Billy-Bob, this website is dedicated to Japanese culture, not redneck culture. Not sure why Ganker, /k/, and /misc/ still exist, but you have the wrong impression. Trailer-trash is not accepted here.
Even if I was a lefty I'd be put off by that. What total immersion breaking bs.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You have to understand that the left views the entire world through the lens of territory capture. It is good because it signals it is one of their spaces.
1 week ago
Anonymous
It's clearly a reference to Working Designs translations, you chud.
LMAO i can't believe chud is finally used i video games
i don't give a shit about this troony game but am open for normalizing the word ''chud'' all the seething would be worth it
How do these extremists manage to become japanese localizers?
The long march truly is amazing. There is nothing that will be left undefiled. It is a shame too. Humanity could have been great and created great art, but they will never be allowed to.
explain why it's good that a fantasy person is aware of the 1980's film C.H.U.D. and its spawning of a term used by terminally online Twitter morons.
I'll wait
I'll wait on a fan retranslation. troonyslators really have going in full force as of late. Wouldn't surprise me they're actively doing this not just because they suck at their job and want to push shit, but actively hate Japan and want to shit all over their work.
Sad., but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Wokeshit and troonyism is a brainworm that works its way into so much shit either because people are weak-willed and won't stand up against or ignore it. Either that or they troon out themselves. Someone please just end this nonsense. Mental illness should not be allowed like this much less celebrated.
>I think they know they're getting pushed out soon by AI
They know, and rather than just changing shit to spite fans, they're pumping out shitty translations in protest to the industry that's set to replace them. Absolutely brainrotted toxic individuals.
I honestly kind of doubt it, China will release unpozzed AI and everyone will flock to that instead. I think Tiktok has the west spooked because they could witness that on a mass scale as everyone lets China spy on them instead in the future and Tiktok made A LOT of people pro Palestine so anything that allows China to spread "propaganda" instead of them is going to be seen as a threat.
They might actually have to acquiesce or else they threaten to have an entire generation growing up as sinophiles.
>all of a sudden
Its always been happening. People are just paying more attention now because these translator homosexuals are proudly advertising the fact they are doing it + the advent of AI translation possibilities has brought the discussion to the forefront
>mfw I put the game on my ignore list because groid in the cover art >find out about this shit later
sometimes you just know when a game is going to be filled with trash
kek, I feel sorry for EN only bros. Literally EN gets the worst translation everytime. If you can't learn JP learn something easier like french or spanish, at least you get a more accurate translation.
What in the actual frick? How does this shit end up in a released game? Is there no one keeping an eye on the quality of the translation and reining these morons in?
You’d think Japan would know better by now.
You put your fricking trust in the team in a language YOU DO NOT SPEAK to do a good job as you are trying to rush a now set deadline with a publisher because you underestimated the costs of your game. Eiyuden Chronicles, for some reason, was mismanaged and the translation seems to be the only culprit and at least that can be fixed.
>chud lingo from resetera, kiwifarms etc >in a fantasy game
>Rub-a-dub-dub, don't be a flub >commie references brainrot
>inserting gender jokes in otherwise a harmless scene
>(After the screen goes black) >she starts to speak like a fricking Black person >"to keep YO' HANDS... outta my zone. Yeah?" >"Or did I breaka your widdle heady wid my big big words?"
>"Farthead"
Too many reddit-tier commie jokes inserted just for the sake of ruining characterization and mood of the game as well as overall enjoyment of the players. I can't even take this seriously. These woke translators need to get off social media, touch some fricking grass outside, and be shot down a peg or two. Fricking incompetent losers, get off my hobby.
This is unironically the reason I decided not to pick the game up. I've seen bad localizations before, put up with them even, but "chud" is fricking ridiculous.
Then again it's not like it's two furries yiffing it up in place of an actual conversation. Fire Emblem
>Why did it fail in JP even with a untouched script?
Random encounters filter zoomers and boomers alike. Literally no one has time for that shit anymore, even Dragon Quest shifted over to visible encounters. I tried replaying Skies of Arcadia and it aged like shit with that ridiculous encounter rate. Meanwhile Chrono Trigger aged like fine wine.
>Overworld encounters are trash for zoomers with ADHD.
Being able to run past encounters is a good thing, it can prevent you from getting over-leveled, and a lot of games with visible encounters will make enemies chase you or avoid you depending on the level difference, which is a neat way of gauging how ready your are for a boss. There's nothing zoomer about wanting visible encounters. If devs trully wanted to entertain zoomers, then they'd just add a jump button that doesn't do anything like in Star Ocean 6
Seems to me like his "opus" is a carbon copy of Suikoden II with some name changes, that's also inferior to the original despite releasing 20+ years later.
Cute boy
Hey, I was pretty sure that Tuta was a girl in S2 until S3 came out and revealed he was actually a guy.
>unite attacks suck, you use 2+ characters to do one character's worth of damage >runes mostly suck, because magic is poorly balanced >magic is so laughable that a high-cost MP spells will deal 20 points of damage more than a character's REGULAR attack, if not less in some instances >characters more often than not have irredeemable stats and are glorified benchfodder, I can't recall a Suikoden where this was that bad >script is bland, there is no cohension or connection to the world at large, the lack of something like True Runes leaves a gaping hole in the story and MC motivation >MC has no real reason to do what he's doing, he's doing it all because he likes meddling. I guess the bad guys burned his town down? Except not really, all the civvies got evacuated and the town can be returned to almost immediately and there is no damage >localization is cringe >no stakes and did I mention no real connection of anyone or anything? you just go through the motions
This game is absolute dogshit. The localization is nothing compared to how poorly half-baked this game is.
>I guess the bad guys burned his town down? Except not really, all the civvies got evacuated and the town can be returned to almost immediately and there is no damage
Did you miss the part where that was addressed in the post you replied to?
Damn, I got an inkling the game wouldn't live up to expectations because the spinoff did a terrible job with world building. Lenses are not a good substitute for runes, they feel too artificial compared to runes, which felt like a primeval force, probably due in part to people having rune-lens gauntlets or whatever instead of having an innate number of "slots" in their soul to accommodate runes. Balance wasn't the greatest in the old games, because the characters with three open slots could generally be tweaked to outperform anyone else, but some team attacks made the lower slot characters worth using, if not for battle effectiveness, then for flavor. I'll muscle my way through the game to eke out whatever enjoyment I can, and I pray the Shadow Hearts successor that was co-funded with this game isn't also a wet fart.
Damn, I got an inkling the game wouldn't live up to expectations because the spinoff did a terrible job with world building. Lenses are not a good substitute for runes, they feel too artificial compared to runes, which felt like a primeval force, probably due in part to people having rune-lens gauntlets or whatever instead of having an innate number of "slots" in their soul to accommodate runes. Balance wasn't the greatest in the old games, because the characters with three open slots could generally be tweaked to outperform anyone else, but some team attacks made the lower slot characters worth using, if not for battle effectiveness, then for flavor. I'll muscle my way through the game to eke out whatever enjoyment I can, and I pray the Shadow Hearts successor that was co-funded with this game isn't also a wet fart.
i'll be honest with you bros. i replayed through all the mainline suikodens last year in preparation for this game, only to drop it after 8 hours. shit really is just fricked and inferior to systems created 25+ years ago, and i'd even forgive the localization if the game was good, but it sure as frick isn't.
i'll hope they fix the game or some autists get together and make a fanpatch or something later, but i'm done for now.
if armed fantasia and penny blood suck, i'll fricking kill myself
Yeah, it's derivative of Suikoden 2 but the assassination scene was genuinely well-done and I liked all the fake out endings.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I feel like Suikoden 5 tried to take the important aspects of 2 and frame them into its own narrative and gameplay systems. Eiyuden feels like it is trying to copy 2 without understanding what made it work.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Some parts of 5 come off as too much of a 2 try-hard but even then it still had real stakes and did a good job of setting up the personal meaning to (You) with its long prologue. It's telling as hell that no one who talked about Eiyuden's story so far even said anything nice about that.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I forgive them being a bit try-hard in some places after the disaster that was Suikoden 4 just so they had some connective tissue to link 5 with 1 and 2.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah, Suikoden 4 was pretty shit but Rhapsodia was surprisingly decent.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I should give that a try, I have heard it was a decent game but never got around to playing it.
Yeah, it's derivative of Suikoden 2 but the assassination scene was genuinely well-done and I liked all the fake out endings.
Some parts of 5 come off as too much of a 2 try-hard but even then it still had real stakes and did a good job of setting up the personal meaning to (You) with its long prologue. It's telling as hell that no one who talked about Eiyuden's story so far even said anything nice about that.
yeah that's what fricks with me about eiyuden when even compared to 5. the prologue is fricking long but the payoff is quite good, and the stakes are set very high; in eiyuden, your village gets put slightly on fire, no one dies, the empire walks into a town and just chills, and then you go back to your comfy town and chill for 2 weeks. 5 sets up what you are about to lose and do end up losing pretty well
1 week ago
Anonymous
>That moment when you finally get to see the full context behind Georg's assassination of the tyrant Queen
Frick, still makes me tear up.
1 week ago
Anonymous
yep, i love that scene, that was so good
1 week ago
Anonymous
I liked that scene too because it showed how much of a serious threat the Sun Rune was.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>get entrusted by your best bro to kill not only the queen, but his wife, if she ever loses control of the sun rune >understand but still loathe the idea >the time comes >still have to be convinced after watching her atomize her husband >spend most of the game unable to figure out how to tell their son amidst all the actually true rumors that you killed the queen
georg had a rough job
1 week ago
Anonymous
Suikoden 5 had hands down one of the harshest depictions of what it means to be close to a True Rune and the consequences to people surrounding it.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Suikoden V duels gave me a ryona fetish
1 week ago
Anonymous
Meanwhile
>Lens lens lens lens lens >Rub a dub dub thanks for the chuds
Yes, and they still do updates in their twitter anyway. I dont know what indie jp hame started the trend, but they always do a smaller game first. Im more interested with the Wild Arms knockoff but really, we wont be seeing any real, tangible update from both of these titles until 2026
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Wild Arms knockoff
I swear you're joking but at the same time I know you're not
1 week ago
Anonymous
Even if its made by the same guys, I consider it a knockoff. It also isnt helping that its leaning less on the wild west themes of the first 3 games, and more on the dedolate wasteland magicpunk themes of the 4th and 5th games
1 week ago
Anonymous
So you consider might no 9 a mainline mega man game because inafune worked on it?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Even if its made by the same guys, I consider it a knockoff. It also isnt helping that its leaning less on the wild west themes of the first 3 games, and more on the dedolate wasteland magicpunk themes of the 4th and 5th games
oh fug I misread it as Armed Fantasia/Wild Arms was also getting some shitty rouglite prequel
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Im more interested with the Wild Arms knockoff
I'd cream my pants if the smaller not-wild-arms game is a knockoff of wild arms tactics.
yeah i never care about their little prologue games or whatever they make, i just want the finished products i backed. some people might like them, i don't, so i just ignore them
Yup. Infinite Wealth and Rebirth. Skipped out on Reload since I've already played FES like 2 times back in the day, and nothing new interests me aside from the nicer modern portraits.
>Like a Zoomer Infinite Yong
Yakuza died with 8. Tomino is gone and they are turning it into a joke with the crazy haired man and shitty eceleb voice actors.
>he doesn't rub-a-dub-dub thanks for the grub
newbie. It's still a bad localization choice though. She's supposed to be a genki tomboy not a sassy moron.
inserting jokes where jokes don't originally exist is probably the biggest grievance i have with the localizers. actual zoomer tier social media brainrot, pandering to people with 5 second attention spans.
>pic
Mimimi announced it'd shut down even before releasing Cursed Crew. The game was still inferior to Shadow Tactics, true, but it didn't kill the studio.
>Why did it fail in JP even with a untouched script?
Random encounters filter zoomers and boomers alike. Literally no one has time for that shit anymore, even Dragon Quest shifted over to visible encounters. I tried replaying Skies of Arcadia and it aged like shit with that ridiculous encounter rate. Meanwhile Chrono Trigger aged like fine wine.
>Literally no one has time for that shit anymore, even Dragon Quest shifted over to visible encounters.
They could have taken some ideas from other games with random battles, for example Wild ARMs 3 allows you to skip them by consuming an encounter gauge that refills by either fighting or picking up tokens.
>This is actually good localization >I am a gay homosexual because my uncle diddled me as a kid and I am moronic and have a sub 80 I.Q. and sometimes brain leaks out of my ear
tee hee don't mind me, just localizing and spicing up your post
>rub-a-dub-dub, don't be a flub
I can't speak or write japanese, but I can write and speak english but I don't understand what this means given the context, the text on the furthest right I can understand but not the localized text
Sar please can we get redeemed eiyuden?
The context is that she literally rubs her gauntlet like a genie bottle to make it work. Never present your knowledge OF English as actually knowing English, you dumb ESL.
she could've instead said that "it usually works when I'm playing with it myself" as that would've fit with her character since she's a prostitute who wants to get into nowa's pants
1 week ago
Anonymous
The pronoun "it" after "playing" ruins the double entedre. How bout you go home and get your shine box, leave the thot patrolling to the pros.
>controller drift is insane on the gamepass
anyone found a way to fix it?
i know on steam you can adjust controller deadzones on their steam controller thing.
that was fine, until the last line, holy shit, the chud thing is whatever, its even funny watching you morons get your panties on a twist over, however
>someone who isnt perpetually offended
Offense isn't the issue. It would be equally awful if they had inserted "chad" or "troon" or "s-boy" or whatever into it. Keep that shit out of the games unless it's specifically internet-lingo in the original.
It's surreal how hard they go out of their way to make sure women are never seen as weak. They specifically reword it so they don't use the word "protect" because that implies she's weaker than the man. Like every localization does this now, to the point where entire characters are rewritten.
>Disabled, neurodivergent, queer
This just means she's a regular roastie with OCD and anxiety and declared herself bisexual because there are no consequences for a woman doing so.
I love how the idea that maybe they shouldn't be bringing that over in the first place doesn't cross their mind. They can't leave it alone, they MUST ruin something else that somebody made instead of making something themselves to appeal to those western women. Those that do try to appeal to western women have no one buy their games while fujos will go play fan translated otome games instead that give them the content that they want. Almost like people are people and liking things is universal.
I swear there's no one more racist than white women and transsexuals, apparently Japanese women are degenerates unlike western women so their sicko shit needs to toned down for civilized romance fans.
anon we've had translators explicitly state that's the case. they are instructed not to make women appear weak. it was really bad in triangle strategy.
>Black personmongrel haircut, shades and a chinese sword
jesus christ i thought it was only one of these apes i didnt expect more of them and especially not like this. that guy reminds me of the black guy from yiik
Suikoden was always an overrated series. Grandia 1&2 are better than any Suikoden. Breath of Fire 3 and 4 are better than any Suikoden. Star Ocean and Tales games are better than Suikoden.
Most of these examples arent bad at all and nobody would have even remarked about them before this autistic line by line comparison thing started up.
But using shit like chud pop culture refs is gay as shit
I think I started playing easy games like Pokemon and Dragon Quest Monsters after a year. After two and a half I would say that I could understand most games I tried
Gamers are easy targets. We're hard to like because we're anti social and/or autistic as frick.
And that's also why during Cold War, McCarthy went after the Hollywood writers; they were all anti social, gay, autistic and liberal. Plus no one gave a shit about them. At first he tried to go after movie stars but Americans fricking worship them and wouldn't allow them to be slandered or accused of being Communist.
Anyways, gamers have finally had enough and we're pushing back against Sweet Baby Inc, DEI, troony shit, etc.
Now in order to get their attention and force change then we're going to have to hit them where it hurts: in the wallet.
And some examples are going to have to be made to show other developers and publishers what's going to happen if they keep trying to force this shit on us.
>I need my video games to be bland and boring direct translations
Heh, fools. You're as bland on the inside as you are on the outside.
I bet you eat plain spaghetti without sauce.
I bet you eat sandwiches without crust.
I bet you eat pizza without toppings.
I bet you eat french fries without ketchup.
I bet you eat PB&Js without the peanut butter.
I bet you eat plain tortilla chips.
I bet you eat the grains in Lucky Charms and leave the marshmallows.
I bet you eat chili without beans.
I bet you eat rice. Just rice.
I bet you eat macaroni without the cheese.
I bet you eat chocolate chip cookies without the chocolate.
I bet you eat hot dogs without toppings.
I bet you eat soup.
Honestly, you guys are truly pathetic. An utter disgrace. Beyond redemption. May god have mercy on your soulless translations.
>I bet you eat pizza without toppings. >I bet you eat french fries without ketchup. >I bet you eat plain tortilla chips. >I bet you eat rice. Just rice. >I bet you eat chili without beans. >I bet you eat chocolate chip cookies without the chocolate. >I bet you eat soup.
I do these things.
>I bet you eat plain spaghetti without sauce.
I did this with lasagna noodles when I was younger. Just the noodles with salt and pepper. I'll also raise you 1 more, when I was younger I ate hotdogs and hamburgers without any meat. Just a roll with ketchup, pickles, and onions. Get on my level of autism.
You don't understand, they MUST punch down on the neurodivergent and abuse their position of power to do it. They will laugh that they upset all the autistic people too, absolute sacks of shit that pretend to take the high road when they're human garbage. Imagine anyone doing that in real life, going to a crowd of autistic people and smashing and defacing something they like and then insulting them after. These localizers are actual psychopaths that would be cancelled for their behavior if anyone knew the extent of what they were doing.
not really. it's broken at the moment and the mp system is inferior to the traditional rune system, even if magic wasn't broken (in a bad way). definitely a negative as i mostly enjoyed magic heavy parties, but even the short and mid range characters don't feel as good to play with.
Saw the reviews, there are a whole bunch of 5/10's and 6/10's.
I knew suikoden was always shite but i'm glad that other people are finally realising this.
I was going to get it
I won't now.
You can die angry over it.
6/10 trash games don't deserve mentally ill fans doing it for free, but yet, here you are.
i don't care about whatever qol features people think it's lacking, if you directly compare it to the ps1 suikodens it plays like those games came AFTER eiyuden.
>and lack of QoL features
Is an easy to navigate Menu a QoL feature? Holy shit is it a pain in the ass to change anything in the party. frick this style over substance bullshit, if I have to navigate with bumpers AND triggers then it's a shit menu. Just give me basic ass glossary I can navigate with the dpad and A+B buttons, Jesus
that's actually really close to how i feel about the games. i'm weird about 3 and 4 and my mind can change on them from time to time, and i like 4 more than most people. from what i've played i would place it around 3 or 4 subjectively. it feels like things just aren't working properly and it fricks with how the game feels to play, and i think the opening hours are weaker than the rest of the series.
2>5>1>tactics>3/4/eiyuden if i had to think about it and place it right now.
>having fun
God for you. I wish I had such a low bar that I could be entertained by dogshit, I genuinely do, because that's all that seems to be made nowadays.
>It certainly isn't the best JRPG I've ever played, but it's far from dogshit.
We live in an age of overwhelming choice. There are too many games and not enough time to play them all, even just the good ones. Mediocre games may as well be shit.
Only on the internet will you get people acting like passive aggressive homosexuals because someone is enjoying something.
I'd post the "stop having fun" image if I had it saved.
Can you truly say that you're having fun if you need to come on Ganker of all places to vallidate your experience with positive opinions on the game? If me saying the game is shit sours your opinion, them clearly the game actually is shit and you're just deluding yourself.
>Can you truly say that you're having fun if you need to come on Ganker of all places to vallidate your experience with positive opinions on the game?
nta but it is annoying to enjoy a game and then find out you can't talk about it on the video games board because it tripped one of Ganker's alarms.
Can't say anything about he quality of this game, but from what I've seen today on the catalog, nobody is really talking about it outside of the localization stuff, which is just a vehicle to steer threads into more /misc/shit.
t. Fightangay anon that's seen this song and dance on Ganker too many times.
It should be common knowledge at this point that Ganker is the worst place to talk about games. Never heard of this game before, but now it's got multiple fast threads up because it caught the attention of the average poster on this board.
You either get this, waifu generals or nobody cares and the game's threads die after 50 posts.
Not even defending this game specifically, but if you enjoy a game you should be able to talk about it with other people who do. The amount of people who don't play games but still come into threads about them to complain is fricking insane sometimes.
Some of the best times I've had on this board were times like the XBC2 release when everyone was playing through more or less at a similar pace (or at least, when I wasn't so busy in my life that I was miles behind the crowd) and the discussion was fun, positive, and vibrant, thread after thread for about two weeks before the bulk finished it and posters started being replaced by shitposters.
It's fricking sad when you can't even get that, because a game has triggered some kinda ideological stampede.
>I wish I had such a low bar that I could be entertained by dogshit
Ganker is really the last board that should be talking about having superior tastes in anything.
What happened man, I thought localizations would improve if japanese games and anime would become mainstream. But somehow it went to the exact opposite, what the actual frick happened.
Why are these homosexuals localizing these things if they hate japanese media.
I really fricking miss when the translators and localizers are either devoted fans or people who think that japanese culture is too exotic for westerners so they had to change it (i.e. pokemon rice ball donut)
>Why are these homosexuals localizing these things if they hate japanese media.
The billion dollar question. Make it make sense Ganker...
>Why are these homosexuals localizing these things if they hate japanese media.
Why are game journalists writing about games if they hate gaming culture and gamers?
>Why are game journalists writing about games if they hate gaming culture and gamers?
Because you give the sort of sites that do that hits while shitting on ones that don't
>but the localization doesnt seem too bad besides that Lian character
They're all bad and mischaracterized. Lian is just the most egregious because they made her sound genuinely mentally disabled.
The localization has made for some horrible lines, that's undeniable, but it's not as bad as this thread would have you believe and is far from the biggest problem in this game.
Really, the main issue is the bugs (mainly the recruitment one) and gameplay (and even then, it doesn't make the game bad, but the balance makes a number of characters pointless to use in hard mode) but Ganker would rather talk about how they want all localizers to burn in hell so you'll just keep getting threads like this while anons keep regurgitating the flaws pointed out by one anon that actually played when pressed about why else they don't like the game outside of the localization stuff.
On one hand, it is nice that the main issues can just get patched out/in, but on the other hand the game should get shit for launching in the state that it's in.
This game really does feel like the average PS1 JRPG atm, I'm not talking about the well-known stuff like Xenogears of FF7. This is some proper warts-and-all Thousand Arms level JRPG that really earned it's 7/10 reviews because it has a lot of good but damn near every good point gets countered with some bafflingly archaic decision, this one could be made much better with some patches at the very least.
Hope this studio gets to make another game, because it's actually a really solid foundation to build on, but the devs really need to understand that there's a good reason as to why JRPGs changed some shit over the last three decades. I'm got the feeling that they really wanted to harken back to the good ol' days, but there are ways to make old school JRPGs without actually giving them the same shitty problems most franchises grew out of decades ago. Would recommend to anybody that likes Suikoden or old school JRPGs after it gets patched, but it's definitely skippable right now.
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1 week ago
Anonymous
This game sounds like it has the exact same issues I had with FE Echoes. Faithful to a fault because the director was such a big nostalgiagay that he purposefully left in the trash game design choices from the 90s.
1 week ago
Anonymous
That's a running theme with a lot of these KS games made by the original devs of old franchises. They should be using this opportunity to make what they originally made again, but updated with the lessons learned from the evolution of the genre, but most of them just end up making legally distinct versions of the exact same game that made them famous which usually doesn't fly in 202X.
Now all that being said, this game even in its current state, is still a far better game than Suikoden 4 and 5 imo. But that's not a high bar to clear in my eyes, since I fricking hate those two are actually shit games. Eiyuden beats them by just reaching the dizzying heights of "okay".
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Thousand Arms
Damn now thats a game I havent thought of in a while. The Harley Quinn ripoff was the best
1 week ago
Anonymous
I still want to frick Nelsha.
1 week ago
Anonymous
its probably not going to happen, but imagine if they did some shit like workshop support, adding custom heroes and such, now that would be innovation for a JRPG
>i dont think they will do a re-localization, and i dont know if one is allowed to edit an existing localization
Plenty of games added revised translations like Ys 8 which got shat on for the low effort "Big Hole" translation and Astlibra which polished up the translation for the Switch release and backported it to PC.
>unite attacks suck, you use 2+ characters to do one character's worth of damage >runes mostly suck, because magic is poorly balanced >magic is so laughable that a high-cost MP spells will deal 20 points of damage more than a character's REGULAR attack, if not less in some instances >characters more often than not have irredeemable stats and are glorified benchfodder, I can't recall a Suikoden where this was that bad >script is bland, there is no cohension or connection to the world at large, the lack of something like True Runes leaves a gaping hole in the story and MC motivation >MC has no real reason to do what he's doing, he's doing it all because he likes meddling. I guess the bad guys burned his town down? Except not really, all the civvies got evacuated and the town can be returned to almost immediately and there is no damage >localization is cringe >no stakes and did I mention no real connection of anyone or anything? you just go through the motions
This game is absolute dogshit. The localization is nothing compared to how poorly half-baked this game is.
>Troonlater mad that AI might actually replace them (be it for quality reasons or simply as a cost cutting measure) >In acts of rebellion they go full mask off and try to take down as many japanese games as possible
Some localizers want to be writers and think they are better
Some localizers are political activists and put their politics into things
Some localizers have to convert things to American (californian) sensibilities
Some localizers are all of the above
>do a lot of extra work because rather than make the game you truly want, you want to make something you can also sell
Pokemon Modders don't have this problem. They've got an rpg to work with with about 900-1000 partners, and a 18-way RPS system, really puts your ,mediocre shovelware with writing worse than highschool musical in perspective. If they wanted to produce a product that's the labor of love, they would not have asked money for it, or ever claimed it was finished.
I found out that these freaked localizers fricked Yoshitaka Murayama's game after he died, Why are they so subhuman just like they did to batman's voice actor
I really wish Ganker was a place to talk about games without resorting to 6th grade "I hate thing because it's popular" phase. If you lived in a vacuum and only visited Ganker you would think there wasn't a good game in existence.
Finally, another one for the chart (and not due to the translation but because the game itself sucks dicks and that's why the translation scandal overshadowed everything else about it).
>The result is worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam
That's just wrong, outside of truly exceptional cases like Hollow Knight it mogs most of them
Bloodstained wasn't bad, it did everything it set out to do and wasn't held back by archaic design choice (outside of Iga's personal flaw of making something way to obtuse unless you've played his games) it got two b***hin side games that are the best not classivania outside of playing old school CV games.
And Devil's third was fricked by publishers I don't even flaut oatmeal man for how it turned out
Bloodstained was decent but has there even been a genuinely good game that marketed itself as a "spiritual successor" or "from the makers of [good game]"
Bloodstained was amazing and Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair was fun
It's decent but nothing more than that.
Because being "just decent" as [...] says is unforgivable
>$5 million budget >Ex-Konami personal >6+ years of work >The result is worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam
first of all Bloodstained is easily one of the best Metroidvanias ever made, it surpasses the original Castlevanias in terms of gameplay and content, only really falling behind in terms of graphics, also
>$5 million budget
you seriously think this is a lot for a game?
>The result is worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam
name 5 better Metroidvanias on Steam so i can tell you how garbage your taste is
>Bloodstained is easily one of the best Metroidvanias ever mad
it's worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam.
>name 5 better Metroidvanias
Search the word "Metroidvania" on the Steam website; I guarantee that the first fifty results are infinitely superior to Bloodstained.
Bloodstained was amazing and Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair was fun
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first of all Bloodstained is easily one of the best Metroidvanias ever made, it surpasses the original Castlevanias in terms of gameplay and content, only really falling behind in terms of graphics, also
>$5 million budget
you seriously think this is a lot for a game?
>The result is worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam
name 5 better Metroidvanias on Steam so i can tell you how garbage your taste is
>Blasphemous 1
lol no >Blasphemous 2
didnt play >Hollow Knight
backlog >The Mummy Demastered
didnt play >Shadow Complex
backlog >Shantae (All of them)
you have the most worthless taste imaginable, every single Shantae game is mediocre, not even the pirate's curse escapes that mediocrity
>All of them have something new or unique to bring to the table.
oh please do tell me what fricking thing Shantae brought to the table, or Blasphemous for that matter
>Bloodstained was derivative at best.
Iga was paid to make an Igavania and he made the best Igavania so far, teres tons of varied enemies and countless pieces of equipment and shards you can equip, i guarantee you and me finished the game with completely different builds (assuming you even finished the game), not to mention the adition of side quests, crafting, re-spawning chests, on top of the RPG elements and the shard system drastically decrease the tedium of backtracking, you are ALWAYS making progress, which isnt something i can say about Blasphemous and SPECIALLY Shantae, because atleast the combat in Blasphemous is good, Shantae has shit combat on top of low tier enemies often surviving more than one hit even by the end game, so you get slowed down by those shitstains while backtracking and you hardly get anything for the trouble
It's really weird how >KS/Remake game made by the exact same devs usually turns out bad to mediocre with a couple glowing exceptions
while >Game made by a team of fans who liked the original old game makes something that builds off of the concept into something better with some dogshit exceptions
is a thing.
I guess that's what happens when you're too attached to a project?
Nah.
Videogames are a team effort and those games were classic thanks to a good talented team having an unified vision.
The ones who lead those crowdfunding projects are simply a couple people from those teams who took the credit for the entire team's effort and are just parasites coasting on the classic game's prestige.
How common is it for modern JRPG translated lines to have a completely different context compared to the original scripts?
I saw the line comparisons for this game, and in some lines, the characters look like they are talking about completely different topics.
I have familiarity with Final Fantasy mistranslations, but generally, the characters were still referring to the same topics in English and Japanese. Why would translators have this much freedom to completely write a new script altogether?
When people are so worthless they let themselves be defined on sucking wiener or having had their wiener removed, they NEED to announce it to the world at every single opportunity regardless if it's relevant to anything else.
You really think you can compare the two localizations? Suikoden 2's localization problems were due to trying to translate the text too literally; it caused a few scenes to feel "off", but the intent behind each scene was clearly communicated.
Localizers often claim that they change shit around in order to make dialogue seem less stiff and more like "what an actual human being might say in conversation," then proceed to make every character sound like a complete caricature. Have they just never actually talked to other human beings?
Bad translations of the past weren't full of leftist political propaganda, leftist language, tumblrspeak, Low T SJW musings, and unironically, current day californian shit.
Bad translations of the past weren't full of leftist political propaganda, leftist language, tumblrspeak, Low T SJW musings, and unironically, current day californian shit.
Both are shit. Stand by your convictions if you're going to (rightfully) b***h about shit localizations
>I don't even remember what was so bad about it.
Nothing, people who try to attack all localizations for not being "100% faithful" are part of the reason why they do not improve across the board. Trying to put UO's localization (actually good) in the same category as Eiyuden's (bad) is not constructive feedback.
>japanese person >tanned >sees a Black person
face blindness is a symptom of autism anon, you should see a doctor to prescribe you some heavy medicine to try and get you close to normal
Why did it have to have borderlands-tier dialogue
I'm playing it and I mostly skip the conversations because it's dogshit and not gripping at all.
also: random encounters in 2024, with no way to speed up combat and with unskippable attack animations that must play every time alongside some quippy marvel one liner
worst $80 I spent and I played too long to be able to refund it
Hope to god there's a combat and localization mod fix
A horrible thought just dawned on me. I think the shitty localization was an intentional "throwback" to 90s/early 2000s localizations without realizing people fricking loathed that shit
Because the hack that helped localize it already did that shit with Gotta Protectors
I don't care about chud or gendered golems but some of the character personalities are just insufferable and you can just tell it's localization. like these lines... you can kind of just get a feel for what they were supposed to be, but the final outcome is just so fricking stupid it's aggravating
>I don't care about chud
They are using a word that literally doesnt mean anything to anyone thats not a terminally online moron. thats like rule #1 when translating shit
Let me guess, in the original she uses crude language like the sukeban archetype complete with rolling Rs and what not? Why do these sick in the head Californians think that breaking into baby speech is badass?
The game is ok but it's trying way too old to be oldschool.
Like the item that increases your movement speed on the field is not only not all that hard to miss, but you have to waste an equipment slot to use it? Come on, there's no need to be THAT fricking 1990s game design.
I assumed it was just gays making a big deal out of nothing like they did with Unicorn Overlord's localization.
Doomposters are actually right for once though holy shit. How did this get greenlit by anyone?
>I wonder if they can sue the localization team.
If the localization team presented a more literal translation for review and then inserted their chud troonylation afterwards, then they could absolutely get raped in court for fraud.
Sadly this.
I was never the most excited for this game, but it always looked interesting at the very least. But now I don't to so much to even look at it.
cant wait for a even worse translation to come out only for people to then say Eiyuden Chronicles localization was overblown, repeating the cycle all over again.
I really don't give a shit about the localization, but I am kind of annoyed on the overreliance on having the same QoL as a classic PS2 RPG. As in not much.
A lot of the annoyances get removed or improved on with new items and unlockables but sometimes just using them has a restriction, like you can only one at a time.
And
The game is ok but it's trying way too old to be oldschool.
Like the item that increases your movement speed on the field is not only not all that hard to miss, but you have to waste an equipment slot to use it? Come on, there's no need to be THAT fricking 1990s game design.
I haven't gotten far in, but it's really bland thus far. The only character I can muster up the slightest interest in fricked off from my party a couple hours ago, and now I'm stuck with the world's most generic protagonist and a bunch of interchangeable party members who all talk like a bunch of morons thanks to the localization.
I was hoping the story would pick up, but reading other anons' impressions of it have pretty much killed that hope.
I feel like there's definitely a bunch of bad faith false flag c**ts involved in translation discussions, they're the ones who insist on using idiotic infantile insults like "lolcowlizers" and sap at the legitimacy of any claims as a result
>Work yourself to death creating alabor of love for all to enjoy.
>Localizers shit it up and your opus becomes a fricking meme.
Black person on the cover, should have seen it coming.
It was going to be different this time ! I am Japanese !
why are you racist?
you made me, i just wanted to play vidya
thats entirely on you
bot
I dunno this guy seems more like a bot to me
>tfw the worlds worst dictator is going to be a disgruntled gamer
Boris!?
To get (you)s
Billy-Bob, this website is dedicated to Japanese culture, not redneck culture. Not sure why Ganker, /k/, and /misc/ still exist, but you have the wrong impression. Trailer-trash is not accepted here.
>Billy-Bob-ACK!
>being so pathetic and weak, your opponent's rage evaporates and he lets you go after a couple light slaps
I'd kms
I hate Black folk
>this website is dedicated to Japanese culture
then why are you here defending it being defaced, Era-kun?
Black folk are not japanese culture
"chud" is not japanese culture
the game flopped, you lost and got raped
>Black folk are not japanese culture
explain Barret Wallace
Did you play Suikoden? Of course you didn't, you homosexuals don't play games.
>chud
>goobergate
why are millennials still stuck in kindergarten
Please tell me that pic is fake.
It's not only real it isn't even the worst of it.
>it isn't even the worst of it.
I don't think there's something even worse than unironically putting in chud. The game is a laughing stock now
Even if I was a lefty I'd be put off by that. What total immersion breaking bs.
You have to understand that the left views the entire world through the lens of territory capture. It is good because it signals it is one of their spaces.
It's clearly a reference to Working Designs translations, you chud.
So who are the vandalizers this time, 8-4 again I'm guessing?
yep
is there a steam list full of 8-4 translated games?
chud is not even a real word
Oh nooooooo
pffahahaha now tell me how this is actually a 'good change', tourist apologist homosexuals. You're always in these threads so I know you're here.
LMAO i can't believe chud is finally used i video games
i don't give a shit about this troony game but am open for normalizing the word ''chud'' all the seething would be worth it
>burn everything down!
Chaosgays get the rope, just like transhomosexuals.
How do these extremists manage to become japanese localizers?
The long march truly is amazing. There is nothing that will be left undefiled. It is a shame too. Humanity could have been great and created great art, but they will never be allowed to.
The funny part is they can't even read Japanese, they get hired via nepotism to spread their ideology. It's a literal cult.
they don't get paid enough to do a good job
>implying good pay would fix anything
explain why it's good that a fantasy person is aware of the 1980's film C.H.U.D. and its spawning of a term used by terminally online Twitter morons.
I'll wait
Why are you so triggered by the word chud?
that wasn't the question, you deflecting troony.
Seethe chud you are the laughing stock of the world gaming isn't your hobby anymore:)
>still refusing to answer the question
I accept your concession, loser. Do better next time.
>t. Chud
Make youe own games incel 🙂
>Make youe
Yo loat chud:)
you boughted da gam sir??
>captcha: MMMMH
Why are you so triggered by the word troony?
It's ok when it's a fan translation
I'm pretty sure """her""" bf already knows.
>Translator
>Trans
hmmm may be related haha...
If only people online were still so willing to bully these morons off projects.
I'll wait on a fan retranslation. troonyslators really have going in full force as of late. Wouldn't surprise me they're actively doing this not just because they suck at their job and want to push shit, but actively hate Japan and want to shit all over their work.
All the people that do fan translations have drank the kool-aid. I've seen many fan translations recently that are full woke.
Sad., but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Wokeshit and troonyism is a brainworm that works its way into so much shit either because people are weak-willed and won't stand up against or ignore it. Either that or they troon out themselves. Someone please just end this nonsense. Mental illness should not be allowed like this much less celebrated.
I think they know they're getting pushed out soon by AI so they stopped trying to sneak it in and are just overtly changing things for the worse now.
>I think they know they're getting pushed out soon by AI
They know, and rather than just changing shit to spite fans, they're pumping out shitty translations in protest to the industry that's set to replace them. Absolutely brainrotted toxic individuals.
>I think they know they're getting pushed out soon by A
the ai that will be uised will always be woke too and you know that
I honestly kind of doubt it, China will release unpozzed AI and everyone will flock to that instead. I think Tiktok has the west spooked because they could witness that on a mass scale as everyone lets China spy on them instead in the future and Tiktok made A LOT of people pro Palestine so anything that allows China to spread "propaganda" instead of them is going to be seen as a threat.
They might actually have to acquiesce or else they threaten to have an entire generation growing up as sinophiles.
But why? what the frick is happening all of a sudden?
>all of a sudden
Its always been happening. People are just paying more attention now because these translator homosexuals are proudly advertising the fact they are doing it + the advent of AI translation possibilities has brought the discussion to the forefront
I hope Brian Gray gets hit by a train.
>Brian Gray
:^))
ok the goblinous thing was funny
What's the punchline?
No.
>mfw I put the game on my ignore list because groid in the cover art
>find out about this shit later
sometimes you just know when a game is going to be filled with trash
kek, I feel sorry for EN only bros. Literally EN gets the worst translation everytime. If you can't learn JP learn something easier like french or spanish, at least you get a more accurate translation.
They used the English translation as the base for every non Asian language translation.
What in the actual frick? How does this shit end up in a released game? Is there no one keeping an eye on the quality of the translation and reining these morons in?
You’d think Japan would know better by now.
You put your fricking trust in the team in a language YOU DO NOT SPEAK to do a good job as you are trying to rush a now set deadline with a publisher because you underestimated the costs of your game. Eiyuden Chronicles, for some reason, was mismanaged and the translation seems to be the only culprit and at least that can be fixed.
>work yourself to death making a game with heavy emphasis on the narrative
>commie localizers put reddit buzzwords all over it
This is why Souls story works so well.
It has much less dialogue and English is the default language.
I didn't hear about this it looks interesting.
Nevermind.
>uses a Ganker-created term
Ohh noonnoonoo
If this bother you I really have nothing to say to you, like this is such a small fricking thing.
>Hey let's put this piece of contemporary political jargon into this completely removed from reality fantasy game
Always a winner.
>chud lingo from resetera, kiwifarms etc
>in a fantasy game
>Rub-a-dub-dub, don't be a flub
>commie references brainrot
>inserting gender jokes in otherwise a harmless scene
>(After the screen goes black)
>she starts to speak like a fricking Black person
>"to keep YO' HANDS... outta my zone. Yeah?"
>"Or did I breaka your widdle heady wid my big big words?"
>"Farthead"
Too many reddit-tier commie jokes inserted just for the sake of ruining characterization and mood of the game as well as overall enjoyment of the players. I can't even take this seriously. These woke translators need to get off social media, touch some fricking grass outside, and be shot down a peg or two. Fricking incompetent losers, get off my hobby.
This is unironically the reason I decided not to pick the game up. I've seen bad localizations before, put up with them even, but "chud" is fricking ridiculous.
Then again it's not like it's two furries yiffing it up in place of an actual conversation. Fire Emblem
>contains Ganker lingo
>Ganker hates it
>game set in antiquity in China
>everyone talks like a terminally online redditor
Have you ever heard of context
yikes
Why cant they just hire jeets whose only source of learning english is from online course?
It's literally cheaper and less damaging to the game too
hopefully before thread dies:
what tool is this, that lets you look up JP text?
It just means musclebrained so the only problem is the chud part.
Hilarious
The game is bad
Why did it fail in JP even with a untouched script?
This game was doomed.
>Why did it fail in JP even with a untouched script?
Random encounters filter zoomers and boomers alike. Literally no one has time for that shit anymore, even Dragon Quest shifted over to visible encounters. I tried replaying Skies of Arcadia and it aged like shit with that ridiculous encounter rate. Meanwhile Chrono Trigger aged like fine wine.
The key isn't to remove them but to make them able to be changed like Bravely Default. If even Squeer could figure it out no one else has any excuse.
Overworld encounters are trash for zoomers with ADHD.
>Overworld encounters are trash for zoomers with ADHD.
Being able to run past encounters is a good thing, it can prevent you from getting over-leveled, and a lot of games with visible encounters will make enemies chase you or avoid you depending on the level difference, which is a neat way of gauging how ready your are for a boss. There's nothing zoomer about wanting visible encounters. If devs trully wanted to entertain zoomers, then they'd just add a jump button that doesn't do anything like in Star Ocean 6
Seems to me like his "opus" is a carbon copy of Suikoden II with some name changes, that's also inferior to the original despite releasing 20+ years later.
Hey, I was pretty sure that Tuta was a girl in S2 until S3 came out and revealed he was actually a guy.
I was never under the impression tuta was a girl.
everything about this game is shit
the localization is only a part of it
>overwork yourself so hard you fricking die in your 40s
>localizers replace your work with leftist memes and rick & morty references
you could make your samegayging a little less obvious, schizo
>Game so bad only moronic no-life shitposter making the thread non-stop shilling this game in the last 48 hours.
Oh no, they're trying to stop us, fellow chuds!
Really putting the juden in eiyuuden
even the jrpg subreddit was doing damage control for them. saw them all dogpile one person who mentioned not buying it because of the translation.
link
Is this supposed to come as some kind of shock? Reddit has quite literally been a leftist echo chamber for several years.
Holy shit! those mod morons on that discord will ruin the sales even more. LMAO!
>there are discord court rooms for bans
>for bans from a video game
>for bans for a jrpg
>for bans for a israelitestarter
lmao
>Don't like it? Banned.
DING DONG BANNU
RINE ENDS HERE
Everyone knows shitting on localizations is a dog whistle for being a chud. You're just (correctly) being filtered.
>unite attacks suck, you use 2+ characters to do one character's worth of damage
>runes mostly suck, because magic is poorly balanced
>magic is so laughable that a high-cost MP spells will deal 20 points of damage more than a character's REGULAR attack, if not less in some instances
>characters more often than not have irredeemable stats and are glorified benchfodder, I can't recall a Suikoden where this was that bad
>script is bland, there is no cohension or connection to the world at large, the lack of something like True Runes leaves a gaping hole in the story and MC motivation
>MC has no real reason to do what he's doing, he's doing it all because he likes meddling. I guess the bad guys burned his town down? Except not really, all the civvies got evacuated and the town can be returned to almost immediately and there is no damage
>localization is cringe
>no stakes and did I mention no real connection of anyone or anything? you just go through the motions
This game is absolute dogshit. The localization is nothing compared to how poorly half-baked this game is.
>MC has no real reason to do what he's doing
Did you miss His village being burned down by the bad guy?
the village that had no deaths and they started rebuilding the moment he left?
>I guess the bad guys burned his town down? Except not really, all the civvies got evacuated and the town can be returned to almost immediately and there is no damage
Did you miss the part where that was addressed in the post you replied to?
>I can't recall a Suikoden where this was that bad
All of them?
Damn, I got an inkling the game wouldn't live up to expectations because the spinoff did a terrible job with world building. Lenses are not a good substitute for runes, they feel too artificial compared to runes, which felt like a primeval force, probably due in part to people having rune-lens gauntlets or whatever instead of having an innate number of "slots" in their soul to accommodate runes. Balance wasn't the greatest in the old games, because the characters with three open slots could generally be tweaked to outperform anyone else, but some team attacks made the lower slot characters worth using, if not for battle effectiveness, then for flavor. I'll muscle my way through the game to eke out whatever enjoyment I can, and I pray the Shadow Hearts successor that was co-funded with this game isn't also a wet fart.
>that was co-funded with this game isn't also a wet fart
It was with the Wild Arms game, not this one.
That raises my hopes a bit that it'll be good.
i'll be honest with you bros. i replayed through all the mainline suikodens last year in preparation for this game, only to drop it after 8 hours. shit really is just fricked and inferior to systems created 25+ years ago, and i'd even forgive the localization if the game was good, but it sure as frick isn't.
i'll hope they fix the game or some autists get together and make a fanpatch or something later, but i'm done for now.
if armed fantasia and penny blood suck, i'll fricking kill myself
forgot a pic. i happily played through suikoden 5 for a third time, and i'd honestly replay suikoden 4 before i continue playing this game
>That level of burn
Murayama must be rolling in his grave bro...
To be fair, Suikoden 5 is actually a really good game, despite the 10-hour prologue.
Yeah, it's derivative of Suikoden 2 but the assassination scene was genuinely well-done and I liked all the fake out endings.
I feel like Suikoden 5 tried to take the important aspects of 2 and frame them into its own narrative and gameplay systems. Eiyuden feels like it is trying to copy 2 without understanding what made it work.
Some parts of 5 come off as too much of a 2 try-hard but even then it still had real stakes and did a good job of setting up the personal meaning to (You) with its long prologue. It's telling as hell that no one who talked about Eiyuden's story so far even said anything nice about that.
I forgive them being a bit try-hard in some places after the disaster that was Suikoden 4 just so they had some connective tissue to link 5 with 1 and 2.
Yeah, Suikoden 4 was pretty shit but Rhapsodia was surprisingly decent.
I should give that a try, I have heard it was a decent game but never got around to playing it.
Make sure to load your Suikoden 4 file.
yeah that's what fricks with me about eiyuden when even compared to 5. the prologue is fricking long but the payoff is quite good, and the stakes are set very high; in eiyuden, your village gets put slightly on fire, no one dies, the empire walks into a town and just chills, and then you go back to your comfy town and chill for 2 weeks. 5 sets up what you are about to lose and do end up losing pretty well
>That moment when you finally get to see the full context behind Georg's assassination of the tyrant Queen
Frick, still makes me tear up.
yep, i love that scene, that was so good
I liked that scene too because it showed how much of a serious threat the Sun Rune was.
>get entrusted by your best bro to kill not only the queen, but his wife, if she ever loses control of the sun rune
>understand but still loathe the idea
>the time comes
>still have to be convinced after watching her atomize her husband
>spend most of the game unable to figure out how to tell their son amidst all the actually true rumors that you killed the queen
georg had a rough job
Suikoden 5 had hands down one of the harshest depictions of what it means to be close to a True Rune and the consequences to people surrounding it.
Suikoden V duels gave me a ryona fetish
Meanwhile
>Lens lens lens lens lens
>Rub a dub dub thanks for the chuds
nah you're just a gay moron. Sorry.
I don't follow any shit but what the frick this is?
Shitty roguelike we got instead of a Shadow Hearts game.
pretty much this.
apparently not a bad game but it's not the real game so i don't give a frick about it
Indie backed israelitestarter games tend to have a smaller game accompanying them. Eiyuuden had Rising, Bloodstained had that 16-bit sidescroller.
but wasn't the whole point to have 2 games? I kind of get Blood and Eiyuuden trying to pacify their paypiggies, but this screams feature creep
Yes, and they still do updates in their twitter anyway. I dont know what indie jp hame started the trend, but they always do a smaller game first. Im more interested with the Wild Arms knockoff but really, we wont be seeing any real, tangible update from both of these titles until 2026
>Wild Arms knockoff
I swear you're joking but at the same time I know you're not
Even if its made by the same guys, I consider it a knockoff. It also isnt helping that its leaning less on the wild west themes of the first 3 games, and more on the dedolate wasteland magicpunk themes of the 4th and 5th games
So you consider might no 9 a mainline mega man game because inafune worked on it?
oh fug I misread it as Armed Fantasia/Wild Arms was also getting some shitty rouglite prequel
>Im more interested with the Wild Arms knockoff
I'd cream my pants if the smaller not-wild-arms game is a knockoff of wild arms tactics.
yeah i never care about their little prologue games or whatever they make, i just want the finished products i backed. some people might like them, i don't, so i just ignore them
I’m so glad I decided to skip this, I feel so vindicated.
>black girl in the cover
He only has himself to blame.
RUB-A-DUB-DUB CHUD
our chud won
Damn is this game just not worth playing then? I need a gap filler between UO and SMT V... kino year so far but that's sad
Have you played Infinite Wealth?
Kiryu looks so sterrible with that cringe homosexual haircut.
Yup. Infinite Wealth and Rebirth. Skipped out on Reload since I've already played FES like 2 times back in the day, and nothing new interests me aside from the nicer modern portraits.
>Like a Zoomer Infinite Yong
Yakuza died with 8. Tomino is gone and they are turning it into a joke with the crazy haired man and shitty eceleb voice actors.
SaGa Emerald Beyond, perhaps? It is coming out in two days.
Why not try sunk into FF14? That's about 600hrs of very good RPG story.
It’s 1 hour of good rpg story that gets retconned anyway
not at the moment, for sure. highly recommend reverse collapse if you're any at all interested in trpgs or srpgs. story's great too
Why are chuds so mad about good translations?
I see no good translations here.
what is a chud anyway
Us.
Like all leftist insults it's a baby sound means "weird or ugly person" because they aren't allowed to call anyone anything actually biting.
What is wrong here?
Rick and Morty outdated meme reference. A series that isn't even popular anymore.
Do you think "rub-a-dub-dub" is Rick's "wubba-lubba dub dub" thing? Are you that moronic and obsessed for something to hate?
>he doesnt recognize it as a simpsons reference and Ganker fansub meme from 2009
Come the frick on
moron.
Rub-a-dub-dub is a nursey rhyme reference zoomer
Think it's just ESLs. Genuinely sad.
>he doesn't rub-a-dub-dub thanks for the grub
newbie. It's still a bad localization choice though. She's supposed to be a genki tomboy not a sassy moron.
Damn that's an old ass fricking meme
What a beautiful Duwang!
inserting jokes where jokes don't originally exist is probably the biggest grievance i have with the localizers. actual zoomer tier social media brainrot, pandering to people with 5 second attention spans.
This is actually good localization, meaning is intact, and the localizers are taking the piss at the people who usually call them out. I laughed.
have a nice day, Honeywood cultist.
I laughing too.
Let's see who's laughing last
>pic
Mimimi announced it'd shut down even before releasing Cursed Crew. The game was still inferior to Shadow Tactics, true, but it didn't kill the studio.
>Literally no one has time for that shit anymore, even Dragon Quest shifted over to visible encounters.
They could have taken some ideas from other games with random battles, for example Wild ARMs 3 allows you to skip them by consuming an encounter gauge that refills by either fighting or picking up tokens.
That game was gonna bomb and they knew it beforehand.
>This is actually good localization
>I am a gay homosexual because my uncle diddled me as a kid and I am moronic and have a sub 80 I.Q. and sometimes brain leaks out of my ear
tee hee don't mind me, just localizing and spicing up your post
>I laughed
Hope you purchased twice or thrice too, to make up for those who didn't laugh 🙂
Ever heard the story about the boy who cried wolf?
>rub-a-dub-dub, don't be a flub
I can't speak or write japanese, but I can write and speak english but I don't understand what this means given the context, the text on the furthest right I can understand but not the localized text
Sar please can we get redeemed eiyuden?
The context is that she literally rubs her gauntlet like a genie bottle to make it work. Never present your knowledge OF English as actually knowing English, you dumb ESL.
why not just have a rubbing sound?
There is a rubbing sound, she onomatopoeias it.
she could've instead said that "it usually works when I'm playing with it myself" as that would've fit with her character since she's a prostitute who wants to get into nowa's pants
The pronoun "it" after "playing" ruins the double entedre. How bout you go home and get your shine box, leave the thot patrolling to the pros.
>controller drift is insane on the gamepass
anyone found a way to fix it?
i know on steam you can adjust controller deadzones on their steam controller thing.
Nothing wrong with these either...
>well that was a thing
Shut up Whedonite scum.
that was fine, until the last line, holy shit, the chud thing is whatever, its even funny watching you morons get your panties on a twist over, however
>Well, THAT was a thing
now thats fricking cringe
>the chud thing is whatever
I wonder who could be behind this post?
someone who isnt perpetually offended by everything
i cant stand you fricking stupid localizers, stop putting words in my mouth... hes behind me isnt he?
No one is offended by chud. If anything, I'm offended by your shit taste and willingness to eat up any moronic slop you're served.
>No one is offended by chud.
is that why theres like 4 threads about that singular line? because you are not offended? yeah, good to know
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE moronic SHIT IN GAMES YOU ARE OFFENDED BY IT GUESS I WIN
sorry honey, it doesn't work like that. This isn't your echo chamber.
yup, its clearly your echo chamber
like i said, getting this kind of reaction doesnt really spell "IM NOT OFFENDED!", neither is your insistence that you are not offended
look honey, sweety, I know you only have the one angle and you're going to try to double and triple down on it, but it's just not working.
look sugar, cutie pie, you are still not convincing me you are not mad, but by all means, continue to respond, is entertaining
the fact they added "goblinous" to the dictionary as a last resort, you'd expect a last resort to have an actual effect on the problem at hand
man, comedy is fun to explain
I still don't understand the joke. Maybe I need to consume more Big Bang Theory to really "get it"
>I'll just copy him
honey, guess you are really the upset one after all?
babe, dont mistake amusement with being upset
irony
>someone who isnt perpetually offended
Offense isn't the issue. It would be equally awful if they had inserted "chad" or "troon" or "s-boy" or whatever into it. Keep that shit out of the games unless it's specifically internet-lingo in the original.
ok that angle i can understand
>now thats fricking cringe
lemme localize that for you.
>Well, THAT was cringe.
>now THATS fricking cringe
cringe
These translators translate like they talk.
>Well THAT was a thing
Who the frick writes this shit?
Der ewige Kalifornier.
The lam recruitment bug got an unofficial fix - it is in the /vrpg/ thread.
It's surreal how hard they go out of their way to make sure women are never seen as weak. They specifically reword it so they don't use the word "protect" because that implies she's weaker than the man. Like every localization does this now, to the point where entire characters are rewritten.
Western women are a cancer.
That is a dude.
Might as well be one.
>Australia
Explain yourselves, bog/a/ns.
>Disabled, neurodivergent, queer
This just means she's a regular roastie with OCD and anxiety and declared herself bisexual because there are no consequences for a woman doing so.
I love how the idea that maybe they shouldn't be bringing that over in the first place doesn't cross their mind. They can't leave it alone, they MUST ruin something else that somebody made instead of making something themselves to appeal to those western women. Those that do try to appeal to western women have no one buy their games while fujos will go play fan translated otome games instead that give them the content that they want. Almost like people are people and liking things is universal.
I swear there's no one more racist than white women and transsexuals, apparently Japanese women are degenerates unlike western women so their sicko shit needs to toned down for civilized romance fans.
Subhumans like this make me absolutely livid. Scribbling all over an artist's work like that is disgraceful. Vandalising degenerate c**ts I hate them.
man, if thats your conclusion, your brain must be rotten beyond salvation
anon we've had translators explicitly state that's the case. they are instructed not to make women appear weak. it was really bad in triangle strategy.
>rub a dub dub (thanks for the grub bub)
Is commie now doing games localisations?
Pfffttt hahaha ha
Looks good
>Black personmongrel haircut, shades and a chinese sword
jesus christ i thought it was only one of these apes i didnt expect more of them and especially not like this. that guy reminds me of the black guy from yiik
I'M A SHARK!
SUCK MY DICK!
The shitty tumblr art, even on the prequel they put out was always a red flag
frick yourself with a knife
The only acceptable squad
>leaving out the fox wife
ngmi
Stop posting pictures of my wife.
Literal autism, kys. If it said that in English you would say it's reddit humor or some conspiracy against you because it depicts women as strong.
Suikoden was always an overrated series. Grandia 1&2 are better than any Suikoden. Breath of Fire 3 and 4 are better than any Suikoden. Star Ocean and Tales games are better than Suikoden.
Most of these examples arent bad at all and nobody would have even remarked about them before this autistic line by line comparison thing started up.
But using shit like chud pop culture refs is gay as shit
Basically my thoughts. The biggest issue is they're too obsessed with giving characters funny speech patterns
ugly subhuman? i'm good thanks
Learning Japanese to play Dragon Quest was probably one of the best things I did with my free time. It's not gonna get better anons.
AI translation is my only hope.
how long did it take you to learn Japanese so you can play JRPGs?
I think I started playing easy games like Pokemon and Dragon Quest Monsters after a year. After two and a half I would say that I could understand most games I tried
How'd you study?
Gamers are easy targets. We're hard to like because we're anti social and/or autistic as frick.
And that's also why during Cold War, McCarthy went after the Hollywood writers; they were all anti social, gay, autistic and liberal. Plus no one gave a shit about them. At first he tried to go after movie stars but Americans fricking worship them and wouldn't allow them to be slandered or accused of being Communist.
Anyways, gamers have finally had enough and we're pushing back against Sweet Baby Inc, DEI, troony shit, etc.
Now in order to get their attention and force change then we're going to have to hit them where it hurts: in the wallet.
And some examples are going to have to be made to show other developers and publishers what's going to happen if they keep trying to force this shit on us.
Do your part!
McCarthy was right and the Rosenbergs's execution was just.
I'm enjoying it.
Dumb genki girl or oujousama, Ganker?
The game clearly teases you with both
Cute boy
>Spoiler
...No way, right?
yep
>Draw a girl
>Call it a boy
Tranime and its consequences have been a disaster.
This looks like suikoden, what's the deal here, gimme a tl;dr
The end of tranime Black person slop is almost here
>I need my video games to be bland and boring direct translations
Heh, fools. You're as bland on the inside as you are on the outside.
I bet you eat plain spaghetti without sauce.
I bet you eat sandwiches without crust.
I bet you eat pizza without toppings.
I bet you eat french fries without ketchup.
I bet you eat PB&Js without the peanut butter.
I bet you eat plain tortilla chips.
I bet you eat the grains in Lucky Charms and leave the marshmallows.
I bet you eat chili without beans.
I bet you eat rice. Just rice.
I bet you eat macaroni without the cheese.
I bet you eat chocolate chip cookies without the chocolate.
I bet you eat hot dogs without toppings.
I bet you eat soup.
Honestly, you guys are truly pathetic. An utter disgrace. Beyond redemption. May god have mercy on your soulless translations.
I do eat french fries without ketchup, though.
fair, ketchup is disgusting
>I bet you eat pizza without toppings.
>I bet you eat french fries without ketchup.
>I bet you eat plain tortilla chips.
>I bet you eat rice. Just rice.
>I bet you eat chili without beans.
>I bet you eat chocolate chip cookies without the chocolate.
>I bet you eat soup.
I do these things.
>I bet you eat plain spaghetti without sauce.
I did this with lasagna noodles when I was younger. Just the noodles with salt and pepper. I'll also raise you 1 more, when I was younger I ate hotdogs and hamburgers without any meat. Just a roll with ketchup, pickles, and onions. Get on my level of autism.
I eat pickles and onions by themselves sometimes.
With no meat and just ketchup and a raw bun sounds kinda nasty, tho.
I was like 7. It tasted sweet with the onions and ketchup so that was enough. I grew out of that since then.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOUP
>dialogue has words like "chud" and "goobergate"
total global thermonuclear war can't come soon enough
Japan lost WW2, cope
Yeah the good guys lost.
Only to have your legacy pissed on by leftist scum trying to dunk on chuds. Truly a shamfur dispray.
I'd sue 8-4 under the circumstances.
You don't understand, they MUST punch down on the neurodivergent and abuse their position of power to do it. They will laugh that they upset all the autistic people too, absolute sacks of shit that pretend to take the high road when they're human garbage. Imagine anyone doing that in real life, going to a crowd of autistic people and smashing and defacing something they like and then insulting them after. These localizers are actual psychopaths that would be cancelled for their behavior if anyone knew the extent of what they were doing.
Poor guy. He should have lost weight and touched grass.
So... other than the translations, is it, dare I say, fun?
God! I wish I was Freyjadour Falenas!
The amount of wincest I'd experience with mommy, aunty and sis would be godly!
not really. it's broken at the moment and the mp system is inferior to the traditional rune system, even if magic wasn't broken (in a bad way). definitely a negative as i mostly enjoyed magic heavy parties, but even the short and mid range characters don't feel as good to play with.
Why the hell does a JRPG made at this point of the century not come with a text log.
Saw the reviews, there are a whole bunch of 5/10's and 6/10's.
I knew suikoden was always shite but i'm glad that other people are finally realising this.
nah, they're still good and people still love them moronic contrarian shithead. This game has no effect on that.
Stay mad.
>ITT, people who will never play the game and never intended to play the game get mad about stuff they don't actually care about
I was going to get it
I won't now.
You can die angry over it.
6/10 trash games don't deserve mentally ill fans doing it for free, but yet, here you are.
i played the game
i'm mad about it
I pirated it, played 2 minutes and decided I should go play suikoden instead
I guess the localizers' slack group found the thread... Everything you moronic Black folk touch turns to shit.
concern trolls need to all be put to death
Chuds
I don't care about translation bs, is the game at least better than 3/4?
seeing as you have no standards at all
no not even to your garbage ass taste
It's a reskinned Suikoden II with shit optimisation and a bad magic system. Might as well replay 5.
>major recurring mechanic of your series is a cool magic system
>abandon it
>replace it with a shittier one and make the magic also shit
t-thanks
Its Suikoden 2-2 with all the ups and downs that entails including balancing issues and lack of QoL features that came with JRPGs during the mid 2010s
i don't care about whatever qol features people think it's lacking, if you directly compare it to the ps1 suikodens it plays like those games came AFTER eiyuden.
>and lack of QoL features
Is an easy to navigate Menu a QoL feature? Holy shit is it a pain in the ass to change anything in the party. frick this style over substance bullshit, if I have to navigate with bumpers AND triggers then it's a shit menu. Just give me basic ass glossary I can navigate with the dpad and A+B buttons, Jesus
Don't blame me for that shit. *I* like good menu navigation.
3 no, 4 kind of, but i'd still replay 4 over this at the moment. i guess it has the potential to be improved gameplay wise
I trust your opinion anon, if you had to place Eiyuden on a scale where would it go?
For me the series is 2>5/1>Tactics>4>3
that's actually really close to how i feel about the games. i'm weird about 3 and 4 and my mind can change on them from time to time, and i like 4 more than most people. from what i've played i would place it around 3 or 4 subjectively. it feels like things just aren't working properly and it fricks with how the game feels to play, and i think the opening hours are weaker than the rest of the series.
2>5>1>tactics>3/4/eiyuden if i had to think about it and place it right now.
Based, thanks. I'll hold off on it for now in hopes they improve the game or I'll get it when it drops to $20.
Its one of those cases where the game that marketed itself as a 90s PS1 era JRPG like actually IS like them in all the good and bad ways
I'd love to delve into the mind of a kickstarter backer of this game.
How much is a person willing to lie to themselves?
fix'd
Rud-a-dud-dud, thanks for the Chud!
>this game flopping and being mocked is a win
lol moronic as frick
>Flopping
Source?
source DEEZ NUTS AHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA
moron
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA GET HIS ASS
>playing game
>having fun
>go to Ganker thread so see what anons think about it now that I've put some time in
>Ganker despises it
I guess I'll just get back to it then.
>having fun
God for you. I wish I had such a low bar that I could be entertained by dogshit, I genuinely do, because that's all that seems to be made nowadays.
Sad.
It certainly isn't the best JRPG I've ever played, but it's far from dogshit.
It's garbage.
>It certainly isn't the best JRPG I've ever played, but it's far from dogshit.
We live in an age of overwhelming choice. There are too many games and not enough time to play them all, even just the good ones. Mediocre games may as well be shit.
Only on the internet will you get people acting like passive aggressive homosexuals because someone is enjoying something.
I'd post the "stop having fun" image if I had it saved.
Can you truly say that you're having fun if you need to come on Ganker of all places to vallidate your experience with positive opinions on the game? If me saying the game is shit sours your opinion, them clearly the game actually is shit and you're just deluding yourself.
>Can you truly say that you're having fun if you need to come on Ganker of all places to vallidate your experience with positive opinions on the game?
nta but it is annoying to enjoy a game and then find out you can't talk about it on the video games board because it tripped one of Ganker's alarms.
Can't say anything about he quality of this game, but from what I've seen today on the catalog, nobody is really talking about it outside of the localization stuff, which is just a vehicle to steer threads into more /misc/shit.
t. Fightangay anon that's seen this song and dance on Ganker too many times.
are you me back when Battletech released?
the only thing that game had was a "they" option in the character creator and the /misc/ chimps went crazy
It should be common knowledge at this point that Ganker is the worst place to talk about games. Never heard of this game before, but now it's got multiple fast threads up because it caught the attention of the average poster on this board.
You either get this, waifu generals or nobody cares and the game's threads die after 50 posts.
You're 100% right, Anon.
Not even defending this game specifically, but if you enjoy a game you should be able to talk about it with other people who do. The amount of people who don't play games but still come into threads about them to complain is fricking insane sometimes.
Some of the best times I've had on this board were times like the XBC2 release when everyone was playing through more or less at a similar pace (or at least, when I wasn't so busy in my life that I was miles behind the crowd) and the discussion was fun, positive, and vibrant, thread after thread for about two weeks before the bulk finished it and posters started being replaced by shitposters.
It's fricking sad when you can't even get that, because a game has triggered some kinda ideological stampede.
>I wish I had such a low bar that I could be entertained by dogshit
Ganker is really the last board that should be talking about having superior tastes in anything.
Did these people see how much everyone hated 4Kids, and use them as an inspiration?
Kids loved 4kids
no kids loved pokemon and yugioh
they would have been fine with actual localizations instead
>Oh cool an Eiyuden chronicle th--
>Another patriot front metokurcuck seethe thread
Goddamn I'm never leaving /vrpg/
>Going to Ganker to talk about vidya
That was your first error
Then where, reddit perhaps, go back there.
good, stay there forever frickboy
What happened man, I thought localizations would improve if japanese games and anime would become mainstream. But somehow it went to the exact opposite, what the actual frick happened.
Why are these homosexuals localizing these things if they hate japanese media.
I really fricking miss when the translators and localizers are either devoted fans or people who think that japanese culture is too exotic for westerners so they had to change it (i.e. pokemon rice ball donut)
>Why are these homosexuals localizing these things if they hate japanese media.
The billion dollar question. Make it make sense Ganker...
nobody else ever would hire them. they would just get real translators
>Why are these homosexuals localizing these things if they hate japanese media.
Why are game journalists writing about games if they hate gaming culture and gamers?
Same deal. Same answer.
>Why are game journalists writing about games if they hate gaming culture and gamers?
Because you give the sort of sites that do that hits while shitting on ones that don't
>people unironically defending 'chud' in a fantasy game localization
lmao
let's just go full modern buzzword, frick it
so has anyone from the company said a word about this or are they busy with the 5 trillion bugs?
Steam jannies are crying atleast
>dev
ok community manager san
Same thing as a dev chud
>valid criticism is negative activity
kek frick off Black person, why even reply that shit in a post where they are saying the game is a masterpiece
maybe im not sweaty enough to really be into JRPGs, but the localization doesnt seem too bad besides that Lian character
id really hate to be a community manager in general, but particularly when the reason for the outrage seems so relatively minor to me
then again as i said, im only an occasional JRPG enjoyer
>but the localization doesnt seem too bad besides that Lian character
They're all bad and mischaracterized. Lian is just the most egregious because they made her sound genuinely mentally disabled.
The localization has made for some horrible lines, that's undeniable, but it's not as bad as this thread would have you believe and is far from the biggest problem in this game.
Really, the main issue is the bugs (mainly the recruitment one) and gameplay (and even then, it doesn't make the game bad, but the balance makes a number of characters pointless to use in hard mode) but Ganker would rather talk about how they want all localizers to burn in hell so you'll just keep getting threads like this while anons keep regurgitating the flaws pointed out by one anon that actually played when pressed about why else they don't like the game outside of the localization stuff.
well, hopefully the gameplay stuff atleast can be patched
i dont think they will do a re-localization, and i dont know if one is allowed to edit an existing localization
On one hand, it is nice that the main issues can just get patched out/in, but on the other hand the game should get shit for launching in the state that it's in.
This game really does feel like the average PS1 JRPG atm, I'm not talking about the well-known stuff like Xenogears of FF7. This is some proper warts-and-all Thousand Arms level JRPG that really earned it's 7/10 reviews because it has a lot of good but damn near every good point gets countered with some bafflingly archaic decision, this one could be made much better with some patches at the very least.
Hope this studio gets to make another game, because it's actually a really solid foundation to build on, but the devs really need to understand that there's a good reason as to why JRPGs changed some shit over the last three decades. I'm got the feeling that they really wanted to harken back to the good ol' days, but there are ways to make old school JRPGs without actually giving them the same shitty problems most franchises grew out of decades ago. Would recommend to anybody that likes Suikoden or old school JRPGs after it gets patched, but it's definitely skippable right now.
Thanks for reading my blog.
This game sounds like it has the exact same issues I had with FE Echoes. Faithful to a fault because the director was such a big nostalgiagay that he purposefully left in the trash game design choices from the 90s.
That's a running theme with a lot of these KS games made by the original devs of old franchises. They should be using this opportunity to make what they originally made again, but updated with the lessons learned from the evolution of the genre, but most of them just end up making legally distinct versions of the exact same game that made them famous which usually doesn't fly in 202X.
Now all that being said, this game even in its current state, is still a far better game than Suikoden 4 and 5 imo. But that's not a high bar to clear in my eyes, since I fricking hate those two are actually shit games. Eiyuden beats them by just reaching the dizzying heights of "okay".
>Thousand Arms
Damn now thats a game I havent thought of in a while. The Harley Quinn ripoff was the best
I still want to frick Nelsha.
its probably not going to happen, but imagine if they did some shit like workshop support, adding custom heroes and such, now that would be innovation for a JRPG
>i dont think they will do a re-localization, and i dont know if one is allowed to edit an existing localization
Plenty of games added revised translations like Ys 8 which got shat on for the low effort "Big Hole" translation and Astlibra which polished up the translation for the Switch release and backported it to PC.
people die all the time
20 people just died while I was trying to solve the captcha
so... hows the gameplay? im considering gifting my lil bro this once it gets on sale
he played the shit out Bravely Default 2, Dragon Quest XI, and is really into turn based JRPGs in general
i usually get him Square Enix games but those bastards rarely have a good sale
i wonder if the gameplay stuff can be fixed with a patch, dunno about the narrative
Get him Unicorn Overlord instead.
Can someone explain to me why they are doing this? What's their purpose? I'm so confused none of this makes logical sense.
>Troonlater mad that AI might actually replace them (be it for quality reasons or simply as a cost cutting measure)
>In acts of rebellion they go full mask off and try to take down as many japanese games as possible
Some localizers want to be writers and think they are better
Some localizers are political activists and put their politics into things
Some localizers have to convert things to American (californian) sensibilities
Some localizers are all of the above
Between this shit and stuff like DEI, why is there so much evil in the world now that no one does anything to stop?
>do a lot of extra work because rather than make the game you truly want, you want to make something you can also sell
Pokemon Modders don't have this problem. They've got an rpg to work with with about 900-1000 partners, and a 18-way RPS system, really puts your ,mediocre shovelware with writing worse than highschool musical in perspective. If they wanted to produce a product that's the labor of love, they would not have asked money for it, or ever claimed it was finished.
>they can only destroy
Are people so moronic they don't understand that reddits and discords are advertising directly controlled by the company?
Yoshitaka Murayama died for this...
KWABOTY!
Question.
Did they reuse any of the unused character art from those fan polls? I need to know for purposes of autism.
Terrible localization aside, the game is pretty buggy, and not very good.
I found out that these freaked localizers fricked Yoshitaka Murayama's game after he died, Why are they so subhuman just like they did to batman's voice actor
I really wish Ganker was a place to talk about games without resorting to 6th grade "I hate thing because it's popular" phase. If you lived in a vacuum and only visited Ganker you would think there wasn't a good game in existence.
any missable achievements?
So if I check the catalog I wont see any threads?
Finally, another one for the chart (and not due to the translation but because the game itself sucks dicks and that's why the translation scandal overshadowed everything else about it).
Everything else I get, but why is Bloodstained on there? That game is good.
It's decent but nothing more than that.
Because being "just decent" as
says is unforgivable
>$5 million budget
>Ex-Konami personal
>6+ years of work
>The result is worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam
>The result is worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam
That's just wrong, outside of truly exceptional cases like Hollow Knight it mogs most of them
https://www.frontlinejp.net/2019/11/06/bloodstaineds-botched-japan-release-how-japanese-backers-still-cannot-play-the-game/
https://youtu.be/_mbv8Jfvlmk?t=1055
https://togetter.com/li/1368107
bloodstained is fine, night cry is funny
Redemption Reapers was alright.
Bloodstained wasn't bad, it did everything it set out to do and wasn't held back by archaic design choice (outside of Iga's personal flaw of making something way to obtuse unless you've played his games) it got two b***hin side games that are the best not classivania outside of playing old school CV games.
And Devil's third was fricked by publishers I don't even flaut oatmeal man for how it turned out
Bloodstained was decent but has there even been a genuinely good game that marketed itself as a "spiritual successor" or "from the makers of [good game]"
Bloodstained was amazing and Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair was fun
first of all Bloodstained is easily one of the best Metroidvanias ever made, it surpasses the original Castlevanias in terms of gameplay and content, only really falling behind in terms of graphics, also
>$5 million budget
you seriously think this is a lot for a game?
>The result is worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam
name 5 better Metroidvanias on Steam so i can tell you how garbage your taste is
>Bloodstained is easily one of the best Metroidvanias ever mad
it's worse than the average indie Metroidvania available on Steam.
>name 5 better Metroidvanias
Search the word "Metroidvania" on the Steam website; I guarantee that the first fifty results are infinitely superior to Bloodstained.
>Search the word "Metroidvania" on the Steam website
coward, you wouldnt dare to mention 5
Blasphemous 1
Blasphemous 2
Hollow Knight
The Mummy Demastered
Shadow Complex
Shantae (All of them)
All of them have something new or unique to bring to the table. Bloodstained was derivative at best.
My bad, meant to reply to this Black person:
>Blasphemous 1
lol no
>Blasphemous 2
didnt play
>Hollow Knight
backlog
>The Mummy Demastered
didnt play
>Shadow Complex
backlog
>Shantae (All of them)
you have the most worthless taste imaginable, every single Shantae game is mediocre, not even the pirate's curse escapes that mediocrity
>All of them have something new or unique to bring to the table.
oh please do tell me what fricking thing Shantae brought to the table, or Blasphemous for that matter
>Bloodstained was derivative at best.
Iga was paid to make an Igavania and he made the best Igavania so far, teres tons of varied enemies and countless pieces of equipment and shards you can equip, i guarantee you and me finished the game with completely different builds (assuming you even finished the game), not to mention the adition of side quests, crafting, re-spawning chests, on top of the RPG elements and the shard system drastically decrease the tedium of backtracking, you are ALWAYS making progress, which isnt something i can say about Blasphemous and SPECIALLY Shantae, because atleast the combat in Blasphemous is good, Shantae has shit combat on top of low tier enemies often surviving more than one hit even by the end game, so you get slowed down by those shitstains while backtracking and you hardly get anything for the trouble
This homie mad!
How can you say a game(s) are inferior if you haven't even played them yet?
I accept your concession.
thats why i explicitly criticized Shantae and Blasphemous, both inferior to Bloodstained homie
You said name 5, I named 5 and you took little b***h potshots at 2 of them.
That's 3 you haven't played yet and could very easily be a better game than SOTN 1.5.
Submit and I won't frick your mother tonight.
two of the games you mentioned are so vastly inferior why would i play the other 3? specially that Mummy game, damn, you sure have low standards homie
Hey now, your mother is a very mediocre woman.
...
Just like Bloodstained.
Was wanted:Dead kickstarted or something? why is that on the list?
It wasn't Kickstarted, but its marketing focused on "FROM THE PEOPLE WHO MADE NINJA GAIDEN!"
You should add Dragon's Dogma 2 to the list
Whats wrong with Wanted Dead?
how can the game be worse than tierkreis what the frick
It's not. The game is pretty good.
It's really weird how
>KS/Remake game made by the exact same devs usually turns out bad to mediocre with a couple glowing exceptions
while
>Game made by a team of fans who liked the original old game makes something that builds off of the concept into something better with some dogshit exceptions
is a thing.
I guess that's what happens when you're too attached to a project?
Nah.
Videogames are a team effort and those games were classic thanks to a good talented team having an unified vision.
The ones who lead those crowdfunding projects are simply a couple people from those teams who took the credit for the entire team's effort and are just parasites coasting on the classic game's prestige.
Which game made by fans are you referring to?
The word you're looking for is ironic.
>8-4 games
It's shameful that these fricks are still in business honestly.
The rockstar dev whose full responsible for the success of their famous product is a meme maybe 99% of the time. Video games aren't movies or music.
Tell that to Ganker and its personality cult around Kojima, Kamiya or Miyazaki
>Ganker is one person
people constantly call all three of them hacks and for good reason.
>Ganker is one person
Oh please, don't be disingenuous. You know very well what I mean.
How is the game? , friend told me it isn't pozzed on Spanish, thanks dad for fricking the maid so I half Latin
It plays okay, but wait for patches.
how long till the patch? recruitment for some heroes is still broken?
There is a fan patch that fixes that. Apprently the messed up flag is an incredibly amateurish mistake.
Oh shit, this is Arnold Schwarzenegger's bastard son!
How common is it for modern JRPG translated lines to have a completely different context compared to the original scripts?
I saw the line comparisons for this game, and in some lines, the characters look like they are talking about completely different topics.
I have familiarity with Final Fantasy mistranslations, but generally, the characters were still referring to the same topics in English and Japanese. Why would translators have this much freedom to completely write a new script altogether?
>boring music
>boring visuals
>boring story
>random encounters, save points and loading screens in 2024
Why do gay and trans people go out of their way to ruins games? Why can't they just leave us alone?
When people are so worthless they let themselves be defined on sucking wiener or having had their wiener removed, they NEED to announce it to the world at every single opportunity regardless if it's relevant to anything else.
So I am not someone who nitpicks localization, I think a lot of it serves games well and, in some cases, enhances the original script.
However, when I see localization like picrel, I die a little inside.
The original suikoden had a shit localization. Get used to it chud.
You really think you can compare the two localizations? Suikoden 2's localization problems were due to trying to translate the text too literally; it caused a few scenes to feel "off", but the intent behind each scene was clearly communicated.
This is much worse.
Localizers often claim that they change shit around in order to make dialogue seem less stiff and more like "what an actual human being might say in conversation," then proceed to make every character sound like a complete caricature. Have they just never actually talked to other human beings?
They're subhuman and don't know what real people talk like.
Like, I understand what localizers try to do, but you hit the nail on the head that poor decisions can lead to characters feeling cheap and one note
Why is Ganker so mad about the translation of JRPGs now and not in the 90s when Ted Woolsley was changing the script to funny things too?
There was no Ganker in the 90's. And this is worse because they're replacing Wooldley's corny shit with homosexual troony anal sex.
Bad translations of the past weren't full of leftist political propaganda, leftist language, tumblrspeak, Low T SJW musings, and unironically, current day californian shit.
Both are shit. Stand by your convictions if you're going to (rightfully) b***h about shit localizations
>Work hard on a game only to let a few localization morons destroy it.
Lol
I want you all to make a formal apology to Unicorn Overlord, right fricking now
I really liked UO, and Suikoden 2 is my favorite game ever. So far, Eiyuden is...pretty mid.
>Unicorn Overlord
That trash doesn't even have gameplay.
What can I say? Life sure sucks as a Suikodencuck
I'm not going to apologise to that mess because its localization is still trash
Not really. So far, I am finding Eiyuden's to be much worse.
Garbage is still made for the bins, Anon. Doesn't matter if ones stinkier than the other.
I don't even remember what was so bad about it.
Besides, even at its worst it was never THIS frick bad
>I don't even remember what was so bad about it.
Nothing, people who try to attack all localizations for not being "100% faithful" are part of the reason why they do not improve across the board. Trying to put UO's localization (actually good) in the same category as Eiyuden's (bad) is not constructive feedback.
I'm glad some shitty changes can be ignored so long as everything else is fine, is that the standard we're going with now?
yeah as someone who has enjoyed unicorn overkino, this game is a letdown
I backed this and loved UO now what homosexual
At least you got something good
>REEE Black folk IN MY SUIKODEN GAME!!!
Fricking tourists.
>japanese person
>tanned
>sees a Black person
face blindness is a symptom of autism anon, you should see a doctor to prescribe you some heavy medicine to try and get you close to normal
So is hypersexuality and fantasy fixation
Autism is weird, but it explains why Gacha is so popular
i would have posted a hauser myself
There's always that one moron who conflates tanned with being a Black person
What's that a jrpg that is pandering to westoid monkey with an ugly negress? Yup im not touching this shit
how come there hasn't been a good JRPG since Grandia (1997)? Is the genre really that dead?
'fraid so.
Why did it have to have borderlands-tier dialogue
I'm playing it and I mostly skip the conversations because it's dogshit and not gripping at all.
also: random encounters in 2024, with no way to speed up combat and with unskippable attack animations that must play every time alongside some quippy marvel one liner
worst $80 I spent and I played too long to be able to refund it
Hope to god there's a combat and localization mod fix
>Localization mod
Wont happen, places that host localization fixing mods get taken down fast now.
FF7 rebirth won so hard lmao
Just like how FF7 BTFO suikoden 2
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>all these thread were made by the rebirth gay
I KNEW IT
>Black person on cover
let me guess, under 400 reviews?
I enjoyed all of the Suikodens, even 4. But I don't think I can like this.
You WILL suck the troony wiener, anon. And you WILL like it.
A horrible thought just dawned on me. I think the shitty localization was an intentional "throwback" to 90s/early 2000s localizations without realizing people fricking loathed that shit
Because the hack that helped localize it already did that shit with Gotta Protectors
>I think the shitty localization was an intentional "throwback" to 90s/early 2000s localizations
Nah. Brian Gray is just a sick homosexual freak.
Not saying its good, just that these people are tone deaf and brain dead enough to think that was a good idea
That is a shame as Gotta Protectors is pretty fun otherwise.
Why don't you people just learn Japanese? If I cared at all about the purity of the script for a videogame I would. But I don't so I don't.
Why don't the translators do their job? Seems easy enough to just translate it to english without adding anything to the diologue.
Come home white man, 4 isn't as bad as you remember.
Maybe not, but compared to the other numbered entries in the Suikoden series it is a huge step down in quality.
I don't care about chud or gendered golems but some of the character personalities are just insufferable and you can just tell it's localization. like these lines... you can kind of just get a feel for what they were supposed to be, but the final outcome is just so fricking stupid it's aggravating
>I don't care about chud or gendered-
Then you shouldn't care about the characters personalities being changed if you're willing to accept slop
Would have been funnier with censor bars instead of having her talk like a the sort of c**ts defending these changes itt
>I don't care about chud
They are using a word that literally doesnt mean anything to anyone thats not a terminally online moron. thats like rule #1 when translating shit
Let me guess, in the original she uses crude language like the sukeban archetype complete with rolling Rs and what not? Why do these sick in the head Californians think that breaking into baby speech is badass?
damn, how'd you know?
More or less. She's not even remotely the same character anymore.
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Damn, doesn't that suck though?
I feel when localization goes too far, it changes "an aspect of a character's personality" to "their personality"
crying on an anonymous shill board isn't going to do you much good. go complain as close to them as you can get
I'm getting Fire Emblem Fates flashbacks.
Is this just as bad or worse?
Worse. Far, FAR, worse
I do not usually cry about or nitpick localizations, but this one is not god, chief.
Can the makers of C.H.U.D. sue them now?
Where is pesmerga
he's a girl now
The game is ok but it's trying way too old to be oldschool.
Like the item that increases your movement speed on the field is not only not all that hard to miss, but you have to waste an equipment slot to use it? Come on, there's no need to be THAT fricking 1990s game design.
I assumed it was just gays making a big deal out of nothing like they did with Unicorn Overlord's localization.
Doomposters are actually right for once though holy shit. How did this get greenlit by anyone?
same, thought it would be funny or just overblown, but this shit is unforgivably bad. I wonder if they can sue the localization team.
>I wonder if they can sue the localization team.
If the localization team presented a more literal translation for review and then inserted their chud troonylation afterwards, then they could absolutely get raped in court for fraud.
Fraud AND damages from potential lost sales.
Sadly this.
I was never the most excited for this game, but it always looked interesting at the very least. But now I don't to so much to even look at it.
cant wait for a even worse translation to come out only for people to then say Eiyuden Chronicles localization was overblown, repeating the cycle all over again.
nice I didnt realize it was out, how is it Gankerros?
if you want a non shitposting opinion, you'd have to visit /vrpg/
Read the thread
I really don't give a shit about the localization, but I am kind of annoyed on the overreliance on having the same QoL as a classic PS2 RPG. As in not much.
A lot of the annoyances get removed or improved on with new items and unlockables but sometimes just using them has a restriction, like you can only one at a time.
And
I haven't gotten far in, but it's really bland thus far. The only character I can muster up the slightest interest in fricked off from my party a couple hours ago, and now I'm stuck with the world's most generic protagonist and a bunch of interchangeable party members who all talk like a bunch of morons thanks to the localization.
I was hoping the story would pick up, but reading other anons' impressions of it have pretty much killed that hope.
Any missable characters?
I'd bet money on it since this game is in love with copying old RPG tropes.
>trivialize and mock someone's death for a dopamine rush on an anime website
LOL
>screencap every single instance where the text wasnt literal 1:1 translation so it drowns out the actually egregious examples
Dunno if poisoning the well or autism
you know, if it was translated 1:1 there wouldn't be a problem.
I feel like there's definitely a bunch of bad faith false flag c**ts involved in translation discussions, they're the ones who insist on using idiotic infantile insults like "lolcowlizers" and sap at the legitimacy of any claims as a result