You can tell by the way Ganker acts when any game is exclusive. There's always the crowd the says "Also on PC", but nobody who actually plays or has on PC says this. Instead, these are the people who only have a specific console with a terrible PC, a specific console with no PC, or they don't play games in the first place and want to instigate and start arguments for the easy attention. Also, notice threads created specifically to talk about PC games rarely last more than maybe 30 or 40 replies on a good day before dying.
Basically, the amount of people who actually do play on PC here is much smaller than you'd think. A lot of the actual PC players are playing games or are hanging out in other places to talk about games that isn't here on Ganker. Ganker is a child's playpen where the goal is baiting, shitposting, trolling, and " falling for" the bait over and over and over again. As much as people say they hate it, they take part in this so much that it's very obvious how much fun it actually is for them. Not only to do the baiting but to take the bait. Even if it's the same thing, packaged the same way, and delivered in the same way.
tl;dr If you actually do have a PC and use it for playing games (among other things obviously) you aren't using Ganker. This is literally console warrior haven
You should've realized this during the totk emulation threads at the beginning of may. Or whenever you see people type "760 bros..." or "1060 bros...."
wasnt the persona dancing and persona musou games on swtich too but not actual P5R?
its a fricking anime style cel shaded anime game, performance can not possibly be the excuse. wasnt p5 literally on ps3?
Literally what is supposed to be impressive about that?
It's a fricking small flat hallway with blocky stairs and no objects besides the player and singular enemy. P5R has way more going on.
If Xbox couldn't pay enough to lock down P3R then I seriously doubt that Microsoft could pay enough so that Atlus/Sega would be willing to say "Frick you" to the Japanese market with Atlus launching a new IP.
it will always be an argument because it's easier to blame the hardware over dev incompetence. there is literally 0 reason for a game like Kingdom Hearts, for example, to have to be a CLOUD version to run on the system, but Square did it like that instead of actually porting the game when it definitely could've ran it.
That's not incompetence, that's a business decision. It wasn't worth the effort to do it properly but some people will be stupid enough to buy it like that.
And no amount of "optimization" was ever going to get KH3 in an acceptable state on the Swtich's hardware.
Getting this for Switch because P5 XCOM sounds frickin' rad, then going for Metaphor on PC to see how Atlus' fantasy RPG idea pans out.
P3Re looks like a beyond soulless remake that changes just about everything for the worse, and it only serves to stand as another remake for a game that didn't remake in an era of pure uncreative repetition. Also Atlus where is the Snowboard Kids reboot I'm still assmad you murdered the series on DS.
This image weirdly tells me a lot about the game. When I saw this and the much better looking screenshots I was on board. The style of P3 is an important aspect, and just this one screencap from the op looks fricking sick.
>many Soul Hackers 2 devs said they shouldn't have released it and it wasn't megaten let alone Soul Hackers >the director copes and says Soul Hackers 2 isn't a megaten game
What a shitshow, I'm shocked that hack isn't fired yet.
>wacky anime sports RPG about superpowered teens doing grab tricks and racing demons while running a cringe deep psychology story
That sounds like a helluva great weekend.
The same site that claims to be selling physical copies of Like A Dragon Gaiden even though it isn't even getting a physical release. You're getting fooled by placeholder listings from a sketchy obscure Spanish website.
I wonder if this was Sega/Atlus just assuming that Microsoft would be mad at them for putting playstation in the trailer, or if Microsoft actually demanded that.
Sega must have got a LOT of money for this long-term co-marketing/Game Pass deal.
I have PC, Switch and PS4. I don't want this shit game. RE Fantasy is PC and as disappointing as it is, I'd sooner play that than persona 3 again. Just give me FF16 on PC.
Microsoft paid thousands of dollars to have a REMAKE of a JRPG be exclusive to xbox/PC for 2 days. For what fricking purpose? So it looks good for investors for a couple days?
P5R runs on it fine.
This isn't a technical issue.
Either they will announce it later, or Sony paid them not to put it on Switch so they can sell it in Japan.
>P5R runs on it fine.
Persona 5 was built to run on a PS3 at 30fps
Reloaded is built to run on modern hardware at 60
SMTV was built to run on the Switch, also using Unreal Engine, and struggled to hold 30fps. It runs significantly worse than Royal does on the Switch.
In UE4 scaling down to the Switch from XSX/PS5 is a pain, you either target the switch from the start like they did for SMTV or you end up like WB with Harry Potter and SquareEnix with Dragon Quest XI taking and additional year porting down. It'll more likely come to the switch 2 if that is releasing in Q1 of 2024
Seems like the only problem with it is "It's not the same as the original"
Well, guess what? people that play the game for the first time won't know about that, so the game is still gonna sell millions.
vast majority, like 90% of people who will buy this will have only played P5 if at all and will never touch the old games... it's just how people are, they don't care about old shit, and by old shit, they mean anything older than ~5 years
>fatlus
It's Nintendo doing the opposite of what Microsoft was doing, announce their version later as a "surprise" instead of getting lumped in with everyone else
Switch is Japanese king
abandoning Switch can only mean 2 things
1. switch is too weak for the game (not the case here)
2. the company has abandoned japan
Soul Hackers 2 flopped because no Switch.
Soul Hackers 2 flopped because it was absolute garbage, I don't think switch sales could've helped it. Just look at #FE
Switch users still would buy it. same audience as Vita owner. There are bunch of AA JRPG maniacs there. Maybe it'd still flop, but it wouldn't have bombed.
>switch is too weak for the game (not the case here)
The Switch struggled to run SMTV, a comparable game also built on UE4 that was specifically developed for it over three or four years. It could do Royal at a stable 30fps, but that's a PS3 game. Reload might look similar but they're not at all the same under the hood.
It might be the case that there is a compromised Switch version, but it's also plausible that they're just waiting for the Switch 2 (or they need that much more time to break the game down), maybe to coincide with the expected DLC/special future versions.
The idea that it wouldn't be coming to Switch (2) at all when it is coming to PC seems pretty ridiculous, but with Atlus you never know
website leak showed physical versions for all consoles including switch so it's probably a P5R situation where they'll announce it during a direct for padding.
I'm a poorgay thirdie. I don't have PC because even my laptop is good enough to play non-AAA games. but I mostly play on Switch since it's more convenient and holding a console feels more gamey. being in front of a laptop feels like I'm working
that's all video games in 2023 and onwards. america has fully conquered japan. every prominent company is either bought (Sony) or fully compromised to follow their standards (crapcom, sega, fromsoft, square enix) >Type 1/2 gender
we're being boiled bro... they control everything...
it also makes sense from financial perspective that japanese companies are kowtowing to ~~*global*~~ standard.
world population > japan population
quick math.
>Sorry
I specifically asked them to keep Persona away from the Switch in the survey they did for P3R and put more SMT / EO out instead. Still waiting in SMT, but at least we got the EO collection even if it ended up being disappointing in some regards
>second announcement has platforms added >this means a third will never happen >even though Nintendo is known for requiring people to hold off telling people about the version for their systems until THEIR announcements
But why would they announce that P5 Tactics has a Switch version and not this, then? Do you think Nintendo values putting the announcement in a Direct or something that highly?
I would assume next direct is only a partner showcase and they are stressed by time limit. Showcase aren't as long as actual direct. Even shorter than mini.
What would get more people to pretend a nintendo event that announces new Persona content is "totally the best direct ever guys"? The one that dedicates time to the cute looking spinoff? Or the one that shows off the edgy anime shiny remake? Mind you, doesn't mean both won't be shown. It's probably gonna be something like "as announced previously, a new persona 5 tactics game will be released on Nintendo Switch this November! But that's not all, we are happy to announce there's more Persona coming to Nintendo Switch *insert reload trailer here*" if it happens at all.
I would expect most third party games at this point to just wait for the switch 2, thinking what is even the point of putting so much effort into a switch port.
Prepare #BringPersona3ReloadtoSwitch
who frickin cares? dont you have a PC?
I own a decent rig for games like Elden Ring or Biohazard 4 but a game like persona is beyond perfect for switch.
Maybe I should just get a Steam Deck although it's a little too big for my liking
No, as pitiful as it may sound.
it will get denuvo'ed probably.
wait a few months
how many games do you have in your backlog???
You can tell by the way Ganker acts when any game is exclusive. There's always the crowd the says "Also on PC", but nobody who actually plays or has on PC says this. Instead, these are the people who only have a specific console with a terrible PC, a specific console with no PC, or they don't play games in the first place and want to instigate and start arguments for the easy attention. Also, notice threads created specifically to talk about PC games rarely last more than maybe 30 or 40 replies on a good day before dying.
Basically, the amount of people who actually do play on PC here is much smaller than you'd think. A lot of the actual PC players are playing games or are hanging out in other places to talk about games that isn't here on Ganker. Ganker is a child's playpen where the goal is baiting, shitposting, trolling, and " falling for" the bait over and over and over again. As much as people say they hate it, they take part in this so much that it's very obvious how much fun it actually is for them. Not only to do the baiting but to take the bait. Even if it's the same thing, packaged the same way, and delivered in the same way.
tl;dr If you actually do have a PC and use it for playing games (among other things obviously) you aren't using Ganker. This is literally console warrior haven
this explains Ganker so much
You should've realized this during the totk emulation threads at the beginning of may. Or whenever you see people type "760 bros..." or "1060 bros...."
Fun fact, zoomers actually don't have PCs anymore, majority of Ganker posters are mobile, and mobile ONLY.
I have a PC. Granted it's really low end, the most powerful systems my PC can emulate with good performance are the Gamecube/Wii.
uhh.. what the frick... I don't want to buy games on my laptop.
Denuvo is unbeatable. can't buy 2nd hand .can't resell it.
I do but PC gaming is soulless.
>P5T switch yes
>P3R switch no
Kek
What about Metaphor?
wasnt the persona dancing and persona musou games on swtich too but not actual P5R?
its a fricking anime style cel shaded anime game, performance can not possibly be the excuse. wasnt p5 literally on ps3?
The dancing games are still Playstation exclusive. Strikers was on Playstation, Switch, and PC but not Xbox.
>but not Xbox.
good, they dont deserve to dancing all night
>performance can not possibly be the excuse
It's funny to me that you think that
Literally what is supposed to be impressive about that?
It's a fricking small flat hallway with blocky stairs and no objects besides the player and singular enemy. P5R has way more going on.
https://metaphor.atlus.com
Still showing only Xbox and Windows right now.
could be timed like Yakuza 7. Xbox said they partnered with sega
If Xbox couldn't pay enough to lock down P3R then I seriously doubt that Microsoft could pay enough so that Atlus/Sega would be willing to say "Frick you" to the Japanese market with Atlus launching a new IP.
Unreal Engine 4 is to resource heavy for Switch,
That’s why Mk11 and Mk1 which still run on a modified Unreal 3.5 by NRS work(barely LmAO) on switch
SMTV runs on unreal 4
The Yoshi game runs on Unreal Engine 4. The idea that the switch couldn't run it should've been gone awhile ago
it will always be an argument because it's easier to blame the hardware over dev incompetence. there is literally 0 reason for a game like Kingdom Hearts, for example, to have to be a CLOUD version to run on the system, but Square did it like that instead of actually porting the game when it definitely could've ran it.
That's not incompetence, that's a business decision. It wasn't worth the effort to do it properly but some people will be stupid enough to buy it like that.
And no amount of "optimization" was ever going to get KH3 in an acceptable state on the Swtich's hardware.
not even talking about 3, i'm talking about 1 and 2
Yes, it wasn't worth the effort to port every single game in the series to the Switch.
Who the frick still owns a Switch in 2023?
me…
I do but it's a glorified cart dumper
Switch is getting Tactica though!
>Steam were added, but no Switch
then im not buying it, simple as
gonna buy this instead, frick atlus! they wont get my money if they keep the nintendo hate
Getting this for Switch because P5 XCOM sounds frickin' rad, then going for Metaphor on PC to see how Atlus' fantasy RPG idea pans out.
P3Re looks like a beyond soulless remake that changes just about everything for the worse, and it only serves to stand as another remake for a game that didn't remake in an era of pure uncreative repetition.
Also Atlus where is the Snowboard Kids reboot I'm still assmad you murdered the series on DS.
This single frame from the new intro has more soul than 90% of games released in the last 15 years
I just realized why does door have gloves
This image weirdly tells me a lot about the game. When I saw this and the much better looking screenshots I was on board. The style of P3 is an important aspect, and just this one screencap from the op looks fricking sick.
All those games are shit
Atlus is dead
>spoiler
Do you really want Snowboard Kids with personas and the devs pretending snowboarding is a deep psychological journey?
Nta but yes
Sure why not. I have given up so at least give me something to laugh at.
>cutting Mara for DLC
What were they thinking?
>SouLLESS hackers 2
>many Soul Hackers 2 devs said they shouldn't have released it and it wasn't megaten let alone Soul Hackers
>the director copes and says Soul Hackers 2 isn't a megaten game
What a shitshow, I'm shocked that hack isn't fired yet.
That sounds fricking hilarious
The stupid thing is that the whole "muh capitalism is bad" thing ends up playing no role in the story.
This was supposed to be the third pillar of Atlus. I have no fricking idea what Ishida was even thinking when he said that and presented SH2.
looks cool
why do we hate this
i don't keep up with games anymore, so i don't know
no male MC to self- insert to
no harem
ohno
no, I've got it on PC and I would pirate it
oof nvm
Play it and see for yourself
he can't
no money for games, and no PC to pirate with
>wacky anime sports RPG about superpowered teens doing grab tricks and racing demons while running a cringe deep psychology story
That sounds like a helluva great weekend.
Why's it unlisted?
Do we really need a repeat of last year?
Also the Switch version was leaked days ago
The same site that claims to be selling physical copies of Like A Dragon Gaiden even though it isn't even getting a physical release. You're getting fooled by placeholder listings from a sketchy obscure Spanish website.
Tendies BTFO
>Xbox Series X
>Xbox One
S bro's, they forgot about us
They even listed a PC DVD version as well.
That's some homosexual looking cover
Are there really switchgays who don't have a PC or even PS4?
>steam
YES
FINALLY A NEW RELEASE ON RELEASE DAY
I don't buy demakes.
Metaphor: ReFantazio still not announced for ps4/5
might be timed exclusive, like rumors suggested.
Dont force me to buy a Series S atlus, my xbox friends wouldnt let me hear the end if it
>Buying a console for one game
Grow some balls man
Well if it DOES happen, I could atleast get to play Starfield too I guess
Just get it on PC moron. You just need to get it off the Windows Store instead of Steam.
>Windows Store
Ewww, no thanks.
They’re probably saving to announce it next direct
I wonder if this was Sega/Atlus just assuming that Microsoft would be mad at them for putting playstation in the trailer, or if Microsoft actually demanded that.
Sega must have got a LOT of money for this long-term co-marketing/Game Pass deal.
The cry of a million tendies when they realize they should have went idort
I have PC, Switch and PS4. I don't want this shit game. RE Fantasy is PC and as disappointing as it is, I'd sooner play that than persona 3 again. Just give me FF16 on PC.
>Just give me FF16 on PC.
See you in 2-3 years
I wasnt going to play it anyways
Microsoft paid thousands of dollars to have a REMAKE of a JRPG be exclusive to xbox/PC for 2 days. For what fricking purpose? So it looks good for investors for a couple days?
Xbox has always lacked in JRPGs
It's all because no one bought Blue Dragon.
As an Xbot, I am happy that they are actually getting JRPGs on the platforms at all tbh
Because most people don't pay attention to news past two days
they're saving it for their June direct
>playing P3P
>its probably the better of the modern trilogy
frick me why did I play this series backwards
Well yeah, it's supposed to run at 4K 60
I see this game is doing the "fake reflective surface" thing. You can tell because the characters themselves aren't reflected on the floor.
They're just a small and humble studio
>buying p5r on Switch was for nothing
They already have P3P.
Soul Hackers 2 level sales incoming. Same for Metaphor.
The Switch is a weak piece of hardware. How many times does this need to be said? My phone is more powerful than that thing.
P5R runs on it fine.
This isn't a technical issue.
Either they will announce it later, or Sony paid them not to put it on Switch so they can sell it in Japan.
>P5R runs on it fine.
Persona 5 was built to run on a PS3 at 30fps
Reloaded is built to run on modern hardware at 60
SMTV was built to run on the Switch, also using Unreal Engine, and struggled to hold 30fps. It runs significantly worse than Royal does on the Switch.
they can use Sony's exclusivity deal time to optimize it
Soulless
In UE4 scaling down to the Switch from XSX/PS5 is a pain, you either target the switch from the start like they did for SMTV or you end up like WB with Harry Potter and SquareEnix with Dragon Quest XI taking and additional year porting down. It'll more likely come to the switch 2 if that is releasing in Q1 of 2024
Imagine paying for an announcement exclusivity.
Microsoft is cancer made company.
What about Metaphor? confirmed for PS?
How...? How can this be happening...? I thought that Switch was king in Japan...
Seems like the only problem with it is "It's not the same as the original"
Well, guess what? people that play the game for the first time won't know about that, so the game is still gonna sell millions.
vast majority, like 90% of people who will buy this will have only played P5 if at all and will never touch the old games... it's just how people are, they don't care about old shit, and by old shit, they mean anything older than ~5 years
Expect the royal deluxe version in a few years instead
It's not 60 fps
Wasn't the Switch logo found in the Website's code?
Shhhh
Meaningless, the website creator simply copy-and-pasted.
Seriously, what's with fatlus making a switch version this big revelation? They di the same shit with 5R
japan is 90% Switch, no one will buy the ps4 version otherwise
>fatlus
It's Nintendo doing the opposite of what Microsoft was doing, announce their version later as a "surprise" instead of getting lumped in with everyone else
Switch is Japanese king
abandoning Switch can only mean 2 things
1. switch is too weak for the game (not the case here)
2. the company has abandoned japan
Soul Hackers 2 flopped because no Switch.
Sh2 would've flopped otherwise but I could see it selling maybe 50k worldwide on the Switch if it released there.
Switch users still would buy it. same audience as Vita owner. There are bunch of AA JRPG maniacs there. Maybe it'd still flop, but it wouldn't have bombed.
Soul Hackers 2 flopped because it was absolute garbage, I don't think switch sales could've helped it. Just look at #FE
>switch is too weak for the game (not the case here)
The Switch struggled to run SMTV, a comparable game also built on UE4 that was specifically developed for it over three or four years. It could do Royal at a stable 30fps, but that's a PS3 game. Reload might look similar but they're not at all the same under the hood.
It might be the case that there is a compromised Switch version, but it's also plausible that they're just waiting for the Switch 2 (or they need that much more time to break the game down), maybe to coincide with the expected DLC/special future versions.
The idea that it wouldn't be coming to Switch (2) at all when it is coming to PC seems pretty ridiculous, but with Atlus you never know
>no switch
just fricking watch; there will be a cloud version within the next fricking year.
Persona is THE game that'd be perfect when played portable.
website leak showed physical versions for all consoles including switch so it's probably a P5R situation where they'll announce it during a direct for padding.
I don't get what they're going for here. If it'll come to gamepass why would you get it on either consoles?
I'm a poorgay thirdie. I don't have PC because even my laptop is good enough to play non-AAA games. but I mostly play on Switch since it's more convenient and holding a console feels more gamey. being in front of a laptop feels like I'm working
You guys realize the only reason switch has been commited is because they need it to be a "big reveal" on the June direct right?
>PScucks btfo
Shemale VA, Black person VAs, 100% ensured censorship. Why would you want this trash in your platform?
that's all video games in 2023 and onwards. america has fully conquered japan. every prominent company is either bought (Sony) or fully compromised to follow their standards (crapcom, sega, fromsoft, square enix)
>Type 1/2 gender
It's seems there needs to be a pretty bloody civil war to get back on track
we're being boiled bro... they control everything...
it also makes sense from financial perspective that japanese companies are kowtowing to ~~*global*~~ standard.
world population > japan population
quick math.
RIP King Goomba
https://www.game.co.uk/en/persona-3-reload-2914160
doomcucks btfo
>muh retail listing
COPE.
Persona 3 ReNig
FRICK THE SWITCH!
Persona and SMT in general is at its best handheld. I do have a PC but I'd way prefer it on Switch.
>Sorry
I specifically asked them to keep Persona away from the Switch in the survey they did for P3R and put more SMT / EO out instead. Still waiting in SMT, but at least we got the EO collection even if it ended up being disappointing in some regards
fuuck i wanted to play in pc free with yuzu
>second announcement has platforms added
>this means a third will never happen
>even though Nintendo is known for requiring people to hold off telling people about the version for their systems until THEIR announcements
But why would they announce that P5 Tactics has a Switch version and not this, then? Do you think Nintendo values putting the announcement in a Direct or something that highly?
I would assume next direct is only a partner showcase and they are stressed by time limit. Showcase aren't as long as actual direct. Even shorter than mini.
I think Nintendo just likes having control of how things are announced, regardless of the importance to them.
Even indies have been held off until the indie directs.
I should also add, the publishers and/or developers have no reason to really argue with them on it.
It's just more extended free advertising to them. Doubley so as it rage baits port demands in between.
What would get more people to pretend a nintendo event that announces new Persona content is "totally the best direct ever guys"? The one that dedicates time to the cute looking spinoff? Or the one that shows off the edgy anime shiny remake? Mind you, doesn't mean both won't be shown. It's probably gonna be something like "as announced previously, a new persona 5 tactics game will be released on Nintendo Switch this November! But that's not all, we are happy to announce there's more Persona coming to Nintendo Switch *insert reload trailer here*" if it happens at all.
I would expect most third party games at this point to just wait for the switch 2, thinking what is even the point of putting so much effort into a switch port.
>what is even the point of putting so much effort into a switch port
120 million userbase?
It's over.