>Outsources your most beloved and successful title, so you can make your biggest flop since Radiant Dawn.
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>Outsources your most beloved and successful title, so you can make your biggest flop since Radiant Dawn.
Engage wasn't outsourced you moron, it was developed by IntSys and an internal Nintendo team. Three Houses was the one outsourced to Koei Tecmo.
That's exactly what he's saying...they outsourced the most beloved and successful title (3H) and made the biggest flop since radiant dawn themselves.
Damn you're right, I'm the moron, sorry OP you homosexual
>admits his mistake despite there being no gain due to anonymity
>insults the OP at the same time
I can't kneel hard enough
>most beloved
>three houses
By trannies, secondaries and twittertards sure, real fans dropped that shit inmediatly.
it has bernie. it can't be that bad.
Berniegay, I love you but you can't deny that your waifu is stuck in an absolute shit game.
Three Turds is shit. I rather Awakening and Fates
three houses was popular because it wasn't modern IS making it
awakening, fates, engage are all complete shit
>conquest
>complete shit
you're right, my bad. it's incomplete shit, you had to buy the true ending separately
>storygay
Back to
you troony
Conquest's endgame is far better than revelations.
Can people stop pretending that game was good, I can’t think of a better sacred cow in the Fire Emblem fanbase
Remember when everyone thought the leaks were fake, a mobile game, or a Chinese knockoff. And then in the cruelest twist of fate, it was real.
>Can people stop pretending that game was good, I can’t think of a better sacred cow in the Fire Emblem fanbase
5?
6?
12?
Those games fans can at least admit the games flaws. Conqueers just think that Conquest is absolute perfection and that any criticism about it means you’re just bad. They’re just like Bloodbornegays.
>Conqueers just think that Conquest is absolute perfection and that any criticism about it means you’re just bad?
Source? Other than your anus filled with Black person wiener of course
As a conquestchad, here's what's absolute shit about conquest:
>my castle bullshit that forces you to arena gamble just to get resources that you did not get
>my castle random items being game breaking, such as the umbrella
>some absolute garbage maps like 11, 15, 19 and 21
And that's all on top of my head
Why does conquest upset you so much 3HRtroony?
Conquestgays are the first to admit that the game’s characters and plot are absolute garbage. If you mash start whenever somebody opens their mouth you get a really engaging strategy game, which is where the only praise comes from. Not unlike Engage, really.
Awakening was good.
Awakening followed the two most soulless remakes ever created, which themselves had followed two great games that were graphical eyesores.
With the good in Awakening came some bad, and it was the bad they leaned into going forward.
Stupid dev team.
Awakening was boring. It literally catered to personagays, which is why those homosexuals actually defend that shit so hard.
Lucina is basically a persona character in all but name.
Three Houses attracted a bunch of trannies to the franchise and killed it and any good discussion of it forever.
At least Engage actually has good gameplay, unlike Three Houses.
>Three Houses attracted a bunch of trannies to the franchise
awakening already did that lmao, don't delude yourself. even the tellius games were extremely pozzed. they did a poll recently and a fourth of soren voters in CYL were transgender.
Gameplay by itself isn’t enough to carry a whole game idiot
>Captcha: XXXX8
This is the kind of shit that I'd expect to see in a sonygay thread
It's more likely that the A team was working on paper Mario while KT made three houses and the B team made engage.
>3H
Elegant artstyle
>Engage
WEEEEEEEEEEB
Both are trash
Damn you FEcucks standards are worse than Sonic fans standards
How is Three Houses not good?
The gameplay is the antithesis to FE.
How so?
he's a fake oldgay who thinks changing the gameplay completely is anything new to the franchise when kaga did it four times
Kaga had four chances to make FE fun and failed four times.
>BUT MUH GENEOLGY
No homie, you need to speed that shit to make it bearable.
New Mystery is a fun game. Thracia is a fun game despite or probably because of[spoiler] the jank.[/spoiler]
How is 3H good? Everything aside from a few characters is dogshit.
>Walk around place
>Talk to NPCs
>Click menus
>Go through a lot of dialogue boxes
I still find it surprising Cringe Houses is the peak sales of this franchise
Literally all of those are typical RPG elements.
>Cringe Houses
You must be 18 to post on this website.
>Whooo Hooo! I love doing chores in my video game!
How does it feel having shit standards?
It feels great not being an ADHD riddled sperg who absolutely cannot immerse himself in anything but combat and doesn't enjoy the preparations before it.
Literally all of those stick a fricking wrench in the fire emblem gameplay loop and make it less clean without adding anything of value.
I wish these devs would stop to ask "does including this improve the game?" before adding stupid shit to appease the add of casuals who don't even like these games.
3Hgays first try turning fire emblem into a RPG instead of TRPG
Then they try turning it into a VN
>TRPG
>Not an RPG
>TRPG
Does it stand for
Trash
Role
Playing
Game ?
>Are those… RPG elements in my SRPG!?!?!? AHHHHHHHHHHH HELP ME CONQUEST! I’M! GOING! INSANE!!!!!
Conquest had that too. Both games are fricking trash.
Do you even like Fire Emblem at all? Because if you don't, your opinion about specific entries is irrelevant.
I hope they realized that choosing a shitty artist can cause the game to flop
The only reason Three Houses was good was because they outsourced it and moved it as far away from nuIS as possible. It's genuinely heartbreaking that Koei understands the tone of FE better than the nuIS Fateswakengage dev team.
I'm not seeing how this shows it's a flop
The only thing they did that could be considered outsourcing was bring on Mika Pikazo, but it proved to be the game's death knell. The characters are so fricking ugly.
>was bring on Mika Pikazo,
this
I have no idea why they took a strategy series primarily played by teens and adults and tried to make a game for elementary schoolers
>I have no idea why they took a strategy series primarily played by teens and adults and tried to make a game for elementary schoolers
Nobody tell her that this series has always been a children's franchise.
lol no
only engage and at a stretch the gba entries
It's on Nintendo? Yes? It's for kids.
Nintendo has always targeted all ages especially families. The majority of games bought are played by adults. It's easier to get adults to buy the system for their kids if there are games they want to play as well
>ring fit
damn
Bayonetta has been Nintendo exclusive for a while though.
>children's franchise
It's started off as all ages and varied. But even if it's all ages you don't want to alienate players with clowns that look like they've been run over by motorbikes.
I hate how Heroes turned her into a child
FEBlack folk don't deserve good things. Pikazo is the best artist this franchise ever had.
Go back to Xenoblade 2 you moepig troony
>go back to the best selling xeno game
ok
that sold less than three houses because nobody likes moepig trash
3H only sold that much due to how hard it got shilled in nintendo directs and E3
Engage flopped because it got shilled only once in a E3
Cope homosexual, you're literally pokegays tiers of moronic
engage flopped because people played it and saw it was shit. it had the biggest launch of any FE game and then the sales collapsed immediately because people warned others not to buy it.
>we live in a world where people told their friends not to get the latest FE because it wasn't as deep as Edelgard
How revolting.
Potential players are attracted to the characters and fans are the ones who market them by doing fanart or reposting official art while discussing them. Engage died because the story and character design are both awful. The gameplay wasn't enough to carry it.
>The gameplay wasn't enough to carry a SRPG, you need halfassed plot and LOOOOOOOOORE
How revolting.
Lol yes moron. JRPGs need interesting stories and likeable characters. Engage didn't have that and that's why Engage bombed.
>JRPG
Learn what type of game FE is posting, moron.
Yes. FE's gameplay, even at it's best, is nothing special.
You wish, FFT or Disgaeagay.
This really needs to get posted more, it's absolutely pathetic when people obsessed with series that have completely blank maps with height differences at most and units that generally also just steamroll things with raw numbers and broken builds act as if their games are somehow tactical genius.
It had the biggest launch of a FE game because FEgays were the only ones that followed the new game and knew it existed
It had no legs because non FE gays didn't know it existed since it got completely overshadowed by zelda in its E3
your logic makes no sense lmao.
"it didn't get enough advertising and that's why more people knew it was coming out than any over FE game"
what you're trying to argue makes zero fricking sense. you can't argue advertising killed a game that did amazingly well in preorders and first week sales and then only nosedived once people got to play it and realised it was shit.
FEgays bought the game and they didn't need to have Nintendo shill the game
NonFEgays didn't buy the game because Nintendo didn't shill the game enough
It's that simple you moron
then why did it have more first week sales than any other FE title you utter fricking moron. if it was only hardcore FEgays who knew it was coming out it would have had less.
It was coasting off of the popularity of 3H and Heroes.
I mean, yes and it kinda wasted that.
Also overshadowed by another great game
Also going by this meme why do these threads actually feel harassing?
AW flopped even harder though
Turns out that tendies REALLY only want to play movie games. Imagine if TLOU was on the switch, that would be a 100+ million copy seller
AW reboot unironically looks worse than the GBA games. A large number of fans have complained about this.
Rent free. Engage is still the best FE with the best gameplay and artstyle.
t. has only played Engage and the Xenoblade series
I've actually played all of them except Fates.
Best gameplay is conquest, and best art style is echoes, pikazo does not fit Fe at all.
Holy Kek anon I’m on the phone with someone and while reading this thread and I bursted a laugh from the first word of your reply!!
You can take her back to whatever franchise you like so she'll kill it for you.
>game with ambush spawns, copypasted bland maps, half of the game being eating with students to raise motivation to increase skills so they can promote to wyverns because every single class can use any weapon is a raging success
Tendies hate good games, what else is new?
three house is just “persona 5 at home” before tendies actually got persona 5
Three Houses is evergreen. Its probably passed 4 million copies by now.
Unintelligible Systems should go Bankrupt
Why did they bring the fates writer back bros? Was it internal sabotage?
>Why did they bring the fates writer back bros?
she's fricking the lead dev
either that or they shat engage out without any quality control
the guy in charge of the manga adaptation has literally never had a manga that wasn't cancelled due to low readership
Nope it was a Monkey’s Paw for you spoiled FE shitters getting all uppity whenever your series doesn’t show up in a Nintendo Direct
As far as we know Engage was basically being developed at the same time as 3H. Fateswakening was working so far, so they just continued it.
3H was meant to be a filler release to tide over people, but IS was completely blindsided by how well it was recieved.
why wouldn't they bring her back? every game she's worked on has been one of the top 5 in the series in terms of sales. Explain in a way a corporate manager can understand why a successful game writer with a proven track record should be fired due to Ganker not liking her, i'll wait.
Because Awakening and Fates' main complaints were the bad writing, they removed her from the writing staff which resulted in the best selling game in the franchise with the primary praise going to its writing, and then they brought her back and saw a massive sales drop with the main criticism once again being the writing.
>they removed her from the writing staff which resulted in the best selling game in the franchise with the primary praise going to its writing
Which goes to show the people who think they know a good story do not in fact know a good story.
Awakening
>this game is good but the writing's shit
Fates
>this game is good but the writing's shit
Three Houses
>this game is good and wow the writing isn't totally shit?
>becomes the bestselling game in the franchise
>gameplay is shit so all the praise goes to the story and characters
Engage
>why have they gone back to the Fates writer
>over a 60% drop in sales from the previous entry
>>this game is good and wow the writing isn't totally shit?
Nobody but troons said this.
you're coping hard
And you're falling back on the word of newbies who never played an FE and think pic is a deep character.
Anon, he probably is one of them.
are you trying to pretend fates wasn't shat on for its writing now?
It was, it still is, and oh look it was the best selling in the franchise at the time
You going to pretend that Fates is not an excuse for 3H being a poorly written game?
man it's crazy to see newbies who don't even remember when awakening released try to talk about the series like they know anything at all about it.
okay to be fair awakening escaped a lot of criticism because nobody had any expectations back then but in retrospect nobody calls its story or characters good
>Awakening
>>this game is good
Was it? What about the awful maps, the broken pair-up mechanic, the absurd stat growths on every character, or the ambush spawns?
It’s not Fire Emblem, it’s a completely new franchise
Anon even the Engage writers acknowledge that 3H was a better written game than anything else nuIS have made. There's a running joke in Engage supports that in Elyos Three Houses is an incredibly complex and famous series of 37 novels. To deny there is a difference is just delusional because even the fricking developers recognise that there is one.
>Anon even the Engage writers acknowledge that 3H was a better written game than anything else nuIS have made. There's a running joke in Engage supports that in Elyos Three Houses is an incredibly complex and famous series of 37 novels. To deny there is a difference is just delusional because even the fricking developers recognise that there is one.
Anon, both games were made at the same time. They wouldn't have known about the reactions until the game was over.
IRRC it's revealed in support convos which could have been saved until the end.
Engage didn't finish development until mid 2020. There was about 10 months to see the positive reaction. I don't even know why you're disagreeing with this, it's literally in Boucheron's supports. This isn't hypothetical, it's literally in the game.
You mean they went back to add dialogue where they shit on Engage?
How mentally ill are you that you think Engage complimenting Three Houses is Engage shitting on Engage? Those are two completely different things.
I didn't, you insinuated it.
No I insinuated the Engage devs think Three Houses was better written than Engage. Elevating 3H isn't automatically shitting on Engage.
I can't take the characters seriously when they look like moeblobs
The worst thing about Engage flopping is the fact that people are unironically claiming that 3H had good plot now
A clumsily told Geneology knockoff is better than Engage's story.
That's the way it is. FE has always been about its characters since its inception. The mechanics were built around not wanting them to die.
Kaga figured out characters were important to an SRPG based around unique character growth in 1996 lmao. It's amazing Engagecopers are still in denial about it.
>FE has always been about its characters since its inception. The mechanics were built around not wanting them to die.
This has never been true since the beginning tbh, most of the characters you would recruit would have like three to four texts of dialogue and then their ending. The FE1 remake on the DS shows how barebones it is.
It has. Like 90% of the reason people use a unit in FE is if it looks cool or they want to frick it. Most of the most popular GBA characters are shit units.
Engage threw out these fundamental part of FE by hiring a hack artist who can't draw medieval fantasy.
>It has. Like 90% of the reason people use a unit in FE is if it looks cool or they want to frick it. Most of the most popular GBA characters are shit units.
All of this is post-Kaga my dude.
>All of this is post-Kaga my dude.
The most popular FE4 girls are Ayra (shit unit), Ishtar (unplayable) and Lachesis (shit unit).
It has literally always been the case.
>The most popular FE4 girls are Ayra (shit unit), Ishtar (unplayable) and Lachesis (shit unit).
Literally nobodies compared to the GBA games.
Yes the GBA games whose most popular girls are Lyn (shit unit) Nino (shit unit) and Amelia (shit unit)
FE6's most popular girl is Lilina who is a straight downgrade of Lugh.
FE7's most popular girl is *tink tink tink* Lyndis.
Designs have always superseded gameplay viability. I mean holy shit Lapis is popular and she sucks as.
It's designs > characterisation > usability. Always has been, always will be. Most Engage characters fail at the first two which is why the game struggled to stay relevant.
>FE6's most popular girl is Lilina who is a straight downgrade of Lugh.
>FE7's most popular girl is *tink tink tink* Lyndis.
Those two characters are popular because they wash the main characters' balls, these types of characters are always popular in Japan because every Japanese man is one bad quota away from seppuku.
kill your fricking self unironically
Most FE1 and FE2 characters are literal palette swaps with 1 text line max
4, the absolute "holy grail" of the franchise is still filled with literally nothing units like Midir and Alec despite the overall small cast of playable characters
5 shits at you a bunch of units that get absolutely no text lines. Remember Alva? Of course you don't
6 is infested with literal nothing units. For me, it's Ogier
7 relies on Lyn mode to give characters some personality. Despite being a FE6 prequel and having a lot of material to work with, it still does nothing other than sucking the shit out of the 3 lords
8 is a bad game and I can't remember shit about it
9 is the ONLY game in the franchise with actual good characters and plot
10 made FE9 characters even more likeable but completely shat on the new ones. Tell me, what the frick was the purpose of Lyre?
11 and 12 are FE6 tier but worse
13 characters are engage tier gimmick characters
14 characters are awakening tier characters to the point that 3 characters are literal awakening characters and some child units are awakening reskins
15 actually improved on gayden and there's only a few characters that do absolutely nothing
16 is a grooming simulator, so of course people suddenly only care about characters and claim that the franchise was always about the characters despite the fact that it FRICKING ISN'T
17 is awakening 3.0 but it's suddenly bad now because homosexuals wanted to groom more underage kids
If 3H is the future of the franchise, then I absolutely HOPE that the franchise dies fricking again, I'll stick to romhacks myself
>4, the absolute "holy grail" of the franchise
I'm glad I'll never be this insane.
Tell that to the moronic jpn and deluded storyhomosexuals, they still want a story on par with FFT and TO
The premise of FE4 is interesting but the second half isn't as interesting and the gameplay is very jank. Same for FE5.
Yeah, FE4gays are moronic. I genuinely don't understand why that game gets sucked off so damn hard when it's literally trash. Even the second half of the game is just a worse version of FF6
>Remember Alva? Of course you don't
Most people don't even remember Thracia
>6/7/8
They have supports, the system is grindy as frick, but it's there
>11 and 12 are FE6 tier but worse
And I remember people finding the games boring because the characters were fricking nothing
>17 is awakening 3.0 but it's suddenly bad now because homosexuals wanted to groom more underage kids
People have shat on Fateswakening characters since day 1. Frick, I even saw Awakeninggays shit on Fates' cast. This is just the first time it affected sales.
There's also the fact that until, like the N64 (arguably Gamecube), video game stories could be very limited by the hardware.
>Frick, I even saw Awakeninggays shit on Fates' cast.
And now awakeningfatesgays are shitting on Engage's cast despite being the exact same kind of cancer. The hate that Engage is getting is just fricking ridiculous. It's pokeshit tiers of moron, people suddenly have
>standards
Bitch, they released a fricking musou game based solely on 3H and they still fricked that up
2 fricking games and it was still shit. That's not ambitious, that's just going full fricking moron. There's nothing great about it
FE4/5 were more ambitious and didn't go full moron. FE9/10 were more ambitious and didn't go full moron until the blood pact bullshit. 3H went full moron from the get go by making 4 routes, having 2 routes be copypasted, 1 route be straight up unfinished and generic and having only 1 single route be tolerable. People only discuss it due to the MUH ANIME HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG
That happens with ANY fricking game
Hell, even engayge had homosexuals going apeshit when they found out how overpowered dogs were
>people suddenly have
Yes. They have standards now. Awakening and Fates were both the same non-FE quirkshit. Three Houses attempted to capture the tone of the Jugdral and Tellius games which revealed to every newbie that FE didn't have to be quirkshit. Then Engage comes out and it's a leap back into the quirkshit era.
It's like drinking piss your entire life, getting a gulp of water, and then realising you have to go back to drinking piss. 3H wasn't even that good and yet it was a massive step above anything else nuIS have made.
FE3H is not a step in the right direction. They showed how easily IS will compromise the story for the sake of waifushit.
Funny, when IS did the same with AW days of ruin and FE10, both franchises fricking died
because most advance wars player are children who would actually like the tone of something like engage
I accept your concession
do you not understand what target demographics are?
if you make fire emblem look too much like a game for children it's primarily teenage and adult audience won't buy it
if you make advance wars look too gritty and edgy parents won't buy it for their children who were the main demographic for the series
Look anon, I'm not going to read your post past
>do you not understand what target demographics are?
Are you telling me that the awakeningfates demographic didn't want Engage? Specially after echoes, an actual FE serious game, flopped absolutely hard?
I don't respect your opinions at all
>Are you telling me that the awakeningfates demographic didn't want Engage?
Considering its poor sales, yes
>Considering its poor sales, yes
But Engage isn't that far behind Fates and Awakening in sales tho.
Days of ruin was a greater leap in tone from Tellius to Awakening and the reason FE was in trouble was because it offered nothing but remakes for two entries. AW never sold that well in the first place.
At least fricking someone gets it. I'm "glad" Awakening saved the franchise from dying, because I got Echoes, 3 Houses, and Three Hopes (I like musou too). But yeah now I have to put up with the nu fanbase which reeks of BO and piss.
Yeah you will be more glad when FE gets more pozzed and infested with mentally ill alphabet people.
>which revealed to every newbie that FE didn't have to be quirkshit.
Are you really just going to ignore half your game's cast?
Bernadetta and Leonie are especially bad.
Like far beyond Awakening level bad.
Awakening & Fates cast at least look better than Engage.
Look at all those literal whos nobody cares about
That's because it was best they could do with the game being released on the NES with barely any room for text. Kaga gave them all unique designs and roles within the party. Nintendo even tried to do an anime with the story but failed, but did license out a manga. When they jumped to the SNES the characters received much more characterization.
Heroes only exists and makes insane money because people love the characters so much. Shut the frick up, moron.
The comparison is supposed to be with games like Famicom Wars, where the characters are faceless and disposable. Even in the NES days Kaga wanted you to craft a story with growth rates and permadeath constantly changing the game experience.
Awakening should’ve flopped, we all would be here in this thread right now
It's because 3H had POTENTIAL and a lot of it. It was too ambitious and ultimately dropped the ball, but it was close to being great. Engage is just shit. It's just Awakening and Fates all over again.
>but it was close to being great. Engage is just shit.
3H will never be a good game tho, the gameplay is terrible and the lore is useless since it never comes into play. Engage on the other runs circles around it gameplaywise, aka the only thing that matters in TRPGs.
>aka the only thing that matters in TRPGs.
most TRPG players clearly disagree with you lmao
>most TRPG tourists clearly disagree with you lmao
ok
Nah most TRPGS put some effort into the story and characters. Even XCOM where there aren't any unique playable characters makes you care about the characters you crate through permadeath and offer an interesting setting and serviceable story.
>most TRPG players clearly disagree with you lmao
You mean the troons who make mods like
? I feel bad for you sis.
3H wasn’t ambitious at all you absolute buffoon, 4 routes full of filler and the antagonists motivations aren’t even as sensible as fricking Medeus.
>muh sales
Posting the 2nd most popular and best FE game. And if you try and say otherwise I'll point to you that it sold 2nd best after 3H, ergo it's the 2nd best right behind 3H.
Salesgays get the rope.
If you wanna talk popularity, should we mention that Engage got beaten in popularity by both 3H and Geneology when it was at maximum relevancy?
Fates was like number 7 or something, which is where Engage will end up after it's no longer the newest game (actually might go even lower)
>beaten in popularity by both 3H and Geneology
lol in what?
Corrin-dummies and Alear-tards deserve the rope more
You posted 2 shit games OP. What is your point
I refuse to play 3H becuase it looks too much of a chore to play. I just like the sRPG gameplay, nothing else
The last Fire Emblem game I've played was Radiant Dawn
I'm going to play the newer games eventually
Engage is a lot better than 3H. Especially for repeat playthroughs. Especially so.
3H is actually pretty dreadful on repeat playthroughs.
A shame 3H's DLC isn't longer because it's way better than its main game.
Engage is solid from the get go though.
How would thought nintendo troons wanted a persona game after all.
Reminder that the only country that has experienced every FE title will tell you, even at Engage's maximum recency bias, that the best FE games are the ones that actually care about the story, world and characters.
Meanwhile Fates is plummeting to the bottom of their opinion polls.
>that the best FE games are the ones that actually care about the story, world and characters.
Then why is 3H at the top?
>awakening in top 5
That should tell you everything and their dogshit taste.
Awakening will probably always get at least a good amount of votes due to being THE newbie game for the series (unless an even bigger one shows up and a good amount of time passes), giving it a bunch of nostalgia votes.
Awakening is just mediocre at worst. If you enjoy eugenics and skill emblem autism it's an absolute blast. Has a decent amount of replayability and IntSys crammed a lot extra content in it expecting it to be the last game
I enjoy skill emblem but I think it has to be more limited like fe4,5 maybe 9 or 10.
The awakening/fates reclassing and skill system is too open and making characters often comes down to just optimizing class and skill choices to abuse the same obvious combos.
I really didn't like that system much in retrospect, even if it adds some depth to character building.
The skill system did get more limited in Awakening and Fates though. The only one of those that you listed that had limited skill customization is FE4 and even then you have the rings to pass around skills and weapons that came with skills. In FE5 you can just give people scrolls to teach them skills in addition to whatever they come with, same with FE9 except now there's a weight limit to the skills equipped. FE10 lets you remove a unit's personal skill to give away. Awakening hard limited what skills certain characters could access, and Fates took it farther by limiting the amount of time a unit has to gain skills.
Awakening and fates where you have like 8 skills you don't even bother using are not "limited" skill systems.
The whole point is that you plan out your unit routes and pick and choose meta skills to have in everyone, only half your army being able to inherit galeforce does not make it limited.
Ah yes the Japanese continue to have shit taste here too, just like with the Xenobawds in Smash too
lol remember the narrative that only westerners like 3h?
I miss the guy who would have posted "Bernie Bernie Bernie" in this thread by now.
I hope he's doing ok
No
I'd use this all the time too. It's like a sledgehammer for Fates and Engage copes.
It's the opposite when it shows that people think a bad game like 3H is better than FE4. Anon posts it because she loves shitting on FE.
Awakening has charm. It's simple done well. Engage is simple done badly.
sure you awakening zoomer, I bet you got very emotional when chrom sister committed suicide
Awakening is just as bad. Only kids who played Awakening as their first FE think it has good writing or is better than Fates and Engage.
Awakening killed and changed the series for the worst
Real talk, Fire emblem has some of the most dog shit gameplay ever and i only care about it because female character designs, porn fan art and the OST's. Absolutely shit franchise otherwise.
At least 3H's story was fun.
The truth is that Fire Emblem was never a very good series.
Exactly it has no north on what they want to be.
Sadly FE is one of the better TRPGs in the genre followed closely by pre 6 disgaea.
Don't start that shit. FE1-5 were all great and were constantly increasing in quality. 6-9 may have been a side-grade rather than an overall improvement but they were still good games with great map design, characters, etc. And they had a better art style and better villains than the original 5 games overall as well. It wasn't until FE10 when the writing started to go full moron and every character became as one-note as Ilyana or the old school disposable characters. And it wasn't until FE13 or 14 that we saw the full moronation on display. nuFE isn't a very good series, old FE was good.
>Sonic was never good
Fire Emblem was always niche
Fire Emblem wouldn’t even exist without Famicom/Advance Wars
And yet most of these threads are people yelling and bickering at each other for nothing
I think the west has had enough Fire Emblem, it should go back to being Japan Exclusive, Pokémon is the better selling RPG anyway
My copy of Genealogy looks a little different but either way the gameplay is fun
I wonder if this pattern is going to become a meme if the game gets remade
As a FE4 fan excited to play the game for the first time, I don't understand what that image has to do with FE4
Major spoiler-ACK!
Just a fun barbecue don't think too deeply on it.
Get woke go broke.
>biggest flop since Radiant Dawn
are you moronic
>FE thread
>Everybody is mad, and every game is shit except for the one I started with
Every time.
At least when 3H came out, we all liked it for half a year until Smashies threw a fit like they always do.
>liked it for half a year
I don't remember that
I remember Bernie hate, I remember monastery hate, I remember blatantly unfinished game hate, I remember janky 10FPS cutscenes hate, I remember massive Byleth hate due it being the first mute protagonist, I remember frogleth hate, I remember shit writing hate and I remember people spamming how you shouldn't play verdant wind and silver snow back to back
If anything, the smash reveal seems to have made 3H more beloved. Maybe Bylethgays went ultra defensive and formed a shill campaign to fight against the smashtards, I don't know
Nah, I remember plenty of fun threads as people discovered and discussed the game.
you're talking to some fatesschizo who's just mad the franchise left him behind
>FE thread
>everyone hates nu-FE games
>3DSgays and Switchgays feel personally attacked so they start shitting up the thread
Wtf does smashies have have to do with it Girl Marth? Are you talking out of your ass or some shit? Go back to your Hogwarts Garbage Dumpster Monastery
Byleth was so shit even the official Sonic Twitter made fun of it
Frogleth.....
So that’s where the Frogleth joke came from?
No
>Three Houses attempted to capture the tone of the Jugdral and Tellius games
Lmao
It did though. If you can't see how had Three Houses rips off the worldbuilding of Genealogy you clearly haven't played it. The devs even admit they plagiarised it.
Unlike 3H, FE4 didn't skirt around the obvious errors of the antagonists and try to paint them as heroes who can be saved with hugs like Edelgard.
Edelgard dies in 3/4 timelines
Unlike Arvis she never realizes the error of her ways
Because she's evil. Reptor and Lombard never did either.
God, Reptor was such a little shit.
What a little b***h, it was gratifying to see him die like one.
Why should she? She's right in the one timeline where she wins. Alvis only "regrets" what he did when Julius kills his wife and he slowly loses all his political power. And even then, he still doesn't join Seliph because he'd rather die and be with Diedre than fight alongside the son of the man he despised.
>man he despised
Where does the game ever say this?
Guy shows up in early part 1 to give Sigurd a silver sword and wish him luck, says it's a shame Sigurd will have to die for his ambitions maybe 1 chapter before the barbeque and then so far as I know doesn't comment on it for the rest of the game.
Where does he say anything like this, did I miss something?
As far as I can remember he doesn't hate Sigurd but sees him as a sacrificial pawn. He only starts hating Sigurd out of jealousy when he realises his Deirdre is also Sigurd's Deirdre.
I don't think it even mentions the last part but he clearly sees Sigurd as a sacrifice necessary for what he wants to do, and seems to not be happy about it even.
It was kind of a shock seeing him be such a cuck and get shit talked by Julius after the time skip, I wonder how he even let that happen when he had the reigns to fricking everything in his hands.
In chapter 10, Julius said to Arvis if he wants thing to "go like last time" after Arvis tries to take charge and he then relents, so I think it´s sort of implied that both fought at one point but due to Julius´s Loptyr tome he becomes nearly untouchable and easily beats him. There is also the fact that the Loptyr sect became so infiltrated in Grannvale that Manfroy and them quickly take over once Arvis is "put in his place" by his son.
He says Sigurd doesn't impress him in Chapter 1 and is clearly eager to kill him because he wants Deidre to himself. At minimum, he always holds a level of jealousy towards him.
Everything you said is clear in the game. You don't need to rely on the manga.
Yeah I know but the manga basically spells it out dramatic fashion. The in-game dialogue doesn't do as good a job especially if you're playing with one of the older translations
The jealousy isn't a factor until Chapter 3. At the start he's just surprised Sigurd hasn't cleared up the Verdanites already.
The manga, which is written with input from Kaga, makes it clear that Alvis's is main goal was to have Sigurd get rid of all the corrupt nobles and then get rid of Sigurd to keep Diedre. He'd then slowly help improve the empire before the Julius incident happens. He secretly helps kids escape the child hunts so he's regretful of the aftermath of Julius turning everything to shit.
She turns into a moronic baby in one of the timelines that you didn't list because of shit writing
3H is literally just a modern day rip off of FE4 right down to sharing the same plot beats outside of children
>FE9
>recruit Jill
>she betrays you if you make her talk to her father unless you give her some character development with Mist and Lethe supports
>3HRT
>recruit Sylvain because you were born with a vegana
>he kills Felyx, he kills Ingrid, he kills THE BOAR because
>also recruit Anette and make her kill her father because lmao
3HRT fans will go absolute apeshit once they play the FE4 remake and realize that they were trolled. 3H is nothing like FE4 other than legendary weapons being a thing
Kusakihara is on record saying something like "yeah we just copied the plot of Genealogy but shoved it back ten years so the academy backstory was the playable part"
At least Jugdral doesn’t have a shitty self insert avatar
Is comparing 3h to Genealogy some kind of cope??
>At least Jugdral doesn’t have a shitty self insert avatar
It had Seliph who was just as bad honestly.
At least Seliph’s fans aren’t annoying or obnoxious like the Corrin/Alear pic spammers
Until he gets contaminated by mericans pozzed views
3 is the best old emblem
3h is the best new emblem
4gays should get the rope
good
the less fire emblem the better
He's a more interesting character than everyone in 3H.
He looks like he belongs in Pokémon
THE STRATEGY AND RPG ELEMENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK IN HARMONY. 3H'S RPG ELEMENTS OVERTAKE THE STRATEGY ELEMENTS WHICH MAKES IT INFERIOR AMONG OTHER FE GAMEPLAYWISE AND A CHORE TO PLAY. RPGgayS GET THE FRICK OUT OF MY FRANCHISEEEEEEEEEEE GO PLAY XENOBLADE.
GET FRICKED WE'RE TAKING OVER YOUR SERIES
I support you, anti3h sakuraposter.
I think I saw you get mad in another thread a while back too, either that or that image is just perfect for those kinds of outbursts.
Kaga, the father of FE, disagrees with you and made Genealogy of the Holy War.
If anything, genealogy throws you even more into things and pulls you out to lecture at you or have tea time or whatever shit less.
Hell, 90% of the story in that game takes place in map, which is very cool.
GENEALOGY IS THE ONLY KAGA GAME LIKE THAT, HE DIALED THOSE ELEMENTS BACK FOR THRACIA AND TRS AND VESTARIA (AND BERWICK IS TOO DIFFERENT TO BE COMPARED). BESIDES, FE4 IS DIRECTLY INSPIRED BY ANOTHER STRATEGY GAME LANGRISSER.
>GENEALOGY IS THE ONLY KAGA GAME LIKE THAT
It's also the most popular Kaga game in Japan and was their favourite game for decades. Curious!
Outsold by FE3
Only loved by NTRgays
Literally a loud minority case
>Outsold by FE3
A game selling more doesn't mean people enjoyed it or look back on it fondly.
You can buy a game and then dislike it.
FE3 was also released in the prime of the SNES whereas Genealogy came out post N64.
>A game selling more doesn't mean people enjoyed it or look back on it fondly.
This but with Engage
>You can buy a game and then dislike it.
This but with 3H
>FE3 was also released in the prime of the SNES whereas Genealogy came out post N64.
This but with Engage releasing after PS5/XboneX/Steamdeck and constant Switch 2 rumors + perfect day 1 emulation
>This but with 3H
Why did Engage lose the popularity poll to it then? Why does it get less fanworks than 3H to this day? If Engage is loved why does it have no fanbase?
>This but with Engage releasing after PS5/XboneX/Steamdeck and constant Switch 2 rumors + perfect day 1 emulation
So not the same thing at all then?
>game with a 4 million userbase has more votes than the game with a 1 million userbase
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>So not the same thing at all then?
Exactly the same thing. No one even bought the N64, so who cares if FE4 released after the N64 had come out?
Nintendo is still making bank off of FE Heroes so popularity among users matters as far as the future of the series is concerned.
I wonder if they’ll ever shut down Heroes one day
Heroes despite being Nintendo’s most popular Gacha is actively dying and making way less every year. While losing people is normal for a game FEH is losing it in greater numbers than Normal. It can’t even hope to compete with other games given that the best banner this year couldn’t top the top 10 in any region. While popularity with the games is important I doubt that even if Engage outsold houses it would do much to revitalize the game. It doesn’t help that newer Gacha games just make FEH look bad since they have actual products values and don’t seem cheap which FEH looks like.
FEH will probably not die because it runs on like a 2 dollar budget. The most intensive thing about it is developing units which take like 6 months but that is the same for most Gachas and IS isn’t even good at balancing units since they want to have as much power creep to then sell you the solution.
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
But your point is that secretly everybody hated Three Houses? If that's true why are they voting for it?
>Exactly the same thing.
There is no Switch 2 though so it's not lmao. The Switch is still Nintendo's newest system. They're releasing new fricking bing bing wahoo titles for it. The Switch userbase has tripled since Three Houses came out. There is no excuse, it's not a dead system.
Your point was that everyone secretly hated FE3 though
Also, people have moved on to next generation consoles. Shitloads of new switch games are flopping hard despite the install base being so huge now. XB3 sales absolutely halted and sold less than XB2, the one game that received shitloads of hate. The new danganronpa game is dead on arrival because it's a switch exclusive, advance wars sold less than the original GBA game oooof, engage sold like shit as we all know it, 3 copes sales were extremely low for a game that is a sequel to the most beloved FE game. It will just keeps on happening
>Your point was that everyone secretly hated FE3 though
They do, which is why it does shit in popularity polls.
You're the one who tried to apply that to Three Houses, the game that is still beating every other game in the franchise in popularity polls.
You kneejerk went with a "no u" not realising it doesn't apply at all.
XB3 did worse because XB2 made Xenoblade the titty JRPG series and 3 didn't have a Pyra tier design.
Advance Wars Remake has a terrible visual style.
3 Hopes was a fricking musou and still had better fanbase retention than BotW to Age of Calamity.
>Everybody bought Three Houses but then hated it and it's only the most popular FE game because people bought it and liked it.
you're rambling like a schizophrenic. you can't even keep your argument straight.
are you seriously trying to argue that engage is more popular than three houses?
Vestaria has a lot of the Geneology DNA aside from the eugenics. The maps basically play like smaller, more well-through out maps but with FE4 style narratives integrated into them.
Then he immediately regret it afterwards and graced us with the kino that is Thracia 776 before making a whole new franchise that borrows nothing from FE4
TRPG =/= RPG
Next you're going to tell me that Dark Souls, Dragon Quest 4 and Fallout 1 are the same game
But Fallout 1 and Dark Souls both have an insane amount of worldbuilding. Dragon Quest 4 has a lot too. You're not really proving your point, writing matters to all types of RPGs.
So do visual novels, what's your fricking point? Are visual novels now RPGs too?
Are you that desperate to call DS1 and Fallout 1 the same game just because they have a bunch of text on it?
>Fates Shitter thinks his opinion matters
why Jugtrannies doesn't like thracia ?
FE 3H = FF XV
FE Engage = FF XVI
Don't insult my boy Clive like that
Clive is just a Dollar Store Sommie.
Shut your prostitute mouth gaylear gay, go cry on how your sister stole your rings meanwhile you were picking your nose.
Stay smelly dweeb.
>Radiant Dawn copies sold
>146k
>Engage copies sold
>1,61 million as of March 2023, fourth best selling Fire Emblem game of all time
Such flop. It's also going to pass Awakening's numbers, since Nintendo games sell on the long run compared to Sony titles that mostly sell first week
>It's also going to pass Awakening's numbers
It's not. Xeno 3 had a stronger launch than Engage and then fell off massively like Engage. Odds are it never reaches 2 million because of weak legs.
Nintendo put a massive marketing campaign behind Awakening in order to help save the dying 3DS
When I$ adds more Black folk and they/them playable units you will wish FE died in awakening, don't cry when it happens.
Having played the shining force games, ogre games, dragon force, vandal hearts and vanguard bandits I can confirm the only good fire emblem games are tear ring saga and berwick saga. I think people only pretend to like fire emblem games because they're on Nintendo.
I find it funny yet stupid how these threads move so fast, the absolute state of FE fandom
Go check out Vestaria Saga. It's seriously good and has none of the trappings of modern FE.
no avatars and no marriage means your average tendo troon won't buy it let along play it.
That makes it even better. Discussion around the game is of much higher quality.
More like your discussion will be dead because morons only care about le hot waifus xdddd
But enough about Fire Emblem
Nintendo bonus is real
>shining fans
holy shit a unicorn!
Why 3HRT's didn't buy shez game.
>Why 3HRT's didn't buy shez game.
But the sales of Hopes are closer to Engage than Engage is to Three Houses lol
So it sold like 2m?
Why would I want to buy a game that shits on the game I liked? Is what I would say if I didn't blindly buy it like a dumbass. Worst purchase in a long time. Retroactively ruined one of my favorite games of 3 or so years. Lesson learned. Never assume the best.
Oh I get it you are a salty Black person-ude you get what you deserve pozzed scum.
>Why would I want to buy a game that shits on the game I liked?
>game is intentionally written in a way so that no route is objectively better than what happened in houses as to not shit on byleth's role
>people still complain
Engage has BY FAR the best gameplay in the franchise.
Engage was 600k away from Hopes and 2.2 million behind Houses
>3H sold close to half of its sales after the release window
>Engage sales have already completely dried up
Where are the legs?
Dead thanks to bad word of mouth of 3HRT's
People spent six months shitting on it
Here's your FE4 remake, jugbros
I can't wait for Fire Emblem genealogy of the holy war (forma de California)
You know engage is the better thread when it lives rent free in 3housesgays heads.
It doesn't live in that many people's minds according to the popularity polls. Has it even gotten a banner in Heroes?
It's getting a summer banner reveal in exactly one hour. Featuring Ivy and idk.
We're actually getting a swimsuit banner for Engage because the 3H/SS swimsuit banner currently running bombed really hard
Swimsuit Banner is pretty smart since it allows the author to deviate from Pikazo's outfit designs.
>garbage character designs
>horrendous writing
>main character gets ass kissed for being the main character and is boring as frick.
>main character also has the worst design in the game. It looks like some amateur on deviantart designed it
>has to rely on recognizable characters from previous games and cannot stand on its own
>shitty world building
>worst English voice work in the series by far
Engage deserved to fail.
>well it didn't sell well and it didn't win the popularity contest so I can't enjoy it
I feel bad for you guys.
IS deserves to be kyo ani after fatesbortion.
>Please unintelligent (moronic) systems don't send me to the shadow realm were m*le corn is, its not my fault the fans are sick of whiny b***hes and complicated and deep gameplay on their censored dating sim visual novel and they rather have more globalhomosexual pandering and manly Rambo's who solo their games.
>I have replaced you.
I hope the next smash game gets rid of Corrin and Byleth while bringing everyone else back. Even Piranha plant. Alear shouldn't even be a trophy.
I want my Sommie rep.
Meanwhile samurai is still breathing it won't happen.
Why? Byleth and Robin are the only fun FE characters, that actually take from the games in some way. The rest are just boring generic sword fighters that do nothing interesting.
Based let’s have some fun before thread finishes
put them all in a row and shoot through them, use the 2nd bullet if needed
final one is for myself
Corn, Froglet and Lucina.
I can still have lucina if spare chrom
shoot corrin three times
Engage
FE4
FE8
Those are my favorite FEs.
I wish I could like engage that much, and considering fe4 is on there too you must have quite the stomach for tolerating inconvenience.
I just finished that game, great ideas, not always the best execution.
I fricked up, I meant to say FE5. FE4 is fine but flawed. FE5 while janky has a cooler premise and tighter gameplay.
5, 7, and 9 are mine.
For me, it's FE10, even with all the dumb gimmick chapters like 3-P here.
Reminder that Luigi's mansion 3 outsold all your shitty FEggot games on the switch.
Three Houses isn’t even in the Top 25 best-selling Switch games.
>Breath of the Wild has sold 30 million copies.
>Pokemon Sword and Shield have sold 25 million.
>Splatoon 2 has sold over 13 million.
>Luigi's Mansion 3 sold 12 million.
>Fricking Ring Fit Adventure sold 14 million! Where’s Ring Fit Trainer?
My point is that the sales of Three Houses are only impressive in comparison to previous Fire Emblem games.
It outsold God of war no shit it outsold a fe game.
It would be fricking hilarious if Koei just made their own Fire Emblem and left ISIS to continue delivering slop after slop.
Koei wouldn't have made 3H without IS to provide the story. KT were just tech monkeys.
IS didn't do shit lmao, 3H was written by KT gays
>3H was written by KT gays
Nope, they got the note from IS. You honestly think KT had the pitch ready for them?
All they had was the premise given to then, KT was charge to actually do something with it and they did a better job
>and they did a better job
Lmao, the game becomes halfassed because the devs wanted four routes but didn't have the talent to do it.
And then israelitetendo proceeds to sue like they did with Kaga you colossal moron.
>Calls others moron
>Doesn't realize nintendo lost because you can't just copyright mechanics
Jewtendo won later when Kaga went full moron.
But keep going you troglodyte.
Yeah moron AFTER Kaga went full moron and started actually inserting copyrighted material he didn't own, he won the case that actually matter. You know. The very point that you can't just sue someone for making a knockoff version of a game they previously worked at a company they used to belong to. You know? The case that basically said its okay to make knock off games as long as they aren't explicitly ripping them off wholesale?
I mean Kaga was being moronic and trying to reuse FE characters in his spinoff.
Also Nintendo lost the case.
KT should just make their own series, let Unintelligent Systems go bankrupt, it’s not like Nintendo will save them, look what happened to AlphaDream
Sadly kusoei will be more busy dicksucking blackrock for those sweet EGS bucks.
Yeah, Three House combat may be lame as frick but I still remember the characters and the story. That said, I really should beat Engage. I dropped it after the first chapter
Engage sold over a million.
There are FEs that didn't even sell a quarter of that.
Yep and thanks to engayge the next game might even sell like shit because it destroyed the people's faith in the franchise.
>the franchise will turn into a persona-esque since 3H made a shit ton of money
but i guess i shouldn’t complain about that since i started with fates
>the 3Hrts will frick off and leave FE alone
THANK YOU SOMMIE
>engage kills edelgard threads
>and kills the 3h fanbase
b-based?
>316 posts
>67 posters
holy shit this game really lives rent free in your head
Yeah I want a FE ripoff by the people who killed Ninja Gaiden and DoA to not count the pronoun bullshit from Wo Long.
It's time we dropped the facade and admitted that 3H was the best thing to happen to the franchise.
I await a written apology from Nintendo followed by an announcement for a sequel/spiritual successor to 3H.
>a sequel/spiritual successor to 3H.
You got 3 Hopes.
>3HRT's but with komuro's writing
Maybe this god forsaken franchise will die, I$ never learns their lesson
Fates especially conquest fricking suck how high are you homosexuals I haven't played engage yet though I want to buy but it can't be worse than 3h which itself wasn't that bad I just wish you could skip the 5 or so chapters till the time skip since they're all basically the same
Holy fricking mental illness
Get a fricking job you basement dwellers
>thread that hypes up engage
>thread that shits on engage
i don't get it Ganker, which side do i pick
I'm playing through Engage now and I hate it so much. I had heard that the maps were at least good, but they seem to just dump a ton of enemies into each map to create the difficulty instead of designing it well.
pretty much
How hard you will laugh when Pikmin 4 outsells engage.
Isn't it and HD already on track to do gangbusters?
i can't believe I get tricked into buying Engage.
Nintendo fans keep calling Horizon a "forced franchise" but FE feels extremely forced too.
>30 year old franchise
>forced
what did she mean by this
It's not a franchise they played on the N64/Gamecube when they were kids.
Its quite sad and hilarious how even your god Sakurai doesn't care about the plot on videogames.
>Its quite sad and hilarious how even your god Sakurai doesn't care about the plot on videogames.
Sakurai has said in an interview before that his favourite Fire Emblem game is Genealogy of the Holy War which is the one most famous for its plot.
More like famous for ripping off DQ5
And with that FEH banner, IS just confirmed that Engage was indeed a flop.
>It's the most tolerable Engay waifu
>Her outfit redone to remove all the Pikazo-isms
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
?
Her outfit is still covered in roses in Heroes just like Engage, and she has a hat that is a very clear reference to her regular face grill shit.
Legitimately grasping at straws here.
>no stupid arm spikes
>no stupid face grill
Roses on dresses have been done to death and are a popular design.
Least intolerable waifu-gays. We're eating good today!
Both the face grill and arm spikes are referenced in her swimsuit, so I really don't see your point.
Obviously the swimsuit isn't going to be her exact outfit, otherwise it wouldn't be a swimsuit. Even characters who have "canon" swimsuits like Cordelia and Tharja have altered versions of them in Heroes.
>Hat brim and a bracelet
Now that grasping
>hat brim that produces the same effect as her regular face grill, and that also slightly covers her face, is grasping
alright
It's a hat brim not a face bbg grill. They had to replace the Pikazo-ism with something more tolerable. If they were true to the Pikazo design she'd look like summer shish kebab on a bbq grill and it'd still be an improvement.
I legitimately don't understand if you're actually this moronic or just pretending.
The hat brim is clearly a reference to her usual stupid face grill, anyone could tell you that.
Do you also believe they hate Chinatsu because this version of Doorthea has a different hat that is very clearly a reference to her original but not exactly the same?
A hat brim is not a face grill. Pikazo did not draw Ivy with a hat. A bracelet is not an arm spike. Pikazo did not draw Ivy with just a bracelet
>>Her outfit redone to remove all the Pikazo-isms
this kek
they're dropping that b***h so hard
But they will hire someone worse than Shitnatsu
Your game dumb Black person?
>Engaygies thought they were getting a banner
>it's one unit
lol
IS rightfully has no faith in this shit game
it's over
Trooneda really wants you to love that b***h Fjorm
>sales thread
>ABLOO ABLOOBLOO BUHH BAH BUHH DAAAAA DUUU DAAAAAAA
>Pikazo-ism
Shut the frick up moronic homosexual.
The Donnel Bucket made it into the design. Ivy's Pikazo-isms did not.
Donnel is the most fun trainee in the entire series and it's not even close.
Of all the critique people levy towards Engage. I'll never understand people who shit on the game's visuals.
It's easily the most beautiful Fire Emblem has been to date.
I'd rather have bad graphics with an artstyle that fits FE than good graphics with a shit artstyle that's trying to copy Xeno 2 and Genshin
Modding might be able to save this game by replacing all the ugly character models.
Too bad you will get troons because the modders are alphabet mentally ill people.
No anon everything must be gritty and serious for my fragile ego, FE is a serious dating sim franchise.
Get your eyes checked, it still looks like a Chinese knockoff.
and 3HRT's looks like garbage low budget musouslop
The central conflict of Three Houses boiled down to "The church....IS BAD!!!" and it still managed to have more depth and intrigue than whatever the frick Engage's story was.
More like mole people with technology are le bad
moronic shitposter.
Engage had a story in the technical sense, it was clearly secondary and a 'paint by numbers' kind of thing going on.
I think engage nailed the gameplay, giving you more than enough units and fun tools to go crazy with.
Three houses had a neat world and tried to explore corruption in power. I think the world of three houses feels so much more believable over engage, but engage is clearly meant to celebrate the world of Fire Emblem and not push new ground.
>but engage is clearly meant to celebrate the world of Fire Emblem and not push new ground.
We already did that with Awakening and FEH. Engage is a pointless game. Fire Emblem is becoming an ouroboros where instead of making new settings like Fodlan it makes half baked settings and references itself.
I do agree with that sentiment. I think Engage is very fun, it has more than a few good maps, several neat gimmicks, and the power spikes are very satisfying when your unit pops off or goes from a bad situation into a manageable one.
I do wish we just got a new world though, with interesting characters and an attempt at an actual story. I have hopes we'll see it done, if not from Fire Emblem I'm sure some series will fill that fantasy world turn based tactics niche.
Tangentially, I hope fire emblem does something similar to Valkyria Chronicles or Diofield Chronicle. I think it would work really well, even if it was just a spin off like Three hopes.
10 years is long enough for an anniversary, but I don't think people appreciated all the camp that went into Engage while Awakening actually tried to have a plot that stood on its own taking place in the future Archanea. Most of Awakening's references to older games comes in the form of spotpass characters and not something clumsily tacked onto the story.
Awakening actually tried to have a plot that stood on its own
>I an le marth
>DO YOU REMEMBER VALENTIA WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY BUTCHER THE CANON AND ERASE DUMA FROM HISTORY
>DO YOU REMEMBER TIKI
>DO YOU REMEMBER THE DREADLORDS FROM JUGDRAL
>DO YOU REMEMBER IKE
It was barely any different, and all the weapons and spot pass stuff arguably made it worse than Engage considering that the Emblem rings barely even talk at all in the main story.
>Reference to MC that turned out to be her own character and became extremely popular due to her story and design
>Gaiden's ending implied the nation would eventually go down the path of ruin
>Tiki should still be alive since she's a dragon
>Dreadlords exist in multiple entries
>Easter egg spotpass character
Spotpass characters are all optional.
>D-d-d-doesnt count!!!!!!
All of it counts when that was what they wanted with a potential last entry, your cope over Valentia isn't even related to what I even brought up about Duma either you moron.
It can still borrow elements without literally making past MC stands. It's in the same setting so all those inclusions make sense. You're the one malding and coping here. https://youtu.be/cZsYkVQxfEU?t=215
Duma died 2000 years ago as a mad god. He would be forgotten especially when the people now have Tiki
The reason Awakening didn't get panned for the "do you 'member?" shit was
>most Awakening fans started with that game so it went over all their heads
>even the oldgays at the time hadn't played a lot of those older games yet. a lot of people didn't touch Geneology until the Project Naga translation came out.
IS needs to learn that Awakening was 10 years ago and it’s time to move on.
Nah the awakening characters are still too popular. The setting will be used again probably.
Seeing how Idiot systems is still trying to push Fjormb***h on the mobile cancer you are better on not having any semblance of faith on them because they will never learn their lessons those morons.
>B… B… BUT 3H
Like clockwork.
I WUV THIS DWAGON SO MUCH!!!
Fem Alear is really cute.
when will 3hrt gays give up?
I guarantee you time won't be kind to you and this dogshit franchise.
cope
>franchise
The disguise comes off and the anti-Engage is really just an anti-FE shitposter. Probably a Smashie.
Is there a videogame equivalent of a someone who victimizers herself for attention like the weirdos on twitter?
When your franchise gets more pozzed you will remember my words, c**t.
I still think the Tellius games handled stuff between battles best. A quick menu that gets you to the characters that need to talk. Bonus experience you can earn from performing well in chapters you can use help characters catch up or roid others out without grinding but not overpowered. If the animations of battle weren't so slow, I'd say Tellius at the very least respects your time enough to not waste it with needless set dressing. Just gets us right to the battle.
I like all the mainline FE games and had fun with all of them
Cutesythea
I only got engage because I found it for 20 bucks
Still haven't played doe
Where at? I might buy it for that price.
how can 3h even compete?
I like Engage and gameplay is king but that still doesn't mean it can carry EVERYTHING ELSE by itself.
I thought Engage was outsourced to the team that makes the Atelier games so basically Tecmo again.