P4 Vanilla had a far more darker tone to it.
Any old heads here remember?
They went full generic anime slop with P4 Golden and haven't really looked back since.
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Persona 4 Vanilla
P4 Vanilla had a far more darker tone to it.
Any old heads here remember?
They went full generic anime slop with P4 Golden and haven't really looked back since.
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I saw this artwork on ads in game informer, and I always thought Chie was hot for some reason. Still best girl for me
She has cute short hair here instead of a bruce lee bowl cut
youd have to be a fricking homosexual to think shes not hot here.
I think both are fine but the original was more consistent in tone. I hope the remake strikes a good balance.
Yukiko and Rise are for sex. Chie and Naoto are for cuddles and sex.
Chie looks like a man
Yep. No throwing a concert while the killer is on the lose or going the beach, it's intentionally a shithole town with little to do in it and adding all those extra locals just makes Adachi look even more moronic for snapping.
It was always pretty goofy but if it wasn't for adachis social link fleshing out the main villain and the skill cards, PS2 version would be the better version
PS2 was a lot more unforgiving too if memory serves
golden outright nerfed both shadow yukiko and kanji, and likely other bosses that i'm forgetting as well, while giving you many more tools over the base game; p4g shuffle time is completely busted and bike ride skills finish making the game a joke even if you don't go for the busted personas
This is what I dislike so much about modern games. I feel like the devs are too scared to let the player lose. I think they're also trying to compete for attention from your phone and stuff, so they deliberately make everything more forgiving so you won't walk away from it.
even on the highest difficulties, outside of niche autismcore games, that's pretty much the state of things. most modern games make it very difficult for you to actually lose, and if it's possible, they'll make it so you are inconvenienced as little as possible. p5 vs p5r is absolutely disgusting even compared to p4 vs p4g
>p5 vs p5r is absolutely disgusting even compared to p4 vs p4g
Elaborate if you feel like it! I never played P5R
Not him but off the top of my head
>more ways to recover sp in palace (only a measly 30 but they mattered a lot in early game)
>guns now reload every battle
>more free nights = more social stats = less tight schedules
>merciless increases damage multiplier on weakness/critical/technical hit
>you can upgrade technical hit to work literally like weakness hit
>you can start an encounter with enemies already inflicted with status ailments, so if you've fully upgraded your technical hit you can do all out attack without accounting for enemy weakness at all
>futaba lets you begin an encounter with all out attack anyway
>you can endlessly extort massive amount of money from enemies
>ryuji's instakill now rewards you
>maruki's social link is basically futaba's support gimmick but only for joker
>VIP treatment (lets you fuse personas with higher level) is now available midway through the game instead
>chihaya's friend point increase is also available early
>velvet room now has a special state where you can get a bunch of broken skills early, and they come in a set. This also buffs other features such as being able to level up persona over and over without having to register > release > summon it again
>velvet room's execution limiter now removed, you're free to execute as many persona you want for skill cards and weapons
>bosses are generally easier, but I won't go in detail
>they nerfed crit stacking somehow, so no more one shot kill with 90% crit rate
>>more free nights = more social stats = less tight schedules
This is especially egregious considering it was insanely easy to max all links in base P5. You could literally do it blind on a first playthrough. good luck doing that in 3 or 4
Well, Royal has more night activities and three more social links, but I feel like they overcompensated
That's not egregious at all really. It makes an already easy game easier, but it also gives you more to do at night when a big complaint with vanilla P5 was, rightfully, so many nights forcing you to just go to bed. Even with more free nights Royal still has enough going on during night to give you stuff to do the whole game while also not railroading you as much.
To be fair Shadow Yukiko in OG P4 is literally cancer
Like yeah they didn't need to gut her like they ended up doing but she could do with a little nerf.
Never played 4 vanilla, but isn't her unique attack a fricking heavy AoE in that version? No weaknesses either, and you've got Chie whose presence actively hinders the team at that point.
She still does the fire attack in 4G but it has an indicator so you know it's coming
However, the Prince was weak to cold (he's weak to elec in 4G), which means Yukiko can White Wall him so you lose any possibility at a once more. Basically because of this, with the exception of the first round Chie has to sit and block permanently unless White Wall falls off, after which she's allowed 1 Mabufu before blocking again.
Couple this with her having way higher stats
Also pretty sure her minion is harder to kill, too
She's the biggest early filter in all of Megaten. Buffs skeleton is a kitten in comparison.
>Giving Adachi a soap box for him to rant about how bonds are pathetic and having friends is for weaklings completely ruining the mystery, i.e. the point of the game is an improvement
Skill inheritance is the singular thing Golden has over vanilla.
Look persona 4's mystery is pretty bad all things considered, i'd rather take a fleshed out villain then the surprise. There's no one left to suspect after Namatame anyway
>No throwing a concert while the killer is on the lose or going the beach
Because nice things can't happen in a small, rural town when the murders are happening too, right? Such nonsense.
Sure for the general public but the investigation gang should know better than to get involved in a concert alerting the killer that he's failed to kill them
They're children, they need that concert more than anyone else, frankly.
They didn't need it in the original, they got on fine without it. It's a sloppy inclusion, would have been great after Adachi was defeated not right at the peak of Namatame's "killing" spree
The optional dungeon was a far bigger misstep in the additions Golden provided, but that concert was a nice character moment for the gang and they earned it. They're not your Dexters, Sherlock Holmes' or noir protagonists that are used to such human grime, they're kids during the peak of their childhood, savoring their youth for the very last time before adulthood creeps in and introduces them to the world of grown ups.
Honestly i'm more bothered about Marie and the stuff outside of Inaba than the concert but why are Adachi, Yukiko and Yosuke fricking complaining then if they can have concerts in Inaba?
This. Shadow Yukiko and Shadow Kanji were my first git gud moment. Love this game. Finished at least 4 times. I tried to get into Golden but just couldn't.
other than the fricked up fog and (debatebly) chie, what are some things that persona 4 does better than persona 4 golden>?
All of goldens extra content goes against the point of Inaba being a hick town when it has concerts and beachs and snowy mountains next to it.
4 also doesn't have Marie so thats a 1000000000+/5 choice already.
>Small hick town
>Still holds concerts
>Is next to the mountains
You should familiarize yourself with the town of deadwood South Dakota.
Your complaint is pretty much that places like it exist. The population of deadwood is 1200 but they've had bands like Godsmack and Primus perform there before and pretty much have at least some concert every month including old 80s rock singers and etc.
Art direction is a big one. Have a look at the OP photo and compare it with the generic anime art direction of Golden.
Font/ui was also a lot comfier in the OG. Golden made everything sharp and aesthetically displeasing.
>Art Direction
>Font/ui
Holy fricking based; I thought I was the only one.
I feel the same way but for Persona 3.
The corners they cut for the Vita just made it worse for the PC release.
I only played Golden once and went back to vanilla when replaying the game. I was excited for it back in 2012 but it just felt off.
It was never very dark... I mean you ARE investigating a murder mystery but otherwise it's pretty chill.
>It was never very dark
No but Goldens additions are goofy
This scene is based though for dabbing on fatties
>bought golden for the third time just now
Why am i like this
>bought it on the Vita
>played it over 10 times
>bought it on steam
>beat it in 30 hours
Use mods to make it better and replay it.
Ultimax mod or bust.
>Not having 33 achievements
Apply yourself
Atlus fricks up the original every single time they re-release a game. FES is the only real exception and even that's debatable.
you contrarians get more moronic every day
Wrong opinion but the only good opinion here is that Chie is fricking hot
/thread
I don't think anything else needs to be said
4 was literally the slop pushed out to capitalize on 3's massive success, golden just added a little more cliche slop on top
Anyone that would expect a low quality sequel pushed out in 2 years to be significantly worse than its original rushed form is delusional
4 is universally agreed to be the best in the series, and it is. Go back to your 3 circlejerk and piss off.
Your basement is not the universe, despite it being equivalent to it for you
3 fanatics belong in a basement, 4 is a clear favorite of the Persona community.
And Fortnite is the clear favorite of the gaming community. Not my fault you're a gen pop slop hopper.
>And Fortnite is the clear favorite of the gaming community
Said no one, ever.
Man, finding out about Persona when you're like 10 years old is wild. It had the eerie, occult themes of SMT but used a somewhat familiar backdrop of urban 21st century society to display them, so it had this weird, dreamlike feeling of being obscure and familiar at the same time. The opening scene with Rise in a bikini was absolutely crazy, I had to make sure my parents weren't home when I played. Maybe being grown up and desensitized makes me biased towards the older games, but P3 and P4 definitely feel darker and grittier than P5.
Persona is based on Lynchian kino. Persona 5 lost that touch and doubled down on anime tropes.
>persona
>Lynchian
Incredible bait or underaged dipshit who doesn't even know who Lynch is.
He is wrong, but the pic he posted is a clear reference to Blue Velvet.
>it's uh, blue, and it's named velvet
>he doesn't understand how Lynch's work impacts the Persona series ideas on the subconscious and its general style
Lmao, pseuds love telling on themselves
>ideas on the subconscious and its general style
Those ideas are very much Jungian in origin, not Lynchian, that's what that anon has a gripe with. It's a superficial reference, not a meaningful one.
>memearrows reply full of memes
Grow up, kid. Either tell him why you don't consider it Lynchian and why he is wrong to classify it as such, or shut the frick up with your pedantic bonepicking and posture elsewhere. Not interested.
He clearly meant Jungian and got confused with another "-ian" because he's dumb and words are hard.
Since he posted Twin Peaks, I doubt your assessment and must put it into question.
Lynchian is a definition unto itself outside of 'aesthetic vaguely inspired by Twin Peaks'.
I know, which is why I am wondering in what way is Persona Lynchian, like what defining traits of Lynch's style do you see in Persona, that aren't attributed to the influence Jungian psychology has had on the series?
You seem confused, I was the anon who initially called him a moron for calling it Lynchain.
I got it wrong, realized it after replying to you. But seriously, this condescending tone is just juvenile, as much as it is ignorant to call influence and say a thing is Lynchian, simply because it features references to a given artist, but doesn't do anything else with it. The discourse on Ganker would be a lot better if you all weren't shitflinging homosexuals.
You sound like you use reddit..
And here it is, the reddit card. Like clockwork.
Notice you didn't deny the accusation.
Learn to read.
Persona takes from a lot, 2 was Lovecraft
Every Persona has anime tropes and the series has never been Lynchian narratively, it's just had the Velvet Room and the influence there, which is in every game, and maybe P4 being similar to Twin Peaks in being about an investigation into a murder in a small town, but even that I wouldn't be surprised being taken more from Diamond is Unbreakable than Twin Peaks.
Spongebob Squarepants is lynchian
I want you to understand me when I say this
>but even that I wouldn't be surprised being taken more from Diamond is Unbreakable than Twin Peaks
Given the setting of Part 4, it's a clear influence on P4G, as is the JJBA series when it comes to Personas = Stands.
Haven't they outright stated this by now? It's plainly obvious.
I don't think there's any argument that Persona takes influence from JoJo, Kaneko and Araki even did an old interview together, but you could argue that P4 seems more influenced by Twin Peaks than Diamond is Unbreakable. I expect both influenced the game a bit, and I imagine Diamond is Unbreakable more, but there's probably a bit of both in there.
P4's narrative set up mirrors that of DiU's, and Personas are really, really similar to how Stands function, with the addition of Jungian psychology behind them for extra flavor. That's mainly where JoJo's influence on the series ends, it isn't deeper than the surface glance.
>murder mystery
>in a small Japanese town
>solved by high schoolers
>with magical ghosts as powers
You are either incredibly stupid or incredibly disingenuous.
>You are either incredibly stupid or incredibly disingenuous.
I'm not the first, nor the last, to make the comparison. Clearly there's something to it if a lot of people before me made it, and if a lot of people familiar with the two IPs will make it in the future.
Black person, you were saying that the comparisons are only "surface level". They are the exact same fricking story to the point that it's practically plagiarism.
P4's resolution is different, as is the thematic content. I don't remember reading DiU and thinking it was a coming of age story.
The major theme is uncovering the truth, as they are both murder mysteries. And both of those mysteries also tie into the greater mystery of the magic ghosts.
>The major theme is uncovering the truth, as they are both murder mysteries.
Not really, it's a coming of age story first and foremost, a murder mystery second. The story's priorities are clear, which is what fundamentally differentiates it from DiU, even though the basic plot premise is a lot alike.
>Not really, it's a coming of age story first and foremost, a murder mystery second.
Agree to disagree. I see the 'coming of age' part just as a series staple and not a defining part of P4's identity specifically.
>I see the 'coming of age' part just as a series staple and not a defining part of P4's identity specifically.
Then you'd be wrong, but to each his own.
>hurr durr i win
You are the single worst kind of poster, and I hope you are vaccinated. Good day.
There's nothing for me to win here, I look at our exchange as a dialogue and a discussion. Clearly we reached an impasse, so I basically wrote I think your interpretation is wrong, but you have a right to it. Not sure why you would write such a limpwristed reply to it, but whatever, anon,
Ai like hamburger
Are you genuinely moronic? The only thing they have in common is being murder mysteries in a small toen and the killer has a super power he uses to kill with. That's it, and that's stretching it since part 4 isn't even focused on a mystery at all.
No, he has a magical ghost that is based on his soul/personality/psychic projection. You purposefully ignored that part and just said "super power" because you argue like a israelite.
I'm glad you admit they aren't anything alike and you have to pull at strings to make a comparison
I'm glad that you are ignoring my relevant point and just doubling down.
You accuse people of arguing like israelites, you're delusional and have nothing of worth to contribute.
Cry moar, Moshie.
As if a spineless moron being anti-semitic means a damn to me, since we all know you're only comfortable doing it from the comfort of being a nobody on an anonymous forum, hiding behind your monitor. Posture all you want, it's the equivalent of barking into the void.
I've done it in public at a bar and people agreed with me. Go back to your tunnel.
WOAH, MAN! REAL EDGY!
You're still kvetching.
Funny, israelites do that fricking constantly. Further funny, you're quoting a Germanic character who would probably hate you in real life.
>because you argue like a israelite.
That same interview they actively deny being inspired by jojo in anything though, unless your gonna claim guardian angels were invented by araki. Jojo fans being morons once again and claiming unrelated things are 100% based on it and it's the most influential and popular manga of all time despite being niche even in japan. hell it's not even the fist manga to do something like stands/persona/whatever.
>hell it's not even the fist manga to do something like stands/persona/whatever.
Name three.
Its never stated that it took influence, but Kaneko Kazuna a developer in perssona 4 stated that he was a big fan of JoJo in an interview with JoJo's creator Hirohiko Araki
Well certainly. The similarities between Jojo Part 4 and Persona 4 are obvious.
Good post
The problem is that five is at its darkest at the very beginning, you are put into an unknown school and one of the very first people you meet is a literal sexual predator who has undoubtedly raped at least one person in your school.
He would pretty much kill a kid and be exonerated by the school system itself because of his status as a legendary coach.
The problem is though that instead of doubling down on his sexual tendencies, his creepiness, or the duality between the face and public and the face behind the scenes, you get to experience a cartoon caricature of a man who thinks himself as king and has a blonde bikini bimbo by his side at all times.
Every villain past that point is pretty much forgettable and the stakes don't really feel as personal.
I mean that's kinda inevitable given the premise of the Palaces. And the premise of the Phantom Thieves doesn't really allow for all the missions to be personal. The entire "We're here to give hope to the downtrodden" angle means that they were always going to expand beyond their initial circle. If all they did was react to personal injustices, then they wouldn't really be heroes.
Persona 3 was the Silent Hill 5 we deserved. A cold sweat would run down my spine every time I loaded into the empty Paulownia Mall. The liminal spaces in P3 and P4 are fricking terrifying if you're a kid, these games were rated M for a reason.
Especially if you played on a CRT screen.
It just ain't the same now man...
>The liminal spaces in P3 and P4 are fricking terrifying if you're a kid, these games were rated M for a reason.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOLY FRICK TURN THE GAME OFF NOW THIS SHIT IS TOO FRICKING SCARY
you posted the wrong Inaba pic
i agree with you, but i dont think the series is irredeemable, Persona 6 can course correct
>bought a vita just to play it
>remaster is released on steam
>on long vacation without access to pc
>buy the switch version just to have something to do
No wonder Atlus rereleases their games constantly, their fans are complete morons.
I like p4 quite a bit
p5 had good music and aesthetics (the coffee/curry cafe was 10/10 design) but the characters and story were fricking moronic garbage. It's like they took the idea as far as they could with the first boss/set of "friend" npcs and then just improvised for the rest of the game. Ann, blonde-boy, and Makoto are the only 3 characters I bought as being friends. The rest of your party did not feel liked, likable or authentic whatsoever
Why is rise‘s jap voice so shit
I haven't listened to it for any extensive period, so tell me to eat a dick if it's really that fricking bad, but I'm just so ridiculously partial to Laura Bailey's performance that her cutesy Jap voice put me off immediately.
Rise's voice is probably off to anyone not watching anime, but at the time she's one of the most famous female VA
>muh le dark tone
Can you homosexuals shut the frick up already. Every fricking Persona thread is MUH DARK AND LE EDGY TONE LE DEATH BRO LE GRIM
have a nice day.
P4G added alot of really trashy anime trope sequences but its not like Persona 3/4 weren't already bloated with it already. The kind of people that would be offended by that bloat probably didn't like Persona 4 at all in the first place
Yeah I like Golden but it is true. Weird tone shift compared to P3 vs FES
I am in the TV world...with Dale Cooper
Erif Klaw Thiw Em
We are living our lives
Abound with so much information...
Oh hey a lean cuisine!
We are trapped in a maze of relationships!
That goes on with or without you!
I'll swim in the sea of the unconscious
I'll search for your heart persuing my true self!
All the Fatlus' re-releases of ALL their games past P3:FES suck arse compared to the OG.
Applies to P4G, P3P, Catherine:FB, P5R, and now P3:R
P5R is better than P5 and P3:R is better than P3.
But muh grimdark dating sim kino, muh superfluous additions!
They're not on any level.
Both are censored SJW trash, with tons of pointless BLOAT. And in case of P3R, also a totally butchered OST and art style. They absolutely ruined the motherfricking Mass Destruction.
P5R has the best story content in the game and improves on multiple faults of the original like restricting you at night and the handling of Akechi's character. It's a game with bloat, but most of it is stuff that was in the original release that was left in.
I didn't say it's better than FES, I said it's better than P3.
Funny guy ain’t cha?
why did Adachi have the same voice as Yu anyway
Idk. He ended up giving adachi a higher pitched voice when he had to voice Yu. It works from a metapoint, two sides of same coin etc
Problem is they're also, you know, completely unrelated people. I guess it's because they couldn't justify hiring Johnny Yong Bosch to play a character who only says battle lines and a bunch of names from mythology so they had him play Adachi as well.
>completely unrelated people
That's how it works for every instance of the "two sides of the same coin" trope, moron.
Their situation is similar but how they go about it is different.
It's like Batman and the Joker
We do live in a society after all...
Hate this fricking meme, hate Suicide Squad and hate capeshit.
That doesn't mean they should have the same VA.
They did it in P3 too with Yuri Lowenthal
Yeah, but Pharos' characteristics are derived from the protagonist. Before that, he was just a hooded skelly shadow.
Its a small town.
Magatsu-Izanagi too
They don't have the same voice in Japanese, so probably just ATLUS USA didn't want to hire another actor for the protagonist when he's not going to be speaking much anyway.
>silly gaijin won't know the difference, plus it's JOHNNY YONG BOSCH
I mean door-kun and Pharos/Ryoji are both voiced by Yuri Lowenthall so it’s most likely just an instance of filling two slots with the same VA to save some coin
The difference is that Ryoji may as well be the protagonist's kin. It makes sense for him to sound the same.
I don't know how I feel about edgelord Akechi. Was that actually how he really acted once he dropped the detective prince facade? Or did he act like that because it was Joker's projection of what he thought Akechi was like?
If you look at the earlier conceptual art of P5, it's clear it was meant to be darker than what we got as an end product. I think Kamoshida was already done before they decided to tone it down, but I'm purely speculating here. P5's idea of rebelling was cool, but the game backpedals so hard towards the end by having one mastermind be the sole cause for everything, instead of actually criticizing Japanese conformity.
P5 does criticize the Japanese public, the only reason characters like Shido and Yaldabaoth are able to exert the control they do is because the public wants it, and they're shown to be flippant in their values with how quickly they all go from seeing the PTs as their heroes to Shido. It all shows the public as not seriously caring about the world around them and just wanting someone in a position of strength to tell them what to do and think. I wouldn't consider it a dark game and it's clearly meant to be a fun adventure despite it all, but there being singular figures at the top of the food chain doesn't prevent it from criticizing the public.
Those are just critiques of human nature in general, though, and not really unique to Japanese culture. Kamoshida and Okumura are really the only instances of a populace turning a blind eye due to fear of social ostracizing that's framed in a uniquely Japanese context. And even then, the characters gloss over it and simply say, "rape is bad, overworking your employees for peanuts is bad." They never directly acknowledge the culture itself that lets this shit happens in the first place.
I'd agree a lot of the critique could be applied to people in general, but I don't agree that it just lets the public off the hook. Obviously the characters are going to be more harsh on Kamoshida for abusing students than they're going to be on the people who did nothing about it, but the students are still portrayed in a negative light there with them ostracizing Ryuji and siding with Kamoshida for breaking his leg, everyone calling Ann a bawd rather than thinking it's Kamoshida being inappropriate, the faculty not touching him and that lack of care for the students from the faculty coming up again when they don't care about Kaneshiro extorting the school's students, and then the end of the game has more sweeping comments on the public as a whole with their attitude towards Shido and then Yaldabaoth. The Yaldabaoth section in particular is so on the nose with critiquing the public with them all literally being encaged and happy to be there in Mementos and them still wanting Shido as prime minister despite him admitting himself what he's done. I don't know what could portray the general public as more content to have a bad man get away with abusing his station so long as its the path of least resistance than that.
P3R is absolutely not better than FES, not with the butchered art style and piss easy difficulty (beat it on merciless)
>Reload removes troony
>This makes the right seethe for some reason
>AIIEEE I WANT TRANNIES IN MY GAME NOW
What the frick do these people even want lmao.
Silent Hill is ghost directed by David Lynch and his japanese friends.
Like how Michael Jackson helped make Sonic 3...
SH has fog P4 has fog...
Lynch's influence on SIlent Hill is a lot more prominent and visible than it is in Persona, that's the difference. There the comparison makes sense!
Yeah, everyone familiar with the two knows that.
What about Persona 1 and 2?
Quit complaining like some hoes
JYB is great
It's tradition to make the intro movies worse in the rereleases at this point.
P4 starts off with a darker tone compared to the rest of the game but it's not really that drastic. Yosuke's selfishness and Chie and Yukiko's parasitic relationship with each other are uglier flaws than the rest of the cast.
Is Rise even dumber than Ginko?
Rise is very smart
Just because the producers tell her that while undressing her doesn’t make it true
Blood like wine.
The failure of P4 as a murder mystery is down to two factors:
1) Despite half the party being victims, NONE OF THEM were able to remember what happened prior to finding themselves in the TV world. NONE of them are able to incriminate Namatame because literally none of them remember him.
2) It is literally impossible to find any evidence in the TV world that would incriminate either Namatame or Adachi. This is because neither of them ever set foot in there prior to their respective dungeons.
There are bigger problems than either of those, particularly how little investigating the Investigation Team actually do. They're more of a rescue squad than anything and make little progress on the case for 90% of the game, at which point the key piece of info that has it all come together is given by Yukiko, who was holding on to it the whole time but just never brought it up before because she didn't think it was relevant.
Ace Attorney is the better mystery game on God.
Ace Attorney is obviously better as a mystery game, there wouldn't even be a second Ace Attorney game if not because it's heavily reliant on its mysteries working for the whole package to come together. Not that it's the only good thing about Ace Attorney, but P4 does have other attributes to fall back on that make it work despite its failings as a mystery and that's what people like it for. I don't even think the biggest P4 fan on the planet would tell you it's a good mystery story, it's the last thing anybody likes it for.
Well that's because they're moronic. That's the third factor. But honestly, given factor 1 (none of them remember jack shit) and factor 3 (they're all moronic, including Naoto), factor 2 explicitly makes any "investigations" moot. The "Investigation Team" only has any real power in the TV World, but it's also fundamentally impossible for them to find any evidence there because there just aren't any. The Investigation Team was never actually given the requisite tools and ability to find their way to either Namatame or Adachi. No matter how much they investigated, it would have been impossible to find anything until one of them finally un-moronic themselves and remembered "Hey, it was the delivery man! And that delivery man was Namatame!"
The WHEEL OF FORTUNE
Carl Jung is Tarotian
I remember it being a bit more difficult but I can't recall a darker tone.
Is Tarot a mother fricking Jojo reference!?
What if...it's actually Code Name Kids Next Doorian
It's more Courage the Cowardly Dog-esque.
Dexterian.
Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy-esque, if you will.
Positively Rigbyian (from Regular Show).
Formerly Gumballian (from TAWoG).
am I fricking moronic for thinking most of the p3r remixes are better than the original ost? I just listened to want to be close again from the original and I forgot how bad the engrish is
The new vocal sounds too subdued, so for high energy songs like mass destruction it just sounds bad. Not sure if it's azumi or kitajo's fault.
Original battle for everyone's soul has stronger intro but reload's aria of the soul part of the song hits harder imo.
should i use the dub for golden
FOR REAL?
I love the part in 5 when everyone thought Ryuji might have died, then when it turned out he was okay they beat the shit out of him
Most of Persona's links to Jojo are mainly surface level. Personas are similar to Stands and they also use a tarot motif, but that's kind of it. Well there was that time the P4 gang took on Jojo poses in PQ.
Izanagi has the least personality.
He has a zipper on his wiener
>literally 'unzips my wiener' the design
>unzips dick
Kanji is best boy
>he just doesn't get it when you do shit like this and gives an earnest response
why does he do the "tough looking guy is actually soft" trope so well
>My heart belongs to Eikichi!
Yoshikage Kira vs Adachi
who wins
My favourite liminal space in P4 was the little space outside the main character's room right next to the stairs. It's only shown a few times in-game.
My favorite limiinal space is in between your two ears, zoomie.
I like Vanilla more simply because i despise normalgays and how they made the franchise turbo mainstream. Now, old persona was no sicrit club, but i do prefer my fatlusbros over troons and normalhomosexuals.
Having the key factor in what determines your opinion not be anything to do with the actual content of the singleplayer game and instead which fanbase you prefer is completely moronic.
Yeah, i know my autism is severe and my moronation is profound.
The real blackpill is that SMT is not more hardcore than Persona. Shadow Yukiko is harder than Matador by leaps and bounds.
Both are easy.
Epic. Go beat an Etrian Odyssey superboss on your first try, you obnoxious autistic homosexual.
Meh, Matador is just a skill check. The game gives you all the tools for you to fight in a relatively equal ground. You are just underpowered for shadow yukiko.
And yeah, Elizabeth/Margaret are harder than Lucifer, lol. But not harder than demifiend
Matador is just a basic moronation check. Do you know what buffs are? Telling that SMTgays have to make him such a big deal.
>Do you know what buffs are?
You would be surprised by the amount of jrpggays that unironically play the game by mashing attack. That's exactly what gave MegaTen its reputation but yeah, once you start getting into harder turn based games, megaten becomes beginner stuff.
>You are just underpowered for shadow yukiko.
Shouldn't this just inspire you to overcome the challenge? The absolute fricking state of modern ~~*Nocturne*~~gays.
>Now, old persona was no sicrit club, but
Yeah, no buts you fricking hypocrite. P4 is such a fricking general audience leap after P3.
It was but it was still lighter than 3. Golden continued the trend which began in 4. Even 5 was a bit of a slight step back in terms of goofy fun anime times compared to Golden.
So then he crashes into a garbage can
He's garbage can yosuke
Funniest thing I ever saw