This is the only place where i see the nioh series being talked about, irl i know a lot of people that don't even play games that are still interested in Elden Ring.
Peak clown world, normalgays will never understand the true kino that is Nioh and Nioh 2
ER is peak reddit "hard" game for babies. Souls games in general have always been this way but it wasn't the focus. You'd be amazed at how many people knew what DaS1 was but never actually touched/played it but similar to Ninja Gaiden on xbox would spew the memes about it being impossibly hard.
>normalgays will never understand the true kino that is Nioh
Nioh is a mess that shoves in your mouth every 1 minute a new weapon/armor etc.
mob variety is non existent, you will fight the same mobs from the first area all the way to the end.
Level design is bland compared to Souls games.
I dropped Nioh somewhere in the middle, is Nioh 2 better in this regard?
>is Nioh 2 better in this regard?
Nioh 2 is basically the exact same game as Nioh 1, but it does have a handful more enemies and a slightly better level design.
This is the only place where i see the nioh series being talked about, irl i know a lot of people that don't even play games that are still interested in Elden Ring.
Peak clown world, normalgays will never understand the true kino that is Nioh and Nioh 2
says something about the quality of a game tbh. We live in a society and all
ER has 10x the women/trannies that Nioh games have but okay. Wouldn't be surprised if there were videos of people trying to confirm cast members as trannies. Meanwhile anyone still playing Nioh is just playing it.
It is Demon's Souls with significantly better gameplay and build variety but worse atmosphere and lore. If that sounds like your cup of tea then play it.
He is setting you up for failure. Don't go in expecting to play it like any of those games. You are going to want to engage with every single combat mechanic the game has. Change your stances and ki pulse/flux. Use burst counters and put like 20-30 points in both magic and dex for talismans, ninjutsu etc. Blocking is better than dodging most of the time. Most of all though just be aggressive. Learn the muscle memory for flux so you can constantly have ki (stamina). If you just play it like a souls game you are going to be bored as frick.
While you're not entirely wrong, there are some perfectly executed parries in there, as well as ki management and weapon swapping. It may look like "just button mashing" to someone who never played it, but the enemy in that webm (Fuki) is troublesome even for a seasoned player, and a newcomer would struggle to do the same motions against him without biting dirt (and he's a regular mob, that could easily pass as miniboss, same for many other DLC mobs).
Lets ignore the perfect parries and interactions with the enemy clearly attacking in between the false claim you're making eh? Too be fair i do hate the bloated life of NG+3 and beyond Nioh but that is entirely optional and at that point you can potentially get sets/gear that melt shit all the same.
holy shit what the frick makes you people think that using underleveled weapons against high level enemies makes this game look good
no one cares how much skill it took to pull this off when it's so fricking boring to watch
I don't know that guy's build but that looks about right. Enemies aren't made of paper in this game except a few of the basic humans. Like
While you're not entirely wrong, there are some perfectly executed parries in there, as well as ki management and weapon swapping. It may look like "just button mashing" to someone who never played it, but the enemy in that webm (Fuki) is troublesome even for a seasoned player, and a newcomer would struggle to do the same motions against him without biting dirt (and he's a regular mob, that could easily pass as miniboss, same for many other DLC mobs).
said that is also one of the most difficult basic enemies in the game. You are given a shitload of combat options. What fun would it be if every enemy died in a few hits? You need to understand that the game wants you to combo all of your different attacks together while managing your ki. Fights actually feel like fights.
Watching it in this format makes it look terrible. I can't speak for everyone but it never bothered me when I'm actually playing it. There are white particles that swirl around your character and right before they hit you you can ki pulse to get your ki back. I never had any issues seeing them or anything like that. It all just kind of fades from your vision when you are in the middle of a fight and you can concentrate on the enemy. Apparently there is a mod that removes them though.
wu long ding dong ching chong is Chinkoid cancer by default.
it's pig disgusting in nature. literally repulses me - which no game has ever managed to do in my entire life, with its portrayal of chinkoid bugmen homosexualry.
Don't forget the other things that are stupid/bad about it >Shit level design >Extreme difficulty imbalance (people like to cry about "artifical difficulty" in souls and even though it doesn't apply here or to souls, the sheer amount of difficulty spikes and pits makes making a graph out of it look like sine wave) >5 different mechanics that govern character growth yet all of them are poorly explained and only 2 of them actually makes any kind of sense (ilvl is fricking pointless and only makes playing the game more confusing for new players) >Most if not all of the extra character options are rendered moot by enemy design that forces players into overly defensive or offensive situations (souls also fails at this but it atleast hides it better, being a roll simulator and all that) >Graphical design and style makes the screen look like a abstract painting at times, somehow being worse than even Korean lootgrind MMOs at worst
inb4 "soulsdrone".
I don't really like souls that much either and I instead prefer DMC or Dragons Dogma if I'm looking for a more "RPG" action game. Either way, this fricking tribalism over a series that probably won't get a sequel for a long time or ever beat THAT SERIES in sales is fricking stupid, so please stop.
>Shit level design
Its functional and more arcade oriented then just being some aesthetic. It has similar looping checkpoints to Souls games/older games. Meanwhile most Souls levels are easy to run through especially in later games and not well designed. But your small meme picture brain thinks "aesthetics = good level design.". >Extreme difficulty inbalance
No? Nioh 1 and 2 besides some DLC bosses are flat out fine and the difficulty doesn't spike and become a gear check until around NG+3 and by then you've played the game twice and can choose if you want that life
They aren't poorly explained you just need to read for more then a second instead of R1/circle
Not really but it can be a bit overbearing i agree. A player just beginning might be frustrated trying to learn to ki pulse and instead decide to turtle all day as to not die and play simple because learning constant cancels can be hard.
No one believes Nioh can beat troonysoft in sales. Its just fun to see them fling shit. But i guess i agree? There is only so much i can replay DMC games before i want something new even if its not as good. I think both Nioh 2 and DMCs better titles are great. Hell i think most From games are fine even ER. But i do think they are made for people incapable of adapting to deeper mechanics.
>But i do think they are made for people incapable of adapting to deeper mechanics. >My button masher is deeper than yours!
You know, every single argument for how Nioh is "deeper" than it competitors always comes down to >There are more buttons to press=it's more DEEP
But in reality, the game never pushed players to reach that depth but it's nice that it is there for people who want it. Trying to point it out as being a better aspect vs any other game is sort of a moot point when the game never actually expects the player to utilize that depth and they instead just design obstacles around players who barely grasp how to use any of the most basic aspects of the game.
This isn't even a riff on Nioh, it's more of a riff on most if not all action games since they all fall into that same trap. Even something like DMC with all of it's deeper levels of play does this exact same thing, that doesn't make the game worse, but it does pointing out that depth as being better a moot point there too.
if you enjoy great combat and looooting or can tolerate it at least it's great. however it cut most of the stuff that the souls is famous for, such as a big interconnected world, world building, lore, you name it, the game is nearly an action game, it has mission structure, most missions are just a bunch of hallways and whatnot, no exploration, but the action is top notch, and there's a ton of content. assembling builds come late game isn't that hard either, the game is fairly generous with good loot, which is I think the main problem of looting games.
Wish I could fully enjoy this game by being allowed to go autismo with builds, especially elemental ones. I'm trying to become fire punch, and many enemies straight up can't be set on fire; same with any other elements that are not purity/corruption. Maybe I'll try to mix in thunder with water and do something storm-related.
Yeah, Elden Ring only has TWELVE TIMES the people playing it right now. Outlived as frick. That's also why this garbage only ever gets FromSoft bait threads instead of real discussion.
Take your dogshit lootgacha simulator back to resetera or reddit or wherever the frick you came from.
He is baiting you, bud. It works every single time so he keeps doing it. You're so fricking stupid you actually got tricked into thinking game is bad too.
I love Nioh, the only thing that really annoys me about it is the absurd amount of particle effects, EVERYTHING GLOWS, looks like trash but plays like a dream.
I literally only want to play Nioh because I've seen porn and created characters are all hot as frick. You mean to tell me I can run around looking like pic related? You've piqued my interest
Just enjoy yourself anon. Personally i stopped with Nioh 1/2 after NG+2 or so when i didn't feel the drive to get the stuff/make a build strong enough to keep up with the life NG+3 has on stuff. I do need to go back and play the last DLC though it came out so much later. But i think 2 playthroughs worth of content out of both games is great. The end game is definitely not for everybody. Since you can easily just play through NG/NG+ with fundamentals alone even with a shit weapon bar some DLC bosses but past that it becomes sort of a grind.
is there anything more pathetic than niohtards? 90% of the playerbase are soulstards looking for something "like dark souls" while they're waiting for the next fromsoft game. this series is cursed to forever be in fromsoft's shadow and the moronic "fans" (all 10 of them) will cope about it for all eternity
Frick you you stupid Black folk. I've been trying to get a nioh thread going for a few days already and it always dies with a few posts at most, but if the massive homosexual op starts with a shitty flaming bait you gobble this trash up immediately. Frick all of you you dumb Black folk. I hate this place so fricking much.
Everyone already played the frick out of it and talked it to death. If you wanted actual discussion you should have played it at release.
>yet another case of niohbabs being unable to start up their own threads without shitting on superior games
I don't think I've ever seen a fanbase so insecure.
Why do you keep coming back? Your kind comes back every single time to say "NO my favorite game is better!".
>Your kind comes back every single time to say "NO my favorite game is better!".
I suggest you read what OP started with.
Also, just because I think From makes superior games, it doesn't mean Nioh is bad. It's good in some aspects and shits the bed in other.
>I suggest you read what OP started with.
Yea, do you know why he makes the same thread every day? Because he knows that 50+ diehard Fromsoft fanboys will come to defend it and they always do.
Every. Single. Time.
The problem is that the game is extremely divisive. It's like how souls were the same around the time it started getting popular, a lot of people had their egos hurt or just couldn't take the fact that the game was not for them so they started shitting on it every way they could.
This being Ganker should clue you in that a lot of people here don't actually play these games, they just like feeling superior to other people over a subjective choice that they try to argue as an objective fact.
Sorry anon but there just isn't much to discuss of the game that isn't comparing it to dark souls or elden shit
I've been playing grim dawn for a bit so I'm even out of Webms to post
>yet another case of niohbabs being unable to start up their own threads without shitting on superior games
I don't think I've ever seen a fanbase so insecure.
What are some good armour sets for a fists build?
I used Sohaya for a large portion of the game, then switched to Kingo, and now I'm running around in One-Eyed Dragon.
Depends what exactly you are looking for. I never went full into a fists build but look at the different stats and see which would benefit you the most depending on your playstyle. It also kind of matters if you want light/medium/heavy.
https://nioh2.wiki.fextralife.com/Set+Bonuses
I find bizarre that Ganker suddenly calls Nioh 1 a good game; it was always dismissed as a "shitty Souls clone", every single time I tried to make a thread about the game it either 404 or was shitposted to death, or when the topic of non-From Soulslikes came out on a Souls thread I was the only person in the room defending that game.
Given how 2 isn't terribly different from 1 (it's the same game but with new content and new gameplay mechanics) and I've never seen a Nioh 2 thread on Ganker that isn't anti-From Software shitposting, I'm convinced that most of the people on Ganker who "like" Nioh and Nioh 2 are just trolls who don't care about the games themselves, or contrarians trying too hard be different.
I personally just like Souls-likes and anything with sword combat (that isn't a WRPG; those games bore me to death).
Remnant 2 was a better souls "clone" than Nioh.
It has a frickton of problems, but it manages to make a more intresting game than Nioh 1 and it is more fun playing through once than Nioh 2 since 2 doesn't start being fun until you've actually finished "building" your character. Before that point it just feels like a subpar action game with RPG mechanics.
>I've never seen a Nioh 2 thread on Ganker that isn't anti-From Software shitposting
Then you weren't around the first couple months after release then again for the PC port. It had constant 24 hour threads. Like most games focused mainly on single player content though that fades with time.
I avoided the PS4 launch threads because I was waiting for the PC port and didn't want to be spoiled, and the few PC launch threads I checked were nothing but posts like
I need Nioh 2 tier CC in every game.
, people comparing their CC waifus. In a way reminded me of the average Code Vein thread, where no absolutely no one talks about the gameplay and just compares waifus.
I doubt PS4 launch threads were any different, because almost no one on Ganker like the series.
Except I'm not wrong. Ganker as a whole doesn't like the Nioh series and only uses it as a tool to attack From Software and its games. As simple as that.
Well, coomers enjoy playing with the character creator and creating muscle waifus but that's it. They would be fine if there wasn't a game attached to said character creator.
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Anonymous
You sound legitimately paranoid. What causes this victim complex and why is it so common around here?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Every single Nioh thread on Ganker is a bait aimed to provoke or offend From Software fans >"You're just paranoid / suffer from persecution complex"
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Okay we are going in circles. I told you, you can go look for all the game discussion if you want and there was a shitload of it. Every single thing about the game was discussed to death the first couple months after release. That included people posting their characters obviously. You said you don't want to though so it seems like you are just stuck in this weird mindset of wanting to be a victim. Enjoy whatever the frick kind of delusion you are partaking in. I refuse to be a part of it.
Any recommendations regarding onmyo and ninjutsu?
Quick change is nice. It is also good to just always have shuriken/kunai on hand. Power pills and the different elemental scrolls are also nice. There are feathers if you want a strong attack. It just depends on what exactly you want. Like half of them are really useful. I never use things like ground traps though. Some of the things are just situational but all of the stuff I named can be used in most situations.
It was like a troony /vg/ general. A very small group of discordtards making 90% of the posts every single thread. Very weird shit. And ofc they posted they characters often.
Nioh 1 had significantly better threads on here than 2 did, and you still missed countless threads of both that were almost entirely game discussion. The constant attempts to rewrite history on this god awful site are so tiresome.
>most players would dismiss Nioh 2 if it didn't have a character creator
Schizo did you forget your meds (again) today? Who told you this? Post no less than 5 creditable sources to back it up or I'm cumming down your throat.
I played through the entire game up and through demons and never used any of the way of C samurai skills that up your damage but increase ki consumption, I don’t know if that’s necessarily bad or not, I just never used them. I used light armor too and never had a problem dealing damage or surviving. If anything it felt just right.
Experiment with them yourself, there's a large enough amount of varied options on both and all of them are generally powerful so it comes down to what fits your general playstyle and needs. Just keep in mind both are always available as assets as you'll find skill points in missions and they level just by using them.
It's one of the first skills Odachi gets, Bolting Boar. Almost all the other weapons have a skill with guard frames, and Fists have a straight up Royal Guard-esque Daigo parry with a timed followup.
not sure if I understand what you're referring to but I did use an odachi and I know that there are counters (block at the right time like sekiro) and there is a parry (light attack while blocking) and as far as I know they only work on human enemies, not youkai like the on in the webm
>as far as I know they only work on human enemies
Most of them are like that, but that skill is one of the very few exceptions. There's parry skills that are done by guarding at the right time (Timely Guard parries like Odachi Bolting Boar and Katana Backwave) and parry skills that are done via an input, with examples of both either coming with a grapple animation (like that webm) or just having the enemy bounce off and/or allowing a special followup. Fists' Takedown works on small skeletons, and Katana's Water Shadow and Haze also works on small skeletons and Kamaitachi's spin.
Then there's skills like Cuckoo's Call on Odachi or Spirit Wind on Axe which have a period where they just guard attacks, and can therefore be used on just about any attack to counter them. Fists' Opportunist (the "Royal Guard" I mentioned) is closer to this so you can essentially use it to "parry" nearly anything.
Shuriken/kunai when she is in the air. It will kill her ki and make her drop to the ground so you can get some damage in. There are some anti para needles around in her level. If you run out of them get anti para pills in the ninja tree.
>I've been stuck on her for years
jesus anon
just summon and move on, you'll fight her again later anyway
Carry some anti-paralysis needles with you so if you commit a mistake you don't get killed.
Stay close to her when she's doing her ground combo but don't attack her unless she uses a guillotine kick; that kick has a long recovery so it's safe to attach her then.
When she flies and starts throwing shit, run and stay just under her; after a few seconds she will yell and dive-bomb you; don't block, dodge and then attack her when touches the floor. It will knock her out, opening her for a massive assault on top of dropping a lot of amrita which will fill your living weapon bar. Attack her a few times but don't be greedy because she always follows that stun with her health drain attack.
When she flies and does a horizontal flying attack, block. It's safer than dodging and if your stamina bar is full you should still have enough to run away.
Block more, cancel block into dodge depending on the attack, change stance to use your different dodges, and make great use of dash and dodge attacks to stay on her. She's there to let you know you're infinitely faster and more mobile than she'll ever be. You can test punishes with low stance and then move up if you see you can get more. Her flight is intended to get you in the mindset of using your bow which you should be using, but you can also bait her to drop down for a heavy punish. In general you need to learn how to be more mobile and aggressive without sacrificing safety, Ki Pulse (later Flux) and stances enable this and it's what Onryoki and Hino Enma are there to show you.
Thanks ahead of time, everyone. I am screencapping these and will check back later for more advice.
Carry some anti-paralysis needles with you so if you commit a mistake you don't get killed.
Stay close to her when she's doing her ground combo but don't attack her unless she uses a guillotine kick; that kick has a long recovery so it's safe to attach her then.
When she flies and starts throwing shit, run and stay just under her; after a few seconds she will yell and dive-bomb you; don't block, dodge and then attack her when touches the floor. It will knock her out, opening her for a massive assault on top of dropping a lot of amrita which will fill your living weapon bar. Attack her a few times but don't be greedy because she always follows that stun with her health drain attack.
When she flies and does a horizontal flying attack, block. It's safer than dodging and if your stamina bar is full you should still have enough to run away.
Block more, cancel block into dodge depending on the attack, change stance to use your different dodges, and make great use of dash and dodge attacks to stay on her. She's there to let you know you're infinitely faster and more mobile than she'll ever be. You can test punishes with low stance and then move up if you see you can get more. Her flight is intended to get you in the mindset of using your bow which you should be using, but you can also bait her to drop down for a heavy punish. In general you need to learn how to be more mobile and aggressive without sacrificing safety, Ki Pulse (later Flux) and stances enable this and it's what Onryoki and Hino Enma are there to show you.
It's a side mission to be fair (although you do fight one of those in the second main mission with the assistance of two NPCs and he's not the boss of the stage)
Compare this to Nioh 1 which had the audacity to make you refight Yukimura as a main boss in the third DLC with his ninja simp tagging in when you got him to a third of his health
Double boss fights were an utter travesty in Nioh 1 and I'm glad Nioh 2 mostly did away with it
It's the best way to get glory. Glory can be used to buy skins and crafting materials. There is also the revenant system but that isn't as useful in the second game. When I say the best way I mean the only way that wouldn't require probably 10's of hours of grinding revs just to get enough for like 1 skin. They aren't necessary items or anything but having easy access to crafting items can be useful.
Just pirate; the online is dead.
I doubt that. Haven't played recently but it isn't like other MP games where you need a shitload of people on at once. It has power scaling and shit. If there are 1000 people currently playing I doubt you would have trouble finding someone to play with.
Even if the online were alive, there is no reason to buy Nioh 2 given how Team Ninja abandoned the series and moved on.
It's the equivalent of buying Prey 2017: what's the point when it will never get a sequel or a similar game?
Online is worth it if you got someone to coop. It's also worth it to farm glory when you put summon sign down so other players summon an AI version of you. It feels almost as good as getting (you)s
I'll clarify by saying don't worry about it on anything lower than purple. But tempering on purple weapons is still useful enough and it is pretty cheap. There is no reason not to do it unless you just like leaving DPS on the table.
It's a fairly straightforward and extremely convenient way to get specific gear or make sure you have rare gear on (notable since Defense as a stat is not very impactful compared to the many other hefty ways of reducing damage/surviving), and Tempering is also simple and relatively quick to do while offering some very helpful effects that can take a huge amount of stress out of things. It's not strictly necessary however as you've found, since the main strength you get comes from learning the mechanics and applying them.
One thing that I like about that game, that I rarely see mentioned is the fact that they use actual historical characters, places and battles. I quite enjoying reading up on some of them afterwards. I feel like the whole game would be even more enjoyable if I had a good grasp on Japanese history in the first place, but I still appreciate it.
>Dark Souls difficulty >Enemy encounter is difficult due to the combination or placement of enemies that back each other up. Placement of enemies usually tends to make it fair with some strategy, like pulling one-by-one or using ranged moves to take one out >Example: Channeler + 10 Hollow in the Church, multiple enemies that can stagger you into a ranged shot, or a big enemy to lock you into a bunch of the smaller ones. Try to abuse line of sight to funnel the small guys into the hallway and avoid the caster!
>Nioh difficulty >Big boss enemy and an archer up there that does 50% of your HP if he hits you, he literally hits harder than the fricking boss >Nioh NG+ difficulty >There is now 2 archers up there, they now do 70% of your HP. You still have to kill the boss btw. >Nioh NG++ difficulty >There is now 3 fricking archers on that cliff, the boss now has an additional add and several bonus buffs >What? Your build doesn't have the "Reflect All Projectiles" Legendary? What the frick are you doing you idiot, you're trying to build something that isnt meta? >Well that's ok, just activate your "super OP no-damage-taken and loads of elemental dps" demon mode button and go nuts! >Wait, you're not building for Infinite Demon Mode either?
You have a bow/rifle/cannon. They are accessible with the click of a single button. You also get bonus damage for headshots. If you temper your ranged weapons they pretty much 1 hit kill most humans in NG. It doesn't matter though because that scenario sounds fake. What boss room has archers? Am I just forgetting?
Nearly EVERY scenario in Nioh 1 had a cheese archer just to piss you off. You're probably just forgetting, but once you realize it, it is incredibly fricking tedious. Half the DLC content is infuriating with that knowledge.
I could understand it if the ranged weapons weren't so damn easy to use. It is just constantly equipped though. You just press L2 and there it is. 1 second later you are aiming your rifle. Get a headshot and that enemy isn't there anymore.
>Nearly EVERY scenario in Nioh 1 had a cheese archer just to piss you off
100% this, every time there was a ledge you couldn't immediately reach, there was someone shooting at you from there. Everywhere there was a corner you couldn't see behind there was someone waiting to jump you.
Thankfully Nioh 2 has a much more tasteful amount of these things.
Nah thats definitely me, Im playing through Nioh 2 right now but I got a bit burnt out by the 2nd world so I put it down for a bit. Definitely less archers, thankfully, but the combat straight up assumes you played Nioh 1 with how difficult it starts out.
No, it's not you. Because no Nioh 1 boss battle has archers.
You're taking someone else's gameplay time to shitpost.
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2 years ago
Anonymous
Literally how, what do you need me to prove that its my game time. I can tell you for a fricking fact I played the entire game mashing the Heavy Attack string on Spear for the entire game and was able to breeze through combat. What more fricking evidence do you need you seething copelord.
You know how modern games streamline and remove features in the sequel in the name of "reaching a broader audience"?
Nioh 2 adds new mechanics on top of every existing mechanic in Nioh 1.
The itemization gives so many easy to use features and sorting, filter and selecting options that I have to wonder how few games you people have ever actually played. Soul Matching is literally just pick weapon, pick another weapon with higher level and same+ rarity, done, of all the things to single out. The closest thing to an issue with it is it being expensive when regarding normal level, and that isn't actually an issue.
Nioh 2 is great as long as you're fighting yokai or generic human enemies.
The way the human bosses blatantly cheat and ignore rules that the player has to follow aggravates me to no end.
They have gigantic ki. And they can parry out of nowhere because they input read. And they have absurd damage output. And they have the HP of 100 players. And they have infinite casts of whatever magic/jutsu they carry, which they can carry pretty much all of them at once regardless of cost. And they activate ki buffs without pulsing, just by changing stance. And they swing big weapons that have huge reach with speed you can only match with a sword on low stance that will only hit directly in front of you. And their charge attacks come out instantly. And they have burst attacks that don't matter if you counter because human ki just regenerates on the spot. And they have unblockable grabs. And they have random super armor like yokai do, except it's not tied to ki because frick the rules.
And then there's the one that can fly, and the one that has infinite uses of gust talisman meaning he's pretty much completely immune to ninjutsu, and the one that has infinite ammo on a gun he can fire without aiming, and oh my God, what a fricking shitshow.
And, by the way, every single fricking weapon has two blatantly unfair human boss dojo fights in order to unlock all their skills.
Every time I think about replaying this, I remember these bullshit fights and decide I could probably find something better to do.
Human bosses aren't great but when you dump a bunch of random shit like that in a clumsy rant it just shows that you need to practice more. They actually follow almost all the rules we do, that's the entire reason the worst ones are as bad as they are, but they can still be rolled over almost entirely if you properly abuse Ki damage and maintain pressure. Even all the stuff you reach at has a lot of ways around it.
>when you complain about the game it just shows that you need to practice more
lmao this really is a refuge for soulsgays
every criticism is just deflected out of hand with the good ol' "git gud"
A mindless rant and "thing suck" isn't criticism, even I gave more criticism by naming a potential issue with Soul Matching. If you want actual advice I can offer it but I won't bother if someone's clearly not in the mood to listen to anything I would say.
Ah yes, "thing suck". Everything I pointed out is a way that human bosses have an unfair advantage over the player. Inflated stats, movesets the player can't use, super armor, infinite consumables, being able to pull buffs out of their asses. None of it is genuine complaints, it's all just "thing suck".
This would be less pathetic if I at least knew you're being paid to deflect criticism from this game with canned git-gud non-arguments but, knowing Ganker, it's very likely you're doing it for free.
I clearly replied to two posts, the other guy was who said quite literally "thing suck". You instead are just b***hing about the challenge set any way you can regardless of how the game or any games work, instead of putting forward any genuine attempt and effort to understand and overcome it. If you actually did want to improve and play the game you might have taken me up on the offer for advice, but you didn't and there's little other reason why you'd make a post as a plea for pity, so this only shows exactly what you're actually here for.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>taken me up on the offer for advice
Always forget I share a board with humanity's best and brightest. You got your head so far up your own ass about this game that your fecal matter is making decisions, which probably explains why you so vehemently defend all of its design flaws like your life and sustenance depended on it, and for free to boot.
The game has problems, and one of them is human bosses who blatantly designed unfairly for the sake of challenge. I'm really sorry that this statement hurts you so deeply, but it's true.
And I'm not actually sorry.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not him but holy shit dude. >Inflated stats, movesets the player can't use, super armor, infinite consumables, being able to pull buffs out of their asses
Are these the problems? Have you played a video game before?
He explained that you are just misunderstanding the game. It isn't unfair design. It is you not understanding or not being able to execute methods that would help you overcome the challenges. You need to be aggressive. You need to break the boss's ki. You are on a level playing field. Instead you just want to say "no the game is unfair". Well this might be hard to hear but no the game isn't unfair. There is a way to deal with every situation. That way is usually be aggressive. There are some instances where that could backfire but for the majority of the game it is just a matter of execution. Do you react this way any time somebody tells you to get good? Getting better at a game isn't some Souls exclusive thing. Get good or learn more. Or just summon someone who can do it for you.
Nioh 2 is great as long as you're fighting yokai or generic human enemies.
The way the human bosses blatantly cheat and ignore rules that the player has to follow aggravates me to no end.
They have gigantic ki. And they can parry out of nowhere because they input read. And they have absurd damage output. And they have the HP of 100 players. And they have infinite casts of whatever magic/jutsu they carry, which they can carry pretty much all of them at once regardless of cost. And they activate ki buffs without pulsing, just by changing stance. And they swing big weapons that have huge reach with speed you can only match with a sword on low stance that will only hit directly in front of you. And their charge attacks come out instantly. And they have burst attacks that don't matter if you counter because human ki just regenerates on the spot. And they have unblockable grabs. And they have random super armor like yokai do, except it's not tied to ki because frick the rules.
And then there's the one that can fly, and the one that has infinite uses of gust talisman meaning he's pretty much completely immune to ninjutsu, and the one that has infinite ammo on a gun he can fire without aiming, and oh my God, what a fricking shitshow.
And, by the way, every single fricking weapon has two blatantly unfair human boss dojo fights in order to unlock all their skills.
Every time I think about replaying this, I remember these bullshit fights and decide I could probably find something better to do.
Lmfao just use tonfas or some other ki depletion weapon, not one human enemy gave me trouble and I didn’t even bother with like 30% of the game options for damage or content, I never even used the Samurai tree damage boosters/ki consumption increase choices or even unlocked them, never touched onmyo, 350 hours, none of it mattered because ki weapons just wreck their shit(they wreck everything’s shit really).
Nioh 1 is a great game itself and has its own bosses and missions that are worth playing, but Nioh 2 largely builds upon it and improves in just about every way possible. This does mean that starting with 1 will give you good practice with the core mechanics (provided you actually make that effort to do so) before 2 adds additional ones, but both games have massive levels of content and depth that you can put thousands of hours into if you want and if you were to only play one game you'd probably go with 2. Story is also not a very big factor at all in this game but 2 does have a few moments that are a bit cooler with knowledge from 1. Speaking of which, 1 has a dedicated main character in William while 2 has you create your own character, and both games have an option to transform into different NPCs.
If you're a fan of samurai armours then yeah there's a ton of great looking ones, including heavier stuff. There's also a Refashion option to let you make anything look like anything else.
A game not being able to stand on its own and needing to use more popular games as stepping stones is a pretty big red flag if you ask me...
Good thing this game doesn't need to do that at all. You should know now more than ever that mass public perception is often heavily flawed, ignorant and based on first impressions that rarely if ever hold up.
I tried the alpha, saw enemies dropping the same item "but this time it has 2 extra damage points!", quit and uninstalled it.
Any game that handles look in such a way is trash.
In the interview they said pretty explicitly that they were using the same general creator, just with options to fit the settings so it'll be less Japanese tattoos etc. and more Chinese ones.
>more action compared to Nioh 2
Not 5 seconds pass by in the game where I'm not pummeling an enemy into oblivion (or the opposite)
How much more action-y could it get
>From watching the gameplay, I could tell that the speed of combat has definitely been increased when compared to Nioh. Make no mistake though, this isn’t the over-the-top action Team NINJA made itself famous for with NINJA GAIDEN either. It’s kind of somewhere in between
Personally I wouldn't put much faith into what a journo would say regarding the game's combat or pace. It's highly unlikely they've ever scratched the surface of how fast Nioh could be pushed (or Stranger of Paradise for that matter), so we just have to try and read between the lines and wait for actual gameplay. The things about seamlessly combining offense and defense sound very interesting though, it said something about being able to block during attacks. My mind initially went somewhere like MGR but maybe it's more like a timed parry that doesn't interrupt the action at all, which could be really cool. Imagine Opportunist or Soul Shield but you can do it during any attack, and the challenge is being able to juggle both consistently without pause while enemies are constantly bearing down on you and doing the same shit.
Considering it's supposed to release in a year I feel like (hope) that they might even have a demo version of some kind relatively soon, they've gotten into the habit of doing that and there's not really much time until release overall if they were to do it.
Every game series is dealing with some moronic console warring from dedicated shitposters that make it their personaly and people still have the gall to say Ganker is the only good place to discuss video games
>and people still have the gall to say Ganker is the only good place to discuss video games
I don't think a single person is saying that. It is one of the few places that is lax on censorship though unfortunately. It just sucks that I share a board with these fricking genuine morons. They buy into it so easily.
>Every game series is dealing with some moronic console warring
Not this one, though. Entire series available wherever you want to play it, as all of them should be.
I'm mostly just throwing shit out there, but I'm sure if they were able to do similar things there would also be guard breaks and unblockable attacks. After all they'd need to have them for you if you can guard and attack at once. I guess what I'm describing would be like the NG doppleganger fights, but with clearer methods to enable proper varieties of combos and damage.
having depth
late game content and a real endgame loop
>Beat the game to play the real game
Suck my dick
>Beat the game to unlock a seperate metagame
This is the only place where i see the nioh series being talked about, irl i know a lot of people that don't even play games that are still interested in Elden Ring.
Peak clown world, normalgays will never understand the true kino that is Nioh and Nioh 2
i'm jelly of normalgays
playing this shit franchise for free wasn't worth the time i wasted
It's cause nioh has an actual learning curve. Nothing filters normalgays like having to learn.
ER is peak reddit "hard" game for babies. Souls games in general have always been this way but it wasn't the focus. You'd be amazed at how many people knew what DaS1 was but never actually touched/played it but similar to Ninja Gaiden on xbox would spew the memes about it being impossibly hard.
>normalgays will never understand the true kino that is Nioh
Nioh is a mess that shoves in your mouth every 1 minute a new weapon/armor etc.
mob variety is non existent, you will fight the same mobs from the first area all the way to the end.
Level design is bland compared to Souls games.
I dropped Nioh somewhere in the middle, is Nioh 2 better in this regard?
>is Nioh 2 better in this regard?
Nioh 2 is basically the exact same game as Nioh 1, but it does have a handful more enemies and a slightly better level design.
elden ring is more relevant today than nioh 2 was at launch
never hear about this game anywhere but here
says something about the quality of a game tbh. We live in a society and all
normies don't talk about good games whats your point?
no
Jesus Christ, brutal but accurate
troony moment
yeah reddit ring was woke
nioh 2 was made before demons souls demake started the type gender meme. just wait till nioh but chinese comes out, it will be type as well lmao
ER has 10x the women/trannies that Nioh games have but okay. Wouldn't be surprised if there were videos of people trying to confirm cast members as trannies. Meanwhile anyone still playing Nioh is just playing it.
t. ranni fricker
Is this game worth buying? Give it to me straight, no memes and no bullshit, if you are wrong there will be consequences.
It is Demon's Souls with significantly better gameplay and build variety but worse atmosphere and lore. If that sounds like your cup of tea then play it.
Why demons souls rather than a newer souls game?
because its mission-based, no interconnected world like Dark Souls or anything.
He is setting you up for failure. Don't go in expecting to play it like any of those games. You are going to want to engage with every single combat mechanic the game has. Change your stances and ki pulse/flux. Use burst counters and put like 20-30 points in both magic and dex for talismans, ninjutsu etc. Blocking is better than dodging most of the time. Most of all though just be aggressive. Learn the muscle memory for flux so you can constantly have ki (stamina). If you just play it like a souls game you are going to be bored as frick.
>attack, attack, attack, boss stunned, attack, attack, attack
Button masher shit.
While you're not entirely wrong, there are some perfectly executed parries in there, as well as ki management and weapon swapping. It may look like "just button mashing" to someone who never played it, but the enemy in that webm (Fuki) is troublesome even for a seasoned player, and a newcomer would struggle to do the same motions against him without biting dirt (and he's a regular mob, that could easily pass as miniboss, same for many other DLC mobs).
Lets ignore the perfect parries and interactions with the enemy clearly attacking in between the false claim you're making eh? Too be fair i do hate the bloated life of NG+3 and beyond Nioh but that is entirely optional and at that point you can potentially get sets/gear that melt shit all the same.
>worse atmosphere and lore
Wrong.
holy shit what the frick makes you people think that using underleveled weapons against high level enemies makes this game look good
no one cares how much skill it took to pull this off when it's so fricking boring to watch
I don't know that guy's build but that looks about right. Enemies aren't made of paper in this game except a few of the basic humans. Like
said that is also one of the most difficult basic enemies in the game. You are given a shitload of combat options. What fun would it be if every enemy died in a few hits? You need to understand that the game wants you to combo all of your different attacks together while managing your ki. Fights actually feel like fights.
my build is shit by design and i kill stronger enemies in less time
>literally throwing a looney toons bomb
literally cant even tell whats going on here
maybe wo lung wont have so much visual puke
Wo Long will be even faster according to the devs.
Watching it in this format makes it look terrible. I can't speak for everyone but it never bothered me when I'm actually playing it. There are white particles that swirl around your character and right before they hit you you can ki pulse to get your ki back. I never had any issues seeing them or anything like that. It all just kind of fades from your vision when you are in the middle of a fight and you can concentrate on the enemy. Apparently there is a mod that removes them though.
wu long ding dong ching chong is Chinkoid cancer by default.
it's pig disgusting in nature. literally repulses me - which no game has ever managed to do in my entire life, with its portrayal of chinkoid bugmen homosexualry.
It's even worse when you actually play it. The rainbow vomit never fricking ends.
jesus christ what a dogshit combat system mash mash mashmash special attack mash mash special attack 2 but with a scripted move mash mash
Stop talking about things you clearly have no knowledge of.
Don't forget the other things that are stupid/bad about it
>Shit level design
>Extreme difficulty imbalance (people like to cry about "artifical difficulty" in souls and even though it doesn't apply here or to souls, the sheer amount of difficulty spikes and pits makes making a graph out of it look like sine wave)
>5 different mechanics that govern character growth yet all of them are poorly explained and only 2 of them actually makes any kind of sense (ilvl is fricking pointless and only makes playing the game more confusing for new players)
>Most if not all of the extra character options are rendered moot by enemy design that forces players into overly defensive or offensive situations (souls also fails at this but it atleast hides it better, being a roll simulator and all that)
>Graphical design and style makes the screen look like a abstract painting at times, somehow being worse than even Korean lootgrind MMOs at worst
inb4 "soulsdrone".
I don't really like souls that much either and I instead prefer DMC or Dragons Dogma if I'm looking for a more "RPG" action game. Either way, this fricking tribalism over a series that probably won't get a sequel for a long time or ever beat THAT SERIES in sales is fricking stupid, so please stop.
>Shit level design
Its functional and more arcade oriented then just being some aesthetic. It has similar looping checkpoints to Souls games/older games. Meanwhile most Souls levels are easy to run through especially in later games and not well designed. But your small meme picture brain thinks "aesthetics = good level design.".
>Extreme difficulty inbalance
No? Nioh 1 and 2 besides some DLC bosses are flat out fine and the difficulty doesn't spike and become a gear check until around NG+3 and by then you've played the game twice and can choose if you want that life
They aren't poorly explained you just need to read for more then a second instead of R1/circle
Not really but it can be a bit overbearing i agree. A player just beginning might be frustrated trying to learn to ki pulse and instead decide to turtle all day as to not die and play simple because learning constant cancels can be hard.
No one believes Nioh can beat troonysoft in sales. Its just fun to see them fling shit. But i guess i agree? There is only so much i can replay DMC games before i want something new even if its not as good. I think both Nioh 2 and DMCs better titles are great. Hell i think most From games are fine even ER. But i do think they are made for people incapable of adapting to deeper mechanics.
>But i do think they are made for people incapable of adapting to deeper mechanics.
>My button masher is deeper than yours!
You know, every single argument for how Nioh is "deeper" than it competitors always comes down to
>There are more buttons to press=it's more DEEP
But in reality, the game never pushed players to reach that depth but it's nice that it is there for people who want it. Trying to point it out as being a better aspect vs any other game is sort of a moot point when the game never actually expects the player to utilize that depth and they instead just design obstacles around players who barely grasp how to use any of the most basic aspects of the game.
This isn't even a riff on Nioh, it's more of a riff on most if not all action games since they all fall into that same trap. Even something like DMC with all of it's deeper levels of play does this exact same thing, that doesn't make the game worse, but it does pointing out that depth as being better a moot point there too.
Why did you even use green text newbie, you wrote entire fricking paragraphs. Just b***h using regular text dipshit, there’s no need for green text.
t. Didn't play the game or got filtered before completing NG
>It is Demon's Souls with significantly better gameplay
who are you trying to kid? you never played Demon's Souls in your life.
gb2 your Reddit game.
So why play Nioh when Sekino has all 4 of those qualities?
sekiro doesn't have shitty borderlands colored loot
Only if you aren't a Soulsborne / Elden Ring / Sekiro fan. If you are, avoid.
if you enjoy great combat and looooting or can tolerate it at least it's great. however it cut most of the stuff that the souls is famous for, such as a big interconnected world, world building, lore, you name it, the game is nearly an action game, it has mission structure, most missions are just a bunch of hallways and whatnot, no exploration, but the action is top notch, and there's a ton of content. assembling builds come late game isn't that hard either, the game is fairly generous with good loot, which is I think the main problem of looting games.
>go back after playing ER
>enemies outplay me hard
Wish I could fully enjoy this game by being allowed to go autismo with builds, especially elemental ones. I'm trying to become fire punch, and many enemies straight up can't be set on fire; same with any other elements that are not purity/corruption. Maybe I'll try to mix in thunder with water and do something storm-related.
I’ve never seen this game discussed on this board outside of the context of FS games.
Kinda seems like the playerbase is insecure or something. :/
it's fun to play. they somehow forgot that part in elden ring
Less bloat, more sauce.
Yeah, Elden Ring only has TWELVE TIMES the people playing it right now. Outlived as frick. That's also why this garbage only ever gets FromSoft bait threads instead of real discussion.
Take your dogshit lootgacha simulator back to resetera or reddit or wherever the frick you came from.
He is baiting you, bud. It works every single time so he keeps doing it. You're so fricking stupid you actually got tricked into thinking game is bad too.
Nah, I actually pirated it so I know for certain it's shovelware.
Must suck to have shit taste. From a pure gameplay perspective this is probably the best ARPG in the last decade.
>Trannies/streamers
>People
>Dude shitting in diaper doing daily speedruns
>People.
Okay.
I love Nioh, the only thing that really annoys me about it is the absurd amount of particle effects, EVERYTHING GLOWS, looks like trash but plays like a dream.
lol the game is easy just wear heavy armor spam triangle and use the axe while occasionally using soul core attacks preferably the wheel cat lady's
why it still costs 60 australian euros?
I literally only want to play Nioh because I've seen porn and created characters are all hot as frick. You mean to tell me I can run around looking like pic related? You've piqued my interest
Yeah but not enough sexy oufits or jiggle physics
I'm at the level 100 mission, should i look forward to endgame?
Just enjoy yourself anon. Personally i stopped with Nioh 1/2 after NG+2 or so when i didn't feel the drive to get the stuff/make a build strong enough to keep up with the life NG+3 has on stuff. I do need to go back and play the last DLC though it came out so much later. But i think 2 playthroughs worth of content out of both games is great. The end game is definitely not for everybody. Since you can easily just play through NG/NG+ with fundamentals alone even with a shit weapon bar some DLC bosses but past that it becomes sort of a grind.
Actually being fun does that.
Huh?
a cope thread, as usual
>2600 KINGS
>vs 42000 normalgay shiteaters
YEP Nioh cant stop winning.
is there anything more pathetic than niohtards? 90% of the playerbase are soulstards looking for something "like dark souls" while they're waiting for the next fromsoft game. this series is cursed to forever be in fromsoft's shadow and the moronic "fans" (all 10 of them) will cope about it for all eternity
It's actually fun unlike elden epicmetabuildletmesoloher1shotsummonmagicazurcommetpvpstreamer ring.
Daily reminder
Frick you you stupid Black folk. I've been trying to get a nioh thread going for a few days already and it always dies with a few posts at most, but if the massive homosexual op starts with a shitty flaming bait you gobble this trash up immediately. Frick all of you you dumb Black folk. I hate this place so fricking much.
Everyone already played the frick out of it and talked it to death. If you wanted actual discussion you should have played it at release.
Why do you keep coming back? Your kind comes back every single time to say "NO my favorite game is better!".
>Your kind comes back every single time to say "NO my favorite game is better!".
I suggest you read what OP started with.
Also, just because I think From makes superior games, it doesn't mean Nioh is bad. It's good in some aspects and shits the bed in other.
>I suggest you read what OP started with.
Yea, do you know why he makes the same thread every day? Because he knows that 50+ diehard Fromsoft fanboys will come to defend it and they always do.
Every. Single. Time.
The problem is that the game is extremely divisive. It's like how souls were the same around the time it started getting popular, a lot of people had their egos hurt or just couldn't take the fact that the game was not for them so they started shitting on it every way they could.
This being Ganker should clue you in that a lot of people here don't actually play these games, they just like feeling superior to other people over a subjective choice that they try to argue as an objective fact.
Sorry anon but there just isn't much to discuss of the game that isn't comparing it to dark souls or elden shit
I've been playing grim dawn for a bit so I'm even out of Webms to post
>yet another case of niohbabs being unable to start up their own threads without shitting on superior games
I don't think I've ever seen a fanbase so insecure.
LOL! lmao.
I suspect that homosexuals who make Nioh, Bintendo's Turd In The Woods and Debil Must Crap threads are the very same type of subhumans.
What are some good armour sets for a fists build?
I used Sohaya for a large portion of the game, then switched to Kingo, and now I'm running around in One-Eyed Dragon.
Depends what exactly you are looking for. I never went full into a fists build but look at the different stats and see which would benefit you the most depending on your playstyle. It also kind of matters if you want light/medium/heavy.
https://nioh2.wiki.fextralife.com/Set+Bonuses
>Nioh thread
>start thread by baiting and taunting better series
every time
I find bizarre that Ganker suddenly calls Nioh 1 a good game; it was always dismissed as a "shitty Souls clone", every single time I tried to make a thread about the game it either 404 or was shitposted to death, or when the topic of non-From Soulslikes came out on a Souls thread I was the only person in the room defending that game.
Given how 2 isn't terribly different from 1 (it's the same game but with new content and new gameplay mechanics) and I've never seen a Nioh 2 thread on Ganker that isn't anti-From Software shitposting, I'm convinced that most of the people on Ganker who "like" Nioh and Nioh 2 are just trolls who don't care about the games themselves, or contrarians trying too hard be different.
I personally just like Souls-likes and anything with sword combat (that isn't a WRPG; those games bore me to death).
Remnant 2 was a better souls "clone" than Nioh.
It has a frickton of problems, but it manages to make a more intresting game than Nioh 1 and it is more fun playing through once than Nioh 2 since 2 doesn't start being fun until you've actually finished "building" your character. Before that point it just feels like a subpar action game with RPG mechanics.
>I've never seen a Nioh 2 thread on Ganker that isn't anti-From Software shitposting
Then you weren't around the first couple months after release then again for the PC port. It had constant 24 hour threads. Like most games focused mainly on single player content though that fades with time.
I avoided the PS4 launch threads because I was waiting for the PC port and didn't want to be spoiled, and the few PC launch threads I checked were nothing but posts like
, people comparing their CC waifus. In a way reminded me of the average Code Vein thread, where no absolutely no one talks about the gameplay and just compares waifus.
I doubt PS4 launch threads were any different, because almost no one on Ganker like the series.
That is just factually wrong though. Go look through the archives if you want.
No need to; I already know every single thread that isn't "post your Hide" is either top or bottom.
>I enjoy being wrong
Okay, moron.
Except I'm not wrong. Ganker as a whole doesn't like the Nioh series and only uses it as a tool to attack From Software and its games. As simple as that.
Well, coomers enjoy playing with the character creator and creating muscle waifus but that's it. They would be fine if there wasn't a game attached to said character creator.
You sound legitimately paranoid. What causes this victim complex and why is it so common around here?
>Every single Nioh thread on Ganker is a bait aimed to provoke or offend From Software fans
>"You're just paranoid / suffer from persecution complex"
Okay we are going in circles. I told you, you can go look for all the game discussion if you want and there was a shitload of it. Every single thing about the game was discussed to death the first couple months after release. That included people posting their characters obviously. You said you don't want to though so it seems like you are just stuck in this weird mindset of wanting to be a victim. Enjoy whatever the frick kind of delusion you are partaking in. I refuse to be a part of it.
Quick change is nice. It is also good to just always have shuriken/kunai on hand. Power pills and the different elemental scrolls are also nice. There are feathers if you want a strong attack. It just depends on what exactly you want. Like half of them are really useful. I never use things like ground traps though. Some of the things are just situational but all of the stuff I named can be used in most situations.
It was like a troony /vg/ general. A very small group of discordtards making 90% of the posts every single thread. Very weird shit. And ofc they posted they characters often.
I always liked Nioh 1, just because a bunch of seething Fromdrones said it's bad won't make me change my opinion.
Nioh 1 had significantly better threads on here than 2 did, and you still missed countless threads of both that were almost entirely game discussion. The constant attempts to rewrite history on this god awful site are so tiresome.
I need Nioh 2 tier CC in every game.
It's pretty telling how most players would dismiss Nioh 2 if it didn't have a character creator, even if nothing else about the game changed.
>most players would dismiss Nioh 2 if it didn't have a character creator
Schizo did you forget your meds (again) today? Who told you this? Post no less than 5 creditable sources to back it up or I'm cumming down your throat.
I played through the entire game up and through demons and never used any of the way of C samurai skills that up your damage but increase ki consumption, I don’t know if that’s necessarily bad or not, I just never used them. I used light armor too and never had a problem dealing damage or surviving. If anything it felt just right.
So what's the hottest character in game?
For me it's pic rel and the pale ghost girls
I want to FRICK Fuku!
Switchglaive.
Any recommendations regarding onmyo and ninjutsu?
Experiment with them yourself, there's a large enough amount of varied options on both and all of them are generally powerful so it comes down to what fits your general playstyle and needs. Just keep in mind both are always available as assets as you'll find skill points in missions and they level just by using them.
respec and try everything
game owns. kinda feel like replaying ng+ but with different weapons.
I'm not that far into the game, didn't know you can counter/parry youkai enemies
It's one of the first skills Odachi gets, Bolting Boar. Almost all the other weapons have a skill with guard frames, and Fists have a straight up Royal Guard-esque Daigo parry with a timed followup.
not sure if I understand what you're referring to but I did use an odachi and I know that there are counters (block at the right time like sekiro) and there is a parry (light attack while blocking) and as far as I know they only work on human enemies, not youkai like the on in the webm
>as far as I know they only work on human enemies
Most of them are like that, but that skill is one of the very few exceptions. There's parry skills that are done by guarding at the right time (Timely Guard parries like Odachi Bolting Boar and Katana Backwave) and parry skills that are done via an input, with examples of both either coming with a grapple animation (like that webm) or just having the enemy bounce off and/or allowing a special followup. Fists' Takedown works on small skeletons, and Katana's Water Shadow and Haze also works on small skeletons and Kamaitachi's spin.
Then there's skills like Cuckoo's Call on Odachi or Spirit Wind on Axe which have a period where they just guard attacks, and can therefore be used on just about any attack to counter them. Fists' Opportunist (the "Royal Guard" I mentioned) is closer to this so you can essentially use it to "parry" nearly anything.
Please give this poor moron more tips to beat this b***h I've been stuck on her for years. Going to reinstall today...
Shuriken/kunai when she is in the air. It will kill her ki and make her drop to the ground so you can get some damage in. There are some anti para needles around in her level. If you run out of them get anti para pills in the ninja tree.
Thanks ahead of time, everyone. I am screencapping these and will check back later for more advice.
>I've been stuck on her for years
jesus anon
just summon and move on, you'll fight her again later anyway
Carry some anti-paralysis needles with you so if you commit a mistake you don't get killed.
Stay close to her when she's doing her ground combo but don't attack her unless she uses a guillotine kick; that kick has a long recovery so it's safe to attach her then.
When she flies and starts throwing shit, run and stay just under her; after a few seconds she will yell and dive-bomb you; don't block, dodge and then attack her when touches the floor. It will knock her out, opening her for a massive assault on top of dropping a lot of amrita which will fill your living weapon bar. Attack her a few times but don't be greedy because she always follows that stun with her health drain attack.
When she flies and does a horizontal flying attack, block. It's safer than dodging and if your stamina bar is full you should still have enough to run away.
Block more, cancel block into dodge depending on the attack, change stance to use your different dodges, and make great use of dash and dodge attacks to stay on her. She's there to let you know you're infinitely faster and more mobile than she'll ever be. You can test punishes with low stance and then move up if you see you can get more. Her flight is intended to get you in the mindset of using your bow which you should be using, but you can also bait her to drop down for a heavy punish. In general you need to learn how to be more mobile and aggressive without sacrificing safety, Ki Pulse (later Flux) and stances enable this and it's what Onryoki and Hino Enma are there to show you.
>dude lets just copy a boss from the first game for the dlc
what the frick were they thinking?
Meanwhile Elden Ring is called "worst game ever!" due to reusing bosses.
The absolute state of Ganker's hypocrisy.
It's a side mission to be fair (although you do fight one of those in the second main mission with the assistance of two NPCs and he's not the boss of the stage)
Compare this to Nioh 1 which had the audacity to make you refight Yukimura as a main boss in the third DLC with his ninja simp tagging in when you got him to a third of his health
Double boss fights were an utter travesty in Nioh 1 and I'm glad Nioh 2 mostly did away with it
Both games suck, play jagged alliance 2
Is this online worth anything or can I just piracy
Just pirate; the online is dead.
It's the best way to get glory. Glory can be used to buy skins and crafting materials. There is also the revenant system but that isn't as useful in the second game. When I say the best way I mean the only way that wouldn't require probably 10's of hours of grinding revs just to get enough for like 1 skin. They aren't necessary items or anything but having easy access to crafting items can be useful.
I doubt that. Haven't played recently but it isn't like other MP games where you need a shitload of people on at once. It has power scaling and shit. If there are 1000 people currently playing I doubt you would have trouble finding someone to play with.
Even if the online were alive, there is no reason to buy Nioh 2 given how Team Ninja abandoned the series and moved on.
It's the equivalent of buying Prey 2017: what's the point when it will never get a sequel or a similar game?
Oh so it's not dead. You just say it is because you don't want people to support them. Got it.
It is dead. I'm just pointing out that there is no reason to buy the game at this point.
Online is worth it if you got someone to coop. It's also worth it to farm glory when you put summon sign down so other players summon an AI version of you. It feels almost as good as getting (you)s
I haven't used the smith even once, and only use the gear I loot. Am I missing out a lot?
The smith is literally worthless once you beat the first difficulty, don't worry about it.
Crafting isn't really necessary but you should probably at least reforge/temper stats onto your weapons.
So if I booted up the game right now you're telling me I wouldn't be able to get a coop partner? I highly doubt that.
I still get people using my phantom every day, and can usually find a co-op partner in under 5 minutes, but yeah, it's not "as active", I suppose.
I'll clarify by saying don't worry about it on anything lower than purple. But tempering on purple weapons is still useful enough and it is pretty cheap. There is no reason not to do it unless you just like leaving DPS on the table.
You don't need smithing until end game. I didn't use it until ng+++
It's a fairly straightforward and extremely convenient way to get specific gear or make sure you have rare gear on (notable since Defense as a stat is not very impactful compared to the many other hefty ways of reducing damage/surviving), and Tempering is also simple and relatively quick to do while offering some very helpful effects that can take a huge amount of stress out of things. It's not strictly necessary however as you've found, since the main strength you get comes from learning the mechanics and applying them.
>Paying money when you can get the game for free
Since when you gays became such upstanding paypiggies?
Better music for one
For me, it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exinzBqPuDk
One thing that I like about that game, that I rarely see mentioned is the fact that they use actual historical characters, places and battles. I quite enjoying reading up on some of them afterwards. I feel like the whole game would be even more enjoyable if I had a good grasp on Japanese history in the first place, but I still appreciate it.
Yea KT have been doing it for years so it isn't really discussed as much. I love that they had Dee and Kelley in the first game though.
When is this shit going on a proper sale (-70%)?
There's a -100% sale right now.
Shitty mmo/looter shooter gear system keeping the autists around to push numbers for no reason at all.
>Dark Souls difficulty
>Enemy encounter is difficult due to the combination or placement of enemies that back each other up. Placement of enemies usually tends to make it fair with some strategy, like pulling one-by-one or using ranged moves to take one out
>Example: Channeler + 10 Hollow in the Church, multiple enemies that can stagger you into a ranged shot, or a big enemy to lock you into a bunch of the smaller ones. Try to abuse line of sight to funnel the small guys into the hallway and avoid the caster!
>Nioh difficulty
>Big boss enemy and an archer up there that does 50% of your HP if he hits you, he literally hits harder than the fricking boss
>Nioh NG+ difficulty
>There is now 2 archers up there, they now do 70% of your HP. You still have to kill the boss btw.
>Nioh NG++ difficulty
>There is now 3 fricking archers on that cliff, the boss now has an additional add and several bonus buffs
>What? Your build doesn't have the "Reflect All Projectiles" Legendary? What the frick are you doing you idiot, you're trying to build something that isnt meta?
>Well that's ok, just activate your "super OP no-damage-taken and loads of elemental dps" demon mode button and go nuts!
>Wait, you're not building for Infinite Demon Mode either?
I really fricking hated Nioh
You have a bow/rifle/cannon. They are accessible with the click of a single button. You also get bonus damage for headshots. If you temper your ranged weapons they pretty much 1 hit kill most humans in NG. It doesn't matter though because that scenario sounds fake. What boss room has archers? Am I just forgetting?
Nearly EVERY scenario in Nioh 1 had a cheese archer just to piss you off. You're probably just forgetting, but once you realize it, it is incredibly fricking tedious. Half the DLC content is infuriating with that knowledge.
In a boss room? Yes dude, the game has archers. You have a rifle.
I could understand it if the ranged weapons weren't so damn easy to use. It is just constantly equipped though. You just press L2 and there it is. 1 second later you are aiming your rifle. Get a headshot and that enemy isn't there anymore.
>Nearly EVERY scenario in Nioh 1 had a cheese archer just to piss you off
100% this, every time there was a ledge you couldn't immediately reach, there was someone shooting at you from there. Everywhere there was a corner you couldn't see behind there was someone waiting to jump you.
Thankfully Nioh 2 has a much more tasteful amount of these things.
Don't make such ignorant and incorrect shitposts alongside images from good games.
You literally never played the game
I think I played enough of it
That's someone else's gameplay time. You clearly never played the game.
>no no no YOU CLEARLY NEVER PLAYED IT
>and if you did play it YOU WERE FILTERED
Niohgays always showing their mental illness lmao
Nah thats definitely me, Im playing through Nioh 2 right now but I got a bit burnt out by the 2nd world so I put it down for a bit. Definitely less archers, thankfully, but the combat straight up assumes you played Nioh 1 with how difficult it starts out.
No, it's not you. Because no Nioh 1 boss battle has archers.
You're taking someone else's gameplay time to shitpost.
Literally how, what do you need me to prove that its my game time. I can tell you for a fricking fact I played the entire game mashing the Heavy Attack string on Spear for the entire game and was able to breeze through combat. What more fricking evidence do you need you seething copelord.
>What went right?
It cattered to people who actually enjoy video games instead of "I want to be wow-ed"-gays
This series only ever gets mentions in comparison to Souls games. That’s all I need to know about it.
>other people are reductivist morons and shitposters so that means I should be too
A game not being able to stand on its own and needing to use more popular games as stepping stones is a pretty big red flag if you ask me...
should i skip nioh 1
i cant ever bring myself to finish it
You know how modern games streamline and remove features in the sequel in the name of "reaching a broader audience"?
Nioh 2 adds new mechanics on top of every existing mechanic in Nioh 1.
>Why yes, I do use fist weapons exclusively, how could you tell?
Both of them suck so I choose neither.
This game is literally just Borderlands but for Souls refugees.
I love the gameplay.
But god damn the itemization and soul matching mechanics suck.
The itemization gives so many easy to use features and sorting, filter and selecting options that I have to wonder how few games you people have ever actually played. Soul Matching is literally just pick weapon, pick another weapon with higher level and same+ rarity, done, of all the things to single out. The closest thing to an issue with it is it being expensive when regarding normal level, and that isn't actually an issue.
Human bosses aren't great but when you dump a bunch of random shit like that in a clumsy rant it just shows that you need to practice more. They actually follow almost all the rules we do, that's the entire reason the worst ones are as bad as they are, but they can still be rolled over almost entirely if you properly abuse Ki damage and maintain pressure. Even all the stuff you reach at has a lot of ways around it.
>when you complain about the game it just shows that you need to practice more
lmao this really is a refuge for soulsgays
every criticism is just deflected out of hand with the good ol' "git gud"
A mindless rant and "thing suck" isn't criticism, even I gave more criticism by naming a potential issue with Soul Matching. If you want actual advice I can offer it but I won't bother if someone's clearly not in the mood to listen to anything I would say.
Ah yes, "thing suck". Everything I pointed out is a way that human bosses have an unfair advantage over the player. Inflated stats, movesets the player can't use, super armor, infinite consumables, being able to pull buffs out of their asses. None of it is genuine complaints, it's all just "thing suck".
This would be less pathetic if I at least knew you're being paid to deflect criticism from this game with canned git-gud non-arguments but, knowing Ganker, it's very likely you're doing it for free.
I clearly replied to two posts, the other guy was who said quite literally "thing suck". You instead are just b***hing about the challenge set any way you can regardless of how the game or any games work, instead of putting forward any genuine attempt and effort to understand and overcome it. If you actually did want to improve and play the game you might have taken me up on the offer for advice, but you didn't and there's little other reason why you'd make a post as a plea for pity, so this only shows exactly what you're actually here for.
>taken me up on the offer for advice
Always forget I share a board with humanity's best and brightest. You got your head so far up your own ass about this game that your fecal matter is making decisions, which probably explains why you so vehemently defend all of its design flaws like your life and sustenance depended on it, and for free to boot.
The game has problems, and one of them is human bosses who blatantly designed unfairly for the sake of challenge. I'm really sorry that this statement hurts you so deeply, but it's true.
And I'm not actually sorry.
Not him but holy shit dude.
>Inflated stats, movesets the player can't use, super armor, infinite consumables, being able to pull buffs out of their asses
Are these the problems? Have you played a video game before?
He explained that you are just misunderstanding the game. It isn't unfair design. It is you not understanding or not being able to execute methods that would help you overcome the challenges. You need to be aggressive. You need to break the boss's ki. You are on a level playing field. Instead you just want to say "no the game is unfair". Well this might be hard to hear but no the game isn't unfair. There is a way to deal with every situation. That way is usually be aggressive. There are some instances where that could backfire but for the majority of the game it is just a matter of execution. Do you react this way any time somebody tells you to get good? Getting better at a game isn't some Souls exclusive thing. Get good or learn more. Or just summon someone who can do it for you.
Nioh 2 is great as long as you're fighting yokai or generic human enemies.
The way the human bosses blatantly cheat and ignore rules that the player has to follow aggravates me to no end.
They have gigantic ki. And they can parry out of nowhere because they input read. And they have absurd damage output. And they have the HP of 100 players. And they have infinite casts of whatever magic/jutsu they carry, which they can carry pretty much all of them at once regardless of cost. And they activate ki buffs without pulsing, just by changing stance. And they swing big weapons that have huge reach with speed you can only match with a sword on low stance that will only hit directly in front of you. And their charge attacks come out instantly. And they have burst attacks that don't matter if you counter because human ki just regenerates on the spot. And they have unblockable grabs. And they have random super armor like yokai do, except it's not tied to ki because frick the rules.
And then there's the one that can fly, and the one that has infinite uses of gust talisman meaning he's pretty much completely immune to ninjutsu, and the one that has infinite ammo on a gun he can fire without aiming, and oh my God, what a fricking shitshow.
And, by the way, every single fricking weapon has two blatantly unfair human boss dojo fights in order to unlock all their skills.
Every time I think about replaying this, I remember these bullshit fights and decide I could probably find something better to do.
Lmfao just use tonfas or some other ki depletion weapon, not one human enemy gave me trouble and I didn’t even bother with like 30% of the game options for damage or content, I never even used the Samurai tree damage boosters/ki consumption increase choices or even unlocked them, never touched onmyo, 350 hours, none of it mattered because ki weapons just wreck their shit(they wreck everything’s shit really).
>mission gives me an NPC helper
>summon revanents and watch them fight the NPC
Should I play Nioh 1 before 2?
Also any cool armors? I'm a giga heavy armor chad so I gotta have my armors.
Nioh 1 is a great game itself and has its own bosses and missions that are worth playing, but Nioh 2 largely builds upon it and improves in just about every way possible. This does mean that starting with 1 will give you good practice with the core mechanics (provided you actually make that effort to do so) before 2 adds additional ones, but both games have massive levels of content and depth that you can put thousands of hours into if you want and if you were to only play one game you'd probably go with 2. Story is also not a very big factor at all in this game but 2 does have a few moments that are a bit cooler with knowledge from 1. Speaking of which, 1 has a dedicated main character in William while 2 has you create your own character, and both games have an option to transform into different NPCs.
If you're a fan of samurai armours then yeah there's a ton of great looking ones, including heavier stuff. There's also a Refashion option to let you make anything look like anything else.
Good thing this game doesn't need to do that at all. You should know now more than ever that mass public perception is often heavily flawed, ignorant and based on first impressions that rarely if ever hold up.
>Good thing this game doesn't need to do that at all
>Never gets discussed outside direct Souls comparisons
As I said before, that's all I need to know about it.
I tried the alpha, saw enemies dropping the same item "but this time it has 2 extra damage points!", quit and uninstalled it.
Any game that handles look in such a way is trash.
you have autism
So basically Team Ninja gave up on Nioh and decided to outright copy Elden Ring and Sekiro? wow.
>Sekiro and Elden Ring invented Ninja GaIden
>character creation like Nioh 2
Somehow I doubt that it'll be as good as the CC in Nioh 2.
Or allow for breasts half as big,
In the interview they said pretty explicitly that they were using the same general creator, just with options to fit the settings so it'll be less Japanese tattoos etc. and more Chinese ones.
>more action compared to Nioh 2
Not 5 seconds pass by in the game where I'm not pummeling an enemy into oblivion (or the opposite)
How much more action-y could it get
>From watching the gameplay, I could tell that the speed of combat has definitely been increased when compared to Nioh. Make no mistake though, this isn’t the over-the-top action Team NINJA made itself famous for with NINJA GAIDEN either. It’s kind of somewhere in between
Personally I wouldn't put much faith into what a journo would say regarding the game's combat or pace. It's highly unlikely they've ever scratched the surface of how fast Nioh could be pushed (or Stranger of Paradise for that matter), so we just have to try and read between the lines and wait for actual gameplay. The things about seamlessly combining offense and defense sound very interesting though, it said something about being able to block during attacks. My mind initially went somewhere like MGR but maybe it's more like a timed parry that doesn't interrupt the action at all, which could be really cool. Imagine Opportunist or Soul Shield but you can do it during any attack, and the challenge is being able to juggle both consistently without pause while enemies are constantly bearing down on you and doing the same shit.
Sounds cool. I hope they show us gameplay BEFORE gamescom but it's seems unlikely.
Considering it's supposed to release in a year I feel like (hope) that they might even have a demo version of some kind relatively soon, they've gotten into the habit of doing that and there's not really much time until release overall if they were to do it.
Ninja Gaiden always winz baybey
>this is the only Elden Ring thread bumping on Ganker
Every game series is dealing with some moronic console warring from dedicated shitposters that make it their personaly and people still have the gall to say Ganker is the only good place to discuss video games
>and people still have the gall to say Ganker is the only good place to discuss video games
I don't think a single person is saying that. It is one of the few places that is lax on censorship though unfortunately. It just sucks that I share a board with these fricking genuine morons. They buy into it so easily.
>Every game series is dealing with some moronic console warring
Not this one, though. Entire series available wherever you want to play it, as all of them should be.
It's already on steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/1448440/Wo_Long_Fallen_Dynasty/
I'm mostly just throwing shit out there, but I'm sure if they were able to do similar things there would also be guard breaks and unblockable attacks. After all they'd need to have them for you if you can guard and attack at once. I guess what I'm describing would be like the NG doppleganger fights, but with clearer methods to enable proper varieties of combos and damage.
it didn't outlive anything. God, it's so forced how Nioh false flaggers are trying create some imaginary rivalry with Elden Ring that doesn't exist.
fists and switch glaive best weapons
I wonder if that chinese game TN will play like nioh