You're telling me you didn't pre-order your copy of gold edition? What are you waiting for? Ohhhhhh you must be trying to find a collectors edition copy in your area.
Unfortunately I was not fortunate enough to be blessed with the chosen genes, but at least I have this l o v e l y circumcision so I'm in a pack with their god.
I swear to god they are the fricking worst. Tryhard gays who are in a constant state of cope about Payday 3 on their gay subreddit and any attempt to shit on this Swedish shovel-ware results in pure nerd rage, they're even making memes to cope about the obvious shortcomings this piece of shit has coming lol
Former CEO of Overkill/Starbreeze, brother of Ulf Andersson. His incompetence almost bankrupted the company. Might've been involved in insider trading as well (or it might've been other people, don't quite remember). Is the guy who said "Your opinion, my choice" when it came to PD2's flashbangs (when they used to just spawn at your feet and immediately go off)
I hear people constantly compare that game to payday 3 (in that both are bad), what's the problem with it?
Very little nowadays. Darktide is incredibly fun even right now, and they're fully reworking the class system so that each class has 3 different subclasses with skill trees that you can mix & match, so we're going from 4 classes to 12, but it's actually way more than that.
anons who played the beta, thoughts?
It was ok. The levelling system is weird or just broken and the starter gun is terrible, but other than that it was alright.
It felt like a peashooter compared to the shotgun honestly. You pointed the shotgun at somebody and they died, the rifle needed multiple sequential headshots to kill anything, and good fricking luck with bodyshots. That was just on Normal/Hard too it's probably even worse on higher difficulties.
Weird, I thought the shotgun felt really weak. Granted I only used it in the closed beta which I only got into on xbox so the controller might have influenced my opinion. I think the shotgun skills are gonna be really good in the full release
Update your drivers. Performance was terrible for me on launch but new Nvidia drivers doubled my FPS. I run super low-res settings because I play a lot of Hi-Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet which can get crazy with the amount of shit on screen at once and I need the FPS, and the game runs like a dream. The only time it ever gets really bad is if I'm on a team with like 3 dudes with flamers or psykers with the flamer staff idk the name of it.
You don't understand, if the grind isn't Korean MMO tier for a single perfect gun then you won't have any reason at all ever to play the game and buy cosmetics!
8 months ago
Anonymous
They could have easily copied Deep Rock Galactic in terms of weapon and cosmetic progression, and people would have sticked. Nobody likes this outlandish and aggressive rng grind. Not even the autists sticked around.
I've just booted up the game again and they barely added any armour or armour colours that are worth anyone's time. The colour palette is also bland, uninspired and forgettable. Who's going to grind his soul away over some disgustingly looking brown, white or black armour? I'd say they are just creatively bankrupt and won't make a comeback regardless of how many more updates are to follow. What a disaster.
The crafting is fine. It's really easy to get a usable or good gun but it's ridiculously hard to get absolutely perfect gear. You also don't really need it. Darktide is an easier game than VT2 unless you're playing Auric missions which stacks tons of modifiers. If they added Red-tier items like how VT2 had them it would break the game because now every weapon players have is getting a 20% stat boost when it's already a little on the easy side.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>The crafting is fine.
Yeah no it's fricking awful. It's easily the worst system of any of the co-op games I've played.
8 months ago
Anonymous
They could have easily copied Deep Rock Galactic in terms of weapon and cosmetic progression, and people would have sticked. Nobody likes this outlandish and aggressive rng grind. Not even the autists sticked around.
I've just booted up the game again and they barely added any armour or armour colours that are worth anyone's time. The colour palette is also bland, uninspired and forgettable. Who's going to grind his soul away over some disgustingly looking brown, white or black armour? I'd say they are just creatively bankrupt and won't make a comeback regardless of how many more updates are to follow. What a disaster.
It's genuinely better than something like Deep Rock. The overclock system in that game is fricking aids because a lot of them are basically completely new, distinct guns from the base variant and there's literally no way to get them except by pure RNG. Darktide doesn't work like this, blessings will change the power of a weapon but won't make it completely different.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>It's genuinely better than something like Deep Rock.
Yeah, no. The grind for overclocks might be shit, but once you have them you can do whatever the frick you want with them. darktide you have to constantly deal with slot machines to even have a chance to get what you want. And blessings might not be quite as "game changing" as overclocks, but they can still significantly impact the effectiveness of a weapon
8 months ago
Anonymous
No bro just use a combat axe without brutal momentum or a heavy sword without headttaker, they're just as good!
8 months ago
Anonymous
Combat axes in Darktide are moronic why is a basic axe the best melee weapon in a Warhammer 40000 game. Hope they rebalance it for the big update it's so stupid.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Combat axes are somehow good? How so? What happened to the power sword?
8 months ago
Anonymous
There's a blessing for combat axes called Brutal Momentum that gives them infinite cleave if you kill 1 dude with a weak spot hit. You know, the 200+ damage light attack, fast-attacking weapon with infinite cleave. They're insane. They're also in no way bad against Elites so most people just run a bruh momentum combat axe as their main melee weapon.
Power swords are still great if you have Power Cycler 4, it's got less charged attacks now but it wipes hordes just like it did on launch just less efficiently. Still shit against Elites though and I never liked them because of that. The Devil's Claw Mark 4 is my favorite weapon probably.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Sure you don't *need* to be able to do what you want with your weapons, but it sure is a hell of a lot more fun and engaging when you can put whatever you want on your stuff when you want to experiment or try out new builds, rather than dealing with obnoxious levels of RNG.
Until they make the currency account wide I'm not interested. >weekly with the biggest payout is play 20 games >you can't use the rewards on other characters >this means you have to do it with each class so thats 80 games a week
yeah frick off
So they announced what is essentially the exact same dlc model from 2 that we all knew it would have, so what? It's not like it's day one dlc or something.
>so what? It's not like it's day one dlc or something. >when the game comes out the dlc will be officially day one
Please fricking read your post before replying
You're a complete moron, a season pass is not day one dlc, it's a pre-order for dlc that isn't out yet. If you can't play the dlc content on day one then it by definition isn't a day one dlc.
8 months ago
Anonymous
BY definition if there is dlc for the future and the game isn't out it IS day 1.
8 months ago
Anonymous
So if you pre-order that game that means I can play it right now? Because spending money means I have have instant access? I bet you're the guy who keeps posting the "graphics and art style are the same" bait threads.
God I wish fatshark had the capacity to release content on a reasonable basis like overkill. Maybe then their games would be less dead and I wouldn'tve had to wait almost 2 fricking years for Necromancer, although that's probably mostly due to darktide being shit.
I've loaded up the game yesterday after a long break and it's a complete joke. The game is so fricking barren and unfun in some regard. Wasted potential, and yet people shell out good money for their mtx costumes.
nta but yeah they lowered the enemy count, also health is the same across all difficulties the only things that change are damage, accuracy and apparently the ai. Going loud is still a slaughter but at least in the beta ammo was an issue. You had to actually rush the objective and not just shit there shooting shit forever.
You’ve probably played the first games level in 2 but it plays better in open because it was designed for it. The heist is a great showcase of overkills supernatural ability to make shooter combat feel great. Absolutely pick it up on sale, it’s a bit more objective based
>same game again 3
can someone explain what the fricking appeal of this game is? what can you do in this game? rob banks with janky as frick """"stealth"""" and kill cops just like the last two games?
1 and 2 play a lot different from one another (1 is a lot harder), 2 has plenty of great stealth heists, but 3 is fully revamping stealth to allow soft failure states, viable loud/stealth hybrid builds, and a myriad of small stealth features like luring and door closing.
If you don't get the appeal of a heist then there's really no helping you.
>viable loud/stealth hybrid builds
This will never. EVER. Be a thing. You may try to force it now while the game is new but skills will always be either loud or stealth, and eventually they'll add 8 more difficulties where stealth skills will get you killed in a microsecond if a cop looks in your general direction.
Perhaps, but for now it is a thing. Whether or not people choose to use these builds or just spam restart like pussies is a separate matter. I think these hybrid builds will in part be due to the lower level of skills, I've been theory crafting with the skill website and I struggle to use up a handful of skill points.
The developers have utterly failed to realize what exactly made Payday 2 a gigantic success, which was the base game constantly being on sale for two dollars plus the ability for it to run on potatoes. The playerbase existing in the millions to buy the DLC was only there because of these.
Payday 3 lacks both of those qualities on release, and will likely lack the latter for the entirety of its lifetime.
>playing Payday in the modern era
If you didn't play pre-safes then you never really played Payday during the golden era, you've only played the decline.
i know there are like "full time" PD players but i don't really get the appeal. it's kinda dull. if you want horde/wave shootan on quite dynamic maps, you have L4D, if you have gun autism PD definitely doesn't provide that, the gunplay is very shallow. you're left with the whole heist fantasy, but these games hardly even seem to play into that, they are more like dumb horde shooters with a VERY light heist theme in the very background.
its not like you are doing lots of planning routes and stuff on a whiteboard like a reverse rainbow six. there's not much to do in casing mode but walk around, mark some thing, and just try to get some extra points in stealth before starting the horde shootan mode.
but i'll buy it because it's cheap and i'm sure there's ~50 hours just having fun cracking some vaults and shooting cops.
if you tap fire you kill in one hit, or after popping off their helmet. but enemies are quite spongy if you just spray. so if people are complaining its literally a skill issue.
The heaviness of the theme varies by heist, obviously all the pd1 maps are very centered on the theme, 2 meanwhile has levels that aren't about a heist at all but still crime related. >skill issue
Oh you mean there are people out there that don't hipfire headshot every enemy? In Payday? How embarrassing.
If you want whiteboards, the second most recent heist in 2 (hostile takeover) has about 4-5 main objectives that can all be done any order simultaneously
It about moving through areas with no other objectives aside from defending things until they move the thing out of the way to move through the area. It's a great game, but aside from there being a lot of enemies it doesn't really resemble payday at all
I wouldn't say that, but they're obviously pretty different. L4D is mostly about moving from A>B on more or more maps and occasionally dealing with a horde of mostly melee enemies, whereas Payday is more about running around 1-3 maps completing a variety of objectives while dealing with a pretty constant horde of ranged enemies. Then there's the RPG elements, builds, etc.
lol have they already replaced shills with chatbots. lol. left 4 dead was a great game that still holds up a decade later.
meanwhile even the shills aren't talking about gayablo which was months ago
>pros
Stealth is much better
Armor isn't tied to a suit, just the amount of chunks
No more concealment
All of the previous means you don't have to reset every time you fail stealth
Shooting feels way better
AI is way smarter, cop assaults feel much more like a threat instead of brainless horde shooting
Considering the only heist in the beta was the starting heist it seems that they will be more complex overall instead of just ECM>Get everyone down>wait for drill
YOU CAN CLOSE DOORS >neutral
Overkill weapons
weapon unlocks based on level, attachments are unlocked based on weapon level (like some call of duties)
Less pagers in higher difficulties (overkill had 2)
Utility equipment seems kind of useless
Very little whacky skills like bulletstorm
RNG doesn't reset on restart >cons
Skill tree is kind of boring, entirely built with edge/grit/rush in mind
Civilian detection isn't shown properly (bug?)
Can't see ally pinged guards through walls for some reason
Yeah stealth is much more dynamic, you can do a lot more on casing mode, guards don't get alerted as long as you're in a public zone and they escort you out when you're on a private zone
>Considering the only heist in the beta was the starting heist it seems that they will be more complex overall instead of just ECM>Get everyone down>wait for drill
I don't want to doom post but I don't exactly see how that is a good indicator, I'd argue on the contrary. Maybe if it's good I'll finally give it a try because I never played the franchise.
If you played the 2 you'd know that ecm rushing gets old real fast and in the early days they had to rebalance multiple heists because it completely trivialized stealth and encouraged bad design
In PD2 ECM jammers block cameras, alarms and pagers for 45 seconds
you get 2 of them
A 4 man coordinated team can have 3 minutes of ECMS (even more with pocket ECMS)
that means that 75% of the classic heists can just be bruteforced in "stealth"
in 3 this is no longer the case (atleast in the beta heist), even if you don't like stealth loud is just about the same, mechanic-wise
played the open network beta with only one heist
i liked the gunplay and reduced scale, but ttk felt weird
maybe its a progression thing, like early weapons arent supposed to be good, but even on normal i couldnt oneshot any of the armored cops with a revolver headshot
More Payday that feels good to play. If you liked P2, go get the basic edition for $32 on GMG and wait to grab what DLC you actually care about later down the line or for sales to snatch Silver/Gold upgrades at bigger discounts. Paying double the price of the game to play three days earlier is a FOMO moron tax, especially after their servers exploded multiple times during the last beta
Eight heists with only four more planned in the next year of battle passes seems content light coming from a decade old P2. but it's a decent start.
I feel like it’ll be better than we think but worse than they thought, we’ll find out when we have full skill points. It’s a very interesting conscript despite the buffs themselves being unimpressive
I'd rather just keep the buffs active instead of trying to cycle through them to maximize benefits.
Even if you plan out a system of gaining and consuming buffs, how are you going to keep track of how you've allocated your 21 points when they're all spread out in every tree? >I need to stand still and aim down sights for at least 1.5 seconds to get x buff >also need to switch to my secondary and only hipfire and reload when not empty to get y buff >but if I slide I'll lose it and get z buff instead, so I need to grab a guy and shove him to get it back >also if I heal I lose all my buffs and they get turned into extra health
>is this the new shill target
Only looks that way because I'm here, it's a shazam target in reality. Non-stop complaining from people who don't like the series because a bad thing happened 8 years ago and so they latch on to every small thing they can find to get irrationally angry about.
There's also no orcs or hook noses in payday 3, so enjoy
I didn't play during the lootbox thing but it always seemed overblown to me, its a completely cosmetic thing that copied the system that valve has done for years
It wasn't completely cosmetic when it initially released, skins could have a variety of stat bonuses on them that you couldn't get otherwise. That only lasted about 8 months though, when Starbreeze I think bought the publishing rights for Payday from 505, and made the stat bonuses a separate thing you could get for free and add to any weapon, as well as making all future safes free to obtain and open (and eventually all safes).
Yeah that was the actually shit part. They also said I think around the game's release that they would never add microtransactions to the game, so that didn't really help either.
If you've been in some of the other threads or browsed the steam forum and seen people complain you'd think the lootboxes were added yesterday and that Bo Anderson killed their parents.
>destroyed 2 over time with stupid game breaking updates, also bloating the file size to the point where i cant even download it anymore >3 has a day 1 season pass and in game currency, the beta was buggy as shit and ran terrible >published by deep silver
and despite all of that I'm still looking forward to this garbage fire
I hope they don't go nuts on the DLC. Payday 2 was absurd but it also came from a different time, SURELY there's a better way they can roll out both paid/free content that isn't an in game shop or battle pass
>SURELY there's a better way they can roll out both paid/free content
Yes, FOMO seasons with paid battlepasses and missable events, the same way every other GAAS handles it
it really doesn't matter, gaymers eat this shit up, OVK could charge you a monthly subscription for the game and they would still say it's an amazing game
People got sick of 2 because it just turned into DLCslop, this gives them a fresh start to bring back old players before they start the same cycle as 2
Call me a fomo moron cause I'm counting the seconds until I can play my gold edition >battle passes
There are no battlepasses[...] >4 heists a year
That's been the standard for the last 3 years
Nothing stops them from adding it post launch after the refund grace is over, tf2 safes if you need a reminder.
Call me a fomo moron cause I'm counting the seconds until I can play my gold edition >battle passes
There are no battlepasses[...] >4 heists a year
That's been the standard for the last 3 years
well, maybe they made a mistake in their marketing if a lot of people have the impression the game includes one???
That's just cope for being a presumptuous moron. They apparently should have known that giving absolutely no indication that something would be in the game would somehow lead complete cretins to think it's definitely in the game
>Always online
This game has a built in expiration date, and what's worse they went back and nuked Payday 2 to make sure you can't just keep playing that instead. Frick these loser piece of shit devs.
I will eat my fricking hat if they shut the servers down without creating a p2p option
Also payday 2 is perfectly fine, I was playing it yesterday, schizo
The devs themselves in one of their diaries said they wanted the art gallery to feel extremely pretentious and up their own asses about it. So that outfit being in the game might also reflect that opinion.
The devs themselves in one of their diaries said they wanted the art gallery to feel extremely pretentious and up their own asses about it. So that outfit being in the game might also reflect that opinion.
>the m32 grenade launcher in the beta was decent
It really wasn't. For an "overkill" weapon it just made cops stumble a bit with every shot that didn't hit them directly. If you really only have 12 shots with the damn thing then it really needs to feel like a massive killer weapon, which it definitely didn't.
Looks like shit, runs like shit, cops walk like they have shit running down their pant legs, pd2 has been shit for close to 10 years. No, the game is shit and op is chowing down yet again.
If they do more fricking promo content I'm going to be so mad. Yeah here's your heist game with LORE except the third wall is broken every job because fricking john wick, bodhi from the point break remake, two random fricking youtubers, and jimmy from hardcore henry are canon heisters. Might as well put fricking payday doritos in your ad - I mean promo tie in
tie in's are guaranteed in the long run. With how popular it is in fortnite and cod there's no way overkill will pass it up. I just hope they don't do eceleb shit again. If it makes you feel any better they announced the first 4 post launch heists and they're all payday related
Bros, was it just me or was the game completely devoid of enemy chatter? The meme reminded me how sovl pd2 was. Please tell me they will fix on release.
Me and some friends got payday 2 and it felt like such a letdown. Its just L4D but with police instead of zombies and no decent AI control of the enemies
Shade is apparently one of Bain's old associates who saved the returning heisters from an assassination attempt on the gang. Locke's whereabouts are unknown, possibly a victim until more details are given later on.
coop wasn't even working in the beta lmao.
Coop wasn't working if you had pre-made groups of two, not the games fault you can't get enough homies to fill a lobby
paypig defense force has arrived
You're telling me you didn't pre-order your copy of gold edition? What are you waiting for? Ohhhhhh you must be trying to find a collectors edition copy in your area.
they are shills and they will be replaced by chatbots by the end of the year.
have a heart for them since their israelite masters don't
I get paid in the tears of shazamtrannies
You're right about israelites being based though
post your hook nose
Unfortunately I was not fortunate enough to be blessed with the chosen genes, but at least I have this l o v e l y circumcision so I'm in a pack with their god.
I swear to god they are the fricking worst. Tryhard gays who are in a constant state of cope about Payday 3 on their gay subreddit and any attempt to shit on this Swedish shovel-ware results in pure nerd rage, they're even making memes to cope about the obvious shortcomings this piece of shit has coming lol
no you don't understand, the big bad evil Bo is gone so any decisions they made from that point onward are automatically cool and good
>the big bad evil Bo
who?
Former CEO of Overkill/Starbreeze, brother of Ulf Andersson. His incompetence almost bankrupted the company. Might've been involved in insider trading as well (or it might've been other people, don't quite remember). Is the guy who said "Your opinion, my choice" when it came to PD2's flashbangs (when they used to just spawn at your feet and immediately go off)
It wasn't working in my group of 3 either, the game is so broken and not ready for release
I played solo the entire time and had no problems, it'll get fixed at release
Works in my machine
Sure, what is it?
Payday 3
MInecraft 2
darktide
I hear people constantly compare that game to payday 3 (in that both are bad), what's the problem with it?
Very little nowadays. Darktide is incredibly fun even right now, and they're fully reworking the class system so that each class has 3 different subclasses with skill trees that you can mix & match, so we're going from 4 classes to 12, but it's actually way more than that.
It was ok. The levelling system is weird or just broken and the starter gun is terrible, but other than that it was alright.
The rifle was bad? I feel like it was on the top half of beta weapon meta.
It felt like a peashooter compared to the shotgun honestly. You pointed the shotgun at somebody and they died, the rifle needed multiple sequential headshots to kill anything, and good fricking luck with bodyshots. That was just on Normal/Hard too it's probably even worse on higher difficulties.
Weird, I thought the shotgun felt really weak. Granted I only used it in the closed beta which I only got into on xbox so the controller might have influenced my opinion. I think the shotgun skills are gonna be really good in the full release
Difficulty actually doesn't affect enemy health
The chink rifle was pretty great
Unless Darktide stops being one of the worst cases of optimization ever the game is still going to be unplayable.
I don't know how I didn't know that was a first person game
Update your drivers. Performance was terrible for me on launch but new Nvidia drivers doubled my FPS. I run super low-res settings because I play a lot of Hi-Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet which can get crazy with the amount of shit on screen at once and I need the FPS, and the game runs like a dream. The only time it ever gets really bad is if I'm on a team with like 3 dudes with flamers or psykers with the flamer staff idk the name of it.
Unless they make darktide's crafting system not entirely abhorrent, I'm going to continue to not play the game
You don't understand, if the grind isn't Korean MMO tier for a single perfect gun then you won't have any reason at all ever to play the game and buy cosmetics!
They could have easily copied Deep Rock Galactic in terms of weapon and cosmetic progression, and people would have sticked. Nobody likes this outlandish and aggressive rng grind. Not even the autists sticked around.
I've just booted up the game again and they barely added any armour or armour colours that are worth anyone's time. The colour palette is also bland, uninspired and forgettable. Who's going to grind his soul away over some disgustingly looking brown, white or black armour? I'd say they are just creatively bankrupt and won't make a comeback regardless of how many more updates are to follow. What a disaster.
The crafting is fine. It's really easy to get a usable or good gun but it's ridiculously hard to get absolutely perfect gear. You also don't really need it. Darktide is an easier game than VT2 unless you're playing Auric missions which stacks tons of modifiers. If they added Red-tier items like how VT2 had them it would break the game because now every weapon players have is getting a 20% stat boost when it's already a little on the easy side.
>The crafting is fine.
Yeah no it's fricking awful. It's easily the worst system of any of the co-op games I've played.
It's genuinely better than something like Deep Rock. The overclock system in that game is fricking aids because a lot of them are basically completely new, distinct guns from the base variant and there's literally no way to get them except by pure RNG. Darktide doesn't work like this, blessings will change the power of a weapon but won't make it completely different.
>It's genuinely better than something like Deep Rock.
Yeah, no. The grind for overclocks might be shit, but once you have them you can do whatever the frick you want with them. darktide you have to constantly deal with slot machines to even have a chance to get what you want. And blessings might not be quite as "game changing" as overclocks, but they can still significantly impact the effectiveness of a weapon
No bro just use a combat axe without brutal momentum or a heavy sword without headttaker, they're just as good!
Combat axes in Darktide are moronic why is a basic axe the best melee weapon in a Warhammer 40000 game. Hope they rebalance it for the big update it's so stupid.
Combat axes are somehow good? How so? What happened to the power sword?
There's a blessing for combat axes called Brutal Momentum that gives them infinite cleave if you kill 1 dude with a weak spot hit. You know, the 200+ damage light attack, fast-attacking weapon with infinite cleave. They're insane. They're also in no way bad against Elites so most people just run a bruh momentum combat axe as their main melee weapon.
Power swords are still great if you have Power Cycler 4, it's got less charged attacks now but it wipes hordes just like it did on launch just less efficiently. Still shit against Elites though and I never liked them because of that. The Devil's Claw Mark 4 is my favorite weapon probably.
Sure you don't *need* to be able to do what you want with your weapons, but it sure is a hell of a lot more fun and engaging when you can put whatever you want on your stuff when you want to experiment or try out new builds, rather than dealing with obnoxious levels of RNG.
Until they make the currency account wide I'm not interested.
>weekly with the biggest payout is play 20 games
>you can't use the rewards on other characters
>this means you have to do it with each class so thats 80 games a week
yeah frick off
They just figured out that yeah that was cancerous and now currency is shared with all your characters with one of the latest patches to the game.
>grinding dumb bullshit
>DLC shitshow because all their other games failed
Nah
And dlc is bad because?
because the game ISN'T EVEN FRICKING OUT YET
So they announced what is essentially the exact same dlc model from 2 that we all knew it would have, so what? It's not like it's day one dlc or something.
>so what? It's not like it's day one dlc or something.
>when the game comes out the dlc will be officially day one
Please fricking read your post before replying
You're a complete moron, a season pass is not day one dlc, it's a pre-order for dlc that isn't out yet. If you can't play the dlc content on day one then it by definition isn't a day one dlc.
BY definition if there is dlc for the future and the game isn't out it IS day 1.
So if you pre-order that game that means I can play it right now? Because spending money means I have have instant access? I bet you're the guy who keeps posting the "graphics and art style are the same" bait threads.
free community content is superior
Community created or the shit 2 gave you for joining the steam community? If the answer is the former then you're wrong.
>buy our game 10x goyim
>Buy our game 10x over the course of 10 years
Sounds fair to me
God I wish fatshark had the capacity to release content on a reasonable basis like overkill. Maybe then their games would be less dead and I wouldn'tve had to wait almost 2 fricking years for Necromancer, although that's probably mostly due to darktide being shit.
I've loaded up the game yesterday after a long break and it's a complete joke. The game is so fricking barren and unfun in some regard. Wasted potential, and yet people shell out good money for their mtx costumes.
because clearly most of the dlc is already fully developed or almost ready and they just charge you extra for it
>goypass d1 release
it will be unplayable lmao, even beta had server issues
The purpose of the beta was to test for server issues
>less content than PD2
eggsplain why I should switch?
1. they play quite differently, 3 plays more like the first game than 2
2. no sequel should ever exist by this logic
>inb4 good
i didn't play 1. is is less cop-massacre simulator? i loved pd2 but a lot of it was just murdering waves of guys
nta but yeah they lowered the enemy count, also health is the same across all difficulties the only things that change are damage, accuracy and apparently the ai. Going loud is still a slaughter but at least in the beta ammo was an issue. You had to actually rush the objective and not just shit there shooting shit forever.
You’ve probably played the first games level in 2 but it plays better in open because it was designed for it. The heist is a great showcase of overkills supernatural ability to make shooter combat feel great. Absolutely pick it up on sale, it’s a bit more objective based
>Always online
>Denuvo
No
>same game again 3
can someone explain what the fricking appeal of this game is? what can you do in this game? rob banks with janky as frick """"stealth"""" and kill cops just like the last two games?
1 and 2 play a lot different from one another (1 is a lot harder), 2 has plenty of great stealth heists, but 3 is fully revamping stealth to allow soft failure states, viable loud/stealth hybrid builds, and a myriad of small stealth features like luring and door closing.
If you don't get the appeal of a heist then there's really no helping you.
>viable loud/stealth hybrid builds
This will never. EVER. Be a thing. You may try to force it now while the game is new but skills will always be either loud or stealth, and eventually they'll add 8 more difficulties where stealth skills will get you killed in a microsecond if a cop looks in your general direction.
Perhaps, but for now it is a thing. Whether or not people choose to use these builds or just spam restart like pussies is a separate matter. I think these hybrid builds will in part be due to the lower level of skills, I've been theory crafting with the skill website and I struggle to use up a handful of skill points.
The developers have utterly failed to realize what exactly made Payday 2 a gigantic success, which was the base game constantly being on sale for two dollars plus the ability for it to run on potatoes. The playerbase existing in the millions to buy the DLC was only there because of these.
Payday 3 lacks both of those qualities on release, and will likely lack the latter for the entirety of its lifetime.
It definitely has higher specs than it has any right to have, but a new game is obviously not going to sell for 2 dollars.
>playing Payday in the modern era
If you didn't play pre-safes then you never really played Payday during the golden era, you've only played the decline.
That's one of the major draws and why I bought gold edition, to get one last hit of that sweet early game magic.
The login button wouldn't even work for me. shit ass beta
let's fricking go!
PRE ORDER CHECK
MEMORY FREE ON SSD CHECK
MASK UP BOYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=TZ8XA3od24g
The amount of times I've gotten this stuck in my head
why does it look so ugly?
game has always been janky af, im just looking forward to a new updated payday experience
2 had a blue thing going on, so now they're trying to get a green thing going.
It's vile, it looks like an Xbox 360 game
hasn't been a good coop game since Halo. And I doubt online-only is ever going to permit them again.
I'm putting together a team. Are you in?
anons who played the beta, thoughts?
Not enough cops to shoot
I have no idea why everyone's b***hing about enemies having too much health
i know there are like "full time" PD players but i don't really get the appeal. it's kinda dull. if you want horde/wave shootan on quite dynamic maps, you have L4D, if you have gun autism PD definitely doesn't provide that, the gunplay is very shallow. you're left with the whole heist fantasy, but these games hardly even seem to play into that, they are more like dumb horde shooters with a VERY light heist theme in the very background.
its not like you are doing lots of planning routes and stuff on a whiteboard like a reverse rainbow six. there's not much to do in casing mode but walk around, mark some thing, and just try to get some extra points in stealth before starting the horde shootan mode.
but i'll buy it because it's cheap and i'm sure there's ~50 hours just having fun cracking some vaults and shooting cops.
if you tap fire you kill in one hit, or after popping off their helmet. but enemies are quite spongy if you just spray. so if people are complaining its literally a skill issue.
The heaviness of the theme varies by heist, obviously all the pd1 maps are very centered on the theme, 2 meanwhile has levels that aren't about a heist at all but still crime related.
>skill issue
Oh you mean there are people out there that don't hipfire headshot every enemy? In Payday? How embarrassing.
If you want whiteboards, the second most recent heist in 2 (hostile takeover) has about 4-5 main objectives that can all be done any order simultaneously
>if you want horde/wave shootan on quite dynamic maps, you have L4D
L4D sucks
It about moving through areas with no other objectives aside from defending things until they move the thing out of the way to move through the area. It's a great game, but aside from there being a lot of enemies it doesn't really resemble payday at all
I wouldn't say that, but they're obviously pretty different. L4D is mostly about moving from A>B on more or more maps and occasionally dealing with a horde of mostly melee enemies, whereas Payday is more about running around 1-3 maps completing a variety of objectives while dealing with a pretty constant horde of ranged enemies. Then there's the RPG elements, builds, etc.
lol have they already replaced shills with chatbots. lol. left 4 dead was a great game that still holds up a decade later.
meanwhile even the shills aren't talking about gayablo which was months ago
AI post
>durrr da chatbot is intell-a-gent
lol. only compared to sois that can only speak in buzzwords
How many teeth are you missing and what hour do you get up for work
Kek when Payday 2 first released the average moron kept complaining about the tans having body armor
Weird, I remember it being so comically easy pre deathwish
>pros
Stealth is much better
Armor isn't tied to a suit, just the amount of chunks
No more concealment
All of the previous means you don't have to reset every time you fail stealth
Shooting feels way better
AI is way smarter, cop assaults feel much more like a threat instead of brainless horde shooting
Considering the only heist in the beta was the starting heist it seems that they will be more complex overall instead of just ECM>Get everyone down>wait for drill
YOU CAN CLOSE DOORS
>neutral
Overkill weapons
weapon unlocks based on level, attachments are unlocked based on weapon level (like some call of duties)
Less pagers in higher difficulties (overkill had 2)
Utility equipment seems kind of useless
Very little whacky skills like bulletstorm
RNG doesn't reset on restart
>cons
Skill tree is kind of boring, entirely built with edge/grit/rush in mind
Civilian detection isn't shown properly (bug?)
Can't see ally pinged guards through walls for some reason
i went mastermind/medic in 2 and i love stealth so seems legit. thanks anon
so cops dont go down in one hit anymore? lmao
Yeah stealth is much more dynamic, you can do a lot more on casing mode, guards don't get alerted as long as you're in a public zone and they escort you out when you're on a private zone
They never did
>Considering the only heist in the beta was the starting heist it seems that they will be more complex overall instead of just ECM>Get everyone down>wait for drill
I don't want to doom post but I don't exactly see how that is a good indicator, I'd argue on the contrary. Maybe if it's good I'll finally give it a try because I never played the franchise.
If you played the 2 you'd know that ecm rushing gets old real fast and in the early days they had to rebalance multiple heists because it completely trivialized stealth and encouraged bad design
In PD2 ECM jammers block cameras, alarms and pagers for 45 seconds
you get 2 of them
A 4 man coordinated team can have 3 minutes of ECMS (even more with pocket ECMS)
that means that 75% of the classic heists can just be bruteforced in "stealth"
in 3 this is no longer the case (atleast in the beta heist), even if you don't like stealth loud is just about the same, mechanic-wise
Revolver not one shotting basic cops in the head felt terrible.
played the open network beta with only one heist
i liked the gunplay and reduced scale, but ttk felt weird
maybe its a progression thing, like early weapons arent supposed to be good, but even on normal i couldnt oneshot any of the armored cops with a revolver headshot
More Payday that feels good to play. If you liked P2, go get the basic edition for $32 on GMG and wait to grab what DLC you actually care about later down the line or for sales to snatch Silver/Gold upgrades at bigger discounts. Paying double the price of the game to play three days earlier is a FOMO moron tax, especially after their servers exploded multiple times during the last beta
Eight heists with only four more planned in the next year of battle passes seems content light coming from a decade old P2. but it's a decent start.
Call me a fomo moron cause I'm counting the seconds until I can play my gold edition
>battle passes
There are no battlepasses
>4 heists a year
That's been the standard for the last 3 years
so what do we think of EDGE, GRIT and RUSH? i cant tell if its dumb or not being a slave to three buffs that appear on your screen
I feel like it’ll be better than we think but worse than they thought, we’ll find out when we have full skill points. It’s a very interesting conscript despite the buffs themselves being unimpressive
I'd rather just keep the buffs active instead of trying to cycle through them to maximize benefits.
Even if you plan out a system of gaining and consuming buffs, how are you going to keep track of how you've allocated your 21 points when they're all spread out in every tree?
>I need to stand still and aim down sights for at least 1.5 seconds to get x buff
>also need to switch to my secondary and only hipfire and reload when not empty to get y buff
>but if I slide I'll lose it and get z buff instead, so I need to grab a guy and shove him to get it back
>also if I heal I lose all my buffs and they get turned into extra health
It's made easier to remember by virtue of the skills being grouped together into specific playstyles
Just focus on one of those greentexts with some other easy stack skills to supplement
Upgraded my pc for this
Im fricking hyped for this game
After about 200 hours if 2 I noticed I didn't like it as much as the first on
I need to buy the $60 one to play 3 days early? damn
is this the new shill target? have they stopped with gayablo and perverts gate?
vermintide 2 is better anyway.
btw, i hate orcs and hook noses, if that matters
>is this the new shill target
Only looks that way because I'm here, it's a shazam target in reality. Non-stop complaining from people who don't like the series because a bad thing happened 8 years ago and so they latch on to every small thing they can find to get irrationally angry about.
There's also no orcs or hook noses in payday 3, so enjoy
I didn't play during the lootbox thing but it always seemed overblown to me, its a completely cosmetic thing that copied the system that valve has done for years
It wasn't completely cosmetic when it initially released, skins could have a variety of stat bonuses on them that you couldn't get otherwise. That only lasted about 8 months though, when Starbreeze I think bought the publishing rights for Payday from 505, and made the stat bonuses a separate thing you could get for free and add to any weapon, as well as making all future safes free to obtain and open (and eventually all safes).
(And also eventually getting rid of safes entirely and just making it so you earn skins)
That explains it, never knew they actually has stats attached to them, seems like a really stupid decision
Yeah that was the actually shit part. They also said I think around the game's release that they would never add microtransactions to the game, so that didn't really help either.
If you've been in some of the other threads or browsed the steam forum and seen people complain you'd think the lootboxes were added yesterday and that Bo Anderson killed their parents.
>There's also no orcs or hook noses in payday 3, so enjoy
could be based. star-orc-field is funny in a tragic way
>destroyed 2 over time with stupid game breaking updates, also bloating the file size to the point where i cant even download it anymore
>3 has a day 1 season pass and in game currency, the beta was buggy as shit and ran terrible
>published by deep silver
and despite all of that I'm still looking forward to this garbage fire
The premium currency at least seems like you can buy it with in game money. It's just a grind though. The season pass shit kills me.
I hope they don't go nuts on the DLC. Payday 2 was absurd but it also came from a different time, SURELY there's a better way they can roll out both paid/free content that isn't an in game shop or battle pass
I've lost that hope long ago.
You should see how many people on steam think a season pass is a battlepass.
>SURELY there's a better way they can roll out both paid/free content
Yes, FOMO seasons with paid battlepasses and missable events, the same way every other GAAS handles it
by deep silver
>Sell out to 505 games
>Bleed money to get out from under their greed
>Do it again
The state of Starbreeze
it really doesn't matter, gaymers eat this shit up, OVK could charge you a monthly subscription for the game and they would still say it's an amazing game
>was thinking last week how I'm surprised payday 2 is still alive and that they haven't made 3 yet
>now this
I'm god
STEAL FROM THE RICH GIVE TO MYSELF
STEAL FROM THE RICH GIVE TO MYSELF
>99 weapons
>hundreds of masks
Seems kinda quint by the current standard.
more like the COPE game of the decade, amirite?
HAH, good one buddy!
im very ready for any new good coop pve games
i cant stand pvp anymore
What's the point of this game when Payday 2 exists?
A fresh start, accessibility, trying new things, innovating here and there, money.
>innovating here and there
It's the same game as 10 years ago though.
>.t didn't play the beta and is talking about his ass
>.t did play the beta and is objectively right
>hurr durr both games are about shooting cops
So you're a brainlet who can't comprehend the nuances of the gameplay of 2 and 3
>Both games look the same and play the same
So you're a gigachad who can understand they released the same fricking game again after 10 years
Deep silver forced them to integrate epic servers ruining connectivity
People got sick of 2 because it just turned into DLCslop, this gives them a fresh start to bring back old players before they start the same cycle as 2
you mean deep rock galactic
Of the two games that involve acquiring gold, payday will be the superior option
I hope they allow mods
I bought this game so i can shoot cops, frick cops
>season pass
>battle pass
>microtransactions out the ass
>3 different editions
>swedes
ill pass on this one bruv.
You forgot to mention that it looks like a PS3 game.
>Battlepass
moron
Nothing stops them from adding it post launch after the refund grace is over, tf2 safes if you need a reminder.
So you stated it as a negative about the game when it is neither in the game nor has there been any information to suggest it will be there
The mass of the grace period will pass in a week, week two battle pass surprise
morons never learn
Ya sure, I bet it'll have lootboxes too
>source: my ass
So we are at a point where we invent problems to get enraged about.
Ganker has never not been at that point.
tf2 added crates like 3 years later you fricking moron
well, maybe they made a mistake in their marketing if a lot of people have the impression the game includes one???
That's just cope for being a presumptuous moron. They apparently should have known that giving absolutely no indication that something would be in the game would somehow lead complete cretins to think it's definitely in the game
>Battlepass
Genius.
We've literally not seen a single thing about the mtx
>Battlepass
Midwit
There is a battle pass? Fricking hell nice.
>Always online
This game has a built in expiration date, and what's worse they went back and nuked Payday 2 to make sure you can't just keep playing that instead. Frick these loser piece of shit devs.
I will eat my fricking hat if they shut the servers down without creating a p2p option
Also payday 2 is perfectly fine, I was playing it yesterday, schizo
I put 100s of hours into payday 2, believe me when I say I’m not making that mistake twice.
Your loss pal
>this will be an official outfit
I don't understand modern fashion.
The devs themselves in one of their diaries said they wanted the art gallery to feel extremely pretentious and up their own asses about it. So that outfit being in the game might also reflect that opinion.
No, it's definitely just a random collab, I'm down for it though
>stealing from pretentious art critics means we share the same taste in art as said critics
???
You picked the flattering picture, years of cosmetics being in games (including payday 2) has given me an appreciation for gaudy fashion.
less flattering*
If the overkill weapons are cool, I might get the game on sale. the m32 grenade launcher in the beta was decent.
>the m32 grenade launcher in the beta was decent
It really wasn't. For an "overkill" weapon it just made cops stumble a bit with every shot that didn't hit them directly. If you really only have 12 shots with the damn thing then it really needs to feel like a massive killer weapon, which it definitely didn't.
Everyone they invited to the studio says the sniper ovk weapon is a lot better, the piglet has too high a radius
71/84 Heists done for the DSOD mask... too bad if I wanted to do all the achievements I'd have to do some really annoying ones like Infamy 100
Looks like shit, runs like shit, cops walk like they have shit running down their pant legs, pd2 has been shit for close to 10 years. No, the game is shit and op is chowing down yet again.
I’m chowing down because payday 2 is a great game
Im honestly surprised how good it looks and plays despite it being on uncringe engine.
If performance gets fixed a little it will the best payday game
If they do more fricking promo content I'm going to be so mad. Yeah here's your heist game with LORE except the third wall is broken every job because fricking john wick, bodhi from the point break remake, two random fricking youtubers, and jimmy from hardcore henry are canon heisters. Might as well put fricking payday doritos in your ad - I mean promo tie in
Jacket is baseded, though, as is/was Scarface
Scarface's lines are legitimately 10/10s.
tie in's are guaranteed in the long run. With how popular it is in fortnite and cod there's no way overkill will pass it up. I just hope they don't do eceleb shit again. If it makes you feel any better they announced the first 4 post launch heists and they're all payday related
why they blocked PD3 in steam for my country lol
anyways, here's the gem from unbreakable shield threads
What the hell. Where are you from that your country blocked heisting banks in payday, Israel?
self-explanatory
funny thing is i have it in wishlist, they just decided to block it later for some reason
Oh frick, how annoying. Sorry to hear bro. Hope you can get your hands on it through other means. rwtGOY what a captcha
Have you considered it's because of the sanctions against Russia
Bros, was it just me or was the game completely devoid of enemy chatter? The meme reminded me how sovl pd2 was. Please tell me they will fix on release.
Reminder that the beta was a 5 month old build. The final release will be kino of the highest magnitude.
Me and some friends got payday 2 and it felt like such a letdown. Its just L4D but with police instead of zombies and no decent AI control of the enemies
its always fun seeing zoomers pick up decade old actually good games and whining about them cuz theyre old
i hope locke and bain never come back. theyre annoying and overstayed their welcome
Well Bain is definitely not coming back. Although it would be quite hilarious to have the US president lead you while you're robbing a bank.
becoming glowies and doing shit abroad could be fun
We didn't play it recently, it was about 8 years ago when I lived in house share and we all played it on LAN.
>erase everything about pd2
>make version 1.5 payday in unreal engine
>OMFG BEST GAME EVER GUYZ
lamoing @ ur life kid.
>everything
who asked for female heisters?
Needed ESG money. Please understand. Small crime family.
yo being a sexist bigot isnt cool and not what this gaming community is about
Trans gamers absolutely NEED to play as ugly women with annoying voice lines
me
Will there be epic spyware?
You bet, and it will cause the same problems that were when PD2 was integrated into Epic
I'm just not interested.
But if you make a mode where the cops are jannies from Arthur...
>kicked and blocked
Will 3 even have hostkick? I haven't seen the kick feature in action but they did away with host-initiated restarting and replaced that with a vote.
Is this on gamepass? Not buying a Payday product I saw what they did with 2 holy ufck
is the beta over? how was it
So what happened to Locke? Why is some random girl directing the heists now?
Shade is apparently one of Bain's old associates who saved the returning heisters from an assassination attempt on the gang. Locke's whereabouts are unknown, possibly a victim until more details are given later on.
Uh he died and now America, the nation founded on his ideas, is falling apart. He got BTFO'd
Is Payday 3 the game that will revive /pdg/??
It looks like it should be f2p with the amount of incoming dlc and zero visual upgrades