Palworld devs talk about going bankrupt from server fees.
>PocketPair's CEO brought up the topic of Palworld's server fees, which are expected to exceed 70 million yen (around $480,000 USD based on recent exchange rates) for January due to the game's unexpected success.
>They have decided to ask Microsoft to come help them.
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oh noooooo $480,000! How am I supposed to buy my 5th yacht now? Frick these greedy pieces of shit.
kys
you first greedy b***h
You are right, its a lot of upfront money, but the problem is Server costs pile up. So they don't have problems now, but its EA and a cheap one at that. In one year that money will be gone. Its pretty common for devs to forget about it and frick up when not planning a way to get monthly income.
then why did they make an online multiplayer game in the first place? would they be better off if they just shut down the servers and made it single player? if yes, then they should do it. if no, then they should stop whining about it. this seems like a complete nonissue.
It's not "online multiplayer" - it just has multiplayer that's primarily player or server based, they were just stupid enough to create "official" servers instead of leaving it up to the community.
sounds like they should start charging a service fee for access to servers, like minecraft realms. that shit is less than $10 a month and somehow they manage it. seems like a simple solution.
If they're stupid enough to keep hosting official servers, I at least agree with you. But I feel they shouldn't be hosting official servers, personally. Leave that to the community. There's a reason most people think MC's Realms are stupid, and community-run servers, even the scummy p2w ones, are so much more popular, and how Hytale/Hypixel even got as big as they were.
sounds like they want to have their cake and eat it too. The official servers are helping their playercounts but they don't want to pay for them because they are Japanese israelites and literal crypto bros. They are probably are trying to justify mtx right now.
think as the server cost as a hole at the bottom of a bucket and sales being water being poured inside said bucket
if the water going in is less than the one leaking out it will quickly drain that shit and the dream of pails of water will be over
Average GenPalpha moron's level of reasoning right here lol. Same group who thinks literally tracing over assets isn't shameless because "uhhh they don't LE OWN designs like that lol!!!"
how on Earth could you squander that much profit with that amount of money? Its not even comparable. Even mentioning bankruptcy is extreme hyperbole and you are buying into it hook line and sinker.
Yatchs are investments, they hold their value. That's why rich people buy them.
yeap. then people take a 4k service like YouTube for granted.
I don’t care. I WILL use an adblocker and I WILL waste google’s resources doing it, and I WILL like it
aren't the official servers 1 billion ping shitfests? why even keep them running?
It won’t matter because even if they paid this month rent they still need pay for the other months and forever.
shrinking userbase and likely increase in dedicated servers. How come rust is doing just fine?
Suffering from success much? Should have made the game single player optional.
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90% chance they're using some shitty proprietary cloud server from Epic games that charges out the ass for a CCU above ~100.
Yes
That'll be 12% with an extra 10% for server costs and 5% tip.
MUH THIRTY PERCENT IS TOO MUCH
30% is too much unless your Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony then it's okay
Epic Online Services are a suite of network tools similar to SteamWorks, they are at best P2P connection servers and authentication servers. Epic does not offer servers in any form, you clueless fricking morons
Epic provides cloud services? I know they have their online services but I don't recall it actually providing actual servers?
deserved
>he's actually right
When has Epic ever been the right choice for anything? Seriously?
didn't this slop easily make over a 100 million? and it's peak active user base on steam went down by like one million players. Next month the servers are going to cost like what 300k? The month after like 200k? Make this pokeslop make sense.
Why not just make the user host?
Oh wait they can't program
It is even possible to sell games on steam that allow the user to host? My only experience with hosting was with Hamachi, and you needed to share your IP.
>and you needed to share your IP.
Hey, guess what Steam does by default if it can't properly route you to a session via one of their network relays....
What? Yea there's tons of them.
You absolutely can host, however if you want to interact with other users you probably want to keep on the official servers since you can modify the game to your hearts content, you can't transfer saves from local to multi and back.
correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that Steam games allow users to host the games in terms of running the server software and game logic, but then they route the network traffic through an HTTP server for the convenience of the users. Without the intermediate server, the users will have to do some port forwarding or make an exception in the firewall. This is normal for hosting an Internet game server, you'll have done if if you've ever run a Unreal Tournament server or something like that. Most users can't/won't do that so the game companies provide the intermediate server solution.
For a persistent massively multiplayer game you can't expect users to be hosts so you have to pay full server costs, including much more CPU and Memory than you would need for simply rerouting network traffic.
>Oh wait they can't program
hows that working out for you, homosexual? anything you work on made millions in sales or did you forget to include gameplay?
>Palworld is two weeks old
>Palworld gays already arguing like PokeBlack folk going "B-BUT LOOK AT THE SALES" at anything that isn't worship
Embarassing.
Anon they're one in the same, there's both a lot of overlap in current pokemon gays and there's the antipokemon gays who used to play Pokémon who latch onto anything remotely pokemonlike.
Can't tell if you're bone apple tea'ing "one in the same" or legitimately think that's the phrase
>Oh wait they can't program
But enough about Game Freak.
Unreal has dedicated server functionality built in. Even singleplayer unreal games are just local hosts. It's an engine born from multiplayer games, this really doesn't require much programming knowledge at all.
>Why not just make the user host?
You can easily host your own server, but the morons made it that you can't direct connect if the server has a password, and the community server browser only shows 200 results at a time so you have to scroll to find it
They sold 12 million copies on steam. At 30$ - 10$ steam cut that's still 240 million in revenue, how am i supposed to believe the server fees are impacting them in any way
and add in another 10-15$ for American taxes they steal you cant opt out of. international game companies on steam get fricked they need to move to newzealand already America has no right to leech money from gamedevs
>international game companies on steam get fricked
No they don't, are you fricking moronic? Over 75 countries, including the entire western world, have unitary tax treaties with the USA. You don't pay American tax unless you're an absolute fricking moron who doesn't register their national business tax ID with Valve and therefore doesn't get American tax exemption.
>At 30$ - 10$ steam cut that's still 240 million in revenue
Way to completely ignore taxes, DOUBLED taxes no less due to the US/Japan tax treaty being shit, so they're paying US taxes and Japanese taxes. Also apparently in your head the office is free, overhead is free, employees are free.
Wow an irresponsible dev, making irresponsible decisions!?!
wait, who the hell is using "official" servers?
>CEO
so it's fricking nothing. the CEO is just being pissy that he can't shovel himself an extra half mill each month.
Didn't they sell like 12 million copies? What kind of mismanagement would lead from 12 million sales to bankruptcy?
Tell them to shut down Craftopia so they can save money, not like they're supporting it anymore anyway.
You just know Microsoft is salivating at mouth to come to their rescue and secure future deals with this company.
>western media
I don't believe a single word. Nonstop hit pieces for over a week now.
>>They have decided to ask Microsoft to come help them.
HAHAHAHAHA XBOX finally has a monster collecting competitor with Pokemon! Nintendo is shaking in their boots!
Competitor? As if Nintendo is doing anything with Pokemon.
Pokemon GO won't repeat itself
>They have decided to ask Microsoft to come help them.
Doubt.jpg
It's true.
>One of its biggest game pass launches.
Did they unintentionally admit that Hi-Fi Rush didn't do as well since they last said they only had 2 million players for that game?
2 million is good, but Palworld did 7 million, so it's not surprising it's #1 on gamepass.
They're talking about Azure not fricking Phil Spencer lmao
>zoomers unironically think being bought by Microsoft is good
>when Microsoft has spent 10 years buying studios and literally nothing of worth has come out of it
>when Minecraft got turned into woke cancer because of them
Slopworld is already as shitty as your average Xcuck gay studios game. It's worse than Sea of Thieves.
Are you fricking serious, boomer? Minecraft is a household name with kids because of Microsoft. It's literally a billion dollar IP because of them. Palworld could BE the next Pokemon if Microsoft plays their cards right.
And Minecraft is not even a shadow of it's former self.
>Palworld could BE the next Pokemon if Microsoft plays their cards right.
It is going to be Pokemon, in the sense that it's going to be low effort monster catching franchise with perpetually outdated graphics.
Black person modern minecraft is better what rhe frick are you smoking wiener Black person.
Ah yes, modern Minecraft is the best, what with every fricking server being some roleplay shit with 5 billion rules and the main game getting two new blocks and another enemy mob once every 2 years.
Modern Minecraft is literally old minecraft except you get the "privilege" of voting on which 1 of 3 options gets added by the 4-billion dollar pricetag company owned by the world's largest Computer OS & one of the biggest consoles in the world because "adding all 3 would be too hard on our poor indie devs :(" and it's usually the shittiest option of the 3 that wins too, see: Those fricking Phantoms or Bees (which a Bees mod has existed for decades and they didn't even copy close to a tenth of what it does). They'd probably spend less and get more by buying up mod rights and implementing those.
Modern minecraft is better, homie you smokin some serious shit.
Minecraft was big even before the Microshit buyout
>because of microsoft
yes because microsoft was the cutting edge of youtube gaming slop that children watched and played off of
You moron, its popularity started declining from its peak right around when they bought it.
Yes because they totally did something with Banjo-Kazooie.
Daddy Phil to the rescue
why not just make multiplayer P2P you fricking morons
Just use your own server. And make sure you have it backup on the regular.
They are doing everything in their power to make me want to hate this game.
Doesn't that just want to make you play it more to spite these pathetic corporate mouthpieces?
No, because I dont want to support Microsoft if they are going to be shoving their first way up the ass of this IP now.
Relax, bro, it's just some servers. You should be worried when you hear the news that Pocketpair has been acquired.
>don't buy palworld it's plagiarism!
>don't buy palworld it's a.i.
>don't buy palworld it's lazy and made with free modules!
>don't buy palworld it's servers will die
Man, news outlets are trying everything they can to bury this game.
and everytime one of these pops up the game hits another milestone kek, wouldn't be surprised if it hits 25 million this week.
I imagine that Microsoft will end up buying them up.
>Microsoft will end up buying them up.
Halo collaboration when? They could probably make a lot of money with their armors and weapons
>They could probably make a lot of money with their armors and weapons
This isn't 2007, no one gives a frick about Halo anymore.
Exactly, that's a way to gather interest after all the frick ups
What interest? No one cares about Halo because it's been 15 years since there's been an entry that wasn't shit.
Bunch of models on an unrelated game won't change anything.
>it's been 15 years since there's been an entry that wasn't shit.
Wait, really?
>Evergrande suddenly goes over
>totally "Japanese" dev (no really! we totally swear!) supposedly "independently" funded (but needed China to get off the ground
>Suddenly, needs money
lol
lmao
how moronic are you that you're still trying to spam this false narrative this many weeks later?
>false
prove it wrong Ziganwu
They need to talk with the CCP, to get shit published in Chink land.
How did a joke tweet by the CEO become such an article?
Is it online like MMO or just single player game?
Server fees for what? I thought the game relied on players to host off their own networks for multiplayer, including the dedicated server client if they want more than 4 players.
All the traffic is being routed through their servers even if it's "p2p"
An anti-piracy measure I guess? Even though this is literally costing them more.
Considering Pirated and non-pirated versions can play together I doubt that's the reason.
Though I'm amused by the idea of my pirated version costing them money.
No its not, otherwise everyone would have 500ping playing this shit game
>Microsoft getting ready to buy Palworld because they have pretty much killed all their franchises
oh no no no
the game was a massive success, there is no way its unaffordable
this is some minimum wage pizza party bullshit. obviously no online game is gonna run its servers forever but this is just nonsense to get people talking
now's your chance Ganker
I bet they are already brainstorming new pals, guns and regions, maybe even Palworld 2.
>we value empathy towards our values above all
>valuing "empathy" more than competence
Damn, they've gone full SJW in record time.
Their values are making hot waifumons everyone wants to frick.
We both know what a studio means with "values".
>hot waifumons everyone wants to frick.
You mean third world furry untermensch.
The dick is never wrong, the dick is always correct, if you don't follow the will of your dick you will surely fail because your dick knows what's better than your brain.
Palworld is successful because of the waifumons.
Do you really wonder why other nations consider you lesser beings, spics? Why your countries are hellholes?
A bold thing to say, coming from the country where white girls frick dogs.
>south american proceeds to confirm that he is, indeed, a south american
Don't you have some /trash/ ERP thread to find and "goon" over, Wenceslao Roberto William?
I'm North American, but I would frick all and every single Pal, my testosterone is just that high.
>I'm north american
What's the difference? You are the same skin color and IQ as south americans.
Those south americans sure live rent free in your head, bro.
>be amerimutt
>be a zoophile Black personfricker
>I-IT'S BECAUSE I HAVE HIGH TEST
Everytime.
What is you frickers obsessions with americans?
I find it hilarious how, at the end, it's the same as Pokemon: it doesn't matter that the game is shit, the furshits are still going to eat it up because, due to their coomer, half-way-to-troonydom brain they just have one interest in their npc lives.
Based and Truthpilled, their waifumons are better than anything from Scarlet and Violet
>has to compare the "waifus" of games because the games themselves are legitimate 0/10s that are mechanically and graphically two generations behind everything else
I'm starting to realize that every single game furgays defend, Palworld, Pokemon, FNAF, are just awful games not even worth touching.
No, valuing empathy (and passion) actually worked in their favor, or else the based convenience store /k/ guy would've never been hired.
No, what worked in their favor is having a legion of furshits willing to eat up anything that even remotely panders to them.
Same happened with Five Nights at Freddy's.
Didn't work for the other monster-catching clones though, did it?
No, because they didn't copy Pokemon's artstyle, which is specifically made to pander to furgays.
Their motto allowed the to understand what the market wanted and allowed them to shatter steam records
And yet they only delivered ARK plus Pokemon, the pinnacle of goyslop.
Of course it sold to the NPC masses, they still buy Pokemon and play ARK, after all.
Well yeah, goys want goyslop, obviously. That's how you sell games now
>all it does is improves on two massively popular formulas
Great observation pal
>but I don't like the formulas so they're... bad!!
Well enjoy the FOTM Jaction game that Ganker circle jerk allows you to enjoy this month then.
>improves
How?
It ads nothing to them.
You grind, you build bases and you catch the not-Pokemons. There's no unique elements here.
>Well enjoy the FOTM Jaction game that Ganker circle jerk allows you to enjoy this month then
Palworld?
I'm gonna work for poggeymans
>menstrual leave AND pregnancy leave
having a vegana is fricking overpowered
>have sex and get pregnant
>get free money
>dont have sex and dont get pregnant
>get free money
NERF CORRECTION REQUIRED
>he would sacrifice strength and higher IQ for that vapid shit
You zoomers really are all honorary trannies.
>Strength
Post those baby wrists
Yeah I would, because then I can have a man take care of all the dumb shit like "strength" and "high IQ" for me.
And because you are a zoomer, and thus, a feminine sissy.
Every man should be driven by this specific JFK quotes: don't pray for easy lives, pray to be stronger men.
JFK also ended up getting shot in the back of the head.
If I was actually able to become a (white) woman, and not some mentally ill freak, I'd take it in a heartbeat.
>JFK also ended up getting shot in the back of the head.
Yeah, because he had the balls to promise he'd get rid of the CIA for being a bunch of incompetent morons.
>If I was actually able to become a (white) woman, and not some mentally ill freak, I'd take it in a heartbeat.
You will never be a woman, but with that mentality you are certainly not a man either.
You better be some hot chick who's good with kids, can maintain the house, and be ready for sex anytime on command if men are gonna be doing the heavy lifting in the relationship
If not then LMAO
>Nippon only
>be Pokemon fan
>talk about anything but the gameplay because it sucks
>be Palworld fan
>talk about anything but the gameplay because it sucks
>someone links a video showing RDR2, an actual well made videogame
>both start seething
>those animations
Pokemon fans look at this and call it a revolution
H-Hayai!
Why is it that of all games centered around monsters, only Monster Hunter bothers animating them properly?
Hoping this thing barrel rolls like in the trailers once this game properly releases
Picrel: Palworld in a nutshell
>>They have decided to ask Microsoft to come help them.
>Microsoft
PALWORLDBROS... it's OVER...
Microsoft will turn Palworld into more SJW western goysloppa and kill the game.
I hope Palworld success causes a massive explosion of monster catching games.
Why, it's a genre defined by being toddler shit, having awful graphics and mediocre gameplay.
>Pokemon
>Palworld
>Digimon
>Yokai Watch
All of these games feel like they are perpetually two generations behind every other game in every way.
Not to mention it's embarassing to play them because of how they are obviously made for toddlers, feels like watching My Little Pony.
Palworld has guns, torture, murder, implied rape and slavery, that shit isn't for kids.
It is like calling SMT for kids when there is literally Satan in the roster of monsters you can use.
Palworld also doesn't have any gore system, the pals don't get injured, they don't show any signs of pain, when they die they just get swirly eyes like in the Pokemon anime when Pokemons get hit with a blast that should have torn them to pieces, and there's no slavery because the pals will always do their cute noises when they finish a task as if they are enjoying it.
And the "implied rape" is just like how in Pokemon people actually hunt and eat Pokemons: it's relegated to the Pokedex or some book and the devs will never have the balls to actually show it.
Palworld is to actual serious games what FNAF is to horror: there's only a tiny glimpse of what it claims to be, but it covers it all in a wrap of cutesy crap to not offend the millennials and zoomers who would start seething if you actually do all those things for real.
Just go read all the posts of "I JUST HECKING LOVE MY HECKING CUTE PALS" which obvious come from Pokemon fans who also shat up the franchise with their homosexualry. If you actually introduced ways to torture to injure, to mutilate and skin the Pokemons and force the players to do it they would all seethe and bail out.
Baldur troony post.
Never touched Baldur's Gate, I hate all RPGs with isometric cameras except Fallout 1 and 2.
The frick are you talking about?
You know that Pals get knocked out, because it would be annoying to have Pals die permanantly left and right in battles, and having to replace them. And that is ignoring all of the reactions pals have when they see their kinds murdered (varying from agressivity, to cowardcy). Also https://palworld.fandom.com/wiki/Hangyu
I am not saying Palworld is as dark as SMT, but I mean..Cmon, it isn't for kids exactly
nobody thinks the concept of satan is mature or scary except the specific kind of mental child known as a christian
SMT is rated 12 and up for human races
There are also literal dick shaped monsters.
Can't post ingame shots of Mara on a blue board without eating a temp ban. Yet it's rated 12 and up. It's kind of neat.
That's adult if you are a teenager.
What? Do you expect to game to have boring mature stuff like paying taxes and checking your mortgage?
I always thought a game that actually acknowledges that Pokemon in real life would be terrifying predators and more akin to living in the jurassic era would be interesting.
>Squirtle used Bubble
>it's super effective
Palworld isn't trying to be scary and realistic just because you can take a gun and shoot sleeping animals on the head.
>Palworld isn't trying to be scary and realistic
No, it's just the same childish tone as Pokemon, just with BB guns that don't actually damage the Pokemons.
Palworld would have been far more unique and fun if it was that way.
Sure thing bro, those boars are just giving me their spare boar meat and are totally not dead
They are dead, but that death is not shown in blood and gore, it's shown because they get swirly anime eyes.
It's all sanitized for kids.
Or when you eat them, which is just menu crawling and the same cooking animation all food gets, there's nothing in it that resembles webm related.
A Pokemon game that's a mix of Monster Hunter and RDR2's sense of realism when it comes to handling animals after killing them would be great.
How easy is it o preserve hide, I wanna wear deer skin.
It is called stylization, but that doesn't change the fact you go out and kill animals to consume their meat or get their skin, and more often than not you do it with a gun, preferably by shooting them on the head since it does more damage.
And if that same gun kills animals and there are humans in the game you can shoot with that same gun, then that means that every guy you ragdoll is actually just dead.
>It is called stylization,
No, it's called sanitation. Stylization is what Monster Hunter does, there you actually visibly hurt the enemies, make them bleed, mutilate them, they will scream and start limping in pain when severely hurt and then kill them and skin them, it doesn't try to hide that.
> that doesn't change the fact you go out and kill animals to consume their meat or get their skin
Yeah, and it's done in the exact same way even Pokemon itself would do if it stopped hiding away the fact that people eat Pokemon in Pokedex entries: by removing all the violence.
This is as adult as Fortnite or Dragon Ball.
For me is sopa de macaco, uma delicia
Isn't hanging them upside down basically a bug?
No, is a trap, you catch the little guys with it and do whatever with them, I think it also works on humans.
No, but it is a waste of resources since you are basicalling building traps just to hang your own pals. Doesn't even work as "decoration" because they are glitchy as frick and you'll have the pals constantly clipping through everything.
>A Pokemon game that's a mix of Monster Hunter and RDR2's sense of realism when it comes to handling animals after killing them would be great.
Bro this is insanely high scope, not even monster hunter has realistic carving
Adults trying to act like "adults" doesn't actually change as you get older.
>game earn BILLIONS
>too cheap to pay for $500k a month server
>that cost will go down like to like 1/10 or even 1/100 of that since players would naturally lose interest over time
they just want excuse to introduce MTX and predatory live services.
The Early Acces game "going bankrupt" how handy
>muh server fees
Bro like just use your millions in profits to buy a fricking server rack
Like dude, just plug that shit into some office.
NO REFUNDS, good job idling in the game for hours to pump the steam count numbers you shill morons.
The games has already made ~$350 million and more in sales. Factor in Steam's and Microsoft's cuts and that's still a giga shit ton of money. They can run their servers for the next 10 years if they wanted.
I can't wait for this early access game to prove to everyone it was never about being a good game but just money
everyone will say 'at least it was fun' when it goes unfinished after years or they get 'hacked' and it shuts down or it 'costs too much'
kek
gaming needs a crash
everything is aaa woke garbage or early access crafting survival slop or indie just to be indie meme games
>they're actually selling out to tencent
L M A O
Yikes, it's already over. It was fun while it lasted.
so this is why Nintendo doesn't own servers interesting
Why do you guys suddenly hate ARK so much?
They hate anything that's popular instead of just admitting that genre wasn't made for them and moving on
>ARK
>popular
Got your shitposting subject mixed up there, pal.
>why do you hate this poorly made, 300GB game that's the embodiment of Early Access survival slop
it looks ugly
its unoptimized
its 100+ gigs worth of space
>abysmal optimization
>more buggy than Palworld
>needlessly grindy to an insane, no-lifer degree
>needlessly takes hundreds of gigs of space
They've made $200.000.000,00 USD in revenue.
Surely they can spare 0,03% of that for running costs?
480k which go straight to timmies pocket btw. Each month
Obvious hyperbole
>>They have decided to ask Microsoft to come help them.
So the meme about M$ getting their exclusive pokeclone might be real after all
morons in this thread have no idea how servers work or how much they actually cost to maintain.
I thought it was mostly a single player game with dedicated hosts.
Just keep a couple official servers open and leave the rest to the community. There's no point in leaving a ton of official servers going
Source?
How to save gaming
>Buy into a live service game with a worthless currency like the Argentine peso
>Drive up the server costs
>Wait for triple A go to bankrupt
>Good games make a comeback