I grew up with it (well sort of, I grew up with famiclones), there's a lot of old arcade shit as well as some more advanced games like Mario, Zelda and others, NES chiptune music is cool, it's plug and play like
>games without ANY bullshit >just lets you play >best zelda, best mario, good metroid, best dragon quest, goemon kino, best battletoads, best mega man, best kirby, best punch-out, good castlevania, kino licensed games like nemo, chip'n'dale and talespin, tetris, crystalis >etc. etc.
it's a mystery
said, some of the games can be very challenging so it's very satisfying when you actually beat them, etc.
>games without ANY bullshit >just lets you play >best zelda, best mario, good metroid, best dragon quest, goemon kino, best battletoads, best mega man, best kirby, best punch-out, good castlevania, kino licensed games like nemo, chip'n'dale and talespin, tetris, crystalis >etc. etc.
it's a mystery
Super Metroid > Metroid. Won't argue about Zelda, 1 is as good as LttP for me. My favorite Dragon Quest is 3, but I prefer the SNES version. The best Goemon games are on SNES. Mega Man, yeah NES wins here, Castlevania too. They are pretty close for me but overall I prefer SNES as a console.
I really hate Super Metroid, I've tried it many times and each time I get bored in 5 minutes. Too slow, bad physics. Map exploration just takes away from the action. I like Hagane, but that's still a far cry from Ninja Gaiden or Shinobi. I guess the SNES is good if you like first party games and exploration adventure.
As someone who's favorite console is the Mega Drive/Genesis, but also adores the NES, I can see why many have it as their favorite, in lots of ways I love it for the same reasons I love most of the late 80's/early 90's SEGA stuff... you'd have these video games that, back then, felt HUGE, they felt like these mountains to climb, these incredible tasks to do, since we keep losing and spend months to actually beat one of them... and most of them are 15 minutes to 45 minutes long... it's because they have this arcade philosophy to them, of pure gameplay and keeping the experience condensed and fun, there's isn't any padding or bloat. I actually got an NES after my Mega Drive/Genesis, a Famiclone to be more exact, but I felt right at home in it, it was fun.
One more thing about this style of video game that I still find so appealing, is how you keep getting beat by this condensed 30 minute long adventure, you spend months getting a little further each time you replay, until you genuinely MASTER it, because you HAVE to, and then when you finally beat it, you can finish this title that felt impossible like it's nothing, in a few minutes.
As if it wasn't hugely obvious this was a spedX quasi-bong thread. You're right, though. I'd trade my whole childhood for Chuckie Egg, Jetset Willy, and [autistic sim obsoleted by any sim newer than it]
Both are correct, NES was 10x more important due to its superb library, the Master System had impressive hardware and some of its titles look almost 16-Bit like, same for the Game Gear, but the library's not as strong, despite still being good in its own way, with a ton of classics too.
It's not my favorite, that has to be either the SNES or GBA, but there's lots of fun stuff on the NES.
>games without ANY bullshit
Oh come on, you know THAT is not true. The NES has stacks of classics, but it had a lot of garbage too. You'd just skip the garbage today, but it was a bit less easy to know back then.
>best zelda
Besides A Link To The Past, I honestly think that the best 2D Zeldas were Link's Awakening and then the Oracle games.
>best mario
Best 2D Mario, sure, but Super Mario 64 was fricking sweet.
>kino licensed games like nemo, chip'n'dale and talespin, tetris, crystalis
True, but back to that point about bullshit, there were also quite a lot of very bad license games too.
>Oh come on, you know THAT is not true. The NES has stacks of classics, but it had a lot of garbage too. You'd just skip the garbage today, but it was a bit less easy to know back then.
I don't think he meant BS as in quality, anon. It was more like there's no BS filler or padding, it's just pure gameplay and straight to the point without wasting the player's time, that's all.
>game design that doesn't insult me and take me for a moron
That was a thing on the NES. Not in the same way, but it was there.
Of course if you're a moron yourself, you might not think modern game design is insulting, on the contrary, you'd think it's made for you
I'd say something about you having a chip on your shoulder, but I'm too mesmerized by those graphics.
As someone who's favorite console is the Mega Drive/Genesis, but also adores the NES, I can see why many have it as their favorite, in lots of ways I love it for the same reasons I love most of the late 80's/early 90's SEGA stuff... you'd have these video games that, back then, felt HUGE, they felt like these mountains to climb, these incredible tasks to do, since we keep losing and spend months to actually beat one of them... and most of them are 15 minutes to 45 minutes long... it's because they have this arcade philosophy to them, of pure gameplay and keeping the experience condensed and fun, there's isn't any padding or bloat. I actually got an NES after my Mega Drive/Genesis, a Famiclone to be more exact, but I felt right at home in it, it was fun.
One more thing about this style of video game that I still find so appealing, is how you keep getting beat by this condensed 30 minute long adventure, you spend months getting a little further each time you replay, until you genuinely MASTER it, because you HAVE to, and then when you finally beat it, you can finish this title that felt impossible like it's nothing, in a few minutes.
The Genesis is really good too. Late 80s to early 2000s was a magical time for videogames in general, you had all kinds of amazing console, handheld, computer, and arcade titles around.
>simple, fun games >pretty much an endless amount of them >appealing visual and sound aesthetic (probably what I would associate with the word "video games" more than any other system)
its a library of 1,500 games based off no bullshit two buttons schemes and creative function before standardization killed ingenuity. not hard to figure out if you actually sit down with the larger library and play. not afraid of actual discovery and mystery being a greater piece of the puzzle than sheer content. these games are fun and easy to get into without holding your hand begging you to experience them.
As someone who's favorite console is the Mega Drive/Genesis, but also adores the NES, I can see why many have it as their favorite, in lots of ways I love it for the same reasons I love most of the late 80's/early 90's SEGA stuff... you'd have these video games that, back then, felt HUGE, they felt like these mountains to climb, these incredible tasks to do, since we keep losing and spend months to actually beat one of them... and most of them are 15 minutes to 45 minutes long... it's because they have this arcade philosophy to them, of pure gameplay and keeping the experience condensed and fun, there's isn't any padding or bloat. I actually got an NES after my Mega Drive/Genesis, a Famiclone to be more exact, but I felt right at home in it, it was fun.
One more thing about this style of video game that I still find so appealing, is how you keep getting beat by this condensed 30 minute long adventure, you spend months getting a little further each time you replay, until you genuinely MASTER it, because you HAVE to, and then when you finally beat it, you can finish this title that felt impossible like it's nothing, in a few minutes.
the nes had some cool shit on it, but i couldn't wait for something that was capable of better animations and more diverse music. probably the 16 bit era with cd quality music is my sweet spot. too bad the sega cd blew ass.
It really doesn't.
I at least appreciate that it looks like what it is: a toy.
The NES feels like a toy despite trying to not look like one.
The simpler design of the famicom actually feels much more robust, so I think I prefer it for that alone, but I would never say it looks cool.
my non shitter reply is that it comes down to the glossy red and offwhite color scheme which makes it visually stand out and would look better against the older crt's and entertainment stands/dressers it would rest on. the red lends a better contrast against wood. the slate grey of the nes, while maybe more "robust" looking, ends up looking as boring as a stationary advertisement
There is a controller port on the front you can use. Any game that doesn't have support for a 3rd player will default that to be a second player 1 controller
For me, it's the AV Famicom. Controller cords on the Famicom are too short, and being able to use original NES controllers is great. It's honestly the best version of the NES if you don't want to do any modding to it because it has composite out (like the original NES) and you don't have to deal with bending pins (like the NES top loader).
The FamiCom has pretty controllers, but I like the (visual) design of the NES very much, it doesn't really look like any other console of the period, and it has a nice color scheme.
I'm a zoomer and this POS was my first console, it didn't read cartridges half the time even when we cleaned them so me and my Dad took it apart and replaced the pin connector.
Finally I could play the hand-me-down library of the classics.
Yeah, that's the one weak point.
Deciding that they wanted the NES to not look anything like the Atari 2600 as to win over confidence in spooked retailers, they wanted it to look and feel very different.
One of those points was that instead of just having a normal port on the top like FamiCom, or the 2600, they did a setup which handled a bit like a VHS or Beta player. So you open a lid, slide in the cartridge, then press it down, and then the machine will read it.
This works, but the one big downside is that the tilting elevator thing makes it very easy for someone to put lateral pressure on the pin connectors, even just subtly, and over a long period of time this can cause the pins to deform and struggle to read properly.
If you know about this, you can be conscious in handling the carts carefully, but most people didn't, so getting some trouble with carts reading over a long period of time is common. Thankfully, this problem is easy to fix once it happens.
I'm a zoomer and this POS was my first console, it didn't read cartridges half the time even when we cleaned them so me and my Dad took it apart and replaced the pin connector.
Finally I could play the hand-me-down library of the classics.
I wish my dad had done that. He took it apart, but got tired of dicking around so he said he would buy me a new one if we threw that one out. I hate moron young me for allowing that.
>Why?
I ask this every day. Even the highest regarded games are janky and barely holding together. I think it mostly caught on due to aggressive marketing, and retains it's status because of millennial nostalgia.
Console gaming didn't really get good until the PC Engine and Mega Drive.
You need to play something other than Zelda and Metroid. Just because they grew into huge iconic Nintendo franchises, doesn't mean they're the best NES games.
to this day NES platformers have the best physics, control/feedback and level design, and not only the top 10 games, you can grab a random NES platformer and chances are it plays from good to great, it was the rule
after the NES platformers became too samey/floaty with exceptions
Yeah NES was the peak of platforming (well I guess the other 3rd gen consoles too but since they were largely overshadowed my point remains the same). 3D era has too much going on, 360 degree angles and all around so the platforming has to be dumbed down, and while the 16 bit platformers were still fun they too had a little too much going on graphics-wise, in that they were less abstract and had more depth/shading/etc. blurring lines more which meant it was harder to tell where one object ended and the next began, again requiring the platforming to be dumbed down.
I was born in 87 and we got an NES toaster shortly thereafter, so it was pretty much in my life for as long as I can remember. So much so that it was basically cemented in my mind as the "default video game console" and everything was built on its back. I didn't even know that consoles existed before it until I was much older.
In my mind the NES and its games will always be like "1st edition" pokemon cards.
Holy shit the amount of grandstanding contrarianism ITT rofllll
The SNES is literally everything the NES is but 100% objectively superior and if you try to argue it's only because you feel offended by reality not agreeing with your garbage 80's nostalgia.
It's simple really, while SNES was superior in both graphics and sound, and I mean that objectively, I can't say the same for the software, because that would be a lot more subjective. NES and SNES, to me at least, have very different design concepts for their software, while NES came from an era in which arcades dominated the industry's direction and all, SNES came from a transitional period, for a more narrative and presentation focused style, in a lot of ways it feels more like a 2D PS1 really, I find the Mega Drive/Genesis to be a lot closer to the NES than the NES' actual successor, due to its library and direction... and that's why some here do prefer it over SNES, while the latter offered a lot more save systems and a software with larger scope, NES had more arcade style difficulty to it.
I just got my too loader av famicon from Japan. Such a cool little machine, surprised how small it is as the original nes was released by Mattel in New Zealand and usually came bundled with duck hunt and smb. However I am shocked because I was using my Japanese super famicon and I tried composite cables for the first time and no color. Nintendo were so cheap they couldn't even put a proper oscillator in their machines like Sega did so it has a tunable chroma signal instead operated by trim pot. So now I have to wait for a special screwdriver set to open it up and readjust the signal, but God alone knows what kids in the 90's were supposed to do? Was it like an Apple product you took to the Store to get fixed? I remember seeing kids throwing out playstations as the laser spindle died, these days it is a cheap part from Ali Express but we didn't have access to markets like that back then.
I agree with this, but I'll add that the NES library simply has more variety. With every console generation development costs and time rose. Less risk means more room to experiment. But also in the case of the NES, the medium was still in a very formative stage. For instance there's a visual novel on the NES with a dungeon crawler style maze, and I'm pretty sure that's never been done again. Too much genre solidification by the 16-bit era. Then there's the idea that, as others have mentioned, many SNES games were simply NES games with a new coat of paint. Even as a kid I didn't feel wowed by SMW compared to SM3. More content was cool, but the extra colors were totally superfluous.
True, it felt like the NES had everything in it, while SNES felt a lot more compact and selective.
Thanks! I try to get the best version of each console and local NES's were very expensive so I might as well get the best version of the top loader. I used to own a few as a kid, our neighbors gave us their old one and I knew a guy that worked at an electronics center that would give me broken ones. Though sadly after my dad moved house a lot of his stuff was thrown out when he was sick, including a lot of stuff I'd left in the attic. Usually I try to get the first edition of consoles, the fat versions but I'll make an exception for the NES as we never really had top loaders growing up.
I do think the Gamecube and the NES are the two best Nintendo consoles. I don't really understand the Wii or like it's controllers at all nor the Nintendo 64. I also want the Super Famicon for some exclusives but I'm not impressed with it's build quality after having to tune the color signal. Though luckily I found a cheap bit set to open the thing up. The original NES just used normal Philips screws.
This is the toaster version we had growing up and was released locally. Mattel distributed it around Australia and New Zealand. Sadly we didn't have many games for it as most people had moved on to Playstation at the time.
I agree with this, but I'll add that the NES library simply has more variety. With every console generation development costs and time rose. Less risk means more room to experiment. But also in the case of the NES, the medium was still in a very formative stage. For instance there's a visual novel on the NES with a dungeon crawler style maze, and I'm pretty sure that's never been done again. Too much genre solidification by the 16-bit era. Then there's the idea that, as others have mentioned, many SNES games were simply NES games with a new coat of paint. Even as a kid I didn't feel wowed by SMW compared to SM3. More content was cool, but the extra colors were totally superfluous.
Holy shit the amount of grandstanding contrarianism ITT rofllll
The SNES is literally everything the NES is but 100% objectively superior and if you try to argue it's only because you feel offended by reality not agreeing with your garbage 80's nostalgia.
except for several franchises having worse games on the SNES (like Mario, for one), and several big NES developers like Sunsoft more or less shitting the bed during that generation, sure. It's "better in every way".
I'm fully willing to accept they're both very good. I do not get SNES supremacists. Why are you like that? Why would you not want to enjoy more games?
nah, this is the moronic argument. "newer thing better" maybe if the SNES was backwards compatible and was literally just "NES, but better," but it's not. it's an entirely different console with an entirely different library.
The hardware is objectively more powerful.
The games are not objectively superior.
The games are, at best, nicer looking versions of things you could already have done on NES, or, at worst, things that are more focused on presentation at the cost of any sort of attempt at meaningful innovations in gameplay and challenge.
Castlevania is a much better game than Super Castlevania 4.
As penalty for getting baited you're requested to watch all longplays of said games on 0.5x speed. Please enjoy:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSk84JLGd4
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1GOgdJbJcs
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpCERf-3MDs
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O71__ki3rYw
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epMr7wsAB1k
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't do requests.
5 months ago
Anonymous
From now on you do.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Gamers don't watch longplays
5 months ago
Anonymous
We all know at this point, it's the only way to get people on this board to actually look at a game, because they're sure not playing them.
5 months ago
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Never watched a longplay in my life. Have no idea how people even do it. Just play the fricking game.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You skip through the video to get a look at the game. Same reason people used to buy magazines.
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They're used either as guides or to refresh your memory of a game you used to play
Hot take: NES era Rare were more interesting.
On the SNEs they pretty much just made DKC, and then made DKC two more times, and a Mortal Kombat clone.
NES has Snake Rattle & Roll, and Wizards & Warriors.
That image is fake. He took an excellent condition NES, smeared it with shit, so he can make a video "restoring" it. This is most "restoration" channels.
im talking about super famicom vs famicom. it was a big downgrade in every genre except perhaps strategy rpgs and sim games. all the support centralized on the famicom boom was put into multiple consoles (pc engine, megadrive, later ps1 saturn in 1994) and other markets. original famicom is a once in a lifetime kind of console where they had complete dominance. and by virtue of that received all relevant software with footholds in every genre. sfc just cant compete. if youre a soigay who only plays nintendo + typical 3rd parties like square/capcom than sure i can see why you might prefer super nintendo. once you stretch beyond the limits youll see that nes has significantly greater depth.
I didn't get my own NES till late 90s, though my cousins had one i remembered them playing.
I got it at a yardsale for 10 dollars and it had, from my memory, Mario/Duck hunt, mario 3, robocop, star wars, iron tank, silver surfer, road blasters, gradius and ghosts n goblins. Suffice to say, my ass got filtered hard. But something clicked even after getting my dick stomped. I grabbed a couple more games at a flea market, adventure island, skull & crossbones, whomp em, bucky o hare. Shit is hard, but im learning. Find power blade, duck tales, pac mania and punchout at thrift store. Oh shit, these games are not just hard, they are fun. Theres some kind of magic here newer games don't have. The smell of contact cleaner my brain has forever associated with the nes, get an erection whenever i smell it. Its a good system.
>Mario 1-3 >Mega Man 1-6 >Wario Woods >Star Tropic 1-2 >Dig Dug >Mike Tyson Punch-Out! >Double Dragon >TMNT >Metroid >Zelda >Bomberman >Battletoads >Bram Stoker’s Dracula >Castlevania >Friday the 13th >The Karate Kid >Metal Gear >Earthbound >Final Fantasy >Gauntlet >Joe & Mac
And a ton of other games. It’s a great console with great games! Duck Hunt was always fun with the gun. Most of the great franchises of today started here.
TMNT frustrated the hell out of me as a kid. The water level pwned all my players but one usually. Never could beat it. Gave me 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' vibes. Now that game was truly cursed beyond belief. Rabbit tailing you, no weapons but your fist, and occasionally a crowbar if you happened to find one.
People focus a little too much on the Nintendo games on the NES, and a few well loved classics like Megaman, I guess because of ignorance, but that should not be considered all that the NES is.
Look at some of these late stage NES games, and how much more impressive they look than Zelda.
remember that one schizo anon who was constantly seething about "cutscenes" saying super metroid has way too many cutscenes?
that's the type of person whose favorite console is the NES. They cant stand any kind of game design or complexity other than basic arcade stuff
Here's another problem I had with the SNES library: puzzle games! I love puzzle games. It's in my top three favorite genres, switching places depending on my mood. Look at this travesty. Solomon's Key 2 alone justifies my preference for the NES. Specifically did not include Tetris clones in this, deliberately, btw.
muh childhood, and games made by Japs who knew what they were doing, paired with hardware that lent itself to a classic aesthetic and sound. Sorry Jimmy Savile Krimbo Krisp Kwest didn't stick in the collective conscience quite the same way.
Pretty much every great NES RPG has a better version somewhere else, except Mother. SNES still has some of the best versions of its classic JRPGs, even if they do get remakes/remasters they're not always an improvement because SNES games look so nice as is
No they dont, all the snes added was gay ass filters aka "graphics", bunch of bs filler "gameplay" and mode 7. The music and sound was the only thing the snes semi improved on, thats it. Blow it out ur ass.
>all they improved is graphics, gameplay, sound and music
You forgot the story, that also improved in SNES JRPGs. So I guess it's only everything that improved
the graphics werent improved, they made everything gay ass filters, the "gameplay" they added was filler like stupid ass cutscenes. Story? go read a book u dumb Black person, but first learn to read. Stupid fricking monkey.
For me, it’s the fact new games get translated every year, plus new romhacks and homebrew: some bad, some decent, some good, some great, but it’s like getting a few new releases a year. I treat it like when I was a kid and only got a few games a year.
I sometimes like to think about if video games had developed in low-technology but long-forecasting environments, like painting. I like to imagine we'd have had 3500 years of NES titles.
I'm not a zoomer
Well I am a zoomer and it is my favorite.
I grew up with it (well sort of, I grew up with famiclones), there's a lot of old arcade shit as well as some more advanced games like Mario, Zelda and others, NES chiptune music is cool, it's plug and play like
said, some of the games can be very challenging so it's very satisfying when you actually beat them, etc.
>games without ANY bullshit
>just lets you play
>best zelda, best mario, good metroid, best dragon quest, goemon kino, best battletoads, best mega man, best kirby, best punch-out, good castlevania, kino licensed games like nemo, chip'n'dale and talespin, tetris, crystalis
>etc. etc.
it's a mystery
>file
Unironically way too hard
>ANY bullshit
I don't know about that, Anon. Teleport/Door mazes are bullshit, and I know Renegade and Gargoyle's Quest 2 have them.
>“I don't think of games as products, but rather as works of art.
Holy shit, what a frickin hack. No wonder they fired him.
That's Super Famicom.
Too much slowdowns and story bullshit.
They're very different. SNES has the best RPGs of all time, but NES destroys it in every other category, including sports and racing
Super Metroid > Metroid. Won't argue about Zelda, 1 is as good as LttP for me. My favorite Dragon Quest is 3, but I prefer the SNES version. The best Goemon games are on SNES. Mega Man, yeah NES wins here, Castlevania too. They are pretty close for me but overall I prefer SNES as a console.
I really hate Super Metroid, I've tried it many times and each time I get bored in 5 minutes. Too slow, bad physics. Map exploration just takes away from the action. I like Hagane, but that's still a far cry from Ninja Gaiden or Shinobi. I guess the SNES is good if you like first party games and exploration adventure.
>but I prefer the SNES version.
That's not a version that's a remaster, doesn't count as SNES game
>but NES destroys it in every other category, including sports and racing
lol
>posts the worst Top Gear game
lol indeed
Dont pretend 2 is better.
the Zoomer Famicom had a different philosophy
>i am blind to game design
>i am too dumb for more complex games
>mario, zelda, the list goes on.....
A mystery indeed.
As if it wasn't hugely obvious this was a spedX quasi-bong thread. You're right, though. I'd trade my whole childhood for Chuckie Egg, Jetset Willy, and [autistic sim obsoleted by any sim newer than it]
>autistic sim obsoleted by any sim newer than it
Isn't that basically an identical argument to virtually all racing and sports games?
>games without ANY bullshit
>posts (japanese) Eurojank SHMUP
The bullshit in NES games is nonstandard controls. I was just playing Blaster Master, how does pushing down to go in to doors make any sense?
Best post. Lots of great games, easy to emulate, no nonsense fun.
Master system was a better console
With a weaker library
Both are correct, NES was 10x more important due to its superb library, the Master System had impressive hardware and some of its titles look almost 16-Bit like, same for the Game Gear, but the library's not as strong, despite still being good in its own way, with a ton of classics too.
With no games
It's not my favorite, that has to be either the SNES or GBA, but there's lots of fun stuff on the NES.
>games without ANY bullshit
Oh come on, you know THAT is not true. The NES has stacks of classics, but it had a lot of garbage too. You'd just skip the garbage today, but it was a bit less easy to know back then.
>best zelda
Besides A Link To The Past, I honestly think that the best 2D Zeldas were Link's Awakening and then the Oracle games.
>best mario
Best 2D Mario, sure, but Super Mario 64 was fricking sweet.
>kino licensed games like nemo, chip'n'dale and talespin, tetris, crystalis
True, but back to that point about bullshit, there were also quite a lot of very bad license games too.
>Oh come on, you know THAT is not true. The NES has stacks of classics, but it had a lot of garbage too. You'd just skip the garbage today, but it was a bit less easy to know back then.
I don't think he meant BS as in quality, anon. It was more like there's no BS filler or padding, it's just pure gameplay and straight to the point without wasting the player's time, that's all.
Soulful music and art, proper amount of challenge, game design that doesn't insult me and take me for a moron
yet you post here where everyone insults you and calls you moron. good game and i love nes too though
This game looks beautiful. Extremely impressive for the limitations.
>game design that doesn't insult me and take me for a moron
That was a thing on the NES. Not in the same way, but it was there.
I'd say something about you having a chip on your shoulder, but I'm too mesmerized by those graphics.
The Genesis is really good too. Late 80s to early 2000s was a magical time for videogames in general, you had all kinds of amazing console, handheld, computer, and arcade titles around.
Of course if you're a moron yourself, you might not think modern game design is insulting, on the contrary, you'd think it's made for you
This game. THIS GAME is so much fun and has a good ending. Fuk those little slime things that you can’t crouch and hit though.
I tried this, but I realized it's an exploration game and I dropped it. I thought it was level based from all the photos I've seen.
The library.
Games with sufficient complexity and charming music and graphics, but not yet totally dumbed down for the masses as happened during the SNES era.
>simple, fun games
>pretty much an endless amount of them
>appealing visual and sound aesthetic (probably what I would associate with the word "video games" more than any other system)
its a library of 1,500 games based off no bullshit two buttons schemes and creative function before standardization killed ingenuity. not hard to figure out if you actually sit down with the larger library and play. not afraid of actual discovery and mystery being a greater piece of the puzzle than sheer content. these games are fun and easy to get into without holding your hand begging you to experience them.
As someone who's favorite console is the Mega Drive/Genesis, but also adores the NES, I can see why many have it as their favorite, in lots of ways I love it for the same reasons I love most of the late 80's/early 90's SEGA stuff... you'd have these video games that, back then, felt HUGE, they felt like these mountains to climb, these incredible tasks to do, since we keep losing and spend months to actually beat one of them... and most of them are 15 minutes to 45 minutes long... it's because they have this arcade philosophy to them, of pure gameplay and keeping the experience condensed and fun, there's isn't any padding or bloat. I actually got an NES after my Mega Drive/Genesis, a Famiclone to be more exact, but I felt right at home in it, it was fun.
One more thing about this style of video game that I still find so appealing, is how you keep getting beat by this condensed 30 minute long adventure, you spend months getting a little further each time you replay, until you genuinely MASTER it, because you HAVE to, and then when you finally beat it, you can finish this title that felt impossible like it's nothing, in a few minutes.
the nes had some cool shit on it, but i couldn't wait for something that was capable of better animations and more diverse music. probably the 16 bit era with cd quality music is my sweet spot. too bad the sega cd blew ass.
2 buttons
Any more than 3 buttons is nerd shit
So SEGA Genesis is the cut-off point, correct?
Systems came out after genesis that had less than 4 button controllers. 3do, cdi, game boy advanced...
GBA had 4 buttons.
Any more than 3 buttons is nerd shit
Sega: A,B,C,Start: 4 buttons.
NES: A,B,Select,Start: 4 buttons.
Sega also had the Mode button.
Hi, australia-kun.
Please do not shove NES in your ass, even if it's your favorite console.
Famicom*
this looks so much cooler it's unreal
It really doesn't.
I at least appreciate that it looks like what it is: a toy.
The NES feels like a toy despite trying to not look like one.
The simpler design of the famicom actually feels much more robust, so I think I prefer it for that alone, but I would never say it looks cool.
>It really doesn't.
*imo
fixed for you anon 🙂
If you can already distinguish an opinion from fact, why do you need everyone to waste time writing disclaimers?
my non shitter reply is that it comes down to the glossy red and offwhite color scheme which makes it visually stand out and would look better against the older crt's and entertainment stands/dressers it would rest on. the red lends a better contrast against wood. the slate grey of the nes, while maybe more "robust" looking, ends up looking as boring as a stationary advertisement
Famicom may look cute but it has no controller ports. I imagine a pair scissors have ‘killed’ many Famicoms.
There is a controller port on the front you can use. Any game that doesn't have support for a 3rd player will default that to be a second player 1 controller
Certain games won't work with the port on the front. Battletoads is one.
>Certain games won't work with the port on the front. Battletoads is one.
It just has to be the special snowflake, doesn’t it?
Most western developed games probably don't work with it because they were designed for the NES rather than the Famicom.
I'm sure you imagine a lot of insanely stupid things. Like the famicom not having a controller port right there on the front of the console.
For me, it's the AV Famicom. Controller cords on the Famicom are too short, and being able to use original NES controllers is great. It's honestly the best version of the NES if you don't want to do any modding to it because it has composite out (like the original NES) and you don't have to deal with bending pins (like the NES top loader).
What if you want to play 72-pin carts?
they make cartridge adapters, my guy
Wasn't sure if they made ones for 60-pin consoles. I knew you could get adapters to play 60-pin carts on 72-pin consoles.
AV top loader is boss.
I actually prefer the look of the american nes.
The FamiCom has pretty controllers, but I like the (visual) design of the NES very much, it doesn't really look like any other console of the period, and it has a nice color scheme.
Yeah, that's the one weak point.
Deciding that they wanted the NES to not look anything like the Atari 2600 as to win over confidence in spooked retailers, they wanted it to look and feel very different.
One of those points was that instead of just having a normal port on the top like FamiCom, or the 2600, they did a setup which handled a bit like a VHS or Beta player. So you open a lid, slide in the cartridge, then press it down, and then the machine will read it.
This works, but the one big downside is that the tilting elevator thing makes it very easy for someone to put lateral pressure on the pin connectors, even just subtly, and over a long period of time this can cause the pins to deform and struggle to read properly.
If you know about this, you can be conscious in handling the carts carefully, but most people didn't, so getting some trouble with carts reading over a long period of time is common. Thankfully, this problem is easy to fix once it happens.
>it has a nice color scheme.
Yes ... I too am a fan of sunfaded primer gray ...
I'm a zoomer and this POS was my first console, it didn't read cartridges half the time even when we cleaned them so me and my Dad took it apart and replaced the pin connector.
Finally I could play the hand-me-down library of the classics.
I wish my dad had done that. He took it apart, but got tired of dicking around so he said he would buy me a new one if we threw that one out. I hate moron young me for allowing that.
Because they grew up with it
>Why?
I ask this every day. Even the highest regarded games are janky and barely holding together. I think it mostly caught on due to aggressive marketing, and retains it's status because of millennial nostalgia.
Console gaming didn't really get good until the PC Engine and Mega Drive.
>"Mega Drive"
>Britbong detected, opinion discarded
The world doesn't revolve about Burgerland, mutt-o.
You need to play something other than Zelda and Metroid. Just because they grew into huge iconic Nintendo franchises, doesn't mean they're the best NES games.
>Console gaming didn't really get good until the PC Engine and Mega Drive.
Very good take.
samegay
Underage take, frankly.
>b-b-but I'm 28!
Underage take...
to this day NES platformers have the best physics, control/feedback and level design, and not only the top 10 games, you can grab a random NES platformer and chances are it plays from good to great, it was the rule
after the NES platformers became too samey/floaty with exceptions
Yeah NES was the peak of platforming (well I guess the other 3rd gen consoles too but since they were largely overshadowed my point remains the same). 3D era has too much going on, 360 degree angles and all around so the platforming has to be dumbed down, and while the 16 bit platformers were still fun they too had a little too much going on graphics-wise, in that they were less abstract and had more depth/shading/etc. blurring lines more which meant it was harder to tell where one object ended and the next began, again requiring the platforming to be dumbed down.
proper games.
my nostalgia happens to line up with a really good console with good content beyond the ones I grew up with.
I was born in 87 and we got an NES toaster shortly thereafter, so it was pretty much in my life for as long as I can remember. So much so that it was basically cemented in my mind as the "default video game console" and everything was built on its back. I didn't even know that consoles existed before it until I was much older.
In my mind the NES and its games will always be like "1st edition" pokemon cards.
The NES has more than 300 real games on its library
And how many fake ones?
how many did Tengen make?
31 year old zoomer here, why would NES be your favorite system when SNES exists?
Because the SNES is fricking trash and the only people who like it are the nostalgia-baited millennials who were small children at the time.
You can literally say the same thing about genxers and NES
Tell me more about your gay slasher movies
It's simple really, while SNES was superior in both graphics and sound, and I mean that objectively, I can't say the same for the software, because that would be a lot more subjective. NES and SNES, to me at least, have very different design concepts for their software, while NES came from an era in which arcades dominated the industry's direction and all, SNES came from a transitional period, for a more narrative and presentation focused style, in a lot of ways it feels more like a 2D PS1 really, I find the Mega Drive/Genesis to be a lot closer to the NES than the NES' actual successor, due to its library and direction... and that's why some here do prefer it over SNES, while the latter offered a lot more save systems and a software with larger scope, NES had more arcade style difficulty to it.
I just got my too loader av famicon from Japan. Such a cool little machine, surprised how small it is as the original nes was released by Mattel in New Zealand and usually came bundled with duck hunt and smb. However I am shocked because I was using my Japanese super famicon and I tried composite cables for the first time and no color. Nintendo were so cheap they couldn't even put a proper oscillator in their machines like Sega did so it has a tunable chroma signal instead operated by trim pot. So now I have to wait for a special screwdriver set to open it up and readjust the signal, but God alone knows what kids in the 90's were supposed to do? Was it like an Apple product you took to the Store to get fixed? I remember seeing kids throwing out playstations as the laser spindle died, these days it is a cheap part from Ali Express but we didn't have access to markets like that back then.
Incredible pickup, anon!
True, it felt like the NES had everything in it, while SNES felt a lot more compact and selective.
Thanks! I try to get the best version of each console and local NES's were very expensive so I might as well get the best version of the top loader. I used to own a few as a kid, our neighbors gave us their old one and I knew a guy that worked at an electronics center that would give me broken ones. Though sadly after my dad moved house a lot of his stuff was thrown out when he was sick, including a lot of stuff I'd left in the attic. Usually I try to get the first edition of consoles, the fat versions but I'll make an exception for the NES as we never really had top loaders growing up.
I do think the Gamecube and the NES are the two best Nintendo consoles. I don't really understand the Wii or like it's controllers at all nor the Nintendo 64. I also want the Super Famicon for some exclusives but I'm not impressed with it's build quality after having to tune the color signal. Though luckily I found a cheap bit set to open the thing up. The original NES just used normal Philips screws.
This is the toaster version we had growing up and was released locally. Mattel distributed it around Australia and New Zealand. Sadly we didn't have many games for it as most people had moved on to Playstation at the time.
I agree with this, but I'll add that the NES library simply has more variety. With every console generation development costs and time rose. Less risk means more room to experiment. But also in the case of the NES, the medium was still in a very formative stage. For instance there's a visual novel on the NES with a dungeon crawler style maze, and I'm pretty sure that's never been done again. Too much genre solidification by the 16-bit era. Then there's the idea that, as others have mentioned, many SNES games were simply NES games with a new coat of paint. Even as a kid I didn't feel wowed by SMW compared to SM3. More content was cool, but the extra colors were totally superfluous.
I dont know how to find good nes stuff. People like avgn nespunk and Mike matei have kind of ruined the nes for me
Has the best games.
NES is not my favorite, but even by SNES, game design had already been made easier and more cinematic and idiot-proof.
Excellent, Japanese aesthetics, sound and fun, no frills gaming with just enough depth to keep things interesting, but not obstructive.
It's very soulful and has some fun games to boot. Plus, it's arguably one of the most important consoles ever made.
its one of the only important ones. the rest barely matter.
Holy shit the amount of grandstanding contrarianism ITT rofllll
The SNES is literally everything the NES is but 100% objectively superior and if you try to argue it's only because you feel offended by reality not agreeing with your garbage 80's nostalgia.
the sfc cant even run action games properly anon. go back to Ganker if you need someone to agree with you.
except for several franchises having worse games on the SNES (like Mario, for one), and several big NES developers like Sunsoft more or less shitting the bed during that generation, sure. It's "better in every way".
I'm fully willing to accept they're both very good. I do not get SNES supremacists. Why are you like that? Why would you not want to enjoy more games?
nah, this is the moronic argument. "newer thing better" maybe if the SNES was backwards compatible and was literally just "NES, but better," but it's not. it's an entirely different console with an entirely different library.
The hardware is objectively more powerful.
The games are not objectively superior.
The games are, at best, nicer looking versions of things you could already have done on NES, or, at worst, things that are more focused on presentation at the cost of any sort of attempt at meaningful innovations in gameplay and challenge.
Castlevania is a much better game than Super Castlevania 4.
It has the best games. I thought that answer would be obvious.
Name 5.
Mega Man
Mega Man 2
Mega Man 3
Mega Man 4
Super Mario Bros
Each of these lists has one good game in it
Castlevania
Solar Jetman
Bionic Commando
Fire N' Ice
Faxanadu
Dr.Jekyll & Mr.Hyde
Dragon's Lair
Ghostbusters
Mr.Gimmick
Super Pitfall
nta but those games are all supposed to be shit other than Mr. Gimmick.
>those games are all supposed to be shit other than Mr. Gimmick
why yes, the bait got me. so what?
As penalty for getting baited you're requested to watch all longplays of said games on 0.5x speed. Please enjoy:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSk84JLGd4
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1GOgdJbJcs
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpCERf-3MDs
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O71__ki3rYw
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epMr7wsAB1k
I don't do requests.
From now on you do.
Gamers don't watch longplays
We all know at this point, it's the only way to get people on this board to actually look at a game, because they're sure not playing them.
Never watched a longplay in my life. Have no idea how people even do it. Just play the fricking game.
You skip through the video to get a look at the game. Same reason people used to buy magazines.
They're used either as guides or to refresh your memory of a game you used to play
Bionic Commando
Blaster Master
Super Mario Bros 3
Mother aka Earthbound Beginnings
Tetris
just off the dome
Zanac
Castlevania
Metroid
Sweet Home
The Legend Of Zelda
-Adventure Island 2
-Final Fantasy
-Ninja Gaiden
-Punch-Out
-Whomp 'Em
Again, one good game o
The Magic of Scheherazade (probably the best RPG on the nes)
Dracula's Curse
Super Mario Bros. 3
Dig Dug II
Mappy Land
Life Force
Contra
Snake Rattle N' Roll
Battletoads
Batman
Contra
Super C
Ninja Gaiden
Punch Out
The legend of zelda
Hot take: NES era Rare were more interesting.
On the SNEs they pretty much just made DKC, and then made DKC two more times, and a Mortal Kombat clone.
NES has Snake Rattle & Roll, and Wizards & Warriors.
That image is fake. He took an excellent condition NES, smeared it with shit, so he can make a video "restoring" it. This is most "restoration" channels.
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super famicom is so shit in comparison. its actually a complete joke when you put the library side by side.
Doesn't it have the same library plus the Japan only games? I only had a bootleg (Dendy) that ran everything.
im talking about super famicom vs famicom. it was a big downgrade in every genre except perhaps strategy rpgs and sim games. all the support centralized on the famicom boom was put into multiple consoles (pc engine, megadrive, later ps1 saturn in 1994) and other markets. original famicom is a once in a lifetime kind of console where they had complete dominance. and by virtue of that received all relevant software with footholds in every genre. sfc just cant compete. if youre a soigay who only plays nintendo + typical 3rd parties like square/capcom than sure i can see why you might prefer super nintendo. once you stretch beyond the limits youll see that nes has significantly greater depth.
Oh yeah that's me being moronic. The worst thing about SNES for me is the slowdown. Some action games really suffer from it.
I didn't get my own NES till late 90s, though my cousins had one i remembered them playing.
I got it at a yardsale for 10 dollars and it had, from my memory, Mario/Duck hunt, mario 3, robocop, star wars, iron tank, silver surfer, road blasters, gradius and ghosts n goblins. Suffice to say, my ass got filtered hard. But something clicked even after getting my dick stomped. I grabbed a couple more games at a flea market, adventure island, skull & crossbones, whomp em, bucky o hare. Shit is hard, but im learning. Find power blade, duck tales, pac mania and punchout at thrift store. Oh shit, these games are not just hard, they are fun. Theres some kind of magic here newer games don't have. The smell of contact cleaner my brain has forever associated with the nes, get an erection whenever i smell it. Its a good system.
>Mario 1-3
>Mega Man 1-6
>Wario Woods
>Star Tropic 1-2
>Dig Dug
>Mike Tyson Punch-Out!
>Double Dragon
>TMNT
>Metroid
>Zelda
>Bomberman
>Battletoads
>Bram Stoker’s Dracula
>Castlevania
>Friday the 13th
>The Karate Kid
>Metal Gear
>Earthbound
>Final Fantasy
>Gauntlet
>Joe & Mac
And a ton of other games. It’s a great console with great games! Duck Hunt was always fun with the gun. Most of the great franchises of today started here.
I don't think there's a single game on that list that's actually worth playing on the NES.
TMNT frustrated the hell out of me as a kid. The water level pwned all my players but one usually. Never could beat it. Gave me 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' vibes. Now that game was truly cursed beyond belief. Rabbit tailing you, no weapons but your fist, and occasionally a crowbar if you happened to find one.
Everyone was legally obligated to make games for it including Sega.
People focus a little too much on the Nintendo games on the NES, and a few well loved classics like Megaman, I guess because of ignorance, but that should not be considered all that the NES is.
Look at some of these late stage NES games, and how much more impressive they look than Zelda.
More classics than any other console.
remember that one schizo anon who was constantly seething about "cutscenes" saying super metroid has way too many cutscenes?
that's the type of person whose favorite console is the NES. They cant stand any kind of game design or complexity other than basic arcade stuff
>cutscenes are game design
really?
Cause the Nintendo is the only machine with Cheetahmen 2 and Bubble Bath Babes and Yo! Noid.
fricking Tony
Here's another problem I had with the SNES library: puzzle games! I love puzzle games. It's in my top three favorite genres, switching places depending on my mood. Look at this travesty. Solomon's Key 2 alone justifies my preference for the NES. Specifically did not include Tetris clones in this, deliberately, btw.
A fellow fire n ice lover.
muh childhood, and games made by Japs who knew what they were doing, paired with hardware that lent itself to a classic aesthetic and sound. Sorry Jimmy Savile Krimbo Krisp Kwest didn't stick in the collective conscience quite the same way.
The rpgs are fire on god. The nes really just has a lot of great games of every kind
Pretty much every great NES RPG has a better version somewhere else, except Mother. SNES still has some of the best versions of its classic JRPGs, even if they do get remakes/remasters they're not always an improvement because SNES games look so nice as is
No they dont, all the snes added was gay ass filters aka "graphics", bunch of bs filler "gameplay" and mode 7. The music and sound was the only thing the snes semi improved on, thats it. Blow it out ur ass.
>all they improved is graphics, gameplay, sound and music
You forgot the story, that also improved in SNES JRPGs. So I guess it's only everything that improved
the graphics werent improved, they made everything gay ass filters, the "gameplay" they added was filler like stupid ass cutscenes. Story? go read a book u dumb Black person, but first learn to read. Stupid fricking monkey.
Limitation breeds creativity, but it's also not too limited to the point of being archaic or incomprehensible like a lot of Atari-era stuff.
For me, it’s the fact new games get translated every year, plus new romhacks and homebrew: some bad, some decent, some good, some great, but it’s like getting a few new releases a year. I treat it like when I was a kid and only got a few games a year.
It literally saved gaming. As a gamer you are obligated to love the Jesus Christ of our culture.
Just the console part, arcades and PC gaming were moving on without it just fine
In that light it would have been better if console gaming just failed then, so now I hate it even more
It's because they never played the CHAD Mega Drive, or else their favorite console would be that instead.
KING
SNES blows it out of the water. Only contrarian morons say otherwise
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I sometimes like to think about if video games had developed in low-technology but long-forecasting environments, like painting. I like to imagine we'd have had 3500 years of NES titles.
The NES tech itself kept evolving. If the NES lasted twice as long you'd have mappers that allows some crazy shit