POKEMON BROS.....WTF HAPPENED?! How can a small indie company of japanese gamedevs beat our 100000x folded pokemon games?
Seriously, how will Pokemon recover from this? How many of these pokemon like games will we get?
Palworld Beats Pokemon Legends: Arceus' First Week, Sells 7 Million Copies
Its okay, people buy pokemon because its pokemon.
Not because its good/bad/better/worse than anything else.
>people buy pokemon because its pokemon.
>Not because its good
and thats why pokemon games are so bad
afaik those numbers were STEAM ONLY
xbox and gamepass are not counted
nobody buys games on xbox
>..WTF HAPPENED?!
Flavor of the month streamer game, it will die out soon like all those popular party games, fall guys and that one with SUS whatever
Palworlds has no legimitimacy for popularity, other than being popular, the gameplay is average and its a much less interesting game than conan exiles
this post scares the paid palworld shill
cope tendie the game is good that's all it takes for it to get popular.
lol
"gamers" who are just fad chasers and who use games for socialization are always looking for the next fad game. This is it
real hardcore gamers like myself are unaffected by it, deal with it chud. I will NEVER buy palworld, lol, top lol even
Good post
Buy it right now or I will kick your sorry ass.
There's flavor of the month and then there's LITERALLY BEATING THE BIGGEST FRANCHISE IN THE WORLD.
They are not "beating" anything per-capta. The world gets more people in it exponentially every 10 years.
The new generation uses games to socialize more, because games were made easier and more multiplayer now. This is just a fad
Look at the per capita, palworld is just the next fall guys. It will be dead in 2 months. Nobody is playing palworld because the gameplay is anything different or just what they needed - they are playing because its a FAD
Legends Arceus wasn't released 10 years ago
It's ok lil bro, keep eating nintendo's shit like good cuck you are
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They are not "beating" anything per-capta. The world gets more people in it exponentially every 10 years. The new generation uses games to socialize more, because games were made easier and more multiplayer now. This is just a fad Look at the per capita, palworld is just the next fall guys. It will be dead in 2 months. Nobody is playing palworld because the gameplay is anything different or just what they needed - they are playing because its a FAD
Adding spaces between paragraphs improves readability, I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.
>They are not "beating" anything per-capta. The world gets more people in it exponentially every 10 years.
>The world gets more people in it exponentially every 10 years.
lmfao
>It will be dead in 2 months.
So just like SV?
I support any bad things happening to Nintendo and support this chinese puppet corporation taking some of their profits but do you tards understand how much new Pokemon sells?
Yes we know how pokemon gays are whipped and will buy any dogshit named Pokémon. It's why it's so funny seeing Palworld be a massive hit
>Those numbers
>No innovation
Pokegays are mentally ill. Legitimately.
Just you wait, Palworld will outsell all of them in due time.
>every other game sold less than the original
damn Pokémon has been in decline since the start huh
yes the games always sold like that, the franchise only get profts because the merch, tcg, mobile game and other shit etc..
>the franchise only get profts because the merch
>the franchise only get proft
>ONLY
>the media is 10 to 15M per game
kek
>Pokémon has been in decline since the start
>sword/shield is the second best selling title
>Scarlet/violet is the fourth one
>in less than 5 years sold closer to the best selling title in the franchise.
>with both still charting top10 in the platform.
dummy
>fails to outsell Red and Blue, despite the Switch boost
>sales take a decline in the long-term
Yes, you dummy, Pokemon sales aren’t as rosy as you make them to be.
>A couple of games which is still charting top 10 should sell in 5 (S/S) and 2 (S/V) years the whole sales of another game along 26 years in different platforms.
Yeah, you are dumb.
That excuse doesn’t work once you remember that Breath of the Wild outsold Ocarina of Time massively, despite being out in a much shorter time.
OOT sold 7.6M while R/G/B sold 31.3M. Using Zelda is just a bad and desperate example.
>misses the point of the comparison
The point is that how old the previous bestselling game is shouldn’t be used as an excuse to justify lame growth.
I didnt miss the point, the example used is bad because OOT wasn´t a high bar to beat.
This is like saying that Super Mario franchise is on declive because no main game sold like Super Mario Bros on NES, a near 40 YO game, which is 40M units sold and second best selling Mario title only below Mario Kart 8.
lmao, if your gripe is that OoT is too low a bar to clear, then Mario Kart provides a much better example. Mario Kart Wii sold 37 million, and Mario Kart 8 EASILY cleared it with 57 million in the Switch alone. If Mario Kart 8 could do it, I should expect better from Pokemon, the biggest multimedia franchise in the world.
Thats because Mario Kart as a franchise is an exception and not the rule. See again the example of Super Mario Bros, no main game sold as much as the first Super Mario Bros on NES and that happens because the game sold that amount thanks to the years over different platforms. Is the same for Sonic The Hedgehog on Genesis which is the best selling Sonic game and several other franchises.
>I should expect better from Pokemon, the biggest multimedia franchise in the world.
You said it, multimedia, and games are just a part of the multimedia concept.
>it’s different for Pokemon
No, being a multimedia franchise means we should expect MORE from Pokemon, not LESS. It doesn’t get the same excuses as a smaller franchise like Kirby or Fire Emblem.
I'm not saying that it's different for Pokemon, I'm saying that Mario Kart is not a regular paradigm for growth.
>Fire emblem
Every game previous to Awakening sold under 1M. Since then FE games sales is up and down.
>Kirby.
The best selling Kirby Game was the first one with 5.13 until Forgotten Land with 6.96, but again, is not a high bar.
Even if you only count the NES sales of SMB it’s still the best selling Mario. SMB3 BARELY beats it if 3 gets to count all its re-releases and 1 doesn’t.
>Mario Kart as a franchise is an exception and not the rule
It is the rule actually. Basically every Nintendo franchise broke sales records with the new game on switch. Best selling Zelda, Mario Kart, 3D Mario, Animal Crossing, Smash. Everything except Pokemon and 2D Mario, and 2D Mario has been hot garbage since NSMB.
>Even if you only count the NES sales of SMB it’s still the best selling Mario. SMB3 BARELY beats it if 3 gets to count all its re-releases and 1 doesn’t.
Thats the point, Red/Green/Blue counts all the releases, same with mario, sonic or other games with ports, not remakes. Its more about sales along the years rather than just sales.
>It is the rule actually. Basically every Nintendo franchise broke sales records with the new game on switch
Not true for main line Mario or Pokemon both still have the first game as the best selling one. Most of the franchises that growth with the switch was the ones under the 5M of sales like Metroid, Kirby, Pikmin or FE
>Thats the point, Red/Green/Blue counts all the releases
No it doesn’t. The 31M number is GB only, and it’s still the best selling game in the series
>Not true for main line Mario or Pokemon
You should read full posts before responding
>No it doesn’t. The 31M number is GB only, and it’s still the best selling game in the series
It counts the eshop release.
>You should read full posts before responding
I read it, we said the same, thats why "is the rule actually" don't fit. The only ones who had a growth was the ones which are under 5M, so not a high bar to beat.
>It counts the eshop release
No it doesnt
>The only ones who had a growth was the ones which are under 5M
I listed multiple examples that were over 5M
>I listed multiple examples that were over 5M
Which one was over 5M before Switch? No FE, Pikmin, Splatoon, Pikmin or Metroid. The only big spike was Animal Crossing.
>Which one was over 5M before Switch?
All of them. Add Luigi’s Mansion and Mario Party too.
Prior switch release best selling Metroid was under 2M, best selling FE was on 3M, Pikmin 3 was 2.4M, Splatoon was 4M. Not counting Luigis Mansion because I said "under 5M" and since 3DS Luigis Mansion was already on 7M and Mario party over 8M on Wii.
None of those were on my original list. Here it is again for you.
Zelda
Mario Kart
3D Mario
Animal Crossing
Smash
>I said "under 5M" and since 3DS Luigis Mansion was already on 7M and Mario party over 8M on Wii.
You said “The only ones who had a growth was the ones which are under 5M” and these are all examples of games that had over 5M sales before switch and also had growth on the switch, proving you wrong
>lame growth
This moron think that RGB sold 31 millions in one hit and not along decades while Pokemon SV and SS are still selling and charting every week.
If Mario Kart 8 can do 50 million, why haven’t SwSh or SV done it?
>If Mario Kart 8 can do 50 million, why haven’t X IP done it?
The premise you are throwing could be applied to any IP and then and claim it as an example of "lame growth". Yeah, you are a moron who can't understand the most basic meaning of growth.
Except that Pokemon is one of the biggest franchises in the world, so no, it can’t be applied to any franchise, but it can be applied to something as huge as Pokemon.
Pokemon is the biggest multimedia franchise, which comprise more than just games. You are playing a fool or you are just a moron, whatever.
Pokemon makes all it's money off merchandise. Come back when your soulless unreal engine, asset flipped game made by an AI outsells Rockstar Games first week sells.
Man, that goal sure is moving quick lmfao
>muh merchandise cope
Prepare to see it drop like a stone once Palworld characters replace the likes of Pikachu in the public consciousness. There's no way it won't happen for a game outselling PLA.
Lamball plushes can't come fast enough, Jesus.
>Pokemon makes all it's money off merchandise
without games and anime to generate buzz and advertise it, it won't sell, moron.
Never seen this artist before, holy frick my dick. They're apparently an anon here too. If you're reading this you have my undying loyalty, 10/10 certified taste.
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they out pizza'd the hut.
Wow, it beat a spinoff Pokémon title! Very impressive. Maybe they'll beat Mario tennis mnext.
>Game Freak's handcrafted Pokemon title
>spin off
>LITERALLY BEATING THE BIGGEST FRANCHISE IN THE WORLD.
They in a far cry of getting 10+ billion dollars
This. People don't understand that this is exploding way beyond the likes of Vallheim and Fall Guys.
Fall Guys and Among Us were much more popular than Palworld was at their peaks
This is nothing.
This post radiates sour grapes energy
The more you say it the more desperate it sounds. FOTMs don't have 2 million concurrent players.
>FOTMs don't have 2 million concurrent players.
That was literally the case for shit like Fall Guys, you oblivious moron.
fall guys all-time peak is 172026 players concurrent
>Flavor of the month streamer game
But enough about Scarlet and Violet.
People barely played Legends Arceus for a month so I don't get this angle.
I beat Violet in 3 days and never looked back. Should probably motivate myself to play the DLC some time.
>people buy games, have fun, call it done, and move on
>NO YOU DON'T GET IT YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME LIKE ITS YOUR JOB WE NEED UPDATES EVENTS AND PLAYER COUNT AAAAAAA LOOK AT THIS CHART FLOPFLOPFLOP
This, seriously. The idea that a game is a flop because millions of people bought it, played a couple dozen hours, got their fulfillment and quit, is utterly mind boggling and probably only makes sense to the smoothest of brains.
Some people genuinely have nothing going on and validate themselves by becoming loyalist consoomers for one brand. These are the kind of people who have panic attacks when left alone in a room because they start to reflect on how sad their existence is.
See games that aren't FOTM still have people talk about them after the initial release window. Games that are FOTM are immediately forgotten as soon as the trend is over.
You're a proper idiot
genuinely wtf is this shit? I've seen better looking school project games
Your toon is ugly as shit bro
Don’t shit talk moron-kun
Wait, which game is this?
Looks like pokemon
Pokefans are the fakemon audience though.
Pokemon
If ninty actually gave the slightest shit about this fans they would have a word with GF. Frick it, go back to pixel art, 3D is obviously too mentally challenging for them.
>go back to pixel art
This is what I dont get. I guess the 3d must be cheaper, but the gf artists were so much better at pixel art, and its had a resurgence lately, why not make more pixel games, even as spinoffs?
>I guess the 3d must be cheaper
Also less effort, this is important.
>3d must be cheaper
People associate pixel art with easier because of older, weaker consoles and PCs but it’s way harder to produce. And animating pixel art is insanely harder than 3D
Because good pixel art is very meticulous and time-consuming.
SNK went bankrupt twice because they were so hesitant on dropping pixel art for 3D art.
>but the gf artists were so much better at pixel art
no they weren’t
Pokemon was great at music and occasionally you see this but imo that hasn't happened since sun and moon.
Pokemon is still great at designs. Scarlet and violet is a drop off but even SNS had dragapult which is a top 20 of all time design.
Pokemon's turn based formula is perfection for 1v1 or 2v2. It's just that 1v1 or 2v2 is kind of shitty to play. Still I'd rather engage with the pokemon battle formula over something inferior like SMT. But I'd rather not engage with static design turnbased games at all anymore. They aren't interesting from a tactical standpoint.
Palworld fricking rules
You can say it wasnt good, but no one is moronic enough to say that 3d pokemon looks better than 2d pokemon. Compart sword and shield to ds sprites and tell me its better
meanwhile, in palworld
Alright that's actually pretty cute wtf
kawaiiiii
now all it needs is hug and kiss and frick
>slightly rotating camera for no reason
>anti-aliasing: off
>dog turns right, walks to position (x,y) - hold
>char_1 walks to position (x,y) - hold, turn left
>char_2 walks to position (x,y) - hold, turn right
>trigger text box
This is some Dreamcast tier cutscenes. Do tendies really play like this? No wonder they think every Zelda is groundbreaking. Imagine giving them MGS2 or Halo 3. Would blow their fricking minds.
And Palworld looks identically as bad to anyone with standards that don't play either.
BUZZWORD BLAST!!!
>Palworlds has no legimitimacy for popularity
Is this the new "nu-fun"?
>Palworlds has no legimitimacy for popularity
Absolutely seething.
>much less interesting game than conan exiles
It's faster and less of a hassle to build things.
>The world gets more people in it exponentially every 10 years.
There's nothing exponential about human growth these last years, anon.
Most first world countries are in decline. And Africa's growth has slowed down faster than "expert" thought it would.
>Flavor of the month streamer game, it will die out soon like all those popular party games, fall guys and that one with SUS whatever
But enough about Pokemon.
So fricking mad. Game Freak isn't your friend.
>and that one with SUS whatever
this moron is really pretending he doesn't know about among us lmao
I was just thinking the same.
put me in the screencap let's GOOOOOOOO
uh oh tendie melty
This post was written via Nintendo sanctioned butt plug with bluetooth
I don’t understand what homosexuals like you expect out of video games. Do you expect people to play the same game forever? Is a game only good if you play every single day for years? What the frick is this logic where “everyone stopped playing a month later so it’s shit” you dumb fricking moron
Nintendo isn't going to frick you
People said the same shit about Genshin
God, ESL boomers need to be instantly rangebanned.
How to tell someone you have no friends without saying it.
I'm having fun
>Anon used Cope!
>It wasn't very effective...
>Palworlds has no legimitimacy for popularity, other than being popular,
smartest poketardo
Its the game people have been begging gamefreak for for over a decade now. Someone finally got fed up and said 'frick it, I'll do it myself'. on top of that gamefreak's attempt at an open world game was an outright disaster and thats putting it lightly. Nintendies like are mad not because its popular but because another company made what they wanted gamefreak to make.
This is completely true, it's basically just got everything popular these days jammed into it (le open world le crafting le survival) and people will get bored as they always do - even these zoomers on Ganker meming it.
Doesn't take away the fact that the entire game is basically what Gamefreak should've made years and years ago though, hopefully it'll make them up their game.
>the entire game is basically what Gamefreak should've made years and years ago
Using your pokemon in an assembly line making guns is really dumb actually, and gamefreak should have made a good game instead
>Flavor of the month streamer game, it will die out soon
Oh yeah, like pokémon?
Nobody talked about Pokemon SV after the first month either lmao. Seriously, why is this moronic argument so prolific armong midwit morons? 99.9% of games dont get talked about after the first few months, and if they keep going its because of endless waifu wars. Its almost like we dont like in the 80s/90s any more and get an absolute metric frick ton of games per year compared to the past, therefore people get bored of shit quicker. If mario 64 or whatever highly talked about game of its era were released today, it wouldnt be "talked about" after a few months either.
People still tall about how fricking shit SV is til this day and how it has N64 graphics and was utter fricking shit worth $0 and full of horrific looking troony npcs.
I mean yes, but even then its not a dedicated discussion every other day until a new pokemon game gets announced. The point is that saying "this wont be talked about in X months" applies to literally almost every game that you can think of that came out in recent years. Therefore its a stupid argument
This anon is actually right
This game has FotM written all over it
Pokemon would've done numbers if they sold their games on steam. But japanese people are inflexible morons who are stuck in their ways, and that will be their downfall.
>But japanese people are inflexible morons who are stuck in their ways, and that will be their downfall.
Uhh, anon, you do realize that the Palworld devs are also Japanese, right?
Everything changes when they are in a "do or die" scenario like PalWorld devs were.
>stuck in their ways will be their downfall
you mean like not having sex?
>First game from developer vs multi-billion dollar series
nah-ah it's not their first game
but still impressive tho
>First game from developer
It’s not even their first Nintendo ripoff with creature capturing
It's simple, gamefreak simply got dunked on. They became too complayscent.
>sell game on steam for 3 $
>HOLY SHIT SISTERS ITS SELLING MORE THAN A 60$ CONSOLE GAME!!!
And now nintendo will never make another game like Arceus
Now that Pokémon is dead and buried /vp/ Videogames Pokémon should be renamed to /vp/ Videogames Palworld
Agreed.
it's time. or just make it pokemon and palworld
The old mods had a sense of humor and would have done that for like 2 days to make everyone freak out.
Pokepal or PP no don't post pps.
Yes I think it's time
Based
Nu/vp/ is so cancerously shit for unironically defending BDSP
>complayscent.
WTF happened?
It looks like pokemon, it's like a new generation of pokemon released. It sounds moronic but it's literally that.
Its like 4 generations ahead of current pokemon in terms of game, like a ps1 game to a PS5 game in terms of playability
>like a ps1 game to a PS5 game in terms of playability
It's just graphics and designs. Nobody even cares what the gameplay is like, they just know it has guns
But its quite literally ahead of pokemon in terms of graphic quality and fidelity/ animations, gameplay has many several overlapping design choices with one being of a far higher quality in terms of gameplay, and one of them hasn't fully utilized its concept in a full game and only has different aspects split between multiple different games
No ofense but that's the biggest saying nothing with lots of words. Yes it has multiple gameplay elements we know that but it's not why people are interested in the game
to me any comparisons to Pokemon's gameplay are silly. You collect cute mon-type monsters but that's it - gameplay wise it's a hybrid of Eldenring and BotW with the Pals functioning similar to the spirit ashes in Elden Ring.
Then there is a complete separate basebuilding/ecomomy thing happening which I'm not sure what to compare to - people tell me it's similar to ARK which i've never played so i believe them.
Its minecraft with pokemon
game freak killed themselves. their fault. return to pixels and maybe the old pokemon fans would care
I don't understand how pokemon even in pixel form looks so shit. You have to many fan projects or small form pixel projects that look absolutely stunning. Why the frick can't one of the largest game franchises pull themselves together and produce something of that quality?
gen 4 and 5 look great
I wonder what the discourse on Palworld would be if the dev studio happened to be in china instead of japan
Genshit is still popular
It is, but is was also far more divisive despite also being a lot more polished
Meanwhile it feels like everyone who isn't indifferent is on board with Palworld except for some small minority who are upset about the game ripping off Pokemon designs
>upset about the game ripping off Pokemon designs
I’m more upset that it’s survival crafting instead of a gameplay type I might enjoy
>some small minority who are upset about the game ripping off Pokemon designs
troony pedos
>I wonder what the discourse on Palworld would be if the dev studio happened to be in china instead of japan
It's reception would be far worse in places like 4chin or reddit but it probably wouldn't affect 90% of it's current playerbase who got into it because of twitchstreamers and shit
You guys do realize it's only popular BECAUSE it's stealing from pokemon?
People feel edgy when they play this game, like they are the resistance fighting against some fascist government
Nobody actually likes palworld
You greatly underestimate the popularity of even semi-functioning multiplayer survival games especially among twitch viewer audiences
Vallheim also sold 12 million copies even tho it's also just a bogstandard indie multiplayer survival game. This is just the next big thing for this audience
Yeah I feel so edgy when I watch my lamballs relax in their hot spring after returning from collecting magic fruit.
It isnt actually popular. It is popular in China, but if you have to qualify it it isnt as popular as you think.
Outside of china it doesn't really exist.
>well over 1 million players during bottomed out china hours
>most of the reviews are in english
Stop coping, schizo.
No reason to cope. China loves the game but no one else does.
Theres nothing wrong with that. China deserves games for them too. If they got more good games they would be so jaded and hateful all the time.
>IT'S ONLY POPULAR BECUASE OF CHINA
>ignores how most of the people playing/buying/reviewing the game aren't Chinese
Yup, schizo.
It steals fron Ark and those survival games not pokemon.
>Game is popular only because it's stealing from flopémon!!!
Craftopia is basically the same thing but with normal animals and it was a giant flop, so yeah
Nintendo profited more from merch today than Palworld will profit from in its lifetime. That said I can't wait to play palworld this weekend
>Biggest franchise in the world will make more than a indie game company
Wow you`re soooooo insightful
Acshually those are only Arceus' first 3 days. Palworld still has much to learn.
>POKEMON BROS.....WTF HAPPENED?!
Turns out releasing games for an internationally recognised franchise exclusive on one console owned by a company with abhorrent business practices is not as financially lucrative as just making a third the price assess flip.
Turns out all these suits with their business degrees actually only know how to reduce company spending rather than making a good product
>making a third the price assess flip.
homie seething so hard he can't type correctly, calm down and play some Palworld lil bro
>how will Pokemon recover from this?
you are comparing a $60 game with a $10 game
Its a silly and low effort bait.
>You`re comparing the biggest franchise in the world with anything else?
Do you apply the same mental gymnastics when another $10 indie game doesn`t sells as much? frick off pokegay
>mental gymnastics
Revenue is not a thing of mental gymnastics dummy.
>pokegay
did Gamefreak fricked you in the ass? comparing a $60 game with a $10 game is silly, you dont need to be a pokedrone to see the difference
>another $10 indie game doesn`t sells as much?
if a game dont sell at a low price as $10, the game should be bad as frick. Also, palworld is 3 bucks in some stores.
It's just FOTM, it will pass
and more shitty threads when it passes
>IT'S OVER
lol
put slavery and guns in pokemon lol
put real fricking models in pokemon like a real fricking game how dare they the fricking rip off artist hacks lol
Which mainline entry has Palworld beaten
One google search away but I felt like spoonfeeding
So it's literally competition for 1.5 gen games? Neat.
I think Palworld will reach 10 million sales at the very minimum and over 20 million in an optimistic scenario
I don't think it will even do that well. It's already punching below Pokemon's weight by selling half as many units as a typical Pokemon title at half the price. At or around 10 million I can see it plateauing in sales if I'm being generous. I don't see the game having staying power.
The thing is that games on steam sell all the time, they provide a steady stream of revenue and sales, new players will be constantly trying the game out and if the company will do content updates right then they'll retain a lot of existing players too, it's only a matter of time before it hits 20mil honestly, it might take a year or 10 but it will get there
But by then the game won't be relevant. Or will be selling for cents on the dollar that the profit it makes won't be relevant.
You're right, that would depend on how fast it reaches that number but if the devs care for this game then they'll also throw in some DLC every few years they could sell for $15-$20, I bet that at least half of the existing playerbase at the time would buy it, in any case it's a huge win for them, the game will be an insane commercial success and will do insane numbers
The chinese and koreans absolutely love it for some fricking reason. It'll hit 10 easily.
That would still be flop territory considering they are targeting pokefans. Those people spend by the billions, not millions.
20 million is pessimistic. Word of mouth is still travelling (it's been 5 days), and the first major sale will shoot have the poorgays jump in. Any major content update is just another boost
They already plateaued in reach. China and India are aware of it. It has saturated its markets.
The game is already being sold at sale prices. If they try and sell it any lower the game basically won't be making money at all.
>only higher than cash grab 3rd versions
So none?
>single game outsells other single games
You're so right anon, I hope Palworld releases two versions
>emerald
>mid 70s
>IT'S FOTM!!!!
So what? FOTM games are fun.
the games do not even have similar gameplay
thank fricking god, I can't believe a DQ1 tier rpg has gone on for so long
Hiring wumaos will arrest china, but that's it. Everyone else ignores it. China loves it though, they love asset flips and scams culturally.
Game looks like fortnite mixed in with a Chinese sweat shop Pokemon rip off. No thanks.
No one outside the great wall is interested. It is pretty much a chinese product for the chinese people.
Isn't it only $10 and you can refund it?
$30 with 10% off on steam
I don't think anyone is counting gaypass rentals as sold copies
>my slop is better than your slop!
pokeBlack folk coping so hard. this is a zero sum game winners and losers. palworld is mogging pokemon so bad but you want to cope by saying durhurr they both suck. to distract by how much better palworld is compared to pokemon. and pal world isnt even a bad game. its the only survival type game i have genuinely enjoyed.
>this is a zero sum game winners and losers
Only if the next pokemon game comes out and it sells less than the previous one. Otherwise the Pokemon Company doesn't care
SV has already stagnated and sold less than SwSh. It’s definitely going to decline and not sell that many systems for Switch 2.
Honestly if you really think about it Game Freak are the biggest morons in the world. Why? They had the data that the pokemon fanbase was older than ever and kids didn't care about pokemon and were playing shooters instead. But they still wanted to make pokemon for little childrem when the multiplayer has so many concepts that only an adult can understand. They deserve everything for being stupid fricking morons. Of course the games running and looking like shit even compared to other switch games didn't help.
Game freak probably made a few billion in the time it took to type your post.
Pokemon prints money like no other.
Pokemon is the one people care about though. That is the one they buy.
Well, evidently that's not true because they are also buying Palworld
No one does this outside of china though. Pokemon fans are global since it is such a huge cultural milestone.
Game Freak doesn't care for Pokemon they've even publicly stated that they're currently more focused on their next project that will be more popular than Pokemon.
Yes, they are that delusional.
Foot
Pal world is legitimately better at realizing the Pokemon fantasy than the latest Pokemon games
>Pals can interact with the world and have utility outside of battle
>Even pals not in your party can be useful
>Combat is action oriented but retains the strategy element enough to still be meaningful
Poketrannies on absolute SUICIDE WATCH tonight.
Requesting an -Ack with Hangyu.
Never expected Palword to do so well, this game broke everyone and everything
Meme magic is real
>Meme magic is real
This! Anons said it was chinese assetflip and that became what it was to everyone because of meme magic. We still get chinese shills trying to convince us these chinamen were japanese. They cant combat the meme magic.
Ludosnobs hate it because it's successful despite being shoddily built, creatively bankrupt slop. Pokegays hate it because it's better pokemon game than the slop they've received, yet it's still bad, teasing them but not giving proper fulfillment. Nintentoddlers hate it because muh corporate loyalty. I hate it, but not because of the game itself, but because it reminds me what sort of mindless slop-guzzlers majority of humanity is. Personally, I might've played it if it wasn't in such pre-alpha state and the Not-Salazzle didn't have such a lame design.
You just described why pokemon is the highest grossing entertainment property on earth.
>I hate it, but not because of the game itself, but because it reminds me what sort of mindless slop-guzzlers majority of humanity is
Bro, you play Pokemon. You are a part of that majority
Everyone plays pokemon. We all grew up with it.
Translate it to chinese and its perfect.
>Seriously, how will Pokemon recover from this?
Recover from what? Did Pokemon stop selling, or start selling less because of it? They can't release Pokemon on PC, so whatever they're selling on Switch is their ceiling. And if they hit their ceiling in terms of sales, there is no point investing any more money on Pokemon than they're already investing.
Sales will decline heavily.
>b-but they'll still buy it!
You don't know that. Before Palworld, consumers felt their voice didn't matter, so they might as well buy the Nintendoslop. But now that Palworld has begun to destroy Pokemon's sales legacy, it has shown that there is no need to support Nintendo and Game Freak anymore. Star Wars also failed, so no, there is no such thing as a franchise too big to fail.
>Sales will decline heavily.
I doubt it
>consumers felt their voice didn't matter
Still don't matter if all you're doing is buying a different thing. You need to stop buying the old thing too, and I doubt people will stop
And it beat the only good pokemon game that came out recently, frick this world.
Just like with memes. 9 times out for 10 the worst games drop in January. Palworld keeping that alive.
Nintendo shareholders are screaming in the face of tendie execs right now about how much money they’re losing by not having their games on pc.
>TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE TENDIE
Did I get the bulk of the thread's content right?
>tendies are so mindbroken that they can't even use their sales copes anymore, and they're actually worried that it'll destroy SV's sales records
Prepare to have a nice day once it outsells SV, troony.
Why am I even supposed to care, though?
You aren't. Nothing will supplant pokemon. The shills know better than anyone else.
It is proto typically chinese
That's almost every thread on Ganker even if nobody is talking about Nintendo.
I find it ironic and funny people shit on Nintendo when PC gaming has become the most Reddit, casual and generic platform there is.
>SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY
Same shit, different slop. And this was only 7 months ago. You must be new here.
It's gonna be a lot of fun to rub this in in tendies' faces in tomorrow's sales thread, even if it won't appear on Famitsu's charts.
So why are we claiming it's China when it's a Japanese game?
Has all the characteristics of a cheap Chinese game.
It's tendies mindbroken from Genshin Impact and concluding that any unexpectedly successful game must be Chinese.
Because people have dealt with china and japan before.
Chinese company through and through.
It's japanese as much as Miniso is japanese
it has that chink soul coded into the game. But it really is japanese.
The chinese nature of it. My brother straight up refuses to get it because its chinese.
I'm sure they're really hurting because a couple of poltards aren't buying it lmao. 2 mil players, 3 mil soon
They definitely are. There are like 8 billion (with a b) people on earth. They cant even secure 1% of that.
Meanwhile, pokemon made 90 billion dollars (again, with a b).
Extreme cope + heavy trolling.
Because demons always lie. And that is why you must never talk to them, kill them at the first chance you have.
A schizo obsessed with BG3/Larian has told himself the chinese made the game, with absolutely no proof, then spams this nonsense like wildfire. Even if it was true, it wouldn't matter. but it isn't true. He just has a mental problem.
Because this isnt our 1st rodeo.
To get as much people as people in the hatewagon, same reason why poketards claim the game was made entirely with AI.
as much people as possible*
Asian things I like are made by japs, asian things I dislike are made by chinks.
Simple as.
Extreme pokeweeb cope
Arr rook the same.
Pokémon allowed them to use the aesthetic as they are both from Japan and they respect each others work. Nintendo probably just looked at pal world and thought it’s honest to the aesthetic and the gameplay is also there to back it up. It doesn’t make games like these look bad by any means.
if Zelda is anything to go by Nintendo will not give a shit, and just releases another lazy Pokemon game because their target audience is not the loud minority that wants improvements, but the silent majority of mindless consumers that will buy the brand no matter what.
Nintendo gamers are so religious that competition means nothing
Tendies are killing themselves now that Pokemon is no longer a cash cow, and Switch 2 has just lost a system seller.
Pokemon is still the moneymaker though
Pokemon fans will always buy pokemon. It is a lifestyle to them.
pokemon deserves to die, that is why.
PLA was 8.5m in 7 days. Still 1.5m and a few days to go(and it will do it).
The amount of cope from both poketraniess and paltards (aka steamtrannies and snoys) ITT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TENDIESISTERS DON'T TELL ME THAT FOR ONCE ERIC WAS RIGHT ABOUT POKEMON?!
I thought he didn't exist. Make up your mind.
When everybody is talking about game freak i know that only moron spamming "tendies" is that guy. Dude will be the same until the day he dies. He is that mentally ill.
Pokébros it's so over...
Move over Toxtricity, there's a new sexy punk lizard in town.
A cowboy game called Red Dead Redemption 2 sold 12 million in 3 days.
People love that game almost as much as pokemon.
List of copes now that tendies have become deranged:
>it's a pokemon ripoff
>um actually this has nothing to do with pokemon, why do you guys keep comparing the two?
>nintendo doesn't feel threatened by this, lol
>nintendo will sue palworld
>it's ai generated, so it's bad
>the developers stole the models
>it's fotm
>it's made by the chinese
>it's only influencers who are playing this
>it's only bots raising the numbers
>pokemon sold more, so it's better
>7 million copies isn't a lot, any game developer can do that
>it's impossible for this game to have more than 7 million players in five days, any game that surpasses that number in a short amount of time is obviously phony
>uh sweetie did you forget that pokemon scarlet and violet did 10 million in three days?
>I've never heard of this game until now, so all the engagement must be fake
>the only people who like this game are snoys
>everyone praising it is just part of a discord raid
>this game is anti-christian and occult
>supporting palworld means you support communism
>uh sure the modern pokemon games suck, but that doesn't mean you should support this game even if you genuinely like it
>actually the ones playing this are pokemon fans
>sorry, sweetie, but it's palworld fans who are actually seething
>ugh, can't you see how pathetic you are for shilling an ark clone?
>sure thousands of pokemon fans online are seething about this, but my two friends and I who love pokemon also love this, so clearly pokemon fans actually love this
>Ganker is one person
>anyone not slurping survivalslop asset flip is a tendie pokeman
Beyond moronic
Lol, I've seen a few people use the same contradicting copes about how Palworld's sales are fishy, but SV's are not. Literal doublethink.
That is a lot of coping by chinese upset people aren't falling for their marketing.
Steamcharts show china is who is playing it. I dont care lol let them have their shovelware.
>Steamcharts show china is who is playing it.
>Outside of china it doesn't really exist.
>game doesn't specifically peak during their hours
>1 million players well before and after east asian hours
>china is the only country in east asia
Uh huh, keep coping bro.
Seriously though we need to see the sales divides by regions. I'm very positive that this game is a success in japan but i could be wrong.
No reason to cope really. I hope the chinese enjoy the game. It didnt take off outside china but that is fine.
There are 1.2 billion chinese and they have feelings too.
You're a moron, holy shit.
Please drink the tasty chemicals under the sink.
>1.2 billion
More closer to 800mil
>closer to 800mil
you mean china is botting its population numbers too?
Impressive list. I’ve already seen a ton of tendies use these copes, sometimes even the ones that go against each other. You should add the cope that no one’s angry about this, since that one has popped up a lot lately.
saved
kek nice compilation
I can't take my eyes off this trainwreck
Ironically their rhetorical sputtering is probably the closest thing to machine learning of this whole ordeal.
Throwing shit against the wall until it sticks is big time AI behavior.
What I don't get is why are pokegays and tendies seething so much about this game.
If anything this might finally get Game Freak to move their asses and innovate with the next game.
This is might be a win for pokemon players in general and instead they seethe and want it gone.
>What I don't get is why are pokegays and tendies seething so much about this game.
That is the narrative the shills are spamming.
No one cares, but they operate on agitprop due to their govt brainwashing them.
>n-no one cares!
Lmao, shills like Joe Merrick were seething about it on Twitter. “No one is actually outraged” is the brand new cope, I see.
Correct. It's a video game lad, no one cares. China can buy what it likes and humans will buy what they like.
We can both exist happily.
holy seethe, you sound do fricking defeated over this dumb game lmao
Nope. No reason to be defeated. I like when games do well even if only in 1 territory. There is a burgeoning chinese gaming market, let them vote with their wallets like everyone else
Complete fricking Palworld sweep.
>xbox
literally who gives a frick. Everyone is playing on steam.
>literally who gives a frick
1 People who dont have to pay for it because its on Game Pass.
2 It counters the narrative (from snoys) that Xbox players don't play Japanese games, making it okay for Japanese devs to skip the Xbox platform in favor of PlayStation.
Xbox players go one post without screeching about snoys challenge.
Legends Arceus is a steaming pile of shit though
Imagine his seethe
Lmao, is his channel still around, how was it called?
I'll write a comment recommending him this new cool game he surely doesn't know about.
Nintendo Memories
>over 1 million players during peak western hours
>n-no one cares....only china is playing it...
You don't know what a chart looks like if only one country plays a game, Black person. The butt blasting of schizophrenics that this dumb game causes is hilarious.
This is correct. China cares, no one else does. It's fine they are like that with lol mein and mooshoo patties too.
Keep crying, bro. You need to learn how to do better research.
Your chart literally shows China hours being popular, dumbass.
That's the point you fricking moron. That's what a chart looks like when only one country plays the game.
>Palworld needs to brag about beating the spin-off because it can't brag about not beating Scarlet and Violet's 10 mil in 3 days
holy kek you guys are pathetic
>heh your survival pokemon game have only beaten the survival pokemon spin-off that doesn't count
Pokepal it's time to genuflect
Does anyone have the "Water? They should be catching pokemon creatures!" Picture but with pals
>Palworld is an unfinished piece of sh-
The only morons are the ones that mass reply others
I replied to everyone that replied to me thoughever
I don't think I've played a single Pokemon game in my entire life
And I played mortal combat in the arcade
Its kind of a late millenial/early gen z thing. Middle class, where you could afford a gameboy but maybe not a home console. Not that you're missing out on much, but for a lot of kids in the age range thats basically all video games were
everyone at gamefreak should be ritualistically gutted for this shameful display, sudoku'd if you will
They should have killed themselves after pokemon X and Y if they had any honor
This almost makes me want to visit /vp/ and see how fricking bad it is. I had forgotten we needed an entire board to contain thier cancer.
Gentlemen, Im going on a dangerous adventure...
I checked it a couple days ago.
>a dozen threads about poketards pissing and shitting themselves over palworlds success
>a dozen threads from people talking about palworld
It was a mess then and I can only imagine how bad it is now.
I don't give a frick.
Nintendo games saved me when I was in a dark place. They were my childhood and my adulthood. I owe nintendo my life and honestly? So do you probably, you ungrateful piece of shit. So that's why I'll die fighting for them, because evil little c**ts want to frick with them despite the good they've done, despite all the people they've saved, despite all the lives they've changed for the better.
I am Link and you are Ganon, so taste my master sword b***h.
just because nintendo made you cut your wiener off. doesn't suddenly make their games good my fellow baitposter-kun
that's a copypasta
Saved
Are people surprised? Pokemon is pretty low effort even in the 2d era. Carries over to when they changed to 3d. Havent touched palworld but I'm sure it's also pretty jank due to the creature count making it time-consuming to make really nice animations so they just won't bother.
>it's okay if Palworld is dogshit slop garbage because my official chinpokomon dogshit garbage games are slop too
skyrim is an absolute shitfest with its bugs, and look how recognized it is
if this game is popular, despite its glitches or bugs, it's for a reason
Didn't SV sold 10 million in 3 days and at double the price? There is a convo for Pokemon and other Nintendo games missing out on PC money, and I imagine their next sharholder meeting to bring this to them. But I doubt that an early access open world crafting survival asset flip game is part of that convo, when it just shows how pcgays will eat just whatever shit streamers tell them to play.
Isn't S&V two games, S and V
funniest part is if palworld had 2 versions, it'd probably beat scat/vomit
Tendies have no response to this. They know it’s not a strawman.
>Japan doing these memes
>When they are the first consooming Pokemon nu slop
This is how every fanbase responds, other than tendies.
More games like Silent Hill? Sweet.
Inspired by Metal Gear Solid? Nice.
Like a modern StarCraft? Awesome.
Doom clones? Sounds neat.
No one whines about the endless 2D Zelda clones, 3D Zelda clones (Souls-like is an evo of 3D zelda), Metroidvanias are loved
The problem is that all the good people left Pokemon after Gen 5, you like gen 6 you look like your pic rel
Digimon, youkai watch, take notes
PalGODS I kneel...
old data
last 24 hours in steam charts shows 2 million peak
It’s over for Pokémon. This outselling PLA shows that this is not a fad.
Literally me. Frick Nintendo for never releasing an official Pokemon game on PC. I want my Pokemon MMORPG, you Jap fricks!
Tendies seething, you love to see it
recorver of what? they put minimal effort and budget and still make millions, and they sell it $60 same d/p remakes
>and they sell it $60 same d/p remakes
They still refuse to make Battle Frontier?
Did it at least have Platinum's fire mon pool or just Ponyta all over again?
>new game that is nothing like pokemon keeps being compared to pokemon
I don't get it
I don't like crafting games
I don't like gaas games
I don't like MMOs
Anyone who likes any of these 3 types of games has absolutely no standards and will play any old tedious boring shit.
I don't like you
Anyone who's you is a giant homosexual
>tendies brag about how successful their franchises are
>seethe once those same successes are used to criticize Pokémon’s meager growth
>Palworld devs try to release their game on Switch
>Nintendo forbids it
>next Pokémon sells 20 million copies, as usual
Game Freak doesn't have any competition. They never will. They control the world's biggest franchise, on the world's biggest gaming platform. Steam is peanuts compared to Switch, and the Switch 2 will be even bigger.
Nice fantasy, Tendoid.
He is right, the last two main games sold over 20M at full price tag. Palworld sold 6M in a range from 3 to 30 bucks when in almost every market that is not USA / EU is near $10.
Nintendo owns only 1/3 of the Pokemon Company, so they're down to $20 per copy, minus VAT and cartridge costs.
That the sole existence of Pokemon will boost Switch 2 potential sales, which is 100% nintendo gain. Also, Nintendo got 1/3 of all pokemon merchandise BTW.
PALSISTERS
WE GO FRICKED!
It's actually over
if these many people got on board and this game eventually gets full blown mod support i would unironically buy this
how is automation? logistics?
shepardpilled factorio sounds comfy af
>how is automation? logistics?
Pals do shit without your supervision like mining and growing food and put items into chests however you can't set produce X if it's less than Y, you have to set every production order yourself which is annoying.
It's no Factorio.
that can be fixed
imagine setting up railways and enroll fire mons to make train engines running
give em a little hat too
that would be really cute AND cool
I dont recommend if you are only playing because of factorio elements
you have to sacrifice too much design kino to accommodate buggy AI pathing
but if you have friends you should already be playing
It's only 60% complete, the automation is very barebones and the pathfinding of the pals is buggy. You need at least 1 floor tile worth's of space around a constructed object like a feedbox or you're going to see pals spazzing out or glitching through walls/floors
I made a mordor tower and pals have trouble in narrow spaces
>wtf happened
Almost every pile of dogshit gamefreak/nintendo/sony/etc has shoveled out their buttholes with multi million dollar budget was out done by a game that looks like it was made in a a chinese video game sweat shop is what happened. Get fricked I hope this shit becomes game of the year.
I what metrics Pokemon was outdone?
Everything, watching moss grow is more entertaining than any recent pokemon game.
Ok.
Watching moss grow is also more entertaining than Survival Early Access Crafting Open World, neverthoughbeitevergardless
And yet that is also more entertaining than fricking pokemon.
You’re probably fricking the wrong types, stay away from rock and ground and start with a water or normal type
spare me the pleasantries uther, i'm already balls deep in a vaporeon using koikatsu studio.
Palworld will consume Pokemon and replace it.
It's so funny
Temtem, Cassette Beasts, and others all failed because they didn't understand that people wanted Pokemon to evolve past turn based gameplay
Palworlds is the first Pokemon knock off to finally deliver on actual gameplay and they get to reap the rewards that have just been sitting on the table for 25 years
I think a big part of their failure is that their creature designs just suck
nah. im not saying turn based isnt boring to people but all of these clones make the mistake of treating the creatures like battle cards instead of god damn creatures. you just cant do as much with them. i already complained about that in monster sanctuary. that you cant even have your favorite monster outside because you need it for jumping or flying or swimming. its just a tool. not even petting is a thing in those games. wheres the interaction. its just not there. theyre just thrown into a storage box never to be seen again. seeing the pals outside doing shit makes them feel alive. obviously the gameplay makes it addicting but people really like feeling like the monsters are their buddies like in the anime. people dont just want autism number turn based grind. pokemon already does that so why bother with it?
>chinese
Reminder that the tencent-schizo had a schizo meltdown and said that Baldurs gate 3 director swen is behind palworld success.
People like to talk about Pokemon this and Nintendo that.
But honestly this bodes ill for a lot of other companies that are used to riding on their own coattails.
First one that’s comes to mind is Disney, who recently lost the Mickey Mouse copyright.
Another bad omen for IP landlord companies.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP EXPECTING BETTER FROM POKEMON IT’S DONE BY A SMALL INDIE COMPANY, SO IT’S ONLY NATURAL TO HAVE LOW EXPECTATIONS!
find it funny how zoomers dont remember when ark launched and the praise it got, its a sure success formula when done right
Its not even pokemon it is survival crafting shooter.
What happened with unreal engine haters?
>game that is sort of kind of conceptually similar to a Nintendo IP does well
>Ganker turns into a fricking madhouse on par with the gamergate era
its kind of a perfect storm
>pokegays are fuming
>biggest steam numbers since pubg
>possibly using AI
Lots of things people like to screech about rolled into one game
>newbie redditfrogposter thinking it knows how Ganker was during GG beyond screenshots taken during that time
lmao
Devs must be creaming themselves over this, suddenly get between one hundred and seventy five million and two hundred seventy million dollars dropped in your lap as indie devs.
I imagine they all got lots of phone calls and texts from """"old friends""""
Nah, the employees get maybe a 10k bonus at most and the rest goes straight into the CEO’s pocket
Pretty much, it’s kinda funny to see people support indie developers (not just this one) with the idea that more money goes into the employees’ pockets when it’s probably gonna be shuffled to upper management instead.
That's with Steam's cut, taxes, and regional pricing?
Calling it now, Palworld will outsell Scarlet/Violet by June 1st.
Tendiesisters… do we have any other copes if that happens?
Now that Pokemon and Nintendo lost
Will they finally start working on a good game that is fun?
_no
>only beat flops, not the real heavy hitters
lol
lmao even
I’m a Pokegay and I’m happy for Palworld. Gayme Freak needs course correction after releasing the unfinished bugfest known as Scat n Vomit.
>tendies thought that they would win nonstop because of the Switch
>handed a massive blow because of Palworld
Good, I want to see more bad things happen to Nintendo, which has gotten too complacent.
So true. Bullshit Nintendo is seen as the only game company that can do no wrong.
So I legitimately want to know if there's even a shred of evidence to back up any of the claims of either AI use or asset theft. This isn't me baiting, though if I was I'd say that anyway. But for real, I've been seeing the accusations everywhere, we all have I'm sure, but I've yet to see anybody actually provide conclusive proof of a damn thing beside that one guy with model rips who turned out to be rescaling shit just to line up. Is there any? Or is it just "trust me bro, just look at it"?
It's soulless open world survival crafting with autopilot. Those games always sell big and the Pokemon aesthetic gets consoomers even more excited. Also streamers are pushing it.
Gaming is pretty shut, but I feel it's going to get shittier with even more empty world bullet sponges.
pokemon is boomer slop
palbros won
>Scarlet/Violet soled ten million in 3 days
>five million each
It's over
I don't get it. How are survival games that popular? There are no objectives, no story. Wtf do you even do all the time?
it's pretty comfy for a survival game
is there anything in pokemon scarlet that has as much personality and soul as this guy?
Sorry, Meowstic isn't in SV. Try again
>he doesn’t know
Correction. Not in SV that isn't you paying another 60 smackums the make the game even more unplayable.
>d-d-doesnt count
Ok here’s another one. It really captures the palworld aesthetic by also having a giant ball of shit. Let me know where you’re moving the goalposts next
>Here's a shit Pokemon design! HAHA, that'll show you!
Weird deffense. but okay
The poor man's depresso
All the hype for Pokemon Day is dead. It's over.
Tendiesisters... if this outsells SV, we'll have to conduct a suicide ritual...
>suicide ritual
Troons already have that
>Pokemon BTFO
What a soulful happening.
Pokemon deserves this for being so unbelievably rage-inducingly low quality slop shit for so many years