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>fire any QA teams because consumers will literally playtest your game and pay YOU to do so
Is there a bigger scam in gaming?
people stupid enough to fall for obvious scams deserve to get scammed
nobodys forcing you to buy early access
I dont buy them. And i buy games.
where's uncle ted when you need him?
>People preorder games
>This happens before early access is a thing
>Start letting people play the beta before the game is out if they've preordered
>Wow everyone that preorders plays the beta!
>This means people like unfinished games!
No. It does mean you guys will pay for anything shelled out as early as possible though.
Quality isn't the issue, the fact you have that wallet opened immediately because of brand worship at any price is.
what do you mean early access of games at higher prices? bg3 was cheaper in early access than launch.
He meant games with FULL GAME early acess like Starfield had.
It's not early access but rather the full release.
For example Starfield, where you could play it like ~3 days early by buying the $100 dollar edition.
but lots of games have been doing that shit forever especially online games.
Thats the point, now even SINGLE PLAYER games are doing that. They're exploiting the FOMO and the fear of the player to get spoiled because he didnt buy the early access to sell "premium" edition of their games.
lots of single player games do it too just not AAAs.
No, Only online games did that in the past. Single player games did early access stuff but they did it like BG3, its not the full game and it didnt require a "premium edition" price tag for it. Shit like Starfield did is something that started happening just recently.
He means shit where idiots pay $40 more to play the game a couple of days early.
>significant numbers
>doesn't provide numbers or percentages
I mean I know he legally can't but Mat's tweets are almost all like this just frick off
Dude, Starfield had 100USD 5-days early access and reached 200k+ concurrent players on steam.
A LOT of people paid to play the game 5 days early.
I'm not denying it. Hogwarts and Starfield all did it this year alone and were super successful. I literally just want to see data on it lol
I'm surprised Microsoft doesn't get shit for doing early access for their first party games while also falsely advertising that their first party games are "day one" on Game Pass.
I don't buy any game that hasn't released already, and I always try to buy them at the cheapest prices, my country has the euro but it isn't as rich as germany or the netherlands so I won't pay rich people's prices for my games.
mmos really did end up ruining gaming at large.
Low grade streamer tax.
>Pay us an extra $15-30 or else you're going to get the game spoiled by the people that did
I hate video games so much
B-but the devs ask the players to not spoil the game on twitter !
This is only an issue if you lack the will to keep away from places where spoilers would occur. Literally a you problem.
FOMO is the only valid excuse I can imagine and even that is bullshit.
If you believe being forced to stay away from the internet for a week because the corpos are greedy c**ts and sell early access to their games is okay, you're part of the problem.
If you're using normalgay social media you deserve a bullet in the head, be happy you're only getting spoilers
Anon even youtube will spoil it for you unless you use 3rd party applications to remove the ability for youtube to recommend anything and Ganker in particular spoils everything constantly. Any social media other than some obscure mastodon instance is going to have a risk of spoiling you. Plus that doesn't stop people in real life from spoiling it like with Harry Potter if it's a big enough deal. There is no defense for companies being so greedy that they charge for 3 days of early access for a single player game.
you deserve a bullet to the head
be glad you're only getting spoilers you weak-willed homosexual
Nah, save the bullet for the bankers and CEOs.
No, you're the fricking moron enabling their behavior in the first place. If it wasn't for homosexuals like you pushing muh FOMO, muh spoilers this wouldn't be a thing and everybody would laugh at morons paying to play a few days early.
YOU ARE THE ISSUE.
I'm not even buying into the paid early access you dumb frick, I hate the practice and use the aforementioned blockers along with GankerX. That's why I know they exist in the first place. I'm just giving the point of view why people fall for the FOMO. You can not decouple the social media addicts from their internet addiction, they will pay to avoid spoilers every time. Instead of going after dumb humans being unable to alter their behavior it's just better to take aim at the predatory practices designed solely to prey on them. You can actually change those.
Did you miss the Xenoblade 3 threads? Or the entire catalogue flooded by FF7R threads? You know, threads for story based games? Starfield spoilers were posted constantly too, they just sounded so ridiculous that people probably assumed that they were fake.
>Did you miss the Xenoblade 3 threads? Or the entire catalogue flooded by FF7R threads?
Yeah I don't live here. This board is fricking boring 99% of the time.
Keep seething at spoilers moron
>I'm just giving the point of view why people fall for the FOMO.
I don't care about what happens to people I have no respect for.
This doesn't affect me, this will never affect me. For all I care companies can drain those flesh golems from all their money.
The problem is not the FOMO, moron. Most people wouldnt mind waiting a week to play the game if it wasnt for the spoilers. Forcing people to leave the internet because they didnt spend extra bucks to buy the premium edition is moronic and you are part of the problem for not giving a frick about this scummy behavior.
>The problem is not the FOMO, moron.
>Most people wouldnt mind waiting a week to play the game if it wasnt for the spoilers.
So people wouldn't care if it wasn't for their Fear Of Missing Out the opportunity to play the game unspoiled
But it's not FOMO?
Are you moronic? FOMO is when the dev releases a time limited content/offers. Getting spoiled is not a time limited thing, its something that potentially ruins the whole player's experience. You're just doing mental gymnastics to justify your moronic opinion.
>FOMO is when the dev releases a time limited content/offers.
FEAR
OF
MISSING
OUT
You're talking about FOMO without even knowing what FOMO fricking means you absolute moron.
You buy games early because you FEAR that you're going to be MISSING OUT on playing without getting spoiled.
Ok, i get it, You're a baiting moron. You'll keep parroting your moronic opinion over and over again. FOMO is not what you think its and no mental gymnastics you do will change this fact. Keep seething.
even with that extremely limited definition of FOMO I'm still right
you're paying $40 for games because you're afraid of missing out
Why should I give a frick about a problem that only affects idiots and will never have any effect on my life
>This doesn't affect me, this will never affect me
That's short sighted because this will end up with companies moving onto a new method to israelite you instead once this becomes standard so their profits can keep rising. Just how how MTX is now common and they opted to monetize this way on top of those. If you keep giving these companies the leeway to israelite everyone with no pushback, they're gonna keep thinking of ways to frick consumers over and those will effect you like the price increase from $60 to $70 for new games.
So even if it does not effect you because you're capable of being patient and staying off sites or using blockers, you should speak up loudly about what homosexuals these corporations are being so that the normalgays catch on and start pushing back more too. That's the only way to prevent further israeliteing because voting with our wallets does not work, there's way more morons with wallets.
>MTX
doesn't matter to because I don't buy games with it
>$70 for new games
doesn't matter to me because I don't buy games until they are heavily discounted
None of these practices will ever have any effect on me
We're left with 2 people left cracking Denuvo. 1 is a deranged troony and the other only cracks Football Manager, at some point you will feel the consequences of the push towards more egregious monetization. Even if it's in 10 years when games are now subscription service only because no one is paying $150 for a base game with early access and $100 more for all the DLC for it. At that point, piracy and modding both die and the industry will have been bought up by mega corporations, with each indie successful release having the corporations lining up like suitors to buy the developer out so they can pump and dump the IP.
Nvidia right now is overpricing the frick out of GPUs and trying to make cloud streaming take off. It's obvious that the future gaming is pushing towards is cloud based subscription services like what's happened with every other form of media and the more fricking ridiculous the pricing models for gaming become, the more likely people will be to put up with the latency from cloud gaming. The Series S being 70% of the Series market share despite being much worse than the Series X only proves that people will put up with more bullshit if it saves them a bunch of money. Hell, that's the entire reason subscription services took off when the 360 was so cheap and they made up with the cheap initial price with Xbox Live subs.
If there are no new games released ever starting today I still have more games to play than time left on this planet to play them all.
That's not even to mention my other hobbies.
Also there are zero games with Denuvo that are worth playing.
>it's not my problem because i can play old games!!
That would make you part of the problem. You'd be one of the reasons why the industry is dying, you are allowing it to happen.
>Also there are zero games with Denuvo that are worth playing.
So Sega has never put out a good game? You don't like Yakuza or Judgment? RE4R wasn't enjoyable? What about Stranger of Paradise? Nier Replicant? Monster Hunter? Triangle Strategy? That's ignoring that more companies with games that you do enjoy can start using it in the future regardless. I refuse to believe that you are this stupid, you're either trolling or a shill.
>So Sega has never put out a good game?
Not recently no.
>You don't like Yakuza or Judgment?
Correct. Most yakuza games don't even have denuvo by the way
>RE4R wasn't enjoyable?
No, I don't play demakes that remove content from the original game
>Stranger of Paradise
Final Fantasy series hasn't been good for more than a decade now
>Nier Replicant
Demake crap
>Monster Hunter
If you played one monster hunter you played them all and I've played one of them a long time ago
>Triangle Strategy
Hell forget denuvo I would never pay full price for something that look like it came out of RPGMaker
Name some recent games that you do like then.
>if you have self control you're part of the problem
lol
lmao even
I refuse to believe a real human wasted his time writing this. This post was either created by ChatGPT or you're far too stupid to be on the internet on the first place.
I never got any spoilers for anything I didn't go out of my way to find it.
For instance I still have no idea what happened in Starfield, BG3 and whatever other game released this year.
The elden Brain is the BG3 final boss
interesting
no idea who that is and by the time I get around to playing a few years from now I won't even remember
You become space jesus at the end of Starfield first playthrough.
>just stay off the entirety of social media and any streaming site
Do you realize what you're asking of consumers with that comment? People will go out out of their way to spoil shit for others regardless because they find it funny. Never forget:
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you actually buy the goypasses don't you? you fricking homosexual.
spoiler cultures gotten really bad too, people really don't give a shit anymore, you'll see phone recordings of scenes from movies the day they come out all over any social media tag for the film, it's fricking insane
Anything game/movie/TV show/book/anime/whatever that can be "ruined" by spoilers isn't worth consuming in the first place
If your videoGAME can be ruined by spoilers then the game isn't worth PLAYING in the first place.
pls understand
zoomer brains have been ruined by snoy movie '''games'''
Are we ever going to acknowledge just how much cancerous shit Valve introduced to gaming in the West, or do we still give them a pass on everything because "Steam sales, omg my wallet, PCMR"
If you want to get into it some ADND modules people would get early if they pre-ordered it.
So like usual, it wasn't Valve.
So still "Seam sales, omg my wallet, PCMR" non-acknowledgement. Good to know.
>Ree you won't blame Valve for things they didn't do
ok gayot
>Valve didn't do it
valvedrοnes, I swear
Literally, yes even in this case you're wrong since the undeniable example for popularizing early access gaming has never been available on Steam.
moron.
ironic
typical valvedrοne mentality
you mean like mtx that was being done in asia ages before tf2 or buying into early access that minecraft started ages before steam did ea?
Valve didn't do anything. PC in general started it.
What the frick do you think online shitters with expansions are except glorified always in development "early access" MTX trash?
Microsoft was the one who brought it to non-PC games by the way. Sony and MS joining were the ones who ruined all games on consoles.
Literally none of that matters. There was a reddit post a few years back with paid mods and gabe got one of the most downvoted comments of all time. People like valve because they consistently make good products and don't frick them over. Why do you not get that?
Gamers have literally no self control and patience, this is not surprising
You just know it's going to be all fake early access. As in, the early access launch will be the actual launch date and regular launch just sloppy seconds, but marketing will say you're getting be before release. I hate this industry.
big exec israelites won im afraid.
dude, just vote with your wallet, even if it doesnt work lmao lol the cancer will... just stop one day dude
i simply will not play your game
its just that easy
i don't mind this. idiots can go ahead and pay and i can know up to 5 days early whether or not an upcoming game is shit.
And get the whole story spoiled to you as extra.
I don't play goyslop so how is this my problem.
if all of the goycattle didn't support this shit it wouldn't happen.
The only reason I didn't buy the new Fate game was because of the MTX shit. One and done product or frick off.
Expensive paid early access has already been a thing for ages. I never buy new games anymore, I buy them after a year or two of updates and dlc when they're in a bundle or on sale for $5. If they want to charge a premium on launch day or have people pay through the nose for a buggier early build, whatever.
No, only MMO slop / Online games had paid full game early access.
I really don't feel bad for studios closing down after they started acting like this.
Unironically based.
It’s “exploiting” people with more money than brain cells just like gatcha.
Early access 3 days early is great, it's like a stupid tax. I hope they do it way more, that way I can keep paying $70.
If you're stupid enough to pay $100 for starfield or mortal kombat a few days early you can afford it.
The problem is getting forced to stay away from the internet for a week to not get spoiled by the "stupid morons" that paid extra for early access.
>muh spoils
stop being gay, you just have no self control and are trying to justify why you spent $100
I didnt spend 100USD because i got the cracked version. Its not about self-control its about greedy corpos exploiting the spoiler culture to sell more expensive versions of their game, If you support this shit you're utterly moronic.
lying homosexual
Do you REALLY not understand how the stock market works anon? You talk like a child.
Once a company becomes publicly traded it exists purely to increase profits in any and all ways possible, it's not greed, it's the purpose of the company to act this way if it's publicly traded/ The CEO will be replaced if he does not do this, infact he can be sued for not "being greedy" it is his fiduciary responsivity to investors. The point is continual returns on investment, so share price needs to be higher than last.
A private company is like a cat killing a mouse and taking it away to eat it, a publicly traded company is like a terrier that will kill every single mouse.
And thats why capitalism was a mistake. Embrace socialism and comunism.
Mtx is also a stupid tax. You don't want a stupid tax. The devs will always put the stupid taxpayers on a pedestal and make things worse for people who refuse to pay
They will do it whether we like it or not, you have become confused with how much impact whining actually has on the wider audience.
Everywhere you post is a niche of a niche of the consoomer base of these titles.
>buy game on steam
>play and finish it before official release
>because it's a preorder you can refund it at any time before release
The reason they force early access on those games is to prevent people from getting physical copies.
They earn more money from digital copies.
This way they don't give retailers any money (unless you buy from the key store)
How does this affect you in any way? If consoomers wanna consoom and pay to beta test the game for you then let them.
It affects me greatly because i end up needing to stay away from the internet for a week to not get spoiled by the morons who bought the "premium edition".
>Oh no it’s spoilers for Starfield!!!
>How could this happ… oh wait…
>watch starfield review to see if you want to buy it
>recommended video has major spoilers
You can blame Steam for normalizing it for western gamers
It was World of Warcraft actually.
Fricking Valve
And again onions slurping normie homosexuals ruin gaming
>Microsoft has been doing this with their "ultimate editions" for years now
>coincidentally they're also the ones making the biggest push for digital only consoles because of game pass
Another reason why Microsoft's continued existence has been detrimental for gaming.
Same with Valve honestly. Slowly making gaming worse for well a decade.
people have been paying extra for early access to the post launch year long beta for a decade now.
As someone who only buys games a few years after release for a small fraction of the price this doesn't affect me.
High time preference homosexuals get what they fricking deserve.
Why are you not buying our 100USD premium edition to prevent getting spoiled ? Are you poor? If you're poor, too bad... you WILL get spoiled and you WILL LIKE IT unless you're willing to leave the internet for a whole week 🙂
closer to 2 weeks with some games, switch games have it bad with how early they leak because of emulators allowing 1 person with an early copy to share it with the entire internet.
>I can't go on the internet for a week!
I'm not one of those boomers who hates everything digital, but you're all a bunch of pathetic addicts. What happened to all the anons shittalking zoomers for being unable to look away from the screen for 5 minutes?
Anon the majority of Ganker is zoomers nowadays.
Most of the people in this thread probably have a streamer open on their second monitor and are also using their phones right now
Zoomers are becoming the new norm, anon. They're everywhere now that they're old enough to frick legally.
This is fine, because if you buy it on steam and play early access, you can refund the game anytime up until it actually releasing. Meaning you can put 5000 hours into a game that's in long term early access and then refund it the day before it comes out no questions asked.
doesn't work because it's not really early access
If it's advertised as early access, it's early access
That's up to the dev. Like, no joke, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS. The ONLY way this is good, is if it's like $10 for EA and that gives you EVERYTHING on retail release because you had to wait like 3 years on that 1 man dev team.
early access isn't really the correct term. the "early" release is just the release day. the game costs $80 instead of $60, but there's a price drop to $60 a week after release
He was an annoying smug homosexual but he was absolutely right about pre-orders.
it's dumb but it beats in-game items I guess.
I'm guilty of this. I paid an extra 10 euro for the week early access version of Hogwarts Legacy this year.
In a roundabout way isnt this good? As it means you will have loads of amateur footage of the game up for the official regular day of release so you will know if the game is shit or not and wont have to rely on shills to tell you if the game is broken or not.
No, it isnt good because spoilers.
I cannot understand the mindset of somebody who feels the need to pay $30 to play a game a couple days early. It feels like you would need to be borderline disabled, like there's some kind of inability to understand the future or an impulse control issue.
>indie early access
>pay cheaper version of the game
>help devs
>can provide feedback to shape the future
>AAA early access
>pay more to play in advance
>your feedback doesn't change or improve the game
Just about every game is early access now, they just don't tell you.
There is a difference between early access that doesnt give you the full game access and/or the dev doesnt charge extra for it ( Like BG3 did ) And of what Starfield did selling the full game early access and charging premium pricetag for it.
This is good as you get the complete morons to play the game a week early like Starfield and let all the regular non moronic people know the game is shit so it can be avoided. Its actually shits on hype for a game.
If you can do delayed gratification then it's literally a non issue. When a game releases wait up to a year for the big update and then buy it for half the price.
I bought three games on release in my life, cyberpunk, payday 3 and fallout 76.
I only regret 76.
I hope they keep pushing the price on this paid early access shit. See how hard consoomers with no self control let themselves be exploited.
I can't remember the last time I bought a game at full price, let alone the ~~*deluxe edition*~~