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makes sense considering person is the worst series atlus ever made
When I saw she didn’t have a trophy I figured she was kept faithful to her original counterpart as a troll boss similar to the demi-fiend.
yeah I know you don't NEED to beat her but now that she is the only source of omnipotent orb I will forever feel incomplete.
The Portable PS4 port had trophies for beating both Elizabeth and Margaret.
Fricking Elizabeth's armpits?
That's the best superboss.
Haru is at least a Norwood 3
LMFAO
What is this?
some stores in japan let you place a sticker on a character when you buy goods of the series
so its a popularity pool from some store
>Akihiko that unpopular
how
I don't think normal people who think he's cool are the type to buy figurines
Explain Ken then
people into 13 year old boys aren't normal
women
>not self insert
>not girl
kys ken
my husband ken,,,love him,,
If Junpei has a million fans, then I'm one of them.
If Junpei has one fan, then I'm THAT ONE.
If Junpei has no fans, that means I'm dead.
>t. chidori
Aigischads can't stop winning
Ken has 17 too many
Is Persona the only game series where the main characters are always more popular than the waifus/husbandos?
my sister have no idea of persona ,he just saw the mc during an all-out attack cutscene and started simping for him,so yeah...
How is she worse than Demifiend? She has roughly the same rules except she doesn't summon helpers endlessly.
SMT V Demifiend, or DDS Demifiend?
DDS
SMT V can be killed in 2 turns
She's one of the few puzzle superbosses where you know every trick and instantly win or you don't. I'm glad after the PS2 megaten games it mostly went back to bosses that are really strong with maybe one or two mechanics to make it harder.
i just want her lock my face into her pit and hold me there until I die
All Atlus superbosses are the worst superboss because they're all just a strict script you have to follow and if you screw up any part of it the boss hits your whole party with unavoidable instant death. There's no room for strategy or problem solving, it's literally just following a predetermined script for 20 minutes.
That only applies to Elizabeth. Every other Persona and SMT game doesn't do that, you can kill Margaret or Lucifer by simply just playing well and have tons of different, viable strategies.
The Devil Survivor 2 superbosses are the best ones because they're all gimmicky but well-designed and fair.
Do I need armor of light to beat her? That's a lot of material to grind holy shit.
Also I never got resist fire card for some reason.
You don't need this many Personas to take her down I think. You can easily do it with Chi You, Yurlungur, Saki Mitama and one Persona that repels all phys. Since you have Telos, it should be even easier.
If you don't want to grind for Armor of Light, get the Hallowed Plate. It has Enduring Soul, meaning you can slap Endure on your Personas instead. Endure and Enduring Soul can proc separately so long as they each come from separate sources, giving you an extra layer of insurance.
Shoes of Light are nice but Shoes of Bane might be more practical since it immunizes you to insta-kill without negating Light and Dark altogether.
>Persona that repels all phys
Doesn't she cast an instakill megidolan if any of your demons have repel/block etc?
You want that. It helps you halve the length of the fight. You get her down to just about 10k health, carefully keeping track of how much damage you're doing to her. Remember to bring some items like magatamas to get her as close to 9999 as possible without actually reaching 9999. Once you have everything set up, switch to the Persona that repels all phys and wait for her to proc it. Once she does, she'll use her second turn to Megidolaon you, which you'll Endure, but this ends her turn and gives you a chance to counter. If you did it right, the countered phys attack should get her down to below 9999, so you can finish her off with Armageddon.
Thanks, will keep that in mind.
Elizabeth has a scripted 9999 Megidolaon after going down to 13k, and then she starts spamming 9999 Megidolaons if she isn't below 10k within 3-4 turns. I feel like getting the precise damage to "just above 10k" and "waiting for a physical attack to reflect" is too luck-based and could end up triggering the timer.
On Hard or Merciless, you don't have to be as careful. Because Elizabeth's damage is amped up in that mode, and because reflected damage is calculated entirely off of the attacker's St stat, she'll do enough damage to herself that it'll pass the check. It's unironically harder to beat her on Normal.
Obviously, the easiest way to beat her is on Peaceful where you can pretty much two-shot her. One-shot if you use DLC.
>Counter is a new trigger that sets off her 9999 Megidolaon spam
Oh come on
Saki Mitama should have these skills, right? I just need to put Resist Phys instead of Diarama, grind it to lv 99, and get stats to MAX?
That's one down, 3 to go. Jesus frick, making a setup against Liz will take more than maxing Sphere Grid in FFX, I don't know if it's even worth it.
>inb4 oh no why you showed your name
Like I care...
Just use skill cards until she gets to 99 of everything sister
Take High Counter off Telos and replace it with Unshaken Will. Counter is a new trigger that sets off her 9999 Megidolaon spam. You can keep Enduring Soul and equip an Endure armor, or vice versa like
said. You need both skills because you need to tank 2 mandatory 9999 and live.
Generally, you'll just want to stick to Telos for the whole fight unless you know her exact attack pattern and can avoid ever nulling/reflecting/absorbing any attack and triggering her Megidalaon spam.
If it's like the FES/Portable battle, you only need 3 Personae to switch between to beat her. It's basically a timed pattern battle. She does two attacks and changes, you switch to a null element of the one she switches to. Repeat until she does Megidoloan and then full heal the next turn quickly to repeat the cycle until you got her within Armageddon range to 9,999 her to death before SHE does it to you and beats you.
>you switch to a null element of the one she switches to.
In both FES and Reload, if you null whatever element she uses, she busts out a 9999 megidoloan and spams it until you're dead permanently.
You have to actually NOT null anything she attacks you with.
liz and toriumi best girls
She's short
having supersex with the superboss
Ikuchan_kaoru + her on novelai is perfection
Try armpit focus or foot focus too
Post examples.
I'm in bed. >_<
i'll do it.
Based based based don't forget chromatic aberration and shiny skin and sweat and quality tags off the top of my head ^w^
Post more pls
only this once cuz i was in the middle of piling up on Etna porn
ai is very good at drawing armpits, is the ai becoming one of us?
SEX WITH ELIZABETH
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Post her bare soles so i can fap to her.
I will after a nap
enjoy anon
Different anon, but thank you...
trying to get something better
Extremely based. These are great, thanks
enjoy broski
one last try after this one
last one for now. i swear i used to be able to get better ones.
That's not demifiend
I just finished this last night and it's one of the best remakes I played. I thought a P3 remake was a dumb idea (and it's still a little egregious) but they totally nailed it
Are you me ? Same here
Also
>No compendium carry over on merciless
What's the point ?
>What's the point ?
Merciless, no mercy in any form allowed. Although I agree it's pretty stupid
Genuinely pulled a basedboy open mouth face at the title screen change. Kino
Literally me
It's not. Presentation not good, balance is wrong and too much stuff is excluded.
Either this is literally (you) or you're a pathetic homosexual who can't form his own opinion. The balance is bad, I will agree, but all of the fricking persona games have shit balancing.
>balance
Maybe it's just different folks, but I personally like grinding, making OP demons/Persona's, and slaughtering the game when it comes to SMT/Persona. Do people not find joy in that?
>but all of the fricking persona games have shit balancing.
Wrong. Just because they tend to be easier than SMT doesn't mean the balance is bad. You are just a bitter butthole.
>too much stuff is excluded.
Literally 2 things, and one of them is being introduced as a DLC which is better than how it was introduced back in the day.
>waahhh i'm scared of being criticized on the interneeet
What a whiny gay lmao
I love how FESgays will pretend fatigue actually mattered after the first block and most of the bosses weren't piss easy and only difficult because the AI was moronic
I remember never getting fatigued after the second third full moon.
but she's hot and has nice armpits and that's enough for me.
Aigis is the best girl because she has no feet and footgays are the worst
i would like to lick the sweat from her armpits after she is done beating you party (i dont know if persona has parties im never gonna play those games)
It does, but the game forces you to solo her
ugh that sounds god awful so what the entire fight is just you two slaping each other until one of you dies? no strategies or anything? wait now that i think about it, is this a turn based rpg or an action rpg?
>no strategies or anything?
The game is basically Pokemon but with JoJo stands.
You select a monster and take on it's attributes, stats, and skills. Only your HP and SP come from the main character's levels
The main character is the only one with the ability to get more than just the one he starts out with.
In other words, you can basically go into the fight with a full team of Pokemon you switch between, but because they share your HP you're dead if you get knocked out once.
ah got it, would you say is more or less complex than pokemon?
Main game is definitely harder than pokemon, but pokemon's competitive scene is a different thing entirely
Less, but most things are less complex than Pokemon, because Pokemon is the deep void of turn-based RPGs. If you want it to be.
I'd say more, but I never played high level Pokemon and hear it's very autistic so I can't really judge
Either way I'd say the game Persona is spun off from, Shin Megami Tensei, is more complex than Persona. That's also more of a traditional monster catching game, since you fight demons and have ability to convince them to join your side.
Persona 3-5 kinda suck because only the main character can fuse demons.
Black person the entire GAME is you and the enemies slapping each other until one of you dies. Liz is shit because it's the opposite its TOO much strategy where you have to follow some arcane bullshit dance to be able to win. Christ I hate puzzle bosses
Why did they hype up Hayase as God's gift to track just for him to another boring social link
>worst superboss Atlus has ever made
>ctrl+f
>not a single mention of Satan
classic purse owner thread
So what does carry over on Merciless? Just playtime?
And costumes lol ....... All your 100 hours fusing personas, gone
yukari chan cute in her tight hot rubber suit!
It's insane how the P3 cast wears the Thieves costumes better than the Thieves themselves
My cute izzy is such a kriger
What a lewd robot
any gifters here?
>can't disable the mini-map
Stop doing this stupid shit Atlus, I don't need 20% of the screen covered with pointless UI.
its always funny to me when there is a mini map in a game where the maps are just stright lines, i dont know if that is the case with these games but your comment reminded me of that
In the Daily Life segments you're going back and forth between the same exact areas for over 100 hours and Port Island isn't large at all. I simply don't understand why the game needs a mini-map in the first place.
>Room goes dark
>Still have mini map
Good job Fatlus
>Maxed social stats
>Nighttime
Ok so what I'm supposed to just go to Tartarus every night now...?
Play games to up persona skills
Hang out with your dorm mates
Use the computer
Go to bed (P5 nostalgia)
Grind tartarus
Take koro for a walk, grow veggies, do whatever homie
How do you go for the armpit when having sex? Do you ask her?
Sex with Caroline and Justine
Lewd
>Pokemon discussion
This just makes me think that head to head Persona or SMT would be really fun so long as you can't Null/Drain/Repel all your weaknesses away
Pikachu Jack pls
What happens in Port Island station?
Flower shops
Movie theater
Interior alligator
Gun Jesus
I think some slink and side quests?
There is not even a single event there after the game ended
some of shinjiro's events
film festival
flower shop
that time yukari almost gets you and junpei murdered
>Be me
>Been stuck in September 4 on Tartarus for like 2 weeks
>I don't want to continue the story because having played FES I know what will happen in the upcoming weeks
>I just want to grind forever and ever killing Shadows in our little snow globe of joy.
>But at the same time farming Tartarus has become stale so I'll go back to the story and soon enough I will lose Shinjiro
Playing Persona (not 4 or 5 though) is suffering.
How am I supposed to cope ..........
bring Shinji back with cheat engi- I mean magic
What did she mean by this
She is obviously a fan of ''Mars Attacks'' movie.
There is something odd in your picture. I cant exactly pin point what is this.
>all the cats you saved from tartarus are there
Based
Wtf there's cats you can save? Do they show up with the people or on different dates? Do you get notified of them?
You get notified inside tartarus. They give you twilight fragments when saved
*casually makes your life sad until the day you die*
Best social link.
I just want Aigis gf
>playing Persona 5 Royal right after Reload
>do the stealth ambush intro
>still go full moron and dash into the enemy I see trying to first strike them
>YOU'RE SURROUNDED
I'm a special kind of moronic
yuko, fuuka and mitsuru>>>rest of the bawds
Yjk.
Koromaru is pure and would never frick a thot
Koromaru is for me
Anyone else think the bullying these dudes have to go through so the protag can look cooler in comparison is a bit much? It's probably my least favorite trope in the franchise. So much of it is way too overplayed to just be comedic.
Junpei and Yosuke? No, they deserve getting shat on.
Ryuji though? Yeah, the bullying he had to endure was a bit much.
Picrel is memed a lot, but to me it's always been a genuinely disgusting scene.
>dude nearly dies for his friends
>turns out he lived after all
>they repay his "sacrifice" by beating the shit outta him
Maybe there's some cultural context for Japanese people, but I fail to see how this is "funny"
I think I kinda get the logic. They're in the middle of mourning for a dead person and said person comes back completely fine, 100% without injuries. Maybe in the scene that started this cliche, the crying person is trying to hide their embarassment by throwing a bit of a tantrum, but it keeps evolving to eventually having the mourning person beat up the other person.
That's understandable, but I think that only really works if the mourners had some attraction, not necessarily romantic or sexual, to him, and while I'm sure they did, the story sure as hell did a bad job of showing that by constantly making him the butt of jokes. I think the closest we got was when Makoto chose to take Ryuji with her during the mob boss's arc.
Imagine after beating Nyx and the whole gang watches Tartarus transform back into a normal school, and then MC walks out of it and back to them, but instead of them crying tears of joy, they angrily beat him up and walk away.
It's worse when you consider how getting ganged up on is how his leg got permanently fricked up before the start of the game.
Ryuji was made for Ann
Ryuji didn't have it THAT bad. It was really just Mona that constantly belittled him.
Yosuke brought it mostly on himself.
They're just your typical dumb male teenager. But man Ryuji is just a Lidl Junpei it's ridiculous. Actually all party members in 5 suck (minus Haru and Akechi if you count him).
>Actually all party members in 5 suck
kind of ironic considering they went full pandering anime tropes but they all ended up unlikeable
I thought the broke artist gay was kind of funny and entertaining
When does Junpei get builled? Bantering with Yukari, his good friend, isn't bullying.
Everyone ribs on him, downplays him, even the protag has a lot of dialogue options just to dunk on him. At least in the first few months. Some of it is warranted but a lot of it is kinda annoying, people don't really give him credit when he pulls through and sometimes I just wanna give my bro credit and the game won't let me.
His case isn't really similar to the other two though because everyone respects him after Chidori dies. I know it's forbidden to bring up but I don't remember a single joke made at his expense from the Answer.
There was no humor in the answer because everyone was always gloomy and sad. It fricking sucks.
The best part was the soundtrack. 3/31, Interstice of Time, Between Doors...
Junpei actually gets his girl and matures in his own game, that's more than can be said about the others (and even P3MC on the first point)
Junpei suffers but gets through it, Yosuke should suffer more and I couldn't care for Ryuji if I tried
I don't know, in my opinion Yosuke is the only competent person on the Investigation team besides Naoto and Yu
That's a very low fricking bar considering the Investigation Team doesn't really do anything except wait for every murder of the month to happen.
The only one competent is Chie because she somehow gets these brilliant revelations out of the blue that she just blabs out.
The only "brilliant revelation" I remember from Chie is "hey doesn't this fog kinda remind you of the TV world fog?" near the end of the game. I've never heard her say anything less obvious than that.
The characters that analyze enemies that constantly talk about how big the protagonists dick is after killing enemies is way more annoying. But the persistent cheesy flattery is the case only in Persona 4 and 5.
They get the short end of the stick in being the outlet for the player's horniness.
Basically they know you want to hit on the girls, you want to call out how hot they are, you want to get excited for a beach episode, but you can't shamelessly openly do it so they make the punching bag do it instead. That way you get your cake and eat it too.
Junpei being the most mature cast member alongside the fricking dog of all things is one of the reasons I defend the answer.
did you stay loyal to one girl?
>Fuuka
Based
Feels weird not doing harem in 3 but I'll do it for Fuuk
I couldn't. Mitsuru succubus level is too high. I'm weak.
I stayed loyal to Yukari but then January fricking happened and it was over for me. Doing NG+ right now, no woman is allowed to touch me other than Aigis. I'm only thinking of maybe romancing Mitsuru because I don't wanna waste the Christmas event, might as well see how it goes since Aigis is not avaliable.
Fuuka vs Haru?
They both win my dick and heart
this is one of my favorite songs since i first heard it in the second opening of P3 vanilla full of spoilers
Who's da ma- OH NO NO NO
>Pool size: 3,000
>Player size: Over one million
Japanese players have never liked Junpei
He's one of those characters that's much of a dick for Japanese culture to approve of.
How many Japanese players are versus Gaijin players?
Japs once again having the worst taste known to man
China has bad taste, who knew
>Yukari best girl
>bad taste
Correct
>Asian popularity
>Persona self-insert MC always places first
Legitimately why do they always vote for the MC.
Asian people are slaves with no life of their own.
junpei always was and always will be the worst character in the series. most people never level him up
He's like Aegis but without Matarukaja.
he's the only one in 3 with a compelling character arc
Seems pretty accurate tbdesu.
>Yukari that high
I swear Japan has the most basic b***h tastes
>will doom the whole planet just to see you again
>basic b***h
moron.
>dumb b***h acts like a selfish dumb b***h
Yeah she's a basic woman
moron
Meanwhile
You just know
>The fricking DOG beats Yukari
Yukitan bros...?
Koro-chan should honestly be higher.
>Goodest boy before Hoes
>midsuru aka miss zero personality that high
It's shite
> SEA
ew
>First two places are just the zero personality self inserts
Personagays are so funny
Aigis and the stupid dog that high each time. The most out of place characters are some of the most popular.
Aigis makes sense as she is the prototype (heh) for all the party members just dick sucking the protagonist 24/7 that the future games adopt
well aigis had otaku appeal and koro is just a meme option
>Yukari
Based. She's the best character in the game.
Lovekari.
>Self-Insert with no personality is number 1 throughout
Are Persona games this dire when it comes to their writing
It's a power fantasy bro and P3 protag is literally me
No Japanese people just think they themselves are the main character so they must be the best
>Behold the worst superboss Atlus has ever made.
No
>how am I- GAEA RAGE
>Have immuni-GAEA RAGE
>Take too long GAEA RAGE
>Take all out the demons GAEA RAGE
>only way to survive one of his attacks is to get RNG'd inflicted by his sleep spell
In V is not that much different.
damn I miss dds so much, what a fricking nice game. wish it would get the reload treatment only DDS1 tho
I'd just like a PC port tbh.
Hopefully they won't frick it up like Nocturne's
so did Kamoshida rape every girl but Ann? what did they even do when they were together then? watch movies?
The only shown case of rape was with Ann's friend (who is dumb enough to give up her chastity for a starting position in a high-school team).
but the olympics
High-school volleyball team.
>set the game to easy
>frick her shit up
>set the game back to hard
I live in fear of the day that my carefully constructed tower of lies collapses and kills me
anon you can lie to other but cant lie to yourself. have you never played any of the persona 4?
This is what I just did. For some reason she didn't 9999 megidoloan me as soon as I got her to half the first time so I could survive one with Enduring Soul the second time I got her past half, by which point I had an Armageddon loaded up.
elizabeth quests are fun and you get items
social links and linked episodes are important because it boosts your personas level
you need to raise your stats to do some SLs
thats it
how can you say that when demifiend exists?
>finished Reloaded
>just hanging out in the threads to post about Yukari
how do you fill the void?
Play FES' the answer or boot up Persona 4. I'm going to probably boot up SMT 4 myself though since I want to some classic SMT and I still haven't beaten that one yet
based, thinking about starting nocturne again myself. reload was great, but god i just need to play a game where i can just do turn based combat without interruption
I started up Persona 5 but the Lover arcana is probably the worst in the franchise...
i spent the whole afternoon-evening yesterday browsing pixiv. I literally can't cope
sauce
I'm almost done with my ng+, prolly will move to strange journey after this
I've started playing Persona 5, suffice to say it's not really filling the same void but it's at least something.
I still can't believe they didn't properly change the fight for the remake. It's not a real battle, just a chore you have to go through and it's more boring and annoying than anything else.
The super bosses from the other games are far better and I hoped Atlus had learned their lesson and improved her.
>and I hoped Atlus had learned their lesson
>wow my classmate almost killed herself
>better take a picture of it for twitter
Literally the most realistic as frick moment in Persona 5
Most realistic persona teenage behaviour
>Implying you wouldn't be doing the same.
Literal NPCs
That is sadly realistic, specially for 2016. It was happening years before that really.
Dont act like gore forums werent a thing since dinosaurs
I thought the Japanese were supposed to be civilized
Why can't humanity just be good, bros?
The Japanese have always been barbaric and sadistic people. They have lived in civil war since forever. They burned and eat and sacrifice their own with no remorse.
Japs are literal cannibal eaters
Just finished this last night. I knew what was coming, but man that last animated scene and the new main menu along with the ost just broke me, anons
her dress looks so attractive
lmao
lmaon
lmaodyne
No wonder women player usually have as strong opinion on Junpei.
>has endure
>gets one shot anyway
He gets shot twice
I like how this is still one of those old school RPGs under the hood so guns are exactly as effective as the plot demands outside of battle and do 0 damage in battles
In the new scene takaya actually used his gun to kill a shadow
Guns have always seemed to have anti-shadow/demon properties somehow.
>Takaya clearing a border floor
as long as the bullets have anti shadow properties it should work, the weapons ingame are also special even though the police ones cant possibly be but dont question that
No, I don't think the bullets themselves need anything special. We're going back to P1 here, but as far as I remember, none of the cast need to do or procure bullets in a special way for them to be effective against demons. And in 5, you're basically shooting rubber bullets. But if 5 is anything to go by, as long as the shadow/demon thinks it's in danger and you believe hard enough, your bullets will hurt them.
>Technological progress scaring away myths, legends and the literal things-that-go-bump-in-the-night
Pottery
fuuka <3
Love
>"Christmas"
lmfao
at least make an effort
which persona would you frick
My wife...
i hope SMT5:V doesn't replace old lilith with new lilith like how persona got rid of old hecate
Alice
Nekomata
Fairy
Lillith kinda scares me so I'll pass on that.
Alice
Angel
Magdeline, though it feels a little too sacrilegious.
>Magdeline, though it feels a little too sacrilegious.
>But not Angel.
I can't exactly explain why, though at a guess it might have something to do with Angel's similarity to angelic Digimon designs like Angewomon.
And the other one is the Virgin Mary, so it's just wrong.
god damn is the Persona 5 battle system so smooth, everything just moves so fast even compared to Reload
Yeah it's pretty slick. Make sure to abuse the shit out of Baton Pass and Technical hits.
Nuke and Psi damage are busted if you get an ailment on something.
>everything just moves so fast even compared to Reload
See I feel the opposite, P5 felt like it likes to linger on shit too long (post battle screen for example) while P3load seems to zoom by
It's funny because I thought it's slow as shit compared to golden
P3/4/5 are all slow.
Mitsuru pit sex
breastsuru pit sex
Mitsuru pit sex
breastsuru pit sex
Mitsuru pit sex
breastsuru pit sex
Sauce?
Can't be the worst when she's Elizabest
>Use the Satanael DLC persona
>He doesn't fricking use his gun for the sinful shell attack animation.
>Just clenches his fist
holy shit that's so goddamn lazy
gave me flashbacks of ff7 when sephiroth is in your party
Is there a guide for her on hard mode that doesn't rely on the high counter trick?
Its either that or pray the RNG doesn't frick you over (it will eventually)
the entire high counter meme is RNG, if she gets countered on her first turn instead of her second it's game over.
Technically true but its still the most reliable way to beat without going full autism and counting turns and hp
Get her down to 13000, and she'll go for an instant kill, which you should tank with Enduring Soul. From there, get her down to 10000 within 3 turns or she'll kill you with another instant kill. Alternatively, set up a giant hit with Charge or Concentrate, and buffs and debuffs, and just bring her down from 13000 and take her down, or as close to as you can, to 10000. She'll heal, then get her down to around 10500. You'll need to get her below 10000 in one hit from there, while also equipping an Endure because she'll immediately use her instant kill. Finish off with Armageddon.
Wait, what? She should only go for a nuke if her turn count is up or if you break the rules of the fight.
Are you talking about the demake?
My bad. Should've known when anon mentioned High Counter. But doesn't she still nuke you every few turns that you need to tank with Infinity, or am I remembering wrong?
Fusion spells in Reload don't work the same way, so you don't have access to Infinity at hand (it's not in Reload to begin with).
Elizabeth fight instead is changed so that she has 2 mandatory 9999 Megidolaon if you fight correctly. One when first reaching 13k, then another if she reaches 10k the second time (she will heal back to full the first time she hits 10k). Otherwise, she spams them on breaking any rules. Her regular attack pattern still has Masakado casting Megidolaon, but this is normal damage one compared to Pixie's rule break or phase transition Megidolaon.
It just mostly depends on how much autism you are willing to spend fusing the perfect Telos for the fight, having the correct equipment, and potentially also having certain items saved up.
>Concentrate
>(severe attack spell of your choice)
>Enduring Soul
>Unshaken Will
>(spell) Boost
>(spell) Amp
>Magic Ability (Mastery if you're autistic enough for fusion mutations)
>free slot: Single-Target Boost, Heat Riser, Debilitate
Equipment should have the following effects: Firm Stance, Endure, Null Dark Instakill (not with Null Dark)
At that point, the fight is straightforward. Concentrate, cast your damage spell, Heat Riser or Debilitate if she's currently resisting that element. Heal with the massive amount of healing items that you've probably hoarded up to this point. The only tricky part is damage racing her down to 10k after she casts Megidolaon at 13k. You have a few turns to rebuff Concentrate and others, but depending on her resist type it could go wrong. After that, it's just repeat normal pattern until you get her down to 10k again, tank a hit with Endure, then Armageddon.
Not playing the demake, but thanks.
Why are you even in this thread grandpa lol
He's just a kid looking for attention, ignore him.
thought it was a Persona 3 thread
We don't play AFK shovelware here.
You don’t need unshaken will, just buy the accessory that nulls ailments. Firm stance is better on that slot. Magic ability is on lucifers blade you also don’t need that.
That works too. I was just lazy and didn't have enough rubies for the blade, and already had unshaken will and not firm stance easily passed to Telos.
>Vorpal Blade
>Arms Master
>Crit Amp
>Apt Pupil
>Slash Amp
>Enduring Soul
>Null Phys
>Repel Light
Bros, my Thanatos Machine is ready to frick shit up
Man I just can't not have dark skills on Thanatos so I'm split.
>Brave Blade
>Charge
>Maeigaon
>Slash Amp+Boost
>Dark Amp+Boost
>Null light
I know I should commit but I can't go full one way or the other lol.
SEX
FUUKA SEX
SEX WITH FUUKA
FLUFFY HAIR FUUKA SEX
SEX SEX FUUKA SEX SEX LOVE MAKING BABY MAKING SEX WITH FUUKA
ONE MORE GODDESS REJECTED
Is she harder now than FES and portable?
Yeah even Philemon was more fun of a fight
Be nice to Hua Po
>FESbabies malding already
Uh oh
thats very nice
Wrapped between Mitsuru's thighs giving her cunnilingus as she grabs you by the hair and pulls you closer to her cortch before giving her a satisfying squirting orgasm
Aigis was very underwhelming for me. Is this normal?
She's overrated, honestly
Doesn't help she's a dev favourite
If you didn't develop feelings for her after her social link and the ending, I don't know what to tell ya anon.
Yeah shes a cute robot that learns to feel, whatever, but im talking about how she is in battle dude
shes the only competent member in FES tbh, every battle was just everyone being useless missing and casting pointless status ailments and then aigis blasting the shadow in the face with a glock.
Oh, okay, so it's a FES thing. In reload I really never found myself blown away by her. Mitsuru, Junpei and Koromaru on the other hand...
I will finish this game today after spending a week or so procrastinating and slowly do fusions
only 3 more eliabeth fusion requests
and then, well i still only have 71% so I guess i still have much more to make so maybe not today after all
But I'm only level 75 so theres a few i cant make anyway
maybe i should just forget about it and finish first and do it all on ng+
She was merely okay for me, up until mitsuru learned mind charge and the rest learned their various resistance break moves. Now yeah she's probably better than them because they waste moves on that while she just blasts them (though at this stage many enemies have str/null pierce/slash anyway)
They didnt use status moves before with the exception of mitsuru occasionally casting tentarafoo and marin karin.
on FES
Oh, you're talking gameplay? She's a great late game unit - a lot of useful teamwide buffs and strong physical attacks that are pretty universal.
The buffing utility was pretty useful, I just think her firepower is kind of meh. Maybe I should shove a bunch of incenses up her ass so she can actually crit like Junpei or the MC does
You are right her damage is pretty mediocre, I'm in November and her damage has fallen off HARD but I still use her for her auto buff rifle and buff skills.
Junpei is a crit machine, that's all he does, but Aigis has higher utility while not being crit-orientered like him. In late game, buffs start playing a bigger role while weaknesses don't (because you will always be able to cover all of them anyway with your precision-crafted Personas), so Aigis becomes more useful as you're getting closer to the end.
Just have both Junpei and Aigis on your team, problem solved.
Junpei was buffed a shit load in this game so he sorta hits higher highs than Aigis now who is physical powerhouse but also is split between buffing and healing. She's more of a jack of all trades type character but still a good one
It's mostly just you, yeah.
It's not normal, but my experience was the same. I was indifferent to her during the Journey and actually really hated her during the Answer. To me she only became cool with Arena and I started to genuinely like her.
JUST GIVE ME THE FRICKING LOVERS ARCANA CARD YOU PIECE OF SHIT TARTARUS
Here's Temperance. Best I can do.
I unlocked temperance the day after I finished leveling my goddamn social stats, what a useless ass card. But in all fairness I genuinely hate leveling social stats in persona so at least they tried.
Koromaru is really good but I don't like using him because I always cringe when I remember there is a grown ass man making all those sounds
cute bread girl!
So aside from costing HP, is bloody charge just a one turn charge + rebellion effect or is it a stronger multiplier?
I don't think it's a stronger multiplier.
rate the romances on a scale of 1-10
>yukari
>fuuka
>yuko
>chihiro
>maiko
>mitsuru
>aigis
>5
>3
>2
>2
>???
>10
>0
what about ken(fes)
Yukari >>> Aegis >> Fuuka > Chihiro > Mitsuru > Yuko
Toriumi at the top of the list
10 (the most story relevant)
7
>>yuko
4
8
5
6
9
>Yukari
10/10. Rejecting her is so wrong and it really feels like the developers wanted you to end up with her first and foremost.
>fuuka
1/10. It's just trying out cooking for an extremely boring character who has the faintest ties to the themes of the game
>yuko
7/10. She is cute.
>chihiro
5/10 Not much to say really. That stealing money thing was out of nowhere
>maiko
Not a pedophile
>mitsuru
2/10 I don't get what people like about her
>aigis
10/10 if she actually had sex organs. 9/10 elsewise.
>10/10 if she actually had sex organs
And yet her bedroom scene is by far the lewdest one in the game. You can't have sex with Aigis, but you sure make love to her.
>Persona 4 remake
how would you improve P4?
Remove Marie
Add FeMC because it makes way more sense the way P4 is set up
To elaborate on this, FeMC could be Izanami and the villain could be Izanagi. Plot could change very slightly to suit but frick it, I'd like it.
make it so that you can't control 3/4ths of your party and also make it so that teddie randomly kicks certain party members out of the tv world every 10 floors or so.
Why is he the only protagonist that gets pussy? Tatsuya literally has a way worse fate than this guy but he has to go back to his hellscape with 0 pussy.
Rush mode is slow as breasts now wtf atlus
>2024
>I am.... forgotten
I kind of wish she was in the game as a social link if they weren't going to let her be playable
>he doesn't know
>FeMC after getting hit with the moron stick
Something looks really fricked up about this hair.
URAMESHI
holy shit
I just want to see her drawn reload style, its all i ask
Marge?
>trannies recreate their female avatar from Portable
>literally just trace a man's face and call it a woman
Very self-aware.
Kotone will save us.
average Ganker shitposter
what the door doin
What the frick happened to Chidori in the entire month they lost their memories?
it's really not very well explained, just like what exactly happened after they remembered door kun and how they coped. if anything this junpei's reaction confirms that chidori not surviving is canon
>if anything this junpei's reaction confirms that chidori not surviving is canon
Wait what? Was that supposed to be ambigious
Junpei not remembering her doesn't somehow make her revival noncanon, no.
This conversation only occurs if you save her though.
In the last scene with Chidori, Mitsuru asks her what she's going to do once she's out of the hospital. Chidori says it's none of your business.
Junpei met her and watched her die during the Dark Hour, so he has no memory of her anymore. She's alive, but he doesn't have any way of knowing that.
I mean, I would assume that Mitsuru wouldn't just let Chidori go after she woke up, considering how Chidori probably has absolutely no family or any kind of support. But then they fight Nyx not that long after, and presumably everyone loses their memories, so then Chidori would become this completely unknown patient that nobody would know how she even got there.
Time to shine and I'm down to ride
I'm gonna drive until the break of dawn, wilding out
I'm on a mission grinding out
Whatever it is I gotta do
Riding out until the day I meet you, I'm riding out
I look up in the sky (Sky)
Asking lotta, "Why?" (Why?)
But never let it phase me, I'm keeping good vibes
When I'm on the road, I watch out for all surprises
What it provides us
Good and bad but nothing unties us
Behold: the best superpits Atlus has ever made
Has Atlus ever made a good boss in the first place
>Dude just spam Debuffs/Buffs and hope to crit for a damage sponge instead of using every mechanic available to you
So engaging
Still can't get over how overly cruel this game is to its cast.
>Hey guys, I'm not really dead!
>3/5: jk, I actually waited until you guys remember all the hardships we went through together, all the events that helped us get closer to one another, and THEN die without saying goodbye, on the day we're supposed to graduate together, just to make the pain worse for ya!
Him dying still makes no fricking sense. Should have just made it more ambigious instead of having basically everyone say how bad the MC looks before he "closed his eyes"
Exactly. An ambiguous ending might have worked just fine. Even if a little less heavy.
Makoto literally gave it all he fricking had to live until they remembered. Props to him, but could you imagine if it took them one more day to remember? kek
But really if anything, I have always wanted to see what immediately followed that rooftop scene
I can't remember if this was mentioned in The Answer but I think they just thought he was sleeping at first but then noticed he wasn't breathing, brought him to the hospital and was declared dead.
That's a good example of how The Answer kinda shits all over P3, in my opinion. Like, you remember that beautiful and heartfelt final scene with Aigis and the MC? Absolute peak of the entire game. Well, now you can imagine her 30 seconds later, looking down, checking his pulse, and going "awww shit".
And to make things even more ridiculous, he's not actually dead. He's stuck in literal Hell keeping the door to Nyx's room shut so that Erebus doesn't visit her and restart P3's ending. And Elizabeth, the absolute trooper that she is, is actually perpetually fighting Erebus and trying to figure out how to keep him down forever to rescue the MC.
N-N-No but don't you understand! LE THEMES! You can't outrun death except that time during the last battle when you saved humanity from certain and very literal death! That doesn't count!
That's just Hashino's writing. He wanted the MC to die because that was the mood he was going for - everybody dies, and in that sense, there can't really be a good ending, we can only delay the inevitable. He didn't consider that the players wouldn't be thrilled with that ending, which only dawned on him after the reception of The Answer/Episode Aigis, and Atlus has been trying to quietly backpedal ever since.
But everybody does die what is the point of getting assblasted over something that's true lol
The players wanted the characters to be happy for longer than a month. There's no actual reason for the MC to die right then and there, you could just end it on the line saying "perhaps we'll die someday, and that's all right", without turning everything into a miseryfest that continues to this day.
kys takaya stop domposting
Speaking of this gay, what happened to Takaya? He pops up when Nyx appears, but then he just disappears afterwards.
You will find out in the $30 The Answer DLC
He was already dying when Nyx reveals herself, and the gravity waves are so strong SEES can't move. It probably killed Takaya by making him shit his guts out.
Looks like he dies right here.
?t=2045
He did the same thing in Reload, but I assumed it was just him passing out like everyone else.
>Well, now you can imagine her 30 seconds later, looking down, checking his pulse, and going "awww shit".
They say they carried him back to his room and he died in his sleep later.
>he's not actually dead.
Based on fricking what, that his soul still exists chained to a door instead of it being wiped from existence upon death? You still hear Akinari and Shinji's voices at the end after they die, are they actually alive too?
>Based on fricking what, that his soul still exists chained to a door instead of it being wiped from existence upon death?
Yes. His soul is not part of the collective unconscious in the Sea of Souls. He's kinda like Teddie in that regard, except that he's sleeping. I think it's dumb and they should've just given him some sort of an afterlife ending if they were so hellbent on killing him (that would've pleased the fans just fine), but that's what we're stuck with.
>His soul is not part of the collective unconscious in the Sea of Souls.
Where do you think the Great Seal is? It's in the Sea of Souls. The only difference between him and other dead characters is that his soul is stuck to a door and can't be at rest or reincarnate like normal.
>He's kinda like Teddie in that regard, except that he's sleeping.
So his physical body died and was buried and his soul is dormant and asleep in the CU, and that's different from death somehow? Teddie is different because he actually has a body that's still alive and breathing.
Teddie had no body initially, he created one himself.
>The only difference between him and other dead characters is that his soul is stuck to a door and can't be at rest or reincarnate like normal.
Yes, that's the thing. His soul is stuck, and Elizabeth wants to save him. What happens to him after Elizabeth does that (and she has to do it at some point, or you just have a plot thread dangling with no resolution) - that we do not know. Maybe she just lets him pass on? Or maybe she has something more entertaining in mind? The fans would certainly want the latter, but for now, it's just fanfiction.
Lmao yeah. The problem is everyone looked too happy in the last cutscene. It was kind of ridiculous considering what follows. Honestly, it was pretty amusing all around but kinda depressing. If that was the intended emotion then good job, Atlus, I guess?
>I have always wanted to see what immediately followed that rooftop scene
Probably went like this
>Aigis realizing what happened and starts breaking down crying
>Everyone finally makes it to the roof and finds her
>Lots of wailing and crying from the girls
>Akihiko probably punches a wall
>Junpei starts swearing
>Mitsuru gets it together long enough to inform the faculty what happens
>Even more chaos once Door's school friends find out
>All and all a really fricking dogshit day for everyone involved
The Answer answers this. They all thought he was sleeping until next day where he died. DUH
Weird that it would take a full day for them to realize that he was dead, but hey, its canon so I get it. You'd think you would realize Makoto was dead when hes still sleeping 6-8 hours later and has probably shit and pissed himself like most dead people do
>Haha, he shit himself! That's our Door, right guys?
>...
>Uh oh.
So a really fricking dogshit day for everyone involved happened the next day.
>The Answer answers this.
The Answer is a story we don't need to see.
No but it's pretty nice anyway.
I would rather spent my time with a more interesting story. Like a Strega escaping from the lab DLC, or Elizabeth's Adventures.
who tf are we?
the answer is great, frick off
According to this thread there is no ambiguity in this game so it is totally okay to write and release garbage since it's canon and that's all that matters
>According to this thread there is no ambiguity in this game
There isn't. If you mean subtlety then yet, the game is subtle about it.
The Answer was good and tasteful and a great parallel to Orpheus's descent into the underworld in order to find his dead lover and return without her. No amount of b***hing will change the truth.
Who was the dead lover in this case? It cant be ryoji right? cuz then itd be gay.
>Who was the dead lover in this case?
Door was. Aigis played the role of Orpheus
>Who was the dead lover in this case?
Aigis inherits Orpheus. She is Orpheus, descending into the labyrinth under the dorm to retrieve her lost love (MC). She faced off against a three headed guardian of hell (the three arena battles/three choices) she looked back (reflected on the past) and watched him disappear before her eyes.
They put a positive spin on this.
ah right, i forgot aigis inherited orpheus that does make a bunch of sense
There is nothing subtle about a brick hammer being thrown against the wall. The Answer just gives you very dry answers to everything
Apparently it was too subtle if some moron wants to believe Door was just sleeping lol
Would those morons include you since you're such a big fan of the moron content killing all the subtlety
Bro it wasn’t subtle. He fricking died. Even in the original.
>The Answer was good and tasteful
Outside the questionable plot decisions in it's story, the gameplay in The Answer is widely considered to be awful.
I don't really care about lemmings.
>Outside the questionable plot decisions in it's story
Questionable plot decisions such as...?
It was just SEES having their duel after Makoto's death. A story showing how each of them dealt with it and the ways in which his sacrifice marked them and made them feel.
There aren't any "questionable plot decisions". It's a piece of content that serves to further develop SEES as a group of people who fight shadows.
>the gameplay in The Answer is widely considered to be awful.
The gameplay is exactly the same one you see in The Journey during any Tartarus exploration and boss battle, dingus.
>The gameplay is exactly the same one you see in The Journey during any Tartarus exploration and boss battle, dingus.
NTA, but not having a compendium makes a huge difference.
>Oh no, I need to fuse the Personas I get by exploring the different parts of the Abyss of Time
A good difference. It actually makes you play the game and do things with the things that you get by playing said game, like any good game would have you do.
Thanks Philemon
no prob
I have a funny idea of what happened in the final battle where, while acquiring the world persona, a fusion accident occurred and, instead of great seal consuming all of your sp, Makoto got the poor man's version. Being the apathetic mf he was, he said frick it, fusing it again would be too much of a hassle so roll with it, lmao
Do enemies with a status ailment not get hit with a critical anymore after getting hit with the right spell?
It doesn't have that system from P5 if that's what you mean but a lot of status make enemy more vulnerable to being crit.
Thats kind of lame, p5r actually made status fun to use
Shock status was kinda shit to use though
>1/31
Welp, after nearly 45 Hours, I am ready to tackle down Nyx on Merciless. Messed up the SL grind for Telos because I've prioritized Social Stats too much:
>Empress fell one day shy of rank 10
>Fortune Rank 4
>Never started Lovers
And because I've forgot to do the last Elizabeth Date alongside grinding out the ultimate Personas for my Party before the day of the arrival, I'll run in with covered Weaknesses but no ultimate Weapons.
This is definitely going to last a long while.
>45 hours
>Already at Nyx
Why do people love Kotone so much?
I'm asking myself the same about the main character
Every single time Aigis has entered Orgia mode, she's gotten hit with a status effect and it just ends. I've never seen her enter overheat.
I didn't even know she can be status'd in orgia mode, she always dodges for me when she is
i am not familiar with this human term, "status effect"
i like that you can see the river in this version. this part and the school rooftop are the two environments i think fes did a lot better just because the water is part of the scene.
Shit translation the original japanese says ahn~
Does your weapon attack factor into your physical skills at all or is there seriously no reason for me to ever switch off this ridiculous looking Cleaver?
Physical skills no but it does affect your all out attack damage
>All out attack
No thanks I will just pass turn to (me) again
>Play Persona 3 Reload
>First Persona game ever
>Can't advance social link
>Oh okay so maybe you have to wait until you progress in the story
>Spend most of the first trimester just eating food doing jobs wondering why nothing happens
>You're supposed to have a filler meet up to pass through the threshold
>Can't max all social links now
Well that sucked
The chance you were going to max all social links on your first playthrough of your first persona game was miniscule at best. Just enjoy what you got for now.
That’s what ng+ is for. Just look up a guide to help you with the SLs. Or you can read up some computer science materials and write your own program which solves the (slightly modified) maximum matching problem.
If you want to complete all SLs asap, you can perform binary search on the dates, combined with a maximum flow algorithm of your choice (Ford-Fulkerson would be best) on the set of dates. Although you could technically skip the binary search part if you could modify the max flow algorithm. This is assuming that you already have a list of all the available arcana dates and that each time you hang out with them, you are guaranteed to level up
Fantastic armpits.
Do I get to lap at those pits if I win?
this artist is really good, too bad there's not many art
Siegfried is so fricking based. I used him in FES and now I'm using him again. Him and Alice are the only ones you need.
Should I watch the Persona 3 movies? And the sequel anime?
Only watched the first film and it was awful. One of the worst game movies.
The manga is way better.
the ending in the movie is way better IMO
Does Aigis give a weird and overly long 10 minute rant about what it is to be human and being close to others in the movie too?
It's even weirder when you remember Atlus said Aigis didn't know the MC was dying at this point so the speech made no sense anyways.
What? All these years here and I've never heard this? You're right the whole scene makes no sense, if she doesn't know.
What doesn't make sense about it? She was happy they remembered and everyone was keeping their promise. It was the period at the end of the story, the finality and promise of a happy ever after. What did she say to make you think she knew he was dying?
She literally cries as she watches him. The scene was intentionally written as a very dramatic and theatrical goodbye between the two, and The Answer was not even planned back then, it was retroactively added later.
>She literally cries as she watches him.
Tears of happiness.
>The scene was intentionally written as a very dramatic and theatrical goodbye between the two
With her ignorance of it.
The length of a speech has no bearing on whether you think someone's dying or not.
I dunno why you're defending The Answer here by trying to excuse its dumber version of events, which is one of many things people hated about it.
I don't know why you're so desperate to blame the game for your mistake.
Also
>She literally cries as she watches him
>The Answer was not even planned back then
So the author agrees with his interpretation that Aigis didn't know. She constantly hammers in that she wants to protect and stay with MC from this point onwards. That would be moronic if she was assuming he was dying right there.
The author wrote The Answer because people dared to assume that the ending was open to interpretation, which is something his miserable (at the time) ass could not stand for.
>assume that the ending was open to interpretation
Which it should have been and was originally planned out to be until Atlus wanted more quick money.
It's only open to interpretation if you're fricking stupid and lack the cognitive function to interpret it.
Its stupid to think he was just sleeping but its not stupid to think its ok that he went to high school, hung out with friends, etc for a month after dying. Frick off, imbecile.
are you trying to troll me?
I seriously don't think you have a high enough IQ for this simple discussion. You have an anime mindset where nothing needs to make sense simply because its fiction and the writers can do no wrong.
The final choice given to you to "close your eyes" or ".....". Why would you be given such a choice at the end if the fate was sealed? Naturally, people thought that you decide what the protagonist does here - chooses to pass away with his duty fulfilled or to keep living.
But as it turns out, it literally didn't mean anything.
its basically either close your eyes or die with your eyes open and your arms just flopping to your side man
>But as it turns out, it literally didn't mean anything.
Every action has a meaning, even if the destination is the same.
You still haven't explained why it doesn't make sense to you. Why should he not be able to struggle to live for a month to keep his promise?
>Why should he not be able to struggle to live for a month to keep his promise?
Better to have you explain to me how he can.
>Better to have you explain to me how he can.
You're the one making the claim. I'm not going to tell the writers how long a soul can last, how long a body can last with its soul under pressure, or how magic works. That would be arrogant of me. The writers decided that after achieving the power of a god, he kept just enough strength in his body to last until the promised day, and I see no reason why I should have a problem with that.
>Every action has a meaning, even if the destination is the same.
That's a fancy way of saying "the illusion of choice".
I still don't get what part of FES, other than weapon switching, we're missing here. Everything FES added, like the Aigis link and hidden camera scenes, is here. The Answer will be added later too.
>That's a fancy way of saying "the illusion of choice".
That's a dumbass way of saying "I didn't understand the game."
The major arcana tarot cards are literally called The Journey. Let that sink in.
>The major arcana tarot cards are literally called The Journey. Let that sink in.
I have no clue why you brought that up. I said it plain as day - people assumed that you get to choose the ending, which was something everyone was happy with. Then Episode Aegis happens, and rains on everyone's parade. The Japanese fans are still salty about it.
That reminds me - the lesson of Persona 3 was literally supposed to be "live fast, die young". I'm not kidding. Here's an exerpt from a Famitsu interview with Yuichiro Tanaka, the writer.
https://w.atwiki.jp/p3etc/pages/24.html
--What can you say now, what did you want to portray in Persona 3?
Tanaka: I wanted to incorporate the theme of "The end will come for everything." In other words, it comes in every life, and in the end, death awaits everyone.
If you think about death on a daily basis, you will become depressed, but I don't think you can live a fulfilling life if you ignore it.
There's an old movie called ``Any Given Sunday,'' and the catchphrase of that movie is ``Don't live in vain, die passionately!''
Hashino really emphasized this word (lol).
: --Oh, that's cool (lol).
Tanaka: That's right (lol).
When I thought about that catchphrase, I thought, ``That makes sense.'' Rather than living a life of just living for 80 years, I think you'll feel more fulfilled living if you choose your own life, even if it's a short one.
That's why I wanted to portray that in Persona 3.
>I have no clue why you brought that up.
It's about the journey, not the destination. You just said that nothing matters because of the end result.
>people assumed that you get to choose the ending,
Assumptions are moronic. Not even the best detectives in the world make assumptions based on their feelings alone.
> Then Episode Aegis happens, and rains on everyone's parade.
No one was upset by it because everyone who paid attention knew exactly what was happening.
>No one was upset by it because everyone who paid attention knew exactly what was happening.
Then you weren't around to see the pushback it got. People hated The Answer, for screwing up the ending and turning the melodrama up to insane degree, not to mention it being by far the worst game in the Persona series, if you count it separately from P3 (and you can, because it originally was a standalone release).
>Then you weren't around to see the pushback it got
Why would I care about the opinions of morons who can't pay attention? Are you expecting me to agree with stupid people en masse just because there are a lot of people holding a mistaken viewpoint?
Or are you trying to justify your claim by saying "*everyone* agrees with me!"
Either way, you are not convincing me of anything.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm simply correcting you.
You're not correct.
And you are convinced "the majority is always right". I feel pity for you, growing up conditioned to never step out of what is socially acceptable, always beating yourself down to conform to what everyone else tells you is right.
>You're not correct.
You said "everyone liked The Answer". I said "No, no one liked The Answer, and you can easily find evidence of that fricking everywhere, both Japan and the West". You responded with "I don't follow the sheep". So where am I not correct?
>You said "everyone liked The Answer".
No, I said I liked The Answer and it's very good. I don't care what you or everyone else thinks.
This is literally a "Its the world that is wrong, not me." post.
>E-Everyone is a sheep or a moron but me
Frick off Ryoji.
It seems like you’re just mad your headcanon was 100% broken instead of 90% broken lol, no honest reading of the text ends ambiguously, the ENTIRE GAME is about your limited time on Earth.
>the ENTIRE GAME is about your limited time on Earth.
Not him. The entire bossfight is kinda contradicting this if you want to make this argument. Humanity's time absolutely ran out at the end with big statements about how that particular end by Nxy at this point in time is inevitable, yet they survived. Some of the social links as well tell you that maybe the end has come but you can start anew
Her 2 hour speech at the end implies she knew.
Why would she cry? Why would she speak in such a forlorn way as though she's failing her promise while making it? Why would they be on the roof at all with him resting on her lap?
>Why would she cry?
Tears of happiness.
>Why would she speak in such a forlorn way as though she's failing her promise while making it?
She's not, she's happy they've fulfilled their promise.
>Why would they be on the roof at all with him resting on her lap?
They agreed to meet on the roof and he was tired as frick.
i rike it
perfection
>Constantly edged out with 5 or 4 HP
>Origia Mode Aigis taking Hits like a goddess
>Edging
>Orgia (That's "orgy" in Spanish btw.)
Lewd!
Assuming The Answer isn't canon what is supposed to be the reason MC died?
The Answer is canon. Everything is canon, as far as Atlus is concerned.
>Assuming The Answer isn't canon
But it is, we've had multiple confirmations of it across many games, even in P4 if you don't consider any spin-offs canon either.
>even in P4
The only connection I saw was the P4 crew going to the P3 crew's highschool. Nothing about 3's protagonist dying to become a seal.
Fight Margaret.
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>Door-kun and Chad Ziodyne has Velvet Attendants willing to give up everything for them
Joker bros...
>what is supposed to be the reason MC died?
If you want to ignore The Answer which didn't change anything or introduce anything new, the fact the Great Seal costed 100% (ALL) of your HP is enough confirmation on why he died.
The reason he survived until graduation day was to fulfil his promise.
>The reason he survived until graduation day was to fulfil his promise
I hate how people simple accept this as if its a perfectly reasonable excuse for the character to stick around for a month. This is easily the worst thing about P3's ending.
It's a pretty good ending if a petty nitpick like that is all you have to b***h about.
Nothing petty about it. Its nonsensical Japanese power of friendship nonsense. The rooftop scene should have taken place immediately after Nyx was sealed. Waiting a month to die because of a verbal agreement is absurd.
Do you have asperger's syndrome?
Are you a weeb that just accepts horribly writing regardless of how unlikely it is?
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I mean we know that ghosts and souls exist in the Persona-verse so it's not a stretch to think he can still hang onto life even after becoming the seal. Just think of it as astral projection or some shit.
Since you seem to be an expert on souls, seals, occult magic and how long a body can last with its soul being strained by something, could you tell us the exact amount of time a person's body can last with its soul being put under duress?
Failing that, why did you choose to play a game about bonds between humans and b***h about the power of bonds between humans?
The bonds giving the protagonist the power to overcome Nyx is fine. Its the entire going on with his daily life after supposedly dying that kills the remaining suspension of belief.
That's kino you dumb cold Black person.
For me it's the credits theme.
Yukari should have let Makoto knock her up.
Jin is a Persona 4 character
This shota is lewd too!
Chihiro is into hand holding!
Maiko wants to marry MC-kun!
Whoever wrote the script and characters was very horny.
>sleeveless turtleneck outfit
UWAAAAAAAAAA
I feel bad about the P3 ending because it's not satisfying at all. I wanted Aigis and the MC to be happy after all they went through, and this ending threw one into the pit of hell to guard some gay demon, and another became so heartbroken and depressed that she literally wanted to revert back to an emotionless machine because her entire existence was torture. The frick kinda finale is that? Even the bad ending is better, they all still die but at least they're fricking happy.
Didn't Makoto forget about everything until march as well? I think even if he tried to tell the sees members what happened they'd probably avoid him like the plague, thinking he was a madman
It was heavily implied he didn't forget since he knew he had to live until graduation.
It just kind of seemed odd how Aigis kept her distance if Makoto was in the know all along.
I don't think it was something he was consciously thinking about, and it would be weird for him to remember that and not approach or talk to Aigis about it who clearly did remember. Also some of the dialogue options leading up to graduation day imply he didn't remember yet.
I mean even if he remembered Aigis assumed everyone forgot so it makes sense he wouldn't approach her. But I guess both interpretations make sense.
It's one of those vague things that's probably up to the player to decide I guess.
>It was heavily implied he didn't forget
No, it wasn't. He forgot too.
He doesn't remember until the final day. The bad ending goes the same way, and there, Aigis is also the only one who remembers. She's a robot, so her memory did not get erased alongside everyone else, the magic clearly didn't know how to wipe a hard drive.
Doesn't Aigis literally say on the last day that she didn't remember until that day either?
I don't remember her saying anything like that.
This is another stupid thing. So the characters basically existed in the same dorm for a month without interreacting with one another? I love Persona 3 but it has some egregious, not well thought out writing.
why?
if they don't remember the most important time they spent together, it's natural for them to be distant
door-yukari-junpei remained close in a diminished way because it was easier for them to connect even without memories
2nd-3rd year disconnect was a real big thing early in the game, so akihiko and mitsuru are distant from them (and also probably busy with graduation)
fuuka is probably shy and its harder for them to interact since she isn't their classmate
aigis actively avoided everyone
ken is an elementary school kid, so he was distant too
If I had an Elizabethgfwife, things would be different around here
>Was I mistaken, misinformed, or trying in vain to support a baseless thought?
>No, it is the media that's at fault. It should understand things better FOR me.
why are you gays always like this? so frickin arrogant. Just say you were mistaken and move on.
PITbawd
Met Akinari's mom. Frick, I miss my dad anons. It hurts so damn mhch
The beginning of The Answer starts with the party claiming they thought he was just sleeping. I also think its the reason why Aigi becomes robotic again because of the protagonist unexpected death.
>I also think its the reason why Aigi becomes robotic again because of the protagonist unexpected death.
Yeah she practically ejects her emotions which become a bratty goth cutie.
That scene made me sob.
What's sad is that she never goes back to her post-Nyx, pre-Answer state. Her eyes lose their organic look and she never sheds tears again.
So when Makoto stops being the soul equivalent of superglue what happens? Does the homie just move on to heaven or does it go back down to his body which is probably decaying and rotting away in a coffin
Assuming they can find another way to keep slapping Erebus's fingers whenever he tries to pull Nyx down, his soul returns to the cycle of reincarnation.
And becomes the main character in Metaphor thousands of years post-apocalypse.
More like cremated.
>reload not having fes content is bad
>fes not having reload content is ok
The braincells are working overtime today.
My favorite ITT is
>This game is bad because I have a fundamental misunderstanding about something and refuse to logically change my stance based on an explanation.
There is no fundamental misunderstandings for poorly written fiction.
Oh no.
Hitoshura in DDS 1. Demi Fiend ok.
This was insane.
tfw no toaster gf
I'm so tired of people acting like playing a VIDEO GAME and liking certain characters make you weird or a pedo or something.
How am I supposed to cope?
Pretend the manga is canon where MC survives.
he doesn't
stop parroting after people who only read one panel from the entire manga
>T-The ending was just changed because no reason, okay! He will definitely die I promise!
> door barely makes it to the roof with transparent speech bubbles all the way
im sure he is totally fine
read the manga dumbass
>N-No you see the transparent bubbles make him die right as he is about to see his friends the ending was changed for no reason I am very smart
do you think they canonically had sex before he died?
Yes it's Canon
no the anon you are discussion with,but why are people malding about the ending?,i find it very fit with the narrative of the game.
I want Aigis to be happy with the MC. That's about it.
facts and reason truly are powerless in the face of a mighty, stupid group
Never argue with a stupid person, they'll only make YOU stupider for wasting time with them