>Mega Gengar was almost put in AG t-twice!!
Dumbass, Mega Rayquaza's the reason AG even exists. It was so strong they had to make a banlist for their banlist, just because other Megas might potentially make their way to it YEARS later doesn't mean they're remotely close in scope.
How does that make M-Fug outclass M-Gengar though, when they run completely different sets even in AG and are both viable there? Absolute moron. The first time M-Gengar was almost “banned from Ubers” was during XY, which was before Rayquaza’s mega existed in the first place. But you’re probably too young to remember that.
Doesn't matter what sets they run, they all compete for the same Mega slot you moron, their sheer exclusivity directly forces them to be compared against each other. And if Mega Ray's on the table and you pick another Mega over it in any situation, you picked wrong. Also, they weren't going to "ban Mega Gengar from Ubers" in fricking XY, they were suspect testing (aka rigged system that was never going to allow it) to ban Gengarite specifically which means it still wouldn't make a banlist's banlist just to accommodate its mere existence.
>And if Mega Ray's on the table and you pick another Mega over it in any situation, you picked wrong
Objectively incorrect, otherwise those mons wouldn’t even be ranked or used in the first place. moron.
moron tier post. AG or an equivalent was something people had been arguing for since 2009 because of absolutely broken mons in the meta like Arceus. The mindset of “Ubers isn’t a tier, it’s a banlist” was the only thing holding it back until enough people started treating it like an actual tier during the tail end of BW’s meta.
How does that make M-Fug outclass M-Gengar though, when they run completely different sets even in AG and are both viable there? Absolute moron. The first time M-Gengar was almost “banned from Ubers” was during XY, which was before Rayquaza’s mega existed in the first place. But you’re probably too young to remember that.
>You can run a shitty dragon type with 5 other good mon.
Proves nothing, you autist
2 years ago
Anonymous
>still not explaining how it’s outclassed
ok anon, whatever you say
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because not only is it an inferior special attacking regi, it's also a shitty dragon type
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good thing you run it as a physical sweeper then. Which Regieleki can’t do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wild Charge and Extreme speed + transitor. It has the option to, but why do that when it can hang with the big boys and OHKO the majorities of mons via rising voltage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>electric takedown and non stab espeed >sweeping anything
lolno
2 years ago
Anonymous
Considering that it outspeed most scarfers and pick off priorities with extreme speed, it's still more viable than whatever experimental set you have on regidraco
2 years ago
Anonymous
>experimental
you mean the most standard sets. Also >252+ Atk Life Orb Regieleki Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Pheromosa: 221-260 (78 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
there’s a reason almost nobody runs espeed eleki on offense sets, it’s weak as shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
>One is to pick off tool =/= main offense
What I'm saying is that it has way better options even on the physical side
Also people prefer utilizes via screens + rapid spin. There is a reason why it's placed firmly in the meta while Regidraco is an outclassed mess in the lower tiers. Put Regieleki in the same tier as Regidrago is see what happens. Simply outclassed by other dragons
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's placed firmly in the meta
It’s not. It performs poorly in OU despite its actual usage and does even worse in Natdex formats where it’s abject dogshit. >What I'm saying is that it has way better options even on the physical side
Where? Nobody runs espeed on it even on physical sets as a “pick off tool”, again, because it’s weak. It’s not a “physical sweeper” as was somehow being argued here
Wild Charge and Extreme speed + transitor. It has the option to, but why do that when it can hang with the big boys and OHKO the majorities of mons via rising voltage.
either, as it can’t boost its offenses meaningfully and none of its sets can actually sweep. >Put Regieleki in the same tier as Regidrago is see what happens.
You’d see them running different roles as one is a support spinner/screen setter and the other a physical sweeper, as well as having different types and movesets. It’s not like they’d logically even compete for the same teamslot in any capacity.
Wild Charge is really strong with Transistor, I don't about OU but in Ubers physical Regieleki is good.
It’s a pretty niche pick in both tiers. It’s OU by usage but isn’t super great there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What does Regidrago’s viability, or any other dragon’s for that matter, have to do with Regieleki’s viability at all? Regieleki is competing with other fast electric types, not dragon type DDance/scale shot sweepers.
You’re comparing apples to oranges lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Regieleki is competing with other fast electric types
and other fast mons as well. It's a revenge kill and lead mon. Regidrago's movepool is so shit that it has absolutely no utility as a nuker which Regileki also does overall better. At least Regileki can set up screens, pivot and rapid spin. Drago can't do shit with Base 80 speed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Put Regieleki in the same tier as Regidrago is see what happens.
This already happened in UU a year ago and Regidrago actually did better in the tier than Regieleki.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wild Charge is really strong with Transistor, I don't about OU but in Ubers physical Regieleki is good.
Moxie and Intimidate are good abilities, but that is also shared somewhat by Incineroar and totally by Krookodile who have better stats, movepool and typing. It's power output pales in comparison to Absol or hell even Alolan-Raticate. Any snarl support it can do is outclassed by pokemon like Mandibuzz.
Again, good abilities, but none of the tools to make use of them.
Scarf Regidrago or Specs under TR will have the chance to sweep teams with dynamax removed in SV. It's basically dragon type Kyogre with less special attack and less easy to remove "weather bonus"(Misty Terrain)
Okay, you compare flareon to other eeveelutions, zamazenta to the other box legendary, regidrago to other regis, but what the frick you compare flygon with? Other dragons? There are worse choices that Flygon there.
Every Mega that's not Rayquaza
Except this fricker who almost made AG twice.
>Mega Gengar was almost put in AG t-twice!!
Dumbass, Mega Rayquaza's the reason AG even exists. It was so strong they had to make a banlist for their banlist, just because other Megas might potentially make their way to it YEARS later doesn't mean they're remotely close in scope.
How does that make M-Fug outclass M-Gengar though, when they run completely different sets even in AG and are both viable there? Absolute moron. The first time M-Gengar was almost “banned from Ubers” was during XY, which was before Rayquaza’s mega existed in the first place. But you’re probably too young to remember that.
Doesn't matter what sets they run, they all compete for the same Mega slot you moron, their sheer exclusivity directly forces them to be compared against each other. And if Mega Ray's on the table and you pick another Mega over it in any situation, you picked wrong. Also, they weren't going to "ban Mega Gengar from Ubers" in fricking XY, they were suspect testing (aka rigged system that was never going to allow it) to ban Gengarite specifically which means it still wouldn't make a banlist's banlist just to accommodate its mere existence.
>And if Mega Ray's on the table and you pick another Mega over it in any situation, you picked wrong
Objectively incorrect, otherwise those mons wouldn’t even be ranked or used in the first place. moron.
>t-they weren’t thinking about banning it from Ubers, they were just thinking about banning it from Ubers!
lol
moron tier post. AG or an equivalent was something people had been arguing for since 2009 because of absolutely broken mons in the meta like Arceus. The mindset of “Ubers isn’t a tier, it’s a banlist” was the only thing holding it back until enough people started treating it like an actual tier during the tail end of BW’s meta.
Farceus does predate the Mgeng testing.
Mega Salamence
regidrago isn't outclassed
Don't lie to yourself. Regieleki is clearly the better counterpart
They have completely different roles, typings, and movepools.
You can say that about every Pokemon, the point is, it sucks
Also you can only pick one per game similar to how Zacian outclasses Zamazenta
Lmao
>you can only play by MY rules
Which one did you pick, anon. Don't tell me you chose shield version, get the rapid strike urshifu, and regidrago
I can run both on the same team with completely different roles that the other can’t do at all. You don’t know what “outclassed” means.
>You can run a shitty dragon type with 5 other good mon.
Proves nothing, you autist
>still not explaining how it’s outclassed
ok anon, whatever you say
Because not only is it an inferior special attacking regi, it's also a shitty dragon type
Good thing you run it as a physical sweeper then. Which Regieleki can’t do.
Wild Charge and Extreme speed + transitor. It has the option to, but why do that when it can hang with the big boys and OHKO the majorities of mons via rising voltage.
>electric takedown and non stab espeed
>sweeping anything
lolno
Considering that it outspeed most scarfers and pick off priorities with extreme speed, it's still more viable than whatever experimental set you have on regidraco
>experimental
you mean the most standard sets. Also
>252+ Atk Life Orb Regieleki Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Pheromosa: 221-260 (78 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
there’s a reason almost nobody runs espeed eleki on offense sets, it’s weak as shit
>One is to pick off tool =/= main offense
What I'm saying is that it has way better options even on the physical side
Also people prefer utilizes via screens + rapid spin. There is a reason why it's placed firmly in the meta while Regidraco is an outclassed mess in the lower tiers. Put Regieleki in the same tier as Regidrago is see what happens. Simply outclassed by other dragons
>it's placed firmly in the meta
It’s not. It performs poorly in OU despite its actual usage and does even worse in Natdex formats where it’s abject dogshit.
>What I'm saying is that it has way better options even on the physical side
Where? Nobody runs espeed on it even on physical sets as a “pick off tool”, again, because it’s weak. It’s not a “physical sweeper” as was somehow being argued here
either, as it can’t boost its offenses meaningfully and none of its sets can actually sweep.
>Put Regieleki in the same tier as Regidrago is see what happens.
You’d see them running different roles as one is a support spinner/screen setter and the other a physical sweeper, as well as having different types and movesets. It’s not like they’d logically even compete for the same teamslot in any capacity.
It’s a pretty niche pick in both tiers. It’s OU by usage but isn’t super great there.
What does Regidrago’s viability, or any other dragon’s for that matter, have to do with Regieleki’s viability at all? Regieleki is competing with other fast electric types, not dragon type DDance/scale shot sweepers.
You’re comparing apples to oranges lol.
>Regieleki is competing with other fast electric types
and other fast mons as well. It's a revenge kill and lead mon. Regidrago's movepool is so shit that it has absolutely no utility as a nuker which Regileki also does overall better. At least Regileki can set up screens, pivot and rapid spin. Drago can't do shit with Base 80 speed.
>Put Regieleki in the same tier as Regidrago is see what happens.
This already happened in UU a year ago and Regidrago actually did better in the tier than Regieleki.
Wild Charge is really strong with Transistor, I don't about OU but in Ubers physical Regieleki is good.
Do you know what outclassed means?
except by every dragon type pseudo but yeah
Right. It's just bad.
It’s not bad either.
(if you compare it to Alolan Ninetales)
Still blows my mind how bad they fricked up Zamazenta.
Mightyena.
Moxie and Intimidate are good abilities, but that is also shared somewhat by Incineroar and totally by Krookodile who have better stats, movepool and typing. It's power output pales in comparison to Absol or hell even Alolan-Raticate. Any snarl support it can do is outclassed by pokemon like Mandibuzz.
Again, good abilities, but none of the tools to make use of them.
the poor man's quagsire
Or the counterfeiters' Swampert
Or how the boomer pays for his coffee
Scarf Regidrago or Specs under TR will have the chance to sweep teams with dynamax removed in SV. It's basically dragon type Kyogre with less special attack and less easy to remove "weather bonus"(Misty Terrain)
So it's a shitty eruption/water spout user.
That would be Wailord and Camerupt. Regidrago will arguably be the best one after Kyogre.
Outside regidraco's pokedex entry
Is there any mention of "dragon energy"?
Okay, you compare flareon to other eeveelutions, zamazenta to the other box legendary, regidrago to other regis, but what the frick you compare flygon with? Other dragons? There are worse choices that Flygon there.
10 bucks it's a >gets cucked by garchomp ref