Finished it there without being Elizabeth or maxing Aigis' S-Link.
They really knew just where to end the narrative. I expected to see the SEES members' faces turn from joy to despair.
There were rumours on launch that there'd be an Answer DLC, has there been any further word on that?
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wasnt a rumor, it was datamined.
when its coming no one knows though
Would they risk cannibalising sales of SMTVV by launching it too close to that?
Will the answer not be shit this time
Gonna be less of a pain in the ass with party member direct control and all the babyshit and limit breaks they added, but it's still gonna be Metis power hour or you get fricked later
All they have to do is add a ton of banter + bonding + more flashbacks to help pace out the combat and it'll be way way better
The worst parts of the answer were enemies triple evasion against their weakness and no compendium (and mandatory hard mode if you're a casual).
All that shit will likely be fixed, making it 10/10
It was never shit you were just filtered
Frick off.
The combat is still terrible and dungeon design is never going to be revamped, so no.
>The combat is still terrible
I like Reload's combat.
Reload's combat is perfectly fine, and if Tartarus is anything to go by, the dungeon design will absolutely be improved too.
Persona will never have good combat as long as One More exists, braindead battle loops are not interesting where you're pigeonholed into spamming vulnerabilities before snowballing into crit spam.
>dungeon design will absolutely be improved too.
Reload doesn't fix any of Tartarus's level design, what the frick are you talking about? Better environments doesn't make for better level design.
>Persona will never have good combat
Stopped reading there. What a moron lol
You have very low standards.
This is true, one more is ass. But this is still the best that PERSONA combat has never been even if it doesn't hold a candle to SMT.
Bro, you're joking right? Technicals is literally the most braindead shit. You literally just proc a status ailment then cast a certain element. The game TELLS YOU which element to use. It's just hitting weaknesses but with one extra step. Have you played any other JRPG ever in your life?
>Have you played any other JRPG ever in your life?
More than you have, I guarantee it. Technical hits are a great way to capitalize on a status effect and encourage you to use them instead of just Hassou Tobi-ing/almighty spam everything.
What a weird thing to confidently guarantee with no justification or explanation.
>Technical hits are a great way to capitalize on a status effect
More like "a great way to eke out 1mores, AOAs and baton passes on enemies that, in a better game, you would need to cast buffs/debuffs to overcome".
>instead of just Hassou Tobi-ing/almighty spam everything.
Yeah it's a given that Persona games shit the bed balance-wise by, like, the latter half. Hence what that other guy said about Persona combat being kinda asscheeks, if you've literally played a single SMT game then this is well known.
>in a better game, you would need to cast buffs/debuffs to overcome".
do you not buff/debuff as well?
> if you've literally played a single SMT game then this is well known.
I do. Not sure why you think anyone who plays Persona has literally never touched mainline like it's some super secret hyper niche series nobody's ever heard of before. Smirk was way more busted and pointless than anything P5 introduced.
>do you not buff/debuff as well?
Not when you can just spam technicals. Why would you need to? The game is giving you 3x damage for free and the investment is far lower than casting buffs and debuffs. Did you seriously have to cast debuffs on basic mooks in P5R? The only things you ever need to debuff are some of the palace bosses.
>I do. Not sure why you think anyone who plays Persona has literally never touched mainline like it's some super secret hyper niche series nobody's ever heard of before.
It's not about being niche, it's more about how it's blatantly obvious that push turn is a superior system to 1more. Also yeah smirk is moronic, but that was only in 4.
>Not when you can just spam technicals.
You just spam elementals or status effect spells hoping for a status?
I'm starting to think you're not as smart as you claim to be.
Huh? You drop elementals if enemies are weak to shit, if they aren't, you proc a status ailment (braindead easy and super common in P5R) then drop the element that gives you a technical. "Hoping for a status" like Ann doesn't give a 90% chance to proc sleep at level fricking 7 kek. You're on crack dude.
I see, I've heard all I need to. Have a good day.
Nice argument I guess. I'll have an awful day now just to spite you.
>capitalize on a status effect and encourage you to use them
This is why they are bad, you fall into the same battle loop pattern while at max ranks since they have better damage modifiers then both vulnerabilities and crits; effectively meaning you snowball ever harder than those other options which are outclassed. Also, you're not even using Status Effects for their intended purpose (CC), Technicals just turns into yet another boring method of dealing direct damage with no variation.
This game has the best combat in any Persona game to date. All of the streamlining of P5R, but without the fricking moronic technical system and with an actually kinda-hard merciless mode.
>but without the fricking moronic technical system
Frick you, technical hits are great.
>dude this enemy has no weakness and that's okay because you can just proc a status ailment then 1hko them anyway
Shit-tier babymode mechanic. Even more of a joke on "Merciless" mode. The game has to at least pretend to be hard sometimes by throwing a guy in your face that lacks a weakness, P5R just throws that out. The only remotely challenging fights are exclusively full-on bosses that resist ailments and have no weakness, of which there's, like, 2 at the very end when you have Yoshitsune and your partners have severe magic damage attacks.
Also, I forgot about baton pass giving you free casts and triple damage or whatever the frick. Also way too easy and unnecessary. Shift is a much better system.
>Shit-tier babymode mechanic
More like you don't like tactics or strategy and just want to mindlessly spam the strongest spells and still pat yourself on the back for playing effectively.
wouldn't be surprised if they revamped it to be like a P5 Palace
Only if it's Kamoshidas
It's being called "Episode Aigis", so could have major changes compared to The Journey's remake.
I mean...you get this for beating Merciless
Wtf does it do
Nothing, because when it gets passed onto Aigis in The Answer DLC she's too dumb to read it.
>Robot that can record any fact perfectly
>Is book dumb
bleh?
Just because you have access to the internet and all the information in it doesn't make you a genius.
Ganker is excellent proof of that, especially how nobody here can confirm anything as truth and mindlessly spout whatever validates their biases.
Aren't girls cutest when they're almost moronic?
Japan appears to think so. They like their women to act childish.
Even in Reload if you check the exam scores you'll see she does worse than Junpei. She says she gets good grades in Math and Science but for everything else she has to learn from scratch and study like a normal person. Don't forget she just got dumped into high school with no prior schooling.
Her brain has to function similar to a humans in order to have a Persona in the first place so she actively has to learn things. Also she just doesn't really give a shit about a lot of stuff taught in school and thus doesn't bother.
>Her brain has to function similar to a humans in order to have a Persona
Making up your own plot.
I was pretty sure that was a thing
From what I recall, she's good at math but not as good at stuff like language. She takes the following classes alongside the protagonist, so my guess is her grades go something like this"
>Composition (Toriumi): Fail. Takes things too literally.
>History (Ono): Middling; history is mostly just the memorization of facts and dates. Though often, you might be expected to comprehend the logic behind certain actions, and there's a high chance she'll get those types of questions wrong. She'll memorize dates but will likely have difficulty empathizing with historical figures and the reasoning behind their actions.
>Physics (Takenozuka): Depends on how her AI calculates physics. She might just put a bunch of computer code for the answers.
>Science (Ounishi): Like history, science is mostly just the memorization of facts, so she'll probably pass this.
>Classic Literature (Ekoda): Hard fail. Asking her to understand the nuances of literature may be too much for her at the moment.
>English/Japanese (Terauchi): Probably weird. She knows the definition of words that are relevant to her, but she didn't quite know what a school was and had to learn. Memorizing the dictionary shouldn't be that hard for her, but there's more to language than just memorizing definitions. She'll excel at the pure memorization portions and fail at anything that requires comprehension of nuance.
>Math (Miyahara): I doubt high school math would give her problems.
Anything that requires strong empathy towards humans is difficult for her because she's not human. She can sympathize with people, but putting herself in their shoes is really hard.
No way she fails physics. It's just like math but more problem solving oriented.
I've procrastinated the game after finishing Yuko's route
everything seems too repetitive now
The story kicks into gear around September.
>Ntrshit
Kys
wrong
that's me behind
Reminder that you're cucking Kaz if you choose to date Yuko.
imagine his surprise after he finds out Yuko allowed me to raw dog her in her room after the first date
You did save the cats and go see them on March 4th, right?
Is that a thing? Cute if so. Where do you go? There's no way to tell if there's a cat in Tartarus until you go in, right?
Yeah, Elizabeth just gives you the heads-up.
They hang around with the delinquents on Port Island.
>liz tells me there's a cat to rescue
>i do a grinding session, beat liz, then leave
>save
>beat final boss, then just remember about the last cat
Yes sis
you are missing 2 of them
Just finished 10/4 and I'm happy that the new VAs nailed pretty much everything. It's weird, I almost feel like they've been getting better as they go along.
I was convinced by the state of anime dubs to never listen to dubs, but it seems like videogames have actually gotten pretty good at it
The new dub still sucks compared to the OG, none of the iconic lines have any impact.
Nah it's good.
Nah, its not.
t. shilling for dubs for someone else's interest
kys moron nobody liked the dub
>Just finished 10/4
I'm gonna cry like a little b***h once I get there.
His veggies are unironically the best, i grew all my soul spinach with him
All of his new content is so good. I'll be there with you brother
What is this dork talking about? We met in spring and summer isn't even over yet
>unlock dorm hangouts
>at least someone wants to do everything almost ever night
Should I be prioritizing these? I feel like I'm sacrificing social stats to do them without much benefit so far.
Do them. I didn't realize that a good amount give special bonus combat stuff AND a lot of them give you social stat ups as well. Now I'm in October with everything but academics mixed out anyways so all the stat gains I'm getting from the hang outs are going towards nothing.
>minmaxed early game so hard that I already had maxed courage by the time they unlocked
Oh well.
This is why you do the guys social stat hangouts first and leave the girls for last because the girls can get slink points from the hangouts.
The only one I’d do first is fuuka because its damage mitigation for everyone in the party
Depends on where your social stats are. You want Courage maxed by late June for Fuuka, Charm maxed by early September for Yukari, and Academics maxed by late November for Mitsuru. I'd prioritize the social stats if you're not on track to hit those deadlines, but otherwise hang out with your pals. You just need to do each task with each person 3 times (e.g. read with Junpei 3 times, then go to garden with him 3 times and you're done) so it doesn't really take that many evening slots to max out this mechanic.
You don't need to care about minmaxing. Hang out with the characters you like to see their interactions.
You have plenty of time to do the hangouts so why not make the most of the stat increases? Mitsuru and Yukari have very meh passives anyway that will barely be useful while exploring.
>make the most of the stat increases
Social stats are pretty easy to raise in Reload and are only required for going for the SLs you like (aka any of the party girls or Old Monk). You're not meant to optimize, you're meant to hangout with the characters you like.
Actually doing the hangouts for social stat gains helps you optimize by getting the passives at the same time, which means you start getting passives by the third block instead of the fifth or late fourth where they will see limited use. The other reason is because maxing out too early can give you too much free time at night that you will use on nothing which is why its best to also make liberal use of cafe part time. The only stat you should avoid maxing before november is also academics, giving you more reasons for saving academics boosts for november.
This games schedule is less tight than fes but its still tight, it doesn’t hurt to optimize.
>helps you optimize
Exactly, you're not meant to optimize when playing the game first time.
>80+ game
>deliberately suggest to anons to play it more than once by fricking up their playthroughs with bad optimization
have a nice day
Casuals like you are the cancer killing gaming and you're not a Persona fan.
>casuals
Oh the fricking irony. have a nice day waifugay or go rot in your garbage general. That cesspool exists for a reason.
>irony
What irony? You're a guideshitter and not a Persona fan. You're complaining about the length of a JRPG and need to optimize a casual JRPG. Don't get mad about the facts. casual.
You are a Black person homosexual
None of the posts you replied to mentioned guides, only hangout optimization which clearly made you asshurt because I suggested maxing the guys out first
Why do casual idiots get mad when reality is pointed out to them?
> hangout optimization
Casual guide shitter.
> clearly made you asshurt because I suggested maxing the guys out first
Can you point out in those posts where this statement is true? Do you want me to bring up the interview where Hashino says the point of the Daily Life segments is about choosing the activates they enjoy. You're not a Persona fan.
No one in this thread cares but you, stop being an annoying homosexual. Go to your shitty general if you want to talk to "Persona fans".
>no one cares
Then why is the casual idiot getting triggered like the fake fan who needs to "optimize" his playthrough?
The only one triggered here is you, have some self-awareness at least if you're going to shit the place up.
If I'm so triggered, why do you get assblasted when called out?
No one is 'assblasted' here but you.
Sure, fake fan.
Literally in none of the posts you replied to where guides mentioned you schizophrenic mongrel. Making a suggestion on how to optimize your hangouts to an anon is not “casual guideshitter” things unless you are a schizo idiot such as yourself. have a nice day right nowgd8x
The post did in fact mention thinking replaying JRPGs was a bad thing. Nice try though.
Replaying an 80+ hour jrpg right after you finish it is generally a waste of time for most people yes. Not to mention that the exact goal of this game gameplay wise is literally optimizing your schedule you half bred autist. There is nothing skillfull about going through the game a second time with max level stats and personas.
>Replaying an 80+ hour jrpg right after you finish it is generally a waste of time
Fake fan for Persona and JRPGs.
It's normal to not want to replay a game right after you finish it, I don't know what world you're living in.
P5 was the worst thing that has ever happened to Atlus, all you normalgays entering this series was a mistake.
>Replaying an 80+ hour jrpg right after you finish it is generally a waste of time
So you're the type to play things just to join in on internet discussions, huh?
Games are about having fun, sperg.
go back
Thats not mentioning guides, thats just anon being respectful of other anons time. Giving advice on what to prioritize is not the same as giving you a guide with a fully written step by step schedule of what to do.
Giving advice is different from thinking replays aren't possible and there's such a thing as a fricking up with "bad optimization".
Nobody said replays aren’t possible only that they can be avoided which most people would prefer because Persona 3 is an extremely long game and the fun of it is optimizing your schedule, that is literally the core gameplay element of this game. That anon was just giving advice which you decided to debunk with no good reasoning whatsoever.
>only that they can be avoided
Normalgay zoomers aren't allowed to have opinions.
>fun of it is optimizing your schedule
Sure, on replays.
Please stop trying to larp as a boomer. Nobody thought this back then and I am older than you.
>Nobody thought this
Like I said, Normalgay zoomers aren't allowed to have opinions.
>maxes academics too early
>its utterly useless for mitsuru until december
One thing is doing it for the girl you like another is being a fricking moron.
We’re not playing persona 5 royal. We’re not even playing persona 4 golden.
They don't really matter.
But you have to max out Ken's events to be able to fuse Orpheus Tellus; the reward for maxing all social links.
Absolutely do any party members you want to seriously use in combat.
They all raise social stats except the ones involving garden/cooking, which are still worth doing since you only get two social links at night and you will max out social stats far far far too early the game if you beeline them.
Can we talk about the low iq builds anons have been making in these threads?
I also saw an anon equipping metatronius on aigis, gimping her damage and also using the null ailment armor despite aigis getting insta-heal.
toooooot
>build
There's not a lot of competition for Aigis' armor unless you really want one extra turn of Orgia.
just finished it.
ending still hits hard after all those years.
kidnapping Ken and slitting his throat!
Might as well make use of him if you go through all that trouble
>NO KEN YOU CAN'T JUST GET REVENGE ON THE MAN WHO KILLED YOUR MOM IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE SHINJI DIDNU NUFFIN
Anti-Ken posters are Chaoscucks that suck Lucifer's wiener more than Demifiend
What happened to Shinji was divine judgement, if the police aren't gonna bring him to justice, then you have to take it in your own hands.
YHVH forever
Hey now. Don't lump us ChaosCHADs in with him. I like Ken.
>waaa everything needs to be black and white
lawgays everyone
most normal kengay
I moved on to P4G. Thanks for the (mostly) comfy P3 threads bros...
I wish I had spent more time in the threads they were really fun but I only got in after some time because I didn't want to get spoiled with the new shit they added (spoiler) but I was spoiled anyway /quote
Be prepared to be disappointed by inferior everything.
Well it's not my first time playing 4 but it has been years so I don't remember everything in detail. It probably won't be as fun as Reload but it should still be a good time.
Its funner to build psrty members in 4 but I have more fun building protagonist persona in reload and Royal has the best of both worlds
Remember to focus on Adachi and both Dojimas since they have the shortest amount of time possible to hang out with.
I had to do a double take at your post because I forgot Dojima isn't his actual name kek
The Vita assets are so good.
The order I’d prioritize the hangouts is:
Shinjiro > Fuuka > Ken > Junpei/Akihiko > Yukari > Mitsuru > Koromaru
Shinjiro being first is obvious. Fuuka is second because her passive is the most useful. Ken is third followed by your choice of Akihiko/Junpei because they all raise Courage which is the very first stat you will max, Ken’s goes first because the earlier you get his invigorate passive the more useful it is since its one less character to heal with SP items in tartarus. Yukari goes next because she raises charm which is the second stat you will max. Mitsuru and Koromaru go last because they both raise Academics, they both have the weakest passives, and lastly Koromaru is available the most out of all your characters so you will still most likely max him first.
Aigis bros...
Oh I forgot about Aigis, does she raise charm? Put her before Yukari then.
Fuuka, Mitsuru, and Fuuka also get social link points from their hangouts, but from my casual testing, it seems EXTREMELY slight. Like, I had Fuuka stuck on rank 7 to 8, got one fortune, and she was ready to rank up. I then tested to see how many evening hangouts would get me ready to rank her to 8, and after 5 hangouts, she still wasn't ready. I'm curious what the actual values are honestly.
I’d use the hangouts for points with mitsuru/yukari anyway they need less points iirc than the jump from 7-8 with fuuka. Using the hangouts for fuuka excessively like the powerpyx guide does is a trap that just makes you more underpowered for tartarus.
>Using the hangouts for fuuka excessively like the powerpyx guide does is a trap that just makes you more underpowered for tartarus.
This was the main reason I tested this theory. I saw it in the guide and was curious about how practical it was. That guide was released really early so I'm not surprised that it has some questionable spots.
That guide is full of red flags, I noticed them even on my first playthrough.
>ignores shinjis hangouts at first then goes oh frick and tries to do them but is short 1 day to complete them, still does shinjis link episode at least
>first tartarus visit is done before magician rank 1 auto, what this means is that you go to tartarus at the first opportunity then the next day you miss a free courage boost from nurse due to magician auto, whats worse is that he uses the magician rank 1 auto night for kareoke, when the night before had house of the deceased for the arcade, making this a painfully obvious optimization that can get you ahead 1 day on the guide
>second tartarus visit after priestess is suggested FAR BEFORE akihiko joins making the second block of tartarus utter pain to get through
>uses fuuka hangouts in the middle of the semester like 4 times even tho she won’t get any abilities when all the other characters are available for hangouts, complete and utter waste
>does the burger shop challenge far too late into the game
>makes minimal use of notes which are arguably the largest stat increases at first
What the guide does right is not max out academics too early and makes liberal use of partime job increases at the beginning. Outside of that I’d heavily recommend optimizing the aforementioned points. I can tell whoever made the guide was playing in easy or normal.
There's a few social link hangouts where it literally gives you the wrong dialogue choice for the most points, can't remember which offhand but one is with Mutatsu. He also undervalues companion hangouts in favor of bumrushing social stats earlier than they're realistically needed, and he recommends doing Elizabeth's requests on really random dates, putting stuff off unnecessarily long. Speaking off, yeah, what's the deal with doing wild duck so late?
The guide definitely seems to sacrifice optimizing the jrpg component, I'm following it loosely on Merciless and still doing fine though. The game's easy enough that shit like him telling you to go to Tartarus before Aki joins up didn't bother me.
>and makes liberal use of partime job increases at the beginning.
Unless you're grinding for the trophy you don't really need to touch part time jobs at all, the Arcade (and the diners eventually) is just strictly better for stats.
On paper, only doing arcade + restaurants to bumrush one stat at a time seems optimal, but they just aren't available every day. You want courage and charm earlier than academics, so working part time is better than playing the arcade for academics early on.
Actually, someone datamined the exact points you get from each and posted it on the steam forums. Does anyone have that saved? Cafe might give you a total net point gain roughly equivalent to eating at a restaurant, except it's spread across the two stats you want to max early which would make it a better option than, say, eating at wakatsu.
Chagall part-time also gives you money, which is super important early on when you'll be struggling with it.
You want at least 3 academics for the first exam, so bumrushing only charm and courage isn't the best option either. Especially since by getting 3 academics you unlock the secret menu item for the charm restaurant which gives you more days throughout the week to give +4 boosts to charm, so you'd be levelling charm faster and more efficiently than someone who puts it off.
You don’t need to ace the first exam most people recommend you don’t cause the reward is underwhelming and its much easier to have academics 4 by the second exam. Getting courage and charm high enough early to unlock stuff is more important.
I just think its better to stagnate your stats a bit and that gives you a bit of extra money while also working for the trophy so why not? Better yet it raises courage and charm which you want to max out first.
You got triggered at someone suggesting to max out the guy hangouts first, responded that its wrong with no good reason, got told again, then you brought up some stupid bullshit of “not meant to optimize for first playthrough” even though thats the only way you will get to fight elizabeth. Your self righteousness is the most fricking annoying part of your posts and its painfully obvious you’re asshurt at someone not doing your favorite girls events first. I’ve seen the pesona general myself and it is full of subhumans that never discuss gameplay or answer gameplay related questions, only ritual posting and fellating waifus. You sound exactly like one of those monkeys getting assblasted at mere discussion and advice of how to play the game in a way that will help you see all events and get all stat increases.
>someone suggesting to max out the guy hangouts first
I already asked casual idiot, can you point out where exactly that was? I'll wait so I can laugh at the fake fan.
Part time work is so ass. Sure, you get some momey but you delay the important stat breakpoints thatbypu need for unlockong the special meals at wilduck(burger challenge), wakatsu, and hagakure. Unlocking these earlier lets you save a lot more money because they're way cheaper than arcade.
Money only really matters before the first full moon boss anyway and if you want to work on your stats while also getting the 55 academics points you need to ace the first exams you really don't want to waste times on part-time work. Just fricking sell the life stones that you probably have 15 of, money is simply not an issue in this game.
still bothers me that takaya just passes out and its never 100% confirmed if hes dead or alive.
Even if he's alive, he probably kills himself shortly afterwards
He was on top of Tartarus and he clearly wasn't saved from its destruction like SEES was. He has persona cancer anyway
He Cute
i just reached october 4th
god damn it game
>october 4th hits
>proceed to the following evening
>my crops were ready to harvest
I love the abrupt tonal shifts the fricking crop reminder message sometimes creates
>die just as they get to the roof
It was sad but that part made me LOL. How long did they carry on with conversation before they realized Aigis had a corpse in her lap?
In The Answer it's stated they thought he was just super tired and let him rest for a while. They carried him back to the dorm and when he didn't wake up they took him to the hospital where he was confirmed dead.
This literally doesn't even make sense because we know for a fact Aigis can monitor vital signs. Somehow no one, Aigis included, noticed he stopped breathing and had gone cold.
>Aigis can monitor vital signs
So can humans by simply checking for a pulse.
It's excusable no one actually thought he was dead that they thought to check his pulse. It's not excusable the robot that can monitor vital signs at a glance and has been staring at Door-kun during her 5 minute monologue somehow didn't notice him dying.
Please check your facts instead of acting indignant on things you have no information on.
Guess he didn't literally die on the roof and just went into a coma
Also the crew are all wracked with guilt because they didn't get treatment for a completely unresponsive person and just dumped him in a bed like a coed dying of alcohol poisoning
This might as well be real considering how stupid the writing can be in The Answer.
>Your eyes feel heavy
EVERY. GODDAMN. TIME.
>ranking 4th in her own game
damn
>maxed out Academics right before the final exam during the wholesome group study session
Kino.
>no option to push pharos down and violently rape him in this scene
frick this gay earth
Do not rape him!
God he's so cute
why did they design him like this...
Can you homosexuals be pedophiles elsewhere, please?
Go back.
seething
It's sad Americans can't enjoy watching cute children do cute things without having panic attacks over muh pedos
Go take your estrogen and circleback to your /vg/ containment you disgusting freaks YNBAW
Go back.
Ganker isn't for homosexuals. Don't post here again, thanks.
Right, Because otome games and femboys were never popular
Homosexuals flooding the site during any of the numerous plebbit invasions doesn't suddenly make them anons. You and your kind will always be hated and will eventually be purged.
It's cute how you're pretending you been here for a long time while typing tourist buzzwords.
>You and your kind
Not a shotagay, but okay. You really are stupid.
I don't like trying to be le ebik oldphag because all you 2016 plebbit scum like to pretend you've been here since the dawn of time. You probs weren't even here when homosexuals were afraid to even post.
>I don't like trying
You're clearly failing.
>starts pulling out le ebik oldphad card
>gets called out
>N-NO YOU WERE TTRYING TO BE OLDG PHAGG
You're the one bringing up trannies.
have a nice day you're giving us all second-hand embarrassment reading these posts
>Ganker isn't for homosexuals
Then why are you posting here homosexual?
This was so fricking good
Alright I'll give it up. You have my permission to develop and make changes to The Answer to make it good
>Max charm to start Yukari's SL
Frick this prostitute
I'm trying
OHNONONONONONONOOOOO
>i'm scared of people disagreeing with me so i won't share my opinion until people stop caring
>Twitter post and opinion from a literal who, nursing fundamental misunderstandings and biases and refuses to look at things logically.
not even gunna bother watching this shit lol
>you're enjoying it wrong
.
youtubers are worthless and spineless.
FES nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
Who else won against Elizabeth on Merciless? It was hell...
>P3 gets a full-blown remake
>don't even bother fixing the fight
Stupid demake.
Fuuka is still really boring.
It didn't need 'fixing'.
It's complete dogshit, yes it does.
Only morons would, just make a proper boss fight.
>new phases and changing rotations
It still works the same way, "do what I say or die" hasn't changed.
Someone would definitely b***h if it was fixed.
Well if they didn't, then you'd just null everything and blow her away with Scarlet Havoc.
But the fight was remade with new phases and changing rotations, it's not just her repeating the same rotation for the entire fight like in FES.
kek filtered
>unironically defending Simon Says?
Only super autists will fight her anyway. There's a reason she doesn't get an achievement.
It wasn't that bad. Made a support Telos with concentrate, charge, heat riser, debilitate, almighty boost and amp, and morning star. The morning star is there for chip damage but I spent most of the fight just buffing and debuffing to set up for a huge nuke on Elizabeth's soft weaknesses.
Targeted Surt and Cu Chulainn in phase 1 and Surt and Thor in phase 3(and also Thor in phase 2). Enduring Soul was Odin that i targeted Cu Chulainn with and Endure was on Norn that I finished the fight with.
So you want them to fix it by just making her a boring dps race and have her just spam almighty? There are still lots of different ways to do the fight depending on which parts of her rotation you want to target for your nuke turns. Elizabeth is meant to be a test of your fusion skill, getting Personas with just thenright skills and resists to hit 1.part of her rotation hard while resisting but not nulling her next summon.
>and have her just spam almighty?
Only if you null all your weaknesses. She could still use personas based on what you do not resist.
That would still just be a simple dps race.
Did you reply to the wrong person?
I think you replied to the wrong person but I just want you to know that I agree with you.
Margaret is such a boring fight in comparison, literally just a damage race in both p3p and p4 where all you do is buff, debuff, spam primal force. P3p is a big more creative in that you take advantage of her infuriate with raging tiger and a team of physical attackers but still ultimately just a damage race. I still wish you could use your party members for elizabeth tho, even if they kept the armageddon finisher condition and just raised her hp to compensate.
it's always interesting to me when people complain about balance in Persona games, hell even SMT games. I guess I'm just one of those people who values grinding to shit on everything in the game more enjoyable than sweating through a tough boss fight then coming out with some sort of fulfillment.
Did they fix the lighting yet?
>just use my reshade that cranks the contrast up 200x
Looks even worse.
It's not broken, they deliberately made it look like shit so the P5 audience would feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
I've been fine just turning down the brightness a few notches in settings, although for some reason the game keeps resetting them nearly every time I boot it up. Anyone else with the Steam version had this issue?
I think the menu settings and save game settings are two different things. Try just loading your game to see if it remembers your setting like it did for my audio language. Drove me nuts until I realized it worked like that.
It's only certain screens that are fricked up so I doubt they will change it. At least tartarus looks good but the fact they fricked up the dorm of all places sucks the most
welp i finished it, what should i play between now and FF7 Rebirth on Thursday
Her Action RPG
can Relink be beat in a few days?
If you're just going through the story, yes. The endgame stuff? Nope.
>he didn't get at least 10 heat riser from akihiko to use vs elizabeth when you couldnt swap personas because of incoming megidolaon
sister...........
If you didn’t cry at the temperance slink ending you aren’t a human.
new Master of Shadows > Old Master of Shadows
>Finished it there without being Elizabeth or maxing Aigis' S-Link.
You want to try that again, but in English?
I assume he's saying "beating Lizzy and Maxing out Aigis' social Link"
>He doesn't know how to unlock playable Liz
Yeah I'm sure making it obvious how much their posts bother you will definitely make them stop instead of encouraging them. For sure.
who's best girl and why is it yuko?
motherly, very affectionate and caring also chocolate
.
The arcana is the means which all is revealed.
I don't understand this stupid green filter they started giving the Dark Hour. Who the frick thinks this shit looks good?
Blame P3P
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It made the menus green during the dark hour
Dark Hour was always meant to be green.
>Posting proof that the green of modern dark hour is wrong to try and argue it's actually correct
what did anon mean by doing this?
Top looks better but randomly ignoring the aesthetics of the Dark Hour for the one fight is kind of weird.
The massive green fart cloud tint are from the movies right? Really liked the bleak lighting from the original.
Shoulda toned down the green. They fricked the Tziah block with it too, weird because the other blocks looked perfectly fine.
Tziah block is my only really complaint with the visuals other than the dorm being lazily lit, but it sure looks bad
The fight just doesn't hit the same without him
bottom looks better
how long would it take to speed through ng+ to get all the social links?
Maybe 50 hours, depending on the difficulty you set.
kek
Translation?
it's been a week i still feel miserable how do i cope
how often do you get affected with dizzy really?
So um, are the third years just plain moronic? They should had known Ken had an ulterior motive for joining them.
I like the movie version better where Shinji joins SEES earlier and Ken looks up to him for a bit before learning about him killing his mom.
Why would you assume a little boy wanted to kill one of you? Sounds a bit paranoid.
Mitsuru was desperate for persona-users so that didn't really occur to her.
Akihiko was hesitant.
Shinji only joined because he basically suspected as much.
>Mitsuru was desperate for persona-users so that didn't really occur to her.
At the end of the day Mitsuru always defers to Ikutsuki's authority and never goes against or questions his increasingly odd decisions.
That part is poorly written, mitsuru and akihiko don’t realize it until the very final moment when they check the date. The rest is pretty much “because it was kens decision” and akihiko, shinji and mitsuru are the type to respect that.
What you are describing did not happen to me at all. You only need rank 3 on charm/courage to unlock those meals, You focus charm/courage to 3 then stagnate them a bit via part time work, you will reach courage/charm 6 easily by doing hangouts and part-time work until you don’t need to anymore or until you feel you need to rush them, you just have to pay attention to what threshold they need to be at for certain sidequests. In this game its best to do as many things as possible that benefit you in more than 1 way, this is exactly why you want to do the dorm hangouts as early as possible because leaving them for the end means you get almost no benefit from them.
>You only need rank 3 on charm/courage to unlock those meals, You focus charm/courage to 3 then stagnate them a bit via part time work
But why though? By the time you reach Charm/Cpurage/Aca 3(need aca 3 for exams) you're close enough to the point of the game where the money you get from working becomes meaningless. And money is the only reason to work. After 5/10 you can cash in the 10k reward from the first old document then spend nights on study sessions with teammates as exams are coming up. After exams you get Akihiko and can clear the first parr of Arqa, get another 20k from old document 2 and also a frickton of money from mats and unnecessary consumables. Why bother working if you don't need the money?
The money you get from working is never meaningless when you’re still at block 2 you are being disingenous as frick. Also if you want a full trophy list you need to make 50k from part time.
I also never said not to use the teammate study sessions, you should always do one time events that give you large boosts, including the movies which is another reason to not max out courage/charm too early, which is exactly what happened to me, which ended giving me like an entire month of nighttimes I had nothing to do in if teammates weren’t available, especially on december where you can only do koromaru hangouts. Seriously just prioritize hangouts over the stat increases unless you want to end up with half your party sporting no passives for over 3/4 of the game. Theres like no reason to bumrush courage and charm that hard, and especially not academics with the fricking summer school.
I never said not to do hangouts, you should do those as early as possible dor the traits. But I really never had money issues after Arqa part 1, had over 100k after handing in all the requests and selling all items. And then you also get the fuuka rescue mission in Tartarus where you're solo with MC but shuffle triggers every fight. Just pick coins and you'll get a cool 15k by the time you're done.
Unless you waste money on police gear you'll never have a use for working besides the stupid achievement.
You waste money on fusion autism, unless you are the kind that never uses the compendium then good for you I guess.
The police should never be used at all imho, you get far better equipment from antique shop and tartarus boss chests.
>You waste money on fusion autism, unless you are the kind that never uses the compendium then good for you I guess.
Sure, I dropped at least 10 million on compendoum fees across the game if not more.
Part time work is like 2500 per night, not enough to even summon a single midgame persona even if you work 3 times a week for 7500. Especially before you get that 50% completion discount.
Its plenty to tie you over the early game, which is when you’ll use it. I also don’t get why you are ignoring trophy completion but whatever. My point was to express dorm hangouts > anything else at night and that maxing out courage/charm too early can be a negative, if you go to hard on it you will also miss out on taking advantage of the temperance tarot.
Yes its going to be 70$.
Getting near Christmas and I know break is coming up. There's no way I'm getting all the school links before the game ends unfortunately due to wasting too much time with shit like doing the movie festival, but I don't regret doing the linked episodes with teammates or Aragaki at all, thought they were great additions.
Anyway, can't seem to find a decent answer online, what S. Links are available during break? Are Mitsuru and Yukari available. I have just enough time to max out one, but not both. I also assume no other school links are available after New Years.
No school links (i.e. the team members that aren't available for most of the game due to stat requirements) are available during the break. Welcome to the pain zone.
Frick. Do you have any school days after that point or do I just have to pick one now?
You have about 14 or 15 days to work with in January, but you also unlock Aigis.
19 school days (17 if you do the Junpei episode)
OK thanks anons. I should be able to max both, as well as Aigis then as long as I use the dating site to make sure I don't waste days. Looks like the art kid will have to be sacrificed as the only S. Link I don't finish. Sucks that I have to do a NG+ for one link but whatever, it's my own fault. Still better than when I played P3 FES.
>go to the Command Room because team mates keep b***hing that the equipment is broken
>See that we're all being used as gooning material for a middle aged pedophile
>say nothing
>keep watching the videos because they're le funny
He's never getting revived.
He was planning to just kill them all though.
Reminder these 3 jobbers literally spent 2 years and couldn't even get past the first block of tartarus.
To be fair, they were on middle school and much weaker and didn't have a reliable guide. Mitsuru probably wasn't nearly as good at reconnaissance as she is when the game starts.
Did Itskuki only join later or something? I was always under the impression he was there from the beginning and should've been able to offer help.
>Reconnaissance
Not like that really matters when each floor only has one entrance and exit.
Ikutsuki can't summon a persona.
Yeah but he was always their manager/logistics operator.
I wonder if Trinity Souls was in mind when they made adults who can enter the Dark Hour but can't summon Persona's before remembering adults could summon Persona's in 2 and them not being able too is dumb when writing 4.
Can Ikutsuki do anything to help during the Dark Hour? He has no Persona, he'd be completely useless in Tartarus.
They saw the Reaper and peaced the frick out.
The part that's hard to believe is that SEES spent two years sitting on their asses doing nothing after Shinjiro quit. I mean, yeah, they probably decided it wasn't safe to go more than a few floors up without a Navigator staying behind, and Akihiko alone would die as soon as he found an enemy with Garu. But they find someone new with a Persona like once a month as soon as the game starts.
Also you literally can't progress past the first block until the 12 big shadows are released and you murder the right ones.
Not to mention it was confirmed in-game that the MC's power of death drew other Persona users together, because it really wanted them to succeed so it could get all its parts back.
Ikutsuki even "jokes" that "maybe we were all just waiting for you specifically".
Surprised they didn't have him play up the MC as a savior/sacrificial messiah more.
>MC's power of death drew other Persona users together,
headcanon
No, Ryoji actually said this. The protagonist was the catalyst. It's why despite Mitsuru, Aragaki and Sanada having gathered three years prior, there were no other Persona Users gathered together. Then, the moment the protagonist arrived, people just kept awakening one after another within the course of a single year.
After Ryoji visits and talks about the Fall, talk to Fuuka in the lounge.
>Chihiro Fushimi: I love you!
What the FRICK DO I SAY SHE WAS LIKE MY FOURTH OPTION IF FUUKA, AIGIS, OR MISURU DIDN'T WANT ME-
Shouldn't have led her on.
I just wanted to help.
You can avoid romance flags in this game. This will block off romantic ends to the links. If she confessed to you, it basically means you picked the romance flags. This is your fault.
is there even a chance for girls to reject you in P3?
No they cannot resist the knob.
Chihiro seems like she would be a yandere and kill herself/you if she found out you were two timing her.
I turned her down. Goddammit, I thought she wouldn't confess until rank 10.
I guess I somehow chose the right options despite not even knowing. Wild.
Just date all of them, theres no repercussions to it
Such a stupid feature they added, has no place in the game.
Nobody cares for your opinion moronic underaged simp.
Oh, you're the guideshitter who pretends he's been here for a while, aren't you. It's cute how you pretend to understand P3.
Yeah I'm glad they let you friend zone people.
They shouldn't have. Hashino wanted female Socials Links to be different from male ones. It's why you're forced to date classmates and are reversed much quicker.
Well he clearly changed his mind for P4 and P5.
He got a lot of pushback for his decisions in 3, it's why 4 striped out a lot and 5 didn't even brother with the Time Management when it gave you the broken shit known as Fortune.
>when it gave you the broken shit known as Fortune.
I miss that a bit.
P3 already has it but it costed a day. Reload also has the URL thing.
Why can't you date Hieeophant then smartass? Was going after a married woman too much?
In p3 I always thought 6 timing all the girls was fine. The dating sim part doesn't really simulate how complex it would be so they just kind of take part in different what if narrative timelines
Since mc-kun doesn't have a future it doesn't need to impact how I imagine the world after the game either
>auto heat riser AND rebellion
I know he's OP on purpose but damn
Was their idea of rearranging the soundtrack to just make all the mixing muddier and quieter? I don’t even care as much about the new vocals. Everything sounds so wimpy now. I don’t mind so much while playing the game since I get used to it, but when I go back and listen to the old songs it’s very apparent. It’s not as bad as one of those typical JRPG rearranges where they just orchestrate everything and erase the texture of the music like with Star Ocean 2 last year, but at least you could change the soundtrack with that one.
Quiet chud, stop noticing things
I made a mistake getting this for PS5. None of the tracks are as bombastic as original while the volume is extremely low. Missing out on Mass Destruction and Moon's Reaching Out is just not the same P3.
IGNORE THOTS ON CHRISTMAS EVE
BRUSH KOROMARU ALL DAY
This song is a fricking banger. Was it in the original FES?
Yeah, but Changing Seasons was butchered.
what are you talking about changing seasons is the one song that is better in reload
It's only good if you're listening to in Youtube because in-game, due to how the game works, you're always going to miss the SUNS UP ANOTHER DAY GOES BY unless you pause everything and wait for that part
>Was it in the original FES
homie kek. it's one of the main songs even featured in the second opening which people make fun to this day because it spoiled the whole game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClJmr2bKSBA
I beat FES but didn't even know there was a second opening wtf kek
That's not in FES, it's from the base release of P3.
IGNORE THOTS ON CHRISTMAS DAY
NETFLIX AND CHILL WITH THE SHOTA
You say "Ignore thots" but you're gonna suck his dick, aren't you?
Other way around
i am going to
FRICK
ken
>Didn't make him shirtless in only swim trunks like the other boys
Cowards
shota frickability comes from their innocence, not their lewdness. no true shota enjoyer would want ken in an adult swimsuit.
There's nothing lewd about a shirtless boy wearing swim trunks at the beach.
I barely ever used theurgy. Kept the meters full thinking "surely I'll need this in the future" lol.
why would you want Answer anyway? Like why?
I thought that the games ending is perfect with that. Why is the Answer needed? WHY??? Seriously. This is some mental illness or you just want something that you dont have.
It's the
>THIS CAN'T EXIST UNLESS IT HAS LITERALLY EVERYTHING AND IF IT DOESN'T THEN IT'S SHIT
mentality. I've mostly seen it from FeMC shitters though.
Because you can't claim this is the definitive version if it's missing features.
it is though when the Answer reads up as an accesibility DLC for people that are too moronic to get the plot without it
It's not.
>It's only really missing the FeMC content
And the Answer (imagine being happy paying for cut content)
And basic P3 features like Fatigue, and weapon swapping.
It's only really missing the FeMC content (Answer is clearly confirmed
) and that's non-canon anyways + the new character stuff for the male party members are like 20x better than their shitty SLs in P3P. FES is totally redundant now at the very least.
So unless you want to be a pedo with Ken, this is the definite version
>and that's non-canon
So you'd be fine if games stripped out everything in them that is non-canon?
>ignoring the part where the new male stuff is way way WAY better than the shitty male SLs
Just admit you want to suck dick.
P3P already basically removed fatigue and now there's SP limiting how much you can explore which feels better and less shitty + random. Weapon swapping is minor at best and 100% not worth playing FES for.
Also swapping was removed in P3P anyways.
>P3P already basically removed fatigue
And it was fricking stupid.
>SP limiting how much you can explore
No version of P3 has any kind of resource management and that has nothing to do with the fact they removed a central mechanic of the game that's baked into the narrative.
>Weapon swapping is minor
It's the core part of experience reflects the nature of the Wild Card that the MC can fit into any role, and even give Axes a purpose. That's not even mentioning removing Tactics.
>that's baked into the narrative.
It's a tiny mention that you get tired more easily during the dark hour and it's not baked into the narrative at all. Hence why it's never brought up, ignored and doesn't even function end game anyways.
>It's the core part of experience reflects the nature of the Wild Card that the MC can fit into any role
You're so full of shit. You're just butthurt that this is a remake and people are (rightly) liking it more than FES.
>It's a tiny mention that you get tired more easily during the dark hour
Correct, it's apart of the narrative that interlinked with gameplay. It's a central P3 mechanic that was cut.
>You're so full of shit.
No, that's the purpose of it. That's why Hashino doesn't give other party members the ability to change their base weapon/Persona. You don't understand P3, you don't like P3, you're a stupid guideshtter who started at P5.
NTA but you are extremely autistic. I hope you at least managed to claim some sort of disability payment.
No, I just understand Persona.
same thing
I liked the fatigue system and wish it continued on in future games because it encouraged using other party members if the others got tired.
I would just power on and accept that sometimes they died extra easy. It only really affected the MC anyways (also you could cheese it with the MC by saving and loading and then taking a piss until you got the great status effect).
I will say the one thing I miss from it is that sometimes the characters would get sick or have great days of their own and it would be nice to get that little dialogue with them talking about it.
Man I have a vague memory of doing something with the bathrooms in FES 15 years ago, was I really so much of a dork I'd do some save reload cheese
Because I liked the challenge, and it was interesting to see if SEES's newfound determination actually held up against their collective grief, jealousy, and hesitation.
Thank god this showed up in my feed on Youtube. I was wondering how anyone was supposed to be able to beat the game in one sitting without using this lifesaving tip!
Just defeated Jin, I don't want it to end chaps.
Is it better than FES?
Personally I think so, it essentially feels like what P4 Golden is to vanilla P4 but with the modern gameplay system. They added more depth to Strega and SEES members got some nice side stories. Gameplay wise it's much easier than FES since you can control the characters (although P3P allowed you to do that) and for better or worse they added the baton pass system, making it a walk in the park most of the time.
>much easier than FES
I think people forget how easy FES was after the second block. Not saying Reload is stupidly hard or something but FES is pretty easy.
Whatever you say, moron.
P5babbies are the worst thing that ever happened to Persona.
I started with P3 FES, genius. I'm also willing to bet that I've played more mainline and spinoff SMT games than you have.
Fatigue literally doesn't even matter after early EARLY game anyways since you last longer and longer each month. By like the half way point it's not even a concern and all it does is make you go back to the dorm and then jump back in to finish a boss you hadn't beaten. It never factors into the plot at all. The off hand mention that you get tired more easily only serves to justify it existing, it has no narrative point.
And the weapon thing is minor at best no matter how much you whine about it.
>I started with P3 FES
And I'm a dinosaur
>Fatigue literally doesn't even matter
90% of the game's dungeon crawling mechanics don't matter, it's a casual JRPG. OG P3 didn't even have a Hard Mode. How does that change the fact a core P3 mechanic was cut from the experience? You don't like P3, you like P5.
>And the weapon thing is minor at best
You're factually wrong for the reasons explained actually like devs cutting corners and content.
>And I'm a dinosaur
Well I'm not going to argue with a dinosaur. Anyways enjoy missing out on a great game because you're obsessed with tiny nitpicking.
>great game
Not with that combat and level design.
>and level design.
and you accuse me of being a p5 shitter.
Are you actually pretending Tarter Sauce has good level design?
I legitimately don't think it matters since Tartarus is nothing but a vehicle for fights (like 99% of RPGS) and it's impossible to correct that anyways unless you just hand crafted the entire thing (which admittedly would have been cool but I can understand them not bothering to do it) and added puzzles (hard no thanks on this. I didn't like it when P4 tried doing it and I was whatever on P5 having sections on that).
Also even in the old FES days, Tartarus never bothered me anyways. At the very least I always liked Tartarus more than the dungeons in 4 and 5 because it let you do shit at night with plenty of extra days so you weren't forced to feel like you had to bum rush it or waste SLing days. Which means it doesn't feel as bad getting to a certain floor and then just going home. Cause I go back in another day and do it (even without fatigue, P3R encourages this with the missing people mechanic from P3P brought back)
Honestly P4 was even worse than Tartersauce imo it just had better aesthetics.
If you're going to make a dungeon crawler you would want the other portion of your gameplay (navigating the dungeons and exploration) to be enjoyable. It takes up the entire bulk of the game other than combat, and the combat doesn't have enough goodwill to save the series.
I don't disagree but I don't really consider FES a dungeon crawler anyways. Also I've beaten the World of Sloth in If... so maybe my brain is just adapt at zoning out.
Should I play The Answer on the PS2 or wait for the DLC
Probably better to wait, Answer was painful to play through and will likely be much improved in the remake. Most people just dropped it and watched the cutscenes on youtube.
I played the Answer in FES once and have zero desire to do it again
What's so bad about it though?
It's just a slog. Imagine if P3 was just Tartarus with a tiny bit of plot (like one cut scene) every like 50 floors and that's it. Also I don't personally like the direction it took the story of the game but that's obviously subjective.
>Drop back to level 30
>No compendium
>Enemy have evades on all weaknesses
>If you neglect to level up one party member you are basically fricked later on
It's just irritating
Maybe Reload's version will have Metis refuse to leave the party.
Tldr, imagine the game being only tartarus. You can fuse any persona but get no slink bonus from it and you also cannot register them to the compendium.
Thats the answer.
You also get a new party member with absolutely mcfricking dogshit tier damage like absolutely no damage, but she covers like 3 weaknesses so is kinda useful.
DLC? I think you meant to say purchasing the game again as Persona 3 Reload: SEES Edition
Yukari > Aigis >>> power gap >>> Mitsuru >> Fuuka
That is all.
Chihiro>Yukari>Yuko>Mitsuru>Aigis>Fuuka
That is all.
I'd rather have P3P DLC than the Answer DLC tbh
Soon.
Sadly not going to happen. A FeMC mod is being developed and the modding server has a rule about not making mods for things that were datamined or confirmed to be DLC, hence why certain music mods are not allowed. A FeMC mod existing means a DLC for her isn't planned.
Do you think that 1) only people in this serve mod or 2) that the server magically has info about upcoming stuff that no one else does?
Not that I want a FeMC mod anyways. It would be super jank and you wouldn't be able to change the SLs
It's not magical info anon. Anyone can google it.
>datamining says no FeMC
>reliable leaker says no FeMC
It's that simple.
That's not simple at all, how would datamining prove that they're incapable of ever adding DLC?
Answer DLC is probably way easier to incorporate.
Is anyone else aiming to end their playthrough on March 5th?
Maybe. I'm around early November, so it can coincide, by the time March 5th rolls around.
Now that you mentioned it's pretty close, might defeat Nyx tonight and hold it until then.
>Chidori goes full blown deredere in her final moments
Good god you just know that once she's resurrected and they get together they will end up being THAT couple which people hate because they are all lovey dovey all the time.
You already see that in P4A where Junpei can't stop talking about her. It's actually kind of obnoxious.
If they had any intention whatsoever of bringing back FeMC, they wouldn't have made S.Links voiced.
F*uka is shit.
does anyone ever use Dekaja when you have Debilitate
Maybe if the stat boosts worked like they should and have two stages of ups and downs instead of just one.
Which games have two stages? I recall Nocturne and IV had four stages, and I think P1 had three.
Prety sure it costs less SP so it's straight up better if the enemy is fully boosted.
5 vs 18 is pretty much nothing though
All the things you'd need for FeMC:
>New model (including new weapons)
>VA for FeMC would need to return
>Theodore
>Different cutscenes
>New drawn cutscenes
>Altered Orpheus model
>Revised script (including voiced)
>New Magician Link (voiced)
>Revised Priestess Link (voiced)
>Revised Empress Link (voiced)
>Slightly revised Emperor Link (voiced)
>Slightly revised Hierophant Link (voiced)
>Slightly revised Lovers link (voiced)
>New Chariot Link (new voice)
>New Justice Link (voiced)
>New Hermit Link (new voice)
>New Fortune Link (voiced)
>New Strength Link (some voiced)
>Slightly revised Hanged Man Link (Voiced)
>Slightly revised Temperance Link (voiced)
>Slightly revised Devil Link (voiced)
>Slightly revised Tower Link (voiced)
>New Star Link (voiced)
>New Moon Link (voiced)
>Inaba trip event (Yukiko)
Plus you'd need to recontextualize a lot of the Link Episodes. There's a lot of redundancy.
You probably wouldn't be able to save Shinjiro since the payoff for this, where Shinjiro shows up at the end if you were in a relationship with him, probably wouldn't be in Reload. The ending is partially several cutscenes and they're probably not gonna make a bunch of altered versions to incorporate every potential lover.
Suffice it to say, they're probably never adding FeMC DLC. It's just a massive pain in the ass for everyone involved.
Thank god.
>Altered Orpheus model
Real talk femOrpheus looks so fricking dogshit also it doesn't even make sense just give her a male persona (like it fricking matters) or just give her a brand new one.
Atlus is just lazy, yet manages to be some of the biggest israelites around.
I mean name one company who would actually bother with all this shit.
You got me there.
Fricking finally.
(Merciless)
And yes, I beat her by copying a guide on yt, but it was still a pain in the ass.
based. welcome to the merciless club who beat her
My gamepass sub ends on the 28th. I could beat the entire game up if I play non-stop, but I just started a new grade full of math courses.
I don't want to renew it because I know myself and I'll skip classes. What do I do?
post on Ganker instead of playing videogames like you always do.
Renew it and then just take your time. Then when you beat it, go play a Yakzua game or something.
Does new game plus let you do social links earlier? I don't wanna wait until endgame to finish art club gay and fuuka.
Concept Tartarus is byoutiful.
So that's where Reload drew the block designs from. I was wondering why Arqa looked all weirdly organic in reload.
wdym
that's reload's artbook
Arqa and Harabah managed to translate it well enough, but what a downgrade for Tziah and Yabbashah
Non-euclydian geometry isn't particularly ideal when the game doesn't actually let you walk on walls.
P5 had a section in the museum where you ran through a non-euclidean area though I imagine it would have gotten annoying for very long
I wish there were at least 2 more variations.
That's absolutely gorgeous. It really is a shame what they did to Tziah and Yabbashah. Hope they patch it or something.
Damn I wish Tziah actually had vegetation, would look far less monotonous.
>that Yabbashah
we were robbed sisters. i only wish tartarus themes were more explored and contextualized
Very Strange Journey
do you think they'll ever revive ryoji in dlc or is he perma dead
Perma dead. There's no reason for him to ever exist unless they wanna bullshit up an excuse to revive him just to take door's place somehow, which wouldn't make sense.
I don't see the point narratively. He was barely even a real person.
Depends on if Atlus ever wants to even entertain the fanfic-tier plot thread of Elizabeth gaining her own fool arcana in the fighting games. Maybe it'll happen since Reload revived alot of interest in p3 in general to use as a spin-off vehicle again until P6 is out
He's dead.
>You want friendship? Get a dog
Get fricked Ryoji, I liked you better when you were a child.
hopefully stays just as fanfic like any other shite they did inbetween
>we will get to see this remastered and in 8K
holy mother of kinorino
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The fact that a future exists, and being able to access it are very different things.
>Aigis just shooting actual live rounds at her team mates
>Somehow they aren't fricking dead
lmao I might actually boot up FES after I finish Reload and do the answer
they aren't fricking dead
hehe. lol.
Was there an in-game reason for it? I haven't played the Answer in a decade but it's not like bullets don't work on Persona users (Hello Shinjiro)
>Was there an in-game reason for it?
Yeah, the arena keeps them alive. Since time is locked in stasis, they can't actually die and they revive afterward. I think this was stated before they even started fighting, which allowed them to go all out scrambling for the keys.
Ahh. That makes sense then. Also jesus
If Arena is anything to go by, Akihiko claims it's pretty easy by just looking at where the person is aiming and then just moving to the side.
Otherwise, bullets work just fine.
That's kind of a problem with Arena as well, Naoto just filling her friends with bullets
Isn't Naoto's gun a fake?
No. Fake guns are only a thing in 5. 1-4 anyone that uses a gun is actually packing heat.
If she had a real gun on her, I'm more upset now at her absolute fricking 0 IQ move during her arc in 4.
>Know a serial killer is coming for you
>Already know his M.O.
>Literally just sit in your house and let it happen
>Don't even bother putting a webcam in the corner
Naoto is a smart character written by stupid people.
lmao yeah true. P4 is really full of bad writing
yeah but how do you respond to this without sounding mad?
kek
KEK
i dont take anyone who says 'muh p4 changed my laifurino' seriously
Would have been funny for Yosuke to just turn to her and say "shut the frick up, Yukiko".
I post this at her
Fuuka's character in general feels like a huge afterthought. Her VA not being dogshit makes her slightly better but she's still easily the most boring member of SEES.
It's straight up just a real gun, it's the P5 guns which are fake
>I have a bunch of gifts in my inventory
>the prompt to give gifts doesn't show up when I spend time with one of the girls
Is this a glitch?
It only shows up if you frick up the dialogue option on the date so you can salvage it and still get some points. I only used like 1 in my whole playthrough.
Was it like that in FES or portable?
I just realized I haven't given a gift to a single character or even gotten the prompt to do so because I've been using my weekends for other things.
Really? lmao
If they ever do The Answer they probably won't do this cutscene justice.
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is there another game that's made you guys feel empty inside after the ending as this game
Absolutely not. Played this in 2007 and have been feeling like shit ever since. Nothing even comes close. Maybe DDS1 but they fricked up in 2.
Every Nusona game kinda gives you that feel tbqh. There's not much else besides a few VNs that get you so engrossed in the world.
To be fair she was caught by surprise and what was she supposed to do, pop a cap in her own shadow self? She didn't know what was going on. Also she actively WANTED to be kidnapped because she wanted to see how the killer was doing it and how the investigation team was involved
At least 4 and 5 had their protags still live at the end, door's a door
If I remember right, she was also fully aware that none of the previous kidnapees had any recollection of what happened. The most obvious thing to do would've been to have someone else watch from a distance, or set up cameras. Instead, she somehow thinks that she is so special that she can remember everything, and also get off scott-free because she was counting on being rescued.
Tales of the Abyss sort of, even though it has a lot happier of an ending.
Ps2 JRPGS were built different, man.
Sex with Anise
Nocturne, mainly because of its ending theme.
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Most recently? Finishing utawarerumono: mask of truth.
Smt's soul left with meguro.
Yeah the original P5 ending
why lovers arcanas stand like this?
The same reason Dojima holds his coat like Akihiko or Yu stands like Junpei. Reused animations because P4 had a really short dev cycle
Because it looks cool*
>persona 4 came straight after 3 whereas we had to wait ages for persona 5 and now 6
I wonder what's happening behind the scenes
Atlus were this close to bankruptcy so they had to shit out P4 ASAP. I don't think it even had a design document. Crazy to think how popular the series has gotten since
Apparently P4 literally still had P3 source code to the point characters and personas from it were still in the game.
Persona 5 doesn't have much reused asset compared to Persona 3 which reused SMT 3 asset.
Atlus are masters of reused assets. Especially during the ps2.
From P4 to P5 there was a lot going behind the scenes with Atlus' original owner going bankrupt and them being sold to Sega. They were also working on Catherine, so P4 to Catherine was 3 years and Catherine to P5 was 5 years, P5 was also supposed to come out earlier but they delayed it for the ps4 port because the game was made for the ps3 and it only had 720p assets and portraits and everything, so they had to redo all of that.
For P5 lots of the important staff that made P3/4 left p-studio to form studio zero to make metaphor, that means they had to basically rebuild p-studio with lots of new staff, and to do that they basically made Royal as a practice game and didn't start working on P6 until after that, then covid happened as well.
I wonder if kaneko's disappearance has something to do with it. I know he stepped down from persona since a long time ago but he's still involved in other smt until strange journey, and then he's just gone.
Supposedly 6 is coming out next year. Atlus also had money issues which is why they're owned by SEGA now. Also we actually got a ton of SMT games over the last two to three gens.
>staring at the wall
Lovers Arcana...my beloved...
what is THIS
armpits sexo
Literally built to become a single mother to a pair of twins
Velvet Attendants aren't human. I doubt they can even get pregnant.
Not with that attitude.
La macarena or Asereje
minatochads rise up
Was there any indication Mitsuru liked door-kun romantically outside of the S. Link? With Yukari and Aigis there's buildup, but she just spills her spaghetti for no reason.
nope. Real shame too. I believe its the main reason she's the most popular route.
No. She has no reason to love him and it's not followed up on in the Answer either for the same reason while both Aigis and Yukari's feelings are. It's just cause female has to be romancable.
She just has composure
Nope.
>no reason
You've been with her for 7-8 months at that point, and the majority of that time she was laser focused on her mission and her need to atone for her family's mistakes. Then her dad gets murdered, her goal was a lie, and now she's lost and confused while trying to keep the Kirijo group from collapsing as a high school girl. I think it's understandable she would very quickly intimately bond with the pillar of the group who isn't an oblivious moron like Akihiko, especially while she's thinking about sacrificing her romantic life with an arranged marriage.
No way gay.
Did they keep the part of the social link where she can't eat a fricking burger?
>persona 3 is eas-ACK
That's not difficulty, but that's insane. RNG doesn't have to do with difficulty.
>--CK!
>attack a red shadow in arqa, right after you're told they're higher level and extra dangerous
>he uses revolution to raise his crit rate, and he clearly has phys skills from his looks
>hm, this could be bad, should i have aki use tarunda or yukari use sukunda?
>nah
>he goes for low-accuracy high-crit-rate skills while his crit rate is buffed
>they crit
Fricking RNG, how were you supposed to know?
Most of your deaths in FES are a result of RNG tbf
That's just bad RNG, it's the only way to die in these games. Like getting hit by a Hama/Mudo skill out of nowhere before having access to Homunculus
They did
Even after all these years, Hogan's still drawing dimes.
He heard all the little hulkamaniacs in the audience
>SMT "difficulty"
Do you think the others in the dorm heard them?
She recorded it and made Yukari and Fuuka watch it on the big screen.
kino
The fuuka/natsuki friendship is so forced
>tfw also have a toxic friend but keep him as a friend because otherwise i'd have no friends just like fuuka
being a loser is suffering
>a social link with a dog
They made Koro like 5 times cuter in Reload.
They did. Every time he's on screen I can't help but have a strong desire to hug my dog
SOLV
Yukari is so pretty.
i love love LOVE HER aaaaa
Aigis being annoyed at the evil shadow laying hands on her man is adorable.
you know
Pain.
Am I the only one that wishes they simply hadn't made this trash remake using cheap samey looking portraits and rehashing all the assets from 5? All this time and effort could have simply been put towards developing a different style and aesthetic to use for P6 while waiting to steal the juicy new assets and demons from SMT5V instead of remaking 3 but "updating" it to look and function exactly like 5.
Cry about it.
I really don't get what this complaint is ever even talking about
He doesn't like that Reload is Persona 5: Persona 3 Edition and wants Atlus to focus on newer games like P6 instead.
But like in what ways is it like P5 that's bad? I don't understand. Is it the fancier UI? How is that bad?
It just means the wait for P6 is going to be even longer. The gap is going to be longer than P4 > 5 was.
Don't we have leaks saying P6 is next year?
UI is the exact same. Character portraits are the same. Same NPCs. Zero effort in any of the animations. Even some of the assets used in Tartarus were directly copied from P5's dungeons but recolored and cleverly placed or flipped to make them appear different. Not to mention the lack of design diversity in overworld enemies, teleporters, etc.
>UI is the exact same. Character portraits are the same.
But they're not.
How can you be posting on Ganker if you are blind?
I guess I'm just not autistic enough
The UI is directly inspired by P5, even Re:Fantasy has P5 UI. It's all flash and style emblazoned with animations of the MC in different poses. Same for the character portraits where characters have reactions.
Sure but how is any of that bad...
Why does everything need to homogenized?
But it isn't? Do you not play games outside of Persona? If anything the style helps make it stand out from other series or like SMT
There's two games with the exact same UI as P5, that's homogenization. It doesn't have its own identity.
They don't
Why is there a constant minimap you can't disable that's always on screen?
yes. die mad.
oc of my wife
Very nice anon
Reminder that Chihiro is a vicious woman
how the frick do i play the japanese version without buying the japanese version? i bought the digital and special edition but they dont have the option for japanese text
put shuffle time
AFTER
the all out attack finish
Is there a mod for this.
no, i made it by using cheatengine to force shuffle time after fights that can't have it normally, like border minibosses. but when you do it, the game naturally puts it after the AOA, which means it was programmed that way originally and then changed for normal battles for some reason.
Glad I'm not the only one that wanted it this way. Always felt jarring for it to come before.
That would honestly be nice, if the game itself did it like that.
I can see it.
I wonder which moron has the idea to put it between the finishing move and the character portrait. I'm sure everybody realized how bad it is after 5 minutes.
Would Fuuka be the kind of person to excitedly watch reruns of TNG?
That was a nice touch, with them putting stuff like that in, depending on what you did beforehand, if that's what I think it is.
What are the essential canon personas for the Nyx fight?
Solo
Messiah, it was even in the movie.
Thanatos, Messiah and whoever you want.
I just used exclusively Thanatos until Hanged Man where I nuked it with Morning Star on Messiah then used Armageddon for Death.
Thanatos is Ryoji aka Nyx
Using Thanatos to fight Nyx makes no sense
>Get last achievement in mid January on NG+.
>Can't be bothered to repeat final boss.
If The Answer imports your main game data then I'll do it.
Only if you have the Blue Envelope.