k, paradox, wargames, MoW, CoH2) City builders, Management games (Planet coaster/zoo, The guild 2, prison architect, ect) and pretty much every bethesda game is a walking simulator with combat thats as engaging as first person runescape. Its a boring shallow experience every time. Its buggy, looks terrible and has a high chance of crashing. Its only redeeming factor is that its world is just big enough to hide all of this long enough for a person to form a memory of the game until you realize copy pasted towns and dungeons with copy pasted enemies for copy pasted loot (but now its green) isnt all that fun.
>armored core 12 days old gameplay preview 4.6M views >starfield 56 days old gameplay preview 2.1M views
and it's without counting all the separates video from journos and ecelebs
it's dead on arrival
Everybody watched the Xbox showcase premiere of the trailer. Christ, the last official video from a few days was a trivial lore video and already has 4million+ views.
if it got the same bugs and issues as every bethesda games since morrowind it will show that there's no redemption for bethesda, we're not even talking about it being good yet
I've glanced through MS gaming q2 reports and they are good, apart from hardware sales, so a strong q4 would only improve ES6's marketing budget probably but more importantly it would make side projects like Fallout 3 remake a reality and fasten things up back at Beth HQ with M&As or ramping up hiring etc for projects like Fallout 5
so yes, SF's success is probably good for RPG enjoyers in the mid-run
They sold 60 million copies of Skyrim, they likely made well over $1.5 billion and closer to $2 billion with this game alone.
Then Fallout 4 sold 13 million copies the first year. We haven't got any new figure since, but it's fair to assume they earned about $1 billion from it too.
Even if tardfield doesn't sell as hoped, Bethesda is covered by skyrim alone that still sells like hot pockets (30 million copies since 2016)
I just figured out what's with all the anti-starfield shitposting. I can't believe I didn't see it sooner, as a Monster Hunter veteran >it's not on the Switch therefore it's bad
They did the EXACT same song and dance with Monster Hunter World. Ninties are such pathetic little sour grape homosexuals.
>see OP from catalogue >heh the dude looks like its that toy from Saw, better head into the thread and mention this >check one more time before posting >it is the toy from Saw
>>well then let me also remind you that feedback for FO4 was also mixed
journalistic feedback or fan feedback? journalists seemed a bit more forgiving of the game, while fan feedback was pretty harsh (but all of them bought the game anyway)
this game is gonna make people seethe like cyberpunk because it doesn't fulfill their wildest dreams.
I played cyberpunk on launch on a xbox series x and drank a case of beer. It was fun as hell, and I think the game crashed like once. I experienced few bugs.
The difference is this game isn't lying about what it is. If anyone is expecting anything other than a fallout-like with spaceships then they are moronic.
that's true but that doesn't stop the imbeciles from seething. The amount of butthurt regarding this game has been immense. Perhaps, it's just snoy rage.
I just want starfield to follow the standard bethesda template of >the chosen one >epic quest to find something >several factions fight for power >can pick and choose someone or no one >items, exploration and local draughr/zombies and raiders
that's all i want from starfield
This has to be a cope. Even the biggest CD Red fan boys had to admit how bad the game was. Not saying you didn't have fun, but acting like the negativity towards the game wasn't warranted because of that is a bad take.
Nah the reaction to 2077 was borderline hysterical, some of the blame is on the devs for their marketing campaign but really a lot gamers need to grow up, stop being swept up in hype and play the finished product not the fantasy in their heads
The emphasis on the number of planets isn't to blow your mind. I'm pretty sure the logic behind that is "well it's ok if you don't like everything about the game or the story, you've got 900 planets that you can fully mod to create your own world, your own setting, your own story"
"See that moon? You can go there to play The Elder Scrolls"
Didn't Todd say he wants people to play it for over a decade? That's only possible with mods and the possibility to bring your fantasies to life.
I'm sure there will be some secrets hidden around somewhere too. I think it will be pretty cool to be mooching around on some barren moon just harvesting some shit and then stumble across something in the middle of nowhere...
Bethesda has never had good combat in any of its games. >but what about fallout 4
yeah fallout 4's combat was for midwits. I love Morrowind but any game whose combat system can be summarized a dice roll has shitty combat.
Eh. I was never going to buy Starfield because I only look for 2 things from bethesda, Fallout and Elder Scrolls. I don't give a shit about space games.
That being said the combat looks bland and boring, even when compared to FO4, which was almost a decade ago. Space ship doggy fighting especially looked bad, but maybe I'm just not the target audience and some Elite Dangerous homosexuals see this as the peak gameplay. Good for them if so.
What the hell does "STARFIELD" even mean?
Why is the game called "STARFIELD"?
With The Elder Scrolls - you got lore items called "elder scroll" they are literally a pickable quest items in each game.
Fallout - the word "fallout" is sometimes used in game, there's radiation, fallout shelters, and it makes sense.
What is star field? Like a star plane or something? Why call it this way?
For another reference mass effect is a part of the in-game tech basically a thing that allows ftl travel
I was about to ask the same thing pretty much lmao
in Star Trek for example you have this whole naval imagery with ships and the sea etc but I don't really get what they're going for in Starfield, the only thing they really gave us was "NasaPunk"
So it's me who's moronic, not Todd Howard for picking a name for his new game based on reasons known only to him >because it has "star" in the name like star trek or star wars and people will involuntarily draw parallels with these franchises, PR is all that matters everything else including the logic does not
If "starfield" does not intuitively make sense to you as "a field of stars" aka "the night sky" aka "space" you're either ESL or moronic, or most likely both.
>based on reasons known only to him
homie they've thrown the Anatole France quote at you like three different times in the marketing: >The wonder is, not that the field of stars is so vast, but that man has measured it.
That tells you everything you need to know about the tone of the game.
The elder scrolls only showed up in-game for the first time in oblivion, and was only significant in anything beyond side-quests in Skyrim, it's a mostly very insignificant part of the setting
i haven't been following this at all. it's just skyrim/fallout in space, right? i put $75 in my steam wallet to get baldur's gate 3, then felt a pit in my stomach as i was about to purchase it, then decided not to. looking to get something else. this might be it
>fallout type shooting
The gunplay looks much better than even modded fallout 4, they seriously worked on it since last year's gameplay reveal. It doesn't look like the cartoonish gunplay from fallout.
To be honest I've never really understood people saying the gunplay looks bad or good. Its pointing a gun at enemies and shooting. It looks the same whatever shooter it is. The way it feels might be different, but the way it looks? What are people seeing that makes some gunplay look good or bad to them?
I suppose the right way to say it would be something like "it looks like it's going to feel bad/good" just based on sound design, gun design, animations, enemy reactions, time it takes to kill someone, etc.
Bethesda has never had good combat in any of its games. >but what about fallout 4
yeah fallout 4's combat was for midwits. I love Morrowind but any game whose combat system can be summarized a dice roll has shitty combat.
>fallout 4's combat was for midwits
What xactly was wrong with it? Or rather, what about it was worse than a "regular" FPS /shooter game?
Its pretty simple >Good Gunplay >Loud/Loud enough >Defined particle effects on gunfire and/or bullet >dynamic enemy reaction >blood >Interesting looking guns that stick to a core theme
>Bethesda gunplay >sound usually bugs out or glitches >partifle effects usually glitch out or crash the game >enemies cycle through canned animation_04 through canned animation_24 when shot >blood >bad gun designs that god had no had in creating or copy pasted from black isle
Enemies that get thrown 10 meters back by a bullet look goofy, and generic death/damage animations look very out of date.
No one wants bullet sponges and guns that feel like toys.
unless bethesda don't do what it have done for 20 years and do somethig genuily good without the habitual bethesda downsides, no
totk is a better contender, AC6 might have a chance if it perform better than expected, it's actually big in japan, still everything point to BG3 winning it
Uhhh no, theres a premium version that gives early access and also the first DLC when it comes out, and a regular verion that you will have to wait a few days more to play
It will be same price on release. Do you have two versions available like the normal and premium? Or just trhe one?
9 months ago
Anonymous
this is the cheaper one
I think I'll try the friend-from-another-country-gift route
9 months ago
Anonymous
The cheaper one is just preodering the normal game, same price now or when it comes out, the more expensive one gives 5 days early access + included the DLC when it comes out. Or it on gamepass too
lmao at Todd saying >when you step into the new world and you GET THAT FEELING OF UNLIMITED POSSIBILITIES
what i feel when i load a bethesda game is unlimited dungeons i have to clear and countless raiders to kill. That's like the first thing that comes to mind.
The guns look like an imprvement over Fallout 4 anyway. Its an improvement having their own IP and not being bound by pre-existing lore. I mean the square shotgun looked a bit off sure, and there was a revolver I saw that didn't revolve. But I'm sure it will be fine. Littel details.
Can’t wait to see how fricked this game is with the Series S handicap holding it back. If that piece of shit can’t handle an isometric strategy game like BG3, Starfield is going to be as shallow as Minecraft, No Man’s Sky and Fallout 76.
I have a PC moron and that still won’t be able to make up for the limits of the Series S. They may as well release on the Xbox One X since that is more powerful than the Series S.
Parity = Equity, it’s doomed.
dont know why youre so angry about it then. youve got an ok pc and should be able to run it alright.
wait till it comes out before you start seething
9 months ago
Anonymous
I am pissed about the wasted potential, the Series S is holding back all cross platform releases including PC games. As long as they are only allowed to be good as the lowest common denominator this entire generation is being squandered. All we get is 4k texture mods and they consider it Next Gen. It is the reason all we get are Remakes with upgraded visual modifications.
9 months ago
Anonymous
that's fair mate but it's how the industry is. Games aren't just for people with high end systems, they try to make them for everyone
reserve your judgement until it releases. you never know it might be good
9 months ago
Anonymous
They should just make consoles roughly the same with the cheaper model omitting a disc drive, by making a baby version each gen is what ruined the last gen. Every game had to be playable on OG Xbox One and that thing was a moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
not him, but usually you need a timestamp to be credible
I saw what happened to Cyberpunk 2077 because they needed it to play on last gen consoles and the Series S is weaker than those systems. The Xbox One X and PS4 Pro are more powerful than the Series S, so unless it has cel shaded graphics to make up for that limitation it’s going to be brainless.
>it's actually 30 days
holy shit, NO
It was nowhere near completion when they showed us the trailers couple of months back
This game need at least a year of polishing
>travel instantly to space >no loading screens >models the entire universe to scale >ted cant even get 1 galaxy down >no minorities >no women >just space
the good shit.
You’re only as good as the last game you released, and for Bethesda it’s Fallout 76. Take Square Enix for example, the last thing they released before the abysmal FFXVI was Forspoken.
>stack XBL Gold passes to get 3 years of game pass for less than the cost of Starfield and Forza 8 >get to play them all day -5 to day 1 >playing anything on the back catalogue while waiting, >plus get anything new under the MS/Activision belt as a bonus >can also just watch latest PS5 movie on youtube
snoys on suicide watch
You mean 3 months, thats how long ill take this game to be playable seeing as it bears the bethesda seal of quality
Don't worry, I'll tell you everything about the game's story so you don't miss out!
I don't think anybody is excited to discover the story of a game written by bethesda (post-morrowind) lol
>you explore the galaxy n shiet
there i spoiled it for you already
>story
nobody cares
>start game
>do tutorial that clearly push you in a specific direction character/story wise
>collect enough scrap to sell and buy a ship
>about to take off
>cutscene of you taking off
>spawn in space
>fly to nearest planet
>approach planet
>cutscene of you landing on planet
>spawn in pre-landed ship
>step out
>walk
>kill alien not-cow
aight fellas, taking bets.
whats the size of the day 1 patch going to be?
the smart money is on 50gb minimum.
The size of the day-one community patch mod to correct known engine bugs from oblivion*
>le arthmoor patch
no thanks, would rather play vanilla
0 cause cloud gaming
cloud Black folk can tongue my anus
That's gay, kys
USEEP is 129.4MB, The FO4 one is 27.1MB. So probably around 200MB on a bad day. It's the texture packs that will be hilariously large.
You mean 25
You mean 25 before the fitgirl repack.
Why is there such a lack of gameplay and marketing
>Why is there such a lack of gameplay and marketing
They don't need to bother. Hype is already in atmosphere. I love the fact that I'll be playing this blind.
Normoids aren't aware Skyrim in space is coming out
Literally the 4th best selling game on steam right now and isn't out for another month.
Actually this is for my region only. It's 3rd best selling game in the global top sellers.
I do wonder what the player count looks like, they are either going to delay the game or about to start a massive press tour because they've been quiet for ages. When was the last time we saw in-game footage, June?
>delay the game
The game was supposed to be out almost a year ago, then delayed, then delayed again. A new delay would be worse than a buggy release.
They're doing a theatre presentation for the game at gamescom in a few weeks from now.
>August 23-27th
They are doing a presentation like 10 days before launch? Even Rockstar doesn't hide their games as much as this.
They already did an hour long deep dive. There's nothing else to show. Rockstar has never done an hour long deep dive.
Rockstar doesn't need an hour deep dive when they put out great trailers at a good pace like these
I don't know what point you're trying to make. We know almost everything there is to know about the core game without any story spoilers. There literally is nothing more they need to show at this point. The fact it's already a best seller proves people don't need anything else.
>story spoilers
I am pretty sure they were semi-indepth about dragonborn powers and acquiring them for Skyrim. We know this has space magic so why can't we know about it. I think just more raw uncut footage would be nice. They just announced bounty board for randomized/infinite quests so cool do one of those. Show us a whole process of accepting, going back to space and to the planet/find the ship in space and do it.
Normies don't use steam lol
>he thinks pc gaming is some super secret club
LMAO
>gay bear sex siulator
>'eck
>"Remnant II"(literally who?)
>cool of doooby
Oof. If this is their pre-order peak no wonder they are cutting their losses.
Its the best selling game that hasn't yet even released
Pre-order peak was 2 months ago, this is just one of the random spikes in sales it's been getting since the direct
Wave of recent games being overhyped and turning out to be mediocre/half finished at launch, forcing devs to publish an apology and being pinned on the wall of shame.
I guess their logic is either the game is GOTY material and it will sell massively regardless, just like skyrim sold 30 million more copies since 2016 without marketing, solely due to its reputation, or the game is plagued with issues at launch and they can just swipe it under the carpet while polishing it with updates.
They're confident enough for a 5-day early access so who knows.
There's a big show in a theatre at gamescom in a couple weeks
This. Todd said he's trying to lower expectations at the moment because people keep asking him stupid questions like if you can do space fishing.
Wtf no fishing? Are you serious?
I'm actually pretty hopeful about Starfield because of how grounded Todd has been during interviews. He's been very straight forward and direct about the game's features and has given less open ended answers than ever before. The fact that this game is his magnum opus adds to this.
I want to fricking believe. I want Todd's Game.
I like the setting too. The thing is I like the gameplay of Todd games but I'm not that into their IPs. Not a fantasy fan so not into Elder Scrolls lore, not really into the fallout setting as such due to all the moronic 50's retro shit. I like the style of this game, the "realisitc" grounded approach rather than having blue humanoid alien and lizard face humanoid alien. A Todd-like in their own original IP is perfect for me. I will be surprised if there isn't a bit of jank in there somwhere, but as long as its not gamebreaking, its funny sometimes to see silly things happening with random npc interactions and stuff.
>no space fishing
lame. Even warframe had it.
>studios can't make a successfull game a second time
>people that made warframe big have left
>make content islands that don't integrate well in the original game instead of trying to do new games
>dumb community managed somehow ended up making decisions because of some weird personality cult because se gave her voice to a character in game
i'm baffled it's still alive, whales trully are something
When you're on top you don't need to do things like that.
>Why is there such a lack of gameplay and marketing
It's gonna be delayed to next year. I have seen ads for STALKER 2 and that doesn't even have a set release date.
How new are you exactly? This is how ALL Bethesda game have been marketed. All you get are teasers until a week before launch. So wait for the 5 day pre-launch. That's when people start doing the dinosaur.
>ignores 6 months of marketing threads
>"why is there such a lack of marketing"
meant for
Because gameplay sucks.
From what has been shown, its typical generic FPS action and not much more.
Lots of shooting games have "generic" shooting. What else is there to do with shooting? How would you make shooting not generic? You can throw in some slides and double jumps or whatever but its still just shooting. People like shooting. As long as the shooting feels good its good.
That's the thing, from what little we have seen, Starfield combat doesn't look that good. Fricking Cyberpunk appears to have vastly superior combat.
Id software helped them with the combat
sorry anon, I know you don't want it to be but it will be the best game ever made
>Id software helped them with the combat
They said the same thing with Fallout 4
Fallout 4 had vastly improved combat over 3, don't be a disingenuous homosexual
>vastly
Delusional
Just take the L and admit Bethesda improved combat between Fallout 3 and 4
>Vastly improved
Lol A sprint/grenade hotkey and ads toggle isn’t much of a vast improvement
Aiming and shooting is more responsive and snappier. Enemies are more varied in behavior, animations and silhouette aside from raiders who rely mostly on vocal cues. Movement is basically just Skyrim except you get stuck less often but that’s a huge leap over the any of the Gamebryo games.
FO4 was more fun and interesting than Cyberpunk in terms of enemy and the design of the combat scenarios like ghoul ambushes. Cyberpunk had more customization but is way more repetitive. Like in an early game water plant dungeon if you were smart you could snipe dormant Mirelurks before they could become a problem and get sneak bonuses on them. You could lure charging suicide mutants into packs before blowing them up etc.
I don't remember 2077 having more customization than Fallout 4 really, its just hacking, shooting and slashing builds
There are more augments and shit you could combine but they end up in one of those to three builds or something in between.
You can thank Hideo Kojima for that. They dumped their original work on 2077 and turned it into a movie game with Keanu Reeves and a vestigial open world after bringing him on as an advisor. The guy is the worlds richest idiot savant.
>such a lack of gameplay
But leak actually. Starfield is looking fricking fine ong. Todd has done it again
https://sys.Ganker.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUZ0NpFmhj9QPo
Kys
Only 25 days for me =)
STARFIELD BROS LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Based Todd about to wipe the floor with Baldurs Gape
I believe.
we're going to see this thread for the next 30 days followed by a week of constant SF threads like BG3 now. So this is how Ganker dies.
This is how it's been on Ganker since Borderlands 1. Maybe even before that.
My body is ready
The mods alone will make this game last a long ass time
Why do people think it's gonna be buggy when MS's bug squashing team has been working full time for over a year on Starfield and the game has been delayed twice to add content and to ensure that it's a solid game unlike previous releases where Zenimax forced them to release early since they cant afford extra dev time?
Because it's still a Bethesda game and every one they've ever released has been buggy it's the only thing people can reasonably expect. If Phil got their QA people to actually do their fricking job this time around, that's great, but we can't believe it until we see it. If I start playing at 8 PM and I don't see a bug until I collapse the next morning then they'll have changed my expectations.
Of course there will be bugs. Impossible to make a game of this size for PCs and not have bugs. Literally Impossible.
I'll be playing on my Series X and hopefully have a more stable experience.
>Of course there will be bugs. Impossible to make a game of this size for PCs and not have bugs. Literally Impossible.
Tears of the Kingdom was pretty much bug free.
>Tears of the Kingdom was pretty much bug free.
Yeah, TotK was made for one system which Nintendo knows inside out.
Look at TotK's emulation on PC at launch and you start to see the problem developers face when bringing games to PC. Its impossible to optimise because no PC player is having the same experience as any other PC player. That's why I think the game will best played on Series X at launch. Its a known entity if you get my meaning.
>Game of this size
TOTK was a good dlc, but it's not even in the same league as Todd's games.
Because they've played Bethesda RPGs before
Yea I don’t expect it to be very buggy, I just think it will be bland with dated game design.
>MS's bug squashing team
Lmao. Actually kek'ed.
Just bought my premium copy for fanatical. I'll be sure to spoil EVERYTHING for you frickers Sept 1st
What space kinos should I watch to prepare myself.
for starfield? I am mildly hyped for the game but unironically guardians of galaxy
>unironically shilling the MCU
Star Trek Voyager, though you won't be able to finish that before it releases.
2010
Star Trek TMP
Sunshine
Firefly
Battlestar Galactica Reboot
The Expanse
read the downbelow station series
I'm rereading the Expanse. Doesn't really fit with the kind of soft sci-fi going on, but frick it, I'm getting my Roci
>eclipsed by armored core hype
I'll get both homosexual, many chads will do the same.
Todd wasn't responsible for that one, he was only forced to market it
he was executive producer on it, and got at least as much responsability as anyone in bethesda over it
Wasn't Bethesda's main studio snoyboi.
Literally everything to come out of Bethesda's main studio is considered a masterpiece.
>skyrim
>oblivion
>FO4
>"masterpieces"
troll or moron
Just because contrarian gacha-playing Gankerirgins don’t like these games. It doesn’t they aren’t masterpieces.
Oh don't get me wrong, they're good games
But they're not masterpieces, without mods nobody but nostalgiagays would even think about them anymore
To be frank, FO4 isn't even good WITH mods
mods and modding are part of the game and part of the reason they are masterpieces
starfield was made to be modded its going to be soooo good
i mostly enjoy strategy games, (total war, 3k, paradox, wargames, MoW, CoH2) City builders, Management games (Planet coaster/zoo, The guild 2, prison architect, ect) and pretty much every bethesda game is a walking simulator with combat thats as engaging as first person runescape. Its a boring shallow experience every time. Its buggy, looks terrible and has a high chance of crashing. Its only redeeming factor is that its world is just big enough to hide all of this long enough for a person to form a memory of the game until you realize copy pasted towns and dungeons with copy pasted enemies for copy pasted loot (but now its green) isnt all that fun.
It’s even more concerning that he is downplaying it. When has he ever underpromised and over delivered?
>mummy said I can only buy one game 🙁
70$ is a lot of money for most people
It's gonna be shit
>armored core 12 days old gameplay preview 4.6M views
>starfield 56 days old gameplay preview 2.1M views
and it's without counting all the separates video from journos and ecelebs
it's dead on arrival
moronic sonyshit.
Everybody watched the Xbox showcase premiere of the trailer. Christ, the last official video from a few days was a trivial lore video and already has 4million+ views.
Fricking have a nice day snoy.
>sonyshit
>Xbox showcase
both games release on pc you know
Starfield is exclusively not on snoystation.
and who give a shit, you got a pc right?
>you got a pc right?
I don't sit at a desk to play games in my bedroom. I'm not 14. I'll play on my Xbox in the lounge like a normal adult.
>not having a deskroom for any work or hobby related things
>a normal adult
You're writing this here? Good joke
Not yet heh heh. Sooner or later tho 🙂 mark my words.
>Starfield, one month away in the top 5 of steam sellers
>Armored core, 2 weeks away, being outsold by Skyrim enhanced edition
or perhaps the average armored core consumer is smarter than the average starfield consumer and don't precommand
Seethe longer and harder.
>caring about consoles for a PC release
see, you're the comsumer that make a group dumber on average
Reminder: The success of Starfield is what will bankroll Elder Scrolls 6. If Starfield fails then Elder Scrolls will be shit. Here's hoping.
if it got the same bugs and issues as every bethesda games since morrowind it will show that there's no redemption for bethesda, we're not even talking about it being good yet
Microsoft owns Bethesda. I'm pretty sure one of the biggest corporations in the world can bankroll ES6 whether or not Starfield is a success.
anything related to ES6 is 99% already budgeted
I've glanced through MS gaming q2 reports and they are good, apart from hardware sales, so a strong q4 would only improve ES6's marketing budget probably but more importantly it would make side projects like Fallout 3 remake a reality and fasten things up back at Beth HQ with M&As or ramping up hiring etc for projects like Fallout 5
so yes, SF's success is probably good for RPG enjoyers in the mid-run
SF is streetfighter. You’ll have to find a better way to shorthand starfield.
how about Kinofielda aka KoF?
>elder scrolls
Who cares about more medievel fantasy slop though? I never want to see another paladin or kobold ever again.
Elder Scrolls has no paladins nor kobolds though
>starfields success will bank roll the next entry in a 20 year old dead series
They sold 60 million copies of Skyrim, they likely made well over $1.5 billion and closer to $2 billion with this game alone.
Then Fallout 4 sold 13 million copies the first year. We haven't got any new figure since, but it's fair to assume they earned about $1 billion from it too.
Even if tardfield doesn't sell as hoped, Bethesda is covered by skyrim alone that still sells like hot pockets (30 million copies since 2016)
I just figured out what's with all the anti-starfield shitposting. I can't believe I didn't see it sooner, as a Monster Hunter veteran
>it's not on the Switch therefore it's bad
They did the EXACT same song and dance with Monster Hunter World. Ninties are such pathetic little sour grape homosexuals.
>people who play on console are more prone to be stupid childrens
who knew
>see OP from catalogue
>heh the dude looks like its that toy from Saw, better head into the thread and mention this
>check one more time before posting
>it is the toy from Saw
>beast hunter class
finna roleplay as kraven
it will dethrone skyrim as being bethesda's worst game
>as being bethesda's worst game
it's fo76 tho
i actually forgot about 76
well then let me also remind you that feedback for FO4 was also mixed, because it was desapointing coming from skyrim
>>well then let me also remind you that feedback for FO4 was also mixed
journalistic feedback or fan feedback? journalists seemed a bit more forgiving of the game, while fan feedback was pretty harsh (but all of them bought the game anyway)
390 days before i buy it then
this game is gonna make people seethe like cyberpunk because it doesn't fulfill their wildest dreams.
I played cyberpunk on launch on a xbox series x and drank a case of beer. It was fun as hell, and I think the game crashed like once. I experienced few bugs.
Gamers are just unstable and low T.
The difference is this game isn't lying about what it is. If anyone is expecting anything other than a fallout-like with spaceships then they are moronic.
that's true but that doesn't stop the imbeciles from seething. The amount of butthurt regarding this game has been immense. Perhaps, it's just snoy rage.
I just want starfield to follow the standard bethesda template of
>the chosen one
>epic quest to find something
>several factions fight for power
>can pick and choose someone or no one
>items, exploration and local draughr/zombies and raiders
that's all i want from starfield
This has to be a cope. Even the biggest CD Red fan boys had to admit how bad the game was. Not saying you didn't have fun, but acting like the negativity towards the game wasn't warranted because of that is a bad take.
Nah the reaction to 2077 was borderline hysterical, some of the blame is on the devs for their marketing campaign but really a lot gamers need to grow up, stop being swept up in hype and play the finished product not the fantasy in their heads
wtf it's literally fallout 4 in space
KINO
The emphasis on the number of planets isn't to blow your mind. I'm pretty sure the logic behind that is "well it's ok if you don't like everything about the game or the story, you've got 900 planets that you can fully mod to create your own world, your own setting, your own story"
"See that moon? You can go there to play The Elder Scrolls"
Didn't Todd say he wants people to play it for over a decade? That's only possible with mods and the possibility to bring your fantasies to life.
I'm sure there will be some secrets hidden around somewhere too. I think it will be pretty cool to be mooching around on some barren moon just harvesting some shit and then stumble across something in the middle of nowhere...
i'm pretty excited and the combat looks good.
Combat looks bland as frick. Try F.E.A.R. for a change, moron
Looks good for a vanilla bethesda game. At least they progressed. I still remember that horrible fallout 3 gunplay.
Bethesda has never had good combat in any of its games.
>but what about fallout 4
yeah fallout 4's combat was for midwits. I love Morrowind but any game whose combat system can be summarized a dice roll has shitty combat.
Eh. I was never going to buy Starfield because I only look for 2 things from bethesda, Fallout and Elder Scrolls. I don't give a shit about space games.
That being said the combat looks bland and boring, even when compared to FO4, which was almost a decade ago. Space ship doggy fighting especially looked bad, but maybe I'm just not the target audience and some Elite Dangerous homosexuals see this as the peak gameplay. Good for them if so.
>Space ship doggy fighting especially looked bad
it does look like it's gimped to accomodate controller and keyboards and end up just sucking
Todd will win
Is the Saw DLC available day one?
What the hell does "STARFIELD" even mean?
Why is the game called "STARFIELD"?
With The Elder Scrolls - you got lore items called "elder scroll" they are literally a pickable quest items in each game.
Fallout - the word "fallout" is sometimes used in game, there's radiation, fallout shelters, and it makes sense.
What is star field? Like a star plane or something? Why call it this way?
For another reference mass effect is a part of the in-game tech basically a thing that allows ftl travel
I was about to ask the same thing pretty much lmao
in Star Trek for example you have this whole naval imagery with ships and the sea etc but I don't really get what they're going for in Starfield, the only thing they really gave us was "NasaPunk"
Its called star field because you can grow stars in space like a farmer in a field
You are actually moronic.
So it's me who's moronic, not Todd Howard for picking a name for his new game based on reasons known only to him
>because it has "star" in the name like star trek or star wars and people will involuntarily draw parallels with these franchises, PR is all that matters everything else including the logic does not
If "starfield" does not intuitively make sense to you as "a field of stars" aka "the night sky" aka "space" you're either ESL or moronic, or most likely both.
it just sounds dumb that's all
You sound dumb
>based on reasons known only to him
homie they've thrown the Anatole France quote at you like three different times in the marketing:
>The wonder is, not that the field of stars is so vast, but that man has measured it.
That tells you everything you need to know about the tone of the game.
>STARFIELD
DELIFARTS
The elder scrolls only showed up in-game for the first time in oblivion, and was only significant in anything beyond side-quests in Skyrim, it's a mostly very insignificant part of the setting
i haven't been following this at all. it's just skyrim/fallout in space, right? i put $75 in my steam wallet to get baldur's gate 3, then felt a pit in my stomach as i was about to purchase it, then decided not to. looking to get something else. this might be it
Looks like that yeah, fallout type shooting and mission gameplay with some freelancer type spaceship bits inbetween the different planets.
>fallout type shooting
The gunplay looks much better than even modded fallout 4, they seriously worked on it since last year's gameplay reveal. It doesn't look like the cartoonish gunplay from fallout.
To be honest I've never really understood people saying the gunplay looks bad or good. Its pointing a gun at enemies and shooting. It looks the same whatever shooter it is. The way it feels might be different, but the way it looks? What are people seeing that makes some gunplay look good or bad to them?
I suppose the right way to say it would be something like "it looks like it's going to feel bad/good" just based on sound design, gun design, animations, enemy reactions, time it takes to kill someone, etc.
Yeah fair enough.
>fallout 4's combat was for midwits
What xactly was wrong with it? Or rather, what about it was worse than a "regular" FPS /shooter game?
Its pretty simple
>Good Gunplay
>Loud/Loud enough
>Defined particle effects on gunfire and/or bullet
>dynamic enemy reaction
>blood
>Interesting looking guns that stick to a core theme
>Bethesda gunplay
>sound usually bugs out or glitches
>partifle effects usually glitch out or crash the game
>enemies cycle through canned animation_04 through canned animation_24 when shot
>blood
>bad gun designs that god had no had in creating or copy pasted from black isle
its gunna be great.
>sound usually bugs out or glitches
>partifle effects usually glitch out or crash the game
Why make shit up?
Gun animations/model/damage output and ragdolls.
Enemies that get thrown 10 meters back by a bullet look goofy, and generic death/damage animations look very out of date.
No one wants bullet sponges and guns that feel like toys.
yes, oblivion in space with guns
it's available day 1 on gamepass for 10 to 15 dollars, so save your money.
25 actually. I'm not a poorgay like you.
4090 btw.
toddbros, we ARE going to beat BG3 right?
unless bethesda don't do what it have done for 20 years and do somethig genuily good without the habitual bethesda downsides, no
totk is a better contender, AC6 might have a chance if it perform better than expected, it's actually big in japan, still everything point to BG3 winning it
That's not my Todd
Why is Saw-guy in that pic?
>day 1 gamepass
>amd giving it away
It’s going to be BAD
wait let me get this straight
if I pre-purchase for 85$ on Steam rn, I get to play 5 days earlier, but on release on 6th of September it will cost 70$?
do I get this right?
Uhhh no, theres a premium version that gives early access and also the first DLC when it comes out, and a regular verion that you will have to wait a few days more to play
so what the frick is this then
this is an equivalent of around 86 dollars
why does it cost so much?
will it cost less on launch?
this is ridiculous
you see it's 2023 and it's very expensive to make games nowadays and stuffs
Just regular version I guess, this is what I see
59 pounds that's 303zł in my money
but for me the price is 349zł
this is fricking ridiculous
why do poorer countries have cheaper prices
wait a minute
would it be possible for someone from another country to gift me the game if I give them the money? I have some trusted friends from USA
it also got some kind of dlc, some cosmetics, and a digital artbook
so on release it will be less?
I don't have to buy this for this price?
no clue mate, just trying to make sense of what's on steam page, stopped giving bethesda money years ago
It will be same price on release. Do you have two versions available like the normal and premium? Or just trhe one?
this is the cheaper one
I think I'll try the friend-from-another-country-gift route
The cheaper one is just preodering the normal game, same price now or when it comes out, the more expensive one gives 5 days early access + included the DLC when it comes out. Or it on gamepass too
70€ so 310 zloty; poles are getting ripped off.
Kino, Todd will save gaming yet again
lmao at Todd saying
>when you step into the new world and you GET THAT FEELING OF UNLIMITED POSSIBILITIES
what i feel when i load a bethesda game is unlimited dungeons i have to clear and countless raiders to kill. That's like the first thing that comes to mind.
Theres long videos of gameplay reveals anyway, anyone can get a good idea what to expect.
yeah AC6 look like it's gonna be a banger
The guns look like an imprvement over Fallout 4 anyway. Its an improvement having their own IP and not being bound by pre-existing lore. I mean the square shotgun looked a bit off sure, and there was a revolver I saw that didn't revolve. But I'm sure it will be fine. Littel details.
KINO
IN
SPACE
>B-B-B-BUT TAKING OFF AND LANDING IS A CUTSCENE
Just a reminder that the best space game ever made also does this.
The best space game is objectively Star Control 2, thougheverbeit.
alright you got me there
let me correct to first/third person space sim game then
sorry todd but I'll just keep fricking that bear.
snoy sisters we still have black spiderman right?
Can’t wait to see how fricked this game is with the Series S handicap holding it back. If that piece of shit can’t handle an isometric strategy game like BG3, Starfield is going to be as shallow as Minecraft, No Man’s Sky and Fallout 76.
I have a PC moron and that still won’t be able to make up for the limits of the Series S. They may as well release on the Xbox One X since that is more powerful than the Series S.
Parity = Equity, it’s doomed.
post specs
sorry anon, I'll need better proof than that
dont know why youre so angry about it then. youve got an ok pc and should be able to run it alright.
wait till it comes out before you start seething
I am pissed about the wasted potential, the Series S is holding back all cross platform releases including PC games. As long as they are only allowed to be good as the lowest common denominator this entire generation is being squandered. All we get is 4k texture mods and they consider it Next Gen. It is the reason all we get are Remakes with upgraded visual modifications.
that's fair mate but it's how the industry is. Games aren't just for people with high end systems, they try to make them for everyone
reserve your judgement until it releases. you never know it might be good
They should just make consoles roughly the same with the cheaper model omitting a disc drive, by making a baby version each gen is what ruined the last gen. Every game had to be playable on OG Xbox One and that thing was a moron.
not him, but usually you need a timestamp to be credible
I didn’t want their RAM so I picked the cheapest they had and put 16gb Crucial Ballistix Max DDR4-5100 mhz instead.
why on earth would you want a game to fail anon?
I saw what happened to Cyberpunk 2077 because they needed it to play on last gen consoles and the Series S is weaker than those systems. The Xbox One X and PS4 Pro are more powerful than the Series S, so unless it has cel shaded graphics to make up for that limitation it’s going to be brainless.
>Cyberpunk 2077
i had completely forgot this most hyped game of all time, jesus christ what a fricking joke it was
>why would anyone want to see casuals and console kiddies cry!?
oh the hugh manatee!!
Bethesda games have always been able to run at lower settings so it’ll be fine. It’ll probably load slower, be 30fps locked and look like FO4
>looks like a game from 2012 but runs like a game from 2032
you just keep hitting the home runs ted!
The game looks good though? The dynamic lghting and face model detail (even there are creaturas) look like they’re from late 2010s at the earliest.
Having a game that’s able to run on lower settings doesn’t mean it won’t look good on higher settings.
This thing is going to crash and burn and AC6 is going to kill it.
guess they never learn
welcome back space cowboys
we're going home
>it's actually 30 days
holy shit, NO
It was nowhere near completion when they showed us the trailers couple of months back
This game need at least a year of polishing
didn't you see the direct juan?
Baldur's Gate 3: Bocchi the Rock!
Starfield: Chainsaw Man
I don't remember Bocchi being a troony show
>CGDCT
Sure Anon
Starfield plainly looks like shit
I'll play it anyway, but I wont like it
save the money and just but space engine
>travel instantly to space
>no loading screens
>models the entire universe to scale
>ted cant even get 1 galaxy down
>no minorities
>no women
>just space
the good shit.
>downplaying it
>45 minute direct
it's going to be amazing
You’re only as good as the last game you released, and for Bethesda it’s Fallout 76. Take Square Enix for example, the last thing they released before the abysmal FFXVI was Forspoken.
the backpedalling and rage from snoys when this masterpiece releases is going to be glorious
>goys fighting each other over which plastic toy has the most corporate backers
>stack XBL Gold passes to get 3 years of game pass for less than the cost of Starfield and Forza 8
>get to play them all day -5 to day 1
>playing anything on the back catalogue while waiting,
>plus get anything new under the MS/Activision belt as a bonus
>can also just watch latest PS5 movie on youtube
snoys on suicide watch
at least if it's shit we'll know "early" due to the preorder access