Its the same exact hot garbage as before, literally nothing changed. How are people saying this is a good game?
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Its the same exact hot garbage as before, literally nothing changed. How are people saying this is a good game?
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paid shills are not people
Sounds like a skill issue.
Only those streamers using drops but even then they don't have ot but still choose to
Because people would use other player's levels for an excuse to hate on them. Whether smurf or no-lifer.
True, ignore the morons wanting 6v6 and double tank. They're the same idiots complaining constantly on the forums.
fbpb, shilling ass doesn't make the game good
fippy bippy
Why did they remove the best maps and why did they remove portraits
It is better, you moronic Black person. The hero reworks are good and making it 5v5 instead of 6v6 makes it already significantly better by toning down the amount of blobfesting.
>remove best maps
lol they are garbage, but they are also still in customs
>remove portraits
What?
King of the hill maps are the worst. Frick Ilios. Also I meant those nice sparkly portraits you got for playing the game a lot
They removed them because it "encouraged toxicivity". For example if a gold border was still in silver rank or something they would make fun of them. It's a fricking shame, I was so close to hitting silver border too. Now what's front and center is your battle pass level, since that's way more important I guess.
>if a gold border was still in silver rank or something they would make fun of them
deserved
Oh yeah I didn't even notice that all of the shitty maps are gone. Good riddance to nightmares like Paris and Temple of Anubis.
>2cp garbage like Anubis are gone
>"Best maps"
After a certain point contrarianism just goes full moron.
why do people hate on 2cp maps...i loved anubis
Pretty much all 2CP maps were very poorly balanced. The first points were always relatively easy to attack and take control of, but then the 2nd point was nearly impossible. Let's take Anubis as an example, because you mentioned it. On the 2nd point it's literally impossible to have any kind of element of surprise because one defender can easily spot out every single strat coming from the opposite team and call it out 30 seconds in advance.
This is also not even going into how the last points on 2CP maps can usually be defended by absolutely moronic shit like just having 1 person on the point while the rest of the team continues to pour in because they respawn right behind the point, however if 1 offensive person dies it takes 1 minute to get back.
They are just extremely poorly designed maps that were completely unfun to play for either side really.
i member i used to play torb and just turret it up...only ever dying to multiple winstons bumrushing the point...they just don't make ranked like they use to
>2 points to win
>1 point is easy for attackers, who have flank routes, attacking advantage, surprise factor and retain their progress in captures
>>this is fine
>1 point is easy for defenders, who can run the game into overtime since the you need to clear the point for 5 seconds at the end to win
>>this is poorly balanced
Again, LARPing as a competitive player doesn't make you one. It wasn't an issue for Diamond and below (aka 97% of the playerbase), and even in Masters, it was only a chore if the defenders wanted to tryhard and scumcomp (aka stall it out as Mei etc)
>it's literally impossible to have any kind of element of surprise because one defender can easily spot out every single strat coming from the opposite team and call it out 30 seconds in advance.
And that's what the tank ults are for. You don't 'call out' a Dva ult launched at point or a Rein that's charged mid and stunned the entire team, you clear point then deal with the enemy team that are now there.
>jumping up to that outcrop above the point and getting a turret down just out of LoS
comfy
The only real issue with 2cp was defense spawns too close to the point.
And this could have been easily fixed by stretching out the hallways of their spawn a bit, but I guess removing the entirely is ok too.
>This is a problem at its core for the game
>instead of removing it entirely and addressing the problem, hastily reinvent the format and pretend it solves the issue.
yup that sounds like Overwatch to me.
Also Sigma's identity literally is not BIG BLUE BARRIER TANK, he quite literally has one because Reinhardt's effect on the game demands he has one, same reason why Orisa had one.
And that was removed just fine.
But no lets just slap some bandaids around and pretend these wont lead into bigger issues.
You're moronic. Shields are fine for the game, double shield is not. Turning Rein and Sigma into Orisa 2.0 just to keep 6v6 is not fixing the game.
Also, in 5v5, dps has WAYYYY more impact than they ever did in 6v6. People who say otherwise are literal shitters at the game. It was almost impossible for a single dps to 1v6 when you have two tanks rotating their defenses. Now with one tank, killing the tank opens that 1v5 potential up.
>LARPing as a competitive player doesn't make you one
I was literally top500 several seasons and constantly played with/against multiple pros like TwoEasy, Stermy, HAL, ShadowBurn, Mendokusaii, Realzx, Kryw, iddqd, Linkzr, Sypeh, Tviq, and so on. You are a moron and you are wrong.
sure you were anon
Here you go, just a few scoreboards from a couple of the first screens in my OW folder.
>masters
>soldier
I had a friend that reached masters with sym. How are you guys able to reach such a high ELO with trash characters is beyond me.
t.hardstuck diamond
>masters
It's GM and top 500, but Soldier was very good back then in season 1 through 3. Good damage if you had good aim, plus self-heal and sprint allowed you to do some funny stuff with positioning that other DPS really couldn't.
2CP is a casuality of the game desperately chasing Esport relevance, as all the pros hated 2CP.
There is nothing wrong with 2CP from a casual standpoint.
>every reply crying about 2cp
Yeah man why the frick did they remove Numbani and Blizzard World?
So stupid that they want to pull this seasonal rotation bullshit. Just have all the maps available or let people vote on the next map.
I swear to god if I have to play another stallfest map like Eichenwalde again because they insist on only having 4 maps active per mode I'm going to lose it.
>2CP garbo
>best maps
by this point the OW threads on Ganker are full of people that either never played the game or schizos spreading misinfo for the newbies, everyone already left for greener pastures and it's survivor syndrome taking root
2cp maps were awful, what? Even when the og game launched in 2016, I dreaded matching into 2cp maps because they were the least fun.
Removing portraits was so dumb, I don't know what the logic in that was. It would be like taking away prestiging in Call of Duty games.
>removing portraits
>removing cards
>removing endorsing enemies
But at least you get to look at your battle pass progress, consumer
all the people talking about 2cp but i bet you're talking about the moronic map rotation system they got
Game?
JQ is built to breed Mercy (me)
More?
only good post itt
Nobody says that except for shills.
it was truly a dumb move to call it "overwatch 2" for (among other reasons) resetting the game's score on metacritic
>last thread archives
>immediately makes a new one
for what purpose.
Black person rape toys
The removal of shields and 2 players made OW bearable again.
No, what makes OW such hot garbage is the sheer amount of auto aim characters like moira, winston, etc. All so moronic normies who cant aim can feel good about themselves.
>Genji shitter
just get good at positioning you aim monkey, this isn't CSGO
for me, it's removing most-all of the garbage 2cp maps and most of the stuns/CC.
>most of the stuns
I don't give a shit about balance. Removing things like Cree flashbang, Mei freeze, Doomfist uppercut etc. is soulless as frick. Those are character defining abilities.
>McCree is supposed to be an aim intensive hero
>stun+right click kills 80% of the cast with zero aim needed
Mei freeze I didnt' care about too much (she can still freeze in ult), and Doomfist uppercut, while cool, was way too inconsistent when you uppercut an enemy and the enemy hits a roof then you lose them.
>E
NOW HOLD ON
>RMB
>Shift
>RMB
hehe
I agree but my opinion is they should've gotten rid of ALL moba CC because this game is still a first person moba where you can't accomplish anything alone. Instead of making tanks tankier which was the problem that originally killed the game they should've turned tanks into DPS characters so we just have 4 DPS 2 Support DPS and an actual literal fricking FPS game.
It's still just a fricking MOBA teamfight larping as an FPS
>Doomfist uppercut
one of the saddest parts of the doomfist rework to me second only to his now piss poor damage
his slam into uppercut combo was his bread and butter and now its gone
All his moves flowed together nicely and now his slam is a winston leap and his power block is a shitty sigma absorb
I sincerely hope that dps doomfist comes back
he's not coming back bro. He can dish out nice amounts of damage but you're very reliant on your tun + headshots to kill squishies, And yes power block is a piece of shit ability and his ult is the worst in the game, straight up. He needs more survivability and a buff to power block, or maybe give him back is slow on E.
maybe you just don't like OW2. CC was garbage and I actually think 2 feels way better to play. Push might be the worst part, most games are decided in the first teamfight.
Only time will tell if OW is kill
cringefist was godawful and his kit had near zero outplay except being near a wall so you could LOS him entirely. his E drew you in (had a slight pull), his punch had an absurdly long range and the insta-kill on the wall was buggy as frick. his cooldowns were so low that you could barely punish him for missing all his abilities on you (remember no counter play). and, on top of all that, he got actively rewarded for landing his abilities with a really strong overshield.
just ridiculous. glad he was gutted.
Kiriko’s flat ass is made up for with he FAT TIGHT PUSSY
character on the left has got to be the most bland piece of generic bullshit ive ever seen. how do you even design a character like that, when its so lacking in everything you cant even describe it.
Sojourn is perfectly fine. Not every character needs a fricking themepark gimmick.
Disagree. It's way better when heroes are distinct feeling. Compare League to Dota. In League most characters just feel bland, some mix of mobility, skillshots and nukes whereas Dota has many unique characters with highly unique kits and playstyles and is so much better for it. OW already has plenty of lame dps characters for people with no imagination. Would have preferred something with more unique and memorable mechanics like Mei or Wrecking Ball.
I was talking about the character design. The gameplay is okay too. A bit bland and basic, but she's still fun. I think she fills Soldier 76's niche of basic soldier character with auto rifle, strong attack and extra mobility, while not being janky garbage design like 76.
sojourn is literally one of the funnest characters in the game to play. 76 feels so incredibly basic and boring by comparison now. she's just a better 76.
a character should be more than person in a jacket when the rest of your cast is super heroes
>everything needs to have capeshit overdesign latched onto them
She's cyberpunk and that's enough. It's a major step in right direction.
Another great example of what OW2 did right is Moira's redesign. She's basically a bit Bondrewd now instead a literal wizard. Or Ashe, her being a somewhat believable biker rather than just a cowboy larper. Grounds the designs, makes them more relatable and immersive.
needs to have capeshit overdesign latched onto them
No but it needs to be interesting. Soujourn is just a generic grey blob of focus testing. a literal nothing design, you cant say anything about it because there is nothing to talk about.
>generic grey blob of focus testing
She's just as much that as Tracer, Widowmaker, Mei, Genji, Birgitte and Soldier 76.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT DAVID BOWIE EEEEEEEEEEEEEE Black person MAN SAVE MEE
soujorn is fricking broken you moron shes not fine
>t. homosexual who got filtered
Railgun go Boom, b***h
is she supposed to be a ninja shrine maiden?
Overwatch won. Ganker lost. Simple as.
Flavor of the month shit. Give it a couple of weeks and people realize its exactly the same game and theyll grow bored of it again
it sounds more like they keep taking L after L. Maybe if they play all their cards right Overwatch 2 will become less horrible
Wait I thought nerfing Tracer's ass in the first game was empowering or whatever?
I feel like maybe more people are toxic in OW2 vs OW1
The scoreboard has had the opposite outcome to its intention to reduce toxicity kek
Its honestly really bad, a simple ggez is annoying but w/e but you get people going
>HAHAHAHAHA
after they win, or spamming NI99ER in chat to bypass filters and I play this game super casually.
I'm kind of amazed Paladins has a more welcoming community than OW does.
Its even more unbalanced than OW1 which is quite the triumph.
All I know is Zarya is fricking broken right now
>tons of new players
>all seemingly drawn to shoot the bubble as much as humanly possible
>zarya can literally just 1v5 entire teams because of it
ENOUGH
>increased health
>increased shields
>increased bubble duration
She was already great in OW so it's just nuts they did this
I somehow just ranked bronze 2 support despite highest heals/assists every game. I'm not great but I'm pretty sure I was diamond on ov1. Checking the stats says I've only won 2 comp games which isn't even possible since I had just finished winning 7 to rank.
They should give her fangs
fine I will put your feet in my mouth
happy?
there was *supposed* to be a big PVE campaign which they've been showing off since the blizzcon this was announced
I believe every character had a story and their own talent tree that actually did stuff and wasn't just flat damage buffs or whatever
and now since it isn't ready and they put out yet another "patch as we go" trash game they're probably thinking
>make 3 repeatable missions
>for 3 FTP characters
>sell it as part of the premium battlepass
>only have to update it once every 6 months or so with more throwaway content
First game was fun and so is this, no matter how bad the monetization is, the game is just THAT good but Ganker will just cope and seethe
-1 player -1 tank.
>How are people saying this is a good game?
You're surrounded by Black personcattle, not people. Should've figured that out by now. Dare I say, most of them are possessed.
They wanted you in concentration camps, if not downright executed, for refusing to inject yourself with a gene editing pharmaceutical product that failed all its animal trials and was never tried on humans before release, for which the companies that produced it as well as the governments that peddled it are literally not liable in any shape or form, for a flu virus with a 99.997% survivability rate. They called you a nazi, a conspiracy theorist, a "science denier" and a murderer while they themselves are on their way to a F I F T H F U C K I N G D O S E.
And you still call them "people".
And you're still buffled by their choices.
>tfw actually had to think for a while if this was genuine or not
Friendly reminder that .003% of 7 billion is still 21 million
Friendly reminder literally the only ones still NOT admitting all the numbers were faked to coerce you Black personcattle into getting the mRNA/adenovirus poison, are just you Black personcattle yourselves.
I'm just using the numbers you posted anon. Simple math.
6.57 million deaths according to their fake stats is like a third of 21 million
SINCE
DECEMBER
2019
Simple math
now go ahead and tell me how many dead we'd have without the mRNA mutagen like your programming demands you always do
Check this link out and weep as your worldview is shaken
ur a gayet lmfao ligma
oh my science this does not conform to the ideals of the masses!
>videogame discussion turns into /misc/Black person drivel again. I want 2016 tourists to go and stay go.
Yes. Gotta boost and consoom like a good goy
You are vaccinated for measles, rubella and meningitis
true, and i've never had measles, rubella, or meningitis. plenty of people i personally know took the vax and then got covid immediately after though lol
Those vaccines actually work.
I need healing
What is the motivation behind hiding a player's ranking for extended periods of time?
Undoubtedly some algorithm fed dopamine vacuum that gets the weak minded addicted
Because blizzard realized that having a tiered rank that you move up through is miles better than watching a number go up but mostly down because you got a leaver/thrower
it's addictive
I procrastinated on studying for my midterms because I was only 4 games away from a rank update
>only 4 games away from a rank update
And then it just stays the same despite a positive record.
Was it worth it?
>I procrastinated on studying for my midterms
Not surprised to see students here
All I'll say whatever you do, don't miss on your studies
I'm learning this the hard way
No, it's definitely worse than the garbage we had before.
>CC nerfed
>Double tank autism gone
>DPS queue times more reasonable now that Tank is in higher demand
>Shitty maps filtered
How can so many people parrot this moronic opinion?
CC nerfs actually made McCree into a hot turd. Not good across the board
>made McCree into a hot turd
Good. That homosexual has been a top 5 DPS for the actual entire 6 years of Overwatch 1. Let him finally suck dick for once.
>>CC nerfed
Supports are even more vulnerable now, even fewer people want to play them. Queue times are 10 times longer for non support.
tank autism gone
The good tanks are now unstoppable juggernauts with higher DPS potential than actual DPS. Picking bad tanks is basically throwing the game. They should have created an off-tank role queue, not remove one tank.
>>DPS queue times more reasonable now that Tank is in higher demand
Queue times are still bottlenecked by supports, nothing changed. They're bragging about having 20 million players while im waiting 15 minutes for a game.
maps filtered
Push maps are worse and way more bland than 2CP.
>Supports are even more vulnerable now
Now they have to do something besides healbot.
>The good tanks are now unstoppable juggernauts with higher DPS potential than actual DPS. Picking bad tanks is basically throwing the game. They should have created an off-tank role queue, not remove one tank.
Still incredibly better than an variant of double tank existing. All you have to do is ignore the tank and kill supports if you're going against something like Orisa for example.
>Queue times are still bottlenecked by supports, nothing changed. They're bragging about having 20 million players while im waiting 15 minutes for a game.
Nah, even though it isn't ideal DPS queue times have severely decreased. Tank queues are the ones who are kind of fricked.
>Push maps are worse and way more bland than 2CP.
Push maps are not great, but still WAY better than 2CP bullshit. I do wonder if 2CP would actually be decent with 5v5 since there are less tanks to stall forever. I also do miss Hanamura.
>Now they have to do something besides healbot.
They don't have the toolkit for that. They were designed to die unless they're behind a shield, and now the shields are gone.
>They don't have the toolkit for that
They all have self-regen now. And there's also sleep dart, purple nade, lucio boop, zen boop+discord, immortality field+self heal shit that bap has, etc.. on top of all that you have a 2nd healer than can just keep you up.
All of that stuff helps in theory against Genji and Sombra (if you're good), and not against Widow or McCree. In practice it's just not good enough overall, and the numbers show that.
>bronze 5 ranked console queue times in the middle east at 3am
Show me queue times again in a week when Kiriko is available in rank. Only thing support needs is more heroes.
>Show me queue times again in a week
Like all the other recent F2P disasters, the player count will shrink to less than 10% of the peak. Kiriko can't compensate for that.
And everyone is in Bronze right now because they also had to frick up the ranking. It will be even worse once they fix that.
Player count decreasing isn't a huge issue with queue times. The ratio of the queue is more important. Kiriko existing in quickplay already greatly reduces the queue times there. Support hasn't had a new hero in a long fricking time. Tired of the same heroes. Adding more heroes will mitigate a lot, but of course support will always have the smallest queue times.
You can outsnipe Widow as Zen. I agree hitscan is too strong without shields now though. But that's more due to the shit map design with little cover.
>OW1 introduces role queueing
>I main Soldier 76 and it takes too long to get a game as an assault character
>decided to swap to tank and become a Sigma chad
>end up getting ever better at Sigma than I ever was at Soldier 76
>OW2 comes out
>now I can't play Sigma either
Can't they just fricking fix this shit somehow. Jesus christ. I don't enjoy healing and I'm not going to be one of those homosexuals who picks Lucio and tries to play him as a DPS character.
Play Zen and use him as a DPS character.
I thought Sigma was good? Maybe not that good compared to other tanks but still decent
Just play Moira and delete everything with ease while healing as well
the idea of hard roles in an FPS is shit design, if blizzard hasn't realized this now, they'll likely never change it. People have their favorite characters and just want to play them ranked or unranked, but blizzard has always been a company that favored "balance" over fun, and this was well before acti-blizz or even Broodwars E-sports.
>I need to be able to chain CC enemy teams for 10 seconds, this is fun
>I want every match devolve into a shitty blob stalemate until ults are ready and get spammed
>I want to jerk my ePeen so I refuse to play unranked or healers
I'm saying supports are too vulnerable and you're basedjack quoting me that I don't want to play supports. You're not too bright, are you?
>I'm saying supports are too vulnerable
Get a mic.
1 tank only ruined certain characters, like D.Va. She was always like a somewhat more tanky, more mobile dps, not an actual tank. You could play her more freely as flanker and whatnot, now you are forced to babysit your team or theyll get slaughtered.
>Double tank autism gone
This right here is the moron normie take. Anyone who likes this change didn't play very much of the base game. Its fine NOW.
But what happens when we get another tank that was as absurdly powerful as Sigma on his release, as strong as Brigitte on her release?
The Single tank Q goes from being viewed as Tank Queue, and solely becomes a Queue dedicated to that hero, not picking that hero will lose you the game, being on a team with someone who didn't pick that hero, or didn't grind the battlepass to GET that hero, loses you the game. This is how OW2 will die, and its pretty inevitable given their track record of how badly OW1 was balanced.
They have to be REALLY on top of tank balance forever now, something they've never successfully managed to do.
Its such a glaring design flaw I'm surpirsed whoever suggested a 1 tank game wasn't laughed out of the office. Just enjoy trying to convince yourself OW2 is an improvement when you get a streak of Throwhogs vs God Tier Omni-Meta Tank when they inevitably get released and kill the game.
I'm pretty sure everybody knows at this point the only reason they dropped a tank is they were too moronic to "fix" the meta any other way.
Also I love D.Va.
The meta WAS fixed in OW1, but it was boring as shit to play. You're literally shooting at shields half the time and just coordinating your ults to team wipe. Rinse and repeat.
They stripped out all the anti-fun meta shit you had to do to win in OW1 by removing shields and CC. And by slowing down ult generation.
There is no real reason they couldn't have kept 6v6 but removed shields and stuns.
The only reason they didn't was because it would require too much of a rework to too many tanks, and OW2 is a low budget project thrown together last second to make a profit.
>but removed shields and stuns
I take it you didn't play OW1 in its last days. Double shield was meta, especially on defense. No amount of balance changes could have fixed Rein/Sigma.
I mean they could have removed their barriers entirely, which I literally just said they should have.
Wonder if it was a marketing problem with Reinhardt being too popular to have his shield removed like that shit we went through with Mercy rez
>removed barriers entirely
>literally removing the core identity of rein and sigma
No. If you do that, then zarya and other tanks will reign supreme. There was literally no way to fix the shield problem AND keep two tanks.
of course they didnt play overwatch 1 in the end. i doubt they even play overwatch 2. they sit around in threads pretending to know about games. dont be surprised if they have a reaction image folder
Everytime the OW cried at the imbalance wolf it was a nothingburger, every single time. Except for GOATS that one was actually broken and easy enough to pull even for queue shitters
I mean GOATS isn't even the first time GOATs happened, Season 3 was dominated by Quad Tank lineups of Rein D.Va Hog Zarya and was piss easy to do.
The game was never really balanced, and every decision they made ususally only made things worse in the long run.
>No we NEED to keep one hero the EXACT SAME because they're too MARKETABLE to change
Yes we did that with the horrendous Mercy Rework where she basically defined the meta of Overwatch for the entire year of 2017 and then some. It wasn't worth it.
Like I get it, its more fun to play right now, and I agree it is.
But if you think its going to last, you're in for a rude awakening. As I said before, enjoy getting mad that your tank went Throwhog or Wreckingfeed vs inevitable busted new hero that warps the game into a format entirely around them.
>Throwhog or Wreckingfeed
They are way more viable as tanks than they ever were in OW1. Hog will literally be meta once Kiriko becomes playable in comp.
That said, the 1v5 potential makes it far more satisfying to play as dps. You can actually hard carry now. This was literally impossible in OW1. You'd never see someone like Edison singlehandedly stomping a GM lobby like this back in OW1:
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>Hog will literally be meta once Kiriko becomes playable in comp
why
Kiriko's cleanse fixes all of hog's weaknesses, specifically antiheal and sleep. Same, to a lesser extent, with ball.
His only weakness pretty much is Ana grenade and JunkerQueen ult making him unable to heal, and Kiriko has a Cleanse effect so she can remove it from him.
What happens when the meta becomes Ana Kiriko and they want a tank that actually does things instead of loses hooks because the clease stops those too
Kiriko will still be the only support that can Cleanse an ally.
Rein, Hamster, JQ etc. can't remove Ana grenade from themselves like Zarya can, so Kiriko will still be really strong.
D.Va prevents it entirely.
But your tank wants to pick Pudge and throw hooks like Dendi and you don't have a 2nd tank to pick Dva. So you pick Kiriko and Purge the debuffs or you lose.
So you're saying that Roadhog, a hero whos been in the trash for a majority of OW's lifespan, is going to be picked over D.Va, a hero who's been at the forefront of the meta ever since her rework in 2016.
Yeah I wouldn't put money down on those odds.
Hog will 100% be a popular ladder pick and a situational pick in pro comp after kiriko becomes playable. In OW2, picks are more important than defensive abilities. The ability for hog to get a fast pick and turn it into a 4v5 will justify having a weaker overall tank, especially if your team is comprised of self-sufficient dps and supports.
>Launch D.Va
>no Micro-Missiles
>Defense Matrix was up for it's full duration and you couldn't just turn it off
>Self Destruct would kill her if she was in range of the blast and took 7-8 seconds to go off
and yet I still played her, why do I love her so much
She had some traits that were understated.
Boosters used to be the highest priority move in the game, no knockback, no slows, fly through anyone hitbox
Likewise old D.VA used to have really strong knockback immunity due to how her slow on fire was coded.
She wasn't as bad as people pretended back then.
>Self Destruct would kill her if she was in range of the blast
I always liked that, my headcanon was that mechas are cheap and weak units. So the Korean army used them in swarms to stop those huge Kaiju robots. They had such enormous losses (even with the ability to near instantly drop replacements by the thousands for the stranded pilots) this became unsustainable in a short time. The pilots rarely survived long enough outside their mechs to call another. Ultimately, in their desperation they weaponized the strongest aspect of the design, the oversized energy core. Since the pilots were already as good as dead if they had to leave the mecha, every unit was set to overload all systems in the event the pilot ejects.
D.va, the veteran superstar of the Korean army is actually one of the thousands of clones they made from the original who died at her tenth mission (the average survival rate is around three missions for pilots). Every time she dies in a battle or loses her mind from the faulty cloning process they replace her in the utmost secrecy.
Damn I wish the game didn't squander all that potential.
Just imagine having the keys to that cloning facility...
kino
Every tank other than hog had some manner of blocking the ana grenade. Rein/Winston/Sigma had shield. Dva could eat it. Hamster and Doomfist can avoid it with their fast movement. Only hog and to a lesser extent, JQ, are always susceptible to antiheal grenade. Kiriko fixes this glaring weakness.
You forgot Orisa.
I can't wait to ask my Kiriko to clean me because I'm dirty and then ask my Ana to feed me because I'm hungry. My ego will inflate like a gross deviantart post
>Yes we did that with the horrendous Mercy Rework where she basically defined the meta of Overwatch for the entire year of 2017 and then some
Quick reminder that this was all because they didn't want group rez for nonsequitor reasons, so instead of just leaving it alone because it was part of her identity and people liked it, they did the one thing literally nobody asked for and turned her into the Moth while still trying to 'retain her identity' of rezzing the entire team... 'but this time with some skill involved' (hint, it wasn't).
The only 'lesson' taught was that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Blizz, in their usual fashion and endless mouthbreathing, meddled with it and fricked everything up - just like Lucio's continual decline in wall riding reworks, just like Brig's introduction to 'counter the meta', just like OW2.
Frick off shill. I refuse to believe an organic genuinely sane human made your post.
Mercy made me want an older woman
t. moronic bronze shitter. please stop talking bout stuff you have no idea about
blizzard cannot balance to save their lives, so they just remove things and morons cheer on them because they cannot see past the honeymoon phase.
Solo tanking is awful, the lone tank has too many responsabilities and needs to tryhard or the match is lost. Having only one tanks forces tank players to know the entire roster well to not fall through the ranks whenever a tank they don't like is meta and it's a balancing nightmare.
now every tank directly competes with eachother and with how blizzard balances it's gonna turn into a mess. And then there's the fact that tanks are outright busted anywhere where you can pick two. Open queue, total mayhem, deathmatch, mystery heroes, they are now completely unfun shit.
meanwhile, all they had to do to fix the game was remove brig stun and rework sigma's shield into something else
This. Overwatch is finally fun again. Games are way more dynamic and you can actually hard carry a game.
>tank balance
Even in its currently unbalanced state, it feels way more balanced and fun than literally any tank meta in OW1. My only real issue with 1 tank is that it feels very rock-paper-scissors sometimes. Like if you're winston and they switch to DVa, you have to switch off winston. This is not that big of a problem with the ult change though. Just means you have to have a bigger pool of tanks.
>>CC nerfed
Now flankunts like Genji literally have no counterplay.
What was that? Timmy had to keep an eye out for slowly scaling, delayed Mei freeze while deleting the entire team with his 120 damage sword swings + free dash resets or while teleporting across the map with his 150 damage shotguns?
Wha was that? The I-Win-Buttons had one minor facet of counterplay that could prevent them from getting braindead free kills, preventing Reapers from just silently warping onto a roof above you and dropping onto a team with a McCree?
Not any more sweetie 🙂
>Double tank autism gone
See
>DPS queue times more reasonable now that Tank is in higher demand
Last time I was in client, DPS was at 7 minutes, Tank at 4 minutes and Support at >1. PC NA, Late Morning.
That's not reasonable, that's horrendous, especially for a game just 'released'.
>Shitty maps filtered
of the maps deleted from the game
>>this is a good thing
Eat shit blizzdrone. Well, you already are.
first time I've seen a shop overhaul +balance patch branded as a whole new game.
Weird how when they announced it they put emphasis on how you'd be able to play with ow1 players, and the selling point would be a coop campaign, so some could atleast call it a dlc as a joke, but it didn't even manage to have that. It's just the same game with a coat of see through paint.
people would complain either way
the only reason i don't filter overwatch is for the sfm lewds that some big dick anons post now and again on this board.
can you at least post some?
>literally nothing changed.
this is how i know you havet not played this game, just shut the frick up
>Ganker
>ever playing videogames
lel
exactly my thoughts. this board is a fricking joke, i get the feeling that people who have never actually played the game are discussing it the most
>i get the feeling that people who have never actually played the game are discussing it the most
That's but a given.
Never thought I'd say this but I genuinely miss the lootboxes. The new microtransaction store sucks and is absurdly expensive.
It is, and it doesn't excite me when the new skins come out because you HAVE to pay for the currency for them, you can't realistically save up via just completing challenges
What's funny is that this is a much more predatory practice with limited time store sales to push people into panic buying and the season passes forcing you to grind the game like a second job but because publishers realize that people won't flip out as much if it's just cosmetics instead of gameplay mechanics
>Black person with brown prosthetics
>Ourtone
>Not Mytone
Most people don't pick up on these subtle language choices but I do. They really want to just keep browns as a collective entity.
Me and probably many others wont really play the game until they give premium battle passes to OW1 players
There is nothing to unlock, I wont grind 5 hours for a fricking voice line or spray
i havent figured out how to carry yet.
mostly DPS player. usually most damage and fewest deaths. Always group and run away when team dies. But winrate is basically 50/50
>can now consistently out-DPS most people as tank
What the frick did they do to this game
you can do more dps than most dps characters as moira.
>Player queues for all roles
>Gets support
>Picks Moira
>Never heals, only dpses
Literally every single game
I agree tanks are too strong. but if they didnt do damage then people could just ignore them. So I say nerf their damage a little but not back to OW1 levels.
That sounds like overwatch one but with extra steps.
>can now consistently out-DPS most people as tank
Except as Doomfist. The former DPS. They're moronic.
Doomfist at least can be an annoying backline harasser but what they've done to him is beyond stupid regardless
>Kiriko heals someone
>”Jacky Taisen”
What did she mean by this
>orisa can 1v5 the enemy team
>junker queen does more damage than DPS
>doomfist is dogshit
>they broke bastion and torbjorn despite torb being unchanged from OW1
>healers are still boring
>push is gay
thanks jizzard
BYE AMORE
I like Push
the game modes are so fricking garbage it hurts
push is horrible and basically just like payload with more walking back to the cart, payload is unchanged, koth is unchanged, 2cp was straight up deleted instead of getting fixed
what a useless, incompetent company
push is good because it rewards good positioning including simple stuff like retreating.
the brainlets and selfish gays that couldnt/refused to coordinate are now happy that they can freely frag without teamwork or multiple barriers getting in the way. to them, this means is a better game. there is a majority of stupid people/casuals out there.
Playing support feels like high ass compared to OW1 unless you're Lucio running around being a fricking nuisance to the enemy or Moira so you can also play DPS.
Why can orisa just fricking push you into a corner with her spin and then fricking sit on you and body block you from leaving either her huge ass hitbox????
I wish Orisa would sit on me with her huge ass hitbox
No one is saying its good, people are just saying its decent and better than OW1. Theres literally no good hero shooters other than TF2 and theres only so kuch you can play a game that doesnt even get updated before you get bored.
paladins could have been good if hirez weren't some of the dumbest motherfrickers in the industry.
Because OW1 was alright and fun at times. OW2 is just more of that. OW 1.5, but I only play Arcade modes; don't care about ranked at all.
it keeps happening
ah, my favourite pastime
nano boosting human beyblades
i miss the speed boost but it's still a riot to watch.
>can't even enjoy Mystery Heroes anymore because whichever team has more Sombras just wins
Mystery heroes has always been a shit mode
all I know is I have a free hero shooter to play and I can finally stop hateplaying Paladins.
[VGTG]
I'm your Huckleberry.
>No sir, you are not
>that feel when was just in a game with someone who bought the shitty detective Sojourn skin
Who is the best healer to play as a noob?
mercy
you will have an awful time as mercy in this game even as a veteran. unless your team has your back 24/7 you get instantly focused and melted. she's so dogshit now.
Lucio or Mercy
I don't understand Lucio at all, then again I only tried him for like 5 minutes.
>I don't understand Lucio at all
so basically you exist
Skate on walls, boop enemies, and be a nuisance. Speedboosting is more important than healing. Get your team in when you guys got a pick, and get your team our quickly when enemies are ulting.
He can wall ride and his secondary offensive skill pushes people away, which is good for making threats frick off ir fly off the map.
He has two modes: Heal and Speed. You can see a circle around you that determines who is benefiting from these effects. You have another skill that greatly increases these effects for a short period.
His ultimate is a massive aoe that provides rapidly degrading shields anyone hit for essentially invulnerability. Good at shutting down basically every ult in the game or pushing objectives.
why would you ever use the speed boost except for maybe after leaving the spawn?
Escaping ults, rapidly regrouping the team
>Engaging
>Escaping
>Regrouping
There are a ton of things
No way you could do this without full stack queue to coordinate this.
Well obviously it would be more effective that way but Lucio's AOE is fricking huge.
Also forgot to mention you can see who is receiving your support with a counter in the middle of the screen, which also shows if you're healing or speed boosting.
Kek proving my point
i swear to god the only people who enjoy this game are bottom of the barrel
come on man, I'm simply a noob. I never played OW1, I don't even recognize all the characters yet let alone know how to play them.
I never played ow either but Lucio its really self explanatory, you dont even have to aim, read homie its not that hard
Every 'competitive' multiplayer game ever.
>now I got 4 wins in a row
My longest streak
All I care about is playing Reaper. Don't need to worry about CC as much, too.
>want Luchador Reaper
>game won't let me buy it
>it's been like this since launch and they haven't even acknowledged it as an issue
Pretty sure that's an OWL skin. You can't actually buy them for some odd reason even though people would
I have the tokens to buy it and the game won't stop immediately telling me "the purchase failed, please try again later"
I don't know, but Junker Queen belongs to my dick.
How's Paladins compared to Overwatch?
If I enjoy hybrid playstyle between tank, DPS and support who would I enjoy in Paladins?
Also, does skill in a team shooter like OW or Paladins translate over to MOBAs like Smite or DOTA?
Paladins is a cheap clone dude, there is no reason now that OW is free to play to play Paladins instead. It's riddled with bugs, disconnects for no reason, no ultrawide monitor support, balance issues especially when they add new characters. Believe me I have over 2000 hours in that game
I figured but I just got done jerking off to Ying so I felt like asking
Also disregard the "Paladins is a cheap clone of Overwatch" bullshit- Kiriko is literally a knockoff of Io from Paladins, blah blah blah. Try it and don't listen to salty OW Black folk, anon. Good luck!
they both steal from each other but Paladins has a distinct cheap feel to it.
Makoa is Roadhog, Fernando is Reinhardt, Soldier is literally Soldier 76, I mean that one is absurd really. Mei is Evie, Dva is Ruckus, Reaper is Androxus, it's blatant really. I don't who did what first but the character similarities are stupid.
Also the battle pass is crazy overpriced and requires daily grinds of at least 2 hours to complete.
>Battle pass for requires daily grinds of at least 2 hours to complete.
For Paladins? Overwatch's can be done in no time at all, so long as you don't worry about weeklies too much.
For Paladins yeah, I have maybe finished 2 of them in the beginning, after which they made them longer and I rarely made it to the last page, and like I said, I've played a shitload of that game.
Both games have BPs that take forever to grind out, so I don't see the problem tbh
the Paladins one is longer, more expensive and all the while you are playing a broken as frick game with absolutely no reason to play ranked if you even manage to find a server within 5 minutes. There's some qts if you care about that, in loose super expensive outfits as well.
Paladins = More rewarding, more customization (Seriously, as a Paladins player who came to OW it fricking shocked me that skins in OW don't come with new, custom voices like in Paladins), way more champions so it's impossible to not find a champ you like, and Paladins is generally a more competitive game than OW. (In ranked you can actually ban champions.)
The negatives of Paladins is that ranked matchmaking sucks, it's currently no longer as popular as it used to be, and HiRez (It's developer) makes the most moronic decisions for Paladins's future possible.
Basically, if Paladins was developed by Blizzard or Riot or any AAA studio, nobody here would be playing Overwatch right now. That's how much better than Overwatch Paladins is, at its core.
Paladins biggest issue is instead of fixing bugs and issues with the game they just add more champions when they already have plenty. They should instead iterate on older champions that are shit useless garbage instead.
>If I enjoy hybrid playstyle between tank, DPS and support who would I enjoy in Paladins?
Multiple champs fill that role. Just from each category, Vivian is a damage with a personal shield and detector mines, Raum is a minigun tank which can heal his team off of his damage dealt while Lillith is a Support with one of the highest healthpools in the game but uses her own health to cast abilities.
The game appears shallower, but it's so much deeper that it's not even a competition. In all the years I've lurked Ganker, I've always seen people jump from OW to Paladins, but never from Paladins to OW.
>cheap clone
first
>>came out first
>>did most things first
>>is free and requires nothing with self-paying passes you can get for free after just farming the free rewards from the previous one, while OW is free yet requires data + non-self-paying passes
idk man, sounds like you're kinda deluded
>Mei is Evie... BECAUSE THEY USE ICE
>>Mei is a hypermobile flanker that warps+flies around with a close-range slow-projectile rocket launcher
>Reaper is Androxus.... BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SKULL MASK
can fly, deflect and stacks damage to confirm a punch-execution
Right, so you're an Overcuck who hasn't actually played the competitor, and are just comparing general aesthetics / spouting shit because you need to whiteknight for your multibillion dollar corporation that hates you.
Actual fricking Blizzdrone.
>cheap feel
Man, I'd take that over cheap gameplay. You can have fun just messing around with cards in Paladins, even if you're losing, meanwhile Overwatch is a chore when you've got shit matchmaking.
imagine how good it would be if they had just made a porn game instead
STOP CHARGING THE ZARYA
YU FRICKING MONGOL YOU ABSOLUTE BRAINDEAD homosexual
YOU MONKEY YOU FRICKING APE
GO BACK TO GUNDAM YOU FRICKING SHITTER
STOP
BNREAKING
EVERY SINGLE FRICKING SHIKELD IMBECILE
It doesn't help that she has a constant upkeep for her bubble now in addition to the flat buff they gave her to health and shields
SHE DOESNT HAVE CONSTAND SHIELDING MONGOL STOP PARROTING EVERY SINGLE THING YOU READ
>two (2) shields available with a laughably short cooldown between them
>bubbles last a half second longer
It is actually mindless to keep Zarya fully charged at all times with zero CC available now
dont shoot, i know, i udnerstand how braindead the OW scene is. I know how you think you've mastered a watered down quake and you have over 50 mains, watched every single CQX stream i know moron, i know.
Just don't fricking break the shields, she doesn't do damage, don't break the fricking shields, it's NOT THAT FRICKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND
>bubble
>passive tank ability reduces knockback
>just walk in front of anyone or anything getting attacked
It's easier as a Zarya player to charge bubbles yourself at this point.
You seem awfully asshurt, did Zarya bubble rape your mom?
>nothing changed
what do you mean, they stripped down all the features
now instead of spicy hot garbage it's just plain hot garbage
>only hero in the game that counters zarya has been straight up deleted for over a week
I don't intend on playing the game, but from what I've seen it really seems like Zarya is just busted in the mean time.
I say this as someone who mained Zarya in the first game
>nothing changed
Everything changed. I shamefully liked the first one and played it every week. Overwatch 2 fricking sucks dick. They completely ruined everything. Even the aiming feels off. 5v5 is just a dps race. No one actually plays their role well. It fricking sucks.
>that feel when I can't aim for shit as Widow but I can reflect headshot her just fine
am I moronic
ugly people dont sell games. no one likes ugly people. ugly people hate themselves. frick esg and that one tribe kicked out of everywhere.
>Unironically thinking DA JOOZ are behind a video game
Other than the moronic cash shop wtf are you on about
Its definitely not good but neither are its playerbase. Its literally a fps for those who suck at fps. Not to mentiom the awfully balanced roles
>people so addicted to shilled porn that they emotionally project a parasitic relationship to this shit franchise and its completely shallow characters and story to the point where they are unironically playing this scam of a sequel despite a million reasons not to touch it
based 2022 gamers
>shilled porn
imagine actually believing there is such a thing
idiotic 2022 /misc/tards
>imagine believing
>/pol/
you just confirmed porn shills for me
You’re not making sense anymore, you’re just stringing buzzwords together
>shilled porn is le fake XD
>9/10 threads on Ganker are porn threads and people going i will now buy your game and meaning it
Ganker is as popular as any other social media website at this point anon if you TRULY think corpos aren't instantly shilling their products anonymously you are a moron
yeah yeah we get it, you are moronic, no need to bust out the ironic 'le speak' to bang your moronation home.
>Ganker is as popular as any other social media website
You're actually moronic for this statement. There are 3 billion active users on just Facebook. While Ganker has been filled to the brim with normalhomosexualry it is no where near the numbers of reddit/tiktok/instagram etc...
Ganker is dying.
>and people going i will now buy your game and meaning it
People are horny and say stupid shit for comedic effect, you're a moron autist.
There is shilled porn. you can see the same accounts that get posted here shitting on Kamiya twitter too.
I've been using twitter for like 1 day and it's fairly obvious, just dont trust the pictures with watermarks or any 3d cgi. They don't deserve money they are also in the troony circle so hey, lol lmao Off-character measures is for swamp people anyways
>coomers
>buying games
most people arent that stupid
its a small minority of idiots that actualy buy the game to fap to it (despite overwatch being free and al that)
still most porn looks worse then in game models
Do you still have to use your phone number to play this shit?
Not if you've ever owned OW1. Otherwise, phone number is required for new accounts.
Do you need to verify the phone?
Asking because someone for some reason created new Battle.net account from Switch on my email for god knows what reason with mobile phone number connected and I've been sending over 500 verification SMSs using Power Automate script to said phone number and I wonder if it was worth it in the first place.
>Do you need to verify the phone?
I think you do.
lmao
>1 good play mixed in 50 games of frustration and shit
I don't know how people play this game, after two games I want to rip the arteries out of my wrists.
have you considered not being a noob?
back in my day, noobs like you got pwned before they were allowed to play.
Ok
why did they need to make a sequal? just update the original overwatch
That's pretty much what they did.
Yeah. This is in no way an actual sequel. It's basically just a major update that reduces the team size, rebalances some of the heroes, introduces a few new maps and debuts 3 new characters at the same time. The whole thing is a smoke screen for the game going free to play and cranking up the monetization. It's still the exact same game.
they made some promise about microtransactions or something w/ ow1, so they rebranded it as a sequel to no longer be held to that
Bastionchads...
i don't think i've ever seen bastion played
what the frick did they do
is he disabled?
Yes. He isnt in your hero list if you look. He was removed last week to be re-done. His new kit wasnt good.
oh my god...they finally nerfed bastion...........
No I think it was the bug where he could just spam his fricking ult on an objective without heed
A bug made it so you could spam his mortar ult instead of just shooting 3 times, leading to the enemy team dying no matter what
How does that take 2 weeks to fix?
They arent even doung balance updates until december
The funniest thing is that his ult was still pretty shit.
yeah i just saw a clip of it for the first time and some lucio got hit by two and still wall jumped out to safety
its kinda decent tbqh
Kiriko is fricking broken and a team without her is in heavy disadvantage, stupid blizzard balance logic.
It's just paid shills. You'd have to be braindead to not realize its just a skin collecting game after 2-3 games. They really are hoping the scam the zoomer audience big time kek.
to scam*
>play tank
>don't get stunned and cc to death for 10 minutes per game
I like it
It's crazy how much more fun it is to tank in this game just because of that alone.
Tbh its essentially the same game, but wiht more players now/more noobs.
Some heros got reworked for the better or for the worse but im having alot of of fun playing this with friends though. 5v5 is alot more fast paced and fun than 6v6.
6v6 with 2 tanks made some maps boring as frick to play in and nothing happened unless people had Ults.
>Didn't really remember anything about Overwatch
>Watch some games
>"Wait, these characters have the exact same abilities as TF2 characters. And these game modes are the same."
Jesus. No wonder people only care about the porn. This game is basically a reskin of a 15 year old game.
>people
Those are shill campaigns
No twittergay, people come here to discuss video games.
That key art is so soulless, holy shit
OW1 had more soul when the poster girl was a cute tomboy wife
You must please the niggometer.
so making an Egyptian character with the eye of Horus and Cleopatra hair is not a stereotype? Making the Australians Mad Max "junker" themed, an American cowboy, a South Korean gamer girl with a giant robot, a talking monkey, a literal dwarf, Russian strong women and a super intelligent gorilla are not all stereo types? Also TWO, Japanese ninjas....frick this dumb fricking company so much its so dumb
You forgot
>make character from Tibet
>he HAS to be a monk
>make character from Africa
>reworked into literal spearchucker
I love them but it's a bit silly innit
but it's ok to be racist if it's in the name of diversity, silly anon
3 japanese ninjas now
I'm a poor gay so I play in low resolution on most of my games to get higher fps and higher refresh rates (60 - > 75)
OW2 has fricking letterboxes on low resolutions which take ~25% of the game screen
I wish I wasn't poor
You are stupid because if you have a 60 hz screen going over 60 fps is not beneficial also the game's tick rate is 20 anyway. No need to make it harder than it is.
doesn't work on wine anymore so frick it
check desc for google drive. rip parameters and try to launch proton from your distro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glikk7ZeYeo&t=4
you die so fast as a support from shit like flanks out of nowhere its crazy. probably my biggest complaint. you never felt so helpless as a support before. dps and tank are both fun to play but you are essentially a helpless healbot as support most of the time if the other team focuses you and your team can't help defend you.
i play support. try to flank me mother fricker i double dare you, you'll be back trying to kill the soldier in no time. Unless you play reaper, then it's going to be a slugfiesta until i die after 3 minutes of swinging like a moron cause apparently the playerbase play with no sound, cant turn around and are unable to hit a phara, the slowest hero in the game
>every support has mercy heal over time now
literally never been easier for supports to survive flanks
against a genji or sombra in your face?
yes, especially genji
it was never bad, this is coming from someone who hasnt played in long time
the worst thing was the community. mainly overly competitive(onetrick) players who constantly whine about shit being op causing retweaks, homosexual shippers(actual incel girls, gays, and trannies) forcing sexual shit because certain characters have voice lines based off their synergy in gameplay/lore, and coomers. in that order
People just react emotionally to it out of a sense of nostalgia because things are unstable for a lot of people especially friends who I know haven't touched OW for years, and it reminds them of a time when things were at least a little more stable, its kind of like the case with New Horizons, it just came out at the right time.
Genji is the most satisfying character in the game, I can play him until I die. Especially now that stuns and shields are all but removed from the game.
Getting a triple kill because their team's positioning was off is amazing.
Getting nanoboosted is better than sex
>力がが漲ってくる!!
He'll be nerfed soon. Soujourn and Sombra too.
LET THE KEET SOON AY GUIDE YOU
It's worse now, they literally removed shit instead of adding stuff, and i'm not memeing about it being 5v5 instead of 6v6.
They added some very boring and badly designed maps and some characters that are literally powercreeps of the roles overall, a better but very generic hitscan dps, a better tank that I think is maybe the best one of the bunch because she's fairly balanced and a better healer that has the best aspects of every other healer.
But what weirds me out the most is that they removed some cosmetics, they made the old points you had worthless, you can only buy some epic skins and emotes with them. They opened your lootboxes because they removed lootboxes but for removing lootboxes they paywalled all cosmetics. You can get a total of 70 points for a skin a week, and a skin costs 1800. You have to grind 8 months for a legendary skin. In the past even though lootboxes are a gamble, you earned free lootboxes every level, you had some free lootboxes from events and weekly from arcade games and you could comfortly save up your coins from dupes and get at least 2 legendary skins from an event with coins, even though at one point they nerfed the lootboxes. But let's leave cosmetics aside, they are just cosmetics they don't improve your gameplay. But why, god why would they lock heroes behind a battlepass at a very high level. Why do you have to grind days or weeks for a hero when up until now, every hero was free. Even junker queen and Sojourn were free and they're ow2 charachers. And the stupid battlepass, why add a stupid battlepass, no one likes battlepasses, they're worse than lootboxes.
OW got big gamechanging updates almost every year and new characters,maps,mods and events every month. They stopped adding those for two years and just clumped them together and called it a new game, even though it's the absolutely same game. And they made it f2p. Then they spat in the faces of the people who bought OW and they shut the "original" down. Cont
Cont.
OW was never good but they made it look like a legendary game of the decade game compared to OW2 or should I say OW1.5
Meh, all that shit barely matters to me if at all. All I care about is that double shield is dead, being stunlocked is dead, dealing with double tank Black folk eating my bullets is dead, no more 2cp garbage, and the newer maps being a lot bigger with less chokepoints is good. The game feels way better than Overwatch 1 did in the last 4 years and that's good enough for me. Don't give a rats ass about the whales that are going to be forced to buy cosmetics. They're paying for the game to get updates and I get to play it for free.
Doubleshields is dead but it's still an unkillable aidsfest, you just shoot at bulletsponges but now tanks are twice as strong because there's only one in a team. They're literally better dps. You have no reason to play DPS, you can just go tank, not die and get more kills and do more damage. Somehow the balance is even more out of hand than before. For frick sake it's so broken that they've disabled 3 heroes from ranked and straight up removed a hero from the game for 'fixes'. I agree that OW1's maps had some terrible chokes that were absolute cancer but OW2's maps feel too big for an objective based shooter. This isn't battlefield. They are big empty maps with a small objective in the middle that forces you to play only that part of the map and ignore the rest. Plus all the dumb flying and jumping characters have too much space to just fly and run away and it makes the stupid bulletspongy fights even worse because they can now fly away into the open skies instead of being limited in some way. I understand you're a cheapskate that only played on free weekends and don't get me wrong I understand that Overwatch 1 was utter garbage but Overwatch 2 is an abomination made to just finish the game off and milk as much money from the blizzdrones as possible before they shut it down. F2P's will not play this game more than a week, the game's already dying in that regard but it's worse now because they stabbed the loyal blizzdrones in the back. OW1 at least had a community of moronic autists that liked to play it but OW2 killed that. Game is dead don't kid yourself, the queues are very long, the players are a bit more than OW1 for now but I guerantee you in a few months they will be less than the frequent OW1 players in the last year. And even if you don't care about skins I don't know how you will cope with whales bashing your head in with the latest broken hero while you have to grind your ass off to get it. Maybe the next hero won't even be in the battlepass.
Overwatch 2 has over 300k viewers while Valo got 100K and I just bought a skin for the first time in Valo. B-bros I don't feel so good.
>open game
>"subedega mah belushi"
>"skrrskrr"
>"go demoman demoman"
>free game
>needs a post paid number to play
lmao.
do not break Zarya bubble
DO NOT break the bubble
Stop being moronic, her CD still exists, her damage output is insane. STOP THROWING GAMES ITS BEEN 7 YEARS STOP Black person STOP I KNOW YOU CAN AIM STOP
Did Zarya's bubble rape your mom?
Americans did. Abhorrent people seem to be the ones that kept video games
Wut
Every single time, every single fricking time, so fricking stupid and they always throw, special snowflakes. I hate millenials so much, holy shit they are 25+ how can they be so fricking childish
>how can they be so fricking childish
You're throwing a childish fit on the internet over other people, look at yourself
And? that doesn't change anything of what i just said. I don't shit and piss myself on a video game voice comms. Now excuse me while i beat the shit out of my wife in pure anger
i hate the vrchat crasher music that is kiriko's theme.
>return to menu
>see Kiriko
>immediately go to gallery or profile to avoid the music
I'm having fun playing with my bros
>have fun playing with friends
>they always eventually want to go to comp
>get stomped because we're bad
>mood immediately dies and they quit
Why can't we just screw around in unranked? We're never getting good.
Ranked is try hard man, unranked is literally people who want to chill
>tfw have no friends to even play ranked
>see friend come online
>after the match I was in ask if they wanna play together
>"friend has stopped playing Overwatch"
Girl on the right is cute, middle and left are POZ garbage
why do every tank on my team willingly tries to walk over torb's lava ult
like holy fricking shit it's fricking lava why even think about trying to walk over it
>want to play Kiriko
>people say she's just a better Zenyatta
>I never know when's a good time to be throwing shurikens instead of throwing paper
how do I play her?
>Better Zenyatta
lol
Anyway you only throw the daggers if none of your allies need healing or there’s a low health enemy nearby. Don’t try to be Moira, focus on healing and not attacking. Oh and if possible try to use the wall climb to get to the top of buildings to use as a vantage point
>better zenyatta
>when discord orb is more useful now than ever
Whomever told you she's a better Zen is an actual moron
>zenyatta
She's nothing like zen. She's a dive support with tons of utility and okay healing/damage.
>when to throw daggers
Generally speaking, for optimal damage/healing, throw a single kunai while ofudas are charging. Obviously do more damage or healing depending on the situation, but if you're pulling a baptiste, the recharge of a full burst heal is just enough time for a kunai (or a kunai+melee)
>Nooooo you can't call him McCree! Think of the heckin' sexual harassment lawsuit!
>instead we will now name him after a rapist and murderer
What did Blizzard mean by this?
Rein is being slept on and is a lot better than people are saying, there are just too many Reins playing like OW1 where they slowly walk forward or stand in a choke with shield up taking free damage for no reason. You will have infinitely more success W + M1 ing at every possible opportunity and using shield for breathing room or as a temporary measure to help your team retreat back to a corner and reset. Only problem is Orisa who counters literally everything you do
The problem is Rein has no real answer to Orisa and Zarya. Rein just feeds Zarya charge and then gets torn up when she's max charge. Orisa is practically a hard counter with her new kit.
I'm really not sure how you fix it. I think they should increase his movement while shielding speed for starters. Like, would he really be that overpowered if they remove the movement slowing effect from holding up a shield?
Is this chick with the overwatch shirt typical of the player base?
>ts the same exact hot garbage as before
it's literally worse in every way
every single fricking hero feels like absolute garbage to play now and most of the game modes don't even account for buffed tanks
who is this dumpster fire even for
Game is wayyy better now and I'm also better than you so my opinion means much more.
I can't take any more losing, I am not this bad. The guy who invented the multiplayer genre needs to die a painful death
OW2 made me realize that a lot of people no longer 'actually' play games or not sure how to express it. They hop in and enter default mode. They go through the motions of the match like shooting, and moving but that's about the extent of it.
I have no idea what causes this phenomenon but it's super fricking weird.
tanks love it because they're OP
dps either love it or hate it depending on how good they are at 1v1
supports hate it unless they play support to dps, in which case they hate it a little less
most of the supports are still fun to play, just mercy is in a really absolutely fricking shit spot. i cannot do well with her no matter what. she needs to be buffed or slightly reworked.
they're fun until you get a competent diver ( and it's not like it takes a lot in these conditions ) on the enemy team and at that point it's just misery
I agree on mercy, she feels like dead weight
this is why you play hybrid support as zen or kiriko
can fix shit up and frick shit up at the same time
They should give brig some sort of slow on her shield bash again or give it some personal overheal effect and I could cope.
>rein m1 constantly
>dps refuse to punish him for it for some fricking reason
You want a DPS to punish a tank for attacking? A single Moira can out heal 80% of the DPS cast.
A DPS simply can't punish a rein without first taking out the healer behind him. Issue there is the Rein is still big enough without his shield to bodyblock half the shots that would have hit the healer.
Shit's moronic. Unless your DPS are flankers or Snipers, those healers (and ergo the tanks) are practically untouchable.
No healer can outheal a dps that is continuously headshotting a tank. If the rein is indeed just braindead m1 and the dps has distance, they should be able to kill a rein. I've killed charging reins from full health.
Go Zen and discord the Rein all game.
Wow I thought SBMM memes were just scrubs downplaying their lack of personal responsibility but I just had a legitimate 50-3 match after winning a few in a row
It really is ridiculous. The matchmaking is legitimately broken. There are so many stomp games where you or the other team can't even leave spawn. I don't know why it's doing this.
>Match is going well and we’re in the lead
>Junkrat/Dva/Hanzo use their ult
>Most of us die
>The survivors get gangbanged
>Enemy wins
Stop staggering.
but they removed CC and 3 maps for no reason
CC was antifun.
>How are people saying this is a good game?
porn
>b-b-but the gamepla-
porn
>b-b-but coomers don't even play Overw-
porn
If you want to direct your hate at someone, it's brain-dead animals who consoom Overwatch porn.
>Game requires phone verification
I didn't Blizzard was trying to speedrun the ow2's suicide.
>Game requires phone verification
it doesn't.
dogshit game, regardless.
I thought it did? Did they change that?
they removed the phone requirement before launch
Ah so Blizzard didn't want to pull the trigger yet
6v6 is better than 5v5 but less shields and stuns are a good thing.
Now there's too much healing and things become stale until someone uses ult to snipe the supports so you can slowly push forward.
Half the Damage characters are worthless in general. Genji and Soujorn outclass everyone else by having superior mobility and damage. Pharah needs Mercy pocket, Hanzo/Widow are genji food, Bastion is too fat. Tracer, Reaper, and Sombra are good but prone to counterpicks. Soldier is Mr. Average. Cassidy is hot garbage.
I'd say rework Bastion to be a tank and rework Doomfist to be a damage dealer.
>Now there's too much healing
Not true at all. There was way too much healing in OW1 compared to OW2. The problem is, and always will be, two tanks. When you have two tanks, the amount of mitigation and health on the field makes it impossible to kill everyone.
DPS diff is so impactful now compared to OW1. A single person can now legit carry a team.
so is it true i can't play my homie bastion at all?
yes... banned...
but why? his new shit makes me want to actually play him now.
though i can't tell why you would want to go turret over recon mode though. homie doesn't have a heal anymore
his ult is bugged allowing it to be shot infinitely instead of just 3 shots
and instead of just fixing that bug they removed him from the game a week ago with no sign of return.
But they'll fix issues with the shop the day they get discovered.
Priorities amirite?
this smells like some halo infinite shit.
i tried playin for a bit. the all random hero mode specifically and just got pissed how it switches everytime you die. frickin why?
also not a fan of 5v5. the frick dude?
>But they'll fix issues with the shop the day they get discovered.
This was always the case since the Xbox 360 era when monetization tactics became a thing. We have an inside joke with our friends. Devs will fix anything that makes them lose money in a day. Otherwise you'll need to wait for months for anything else. They put a bunch of "fixes" in OW2 that people were asking for since 2016.
Yeah they outright removed him from the game.
That's not hyperbole, he's just not in the game at all. They removed him a week ago and there's no sign of him being added back.
>Friends are AAA homosexuals that won't play gundam with me
>Hate how slow most of the cast feels without universal sprint/dash
>Hate how strong cheeky picks or murder-suicides are without reviveable bodies
>Hate how the role shit makes the tanks feast or famine
>Hate how many of the supports are "active" healers that basically can't fight and heal at the same time
And somehow Gundam has better queue times too. I wish my friends weren't homosexuals that choose polish over gameplay
>Zarya
>Zen
>Sojourn
>Moira
is it just me or did picks get really fricking stale and boring with the same picks over and over?
All of those characters are strong right now. They’ll probably get tuned down, Zarya will be fore sure according to devs.
What makes Zen so strong? I must be going up against shit Zen players cause I can usually deal him pretty easily.
Zen is a glass cannon that also happens to be a healer. Sure he’s slow, but if he can land his orbs while he has you discorded, you’re dead in 2~4 shots, depending on how accurate the player is, if you’re anything but a tank.
his healing is dogshit, he has no mobility and gets deleted for free by genji/sombra, he's ok but there's a reason you don't see him in higher ranks at all
I agree he falls off at high ranks, but a majority of the playerbase isnt in the higher ranks. So you see him a lot in unranked where he weakness isn’t as exploited as normally would be with competent play.
Those characters are used because they're the only good ones. Zen is for DPS players who get stuck playing support, Moira is by far the best solo queue support because she's the only one who can self peel, same for Sojourn really. And Zarya just does crazy fricking damage and has like 900 effective health.
I can't aim.
I played OW1 religiously for years. I didn't want to play OW2 after the series of disappointments I had with the devs but I did try it, mostly because I'm an achievement prostitute and they added new ones to the game. I won't play it regularly but I will check back from time to time.
Graphics: I don't like the new "smooth" look. I said this before. The game unironically lost the edge, both the character, menu and level design had prominent sharp edges. Now everything rounded, everything mellow and cartoony even more. Original OW had the epic feeling, the new game is really just wants to be some quick "fun". The PvE preview makes it look like a Marvel story and not the more serious tone of the original game /cinematics which I really liked.
Monetization: Absolute assfricked garbage, I saw my fair share of F2P garbage but this takes the cake. I set all my stuff to default. I have 99.9% of items from OW1 but frick them I won't support their mtx. No player will buy anything "cool" because they saw it on me. As for putting characters behind the Battle Pass FRICK THEM. I bet the PvE will be BP exclusive (or worse a separate Pass exclusive) too. People should rape them for this first and foremost. I hope the game loses 99% of the userbase once the novelty wears off.
Balance: didn't play much but what I did proved what I expected. Q times are still bad because removing a single tank won't solve the DPS popularity issue and since there are only one slot for tanks it actually makes it worse for tankgays. I always say everywhere, no role q usually ran 1 tank, 1 healer, 4 dps in OW1 (unless they memed with 6 dps), they should have done that, removing one tank but not a healer makes no sense. DPS will always be the most popular anyway, the passive made the game a straight up fragfest as it encourage DPS players further to lone wolf. Yes it might look better at first because everything is fast but it turned the game into a TDM.
Junker Queen feels good, the other ones are meh
Supports are fine. Moira is a bit too strong offensively but she can't win games by herself.
Tanks are fine as long as you switch to Zarya to counter the braindeadness that is Orissa.
Damage balance is all over the place. A good Genji can solo carry the game and has nothing to deal with him unless your Ana is an aimbot. Soujorn can penta with ult from half way across the map. Genji makes Hanzo/Widow troll picks. Cassidy is a troll pick without his stun. Reaper guy pubstomps but can't play the game against a good Genji or Soujorn. Don't even get me started on Sombra.
BECAUSE ZOOMERNIGGIES DONT HAVE GOOD TASTES, THEY NEED TO BE HYPE-HERDED LIKE DUMB FRICKING ANIMALS TO MAKE THEM PLAY GAMES
I haven't played overwatch since right before the release of doomfist since I was getting a bit frustrated with the game
ow2 is just the refresh I need to get back into it, I've been having lots of fun
i think its fun, i don't give a shit how many tubers and streamers whine about it. i never played 1 and i'm having a great time learning a new game and its nice to finally have a new team class shooter after playing thousands of hours of tf2.
I never played OW1 but OW2 is a decent multiplayer game. I am looking forward to seeing what they add for PVE content. However, if this game was not free to play I would have never touched it. And blizzard frick off, I'm not buy skins or a battle pass. I'm not spending a dime in OW2.
I haven't played this shit nor do I intend to but I'm curious, what's so good about Sombra now?
Hack time is instant and she cant be killed fast enough for her to not teleport away because BLIZZARD REMOVED ALL THE CC THE DUMB FRICKS
Brig is getting reworked soon so stun is probably coming back
I want to BE Mercy!
you can be my mercy, anon
>be tank
>get a pick
>push
>nobody else fricking follows
>die
>be support
>dps and tank go to the other side of the map and 1v5 through walls for some reason
>they die
>be dps
>get a pick
>tank too chickenshit to push
>enemy team regroups, we lose
>dps and tank go to the other side of the map and 1v5 through walls for some reason
Blizzard should really make a hero to address that issue.
assuming equal mechanical skill, a kiriko that tps to a teammate that is 1v5ing is throwing.
>and that's a good thing
how do I play JQ? Just man up and melee everyone?
hit your knife pulls
she's a less self-sufficient hog with a better hitbox and less range
>Step 1: Throw Gracie
>Step 2: Spam Commanding Shout
>Step 3: ???
>Step 4: Get POTG
What's not to get?
Ok but can I still dismantle shitter teams entire plan plan picking up Winston and jumping their backlines?
As long as Bastion is out of the game, yes.
How to play Junker Queen?
Whoops, answered already. Sorry, should've read the thread.
I need a braindead DPS that can completely forgo aiming but can still contribute. Who do I play? Extra emphasis on the "I can't aim worth shit" part. I tried Torb for his turret but I get destroyed every time.
Why don't you try Orisa? She has a gatling gun.
junkrat obv
I'm sick of junkrat who else?
if you suck so much at aiming you should go for tanks, otherwise sym/reaper/maybe nu-mei/maybe pharah
>otherwise sym/reaper/maybe nu-mei/maybe pharah
all of these make you aim tho
I know but they require the least aim
Reaper, just get close enough
I have shit ping so even if I "get close" on my screen the game thinks I'm still shooting from a kilometer away and don't do any damage I also don't like how his wraith movement can be seen by the enemy team. If it stealthed him like Moira he would be great..
Wraith is for escape, use shadowstep to tp to them. Tp to high ground above them so they won't see you
>Wraith is for escape
people just follow you as you slowly try to get away and shoot you as soon as you reappear, shit doesn't work without stealth
Kiriko is super fun
i really like the changes they made actually. the game is faster paced now. as dps it actually feels like i can, you know, carry the game. as tank it feels like i'm the team leader, space maker. as support, i actually feel like i'm supporting.
there needs to be some balance tweaking, but i'm having fun. i treat overwatch as my chill out game. i don't play ranked, only quick play. it's honestly a good vibe
I'm just glad the two million shields are gone and there's only one tank per team. Like you said, however, a single good player tips the balance scale immensely in his favor.
>Thought Rein was the worst part of launch OW and he trashed game pace, insanely broken and in every single match without fail
>Get told nuh-uh people just love le wholesome heckin "WOAH MELEE IN A SHOOTER SO BALANCED BLIZZARD" hammer man
>Orisa releases because Blizzard doesn't realize that Rein is universally picked because he's broken so they double down on shield meta
>Say it's a really fricking bad sign
>Get told NUH-UH
>Start to see the tide turn around Brigitte when people finally get that plinking on shields for 10 minutes is not engaging gameplay
>Sigma releases and people get enraged, Blizzard frantically walks it back by gutting the hell out of almost every shield
>Brigitte functionally doesn't have one anymore, Orisa literally doesn't have one anymore, all existing shields nerfed, one tank removed ENTIRELY
>morons pretend like they weren't defending the frick out of the worst mechanic to be in a shooter in years
I was right on launch and it took years for the game's stupid fricking playerbase to pick up on how hard they were ruining the game
the worst was the mouthbreathers who said "UHH HANZO AND WIDOW" as the justification for shield hell as if those two can't somehow be nerfed