People criticize the show for this scene but they or don't know or forgot this is a thing in all the games.
People criticize the show for this scene but they or don't know or forgot this is a thing in all the games.
People criticize the show for this scene but they or don't know or forgot this is a thing in all the games.
pajeet shill thread
It's OK to be a smelly shitskin; let's not be racist here
Nah the pajeets shill fallout 3
What does this even mean, what a moronic fricking thread
if you didn't watch the show don't comment moron it's that simple
>go onto videogames board
>YOU NEED TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF SOME NETFLIXSLOP IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS GAMES
or maybe you can go discuss games instead of making thread about some TV garbage, moronic zoomers
>or maybe you can go discuss games
why are you in a thread about a TV show then?
BECAUSE THIS IS THE VIDEOGAMES BOARD RAJESH.
>[Terrifying Presence] BECAUSE THIS IS THE VIDEOGAMES BOARD RAJESH.
Video games?
I watched the show and you're a fricking moron.
>I watched the show
Oh no, so you're also a moron?
Kys.
shrimple?
>A perk justifies shit writing
Rajeesh i..
The guy literally uses vats with 95% hitchance
did indians write the show and new vegas or what are you guys talking about?
is that line supposed to be intimidating or scary? that is literally something the autistic kid would say to someone who is bullying him before he gets his ass kicked ten ways til sunday. i think the correct response from the paladin would be to burst out laughing.
seriously, look. that is some peak gaia-tier shit right there. and people say FNV is better-written than fallout 4?
>is that line
the scene you moron
fricking read
>reading comprehension
i don't give a shit about the scene jackass, i'm just pointing out how poorly written the in-game line is. believe me, whatever insipid point you are trying to make about the show does not matter to me or anyone else, i merely took the chance to make a comment about a cringey line since it is part of your truly god-awful post. have a nice day
SHUT THE FRICK UP YOU MONKEY Black person, LEARN TO READ YOU BONOBO FRICK
It's aged kinda poorly, lots of cringe dialogue people would call "reddit" now.
Believe me, I winced at that line back in 2010 too. It hasn't aged poorly, it was never there to begin with.
>intimidating line doesn't hold any threat when read flat with zero intonation
Well gee moron
The implication of a perk called "Terrifying Presence" should be obvious to you
Threats don't work by themselves. The scariest line eber written isn't scary if it's being delivered by a stuttering baby pissing itself
I genuinely have no fricking idea how anyone enjoys Terrifying Pressence. Every single line is autistic child tier. It's like they brought a bethesda dev solely to write for that perk. It's some of the most atrocious writing in the game and I've no idea how or why it came to be like this. The rest of NV isn't awful like that, which is the weirdest part.
I got a mod that adds to it. If you dismember someone in combat, their pals have a chance of fleeing
>ghoul who very obviously was alive pre-war points out flaws in your equipment, who is obviously going to exploit them very soon
hes terrifying but not in the traditional way you think, if i was the brotherhood in that scene id either run or jump out of the power armor
If I were any of the people in that room, I'd shoot that rotting zombie the instant I saw him rather than wait 20 seconds for him to go on his little spiel about how weak I am and turn off the lights. I would have been in kill anything that isn't in power armor mode after murdering all those NCR gays. I would be ripping the squires limb from limb to satiate my bloodlust. That putrified freak wouldn't have lasted a second.
he can tank bullets moron
5.56 will shatter your shins just as good as anything else. You don't need to kill him to incapacitate him.
they literally sit there and watch him load a gun while monologuing the entire time
then he shoots and kills them first, despite the armed men aiming their guns at him
New Vegastards literally hold up lines like that as the pinnacle of video game writing. No, I'm not joking.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
Please be patient this game was written by a liberal moron
>write Joshua Graham as a quintessential antagonist according to his liberal world view
>he becomes a fan favorite
What?
He's meant to be an antagonist?
It's crazy how willing Sawyer was to make characters that he disagreed with completely and handle it maturely, but nowadays I'd be surprised if he could handle that at all.
I feel like that's what distinguishes an actual, competent author from the fricking hacks that populate modern fiction; being able to detach yourself from your work in certain, important ways that let you write actually good fiction. Not everything has to be a political vehicle.
>Not everything has to be a political vehicle.
Or a lecture. Sawyer (and Gonzalez and Avellone, kinda) understand that you're written a fictional story, with fictional people in a fictional world. It's not a commentary on current events or current people, it's a story, a tale. Obviously it's gonna be full of elements that reflect reality, but it's focused on telling the story and not making commentary or reaching the consumer a lesson
>but nowadays I'd be surprised if he could handle that at all.
I mean people like Pentiment, maybe he can
I'll always respect that homosexual for having genuinely talent and being able to do that. Sawyer maybe be a huge sõy but he's not a hack, so he presents characters with ideas and morals he'd find repulsive irl with a neutral background and portrays them with a conviction that would be appropriate
It's more than I can say for Stephen King
How the frick is Graham an antagonist?
Same thing happened to rorschach
The deal with terrifying presence is that it requires a 70 speech skill, which is pretty fricking high.
If you take one moment to actually role play (which... you're playing an RPG? You should be doing that by default.) someone with "70 speech" would easily be able to manipulate their aura to make it work.
you don't get it, we're in the new age now where everyones a youtube video game critic that has to nitpick everything and are not allowed to have any fun with games that aren't soulslike boss speedrun simulators.
>Younggay thinks that people didn't incessantly nitpick games to death before YouTube e-celebs were a thing
Do you even know where you're posting right now?
Also, having a 70 speech character talk like a moron is immersion breaking if you want to actually role play so uh yeah it's moronic. It's like someone successfully rolling for a high intimidation check and saying "hahaha poo poo pee pee penis vegana "
>It's like someone successfully rolling for a high intimidation check and saying "hahaha poo poo pee pee penis vegana "
I used to play D&D with a guy that acted like this and he thought he was the funniest person alive
It is funny, but it's specifically funny because it's immersion breaking. Terrifying Presence is a joke trait
>lolsorandum humor
Dreadful as it was, I'd take it over what we have today, which is unfunny quipping or cynicism poisoned post-irony remarks
>. and people say FNV is better-written than fallout 4?
It is but that's more of a show of how fricking dogshit the bethesda writing is rather than a praise of obsidians
That's true. What would you say is an example of an actually intimidating line, though?
Words alone are insufficient to intimidate if you ask me. A degree of demonstrable power difference is required for something to be threatening. You can threaten a mouse but a mouse could only threaten you if it also had air superiority
>A degree of demonstrable power difference is required for something to be threatening
hmmm like a mmm maybe idk? A terrifying presence or something? Just a thought.
I don't think it's even possible to write a decent intimidation line in this case, mostly because you're trying to intimidate a guy who's wearing Power Armor and is also backed up by an army of Power Armor wearing fanatics quite aptly called a brotherhood. The hell does that guy have to fear?
>The hell does that guy have to fear?
The shotgun surgeon and his -10 DT
People finding out he only has 1 testicle and a small pp.
piercing strike and super slam
For me it's subtle threats that are much scarier, like that one reporter harassing an ex-CIA woman and she asked him how his two dogs were doing by name and he freaked out going "H-How do you know that?"
>she asked him how his two dogs were doing
What is it with three letter agencies and hating dogs?
that was wild
i think what's key is an admission of power that is tangibly conferred by what you say (reputation or unexpected knowledge)
something that can be conceived as proven power only when spoken
a lot of the threatening presence lines don't really have that
link or ur a homosexual
https://twitter.com/philipletsou/status/1781377334563467754
>someone asserts dominance over you
>T-TRULY UNHINGED BEHAVIOR >:~~*
Cattle should know their place
how does she know though?
was the journo like harassing her for a while and she finally said frick it and had someone look into him or do they just keep tabs on randoms
She's a white woman, she just knows and so do you...
people post everything online, when you hear a boomer getting "Hacked" most of the time they gave out that information willingly
She's slept with those dogs before, they come when she calls them
>try to talk to a woman
>she instantly asks about my dogs
Why are white women like that?
There isn't, terrifying presence being some cheesy one liner has always made it a joke trait. Using fear to make someone surrender or panic is a lot more complicated than just saying something along the lines of
>grrrr I'm mean >:(
It's usually something along the lines of what the Mongols or Caribbean pirates did where they build up a reputation for brutality and use that reputation to scare people into submission
Terrifying presence would make more sense if it was unlocked by having a certain reputation with that faction, such that you would be scary because you actually did fricked up shit in the past.
Terrifying Presence being reputation based would make the most sense
How that even work?
>Oh no! It's the feared hero of Goodsprings, some irrelevant little town south of Primm
That works both ways
>Oh damn, this guy is one of them powder gangers, I better not mess with him
Same way it does irl, the more brutal you behave the more of a reputation you gain and the more you can exploit fear among the people who know you. Personally I think it would also be cool if Terrifying Presence allowed you to do other fear based psyops, like gaining dialogue options that exploited people's hysteria or specific neurosis to manipulate them. I've always felt like it was a really lacking perk of you wanted to do an evil playthrough because you just get mean one liners and a slight edge in initiative
I'LL FRICK YOU 'TIL YOU LOVE ME homosexual
That shit was scary
Specially cause at the time Mike Tyson was seen as an unhinged sociopath with no qualms or cognizant of consequences
?t=52
>*unzip pants*
>*shart loudly*
GOOD MORNING SARS!!!
?t=18
On an unrelated note how the frick did john carpenter get away with making a whole movie about a schizo who goes around committing mass-shootings and killing israelites?
"I spanked you as a baby and I'll spank you now, b***h!"
Usually small but effective lines work better as intimidation.
Big and elaborate responses that can be found in FO2 and in NV for example, are mostly written by people who havent seen how IRL intimidation works, and only know intimidation by fantasy books which have also elaborate threats.
Of course, since vidya writers are inferior to actual novel writers, these threat responses sound like a shitpost that only a highly autistic sperg would say irl.
I think when it comes to a RPG with good threatening lines, I believe Witcher has good ones. I never cringed with the dialogue there, but on the other hand, every fallout game besides FO1 has cringe worthy lines
>havent seen how IRL intimidation works
IRL intimidation doesnt exist. At least not as something related to social skills.
It doesn't for comfortable, well off people in first world areas. As a mexican there are people who when they talk to you and tell you something you had better take them very fricking seriously
>As a mexican there are people who when they talk to you and tell you something you had better take them very fricking seriously
I worked in public security fighting cartels for years here in South America. I aint got to hear shit about how you know better from some sheltered homosexual from Mexico City or whatever.
Then you should know and I shouldn't need to explain it to you
cool roleplay, can I be a space marine?
You know what I meant. Most writers are too much of shut ins(or sheltered in their own personal bubble, like californians) to fully grasp social mechanics such as intimidation and properly depict them on their work.
Lots of fantasy novels contain full pages filled with an elaborate threat. Given the plot circumstances, and also the fact that literature "doesnt show but only tell" as a medium, these elaborate threats can work.
On the other hand, modern videogames contain visuals and interactions like irl, so trying to apply literature logic doesnt always work, and it backfires when its writers are not fully aware the nature of videogames as a medium.
True. You will also not catch Geralt say something like
>Back off you mongrel bandit, or I will use my well oiled stell sword to carve your skin, then chop off your limbs, then swirl with a pirouette to instantly decapitate your friend and then piss and shit all over your dead bodies right after I have looted them.
to threaten his enemies. Geralt is usually brief with his threats, and always try to imply how cruel he can be when he is angry. And it works. Some of Geralt's enemies use that kind of intimidation, because it makes them look like buffoons.
However, that kind of cringeworthy response I have given as an example, can always be found in every fallout game as an option.
Mostly just chiming in:
Longer lines are also easier to accept in fantasy since guns usually don't exist. Spells, drawing a bow, and rushing into melee are usually all easily telegraphed, so the guy with the superior tactical position and a big ego obliviating for a second when he's not obviously under threat doesn't stretch believability as hard. But guns are point and click. If someone is already aiming at you, all it takes is twitching their trigger finger and suddenly you're probably dead or dying. Maybe they miss, but if characters are exchanging banter they're not far enough apart for the shots to be difficult.
What writers who understand gunfights get right (and this was something RDR2 got right even) is that longer dialogues and standoffs only happen when there's not an obvious winner in the balance of power. If someone is intent on killing you and they get the drop on you, it's joever and there will be no snarky exchange. If you break a standoff by firing, you goddamn better secure the overwhelming advantage with that shot or the third guy is just going to shoot you next.
The 'stunned into inaction' thing also requires specific kinds of characters to work. The scene between the BoS and Goggins doesn't work because people get got in PA all the time; Knights are professional soldiers and they take regular combat losses. Shooting one down is a surprise but you know what his buddy's first instinct is going to be? Spraying you down with automatic fire because that's the solution to any over-ambitious moron in a duster coat, and Goggins is within 10yd so he's impossible to miss.
The BoS get shot at literally all the time. Their MO is to wade up to shitters and blow them away with superior weight of firepower. If there was a severe defect in the front-facing armor on the T-45d or T-60 it would show up right away in their loss record.
I agree. Usually long and threatening monologues work when stakes are high but no one has the clear advantage. When a fight is one sided, elaborate threatening makes the guy who says it to look stupid.
the intimidation lines in The Witcher work because Geralt uses the rumours and legends around Witchers being half-monster abominations to his advantage. Either that or he threatens to maim you which also works.
>When your mother is finished mourning your father, maybe I'll keep her in black - on your behalf.
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>Come 'ed den if ye think yer 'ard enuff
>wot lad wot lad
>'ave iht
>waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy
>You wan sum?
Have there been any serious replies to this post with intimidating lines besides the Carpenter one? Terrifying Presence won
FRICK PALLY GON' DO?
The one you say to Vulpes is good. Basically anything unhinged would be good
"Tonight. You."
>”bye”
The difference between this and a 7 year old is that you just got the frick out of a Brotherhood of Stealing bunker where you also already got in, having a murder count on the triple digits at minimum and giving absolutely 0 fricks, with sufficient charisma to get 70+ speech and being at the bare minimum level 8.
A kid saying you're gonna be picking up teeth with broken fingers won't be taken seriously. An actually threatening sociopath who just barged out of your bunker and at gunpoint states he's going to enjoy using a piledriver on your butthole will be. Its gigantic crackhead energy and for the third worlder majority of americans, one would think they'd have figured this out already.
>that is literally something the autistic kid would say to someone who is bullying him before he gets his ass kicked ten ways til sunday
That gave me a good chuckle.
It sort of works if you take the Courier's ability to face tank multiple gauss rounds to the dome at face value, and the fact that you need to be good at rhetoric (70 Speech req) to take the perk.
Outside of that it really doesn't though, and it takes a lot of stretching to make this scenario look not moronic to an outside observer.
>five dudes in power armor and the most dangerous weaponry in the Wasteland threaten your life
>you tip your fedora so aggressively they piss and shit themselves in fear
>despite them outnumbering you
>and outgunning you
>and in spite of the fact that hitting Paladin rank in the BoS requires quite a bit of combat experience to start with
They're just going to firing squad you and, if you didn't have a bajillion HP and 80% DR from magical potions masquerading as drugs, it would work.
It's just a classic example of bad framing. If this line came out of Frank Horrigan after he smoked two other Knights it would be pretty good. But it's coming out of the 5' 10" generic NV player model with little preamble in a situation that would be hilariously stacked against you if it weren't for RPG numbers, so it comes off as silly.
[Speech 100] Yes
>Fallout NV dialogue choices
>can spec into being able to use special dialogue options, albeit cringy ones, which can impact the outcome of events in unique ways
>Fallout 4
>YES
>YES
>SARCASTIC YES
>NO
To be fair in Fallout 4 you can also walk away if you get bored by the conversation.
The first Emil Immersive Sim.
>Emilversive Sim
I can't belive I'm saying this, but, if I had to give the fallout 4 dialogue system props for something, it'd be that. I like just walking off from conversations, or instigating hostilities by attacking people when they're trying to talk to me.
Oh, and having actual coonversations between a group of more than two people. And companions budding in. That's really it.
Conversation with multiple people I agree, that's a great addition.
It was done in much better in The Outer Worlds but we can't talk about that one.
>NO
actually it goes like this instead
>NO (BUT YES)
don't forget you can also pick evil options frick in NV compared to 4 the most you can be is a smug frick that begrudgingly does it anyway
Liar
There isn't a NO option just an I will do it later option
terrifying presence makes sense when i've cleared out literally every legion camp, death claw nest, cazador playground, tunneler tunnel, me saying ur gonna die is scary because it's true >:(
>spoken words caused a vulnerability in power armor to appear
riveting film analysis, visajeet
the scene
So, like... Why did nobody fix it?
they cant even make functioning toilets
They have helicopters.
According to FO76's lore, fresh suits of post-war power armour are being made.
>According to FO76's lore, fresh suits of post-war power armour are being made.
76 was loreraping years before the show was a thing
Even Raiders make power armor. I imagine the underlying frame with all the tech is the actual thing that you can't just make and you need to find instead, because everything on top of the frame is just pieces of metal.
>fresh suits of post-war power armour are being made.
The Advanced Power Armor line was made entirely post-war. There were only incomplete drafts of it before the bombs fell.
What makes it even more egregious to me is that they're all wearing Bethesda's dogshit t-60 armor, which was shoved on the game by a retcon in Fallout 4, stating it was a modified version of the t-45 armor and more advanced than the t-51
So, the flaw which Ghoulggins talks about was discovered 2 fricking editions ago and no one ever bothered patching it out, despite it being a major flaw and widely know
That's how you know this show was made by Bethesda
Gradually, I began to hate them
T51 is an improved and far superior version, they found it was too expensive to be practical. So, they recycled all the old T45 frames and added heavier armor/some other shit to make the new T-60s. It's a bit imprecise to say "2 generations later" when in reality the T51s were a different line, and likely don't have said issue. T-60s, still using the cheap and somewhat improvised T45 frame have the issue still, it would seem.
>claims to have watched the show
>too moronic (naturally, you're a frogposter) to notice he used all the special ammo before Nogimus showed up out of nowhere
>once more in the flaw scene he's shown specifically using special ammo
Dumb frogposter
>T51 is an improved and far superior version
Then why does Fallout 76 says it's "The most advanced suits of Power Armor to see extensive use"?
>when in reality the T51s were a different line, and likely don't have said issue.
Why aren't they wearing it then. Like in Fallout 1 and 2?
Serious question anon, are you illiterate?
Are you?
T-51 is widespread in use. We see it all the time in 1 and 2, with examples both pre and post war.
look at your quoted statement of mine and look what you responded to me with. I never claimed "T51 never saw use", I said that it was found to be too expensive to be practical, with an omitted following statement "for the average soldier", which it was, which is exactly why the T-60 was put into design/production. Your second quoted bit and your response don't really line up either, there's an obvious answer as to why [this chapter of BoS] isn't wearing it, because assumedly they don't have them lying around. IF you're actually too moronic and are simply stating "Why don't we always use the best thing???" I'm going to assume you are none too observant, given most people don't always use the best option/most expensive option in every situation, be it due to availability, monetary restrictions, lack of need, or a billion other answers.
Another obvious answer to your moronic question is "the T-60 didn't exist in Fallout 1-3/NV", so if you have another dumb question why people aren't wearing those in the old games, I hope you get strangled to death. Perhaps most of the T-51s were lost after Fallout 1/2 when the Enclave exploded.
>I said that it was found to be too expensive to be practical
According to what. Everyone had a suit of it on classic Fallout. How the frick are you investing in a set of power armor, but one version is too expensive. Why invest in Power Armor at all then. Missiles are cheaper.
>because assumedly they don't have them lying around.
How. They had them years ago.
>given most people don't always use the best option/most expensive option in every situation
Are you moronic? Do yo think the military issues subpar equipment to its soldiers and then keeps the good stuff locked up?
>Another obvious answer to your moronic question is "the T-60 didn't exist in Fallout 1-3/NV
Oh so it's a moronic retcon that only causes problems. Okay. Gotcha.
>Perhaps most of the T-51s were lost after Fallout 1/2
How.
>How the frick are you investing in a set of power armor, but one version is too expensive
t45 - Pz IV
t51b - Tiger I
t60 - Pz V Panther
Wasn't the Tiger 1 prone to failure ?
The metaphor doesn't make work because tanks have different advantages. The t-51 however, is simply better in every way to the other models
>government designs T-45
>has an excess of frames for it, standard production
>designs T-51b
>superior in every way, but is cost prohibitive to give to the common soldier
>designs the T-60 using the excess T-45 frames, cheaper, but still gets the job done
>moronic anon (you) thinks this somehow is unrealistic/not a good explanation
in every way, but is cost prohibitive to give to the common soldier
That's not true at all. Soldiers were shown using it all the time
>has an excess of frames for it
You have a source for that?
>designs the T-60 using the excess T-45 frames
Doesn't really make any sense. If t-60 was jus retrofitted t-45s then you'd maybe have a point, but that's not the case at all. It's a completely new model, Bethesda just wanted to reuse the t-45 design
>moronic anon (you) thinks this somehow is unrealistic/not a good explanation
It really isn't and the lengths you gays go to justify a moronic retcon who does nothing but add an ugly design, is staggering
>Doesn't really make any sense. If t-60 was jus retrofitted t-45s then you'd maybe have a point, but that's not the case at all. It's a completely new model, Bethesda just wanted to reuse the t-45 design
Originally, it was going to be a reimagining of T45 but then they went and made T45 anyways, so it ended up being spun off into its own separate suit. It being a retrofit just makes sense, given that it shares most of the design motifs of the T45.
>It being a retrofit just makes sense,
It would, but that's not really the case in the lore
Wouldn't a big thing with doing a refit like that be to fix something like a glaring weak spot in the front of the armor...?
T60 refit and rollout was mainly to supply 'peacekeeping' troops with PA units to squash civil unrest, so on top of budget/resource concerns it probably wasn't considered a priority because they were going to be fighting civilians, and the vulnerability wasn't going to really come into play with the kind of resistance they expected to deal with
>If t-60 was jus retrofitted t-45s then you'd maybe have a point, but that's not the case at all.
The Ghoul says exactly this in the TV show althoughbeit.
kinda funny to me that you guys clearly never read anything about the T-60 and are sitting here arguing about it; half of your moronic diatribe about the damn suit is answered on the wiki page.
Regardless, as to why the BoS here may be using it, here's a line from the wiki/Fallout 4, that's shown in the show plenty as well.
"After the Great War, T-60 power armor became a rare sight until the reformed Brotherhood of Steel under Elder Arthur Maxson recovered a substantial number of these suits and adopted the T-60 as the service uniform of its soldiers, compatible with Vertibirds and allowing troops to deploy by simply jumping out the door.[6] Competitive falling by soldiers off duty established the practical height for airborne deployments at up to Prydwen's altitude when in hover mode,[7] or about 50 meters (165 ft).[8]"
So, given their use with Vertibirds and how they're used in the show, makes sense to me. Sorry you're too dumb to read up on it.
>After the Great War, T-60 power armor became a rare sight until the reformed Brotherhood of Steel under Elder Arthur Maxson recovered a substantial number of these suits
Where? Were they all on one place? How come other Elders didn't recover it?
And why would they make it the "service uniform" when the previous standard pa was better?
Did you continue reading (you didn't) where they use it due to the compatibility with their vertibirds, and to have a standardized kit?
Answer the questions
>Vertibirds
Are post-war Enclave tech. It doesn't make sense for them to be "compatible" with armor the enclave didn't use
What? no they werent moron, they were made by the US military as early as 2072, god you are so stupid
I hate you and everything you stand fot
Do you think that this specific Brotherhood of Steel chapter has a monopoly on all frames of T-51s? Do you think they went to the fricking Power Armor store and just decided to buy T-60s over T-51s?
>They had them years ago
this specific branch? A Brotherhood of Steel group may have used them 70? years prior, doesn't mean they just have full access to them
>Do you think the military issues subpar equipment to its soldiers and then keeps the good stuff locked up
homie how the frick are you so fricking stupid? Does the US air force only field F-22 Raptors at all times? I'll give you a hint, they have a ton of less expensive planes/planes better suited for roles/newer planes (like the F-35) which are "lesser" in many ways than the F-22, but they still use them.
>it's a moronic retcon
It's a retcon that newer games introduced things that older games didn't have? have a nice day you literal brainlet.
>Do you think that this specific Brotherhood of Steel chapter has a monopoly on all frames of T-51s
It doesn't need to have monopoly to have them
>this specific branch?
Yeah, the west coast BoS. Their bunker is like 12 squares from LA.
>I'll give you a hint, they have a ton of less expensive planes/planes
You can't be this moronic. What's the cost of fielding Power Armor?
>which are "lesser" in many ways than the F-22,
Because they have different functions you, mongrel ape. The different models of PA all do the exact same thing, but one is explicitly better than the other.
>t's a retcon that newer games introduced things that older games didn't have
Yes. You finally understood the problem. Shame your defective brain took this long to do it
Holy shit you're so stupid it fricking hurts. The government doesn't have infinite money and resources, they have to use what is available to arm their troops. This specific group of BoS who attacked the NCR Remnant compound did not have any T-51bs lying around, for whatever reason. The "cost of fielding power armor" could be anything from support, maintenance, replacement parts, etc. Perhaps the BoS found it impractical to field T-51b power armor in every situation because replacement parts were less common due to the fact that far far far less of them were ever produced, and the failing branch of the BoS as portrayed in the show was not trusted with them/didn't have them available. If the T-60 does the same job in 95% of circumstances, they'll probably find that adequate.
>because they have different functions
and yet the Military still flies/flew the F-15 and F-16 for quite some time, even though the F-22 was built to replace them. They still fly the F-22 despite the F-35 functionally doing the same role as them, and it being markedly cheaper and having no issue of sourcing replacement parts. Your whole argument betrays the fact that you know nothing about modern militaries, production, logistics, none of it. Go play in traffic you literal mongrel.
>for whatever reason
Lmao
>could be anything from support, maintenance, replacement parts
Show me a single source where it's stated that's harder for them to acquire t-51 parts
>and yet the Military still flies/flew the F-15 and F-16 for quite some time
And yet it's not all they fly, but t-60 is the only armor you see in show
>Your whole argument betrays the fact that you know nothing about modern militaries, production, logistics, none of it
Lmao, the mall ninja is mad his gay show is moronic
>Go play in traffic you literal mongrel
Go have a nice day like you're supposed to, genetic dead end
>suit is less common and more expensive
>why is it harder for them to acquire parts
yea it's a mystery
>>suit is less common and more expensive
Except it's not. It was the most common and widespread suit.
>why is it harder for them to acquire parts
Why would it be? They need to scavenge it of the same places they would other suits
>Are you moronic? Do yo think the military issues subpar equipment to its soldiers and then keeps the good stuff locked up?
Literally yes, fricktard. Military equipment is supplied by the lowest bidder. Superior but more expensive projects are mothballed or only issued in small numbers.
>Literally yes, fricktard
Except not.
>Superior but more expensive projects are mothballed or only issued in small numbers.
Give me examples of troops using shitty equipment while the good one is locked up
(You don't get a (You) for this one)
It's wild that the Nazis gave all their best equipment to their front line soldiers and it was all readily available garbage
It couldn't be that they didn't mass produce, say, lorries because of a critical shortage of rubber, for instance. Truly the horse drawn transports were the best available option and they didn't have ANY automobiles that they kept out of the field because partial deployment of inconsistent resources is a good way to lose a shit ton of them to attrition and lack of spare parts
Oh wait, they DID do that with tanks later in the war and there were no consistent spare parts so they ended up with a bunch of scuttled ranks left out in the war zone followed by their complete defeat. Maybe they should have deployed a less flashy but easier to produce in bulk design to the front lines and kept their better quality options back for strategic missions? LIKE THE ALLIES DID
>(You don't get a (You) for this one)
>Too afraid of directly replying
Lmao
>It couldn't be that they didn't mass produce,
The BoS doesn't produce the suits, moron. They're all there already. Can you find me examples of the nazis locking up their trucks in warehouses and then deciding instead to opt for horse drawn carriages?
Thanks for the free (You)
I am very devilish
But to cover your question, we know that Germany did have access to automobiles and that they did choose to use horses instead https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_II#:~:text=The%20German%20Army%20entered%20World,the%20Army%20reached%201.1%20million.
Naturally new vehicles fresh off the production line don't roll straight out the factory door and into battle. They would be stored ahead of deployment and once a significant surplus was created and they could be deployed in bulk.
See, it all makes sense if you follow the logic past the end of your nose.
>we know that Germany did have access to automobiles and that they did choose to use horses instead
There's nothing in the article stating that.
All it says is that " Luftwaffe Field Divisions were designed to be lean and rely on trucks and halftracks but in real life these were substituted with horses and mules" which isn't indicating preference.
>Naturally new vehicles fresh off the production line don't roll straight out the factory door and into battle.
t-51 pa is 200 years old. It's not new and it's not being produced
(You) are beyond reach it seems
Troll or otherwise I will now move on with my day
>still seething
>still too afraid to reply
>everything is scarce, country is collapsing
>these suits are a hasty refit of an older PA platform to bolster numbers to crush civil unrest as a result of the above
>they would have to redesign the entire torso plate to fix this and they do not have the R&D budget or materials to do this at scale required
>Ghoulggins has to use what is basically a bolter pistol to exploit it
>he also only knows about this flaw because he previously wore one, Brotherhood scribes/techs may not necessarily know this flaw unless it was noted in official documentation
The brotherhood who arguably have more experience wearing power armor than anyone short of the enclave didn't notice it in 200 years? Get real
The military normally fricks up with a lot of things
>Weapon jams in the jungle? Oh well
>Guns on planes are old-school, we only need missiles
>Weapon's a piece of shit? Keep using it and maybe we'll get something new
>Osprey? Yeah it looks cool let's keep using it
>Guns on planes are old-school, we only need missiles
They were right though.
They were but the technology just wasn't there at the time. Nowadays it's a different story.
>aim at a guy
>let him keep reloading
>he talks about a flaw in your armor
>dont just gib him with your guns
Shit writing
He was level 50 moron
how sad is your life
I bet you aren't even level 10 shut the frick up noob
owned his fricking ass
nice bro got him good
>Shit writing
the fnv has shit writing too
got it
Good mornig sir!
something something hubris
oh man it really subverted my expectations when the ghoul killed the people he was threatening for the 20th time
He leveled up
It's written by israelites for women what do you expect?
It's my favorite new meme
The frick is this?
that’s the “halo” show
slowest explosion of my life and holy frick 1 shot destroying the entire fuel line because it started a fire is hilarious
>kills a guy
>doesn't get lit up immediately
So what kind of plot armor is this ballsack on?
Maybe the heavies if season 2 he goes a knife/unarmed fight against a deathclaw
VATS
It was still his turn obviously moron
he spent 3 ap to shoot his gun and it was still his turn
Terrifying Presence perk
Implant GRX with perks
They thought PA makes them immortal and got mindfricked heavily
>They thought PA makes them immortal
Big bears are an exception I guess?
>Shoot at fully armed men
>others stand there instead of opening fire
I hate new movies so fricking much. why do people enjoy such slop?
It's always been this way. 80s movies being like this is what inspired the combat in Ocarina of Time.
It gets worse too, he had a whole fight with Maximus in episode 2(iirc) where he was just b***h slapping the goul around with power armour, now that his power armour opponent isn't in full plot armour he suddenly reveals that he could have one shot the 14th stranger in that town to get between him and his mark, after he shot the other 13 people in the head immediately.
Tbh the show was good, but there was also some stupid shit going on.
Bad guys aiming guns but never firing is my least favorite trope next to bad guy and good guy having a fight, bad guy gets the upper hand and about to deliver the final blow, a shot/person off screen kills the bad guy.
It unleashed my autism so much that one of my favorite movies of all time is Swordmaster, a chinese over-the-top fantasy drama, but the ending is two swordmasters fighting at their peak and only through skill does one of them manage to deliver the final blow.
please tell me how you felt about the 7 vs 3 sword fight in GoT with the guy going 5v1 while dual wielding
>armor has a weak spot on the fricking chest
>the one part that is most likely to get shot at
I dont know man, that seems like a major design flaw.
the armor is mainly a heavy weapons platform
bringing overwhelming firepower is what matters most
being bullet proof is just a bonus
And no one has ever found out except for that ghoul, kek.
>Fallout "fans" when Power Armor is common in FO4: >:((
>Fallout "fans" when Power Armor is uncommon and strong enough that few know its very minute weakpoints except a centuries-old, expert bounty hunter that was alive and using it in one of the few conflicts where enough repeated fire at every location could've exposed that weakness: >:((
Ok. Looks like the showrunners were right to say there's no pleasing you folx
I was about to reply in seething anger till I spotted the "folx"
laid it on a tad too thick, sister
>Fallout "fans" when Power Armor is uncommon and strong enough that few know its very minute weakpoints except a centuries-old, expert bounty hunter that was alive and using it in one of the few conflicts where enough repeated fire at every location could've exposed that weakness: >:((
How would he have been using it?
The T-60 wasn't put into service until after Achorage. He wasn't in the army then, so he wouldn't have been serving in it.
In the full scene he states he used T-45 and he wonders if T-60 has the same issue.
Of course its just a crappy buffed version of t45 that went to gym but forgot welding chest day KEK
No he used one shot
No you dolt, the point is that you'd only find out about it in a situation where thousands of bullets are firing at the Power Armor and thus there's more chances for one to somehow strike such a minute and mythical weakpoint. The conflicts that the Brotherhood enters wouldn't provide chances for them or their enemies to learn about the weakness properly.
>Fallout "fans" when Power Armor is uncommon and strong enough that few know its very minute weakpoints
A weak point it shouldn't even be physically possible to have
>except a centuries-old, expert bounty hunter
Bounty hunters are, in general, massive regards who failed to become regular cops
>that was alive and using it in one of the few conflicts where enough repeated fire at every location could've exposed that weakness:
Who was magically the only one who figures this out.
Just admit it was a moronic power fantasy scene
you're saying this on the site where the internet's most bitter resentment filled c**ts congregate to piss and moan unendingly. yes of course there's no pleasing them.
Why didn't they shoot back?
Uh, that's a main character sweaty
They knew he was an essential character
They were stuck in dialogue.
charisma too high
It's even worse w/ the music
T-51 remains superior.
jesus frick. Todd's PA is so fricking shit... First it's a prototype that is available in gorillions. Then it's "the most advanced" model, based on that prototype is also available in droves. Now this bestest PA, a human-sized tank designed for break-throughs can be penned with small firearms. And they don't even return fire.
Wasn't planning on watching the show, probably not going to anyway. Fricking normalgays.
FO power armor was always vulnerable to bullets, T-51b is canonically rated against 7.62x39, and 7.62x54 at angles/range.
It's also a nice not of integration with gameplay
Since classic Fallout worked with DR, you were basically invulnerable to small guns with PA, but still took damage from the big hitters of energy weapons and big guns
No it worked with dt/dr but dt absorb fully damage unlike troony vegas that left 20% always without a mod tweak
In clasics it was a bullshit critical
>show is chock-full of scenes just like this
>"great show btw, very well written. only nerds irrationally hate it"
have the shills won? how in the hell is this shit good? is it because other video game adaptations are so much worse this looks like gold dust in comparison?
>have the shills won?
Are you new? Shills are always in force in the first season and normalgays are super easy to please
At least normal gays are pleasable. You just hate everything for the sake of hating and you know it. Not everyone is a whiny b***h that digs a whiner's foxhole the instant they spot something that is open for even a little bit of negativity. You are just too simple to notice your own behaviour.
>At least normal gays are pleasable
So are pigs. They're very easy to please, that's not a quality.
>You just hate everything for the sake of hating and you know it.
Nope, I just don't like eating shit. I'm not even that hard to please to be honest. It's just that standards have fallen so low, they're not even trying
>You are just too simple to notice your own behaviour.
>behavioUr
Lmao. The shills really are indian
I bet you're doing it for free
>have the shills won?
Manufactured consensus with critics and ecelebs has it over before it even began for all but the most egregious of sloppa. The showrunner Geneva Robertson-Dworet also wrote Captain Marvel and the shitty Tomb Raider reboot
wtf?! they can fly now!
Because the show is good and most adaptations are garbage. Action Heroes get away with stuff they shouldn't in every action movie/show. You're favorite action hero has had moments where he should have been shot or enemies should have just attacked at the same time but didn't. as for plot holes they're mostly minor and right now can be still given the benefit of the doubt.
The show is hard carried because it's set design is insanely good and everything else is 'good enough' to not drag that down.
>Fricking THIS is what people on here have been shilling for the last week
I knew it was going to shit. Always trust your instincts.
Holy yikes. What the frick.
What was that delayed blood? Is he firing explosives or something?
HE/Ramjet rounds, so it probably ricocheted off the back of the armor. In the earlier scene with said rounds you see them punch a football/soccerball sized hole in flesh/a wall.
Nice. I'm glad they at least seem to get the over the top violence right.
Yea there were a number of pretty brutal scenes in the show, guy getting his head crushed by a power armor fist closing on it was one such moment. I was a bit surprised they went that far, honestly.
Even the ghoul shot a kid in cold blood to avoid retaliation, too bad bethesda games now are so gays you cant kill boomers inside an old spaceship in gayfield
>is he firing explosives
yes. In the second episode the back of his bullets even has "BOOM" written on it
Yes. His gun is basically a bolter pistol from 40k
ok i can but he had a special bullets for penertration, I can buy he has knowledge of power armour weakness, What I dont buy is not getting lit up by everything they have, if this was the game everyone would be trying to kill him.
They try right after that clip of the scene ends.
>they try
He's standing right there in the open
Armor class too high, to hit rolls too low.
They're standing there for a few seconds because they can't believe a brother in armor just went down from a simple frontal shot. And also because its to let the ghoulman say his one liner for dramatic effect you autist.
>some autist drivel
>you're an autist
Seems consistent with Bethesda writing.
I remember being confused by this, what the frick is this even supposed to be
>you have to have a nice day
>why?
>because you just do, okay???
>i'm not so sure about that
>if you don't then you'll keep going
>you're absolutely right, i'll kill myself
No professional, employed writer can be so moronic that they'd put this in a released product that I think this entire section got fricked by crucial, cut content or something.
Dumb, nonsensical speech checks against the final boss is a recurring theme in Fallout games. New Vegas has the classic and equally stupid "you need to leave right now because if you win you'll overextend yourself" moment. Fallout 1 is the only one of them that did it well.
bait used to be believable
>I don't like it so it's bait
Whatever helps you cope, buddy
How is he baiting?
>Fallout 1: You need to pass several of the hardest speech checks in the game to have the master even consider that his plan could have flaws in it. Then you need to provide hard evidence from a computer he doesn't have access to that his plan won't work for him to even start doubting it. Once he realizes that finalizing the Unity project is just going to eventually doom humanity, and that he's caused so much damage for a lost cause, he decides to destroy himself all of his research so no one tries it again.
>Fallout 2: Frank Horrigan is too stupid/stubborn to even bother listening to what the Chosen One has to say. The best you can do is convince some Enclave soldiers to help you fight him.
>Fallout 3: "You should have a nice day, because making people follow you is mean and other people will do it in the future." "Oh ok sure" This is of course ignoring that him killing himself doesn't mean that someone else can just do what he did, making the sacrifice pointless.
The Lieutenant is also impossible to convince with the evidence in 1 as he is too dedicated to the mutant cause and immune to logic. A fanatic.
1 Isn't really that hard.
You just need Vree's autopsy and getting that is almost guaranteed
So you agree with
that 1 does it well and 3 & NV do it poorly and just called it bait because you're illiterate, got it. Glad we cleared that up.
>and 3 & NV do it poorly
NV actually does it well, just not on the final boss for some reason
If you know Caesar has a brain tumor you can convince Silus to squeal more easily and stop Hanlon from killing himself.
The logic you point to Lanius is also pretty solid, unlike with Eden, (though only really on barter, speech is just a big bluff)
It really just needed to be unlocked based of some choice side quests you do for the factions
I actually dont mind Lanius being so easily skippable with the check because letting him live is a moronic choice no matter what your faction is
NV's still makes sense because it's going to take a lot of convincing to make a lower-intellegence leader who got to his position through sheer brutal, violence who is hell bent on restoring the honor of the man who gave him everything that he had, that going through with what he's doing is just going to end up ruining everything. Most people only make fun of it because they've only seen the super reductive conclusion of "you go too far so you will die later" "oh ok i not go too far" and don't try to see any of the nuance in the situation. That still doesn't justify poor writing for a previous game even if this is poor writing.
The Barter check is slightly more reasonable.
>Frank Horrigan is too stupid/stubborn
Stubborn? Yes, stupid? No. Frank is a fanatic through and through, mere words were never going to convince him when he's dead set on killing you.
The speech to Lanius is only egregious if Caesar is still alive because in that case he's literally being told to kill himself. When all the propaganda that Lanius has been fed is that the NCR is overextending and that's why the Legion will kill it, realizing he's doing the exact same thing would give him pause.
>talk an AI to death like Kirk used to do by passing a very hard skill check
What's the problem? Eden himself admits he was never supposed to become sentient and that he's still following his programming; you use logic to prove he's making mistakes, which means he's not as perfect and superior as he thinks so he reverts to following orders.
None of what you said occurs in this dialogue. You have actually generated a fantasy reality.
I was pissed off i couldn't join eden and the enclave so i did the next best thing and nuked the brotherhood.
I think that was fallout3 biggest flaw, you could choose to be a murdering slaver but forced to follow the good path in the main quest.
Not enough people talk about how fricking atrocious Fallout 3 gets after you save Liam Neeson from the simulator. If it was any other game company, they would be raked over the coals and be ridicule like it was the video game version of The Room.
>this is the 9/10 goatyay show that everyone's been shilling so hard for
I'm not even a loregay, I'm willing to separate show and game but this just looks like shit.
>people really complaining that this interaction isn't realistic in an alternate universe post apocalyptic show with talking mutants and ghouls
>First guy clearly collapses
>They just stand still
This is the garbage Amazon shills defend?
>is that one man with no body armour and an old fashioned slow reloading shotgun in the open
>clearly a group of armoured men with heavy weapons stand no chance
Am I only one who is too moronic to get why Goggins even decided to fight them?
Goggins is one of those characters that wants to rule himself and the situation but simultaneously can't wait to die. In other words, he doesn't give a shit and does as he pleases until someone offs him and no one has.
So what stopped the guys in power armor that were still alive from slightly turning to throw off his aim and gunning him down while he tries to get a better shot? I mean they pretty much need to be facing him directly for his trick to work.
>So what stopped the guys in power armor that were still alive from slightly turning to throw off his aim and gunning him down
CHARISMA motherfricker!
Anon the show was obviously written by a noguns bethtard.
m8 I'm a noguns moron but even I understand the physics of objects hitting other objects at angles. You're sincerely suggesting that professional writers for a multimillion dollar company are somehow dumb enough to not understand that basic concept that a child could learn from bouncing a ball from a wall?
HAHAHA THEYS LIKE THE STUPID STORMTROOPERS IN MY STAR WARS AND MARVEL SLOP XDD
>next scene is the ghoul killing everyone in the dark and brotherhood can't hit him because the lights are off
>giant fricking light on the power armor helmet
>nobody turns it on
Bravo
They just panicked, it's a realistic reaction when you meet a noseless cowboy in a silly hat you can hear yoddeling from whenevevr he goes and whose gun makes bizzare sounds.
>high ranking members of military organization that wear armor which can (according to original lore) withstand close range rocket blast is getting penetrated by makeshift gun and then they just "panic"
I will never watch this show no matter how many shills pajeetstan sends my way.
>high ranking members of military organization that wear armor which can (according to original lore) withstand close range rocket blast is getting penetrated by makeshift gun and then they just "panic"
The so-called "high-ranking members" are also weak to bears.
BoS has fallen, billions of bunkers must be blown up.
>which can (according to original lore) withstand close range rocket blast
Nah, PA is only invulnerable to small arms fire. I forget the exact force it can withstand but something like a .308 can penetrate it
I'm too moron to understand this, what's the problem?
they just let him reload on gunpoint, while making threats
sure, they can be terrified when they realize power armor doesn't make them immortal, but he's in no position to do them any harm when he starts the monologue, fricker should get smoked
you've never watched a TV show or movie, have you, anon?
>they can be terrified when they realize power armor doesn't make them immortal
PA has honestly never made the BoS immortal, except maybe in FO1. The guys in 3 get fricked up from the floor up and the dudes in 4 take plenty of losses themselves. The show seems to be really wishy washy on just how strong PA is in practice.
Not even in 1. It's explicitly stated how much damage it can take and it's not tanking the heaviest calibers
It's shown and mentioned how the robot security in West Tek managed to cut down the power armored BoS patrol, and they're armed with sniper rifles and shotguns
>I used to...
>YOUR JOURNEY ENDS HERE MUTIE
>proceed to laser blast his ass to a crisp
It's moronic but not as moronic as the Legion wearing Roman armor that leaves their legs completely exposed to gunfire.
gotta agree, an army wearing football pads is completely moronic when you think about for one second
It makes sense for cowboys to wearing what they wear in New Vegas considering it's the desert in 100 degree weather but the Legion wearing shiny, reflective metal in the desert? You would have a heat stroke in an hour.
modern soldiers dont wear armor on their legs you moron. only reason they wear pants is for the utility
Ill give you one guess where all the heat goes on a surface that reflects it. protip: its not TOWARDS the person inside
Reflective metal absolutely does heat up in the sun. You can mitigate heat absorption from sunlight with reflective material or white paint but it only gets you so far.
Wearing reflective gear would be bad for Legion line members anyway since it's intensely eye-catching and they mostly engage in guerrilla ambushes and infiltration. Dull red is probably not as subtle a color as they ought to be wearing but the last thing you want is for your ambushers to shine in direct sunlight.
the show makes a lot more sense when you realize every character has unique SPECIAL stats. maximus is low int, low chsrisma, max luck. the ghoul is max agi, max perception, small guns/stealth build. lucy has 4 in every stat but gets an early game boost from good starting gear and begins the story with a fully upgraded set of plot armor
Lucy had the worse and most gay gun
They have published stats and yours are wrong.
The officeholders ones are also wrong but anyway.
Have you even watched the show? Lucy absolutely had max luck and at least high perception. When she raids the organ chop shop the ferrals miraculously kill everyone but her while everyone but her kills all but the last ferral. The last ferral is just hesitant enough for her to realise she's got a gun right next to her foot. Just before that she kicks the Mister Orderly and he just so happens to cut her binding instead of cut her head in half or something.
In episode one she clicks on to random shit about her husbands behaviour to realise he's a raider just in time.
She leaves the vault and she walks straight to the right building with no stops in between. Goul shows up just in time to frick up the person smuggling, Max shows up just in time to prevent Goul putting a tennis ball sized hole in her, and the two of them spend long enough fighting for her to carry the limping basedboy out of town. It's a triple deus ex machina, especially Maximus.
After she escapes the chop shop she finds Max under some random fricking bridge just before he's eaten, then passes out as soon as she frees him so he can save her in kind. Lucy has Master Chief tier luck.
The official ones are also wrong*
Mobilegay.
There's nothing wrong with this. Earlier WW2 tanks had weak points like this and "shot traps" that directed shells down through the thinner upperside of the armor to kill the crew.
Yeah but no one would try aiming directly at it because it'd be like pissing at a shot glass from six feet away.
why didnt they shoot him?
They rolled low initiative
Gut should've been the weak spot, it always triggered my autism how the flexible and thus most vulnerable part is completely exposed.
... Or just the most moronic addition to power armor, the exposed power core that blows up if you hit it with a peashooter. And exposed hydraulics too.
I don't mind rule of cool writing, but this is just obtuse. Why wouldn't they just shoot him? Why would he monologue in front of people trying to kill him? Why couldn't it be an active firefight with him commenting about it behind a pillar or something? I ain't watching this garbage show to figure it out.
He doesn't even have a reason to be there. He just appears because ???, kills the BoS (but only some) because ??? and then walks away to the next season.
Is it really as stupid in the show as you make it sound? Some of my normalgay friends are watching and seemingly enjoying it, but I wonder how good the writing can even be for video game adaption of Fallout.
it has a lot of dumb shit in it but had some genuine fallout moments. if you like the "what the frick" factor and the "whacky wild wasteland" feel coupled with severe glooming depressive moments ("My name is Martha") you will like it. If you are looking for a Wasteland type experience with FO1 atmosphere you will be disappointed. It is clear to me that many people who worked on the show at least understand some subtle parts of fallouts atmosphere.
It's a badly made tv show but it has le funny 50s music while people explode (ain't that so wacky?) so normalgays just slop it up without thinking about it.
It's bad even if you pretend that it isn't supposed to be a Fallout show.
AG 10 BUILD SHUT THE FRICK UP
that heavy metal armor looks a lot like cheap plastic
It is plastic. The suits are practical props. In ye old CRT days these would probably be adequate tbh but modern definition cameras and TV screens make it easy to tell. The high fps showings of the Hobbit actually had a similar problem; the props all looked light and fake because it turns out 24fps film gives you a lot of leeway when choreographing action scenes.
They use it wrong.
There's been a critical lack of talent in the SFX department ever since Stan Winstow died. He made that Iron Man suit im 2008 and the thing has only looked worse since.
It's the same thing with this, they don't know how to make it convincing. The sounds it makes, how you direct the actors inside, what movements they should be doing, etc.
Jesus Chirst, normaltrannies. How can you stand this trash?
Why do the group of guys with guns just stand there and watch him shot at them?
huh?
Hell even Elder Maxson would've had this man be turned into swiss cheese before this prune opened his mouth.
El Goggins knows how to use V.A.T.S.
holy SHIT that was kino, now time to read the other quote replies to find out why Ganker says it's bad actually and I'm dumb for liking it
The show had a good ending but oh my fricking god the bear killing the dude almost made me lose it. He was in a full body suit and somehow dies
Not only that he managed to punch the bear and stagger his skull because he make damage, also 10mm penetrate easily his skull and dies
this mary sue ghoul was todd's self insert wasnt he
No, he's literally Emil.
>knew about the flaw
>still had trouble killing Maximus in that first shoot-out in Filly when he was wearing the BoS armor
what the actual frick did Todd mean by this?
He was just playing with the homie cauae plot armor
>killed a bunch of people
>tried to shoot Lucy
>killed dog
>allowed mark to escape
>just to buck break some Black person, even though he could take him out with 1 shot
alright, I can respect that
The dog isnt dead just stabbed needing medical atention
>anon sees webm in Fallout show thread
>sees image reply that compares it to game
>anon combines those images to make a new thread for (you)s
>too stupid to make a webm so it's just a picture of a guy holding a bullet saying "there was a flaw"
moronic flaw design of the trash 60 power armor vs psychological warfare straight of star wars as rpg perk
Because this show really wasn't made for fans, they even said it.
IIRC, doesn't this cause them to attack you? I kind of remember them shooting me directly after this, and putting them all in the ground. Maybe a few of them ran away?
Or was I all in on the self defense grind?
>IIRC, doesn't this cause them to attack you?
They're gonna attack you anyway. Using the perk on them makes them briefly non-hostile giving you a initiative advantage
Go to Ganker moron, go frick yourself
buy an ad
IT GETS WORSE.
>T-65 series utilizes radically different protection principles from the previous power armor series with a departure from whole cast armor pieces to segmented armor layers notable in the torso piece and the pauldrons.
Effective, this means that the T-60 isn't even welded in the first place, but instead casted.
So, there isn't a weld for there to be a weakspot at...
Don't trust anyone who praises the show.
Don't trust anyone who praises Starfield.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO U DONT UNDERSTAND ITS OKAY WHEN OBSIDIAN DOES IT FNV IS GOOD CAUSE IT JUST IS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT KEEPS ME BUSY DURING THE PAINFUL TIME OF DILATION AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sometimes you just gotta eat a feller's ass jerky.
>A theoretical degree in Physics.
I clapped.
>Ganker loves to make crit builds in New Vegas
>Can't comprehend how Goggins managed to take down guys in Power Armor
You morons just want to b***h
Thats why you don't make a tv show based on a game like fallout it just doesn't work
Crit builds don't make enemies stand like morons while you shoot at them
10 LCK Crit builds in New Vegas are literally game breaking joke builds , on par with making your character 2 INT. You're basically just turning the wasteland into an anime at that point. Trying to play that off as some kind of serious , intimidating scene based around lore about a flaw in power armor that doesn't make sense not only doesn't get the hilarity of crit builds it tries to explain itself with *lore* which is even gayer
If you wanted an accurate LCK 10 tier crit build simulator , then Goggins would shoot one of the powered armored dudes in the chest and both of their heads would explode. Then he'd just look at his gun, shrug, and move on.
Reminder that China canonically has power armor too now.
Uhh I thought their answer was those cool stealth suits because they didn't have the raw materials to make power armor?
*was*, bethesda changed their minds because selling power armor in the cash shop is profitable
According to FO76's lore: China stole it and reused commercially available parts and combined it with what technology they could steal to make a suit.
But it also has a jetpack attachment for some reason.
>asians in fallout have 3 eyes
Bethesda's retcons keep getting more ridiculous
it was prototyped as a reaction to americas power armor
>tech that exists since the 2040s
>china lost a war to them in the 2050s
>NOOOOO THEY CANT BE DEVELOPING POWER ARMOR ITS NOT FAIR NOOOOOOO THEY CANT DEVELOP IT IN 20 YEARS+
fricking morons i swear
>tech that exists since the 2040s
The frick are you talking about. PA was developed and deployed in the 60s. And the war with the chinks was on that decade too.
They didn't have the time to develop power armor
LMAO LOOK AT THIS Black person MONKEY
Meds
A decade is more than enough time to get something together, especially when you consider that China almost certainly managed to capture/salvage some suits from US forces. It should be extremely rare and probably not very good, but there's nothing wrong with the idea of China managing to develop some sort of domestic power armour.
I still think it's a stretch
It's a short period of time plus the resource wars are on full swing and so is the nuclear panic, so development would be going towards other things
I don't think it's even a stretch, it's a straight retcon in the face of what China was established to be doing with their resources and tech in Fallout 3.
And before anyone goes ">fallout 3", China in the lore was completely unexplored on almost all fronts before Operation Anchorage.
Not to mention there's no need for a desperate last-ditch effort of copying PA if what was established in Operation Anchorage holds true because their superior technology level actually managed to match against America's superiority in raw materials, it just all ended in nukes anyway so the arms race was completely irrelevant anyway in the grand scheme of things.
>And before anyone goes ">fallout 3", China in the lore was completely unexplored on almost all fronts before Operation Anchorage.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Bethesda tried to be more original in their fallouts instead of recycling recognizable elements and retconning shit?
This at least looks more fitting to setting than their modern sci fi stealth suit or anything else from that DLC
dunno, I really liked the FO3 idea of Chinese/american tech
>american tech is basically THERE'S NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT except extended to everything they do because they're just swimming in resources so everything is shit and inefficient but plentiful
>chinese tech is much more efficient and intelligently designed due to necessity caused by lack of resources, so they adapt classic guerrilla tactics to forward operations with the aid of superior stealth technology
it becomes dull when everyone has the same idea of DUDE VACUUM TUBES AND METAL LMAO
>it becomes dull when everyone has the same idea of DUDE VACUUM TUBES AND METAL LMAO
So try something different but fitting aesthetic, instead having clash of 50s inspired Sci Fi and modern Sci FI
>chinese spies in America steal specs to West-Tek's PA frames
>send it back to China
>They produce armor compatible with said frames (either domestically or covertly on American soil)
>smuggle it into country
>steal PA frames (which were apparently plentiful since even civilian firms had use of them)
>you can now eventually run revolutionary ops in power armor on American soil
If you go by 76, there’s a thousand versions of power armor.
Yeah because the frames get used for civilian stuff
to be fair there are irl precedents for "losing faction makes a last ditch effort to make a copy of the enemy's weapon"
see: japanese developing a copy of the garand and making a grand total of 1945 of them
is there an automated way or a community dedicated to ripping 76 assets and modding them into 4?
There is some paywalled shit that lets you craft 76 items at the chem bench. I wish that those mods would at least add the items to vendors and loot lists instead.
Given the lore of east coast Fallout, this isn't too-far out of the realm of possibility as a post-war creation.
Fallout 3 introduced a company called Mama Dolce's, a food processing plant chain. There's a location in that game in the middle of DC which has a bunch of chinese ghouls, the reasoning for why is that Mama Dolce's was a front for Chinese espionage.
In Fallout 76 there's another Mama Dolce's plant that's used during the original main quest. There's an underground facility that the Chinese were still using post-war for survival as they were cut off after the apocolypse before they were wiped out by the Enclave. This place is also why there are the liberator bots in the nearby areas.
Given how they had a number of scouts after the bombs and how abundant privately owned power armour was in Appalachia for industrial labour, it's not too far out of the realm of possibility that a chinese remnant secured a derelict frame some time after the bombs and brought it back to Mama Dolce's to be reinforced. It does bear some similarities to the Excavator suits that were plentiful just a town south.
But, given the remnants were wiped out in Appalachia by the Enclave, there probably would have only been one, maybe 2 suits. It's more than likely an isolated incident.
wasn’t this just a cosmetic item for any power armor
I want to be media literacy pilled bros. All my friends and enemies (for the lack of better word, more like people openly dismissive towards my opinions) are unanimously in love with the show. Here is the only place I can criticize it really. If you point out inconsistencies with the show (like how we can't tell if Moldaver kidnapping Hank and Wilzig completing Cold Fusion are related events or not because we don't know nature of relationship between Moldaver and Wilzir or how would she even know Wilzig finished Cold Fusion, we literally don't know how or why main plotline actually started) you lack media literacy, if you point out inconsistencies with the overall Fallout series and lore you are nitpicking nerd who can never be pleased and toxic New Vegas fan. Why do people go out of their way to defend this show?
>Why do people go out of their way to defend this show?
It's the popular thing
Remember when Force Awakens was defended everywhere before Last Jedi crushed any good will?
>I want to be media literacy pilled bros.
The first step is to get off the HRT pills, friendo. You can't do anything about the mutilation you've inflicted upon your god-given flesh, but you can start to make amends now, on earth, before you must answer for it in heaven. Our lord is a loving lord, and he will find room in his heart to forgive even you.
I just legit think that tv shows have such a low level of quality to it that people are willing to look past a lot of bullshit if it entertained them just a little bit. Maybe time will be on your side.
I just think the show has an ill taste to it. The sex and gore felt weird and forced just for shock value.
Its just discourse with anything entertainment these days. I remember JoJo part 8 being a shitshow but Ganker was the only place that had people with the same view point. Shills, bots, fanboys and bandwagoners make up for most of the discussions online.
I felt the same with the Witcher show
I'm vindicated years later but obviously it doesn't matter.
Just wait. The Lesser Nolan managed to frick up a much stronger show in Westworld. Once this stops being the popular thing positive opinion will die down
It's not even the inconsistency with the lore or Black person fatigue or female protagonist I didn't like
the show just fricking sucks
Posts like this one make me appreciate my social circle and how out of touch they are with mainstream slop so much more. Literally no one I know gives a single frick about this show, or really any other recent one. We watched a short summary of the first season and everyone automatically concluded it was pure marvel-tier shit.
Imagine feeling peer pressured to waste your life watching garbage like that just because that's the only thing your dull-ass normalgay "friends" with no real hobbies or interests can talk about.
I suggest you to start conversation about the show from calling all your friends Black person loving trannies. It will pick up smoothly after this.
>about the show from calling all your friends Black person loving trannies.
Based
Make sure you gesticulate wildly and use the words "jigaboo nonsense" and "unmeasured semitism" somewhere too
i think the fallout setting is refreshing and compelling for a lot of normies, even in its doubly bastardized form. a ton of normies would probably love all the things fallout took inspiration from, but they don't get exposed to them because they just watch whatever mainstream slop they get fed. for what it's worth, the showrunners did understand that the core of fallout is a mix of sci-fi, folklore and classic fantasy tropes. i think they focused too much on the silly shenanigans shit, but that's what you get when your understanding of the setting primarily comes from fallout 4.
i think it's a fun show to watch if you can turn off your brain. i realize the whole "turn off your brain" meme is anathema to a lot of midwits, hence why they get filtered. but anyway, that's why the show is lauded i think. idiots are easily entertained and anyone smart will not waste their time with something they know they'll hate in the first place, or they'll go in with lowered expectations so they can enjoy it for what it is.
shill
>if you point out inconsistencies with the overall Fallout series and lore you are nitpicking nerd who can never be pleased and toxic New Vegas fan
It is another circle, isn't it? I remember when everyone who dared to criticize F3's writing (because it was honestly the only major problem with the game) or the ridiculous praise that its plot got in obviously paid reviews on major websites, was immedially called an "NMA grognard" that should get with the times and be grateful to Bethesda for mercifully adopting the series, regardless of what he said. Then NV came, and everyone liked it because it showed how good Fallout 3 can be if it is not written by mouthbreathing morons.
Fallout 4's plot was compared unfavorably even to F3's one, so they didn't even try to shill it and focused on different aspects. Bit now it's 2008 all over again. If you don't think that nuking Shady Sands alighns well with the setting, don't think that "capitalism so bad it literally wants to nuke the world even without any profits" is a deep social commentary, and don't consider an asspull about the flawed welding the mostest baddassestest thing to ever happen on TV, then you are a toxic NV fanboy that should get with the times and be grateful to Bethesda for mercifully adopting the series. And even worse: you are - gasp! - a gatekeeper oppressing poor bethdrones, basically a fascist.
I'm just glad NVhomosexuals are getting the toxic label
Maybe it will mean homosexuals and trannies will jump shit to inclusive Bethesda and I can enjoy one of my favorite games without sharing space with the world's worst demographic
>if you point out inconsistencies with the overall Fallout series and lore you are nitpicking nerd who can never be pleased and toxic New Vegas fan. Why do people go out of their way to defend this show?
that's the worst part of this whole thing with this show dropping is that any form of critique or comparison to past good fallouts on how it treats the overall lore is always met with getting shunned or categorized as a bad NV fan.
Feel like im being psyoped and people are willing to accept "no really erasing past established lore is a good thing", but I guess people just want stalker for nu-males.
Welcome to the same shit Star Wars fans went through when Disney wars shat the bed.
>if you point out inconsistencies with the overall Fallout series and lore you are nitpicking nerd who can never be pleased and toxic New Vegas fan. Why do people go out of their way to defend this show?
I can excuse the shitty lore inconsistencies.
What I can't excuse from the show is the absolutely moronic writing and directing.
Did you work on star field too?
Why the frick aren't they using Mk2's? They are superior in every single way, possibly cheaper to make and were tested and made post-war so they are viable.
Oh right, it's a Fallout 2 suit so it can't be used
Goggins looks like somebody you'd confuse for someone from the Jackass crew.
I dont trust anyone that trashes fallout anymore
they were wrong since fallout 3, they were wrong about nv and 4, they are wrong about 76, and they are wrong about the show
time to face facts
Just a reminder that Creation Club content is canon
>Defending anything bethesda related post oblivion
LOL
>>Ganker
Your shitskin shill Black person show for troony homosexuals dont belong here. Frick you.
Garbage show, will not watch.
Frankly the film industry is too full of nepo babies that should starve to death.
Isn't that just a dig at RPG Codex?
Can you morons please stay out of Ganker? The board is unusable due to you underage /misc/troony Gankerirgins making daily threads about how you're not going to watch it because black people and women hurt your feefees
Why? You scared that someone will liven up your dead-ass goyslop board?
It's taking up precious board space for them to post pictures of scantily clad child actresses
Cool, I'll start a new thread about it over there, then.
If there was a weekness then why didn't he exploit it in episode 2?
Used up all his specialty armor piercing ammo in the gunfight beforehand
>bethesdaslop lore
No real person would care about this shit. You do not exist.
Is it true they never ONCE name China by name in the show because Amazon sucks Chinese wiener?
Yup.
The Enemy is the "reds". They probably want to imply that it was the Soviets, despite the fact that in the Fallout world (at least going by Fallout 1 lore) the Soviet Union was friendly enough with the US gov that they had Soviet diplomats in the Vaults.
Hell, the soundtrack for Vault 13 even has someone speaking in Russian in the background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA8NFBYQR70
They do mention China by name but it is heavily implied vault-tec started the Great War
>They do mention China by name
No, they don't. Post proof.
I don’t fricking have to. if you care so much pirate it and learn for yourself
Doesn't say China, calls them Reds in episode 6 there is no direct China quote
his gun sounded so cool
that's not how welding works
god I hate "arts" people
Terryifying presence is such a shit tier perk, even compared to other dialogue focused ones.
They should have granted you a small likelyhood to make enemies flee (kind of like they sometimes do when their allies get rekt, but at complete random)
NV has quite a few stinkers in the perk list tbh. It gets points for trying to be creative but there are perks which are hilariously busted while others get weirdly tied down by what I assume must have been balance concerns. Them's Good Eatin' at level 20 and Survival 55 gives you regular access to some of the best healing items in the game. Tribal Wisdom at level 8 but Survival 70 gives you limb damage and poison resistance when being attacked by insects, which is nice but kind of irrelevant if you have OWB, and the cool thing it does (allowing you to eat bug corpses) is usually less effective than just looting the actual food items off of them and eating those. Junk Rounds also... exists and is terrible. It wouldn't even be useful at the start of DM.
Credit where it's due: they did try and I respect that. It was more than the effort Bethesda put forward in 4.
How could you not mention a mile in their shoes...
Fallout 4 perks suffer a lot from the moronic multi tier system being imposed on LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE ONE. Instead of leveling your energy weapons skill to max out your laser damage and then getting a cool perk like meltdown, you now slowly level it (minimum level requirements for each tier fricking suck) and gain random benefits with each.
Lead belly is by far the worst example. A perk that was already awful every time it showed up, now split into three. You need THREE perk points to nullifyi the already pitiful amount of radiation you get from eating SOME food items. Meanwhile solar powered level 2 gives you constant passive radiation recovery during daytime. It's like they only included it because it's in the earlier games. If they made it work like the survival skill in NV where it also makes food better, then it'd be good competition for the medic perk in the early to mid game.
I thought of it but I could not remember the name to save my life. I have to think there was some miscommunication during the writing of that perk because it is just so useless, especially compared to the other fare from OWB which are all busted somehow.
And yeah, the perk system in 4 is easily the worst of both worlds.
>in 3 you got a perk every level but they were basically just extra number go up bonuses
>NV tries to make them more impactful by making them every other level but also giving them a bit of a power boost and letting them alter how you play
>4 goes back to the perk every level system, but rolls skills into perks
>now you can't make number go up because perks are level gated and your number can't go any higher for three more levels
>also your SPECIAL allocation is slashed because you can spend a level up on a stat instead, which throttles perk acquisition even more
>the coolest perk for PA is locked to 10 STR, the one stat PA doesn't fricking benefit from
Fallout 4's system may be genuinely worse than Skyrim's in some respects which is really saying something.
>make a specific perk
>for a specific armor
>thats not good and early to get
>make that specific perk only work against specific weapons
>break the perk so it doesnt work at all
wtf did they mean by this
>wtf did they mean by this
>"You have 50 levels, just shut up and experiment a bit with crappy perks"
but the perk doesnt even fricking work at all lol. it just seems odd. stuff like thems good eating that requires specific items at least give you a good reward if you play survival. this one is just horribly balanced. it would be among the worst in the game even if it worked but got a cool little artwork at least.
>but the perk doesnt even fricking work at all lol
It's not like they intended for the perk to not work. And if you do fix it, it does prove itself somewhat useful against the fiends.
Shining Armor's whitelist is just typoed and the effect is so minor no one bothered testing it. It's dumb but at least it's easily patched.
why do the ghouls need to chug rad x to prevent going feral?
because the writers needed a reason for the cowboy not to join the other two character when they went into that vault full of Shady Sands survivors, so they arbitrarily took him out of the story for a couple episodes by needing drugs
i doubt this ever comes up again for as long as the show and games keep getting made
is it specifically stated its Rad-X? arent they only called "vials" ?
The scene was criticized for having the zombie-sponginess ghoul being left virtually unscathed by six men while he monologues and slowly kills the first guy when they just stand around and watch the first shot land. It's also stupid because he conveniently forgets this exploit when fighting the same power armor six episodes back. Your show is fricking boring.
I see trash every time I do a street view on your shithole country in google maps
I like the show but what does that line in NV have to do with it?
fallout is abysmal lore and IP. its pure trash and will never go anywhere beyond the first season because its all exposition , like most bad anime, they never go anywhere or progress the plot beyond "you are here now"
>the new vegas experience
don’t know what that means, but that girl is hot
you don't know what estrogen is? how old are you?
20 years, but I have a feeling this “estrogen” sounds bad
What is a good mid game silenced sniper in new vegas? I'd like to upgrade from ratslayer
Ratslayer > Sniper (Silenced) > Christine's Sniper > Anti-Materiel
Gobi's and Christine's rifles are better than Anti-Materiel rifle. Not only they have lesser requirements, they do better DPS if you get right ammo.
I don't think so. .50MG has match load and the rifle has some of the highest crit i the game
I mean, it's definitely more practical and easier to get, but doesn't deal more damage.
And Gobi can't be silenced, so I don't think it's that great as a sniper
The regular sniper rifle is easy to get, .308 ammo comes relatively easy also, so it can carry you the whole game till you get Christine's.
I'd download the ammo mods mail delivery, though, before it's immensely frustrating never finding the mods you want
Suppressing AMR is moot point because it DOESN'T become silenced. It only does big dick single shot damage but its' DPS suffers heavily due to burst and reload time. If you want silenced gun you get Christine's CoS rifle, which is identical to Gobi's rifle stats wise, but you pay price of repairing it more often.
Also math says otherwise.
>Suppressing AMR is moot point because it DOESN'T become silenced
Not completely like a melee weapon or .22, but it works on larger distances, just like the .308 rifles.
>It only does big dick single shot damage
... which is what you want for a sniper. If he wanted DPS with no care for stealth just pick up explosives or a minigun
Hunting rifle with scope is your best choice. If you got 100 lockpicking somehow, go to Sniper's Nest near Cottonwood Cove and get Gobi Campaign scout rifle. With high crit chance and hand loaded ammo that thing is a beast.
Dude the show could've followed the lore and the games to a T and people on Ganker would still find a way to b***h about it. Popular thing bad and I'm the only smart person who exists. That's the whole board.
>show could've followed the lore and the games to a T and people on Ganker would still find a way to b***h about it.
And yet it didn't
Curious
>proves my point
Heh, another tally on the whiteboard in my room about internet arguments I've won
But how can you have won when I did?
Checkmate, atheists
>yeah it was bad but even if it was good you'd say it was bad, that's why it's good
The shiteater's mantra
Do you guys think giving companions unlimited ammo on New Vegas was a good idea?
Most of the companion weapons are bad-middling so it's kind of a wash.
>Boone is king of sniper so there's that
>Lilly's is OK but she's more kept around for her perk
>Raul's is fine maybe? More of a perk guy again though
>Arcade's plasma defender is decent but nothing to write home about
>Cass' shotgun sucks ass and the AI is generally just bad at using them
Veronica is always in the fuggin' way with her power fist but when she connects she's not bad.
Yeah, they're not very good, but if you give them better weapons then they consume ammo like crazy, which is expensive and annoying to keep replacing
So I'm thinking if using the infinite ammo thin JIP has, because otherwise you just end favoring the melee companions (and Boone)
Lucy 😀
Guys help me out, I thought there was an NCR base in NV that you traveled to by getting sent there, similarly to the first time you go to the legion camp by boat
is there an NCR camp like that in NV or have I just made that up? I thought it was pic related at first but you walk there
There's Oliver's complex during the final battle, but you have to be siding with the Legion to get sent there I think.
>is there an NCR camp like that in NV or have I just made that up?
Maybe you're confusing it with Camp McCarran? You can walk there, but there's the monorail
nope I specifically remember the area had the different color grading, same as forlorn hope.
could it have been a console thing? First time I played NV was on 360
>different color grading
camp searchlight?
nope, it had the reddish / desaturated hue of fornlorn and also camp searchlight you walk to, its just part of the map.
I'm talking about an area you are teleported to. Again like when you go the legion camp. Is it possible this was a console thing?
The ghoul mentions the flaw on the genital plate of the power armor and abuses that against a BoS platoon. HOWEVER, the flaw was only present on the T-45 models sent to Alaska during the invasion, and that BoS platoon was wearing T-51 models
Fricking moron writers and directors
>and that BoS platoon was wearing T-51 models
T-60, Bethesda's awful retconned new armor
They're wearing T-60, which Bethesda retconned in 76 to be am upgrade kit for T-45d (after saying it was some super common advanced suit in 4 because they just can't control themselves).
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I see show I must shill
Posting this dude's shit is cheating honestly
It's like comparing Astartes to anything GW shits out
You got a point there but frick me it does not make me happy
How's f76, really
Pretty bad, but if you can find some friends and are the type to get hooked on mediocre game loops you'll like it
with the others helping you, it’s quite fun
They really hate full body protection in modern TV and film, don't they?
an actor can't market their likeness if their face is always covered
i still don't get why movies haven't copied the iron man movie thing where it shows the actor's face inside of the helmet with a HUD, it's the best of both worlds
>still don't get why movies haven't copied the iron man movie thing where it shows the actor's face inside of the helmet with a HUD
They have and it's annoying as shit
In Iron Man it served a purpose
As well as the hole in the chest there was also the new flaw of being able to get locked in the armour when it shuts down without power. Frick the show, they just did what they wanted.
>As well as the hole in the chest there was also the new flaw of being able to get locked in the armour when it shuts down without power
So let's tally
>doesn't protect you
>makes you slow
>can trap you
why would anyone use that thing?