Nomai have a simple way to get right next to the eye (quantum moon)
Yet they decide to
> send probes in random directions
> use a timeloop to send infinite probes
> create statues to record memory and be able to stop the timeloop someday
> make the sun explode to power all that shit
They weren't even able to be successful in the first step
Any scientific mind would start by trying simple solutions from what they already know
Instead those dumb fricks go for a complex bloated solution that rely on many assumptions
They deserved to die
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that's great but you are totally fricking wrong and should stop posting
No, their plan 100% did work except they were unable to explode the sun. And then before they could remedy the problem they all died out of nowhere from something they couldn't predict.
>And then before they could remedy the problem they all died out of nowhere from something they couldn't predict.
You can't possibly tell me this is good writing. I don't buy it when people praise the plot.
random disasters happen sometimes in the vast infinite of the universe
>random magical disasters that conveniently kills only the members of the ancient advanced civilization and do no significant damage to their infrastructure just to set up the plot of a video game about exploring ancient civilization's ruins just happens sometimes
THEY'RE NOT EVEN LIVING IN THE LOOP
ONLY YOU AND GABBRO EXPERIENCE THE LOOP
NOTHING PHYSICAL IS SENT BACK IN THE LOOP
WHY THE FRICK ARE YOU STILL ACTING LIKE "CONTINUING" THE LOOP IS PRESERVING ANYONE WHEN THE WHOLE GAME MAKES IT CLEAR THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING ON
LITERALLY ALL THE ATP DOES IS SENS YOU AND GABBRO'S MEMORIES BACK IN TIME
>random magical disaster
IT'S A METEOR FILLED WITH SUPERCOMPRESSED RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL EXPLODING AND GIVING EVERYONE SUPERCANCER
THE SPECIES YOU PLAY AS ONLY LIVES BECAUSE THE MATERIAL IS NEUTRALIZED BY WATER AND YOU PLAY AS AN AQUATIC SPECIES
THERE IS NOTHING MAGICAL ABOUT IT
HAVE ANY OF YOU homosexualS EVEN PLAYED THE FRICKING GAME
anon he literally is typing words to piss you off
Yeah it is fricking magical dipshit.
Go ahead and name some chemical accidents that only killed the apex predators without fricking with the water or infrastructure.
Make sure the source of it is from an comet too.
Also it has to be solar-system wide.
A meteorite that killed dinosaurs allowing mammals to take over?
Caused and explosion so giant it deformed the landscape. Tell me about the houses (and furniture) build around the impact zone and survived.
The dinosaur fossils survived though. But yeah, not the structures that they built.
When we're exploring dinosaur made space stations you can tell me how that magic radiation comet isn't magic.
It is bullshit magic, I don't argue with that. But your post literally described the asteroid and dinosaurs, I think it was funny.
By literally described you mean ignoring the "infrastructure and water" part, and the solar system wide part.
Bet you wouldn't want to drink the water near a recent asteroid impact.
you're telling me these little fricks managed to survive a global catastrophe that wiped out all life bigger than a breadbox?
Are you trying to argue that extinction events are bad writing?
Actually, literally yes
>radioactive matter bomb that goes through walls, across space and can't penetrate water
>also your race evolved from frogs so you were all underwater when this happened which is why you're not dead too
matter bomb that goes through walls, across space and can't penetrate water
Radiation isn't magic that gets stopped by water and literally nothing else. It does get stopped by walls. You don't know what you're talking about.
radiation does get stopped by water though. water is highly absorbant to the energy levels that dangerous radiation exitst at
You can't read cause I never said water doesn't stop radiation.
Ghost matter, the fictional radioactive element that was invented for this story, does pass through walls and is stopped by water
Source: the ghost matter exhibit on timber hearth
It's shills and the couple of people who cannot see anything they like criticized. The writing is at times bad.
but you couldn't do anything from the moon when it spawns near the eye, no?
You can't directly go in the eye but they could have tried to get the coordinates from there, it's not mentinned that they tried
it's been awhile since I played it but I recall your probe and some other equipment goes crazy while on the moon so I imagine you couldn't just pinpoint the coordinates like that because of quantum frickery
They tried that, it's the purpose of the quantum moon locator. Turns out that when the quantum moon is near the Eye you cannot track it.
Why? Because frick you that's why.
Literally because of the traveler blocking it.
Because the dumbass birds are blocking it, dipshit
Did you play the dlc ?
Considering you can't see yourself on the map while on the quantum moon, nor does your signal scope see any signals properly, your technology isn't able to derive coordinates that way, and neither was the Nomai's.
For their plan to work they had to make the sun explode, time travel, have memory statues, while they could have just launched a probe from the quantum moon
But outer wilds fanboys are too degenerate to question the plot
what happens when you launch a probe from the quantum moon
>while they could have just launched a probe from the quantum moon
That doesn't work. You can't reach the eye from the moon. Just try launching your own probe there (or fly up there yourself) and see what happens.
You smoothbrain motherfricker. They didn't solve the quantum moon. That's why Solaris or whatever is just chilling there.
They designed the probe spam before they got there, then they failed at detonating the sun. They had to then wait until the natural end of the star's life, but got wiped out by the exotic matter bombardments from the comet long before that could happen.
Then your species evolves and you get caught in their loop and use it to figure out their plans and see them to completion.
Then the end of the game reveals a bit more spoiler shit.
t;dr: You didn't understand some key plot elements. Try again.
When of my favorite moments in the game is when I figured out that they weren't making the sun explode, but instead it was at it's natural life span and there was nothing you could do to stop it.
I remember my stomach really dropping when I had that realization.
That and figuring out what the interlocutor was were two of the best moments in the game.
Is the DLC any good?
>Is the DLC any good?
Yes, it's really good. It made me feel the things the original game did all over again.
Yeah, Quantum Moon doesn't feel particularly used well by them even though it'd apparently already infiltrated their culture to a coming-of-age level - but also probe spam wasn't a last-ditch desperate plan, it was just a plan by one team that they were sure would work, and does, but they all got KO'd by Final Fantasy Spirits Within beams.
Outer Wilds involves a lot of promising plans and lives getting cut short.
Pretty good, just remember if you're trying to use stealth you're doing things the very bad way. It'll make sense later.
No the DLC is shit
lore wise it's great, gameplay wise i found it very unpolished and annoying to play. Give it an honest chance but dont bother hitting your head against the wall too long or you'll end up like me hating it and ruining the few good things it has
The interloper. The worst part of the story really. "I wrote myself into a corner, so I just kill everyone".
I mean they needed some justification for why all the Nomai are dead. Also at least it ties into gameplay with ghost matter being around.
and the player is mildly led to believe it might be responsible for the supernova at first, giving you a reason to go there
That would be the Sun Station. Another disappointing part, because you don't learn anything new by getting there I think. I may be remembering wrong wrong, but the fact that it did not work you learn from somewhere else as well.
nah, the Interloper passes really close to the sun and it starts visibly aging pretty much right after so it would be pretty easy for someone who noticed to draw the conclusion that the Interloper caused it, and that's likely by design
I'm pretty sure you do find out the Sun Station failed on the Sun Station, but beyond that you also get confirmation the sun is at the end of its natural life cycle, and that it's been almost 300K years since the Nomai were wiped out
Well, you post is somewhat contradictory. Either the Sun was already at the end if its life cycle, or the evil matter (don't remember the exact name) brought it close to the end. However I don't think it matters enough to argue about it.
I'm saying the Interloper was intentionally used as a red herring, like the Sun Station, to give the player the false idea that it is responsible for the sun exploding, not that it actually caused the sun to explode.
Ok, I now see your point.
>the Sun was already at the end if its life cycle
it's not just your sun, it's every sun, the universe was coming to an end
I think you're mistaken. I distinctly remember thinking the interloper was the cause of the sun exploding. For this reason I sat and watched the map with the sun for the entire duration of a reset. If you do it this way, you see that the sun starts changing before it comes into contact with the interloper.
see
. You still thought the Interloper caused the supernova, which was (likely) intended.
Oh I agree with the red herring part for sure!
I disagree with
>the Interloper passes really close to the sun and it starts visibly aging pretty much right after
The aging happens before interloper contact
Someone who wasn't watching closely could come to that conclusion. And as you said yourself, you only noticed when you sat and watched.
I agree with this.
But I think you were still mistaken when you wrote
>the Interloper passes really close to the sun and it starts visibly aging pretty much right after
I just wanted to point this out, because I feel a lot of people haven't actually watched the sun transform for a loop and it's pretty cool. And it's pretty cool that you can derive some knowledge about the game from just watching its map screen for 20 minutes. I'm not disagreeing with you in general, I'm just posting cool facts that contradict a part of your post.
The interloper looped around the sun the exact same way for thousands of years, seeing as the nomai landed on it before they all died and that it's in hearthian solar system models and images so one can infer that it's not directly causing the sun to explode in this one orbit
the Interloper actually crashes into the sun in the loop
Yeah because the sun expands enough to get in the way of the interloper's orbit
It's actually the sun that expands into it
You are remembering wrong
>but the fact that it did not work you learn from somewhere else as well
It's mentioned in the ash twin project chamber as well.
What was the interloper?
The comet that killed the nomai
The DLC is better than the base game, and goes out of its way to explain why the eye became silent, and why the moon couldn't be used to detect the eye. It's really great.
They did solve the quantum moon, it is said that it is a typical pilgrimage to learn about quantum shit
Solanum (the guy on the moon) doesn't even know about the probe spam, they solved quantum moon way before ash link project
tldr: you haven't played the game for 3 years so stfu
>Solanum (the guy on the moon)
*gal
I was pretty fricking sick of the they/them pronouns that made every conversation with more than 2 people incomprehensible
This only applies to the Heartheans. The Nomai are either male or female.
esl sighted
The Nomai use gendered pronouns, only the Hearthians use they
You're complaining about the good part of the plot, ignoring all the drivel written by a literal femoid "professional writer".
such as?
The whole ending, transgender aliens.
I see, your own schizo headcanon
Literally not a thing, show any proofs.
Hearthians being gender neutral is not a proof, these are literal aliens so I give it a pass
It's also SPECIFICALLY only the Hearthians. The Nomai have genders, meanwhile the Hearthians are all autistic hermaphroditic space frogs that care more about launching themselves into space with rickety wooden bullshit than anything else.
You are a braindead fricking moron. have a nice day moron.
Please explain how the game has anything to do with trannies.
"They" is a troony pronoun.
How else would you refer to a race of hermaphroditic frogs?
I don't care. They were made like this by a femoid with agenda so they are trannies.
You're missing the point. Your reward for reaching the Eye is a hallucination. It's bad.
Your reward for reaching the Eye is seeing a new universe being born
Do I give a frick? I killed all my friends to reach the Eye and it didn't matter a tiny bit.
>I killed all my friends
You didn't do shit, did you even pay attention to the game?
your friends were going to die anyway, and you got to hang out with them one last time in Quantum Heaven before looking out on a brave new universe full of new adventures
>Anon, the heat death of the universe wasn't your fault. You have to let us go.
You entering the Eye didn't end the universe. Time around you just sped up to that point and then you reset everything.
>You entering the Eye didn't end the universe.
The dlc says otherwise.
The owls' vision specifically shows that interacting with the eye destroys everything.
the owls were morons who got it wrong and panicked. The universe was ending regardless.
Except there's nothing in game suggesting that their vision was wrong in any way. You're simply choosing to ignore what was in the game in favor of your own head canon.
Also, remember that the owls and nomai were around 200000 years before the events of the game. The universe was a decent ways away from dying at that point.
See above
The dlc doesn't stop being canon just because you don't like it.
their vision was wrong because the universe was already going through heat death before you ever set foot in the Eye, simple as. They had a vision of the two things happening simultaneously, and thought correlation equals causation (like you, ironically)
>their vision was wrong because the universe was already going through heat death before you ever set foot in the Eye, simple as.
Except it wasn't when they had the vision 200000 years ago.
wow their vision of the future was a vision of the future? Tell me more.
Except it was specifically a vision of them interacting with the eye then and there, not you interaction with the eye 200000 years from then.
And their vision of themselves interacting with the eye right then and there showed them that it'd destroy everything.
>wow, a vision works like vision?
Are you moronic?
Can't help but notice you've stopped trying to make any actual arguments. It's almost as if you don't actually have any and you're just desperately trying to draw out the argument by making inane posts to avoid having to admit that your head canon is wrong. I'll gladly take that as a concession.
Rhetorical irony like that are arguments, you're just too moronic to realize you're being a moron
I don't care about canon. I'm taking the first game at face value without attempts at retconning what is objectively a disappointing videogame story.
>See above
Why? Doesn't contradict anything that was said. The owls are right about the eye, it acts as a reset switch that creates a new universe on top of the current universe which was probably a really big deal to them hundreds of thousands if not millions of years ago but hardly makes a difference in the present where the heat death of the universe is just around the corner. You either go there and create a new universe or you let the heat death happen and doom all of existence into an eternity of oblivion.
the stars are all dying. you entering the eye is the first person to set foot since the beginning of our universe.
if you don't restart the universe you'd be stuck in heat death for all eternity
If anything, we should disregard any retcons made in the DLC.
you can really tell who used a guide to beat the game because only someone following a guide wouldn't have explored the Nomai Vessel the first time they found it and read all the new and old messages about everything in the universe dying at a rapidly exponential rate.
Nope, because this 75 IQ moron followed a guide he didn't discover the vessel until he needed to reach it with the warp core.
Congratulations, moron. You ruined a unique game experience because you got frustrated with your broken brain and weren't smart enough to ask for hints instead of solutions.
Nah I think it was the supernova that killed them.
You didn't kill anyone, the sun is naturally going supernova and the only ones aware of the loop are you and the chill flute player hanging out on Giants Deep.
Your posts are very low IQ
>turning into literal fantasy for girls in the ending
what the hell are you talking about
I'm talking about the ending sequence where you're playing the song of your people. In a sci fi story it's as cringe as being teleported into a bookshelf and overall very disappointing. An otherwise good game ruined by this and the constant resets.
>use music to track down each of the other explorers
>even the tutorial for the signalscope is tracking music
>NOOOOO HOW COULD THIS THEME COME BACK AT THE END OF THE GAME
> tfw I tried to save Solanum by taking a photo of her and running to her body
You could've just made a regular thread instead of just posting shitty bait like a moron
All Outer Wilds threads are like this. It's a Hindu shill and a couple people who played the game arguing about the same things.
Something about outer wilds threads seems to attract literal 90 IQ morons who can't comprehend the most basic of storytelling or problem solving. Like this game isn't that hard nor do you need to be smart to beat it. All that is required is simply PAYING ATTENTION. I fricking HATE EVERYONE AHHHHH
I like how mad trannies and sociopaths are at a few simple observations.
> You pulled the plug on your friends
> You did it without their knowledge or consent
> You did it to reach the Eye
> Reaching the Eye didn't do anything. You gambled your friends' lives and lost.
> You get a romcom-grade hallucination as a "reward"
First, your actions are unethical and I don't like that the game railroads you into them. Second, this is just disappointing (cf. people b***hing about the ending of Scorn, where you just suddenly die).
This is what I get as a response:
> Name calling
> REEEEE
> HERMAPHRODITE FROGS
> UNIVERSE WAS GOING TO END ANYWAY
> (Not yet in this thread) YOU JUST WANTED A HAPPY ENDING
I can only kek at you people.
How exactly did you pull the plug on your friends? Did you miss the fact the sun literally explodes? Or the fact the entire universe dies? What are you even talking about.
Ok, I have a bit of energy left to argue in good faith.
> Before taking the energy source from the Ash Twin: You can talk to your friends and touch them
> After: All your friends are dead
Therefore, your actions killed them.
> The universe is going to die anyway
The universe time scale is very long. It could take millions of years.
>The universe time scale is very long. It could take millions of years.
you can literally watch each and every star in the universe explode in the 22 minutes of real time
you can literally see all the stars in the sky going supernova, the sky is practically empty by the end of the loop
Your eye sees a minority of stars and most of them are in our galaxy.
The vessel is still receiving messages from other nomai ships and they make it pretty clear that things aren't looking much better in other galaxies and that the universe is dying.
Do I care if it's "dying". I don't see any indication when it will die, so I find it unethical to euthanize your friends now, just because you don't know what else to do.
you mean besides the sun and all the stars in the sky exploding?
All stars in the sky is not an argument. Only a small portion of stars that exist at different distances and therefore exploded at different times. There's no indication why your Sun will be the last one.
But that's part of the issue. Second part, the game leads you to believe that reaching the Eye is something good, except it's not. Apparently the DLC came up with some bullshit why it is actually something good, but I don't care. In the base game you literally euthanize everyone because you have no idea what you're doing.
>I'm going to doom my friends to an eternity of dying in a supernova because uhhhhh ethics or something
the star is going to kill everyone in the system
as you watch, other stars across the galaxy kill their systems as well
what is the eye doing that isn't already happening?
It lets a living observer view the next universe and collapse the quantum possibilities into a stable state.
> In a world that was ever getting more complex as I explored it
> At this particular moment I'm sure I explored all of it
> And I'm sure there are two possible outcomes
> Because there may not be anything else
the Nomai vessel gets messages from other still-living Nomai that the universe is ending
So what? How long until it ends?
not very long if all the visible stars in the sky are going supernova at coincidentally the perfect times for you to see it happening in the 20 minutes before your own sun goes supernova
Not a proof. The Sun getting brighter before supernova just makes the stars invisible in the sky.
you can see stars explode long before the sun starts expanding
This does not mean they all explode at the same time.
Ok, sure, but they've all exploded.
you can use the signalscope to watch the stars explode
also not how light works in a vaccuum
you can literally see the explosions
Did you play the fricking game you absolute drooling waste of space and air? Or did you let a letsplayer experience it for you ?
have a nice day troony
>I find it unethical to euthanize your friends now
Good thing you don't have to. The sun does it for you.
> Guns kill people
You're not responsible for the supernova.
> You're not responsible for that the gun shoots when you pull the trigger
You don't pull the trigger on the sun though.
> But you didn't manufacture the gun
>you didn't aim the gun
>you didn't arm the gun
>you didn't pull the trigger
yeah, I can do that too
> The gun was manufactured
> The gun was aimed
> It remains to pull the trigger
> It's ethical to kill if no one will know about it
>the gun was manufactured
no it wasn't?
How did you kill someone? You don't trigger the sun to go supernova.
they visibly erupt!
frick
Who the frick manufactured the sun? Is God canon in the game? Can you go yell at him to fix the universe?
The previous person who entered the eye of the universe did
Being stuck in a 20 minute time loop that ends with you being engulfed by a supernova is not living. It's even worse for the player character and the flute guy who are aware of this happening.
It's literally not even a real, physical timeloop, either. the only thing time traveling is your memories. There's essentially only one real "loop" that actually happens and it's the last one.
Yeah, some Californian homosexual would tell me what's living and what's not. Frick off.
> All
No proof.
>No proof.
Uh... anon, when you stand in the vessel before going to the eye of the universe, you can wait until every star in the sky is dead.
You have not played the game
End yourself troony
So you don't get killed when you're in the vessel next to the Eye?
Nope, do a run and try it. The eye is out of the supernovae's range.
I did not know that, but it is actually making things even worse.
> There's a safe space in the universe
> It's literally in the game (I only conjectured it existed)
> You can go there
> You go there yourself, pulling life support on your friends
> All your friends to die and it's your fault
I'm really disappointed now.
And how is everybody going to survive without a fricking sun you brainless monkey?
There is no safe space at the end. The eye fricking explodes and creates a new universe.
Your character also dies at the very end.
See yourself as a literal spermatozoid and the eye as an unfertilized egg.
ignoring the impossibility of the timing, the Eye isn't a "safe space." There's no light, no air, no life at all. It's just a window into the next universe that requires a living observer to activate.
You can fly out into the void and avoid dying in the supernova, but that doesn't make the void between stars a safe space.
You just described space, which is hostile until indominable human spirit makes it otherwise. You can take your time and figure what to do. You can try to find another safe space. You can enter the eye with your friends. But the ending of the game was written by an egoistic sociopath (a woman).
Oh well.
>You can take your time and figure what to do
with what resources?
>You can try to find another safe space
where? The universe is dead
>You can enter the eye with your friends
and do what? Have a singalong around the campfire then sacrifice yourself to kickstart the next universe oh wait lol
>You can enter the eye with your friends
>and do what?
Do you even listen to yourself?
> Face the unknown with your friends
vs
> Euthanize your friends and face the unknown alone
What the frick is wrong with you?
>nooo my frienderinos
For what? Have endless quantum gender-neutral orgies
Grow a fricking pair, let the aliens die, and fertilize the eye
yeah lemme just go to all five planets, navigate the wrong way through Dark Bramble to pick up Feldspar, whip back to the Ash Twin to pick up the core, then back into Dark Bramble to the Nomai vessel (don't go too fast or the anglers will getcha!), all in 20 minutes. Easy!
it's not a true time loop, anon. They're already dead.
>die to the big bang alone
>die to the big bang with your friends
Does it really make a difference?
And what exactly are you going to eat or drink on a wrecked alien spaceship with no atmosphere or oxygen? Think for once in your fricking life Black person.
You won't get killed if you're on the DLC vessel either
all the stars you can see, then, and there is evidence the rest of the universe is going in the same direction
>there is evidence
Ah yes, the "evidence", provided by "experts".
the evidence provided by a spacefaring civilization that can literally see it happening across the universe
Would you enjoy living every 20 minutes after you woke up you got burnt alive and then woke up in the same spot to go through it again for all eternity?
>No proof.
If the game explicitly states that the universe is ending and going cold, and the game shows in the eye the process of every single in the universe burning out and dying, then why would I believe anything else
If you're being told a story and have no reason to assume an unreliable narrator, do you just always go "ACTUALLY THEY MUST BE LYING" anyways
>and have no reason to assume an unreliable narrator
I have every reason to assume that a libtard troony narrator is unreliable, and in fact THEY did lead me into an unethical decision.
You will never be a real woman
Because I'm a boy (male, he/him)?
Some narrators are sure more likely to lie than others.
>Because I'm a boy (male, he/him)?
Your low I.Q. makes you unlikely to be human to begin with.
>Only justification for his moronic idea is "I just don't trust the writers over something unrelated to the narrative"
So it's nothing to do with the game but the politics of the developers? Why didn't you just do what a normal anon does and call them trannies to begin with instead of making yourself look a moron?
You can see 99% of the stars die out if you escape the supernova with the ATP disabled. You'd see the rest of them disappear too if the credits didn't start playing.
Right, you didn't nor did you fire it or compel anyone else to fire it.
What's your point?
Ah yes, main point. The stars are different distances from you meaning they explode at different times.
and the quantum uncertainty principle doesn't really apply above a subatomic level but we've got teleporting rocks. The physics of Outer Wilds are fudged to make for a more compelling story and game.
One thing is to play with teleportation (or ftl or what not) and another is to ignore basic things about space because you need to write the readers into the corner and push your philosophy on them. Yeah, the whole universe is going to disappear in 20 minutes, because the narrator is always reliable, sure.
fricking up quantum physics like that IS ignoring basic things about space
see
ahhh, I did that backwards, but you get it
>The universe time scale is very long. It could take millions of years
You can literally see every single star in the galaxy die during the 22 minute timeframe.
The universe was dying right then and there.
>I have a bit of energy left to argue in good faith
>ignores the several in-game acknowledgements that what you're witnessing is the heat death of the universe
>no trust me bro it's only this part of the universe that's dying the game is wrong
Okay I believe you.
>> You pulled the plug on your friends
the plug was already pulled, you're saying you want to keep them stuck in a 22 minute loop where they die horrifically at the end for all eternity?
>> Reaching the Eye didn't do anything.
the next universe needs an observer in order to take physical form
What would have been the ethical thing to do? Keep everyone trapped in a timeloop and suffering for an eternity with Gabbro?
> You pulled the plug on your friends
> You did it without their knowledge or consent
You literally did not. Anon, the timeloop isn't even physical. Time does not literally reset. All the loop does is send you (and Gabbro)'s memories back 22 minutes every time it activates. There is only one real "timeline", it just contains an infinitely progressing cache of your own memory until you stop it. The entire point of Outer Wilds' story is to emphasize that the experience of something contains more value than any physical impact it might have; it's your experiences which shape the new universe. What you see at the eye isn't as much of a hallucination as it is how the main character perceives reality itself and how that perception forms the basis of the next reality.
I will not let blue haired femoids impose any points on me.
The only question I have is how does the quantum moon move around when Solanum is on it? Does she blink every time I look away from it?
I find it very strange that only the small midget guy on the twin planet (Chert) seems to react to the sun going supernova. I get he's the first to notice before it happens, but he's the only one who actually reacts to it going nova while say Esther will continue talking about being lonely while sitting on the moon as he gets engulfed.
he's the only explorer that can see the sky
I dunno why the Hearthians still on Timber Hearth don't care, though
anyone who takes a nihilistic message from outer wilds is an actual brainlet with severe mental issues
I honestly don't know what's worse, that this is a troll or an autist who believes that your character somehow activated the supernova himself and that the game is troonypozzed because aliens without a gender (where are the female hearthians btw) use gender neutral terms
Every single time somebody notice a "plot hole" or incoherence, it's a fricking moronic zoomer who only experiences games through letsplayers and vtubers.
>mfw two probes
stop responding to him you morons
>it's another pick through a game with a fine tooth comb to find reasons it's bad because people like it episode
look, endlessly working through fictional logic didn't really hook me either but I can at least recognize why it's careful design would be widely regarded. don't be such obtuse morons.
>poltard angry people enjoy a good game
frick off
/pol/sissies are such homosexuals
>nooo you can't just kill the gender-neutral alienerinos, you t-t-t-troony !
Grow a pair you gigantic emotional homo
Are people so desperate for outer wilds discussion that you'll respond to this morons bait for 3 hours?
yes
I only posted in the last 40 minutes butthole. Different people can have different issues on the plot, and that's important for a game that places a huge importance on the plot. Sorry that we have different opinions.
no, it's a classic internet playbook technique that hooks into a Hunan's primal social urges. when someone is so fricking wrong you are naturally inclined to correct them because being so fricking wrong often has disastrous consequences. obviously for something like this, there is no danger, but it's a social habit that is difficult to control if you are not aware of it. shit posters intentionally aim for social habits such as these to cause maximum affect on a digital basket weaving discussion thought exchange.
>play game for the first time
>friend that already cleared the game watch me
>do everything, last thing is reaching the hourglass project
>reach it, take the core
>friend ask, you do realize what you did right?
>ye, the statues don't work now
>wait, if I die it's over then
>could put it back and wait for another loop
>but frick it, let's go
>go full speed into dark bramble
>reach the vessel
>universe explode while I'm inputting the code
Succeeding at the alst second would've been really cool
Also pretty disappointing that the game let me go back and didn't delete my save
>delete my save
What would it have changed, exactly?
Nothing, it's just for coherence since the game tie the death mechanic into the story.
Don't you get a game over with credits?
yeah but it just starts you over at your last loop
Well at the very least you would have to go look at the coordinates again unless you took a screenshot, wrote them down or memorized them.
having an empty ship log, and having to do the opening bit again
>thinking the ending scene is a hallucination
lol lmao.
The Eye is basically the closest thing to God in universe. It does whatever the frick it wants.
Even if it was a "hallucination" or a projection from the eye-sentience itself, why does it matter even?
I forget where I first heard this saying or so, but basically, if someone were to be bit by a venomous snake and die, we'd say that the snake killed him.
If someone were to hallucinate a snake biting him and die, we'd say that he died from a hysteric breakdown.
Now if YOU were that someone, you don't care if the snake is a hallucination or not. You care that there is a fricking snake trying to bite your ass. All thoughts of "subjective reality" are thrown out the window, especially when there's no-one around to contest what you're seeing. Even more so if there's nobody else AT ALL to even have the possibility of seeing you.
It's a neat thought about subjective reality.
Are your friends a hallucination? Maybe. It's possible that they are, possible that they aren't. But what matters is that they are there with YOU in the end, paving the future over the past.
The Interloper is bullcrap and so is the living Nomai just quitting. I get they getting desperate or/and cursing existence wouldn't have meshed well with the tone of the game, but why would such a driven people go "oh well the universe is done, lets group and wait for the end"?.