I don't doubt it but if you only get P3/4 or no Persona games my sides will be fricking gone. It'll cement the Switch as the ultimate cuck console. Just imagine if Joker in Smash remains an advertisement for a game Switch owners can't play. The absolute fricking state.
This would be incredibly based too bad Microshit gives no fricks about eastern games outside of throwing gamepass bones.
>Just imagine if Joker in Smash remains an advertisement for a game Switch owners can't play.
Well; they got Strikers right?
Which I'm led to believe, runs at an 'entirely acceptable' ~20 FPS with occasional dips.
... docked; that is.
Is Strikers more demanding than P5? You'd think so with the musou enemies adding strain to the cpu side it would be.
Doesn't matter though. P5 is entirely possible on Switch given it ran on the PS3 and would run at an even lower res. Them skipping Switch would be entirely due to their games selling like shit on it.
>Is Strikers more demanding than P5? You'd think so with the musou enemies adding strain to the cpu side it would be.
Strikers uses Musou-like combat mechanics, but it doesn't use Musou crowd-size. 10~30 simultaneous enemies is the norm. They tend to pop out / spawn in as 1 to 3 distinct waves because of it. Might even entirely be a non-voluntary gameplay mechanic that had to be implemented to limit what's on screen at any one time to cater to the Switch platform, because it certainly doesn't matter wrt how fast you tend to slash through them, once you reach a certain break-even point in aptitude and levels.
I think this is just a Strikers thing, other musous on the Switch have normal crowd sizes. They don't run well either, but they run about the same as P5S.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They don't run well either, but they run about the same as P5S.
Eh, HW1 and the new FE game run pretty smooth. It's just HW:AoC and P5S that run like shit for some reason but that's just Koei.
>third party character gets in >game doesn't seen increased sales >smash sales soar as fans of third party series buy smash because their series is now represented
This happens every single time. The only time a series has seen an increase in sales is Xenoblade 2 and that's because nips had the coupon things to use.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>fans of third party series buy smash because their series is now represented
People buying Smash are Nintendo fans.
I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game.
Have you been living under a rock for 20 years or so?
That's literally what people do with smash.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's literally what people do with smash.
Wrong.
People buy Smash because they like Nintendo (and Smash).
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game
Ha ha ha
Hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHA
Not an argument.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>People buy Smash because they like Nintendo (and Smash).
Your naivety is astounding. Like this anon said
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game
Welcome to the realm of fighting games where someone's main getting in determines whether or not they buy a game.
this is a fighting game. Someone's main getting in can make it break a purchase and with smash that extends to third parties that serve to sell the game to that group rather than selling the game they came from to switch owners.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's an absolute minority of people who play smash. Probably less than 2%
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's an absolute minority of people who play smash.
Anon, this isn't a smash thing, that's how people see fighters in general. From core to casual people buy them for that one specific character that they like. For example if say, Juri were to skip the next SF game they would lose every Juri player.
I never thought I'd see the day that someone would deny this just to shitpost about smash.
Most people that buy Smash are casuals that play random characters at parties.
Tourneygays are a very small minority.
That goes for you as well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's still only the vast minority of smash players who do this and you'll never change my mind.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Most people that buy Smash are casuals that play random characters at parties.
Tourneygays are a very small minority.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game
Ha ha ha
Hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHA
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game
Welcome to the realm of fighting games where someone's main getting in determines whether or not they buy a game.
>Just imagine if Joker in Smash remains an advertisement for a game Switch owners can't play.
I'm pretty sure you can play smash on switch.
>I can play a first party Nintendo game on a Nintendo console >But look! It also has characters in it from games not even on the console!!!
Wow... big whoop? That's like if Tekken had Link in it but they didn't put it on the Switch. There goes all those dlc sales from the console playerbase not playing your game.
>That's like if Tekken had Link in it but they didn't put it on the Switch. There goes all those dlc sales from the console playerbase not playing your game.
Not him but we the frick are you even talking about?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not a direct comparison but remember how shit Strikers sold on PC? It's directly related to PC players not having Persona 5. I don't doubt that Joker sold a lot just because the character himself is popular but when P5S wasn't a Switch port the people who bought the character felt massively cucked. Nobody cares that he "advertised Smash." They wanted the full package of having access to the game the character is from and the Smash inclusion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's not a direct comparison but remember how shit Strikers sold on PC? It's directly related to PC players not having Persona 5
homie, what you're saying has no relevance to the conversation at all. >but when P5S wasn't a Switch port the people who bought the character felt massively cucked.
Are you projecting now or something? Because the people who bought the character were already happy because Joker got in. Do you think they were upset because you can't comprehend people owning multiple systems or something?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>homie, what you're saying has no relevance to the conversation at all.
It has complete relevance moron. It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead since it was the only Smash inclusion from a game series you can't play on Switch. >Do you think they were upset because you can't comprehend people owning multiple systems or something?
They literally were. There was nonstop coping and goldfacing and people being told "just buy a PS4 already" even though the the game they're playing isn't on the PS4. It was the exact opposite of your "nobody was upset everyone owns a ps4 already" historical revisionism. I don't even need to show examples, just look at the P4S announcement threads.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It has complete relevance
No it fricking doesn't. You have no idea what you're fricking talking about and this is the proof >It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead since it was the only Smash inclusion from a game series you can't play on Switch.
For one there are several persona games on Nintendo systems along with the other megaten titles.
Two, p5 not being on switch should have hammered it into your head that the objective was to appeal to the persona players and not get smash players to play persona. If you feel like it was a p5 advertisement then that's on you. >There was nonstop coping and goldfacing and people being told "just buy a PS4 already"
There's ALWAYS goldfaces and coping over Nintendo because Ganker is an anti Nintendo shithole that wants to push the narrative that tendies don't have multiple systems which blew up in their face because every single twitter begger an anti-tendie would post had already played it on ps4. >I don't even need to show examples, just look at the P4S announcement threads.
Yes you do, not for my sake but because you clearly don't remember what happened between Joker's release and then.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because you clearly don't remember what happened between Joker's release and then.
That period was genuinely hilarious. Sonygays were non stop shitposting about persona because they were scared of the potential for a port.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No it fricking doesn't. You have no idea what you're fricking talking about and this is the proof
Great argument. >For one there are several persona games on Nintendo systems along with the other megaten titles.
All spinoffs lol. Imagine thinking being thrown some bones equates to being a legitimate Nintendo third party rep. > Ganker is an anti Nintendo shithole
What kind of schizo victim complex is this lol? This place is called Gankertendogaf for a reason. This board has the most diehard cultists ever. You can't even criticize Nintendo without people immediately assuming you're a Sony fan. >wants to push the narrative that tendies don't have multiple systems which blew up in their face because every single twitter begger an anti-tendie would post had already played it on ps4.
Literally making up fake boogeymen who live in your schizo mind lol. I witnessed people irl who were upset about no P5 port. And yes, Switch owners owning multiple systems is the norm and no secret but lots of people don't own a PS4 moron. >Yes you do, not for my sake but because you clearly don't remember what happened between Joker's release and then.
Not at all. Just because you're a schizophrenic moron who thinks Ganker is somehow "anti-Nintendo" doesn't mean that the sky is green. Fricking loser.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Great argument.
Are you moronic? Why would you say this as if the argument didn't occur AFTER that point? >All spinoffs lol.
Now this is a complete non argument, an entry in a series is an entry regardless of what you believe. >This place is called Gankertendogaf for a reason.
This place is called Gankertendogaf because anti-tendies were butthurt we repurposed neoGanker to refer to the NeoGAF environment they built after 2013. >You can't even criticize Nintendo without people immediately assuming you're a Sony fan.
Literally the exact opposite. Any time Sony does something stupid or a state of play is disappointing people will defend them by screaming tendie. Hell it still happens in mh threads when talking about World when there's literally no reason for it anymore. >I witnessed people irl who were upset about no P5 port.
Yeah and I saw 50 ps4's flying out of an apartment complex when p5 was announced for pc and xbox. Do you see how worthless anecdotal evidence is?
Meanwhile in archives, twitter, YouTube everywhere no one gave a shit except for people who already had persona and didn't even have switches. >Not at all
There you have it, you admit you didn't remember.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Are you moronic? Why would you say this as if the argument didn't occur AFTER that point?
Great argument. >Now this is a complete non argument, an entry in a series is an entry regardless of what you believe.
Only Smash inclusion without a mainline entry on a Nintendo console. Cope. >This place is called Gankertendogaf because anti-tendies were butthurt we repurposed neoGanker to refer to the NeoGAF environment they built after 2013.
Nice schizo fanfiction. >Literally the exact opposite. Any time Sony does something stupid or a state of play is disappointing people will defend them by screaming tendie.
Complete disassociation with reality. This board HATES Sony more than anything else. You cannot make a Playstation/PS5 thread without instant trolling. Polls and instances of brand specific insults confirm this as well. >Hell it still happens in mh threads when talking about World when there's literally no reason for it anymore.
Horrible comparison. >Meanwhile in archives, twitter, YouTube everywhere no one gave a shit except for people who already had persona and didn't even have switches.
Archives will show you #BreakFreePersona, the P5S raging. Thinking this was entirely orchestrated as outrage by Sony fans is peak Q-anon tier dementia. >There you have it, you admit you didn't remember.
You can't even process reality lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>This board HATES Sony more than anything else.
NTA but this board will unconditionally defend Sony. Just look at how many people claimed and continue to claim that the pedo working there was fake.
Or the people trying to justify Sony using inferior PAL versions of games for their premium classics service because of language optiins >or people trying to justify $70 games because Sony's devs need the money.
This place treats them like golden gods.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NTA but this board will unconditionally defend Sony. Just look at how many people claimed and continue to claim that the pedo working there was fake. >Or the people trying to justify Sony using inferior PAL versions of games for their premium classics service because of language optiins
5 people claiming bullshit doesn't make up the majority of Ganker. This board loathes Sony and denying that is denying reality. The Snoy trolls stopped posting in threads altogether because they're too busy doomposting and screaming at Jim Ryan on Twitter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>5 people claiming bullshit doesn't make up the majority of Ganker.
The issue is that its not 5 people, its the majority of the board the worst part is that when questioned they'll, out of the blue, mention owning a switch as if it justifies their defence because they believe everyone else is Nintendo aligned. >This board loathes Sony and denying that is denying reality.
No, not at all. If you want to see loathing just look at how people treat Nintendo here. Hell, the DxM players were driven off to /m/ because of all the anti Nintendo shitposting when it released.
If this board hated Sony and it was in the minority they would have been driven off years ago.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> its the majority of the board
When the most insulted brand on the board is Sony as evidenced by polls and statistics threads easily found in the archives, denying that Sony is the most hated brand on this board is complete disassociation with reality. I don't argue with people who deny water is wet. Goodbye.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>When the most insulted brand on the board is Sony as evidenced by polls and statistics threads easily found in the archives
Anon, there's a poll regarding the worst fanbase once in a blue moon and all it proves is that the Sony playerbase here is almost equal to the combined Nintendo, pc and xbox playerbase here. >denying that Sony is the most hated brand on this board is complete disassociation with reality if that were true you'd be able to find more sony shitposting than Nintendo shitposting at this very moment.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Archives will show you #BreakFreePersona,
Shitposting just doesn't exist as a concept to you does it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was a legitimate hashtag and people were responding to even Atlus Twitter post with it. It wasnt a Ganker shitpost thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was a snoy shitposting thing
2 years ago
Anonymous
It wasn't. Legitimate Switch owners and Persona fans were asking for it. Take your meds loser.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Take your pills troon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, it was a real thing.
On twitter, among people who had already played persona on ps4 which is what this anon,
That was a legitimate hashtag and people were responding to even Atlus Twitter post with it. It wasnt a Ganker shitpost thing.
doesn't understand.
On Ganker people were using it purely to falseflag and I'm willing to bet that anon is one of those people since he's using the same defences and revisionism
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah snoy are pure cancer
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead
Not him but Sora was a blatant advertisement, it coincided with the announcement of the cloud versions and that rythym game coming to switch.
Joker was added to get persona fans to buy the game, same with Tekken fans and Kazuya, Rare fans and Banjo, DQ fans and Hero and FF7 fans and Sephiroth.
All of them coincided with boosted smash sales while their original games saw nothing from it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fair enough but at least for all of those franchises there existed at least one mainline entry on a Nintendo console, let alone the Switch. Banjo was the closest example to Persona's case but at least the Switch online ports got put out relatively close to the Banjo Switch announcement. With Persona it was just radio silence and spinoffs for years now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but at least for all of those franchises there existed at least one mainline entry on a Nintendo console,
Mainline Tekken has never been on a Nintendo system.
In fact there have been more Persona games on Nintendo systems than Tekken >Q >Q2 >arena Ultimax >strikers
Bonus blazblue as well
Vs >Tekken 3d >tag 2 >advance
The last Tekken game on a Nintendo system is nearing 10 years old while Strikers was two years ago.
But no one cares about Kazuya because because he can't be used as shitposting material since the Tekken fanbase isn't as pathetic as the persona fanbase which people can use to shitpost about tendies.
>Persona 5 Royal LITERALLY can't be ported to switch
Persona isn't even as graphically intensive TMS. I mean it's literally fricking shovelware Atlus scooped out of their ass in five minutes.
>The game existence was partly to update all their demon models to make the real shovelware.
That was why they made Dx2.
Persona was a shovelware title to shove on ps3 and 4 to take advantage of the major drought at the time.
Yeah but they don't allow them to use the models on the games, that's why every game reuses the same persona 5 demons with 2 or 3 new models for the kaneko ones
SMTV doesn't have any of the Dx2 models, sadly. Pretty much every Dx2 model made in the past 3 years is of higher quality than the stuff Atlus shat out for SMTV.
>It's a PS3 game.
The base P5 game was. It's PS4 version already had 3d models that were touched up beyond what the PS3 could support. P5 Royal pushed that further with more graphical updates. All the demons/shadows had another round of updates switching to richer models with higher polycounts. Numerous parts of the palace and urban environments were touched up with higher res textures and models. It has larger crowds of people swarming the cities than the PS3 version could support. Etc.
It's not really noticeable at first, but if you know what you're looking for, it's there. And Atlus being Atlus, they'd be too lazy to backport the stuff from Royal back to base P5 levels so it could run on the Switch. They aren't SquareEnix who literally set out to decimate the quality of the entire contents of DQ11 to placate Switch hardware; and then added extras to allow it to be called a 'definitive editiion' and not lose face entirely in the process. (Which fyi; they still did in the end, when backporting that fricked up version to other platforms again.)
>And Atlus being Atlus, they'd be too lazy to backport the stuff from Royal back to base P5 levels so it could run on the Switch.
Atlus being Atlus they would port vanilla P5 and call it a day. That would be hilarious, the version of P4 with extra content that people prefer, the version of P3 with extra content that people hate and vanilla P5, Atlus would totally do something like that.
>Persona 5 Royal LITERALLY can't be ported to switch,
it LITERALLY can though.
Or are you really that dumb to believe that No Man's Sky, Doom Eternal, Witcher 3 and others are less graphic demanding than a JRPG like P5R?
There are also lots of games it can't run worth a frick, like Rune Factory 5. It really depends on the game, PS5, Xbox XS are all so powerful they can make poorly coded games look and run great but Switch needs good code. Judging by how SMTV runs on Switch and how it took them 5 years to finally release it exclusively for Switch I would guess Atlus writes shitty code.
No; it was an Atlus game. THAT's why it ran like ass. They usually do. It's just that the assets are low fidelity enough that on any decent hardware even dating back to the previous decade, it'll still carry enough oomph to power through the muck and function properly. Sadly, that terminally excludes any Nintendo hardware which is more like 2 to 2.5 generations behind the curve.
Man witcher 3 looks like a PS2 game on the switch, not to mention the 240p resolution just to barely get 20 fps. It's just now worth it because tendies don't buy megaten anyways.
It's still impressive how much they managed to squeeze out of Switch with that port
I admit though, launching TW3 on Switch and on Steam Deck side-by-side was hilarious
You keep deflecting and changing the subject. The Switch is more than capable of running P5R, for it has already run games graphically comparable or even more demanding than it. It has even run a game using the exact same engine.
Game length doesn't mean anything, performance-wise. At most it affects the file size of the game, which Atlus could get around a number of ways. They could even pull an Activision and require a download for the bulk of the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It takes too much effort and therefore money to optimize a game for the switch. The market just isn't there. Look at strikers, it sold the worst at switch.
One unconfortable truth is that SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive, let alone multiplat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
SMTV sold better than mainline SMT ever sold on PlayStation. Given PS's current state in Japan, it'd have flopped hard if it released there. Come on, at least try and be realistic with your bullshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And this was the PS2's heyday with more Japanese and weeb PS owners than ever. Yet they want to pretend SMT5 is some massive fail, when it's actually the best selling of the series.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>SMTV sold better than mainline SMT ever sold on PlayStation
Indigenous homosexual, only nocturne counts as mainline and it came out when megaten as a whole wasn't known in the west at all. Another unconfortable truth is that SMTV sold as much thanks to Persona 5 popularizing the franchise. Same can be said about SMTIV and Persona 4. Nocturne didn't have its own big persona success.
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol snoy doesn't even know how to type "disingenuous." Also SMT was well established in Japan when Nocturne released there, and V still outsold it in Japan. So your western argument doesn't hold water at all.
Mainline SMT sells worse than Persona, that's always how it's been and if you've actually been in MegaTen threads you'd know the SMTgays seethe endlessly over Persona's popularity.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We'll find out when the PS4 version and PC version releases.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd suggest you temper your expectations, late ports generally sell less than the original release.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Comparing og Nocturne to V
Indigenous, plain indigenous.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>and if you've actually been in MegaTen threads you'd know the SMTgays seethe endlessly over Persona's popularity.
And you're calling him a snoy?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It'd be pretty dishonest to deny the existence of infighting within the MegaTen fanbase.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really because it would be the truth.
All the "infighting" is one sided in that the persona fanbase think they're being attacked when no one gives a shit.
Hell the closest thing to legitimate infighting is that one anon who believes SJ is mainline and alwats posts that stupid box
2 years ago
Anonymous
I have seen SMTgays shit on Personagays countless times for being more casual, so I don't know what the frick you're on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I have seen SMTgays shit on Personagays countless times for being more casual
Right.
Extremely unlikely given the slim contact the two tend to have with each other.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure. Just like how it's TOTALLY unlikely that Nintendo and Playstation fanboys would ever interact.
The two franchises share a developer and one's rooted in the other, it's only natural that fans of both mingle every now and then.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Just like how it's TOTALLY unlikely that Nintendo and Playstation fanboys would ever interact.
Yes. The latter tends to imagine interactions with the former and thus thread is evidence of that.
>it's only natural that fans of both mingle every now and then.
No, not at all. Look at the Platinum developed games for instance, there's almost no overlap between Bayo, Nier Automata and Astral Chain. In fact Lappy appearing in the Bayo trailer was the first overlap between the two fanbases.
Sharing developers/owners doesn't necessarily mean that fanbases intermingle some like smash and FE hate each other.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the playstation fanboys exist only in your head. nintendo fans are schizophrenic. seek help.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This but sony fanboys
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you gonna now say that everyone who uses common insults is all actually the same guy, but it's actually the sony fans who are schizo?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why would I do those things?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Love how you're just ignoring the point about one franchise being spawned from the other. But then you've decided to hinge your entire argument on the idea that Personagays and SMTgays never interact(lol) to try and prove the point that SMTV's sales are somehow bad.
Might as well point out that they're also in the same genre, both being turn based JRPGs and all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Love how you're just ignoring the point about one franchise being spawned from the other
Because its pointless. Nier came from Drakengard but you barely hear talk of it, pokemon game players don't talk about the tcg, then there's again smash and just about every series in it.
The problem here is that you can't comprehend the idea of there being separate groups for each subject.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nier came from Drakengard but you barely hear talk of it
It still comes up and the earliest Nier fans came from the Drakengard fandom. >pokemon game players don't talk about the tcg
lol
lmao even
How can someone be this wrong? >The problem here is that you can't comprehend the idea of there being separate groups for each subject.
No, you just want to deny the existence of overlap and infighting that have existed for years on this board.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It still comes up
Yes, rarely, that's the point. >How can someone be this wrong?
By being correct? The tcg and game communities are separate groups. >No, you just want to deny the existence of overlap and infighting
Yeah, because there's zero evidence. As someone who frequents both persona and smt threads it's exceedingly rare to see infighting that isn't just some console war fanboy and usually it ends quickly with five people calling him a moron for calling persona smt.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yes, rarely, that's the point.
Those two series are directly linked in the same franchise you idiot. >By being correct? The tcg and game communities are separate groups.
Most TCG players get into it because they're already fans of the games. There's massive overlap between the two groups, you're out of your fricking mind for thinking otherwise. >Yeah, because there's zero evidence. As someone who frequents both persona and smt threads it's exceedingly rare to see infighting that isn't just some console war fanboy and usually it ends quickly with five people calling him a moron for calling persona smt.
I see it all the time, and I've seen it for years. There's always one homosexual who speaks up about the petty rivalry between the series.
You're denying reality and making asinine arguments in a vain, roundabout attempt to prove SMTV flopped somehow and it's really sad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's always one homosexual who speaks up about the petty rivalry between the series.
Like you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Those two series are directly linked in the same franchise you idiot.
Yes and they're rarely brought up, again, that's the point.
Please pay attention. >Most TCG players get into it because they're already fans of the games
You're missing the entire point, it doesn't matter how they get into it, it's the fact that there's very little overlap between tcg players and game players where discussion is concerned much like persona and smt. >I see it all the time
Yes you've said that multiple times now but anecdotal evidence doesn't change anything. >There's always one homosexual who speaks up about the petty rivalry between the series.
Anon, you're the one who brought it up, if you're seeing it despite the rarity then the only logical conclusion is that you're the one behind it.
>You're denying reality and making asinine arguments in a vain, roundabout attempt to prove SMTV flopped somehow and it's really sad.
What on earth are you talking about? I'm not trying to say it flopped just that the two fanbases rarely interact.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Indigenous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive
That would make its sales comparable to Persona 5, which doesn't make sense.
We all know Persona is way more popular than SMT.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>One unconfortable truth is that SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive, let alone multiplat.
Anon, smt 3 sold less ps4 than it did in switch. Not to mention being on ps4 would mean less advertising.
It would have actually flopped.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>smt 3 sold less ps4 than it did in switch
That's because Sonychads already played nocturne decades ago.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No its because they were too busy play last of us again
2 years ago
Anonymous
>One unconfortable truth is that SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive, let alone multiplat.
How can you say this with a straight face when SMT III HD sold best on Switch? It did okay on PS but PCgays let it bomb miserably like they do with any JRPG that isn't Final Fantasy or Persona.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tendies are just so much more used to remasters, it's not a fair comparison.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Tendies are just so much more used to remasters
There are more remasters and ports on ps4 than switch.
They also tend to sell more than they do on any other platform.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Switch cards can more than handle Persona 5. Their limit is like 32 (and apparently Nintendo is making bigger), and Persona is around 20gb. Probably a helluva lot less without all the 4k sized textures others have. SMT 5 is just 12gb.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh, I'm well aware. I said "a number of ways" because a lot of publishers don't like paying for bigger Switch cards. It's a common complaint.
There's really no excuse not to port P5 to Switch. It's perfectly possible and the demand is there. There wouldn't be years of portbegging if demand wasn't there. But snoys try to spin every single narrative they can for why there's no port, all to make their platform look better.
They don't care how it looks they just want to have it, it's all about HAVING the game, not actually playing it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tendies hate videogames, it's the most important factor in being a tendie after all
2 years ago
Anonymous
What a strange thing to say. It's almost purely games on Nintendo platforms. Not movieshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nintendo holds back the entire gaming industry. Tendies want games to be worse just because they're selfish and can't handle it when a game is too advanced to run on their crappy hardware.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You sound a bit unhinged.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What does that have to do with actual game design? Graphics don't make a good game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shit graphics make a shit game
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine defending 240p, 12fps graphics in 2022. This is what the cult of nintendo does to your brain. The rest of the industry has moved on to 4k, 120fps, and nintendo can't get 360p down without dips yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The rest of the industry has moved on to 4k, 120fps,
The issue is that the industry isn't ready for it. Look at how little games are coming out since the PS5 and xsx came out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do people actually care about 4k? I get fps because that also affects how responsive the control feels and fps drops suck ass, but all the fancy graphics shit feels unnecessary. I played the Jak and Daxter decomp and it looked perfectly fine to me. I'd rather they use the technology for something interesting instead of adding a bunch of useless graphical effects that don't really change how the game plays.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Do people actually care about 4k?
Children do because "muh big numbuh" but otherwise stable performance is key.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No one sane cares about graphics anymore if they ever did, on the PS4 we already were able to see characters pores, what more do graphicsgays want?
2 years ago
Anonymous
We've hit diminishing returns with graphics. 1080p has always been fine, but people don't really realize that because consoles were still spanning anywhere between 800p and 1080p
2 years ago
Anonymous
I have an SX, but I'd still be happy with the S. 4K is a meme and tougher to get 60fps with. 1080p has always been a workable tradeoff.
Besides, don't competitive pros still use 1080p a lot?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Let's imagine for a moment, you buy a book. Now, I know anyone with a reading level above 4th grade wouldn't be a tendie in the first place, but I digress, it's just a thought experiment. This book is completely fricked, the font size changes randomly between lines, the lines aren't straight, sometimes they overlap and you can't make out the letters, there are pages missing, pages out of order, massive ink splashes that make entire sections illegible. You return it and get a new copy. Surprisingly, it's defective in all the exact same ways. You go online, complaining about this, and then you have a million absolute zealots claim that "readability doesn't matter, only authorial intent!"
This is what you sound like when you say that graphics don't matter at all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, but it isn't even that bad. You're just going overboard with the analogy.
Artwork matters though. Just not graphics necessarily. You can pull off iconic designs without it - and Nintendo are masters at it. Some in the West weren't too shabby themselves (like Blizzard). But if you don't have an actual well designed game, none of this matters either.
2 years ago
Anonymous
About that. In this situation it's more the book is completely legible, absolutely nothing is wrong with it but people complain about it because they can't see the lines of pixels on the print.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>nintendo games >legible
2 years ago
Anonymous
Right I forgot. Moat anti-tendies are Brazilian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you're describing the average Bethesda game, don't know what that has to do with Nintendo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
God don't talk to me about Bethesda games. I spent like an hour trying to fix the Alduin's Bane quest because he wouldn't show up in the past.
The worst part was that I was playing on ps4 so I couldn't exactly use console commands.
2 years ago
Anonymous
FRICKING THANK YOU
You can have a shit game with good graphics, but you can't have a good game with shit graphics
2 years ago
Anonymous
And now you know why we look at you kids like like you're the physical embodiment of cancer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That doesn't make sense at all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How? Are you moronic?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Think about what you said and how you define good graphics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but you can't have a good game with shit graphics
Of course you fricking can. The best games in the history of gaming have never been graphical powerhouses and often have unique styles to make up for the visuals.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"muh style" is the oldest cope in the book, ever since playstation got things like resident evil while N64 was stuck with BING BING WAHOO
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ever since playstation got things like resident evil while N64 was stuck with BING BING WAHOO
Imagine still thinking this is a console war thing and not just common sense. There's a reason why games like Metal Slug are at the zenith of visual flair while games like tlou are gutter trash.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>tendie is still salty is smear campaign against the last of us part 2 failed and it went on to sell over 10 million copies
KEK
2 years ago
Anonymous
>snoy continues to double down on a shitty argument because he's seething at nintendo again
2 years ago
Anonymous
You lost
2 years ago
Anonymous
And yet...
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are you posting selfies, tendie?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Any reason why you stopped replying to neogeo anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>neogeo game >ported to every system imaginable >still going for the tendie angle >unironically arguing sales in a graphics conversation
How are you not getting this? Did Nintendo really break you to the extent where you see everything that isn't Sony as Nintendo?
Grow up and get some standards, once you realise 4k doesn't make a game inherently look good you'll thank me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>book analogy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, I know tendies are too moronic to read, or they wouldn't be tendies in the first place, I mentioned that
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stealing this one for the future, never seen such a perfect analogy
2 years ago
Anonymous
if you can't even fricking see what's happening on the screen, it's either a shit game, shit hardware, or both. take your pick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shhh, tendies don't respond well to logic
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if you can't even fricking see what's happening on the screen
I can see it just fine but I'm also not legally blind.
2 years ago
Anonymous
shit like pic related is unacceptable in a visual medium and only nintendo gets away with it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oink oink
2 years ago
Anonymous
>in the process of loading textures
(You)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nintendo holds back the entire gaming industry
Nah, Nintendo sets the bar for the industry in terms of game quality and diverse content, it's Sony and Microsoft that hold the industry back by pushing out hardware developers aren't ready for which forces them not only to downsize the scope of their games but also brute force functionality using the power of v the system. This also creates a lot of crunch and profit thresholds that can't be hit even with 5m sales which normally would be fantastic
Tendies are too moronic to understand >costs of money and time for porting
To get anything ported to Switch is impossible if you want silky smooth 30 fps with 720p. You always have to make a game look like shit to make it barely playable on the Switch and sometimes even do a "Witcher 3", where you more or less just cut content in such a way that the whole immersion is gone because of assets are simply not displayable. >supporting your game with patches after release
Again, the toaster is not like Steam where you can just drop it randomly without any charges. Releasing a patch for the toaster costs insane amounts of money and other shit before you are allowed to publish the patch. >the engine and other obstacles like the literal toaster hardware
Porting is not like pushing a button. At worse your game can soft lock in the middle of the game. It's nearly impossible to port anything to a toaster without insane amount of wasted time. >potential sales
Tendies don't buy Atlus games >other stuff like personal relationship
There are rumors that Nintendo was not behaving very "Japanese" when they saw the disappointing SMT5 sales. Atlus seems like their retaliate for getting blamed that Tendies don't buy Atlus games.
>homie, what you're saying has no relevance to the conversation at all.
It has complete relevance moron. It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead since it was the only Smash inclusion from a game series you can't play on Switch. >Do you think they were upset because you can't comprehend people owning multiple systems or something?
They literally were. There was nonstop coping and goldfacing and people being told "just buy a PS4 already" even though the the game they're playing isn't on the PS4. It was the exact opposite of your "nobody was upset everyone owns a ps4 already" historical revisionism. I don't even need to show examples, just look at the P4S announcement threads.
>It has complete relevance
No it fricking doesn't. You have no idea what you're fricking talking about and this is the proof >It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead since it was the only Smash inclusion from a game series you can't play on Switch.
For one there are several persona games on Nintendo systems along with the other megaten titles.
Two, p5 not being on switch should have hammered it into your head that the objective was to appeal to the persona players and not get smash players to play persona. If you feel like it was a p5 advertisement then that's on you. >There was nonstop coping and goldfacing and people being told "just buy a PS4 already"
There's ALWAYS goldfaces and coping over Nintendo because Ganker is an anti Nintendo shithole that wants to push the narrative that tendies don't have multiple systems which blew up in their face because every single twitter begger an anti-tendie would post had already played it on ps4. >I don't even need to show examples, just look at the P4S announcement threads.
Yes you do, not for my sake but because you clearly don't remember what happened between Joker's release and then.
>literally says shin megami tensei on the cover >acksually it doesn't count because I said so
2 years ago
Anonymous
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I don't even know what's that supposed to mean.
2 years ago
Anonymous
GOOGLE DOES IT AGIAN :DDD
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Megami Ibunroku Persona >not even Megaten
2 years ago
Anonymous
KOREAN AND DOG DO NOT ENTER
2 years ago
Anonymous
See
>Are you talking about the disingenious famitsu charts, which purposefully omit digital and amazon sales, sony's two biggest markets, in favor of physical retail store sales, "coincidentally" the one market nintendo does better in?
It's also the highest costing one yet. It would be insanely bad if it wasn't the best selling one. That was already a given especially considering smt sales have always been mediocre. The cost to make smt v was probably more than all the smt games before it combined lmao
>It's also the highest costing one yet.
That would most likely be 3 actually since they actually had to make every demon in the game rather than reusing most of them like 5 did
>P5R is confirmed to run under the same engine that was used for Catherine Full Body >a game that is already available on the Switch, including a physical release
It literally can. What salami-eyed consolewars homosexuals are unaware of and what baiting weasels willingly ignore is that developers might actively choose to shelve ports and features just because they simply do not care enough to pursue a monetary game out of it. That's why EA ports the exact same Fifa game to the Switch with an updated roster instead of making a game from the ground-up like the other competitors do, or why for select gaming collections you literally get part of the game on the disc/cart and you have to download the rest online, defeating the purpose of a physical version. It's not just om Switch either, it happens elsewhere, too!
I still have not scrolled down the thread, but I'm already anticipating morons bringing up the PS3 Kingdom Hearts collections' cloud versions, these port-flaming threads are basically required these simpletons in order to reach triple-digit threads by this point.
You're missing the point anon, no one wants it on switch to play it but to see the Sony fanbase collectively flip their shit if it happens.
Not being on Nintendo systems was the last thing they had as a defence for the game.
Soul Hackers 2 seems to be running on the same engine as Persona 5, so if P5 does make it onto the Switch that probably means Soul Hackers 2 will follow, it just might take an extra year or two after the PS/Xbox launch.
Correction >Option A: It doesn't come and nothing happens >Option B: It does come and the fanboys seethe uncontrollably and completely abandon the idea of it being a good game.
Those types of people don't actually exist. The people who "portbeg" are either
1) shitposters here like OP
2) people who already played it but wanted persona to justify buying a switch.
Yes.
There was one guy that used to be posted around as an "example" of a "tendie" begging for persona 5 calling everything in that 2020 direct with smt 3 persona but it turned out he had a full play through of persona 5 on his channel.
God I can't even remember his name, Gomess? Gomark? Something along those lines, either way it was hilarious.
But I digress, the point is that the persona fanbase truly is that moronic
2 years ago
Anonymous
morons still don't get that the biggest selling point for the Switch is that it's a fricking portable. >oh but muh steam dick
The Steam Deck fricking sucks as a portable handheld device.
The Nintendo Switch is: >much smaller and thinner than the steam deck >has the same screen size and resolution as the deck >has a OLED screen which is much better than the deck's shit IPS screen >has much better battery life than the deck >has a larger library than the steam deck in terms of actual compatible games
Fat fricks that stay inside all day can't understand why you'd want to play games on a handheld device that is actually portable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's also worth noting that before p5 the best selling game was p4g on vita with about 1.2m. A not insignificant amount of players started playing the game on a portable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>comparing 1.2 million to the over 7 million 5 has sold
Shitch lost
2 years ago
Anonymous
1.2m on the fricking Vita is a very impressive number you drooling moron.
> Option C: It does come, but it's the base Persona 5 as originally issued for the PS3
Because that actually falls within the spec range that's viable for the Switch and Atlus being Atlus was too lazy to backport the enhancements from Royal to that version. I mean; let's be honest here, this - Atlus being lazy Atlus - is why they ported P3P to modern systems instead of P3:FES with the enhancements for combat from P3P, after all.
Switch users having to be content with base Persona 5 would probably result in the most delicious seethe of them all.
The consolation-prize seethe, with a sideline of cope.
>Because that actually falls within the spec range that's viable for the Switch and Atlus being Atlus was too lazy to backport the enhancements from Royal to that version.
No, that's an impossibility. Atlus basically destroys the original when the new ones come out, just look at TMS and Catherine
>240p >12 fps
This is while docked, handheld is even worse. If you call that "running", you're moronic, but that explains why you're anintendo cultist in the first place.
4K is pretty much the standard now. At any rate it's well above 1080p even if it's not real 4K, aliasing pretty much doesn't exist anymore, and images are crisp
Comparing the Switch running The Witcher 3 at 720p (with dynamic resolution meaning it's usually lower than this) is no contest, the Switch looks like ass. Comparison screens don't even do it justice since they usually have compression artifacts and bilinear filtering which covers up just how poor the image quality is
PooStation doesn't run Witcher 3 at 4K
Either get an Xbox or a PC if you want 4K
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even if we're talking about the original PS4 (I wasn't), it's still loads better than the Switch. You'd have to have an incredibly old shitty TV not to be able to see the difference in clarity
2 years ago
Anonymous
Man the PS4 is so low res...
That was such an underpowered console.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Piss4 Protato nor PS5 run Witcher 3 at 4K, try again
2 years ago
Anonymous
there's a difference between "not at 4k" and "worse than a potato-quality youtube video from 2006."
>Comparison screens don't even do it justice
Most Switch comparisons are incredibly disingenuous. This picture, for instance, has a vertical resolution of 648, meaning both images have been downsampled heavily. Of course you will lose all of the benefits that higher resolutions provide when you show a shitty image like this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tendies lie, it's all they do. They lie to others to get people to try out a shitch, they lie to themselves and pretend they're enjoying their shitch. Everything they say is a lie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
These images look pretty much the same anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
The point was that it's a bad image, unless your intent is deceiving people into believing the PS4 and Switch versions look even remotely similar.
This one is far more accurate of what to expect:
Even if we're talking about the original PS4 (I wasn't), it's still loads better than the Switch. You'd have to have an incredibly old shitty TV not to be able to see the difference in clarity
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol get out of here console peasant...
2 years ago
Anonymous
PC still has tiling textures. LOL so much for your $4000 graphics card.
>KH all the way up to and including 3 could easily be ported to Switch >KH3 ported to Switch
And the battery is going to flatline in three... two... one...
Oh wait no; no. Sorry folks, that's the GPU which just caught fire. Must've had a meltdown.
>240p >12 fps
This is while docked, handheld is even worse. If you call that "running", you're moronic, but that explains why you're anintendo cultist in the first place.
That doesn;t count as "running" those games
>shitch
uh oh eric thread everyone, eric thread everyone!
You are mentally ill and obsessed with a boogeyman that doesn't exist.
I'm tired of being a nintie and I want to buy an actual console. Which one would you recommend me? The ps5 or Xbox? Note that I don't care about games like uncharted or last of us.
>I'm tired of being a nintie and I want to buy an actual console. Which one would you recommend me? >Note that I don't care about games like uncharted or last of us >PC is out of the question sadly
A switch.
>Find me a pc for $400 or under that's more powerful than a ps5
As soon as you can find a ps5 for 400 that's stronger than the average pc.
The fricking thing can barely match a 1060 let alone more recent cards
>The fricking thing can barely match a 1060 let alone more recent cards
Dude, I hate Sony, but you're talking out of your ass now. More like a 2060. And it'll even run things like Cyberpunk better than that 2060 because PC devs are lazy fricks who use dlss as a crutch. Consoles still get more optimized in this day and age. On top of it having a PCIe gen4 SSD, which isn't on cheap PCs.
He's right though. The most popular PC GPU (according to Steam surveys, THE largest study of survey of this kind) is STILL GTX1060 paired with a 4C/8T CPU
Why are tendies so obsessed with this eric dude? Literally anyone who uses an extremely common insult for the switch gets accused of secretly being him. According to them, anyone who calls it the "shitch" has to be one dude, and it can't be because it's a witty insult that people will naturally pick up on because it aptly describes the absolute state of modern nintendo hardware.
>Project Re:Fantasy was announced 6 years ago yet has had no new info >Etrian Odyssey was said to not be done just because the 3DS reached the end of the line, but there have been no further announcements >SMT V took forever to come out >Persona milking continues
FATLUS
>It's a matter of "will", and Atlus has simply reasoned that there's no reason to port Persona to Switch.
Here's the thing, they're probably going to do it but it won't payout for them because it's been years since the persona fanbase stopped asking for another portable game.
>From the team that brought you Etrian Odyssey, the popular Persona Q and Persona Q2 is now coming to the Nintendo Switch.
There's your Switch Persona announcement.
>TWEWY is on Switch and that's best played with 2 screens and a stylus
Different situation anon. They remade the entire game for mobiles and then ported that version over to switch.
If you remake Q or any of the Etrian games to remove the touch screen elements you remove the unique part of the game.
>2017 - "t-this time for sure!" >2018 - "t-this time for sure!" >2019 - "t-this time for sure!" >2020 - "t-this time for sure!" >2021 - "t-this time for sure!" >2022 - "t-this time for sure!"
hate to break it to you but there was no meltdown Unless you're referring to the image where everyone was mocking sonygays by saying p5 would go to every platform under the sun including android purely because the idea caused them. Severe butthurt
You can play it on pc, ps5, and xbox. You can stream it on your phone from your computer or console. Why would you care for a 5 year old game to be on the switch? It's a hundred hour jrpg. Why would you play this on the go?!?
Personally I don't want it on switch to buy it, I want it on switch so I can actually fricking talk about it without some dipshit saying I'm a tendie because I didn't like some minor aspect.
same reason other jrpgs are building up on the switch. sony is dead. xbox is mostly dudebros and hillbillies and pc is third worlders who don't buy shit. someone needs to hold up the weeb flag and it isn't going to be those Black folk.
Personally it's to spite Sony after fricking me over.
I honestly can't see any fault in these reasons.
As someone who loves MH and wanted MHW threads to be chill I know all too well how bad the Sony fanbase can be when they get scraps.
No, I mean when the Sony fanbase finally got their first mh game in several years and immediately used it to shitpost about a nonexistent boogeyman and when they started losing attention on that front they created a falseflag called listgay that compiled the complaints the mh fans had with World into a single copy pasta and spammed it across every thread at the time and when the attention from that faded they created a reddit account called Valkyboi and linked it the same day it was made purely to try and connect listgay to tendies.
But of course it failed and listgay was put to rest.
Until Rise came out and then he made 3 webms for rise with all of the UI elements on screaming about how bad the game is in an attempt to bring down the threads but no one gave him attention to begin with.
Why do snoys always fabricate lies and go out of their way to shitpost and dox themselves while tendies remain calm and cool, stay in their lane and enjoy life?
same reason other jrpgs are building up on the switch. sony is dead. xbox is mostly dudebros and hillbillies and pc is third worlders who don't buy shit. someone needs to hold up the weeb flag and it isn't going to be those Black folk.
>over 50% higher sales YOY >"massively down"
what level of cope are you on?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I dunno, what level of cope are you on to compare 4 1/2 months of sales to 12 months, an over 150% increase in time being counted, and gloat about a 50% increase in sales?
sony as any kind of japanese heavy company is dead. which is all that matters.
Are you talking about the disingenious famitsu charts, which purposefully omit digital and amazon sales, sony's two biggest markets, in favor of physical retail store sales, "coincidentally" the one market nintendo does better in?
>Are you talking about the disingenious famitsu charts, which purposefully omit digital and amazon sales, sony's two biggest markets, in favor of physical retail store sales, "coincidentally" the one market nintendo does better in?
Not talking about just sales, but content in general. What Sony themselves push. It's over, man. I hate seeing them like this myself, but you gotta face it. They're chasing after other markets.
>which purposefully omit digital and amazon sales, sony's two biggest markets, in favor of physical retail store sales, "coincidentally" the one market nintendo does better in?
I hate to break this to you but Nintendo dominates amazon anyway and the ratio of digital game sales is higher.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at amazon japan wishlists. Ps5 is CONSISTENTLY at the top.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I see no correlation between wish lists and sony's actual reported software sales
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are fricking shortages, moron. Wishlists show what people are actually hyped about when there's a massive shortage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Let me know when that correlation occurs
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's because bots work in wishlists, meanwhile on the bestsellers the first Sony product is at 14 and its a prepaid card.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/bestsellers/videogames
Why do snoys always fabricate lies and go out of their way to shitpost and dox themselves while tendies remain calm and cool, stay in their lane and enjoy life?
Because sonygays are brand loyalists while "tendies" just enjoy video games. It's also why the term tendie has slowly become "someone who doesn't like Sony" rather than someone who likes Nintendo because let's be honest, you're called a tendie for everything nowadays.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>proves that playstation sales are mostly digital
Ok?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The issue is that the digital adoption rate is lower on PlayStation than it is on the switch.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Playstation digital sales are confirmed to be 60% in japan
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, Elden Ring is confirmed 60% digital in Japan and a big chunk of that is from PC.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol, a whole fricking 12 sales on steam. No one plays on pc in japan.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wrong. By the way, digital adoption rate on console is 30% at most in Japan. They're slower to adopt digital distribution than we are over there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's probably what it's like for shitendo. It's confirmed 60% for playstation, and more like 80% in first world countries.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nintendo's digital adoption is roughly 35%.
Sony without ps+ is around 30.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No one plays on pc in japan.
Fortunately pc has been growing as a platform in Japan alongside the decline of Sony.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Source?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's referencing Elden Ring sales in Japan. Bamco announced 1m sales in the region around the time physical sales were at 400k. So because PlayStation is the only platform where it launched physically, the snoys are assuming that ALL of the digital sales for ER are 60%. It's their last cope in a market where their platform is in its death throes.
That's probably what it's like for shitendo. It's confirmed 60% for playstation, and more like 80% in first world countries.
Nope, it's a whole market average. And 30% is being really generous, it's more like 20%.
There is no confirmation that those 60% digital ER sales are on PS, and given trends it's more likely that a large number of of them were from PC. If you do the math and break it down by average: >physical PS 400k >digital PS 200k >PC 400k
That would fit in line with average digital sales on console in the market, in fact that's being exceptionally generous assuming digital makes up 1/3 of the total sales on the platform in the region.
There's also Xbox as a potential factor, but that's lol
Hello Nintendo fans *spreads arms and hands wide open*
It's me Reggie Fils Anime
I really miss my time at Nintendo and being involved in exciting directs such as this one
Persona is not coming to switch
AAA game developer here for a world class studio (SIE), the switch is a piece of shit and can't run these games because it's a piece of shit kids tablet make for kids. It literally cannot run good games even if you tried.
>A-atlus can put p5r on switch if they took the time!
morons! They are literally putting upscaled p3p on modern consoles with nothing else done to it. This is the company that couldn't even be assed to properly port nocturne. Yet you think they are gonna go through the effort for p5r. LMAO
Is it better to play as male MC or female MC in the game? Lorewise i mean because Persona 5 base does not allow you this option. Will it ruin my experience if I play female MC?
You can't be fricking serious right now, please tell me you're at least getting paid for this shilling. You literally need to pay an additional $50 just for a case to keep it from falling apart, and the dock itself breaks it. The only thing the ps5 breaks is sales records.
>You literally need to pay an additional $50 just for a case to keep it from falling apart, and the dock itself breaks it.
But enough about the ps5. We're talking about the switch here anon, the system that can survive water damage and its screen, board and battery being cut into and a 100ft fall.
Are you still quoting that debunked theory that because they upgraded the ps5 with a more efficient heatsink, that it's actually gonna somehow explode due to heat because the heatsink is smaller?
The ps5 revision literally runs cooler than the original
2 years ago
Anonymous
See
>they upgraded the ps5 with a more efficient heatsink
They actually gutted the heatsink so that they would profit more on their console. The heatsink performs worse on the new models but Sony makes more money off of it.
>they upgraded the ps5 with a more efficient heatsink
They actually gutted the heatsink so that they would profit more on their console. The heatsink performs worse on the new models but Sony makes more money off of it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
see
The ps5 revision literally runs cooler than the original
2 years ago
Anonymous
The revised ps5 actually expels less hot air which is why the vents are cooler but the internals are hotter.
The ps5 revision literally runs cooler than the original
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>posts about DEBOOOOONKing >likely referencing the video where the guy decided to claim that the new heatsink is SO efficent it breaks the laws of thermodynamics rather than admit he fricked up when placing his sensors
Kek
Why does anyone give a shit, anyone who wanted to play it already beat it years ago and it has zero replayability because the romances are tacked on 1 scene each at the end of the game, there is no point replaying 60+ hours just to do a different romance
>persona 5 Will never be ported to pc >persona 5 will never be ported to xbox series >persona 5 will never come to gamepass
you are here now >persona 5 will never be ported swtich
tic toc snoyboy
I don't understand why anyone cares. P5 has been out since 2016, it was pretty much the final major PS3 game, a platform from 2006. Its plot is well known, it got an anime that's easily watchable. Like it's been prostituted out so much at this point that GTA V and Skyrim are slightly blushing. I understand people asking for SMT V on another platform, but who the hell cares about P5 at this point?
I do, seeing as I played it on PS4 but later had to move from the platform thanks to overly restrictive content guidelines. Xbox is literally no better and Valve is completely inconsistent with their content policies, so I'd rather give my dollar to Nintendo.
It's a REALLY sad state of affairs when Nintendo of all companies is the least censorious console manufacturer to third parties.
Abortion is no longer a protected right in the United States meaning each state has the right to either allow or criminalize abortion. It will be up to state officials and govenors. prostitutes are finished
I really will be surprised if we don't get P5 on the Switch, the demented shitposter aside there really isn't any reason not to as both games with the same engine (Catherine) and assets (Strikers) are already on the machine. Now if we could just get a Bloodborne PC port I could sell my PS4 and never look back.
I'd really like to keep hoping EO isn't dead, Atlus usually goes radio silent for a long time on new games. But it's really been a long time at this point, the hope is fading.
i won't be surprised if a port comes eventually, but they absolutely aren't making it in secret and about to announce it in the direct like some morons think. some shit tier publishers like MAGES. do that kind of thing for attention but atlus doesn't. P5S and P4U2 were announced for PS4 and switch simultaneously, atlus has no reason to go "lol troled u" and announce they're working on switch ports of all the PS4/xbox games shortly after the initial announcement.
From a market perspective, this makes no sense. Switch has a far greater userbase in Japan than Xbox, yet Atlus chose to port Persona to Xbox instead. I wonder why.
Frick off, snoy.
You've already lost persona, this fake begging is pathetic.
MEDS NOW!
Its the snoys guys. I never wanted it on switch anyways. ;_;
I fricking hate GankerintendoGAF
Then leave
Never gonna happen
I don't doubt it but if you only get P3/4 or no Persona games my sides will be fricking gone. It'll cement the Switch as the ultimate cuck console. Just imagine if Joker in Smash remains an advertisement for a game Switch owners can't play. The absolute fricking state.
This would be incredibly based too bad Microshit gives no fricks about eastern games outside of throwing gamepass bones.
>Just imagine if Joker in Smash remains an advertisement for a game Switch owners can't play.
Well; they got Strikers right?
Which I'm led to believe, runs at an 'entirely acceptable' ~20 FPS with occasional dips.
... docked; that is.
Is Strikers more demanding than P5? You'd think so with the musou enemies adding strain to the cpu side it would be.
Doesn't matter though. P5 is entirely possible on Switch given it ran on the PS3 and would run at an even lower res. Them skipping Switch would be entirely due to their games selling like shit on it.
>Is Strikers more demanding than P5? You'd think so with the musou enemies adding strain to the cpu side it would be.
Strikers uses Musou-like combat mechanics, but it doesn't use Musou crowd-size. 10~30 simultaneous enemies is the norm. They tend to pop out / spawn in as 1 to 3 distinct waves because of it. Might even entirely be a non-voluntary gameplay mechanic that had to be implemented to limit what's on screen at any one time to cater to the Switch platform, because it certainly doesn't matter wrt how fast you tend to slash through them, once you reach a certain break-even point in aptitude and levels.
I think this is just a Strikers thing, other musous on the Switch have normal crowd sizes. They don't run well either, but they run about the same as P5S.
>They don't run well either, but they run about the same as P5S.
Eh, HW1 and the new FE game run pretty smooth. It's just HW:AoC and P5S that run like shit for some reason but that's just Koei.
>Just imagine if Joker in Smash remains an advertisement for a game Switch owners can't play.
I'm pretty sure you can play smash on switch.
Most people don't realise that a character getting into smash isn't an advertisement for their game but for smash.
>Most people don't realise that a character getting into smash isn't an advertisement for their game but for smash.
It's an advertisement only for pokeBlack folk and fire emblem
>third party character gets in
>game doesn't seen increased sales
>smash sales soar as fans of third party series buy smash because their series is now represented
This happens every single time. The only time a series has seen an increase in sales is Xenoblade 2 and that's because nips had the coupon things to use.
>fans of third party series buy smash because their series is now represented
People buying Smash are Nintendo fans.
I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game.
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game.
Have you been living under a rock for 20 years or so?
That's literally what people do with smash.
>That's literally what people do with smash.
Wrong.
People buy Smash because they like Nintendo (and Smash).
Not an argument.
>People buy Smash because they like Nintendo (and Smash).
Your naivety is astounding. Like this anon said
this is a fighting game. Someone's main getting in can make it break a purchase and with smash that extends to third parties that serve to sell the game to that group rather than selling the game they came from to switch owners.
That's an absolute minority of people who play smash. Probably less than 2%
>That's an absolute minority of people who play smash.
Anon, this isn't a smash thing, that's how people see fighters in general. From core to casual people buy them for that one specific character that they like. For example if say, Juri were to skip the next SF game they would lose every Juri player.
I never thought I'd see the day that someone would deny this just to shitpost about smash.
That goes for you as well.
It's still only the vast minority of smash players who do this and you'll never change my mind.
Most people that buy Smash are casuals that play random characters at parties.
Tourneygays are a very small minority.
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game
Ha ha ha
Hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHA
>I doubt someone would buy Smash just because one character from a franchise they like is in the game
Welcome to the realm of fighting games where someone's main getting in determines whether or not they buy a game.
>I can play a first party Nintendo game on a Nintendo console
>But look! It also has characters in it from games not even on the console!!!
Wow... big whoop? That's like if Tekken had Link in it but they didn't put it on the Switch. There goes all those dlc sales from the console playerbase not playing your game.
>That's like if Tekken had Link in it but they didn't put it on the Switch. There goes all those dlc sales from the console playerbase not playing your game.
Not him but we the frick are you even talking about?
It's not a direct comparison but remember how shit Strikers sold on PC? It's directly related to PC players not having Persona 5. I don't doubt that Joker sold a lot just because the character himself is popular but when P5S wasn't a Switch port the people who bought the character felt massively cucked. Nobody cares that he "advertised Smash." They wanted the full package of having access to the game the character is from and the Smash inclusion.
>It's not a direct comparison but remember how shit Strikers sold on PC? It's directly related to PC players not having Persona 5
homie, what you're saying has no relevance to the conversation at all.
>but when P5S wasn't a Switch port the people who bought the character felt massively cucked.
Are you projecting now or something? Because the people who bought the character were already happy because Joker got in. Do you think they were upset because you can't comprehend people owning multiple systems or something?
>homie, what you're saying has no relevance to the conversation at all.
It has complete relevance moron. It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead since it was the only Smash inclusion from a game series you can't play on Switch.
>Do you think they were upset because you can't comprehend people owning multiple systems or something?
They literally were. There was nonstop coping and goldfacing and people being told "just buy a PS4 already" even though the the game they're playing isn't on the PS4. It was the exact opposite of your "nobody was upset everyone owns a ps4 already" historical revisionism. I don't even need to show examples, just look at the P4S announcement threads.
>It has complete relevance
No it fricking doesn't. You have no idea what you're fricking talking about and this is the proof
>It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead since it was the only Smash inclusion from a game series you can't play on Switch.
For one there are several persona games on Nintendo systems along with the other megaten titles.
Two, p5 not being on switch should have hammered it into your head that the objective was to appeal to the persona players and not get smash players to play persona. If you feel like it was a p5 advertisement then that's on you.
>There was nonstop coping and goldfacing and people being told "just buy a PS4 already"
There's ALWAYS goldfaces and coping over Nintendo because Ganker is an anti Nintendo shithole that wants to push the narrative that tendies don't have multiple systems which blew up in their face because every single twitter begger an anti-tendie would post had already played it on ps4.
>I don't even need to show examples, just look at the P4S announcement threads.
Yes you do, not for my sake but because you clearly don't remember what happened between Joker's release and then.
>because you clearly don't remember what happened between Joker's release and then.
That period was genuinely hilarious. Sonygays were non stop shitposting about persona because they were scared of the potential for a port.
>No it fricking doesn't. You have no idea what you're fricking talking about and this is the proof
Great argument.
>For one there are several persona games on Nintendo systems along with the other megaten titles.
All spinoffs lol. Imagine thinking being thrown some bones equates to being a legitimate Nintendo third party rep.
> Ganker is an anti Nintendo shithole
What kind of schizo victim complex is this lol? This place is called Gankertendogaf for a reason. This board has the most diehard cultists ever. You can't even criticize Nintendo without people immediately assuming you're a Sony fan.
>wants to push the narrative that tendies don't have multiple systems which blew up in their face because every single twitter begger an anti-tendie would post had already played it on ps4.
Literally making up fake boogeymen who live in your schizo mind lol. I witnessed people irl who were upset about no P5 port. And yes, Switch owners owning multiple systems is the norm and no secret but lots of people don't own a PS4 moron.
>Yes you do, not for my sake but because you clearly don't remember what happened between Joker's release and then.
Not at all. Just because you're a schizophrenic moron who thinks Ganker is somehow "anti-Nintendo" doesn't mean that the sky is green. Fricking loser.
>Great argument.
Are you moronic? Why would you say this as if the argument didn't occur AFTER that point?
>All spinoffs lol.
Now this is a complete non argument, an entry in a series is an entry regardless of what you believe.
>This place is called Gankertendogaf for a reason.
This place is called Gankertendogaf because anti-tendies were butthurt we repurposed neoGanker to refer to the NeoGAF environment they built after 2013.
>You can't even criticize Nintendo without people immediately assuming you're a Sony fan.
Literally the exact opposite. Any time Sony does something stupid or a state of play is disappointing people will defend them by screaming tendie. Hell it still happens in mh threads when talking about World when there's literally no reason for it anymore.
>I witnessed people irl who were upset about no P5 port.
Yeah and I saw 50 ps4's flying out of an apartment complex when p5 was announced for pc and xbox. Do you see how worthless anecdotal evidence is?
Meanwhile in archives, twitter, YouTube everywhere no one gave a shit except for people who already had persona and didn't even have switches.
>Not at all
There you have it, you admit you didn't remember.
>Are you moronic? Why would you say this as if the argument didn't occur AFTER that point?
Great argument.
>Now this is a complete non argument, an entry in a series is an entry regardless of what you believe.
Only Smash inclusion without a mainline entry on a Nintendo console. Cope.
>This place is called Gankertendogaf because anti-tendies were butthurt we repurposed neoGanker to refer to the NeoGAF environment they built after 2013.
Nice schizo fanfiction.
>Literally the exact opposite. Any time Sony does something stupid or a state of play is disappointing people will defend them by screaming tendie.
Complete disassociation with reality. This board HATES Sony more than anything else. You cannot make a Playstation/PS5 thread without instant trolling. Polls and instances of brand specific insults confirm this as well.
>Hell it still happens in mh threads when talking about World when there's literally no reason for it anymore.
Horrible comparison.
>Meanwhile in archives, twitter, YouTube everywhere no one gave a shit except for people who already had persona and didn't even have switches.
Archives will show you #BreakFreePersona, the P5S raging. Thinking this was entirely orchestrated as outrage by Sony fans is peak Q-anon tier dementia.
>There you have it, you admit you didn't remember.
You can't even process reality lol.
>This board HATES Sony more than anything else.
NTA but this board will unconditionally defend Sony. Just look at how many people claimed and continue to claim that the pedo working there was fake.
Or the people trying to justify Sony using inferior PAL versions of games for their premium classics service because of language optiins
>or people trying to justify $70 games because Sony's devs need the money.
This place treats them like golden gods.
>NTA but this board will unconditionally defend Sony. Just look at how many people claimed and continue to claim that the pedo working there was fake.
>Or the people trying to justify Sony using inferior PAL versions of games for their premium classics service because of language optiins
5 people claiming bullshit doesn't make up the majority of Ganker. This board loathes Sony and denying that is denying reality. The Snoy trolls stopped posting in threads altogether because they're too busy doomposting and screaming at Jim Ryan on Twitter.
>5 people claiming bullshit doesn't make up the majority of Ganker.
The issue is that its not 5 people, its the majority of the board the worst part is that when questioned they'll, out of the blue, mention owning a switch as if it justifies their defence because they believe everyone else is Nintendo aligned.
>This board loathes Sony and denying that is denying reality.
No, not at all. If you want to see loathing just look at how people treat Nintendo here. Hell, the DxM players were driven off to /m/ because of all the anti Nintendo shitposting when it released.
If this board hated Sony and it was in the minority they would have been driven off years ago.
> its the majority of the board
When the most insulted brand on the board is Sony as evidenced by polls and statistics threads easily found in the archives, denying that Sony is the most hated brand on this board is complete disassociation with reality. I don't argue with people who deny water is wet. Goodbye.
>When the most insulted brand on the board is Sony as evidenced by polls and statistics threads easily found in the archives
Anon, there's a poll regarding the worst fanbase once in a blue moon and all it proves is that the Sony playerbase here is almost equal to the combined Nintendo, pc and xbox playerbase here.
>denying that Sony is the most hated brand on this board is complete disassociation with reality if that were true you'd be able to find more sony shitposting than Nintendo shitposting at this very moment.
>Archives will show you #BreakFreePersona,
Shitposting just doesn't exist as a concept to you does it.
That was a legitimate hashtag and people were responding to even Atlus Twitter post with it. It wasnt a Ganker shitpost thing.
It was a snoy shitposting thing
It wasn't. Legitimate Switch owners and Persona fans were asking for it. Take your meds loser.
Take your pills troon.
No, it was a real thing.
On twitter, among people who had already played persona on ps4 which is what this anon,
doesn't understand.
On Ganker people were using it purely to falseflag and I'm willing to bet that anon is one of those people since he's using the same defences and revisionism
Yeah snoy are pure cancer
>It's entirely related to why P5 not being on Switch reflected poorly to Joker's "Smash advertisement" and made it feel more like an advertisement for P5 instead
Not him but Sora was a blatant advertisement, it coincided with the announcement of the cloud versions and that rythym game coming to switch.
Joker was added to get persona fans to buy the game, same with Tekken fans and Kazuya, Rare fans and Banjo, DQ fans and Hero and FF7 fans and Sephiroth.
All of them coincided with boosted smash sales while their original games saw nothing from it.
Fair enough but at least for all of those franchises there existed at least one mainline entry on a Nintendo console, let alone the Switch. Banjo was the closest example to Persona's case but at least the Switch online ports got put out relatively close to the Banjo Switch announcement. With Persona it was just radio silence and spinoffs for years now.
>but at least for all of those franchises there existed at least one mainline entry on a Nintendo console,
Mainline Tekken has never been on a Nintendo system.
In fact there have been more Persona games on Nintendo systems than Tekken
>Q
>Q2
>arena Ultimax
>strikers
Bonus blazblue as well
Vs
>Tekken 3d
>tag 2
>advance
The last Tekken game on a Nintendo system is nearing 10 years old while Strikers was two years ago.
But no one cares about Kazuya because because he can't be used as shitposting material since the Tekken fanbase isn't as pathetic as the persona fanbase which people can use to shitpost about tendies.
>characters in it from games not even on the console!!!
Joker is a Smash character that
appears in Persona, not the other way around.
that's a disgusting mock up
Persona 5 Royal LITERALLY can't be ported to switch, that little shitbox can't run it
Just you wait
>Persona 5 Royal LITERALLY can't be ported to switch
Persona isn't even as graphically intensive TMS. I mean it's literally fricking shovelware Atlus scooped out of their ass in five minutes.
>shovelware
The game existence was partly to update all their demon models to make the real shovelware.
>The game existence was partly to update all their demon models to make the real shovelware.
That was why they made Dx2.
Persona was a shovelware title to shove on ps3 and 4 to take advantage of the major drought at the time.
They don't use the Dx2 models on console games tho, iirc they can't use them cause they belong to sega
Sega owns Atlus silly head.
Yeah but they don't allow them to use the models on the games, that's why every game reuses the same persona 5 demons with 2 or 3 new models for the kaneko ones
SMTV doesn't have any of the Dx2 models, sadly. Pretty much every Dx2 model made in the past 3 years is of higher quality than the stuff Atlus shat out for SMTV.
5 uses a mix of Dx2 and P5 models anon.
No. Trust me, there were enough autistic discussions in /smtg/ on whether it does or it doesn't. It doesn't use ANY Dx2 demons at all.
>/smtg/
>to make the real shovelware.
I wish, they should never have stopped with spin-offs.
>it's literally fricking shovelware Atlus scooped out of their ass in five minutes
You know that isn't true
It's persona anon. 70% of the game isn't even animated because it's just cutscenes and dialogue.
If a PS3 could run P5 then surely the switch could as well. I don't care either way, it'll be on steam deck
>muh steam deck
vegan
PS3 CPU instruction set was higher in performance than PS4
Switch has ARM shitty CPU with cores from 2012
>MUH CELL
spot the nodev
jaguar rapes cell trash all day every day, and ARM A57 is even better than jaguar is
It's a PS3 game. Switch runs tons of PS3 games at higher resolutions and framerates than PS3.
>It's a PS3 game.
The base P5 game was. It's PS4 version already had 3d models that were touched up beyond what the PS3 could support. P5 Royal pushed that further with more graphical updates. All the demons/shadows had another round of updates switching to richer models with higher polycounts. Numerous parts of the palace and urban environments were touched up with higher res textures and models. It has larger crowds of people swarming the cities than the PS3 version could support. Etc.
It's not really noticeable at first, but if you know what you're looking for, it's there. And Atlus being Atlus, they'd be too lazy to backport the stuff from Royal back to base P5 levels so it could run on the Switch. They aren't SquareEnix who literally set out to decimate the quality of the entire contents of DQ11 to placate Switch hardware; and then added extras to allow it to be called a 'definitive editiion' and not lose face entirely in the process. (Which fyi; they still did in the end, when backporting that fricked up version to other platforms again.)
>And Atlus being Atlus, they'd be too lazy to backport the stuff from Royal back to base P5 levels so it could run on the Switch.
Atlus being Atlus they would port vanilla P5 and call it a day. That would be hilarious, the version of P4 with extra content that people prefer, the version of P3 with extra content that people hate and vanilla P5, Atlus would totally do something like that.
Who said Switch is getting the Royal version?
NTA but there's no reason not to port royal if it is getting it. I mean they already downgraded it for the sake of performance
>there's no reason
Anon, it's Atlus, there's your reason.
>Persona 5 Royal LITERALLY can't be ported to switch,
it LITERALLY can though.
Or are you really that dumb to believe that No Man's Sky, Doom Eternal, Witcher 3 and others are less graphic demanding than a JRPG like P5R?
big cope
>big cope
Shit, you got me hard with that one, I concede.
>Witcher 3
Have you actually SEEN what that looks like on a Switch, compared to any of the other platforms?
Exactly like the PS4 version but smeared in Vaseline
Switch can run bigger games than that, so stop this meme
No it can't
If the Switch can run The Witcher 3, Doom Eternal, and Crysis, it can run Persona 5
Graphic fidelity is one thing, it really depends on Persona's whether or not P5's code is spaghetti or not.
Catherine Full Body is on the same engine as P5 and it runs fine on the switch
What's interesting about Full Body is they actually ported Catherine from Gamebryo to the Persona 5 engine.
There are also lots of games it can't run worth a frick, like Rune Factory 5. It really depends on the game, PS5, Xbox XS are all so powerful they can make poorly coded games look and run great but Switch needs good code. Judging by how SMTV runs on Switch and how it took them 5 years to finally release it exclusively for Switch I would guess Atlus writes shitty code.
SMTV is Atlus falling for the Unreal meme
>PS5, Xbox XS are all so powerful they can make poorly coded games look and run great
I hope you aren't saying that's a good thing.
Wasn't SMT5 Atlus' first Unreal game? That's probably why it ran like ass.
No; it was an Atlus game. THAT's why it ran like ass. They usually do. It's just that the assets are low fidelity enough that on any decent hardware even dating back to the previous decade, it'll still carry enough oomph to power through the muck and function properly. Sadly, that terminally excludes any Nintendo hardware which is more like 2 to 2.5 generations behind the curve.
Explain Catherine then you mongoloid
Catherine is 10 hours long, dumbass.
And Witcher 3 with add-ons is closer to 250, what's your point?
P5 doesn't even weigh a whole lot
Man witcher 3 looks like a PS2 game on the switch, not to mention the 240p resolution just to barely get 20 fps. It's just now worth it because tendies don't buy megaten anyways.
It's still impressive how much they managed to squeeze out of Switch with that port
I admit though, launching TW3 on Switch and on Steam Deck side-by-side was hilarious
You keep deflecting and changing the subject. The Switch is more than capable of running P5R, for it has already run games graphically comparable or even more demanding than it. It has even run a game using the exact same engine.
Game length doesn't mean anything, performance-wise. At most it affects the file size of the game, which Atlus could get around a number of ways. They could even pull an Activision and require a download for the bulk of the game.
It takes too much effort and therefore money to optimize a game for the switch. The market just isn't there. Look at strikers, it sold the worst at switch.
One unconfortable truth is that SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive, let alone multiplat.
SMTV sold better than mainline SMT ever sold on PlayStation. Given PS's current state in Japan, it'd have flopped hard if it released there. Come on, at least try and be realistic with your bullshit.
And this was the PS2's heyday with more Japanese and weeb PS owners than ever. Yet they want to pretend SMT5 is some massive fail, when it's actually the best selling of the series.
>SMTV sold better than mainline SMT ever sold on PlayStation
Indigenous homosexual, only nocturne counts as mainline and it came out when megaten as a whole wasn't known in the west at all. Another unconfortable truth is that SMTV sold as much thanks to Persona 5 popularizing the franchise. Same can be said about SMTIV and Persona 4. Nocturne didn't have its own big persona success.
lol snoy doesn't even know how to type "disingenuous." Also SMT was well established in Japan when Nocturne released there, and V still outsold it in Japan. So your western argument doesn't hold water at all.
Mainline SMT sells worse than Persona, that's always how it's been and if you've actually been in MegaTen threads you'd know the SMTgays seethe endlessly over Persona's popularity.
We'll find out when the PS4 version and PC version releases.
I'd suggest you temper your expectations, late ports generally sell less than the original release.
>Comparing og Nocturne to V
Indigenous, plain indigenous.
>and if you've actually been in MegaTen threads you'd know the SMTgays seethe endlessly over Persona's popularity.
And you're calling him a snoy?
It'd be pretty dishonest to deny the existence of infighting within the MegaTen fanbase.
Not really because it would be the truth.
All the "infighting" is one sided in that the persona fanbase think they're being attacked when no one gives a shit.
Hell the closest thing to legitimate infighting is that one anon who believes SJ is mainline and alwats posts that stupid box
I have seen SMTgays shit on Personagays countless times for being more casual, so I don't know what the frick you're on.
>I have seen SMTgays shit on Personagays countless times for being more casual
Right.
Extremely unlikely given the slim contact the two tend to have with each other.
Sure. Just like how it's TOTALLY unlikely that Nintendo and Playstation fanboys would ever interact.
The two franchises share a developer and one's rooted in the other, it's only natural that fans of both mingle every now and then.
>Just like how it's TOTALLY unlikely that Nintendo and Playstation fanboys would ever interact.
Yes. The latter tends to imagine interactions with the former and thus thread is evidence of that.
>it's only natural that fans of both mingle every now and then.
No, not at all. Look at the Platinum developed games for instance, there's almost no overlap between Bayo, Nier Automata and Astral Chain. In fact Lappy appearing in the Bayo trailer was the first overlap between the two fanbases.
Sharing developers/owners doesn't necessarily mean that fanbases intermingle some like smash and FE hate each other.
the playstation fanboys exist only in your head. nintendo fans are schizophrenic. seek help.
This but sony fanboys
Are you gonna now say that everyone who uses common insults is all actually the same guy, but it's actually the sony fans who are schizo?
Why would I do those things?
Love how you're just ignoring the point about one franchise being spawned from the other. But then you've decided to hinge your entire argument on the idea that Personagays and SMTgays never interact(lol) to try and prove the point that SMTV's sales are somehow bad.
Might as well point out that they're also in the same genre, both being turn based JRPGs and all.
>Love how you're just ignoring the point about one franchise being spawned from the other
Because its pointless. Nier came from Drakengard but you barely hear talk of it, pokemon game players don't talk about the tcg, then there's again smash and just about every series in it.
The problem here is that you can't comprehend the idea of there being separate groups for each subject.
>Nier came from Drakengard but you barely hear talk of it
It still comes up and the earliest Nier fans came from the Drakengard fandom.
>pokemon game players don't talk about the tcg
lol
lmao even
How can someone be this wrong?
>The problem here is that you can't comprehend the idea of there being separate groups for each subject.
No, you just want to deny the existence of overlap and infighting that have existed for years on this board.
>It still comes up
Yes, rarely, that's the point.
>How can someone be this wrong?
By being correct? The tcg and game communities are separate groups.
>No, you just want to deny the existence of overlap and infighting
Yeah, because there's zero evidence. As someone who frequents both persona and smt threads it's exceedingly rare to see infighting that isn't just some console war fanboy and usually it ends quickly with five people calling him a moron for calling persona smt.
>Yes, rarely, that's the point.
Those two series are directly linked in the same franchise you idiot.
>By being correct? The tcg and game communities are separate groups.
Most TCG players get into it because they're already fans of the games. There's massive overlap between the two groups, you're out of your fricking mind for thinking otherwise.
>Yeah, because there's zero evidence. As someone who frequents both persona and smt threads it's exceedingly rare to see infighting that isn't just some console war fanboy and usually it ends quickly with five people calling him a moron for calling persona smt.
I see it all the time, and I've seen it for years. There's always one homosexual who speaks up about the petty rivalry between the series.
You're denying reality and making asinine arguments in a vain, roundabout attempt to prove SMTV flopped somehow and it's really sad.
>There's always one homosexual who speaks up about the petty rivalry between the series.
Like you?
>Those two series are directly linked in the same franchise you idiot.
Yes and they're rarely brought up, again, that's the point.
Please pay attention.
>Most TCG players get into it because they're already fans of the games
You're missing the entire point, it doesn't matter how they get into it, it's the fact that there's very little overlap between tcg players and game players where discussion is concerned much like persona and smt.
>I see it all the time
Yes you've said that multiple times now but anecdotal evidence doesn't change anything.
>There's always one homosexual who speaks up about the petty rivalry between the series.
Anon, you're the one who brought it up, if you're seeing it despite the rarity then the only logical conclusion is that you're the one behind it.
>You're denying reality and making asinine arguments in a vain, roundabout attempt to prove SMTV flopped somehow and it's really sad.
What on earth are you talking about? I'm not trying to say it flopped just that the two fanbases rarely interact.
>Indigenous
>SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive
That would make its sales comparable to Persona 5, which doesn't make sense.
We all know Persona is way more popular than SMT.
>One unconfortable truth is that SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive, let alone multiplat.
Anon, smt 3 sold less ps4 than it did in switch. Not to mention being on ps4 would mean less advertising.
It would have actually flopped.
>smt 3 sold less ps4 than it did in switch
That's because Sonychads already played nocturne decades ago.
No its because they were too busy play last of us again
>One unconfortable truth is that SMT V would have sold 3x more copies if it was released as a ps4 exlusive, let alone multiplat.
How can you say this with a straight face when SMT III HD sold best on Switch? It did okay on PS but PCgays let it bomb miserably like they do with any JRPG that isn't Final Fantasy or Persona.
Tendies are just so much more used to remasters, it's not a fair comparison.
>Tendies are just so much more used to remasters
There are more remasters and ports on ps4 than switch.
They also tend to sell more than they do on any other platform.
Switch cards can more than handle Persona 5. Their limit is like 32 (and apparently Nintendo is making bigger), and Persona is around 20gb. Probably a helluva lot less without all the 4k sized textures others have. SMT 5 is just 12gb.
Oh, I'm well aware. I said "a number of ways" because a lot of publishers don't like paying for bigger Switch cards. It's a common complaint.
There's really no excuse not to port P5 to Switch. It's perfectly possible and the demand is there. There wouldn't be years of portbegging if demand wasn't there. But snoys try to spin every single narrative they can for why there's no port, all to make their platform look better.
They don't care how it looks they just want to have it, it's all about HAVING the game, not actually playing it.
Tendies hate videogames, it's the most important factor in being a tendie after all
What a strange thing to say. It's almost purely games on Nintendo platforms. Not movieshit.
Nintendo holds back the entire gaming industry. Tendies want games to be worse just because they're selfish and can't handle it when a game is too advanced to run on their crappy hardware.
You sound a bit unhinged.
What does that have to do with actual game design? Graphics don't make a good game.
Shit graphics make a shit game
Imagine defending 240p, 12fps graphics in 2022. This is what the cult of nintendo does to your brain. The rest of the industry has moved on to 4k, 120fps, and nintendo can't get 360p down without dips yet.
>The rest of the industry has moved on to 4k, 120fps,
The issue is that the industry isn't ready for it. Look at how little games are coming out since the PS5 and xsx came out.
Do people actually care about 4k? I get fps because that also affects how responsive the control feels and fps drops suck ass, but all the fancy graphics shit feels unnecessary. I played the Jak and Daxter decomp and it looked perfectly fine to me. I'd rather they use the technology for something interesting instead of adding a bunch of useless graphical effects that don't really change how the game plays.
>Do people actually care about 4k?
Children do because "muh big numbuh" but otherwise stable performance is key.
No one sane cares about graphics anymore if they ever did, on the PS4 we already were able to see characters pores, what more do graphicsgays want?
We've hit diminishing returns with graphics. 1080p has always been fine, but people don't really realize that because consoles were still spanning anywhere between 800p and 1080p
I have an SX, but I'd still be happy with the S. 4K is a meme and tougher to get 60fps with. 1080p has always been a workable tradeoff.
Besides, don't competitive pros still use 1080p a lot?
Let's imagine for a moment, you buy a book. Now, I know anyone with a reading level above 4th grade wouldn't be a tendie in the first place, but I digress, it's just a thought experiment. This book is completely fricked, the font size changes randomly between lines, the lines aren't straight, sometimes they overlap and you can't make out the letters, there are pages missing, pages out of order, massive ink splashes that make entire sections illegible. You return it and get a new copy. Surprisingly, it's defective in all the exact same ways. You go online, complaining about this, and then you have a million absolute zealots claim that "readability doesn't matter, only authorial intent!"
This is what you sound like when you say that graphics don't matter at all.
Yeah, but it isn't even that bad. You're just going overboard with the analogy.
Artwork matters though. Just not graphics necessarily. You can pull off iconic designs without it - and Nintendo are masters at it. Some in the West weren't too shabby themselves (like Blizzard). But if you don't have an actual well designed game, none of this matters either.
About that. In this situation it's more the book is completely legible, absolutely nothing is wrong with it but people complain about it because they can't see the lines of pixels on the print.
>nintendo games
>legible
Right I forgot. Moat anti-tendies are Brazilian.
Sounds like you're describing the average Bethesda game, don't know what that has to do with Nintendo.
God don't talk to me about Bethesda games. I spent like an hour trying to fix the Alduin's Bane quest because he wouldn't show up in the past.
The worst part was that I was playing on ps4 so I couldn't exactly use console commands.
FRICKING THANK YOU
You can have a shit game with good graphics, but you can't have a good game with shit graphics
And now you know why we look at you kids like like you're the physical embodiment of cancer.
That doesn't make sense at all.
How? Are you moronic?
Think about what you said and how you define good graphics.
>but you can't have a good game with shit graphics
Of course you fricking can. The best games in the history of gaming have never been graphical powerhouses and often have unique styles to make up for the visuals.
"muh style" is the oldest cope in the book, ever since playstation got things like resident evil while N64 was stuck with BING BING WAHOO
>ever since playstation got things like resident evil while N64 was stuck with BING BING WAHOO
Imagine still thinking this is a console war thing and not just common sense. There's a reason why games like Metal Slug are at the zenith of visual flair while games like tlou are gutter trash.
>tendie is still salty is smear campaign against the last of us part 2 failed and it went on to sell over 10 million copies
KEK
>snoy continues to double down on a shitty argument because he's seething at nintendo again
You lost
And yet...
Why are you posting selfies, tendie?
Any reason why you stopped replying to neogeo anon?
>neogeo game
>ported to every system imaginable
>still going for the tendie angle
>unironically arguing sales in a graphics conversation
How are you not getting this? Did Nintendo really break you to the extent where you see everything that isn't Sony as Nintendo?
Grow up and get some standards, once you realise 4k doesn't make a game inherently look good you'll thank me.
>book analogy
Yes, I know tendies are too moronic to read, or they wouldn't be tendies in the first place, I mentioned that
Stealing this one for the future, never seen such a perfect analogy
if you can't even fricking see what's happening on the screen, it's either a shit game, shit hardware, or both. take your pick.
Shhh, tendies don't respond well to logic
>if you can't even fricking see what's happening on the screen
I can see it just fine but I'm also not legally blind.
shit like pic related is unacceptable in a visual medium and only nintendo gets away with it.
Oink oink
>in the process of loading textures
(You)
>Nintendo holds back the entire gaming industry
Nah, Nintendo sets the bar for the industry in terms of game quality and diverse content, it's Sony and Microsoft that hold the industry back by pushing out hardware developers aren't ready for which forces them not only to downsize the scope of their games but also brute force functionality using the power of v the system. This also creates a lot of crunch and profit thresholds that can't be hit even with 5m sales which normally would be fantastic
>BING BING WAHOO #576, 577, 578, and 579
>"diverse content"
moron
this
Tendies are too moronic to understand
>costs of money and time for porting
To get anything ported to Switch is impossible if you want silky smooth 30 fps with 720p. You always have to make a game look like shit to make it barely playable on the Switch and sometimes even do a "Witcher 3", where you more or less just cut content in such a way that the whole immersion is gone because of assets are simply not displayable.
>supporting your game with patches after release
Again, the toaster is not like Steam where you can just drop it randomly without any charges. Releasing a patch for the toaster costs insane amounts of money and other shit before you are allowed to publish the patch.
>the engine and other obstacles like the literal toaster hardware
Porting is not like pushing a button. At worse your game can soft lock in the middle of the game. It's nearly impossible to port anything to a toaster without insane amount of wasted time.
>potential sales
Tendies don't buy Atlus games
>other stuff like personal relationship
There are rumors that Nintendo was not behaving very "Japanese" when they saw the disappointing SMT5 sales. Atlus seems like their retaliate for getting blamed that Tendies don't buy Atlus games.
Didn't read
Shut the frick up.
>disappointing SMT5 sales
Best selling in the series schizo.
>Best selling dog turd yet!
You sure it's the best selling Shin Megani Tensei game? Last I checked P4 is in 2.5m and P5 is in over 5m while SMTV is in 1 million. Lmao
Not smt buddy.
>big hit series
Yikes
>Korean version
Still not smt
>literally says shin megami tensei on the cover
>acksually it doesn't count because I said so
I don't even know what's that supposed to mean.
GOOGLE DOES IT AGIAN :DDD
>Megami Ibunroku Persona
>not even Megaten
KOREAN AND DOG DO NOT ENTER
See
I mean, you did just prove him right.
It's also the highest costing one yet. It would be insanely bad if it wasn't the best selling one. That was already a given especially considering smt sales have always been mediocre. The cost to make smt v was probably more than all the smt games before it combined lmao
>Source: my ass
There were already assets from P5
Source?
>It's also the highest costing one yet.
That would most likely be 3 actually since they actually had to make every demon in the game rather than reusing most of them like 5 did
3 reuses assets from Nocturne who reused assets from Nine
Reading comprehension anon. I'm talking about smt 3 aka nocturne.
Also nocturne was in development before NINE.
>P5R is confirmed to run under the same engine that was used for Catherine Full Body
>a game that is already available on the Switch, including a physical release
It literally can. What salami-eyed consolewars homosexuals are unaware of and what baiting weasels willingly ignore is that developers might actively choose to shelve ports and features just because they simply do not care enough to pursue a monetary game out of it. That's why EA ports the exact same Fifa game to the Switch with an updated roster instead of making a game from the ground-up like the other competitors do, or why for select gaming collections you literally get part of the game on the disc/cart and you have to download the rest online, defeating the purpose of a physical version. It's not just om Switch either, it happens elsewhere, too!
I still have not scrolled down the thread, but I'm already anticipating morons bringing up the PS3 Kingdom Hearts collections' cloud versions, these port-flaming threads are basically required these simpletons in order to reach triple-digit threads by this point.
If it can run Rise and Sunbreak it can run Shitsona
>games that look worse than the average PS2 game
Wow, it's almost like the shitch is weaker than a ps2 or something
Still look better than Shitsona 5
You'll never see it coming
Oh man, I can't wait to play a six year old game at 540p 22fps.
Then get it on ps4.
You're missing the point anon, no one wants it on switch to play it but to see the Sony fanbase collectively flip their shit if it happens.
Not being on Nintendo systems was the last thing they had as a defence for the game.
The cope, that is.
The real tragedy is Soul Hackers 2 isn't
Soul Hackers 2 seems to be running on the same engine as Persona 5, so if P5 does make it onto the Switch that probably means Soul Hackers 2 will follow, it just might take an extra year or two after the PS/Xbox launch.
>Soulless Hacks
>high school jrpg game about a homosexual wearing a trench coat and mask
I absolutely could not care less
Option A: It doesn't come and the portbeggars seethe.
Option B: It does come and the portbeggars finally shut the frick up forever.
I win either way.
Correction
>Option A: It doesn't come and nothing happens
>Option B: It does come and the fanboys seethe uncontrollably and completely abandon the idea of it being a good game.
Persona fanboys are the people that watched the game on YouTube because they don't own a PlayStation.
>Persona 5 fans excited to play for the first time
>NOOOOOOO you're not allowed to be excited for something based on recommendations from another person!!
Those types of people don't actually exist. The people who "portbeg" are either
1) shitposters here like OP
2) people who already played it but wanted persona to justify buying a switch.
>I'll buy this console for that game I already played
Yes.
There was one guy that used to be posted around as an "example" of a "tendie" begging for persona 5 calling everything in that 2020 direct with smt 3 persona but it turned out he had a full play through of persona 5 on his channel.
God I can't even remember his name, Gomess? Gomark? Something along those lines, either way it was hilarious.
But I digress, the point is that the persona fanbase truly is that moronic
morons still don't get that the biggest selling point for the Switch is that it's a fricking portable.
>oh but muh steam dick
The Steam Deck fricking sucks as a portable handheld device.
The Nintendo Switch is:
>much smaller and thinner than the steam deck
>has the same screen size and resolution as the deck
>has a OLED screen which is much better than the deck's shit IPS screen
>has much better battery life than the deck
>has a larger library than the steam deck in terms of actual compatible games
Fat fricks that stay inside all day can't understand why you'd want to play games on a handheld device that is actually portable.
It's also worth noting that before p5 the best selling game was p4g on vita with about 1.2m. A not insignificant amount of players started playing the game on a portable.
>comparing 1.2 million to the over 7 million 5 has sold
Shitch lost
1.2m on the fricking Vita is a very impressive number you drooling moron.
>people who already played it but wanted persona to justify buying a switch
You're a literal brainlet.
Remember when sonygays prematurely abandoned it after joker was revealed for smash?
> Option C: It does come, but it's the base Persona 5 as originally issued for the PS3
Because that actually falls within the spec range that's viable for the Switch and Atlus being Atlus was too lazy to backport the enhancements from Royal to that version. I mean; let's be honest here, this - Atlus being lazy Atlus - is why they ported P3P to modern systems instead of P3:FES with the enhancements for combat from P3P, after all.
Switch users having to be content with base Persona 5 would probably result in the most delicious seethe of them all.
The consolation-prize seethe, with a sideline of cope.
>Because that actually falls within the spec range that's viable for the Switch and Atlus being Atlus was too lazy to backport the enhancements from Royal to that version.
No, that's an impossibility. Atlus basically destroys the original when the new ones come out, just look at TMS and Catherine
good. Just in time for the P6 reveal at the Atlus concert later in the year
Not as good as SMTV anywyay.
>Not as good as SMTV anywyay.
Persona 5 will always be better than your shitty troony game.
>Persona 5 will always be better than Persona 5
?
A little redundant to say that isn't it
Sure, persona "Chad"
Why do people care about this so much? I refuse to believe there are people out there who own only a Switch and no other console
I do. I only play the Switch. I don't want Persona though.
I've only had a Switch for 3 years now. I just moved a lot and all my other stuff has been in storage for almost 5 years.
The switch can't handle P5 without massive graphical downgrades.
this, they had to rebuild DQ11 for the switch
DQ11 isn't a ps3 game that looks worse than most switch games that was later downgraded for the rerelease.
Persona on shitch never ever.
Okay we get it samegay
Reminder that kingdom hearts can't run on the switch and neither does this.
>Reminder that kingdom hearts can't run on the switch and neither does this.
tell us more.
>240p
>12 fps
This is while docked, handheld is even worse. If you call that "running", you're moronic, but that explains why you're anintendo cultist in the first place.
yep, moron confirmed. Probably is 14 or so too.
Looking at graphics this blurry will give you glaucoma
By that logic you shouldn't be playing on consoles at all.
4K is pretty much the standard now. At any rate it's well above 1080p even if it's not real 4K, aliasing pretty much doesn't exist anymore, and images are crisp
Comparing the Switch running The Witcher 3 at 720p (with dynamic resolution meaning it's usually lower than this) is no contest, the Switch looks like ass. Comparison screens don't even do it justice since they usually have compression artifacts and bilinear filtering which covers up just how poor the image quality is
PooStation doesn't run Witcher 3 at 4K
Either get an Xbox or a PC if you want 4K
Even if we're talking about the original PS4 (I wasn't), it's still loads better than the Switch. You'd have to have an incredibly old shitty TV not to be able to see the difference in clarity
Man the PS4 is so low res...
That was such an underpowered console.
Piss4 Protato nor PS5 run Witcher 3 at 4K, try again
there's a difference between "not at 4k" and "worse than a potato-quality youtube video from 2006."
>4K is pretty much the standard now
Anon, no console does native 4k.
>Comparison screens don't even do it justice
Most Switch comparisons are incredibly disingenuous. This picture, for instance, has a vertical resolution of 648, meaning both images have been downsampled heavily. Of course you will lose all of the benefits that higher resolutions provide when you show a shitty image like this.
Tendies lie, it's all they do. They lie to others to get people to try out a shitch, they lie to themselves and pretend they're enjoying their shitch. Everything they say is a lie.
These images look pretty much the same anon
The point was that it's a bad image, unless your intent is deceiving people into believing the PS4 and Switch versions look even remotely similar.
This one is far more accurate of what to expect:
Lol get out of here console peasant...
PC still has tiling textures. LOL so much for your $4000 graphics card.
Now give us a landscape panorama side-by-side, rather than that cheap and easy-to-cover-up-the-loss-of-details shot.
Do it, turd.
the switch one reminds me of the lighting in PS2 games
i like it
moron
Just don't fill the board with Persona shitposts tomorrow
Dont care, already played it on PS4.
I can't wait to be able to play persona 5 while in bed bros!
Unpopular opinion but as someone who owns both I think the switch actually has the best persona 5 game aka scramble.
Shitch is dead
I'm glad it comes on xbox. I don't care about the switch
Persona was ported to Trashbox before you, that will never not be funny.
It's only funny if they weren't just holding the announcement for Nintendo to announce it themselves.
Shitch is too weak to run kingdom hearts without cloud, you think it can run persona?
SE is just an insanely shitty company
KH all the way up to and including 3 could easily be ported to Switch, they just don't want to
>KH all the way up to and including 3 could easily be ported to Switch
Stay delusional, tendie.
Your shitty fisher price tablet is weaker than phones.
cringe
ok jokes aside which phone because the one I have now is getting real old
>reddit x family
>KH all the way up to and including 3 could easily be ported to Switch
>KH3 ported to Switch
And the battery is going to flatline in three... two... one...
Oh wait no; no. Sorry folks, that's the GPU which just caught fire. Must've had a meltdown.
>the switch is too weak for ps2 games
what did he mean by that
I mean that the shitch is weaker than a ps2
Then how come it runs some 7th gen games
see
That doesn;t count as "running" those games
You are mentally ill and obsessed with a boogeyman that doesn't exist.
>shitch
uh oh eric thread everyone, eric thread everyone!
I would be genuinely disappointed if this doesnt get announced tomorrow
Have you not played P5 at all? At this point you'd think someone who really wanted to play it would at least buy a PS3 for cheap.
The people who want it on switch want it to justify buying a switch, not the other way around.
the leaker said P4/3 for shit not P5
The never ever will be BIGGER for the direct
I'm tired of being a nintie and I want to buy an actual console. Which one would you recommend me? The ps5 or Xbox? Note that I don't care about games like uncharted or last of us.
PC is out of the question sadly
>I'm tired of being a nintie and I want to buy an actual console. Which one would you recommend me?
>Note that I don't care about games like uncharted or last of us
>PC is out of the question sadly
A switch.
PS5, it's way more powerful than the average pc
HAHAHAHAHA
Find me a pc for $400 or under that's more powerful than a ps5
>Find me a pc for $400 or under that's more powerful than a ps5
As soon as you can find a ps5 for 400 that's stronger than the average pc.
The fricking thing can barely match a 1060 let alone more recent cards
>The fricking thing can barely match a 1060 let alone more recent cards
Dude, I hate Sony, but you're talking out of your ass now. More like a 2060. And it'll even run things like Cyberpunk better than that 2060 because PC devs are lazy fricks who use dlss as a crutch. Consoles still get more optimized in this day and age. On top of it having a PCIe gen4 SSD, which isn't on cheap PCs.
He's right though. The most popular PC GPU (according to Steam surveys, THE largest study of survey of this kind) is STILL GTX1060 paired with a 4C/8T CPU
I can’t wait for it to be either SMT V Maniax/Redux or cloud ports of Persona 3-5
>persona
Why do you underages out yourselves like that?
It's hilarious how far sony has fallen
It will come and it will only be cloud streamed
Atlus will still be too incompetent to optimize a literal gen 3 port
>Switch can't even run Kingdom Hearts
>Expects it to run P5R
oh i'm laffin
Holy cope tendues on suicide watch time to stop playing with toys and build a PC
Frick P5 and frick P3, port over P4, RP and P2IS+EP.
Persona started at 3
Cope.
Oink oink
We switch owners will laugh at you tomorrow. Feel free to ss this
I want it to happen, but I doubt it. PC it'll be in the end for me.
Post >yfw SMT V Maniax is revealed with Guts as a cameo
you mean. SMT V MANIAX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2rV8oKWSdM
Why are tendies so obsessed with this eric dude? Literally anyone who uses an extremely common insult for the switch gets accused of secretly being him. According to them, anyone who calls it the "shitch" has to be one dude, and it can't be because it's a witty insult that people will naturally pick up on because it aptly describes the absolute state of modern nintendo hardware.
It was one comment made 2 hours ago, Eric.
yeah Persona 5 Cloud Edition
It's gotten to the point that I don't even care anymore.
>when you shill a game that can only played on a competitor's hardware
It's so weird for it not to at this point. Switch is the real weeb successor to PS2.
I don't think it's coming. Atlus would have done it years ago if they wanted to.
Why do Japanese pubs hate money?
Konami is the biggest offender.
Why do you gays keep port begging for this crappy game when the switch already has tons of JRPGs who mop the floor with P5?
Post your party:
>Morgana
>Yusuke
>Haru
I used Ryuji, Makoto and Haru in the original. I actually have Royal now, not sure who to pick for that playthrough.
Ryuji, Ann and Makoto.
Morgana is weak as hell
Anyone else think 1080p is still good?
1080p is still good.
>Make a bait thread
>Get mindbroken and shit yourself in the replies anyway
Snoys really are something.
Duh, facts generally are the enemy of the Sony fanbase.
>Console warring past your teenage years
You're under the assumption that a certain fanbase are adults.
And I'm not referring to tendies.
>Project Re:Fantasy was announced 6 years ago yet has had no new info
>Etrian Odyssey was said to not be done just because the 3DS reached the end of the line, but there have been no further announcements
>SMT V took forever to come out
>Persona milking continues
FATLUS
It's not a matter of "can". It's a matter of "will", and Atlus has simply reasoned that there's no reason to port Persona to Switch.
>It's a matter of "will", and Atlus has simply reasoned that there's no reason to port Persona to Switch.
Here's the thing, they're probably going to do it but it won't payout for them because it's been years since the persona fanbase stopped asking for another portable game.
>From the team that brought you Etrian Odyssey, the popular Persona Q and Persona Q2 is now coming to the Nintendo Switch.
There's your Switch Persona announcement.
>games entirely reliant on the touch screen
>going to Switch
TWEWY is on Switch and that's best played with 2 screens and a stylus. It doesn't play well but it's in there.
>TWEWY is on Switch and that's best played with 2 screens and a stylus
Different situation anon. They remade the entire game for mobiles and then ported that version over to switch.
If you remake Q or any of the Etrian games to remove the touch screen elements you remove the unique part of the game.
>2017 - "t-this time for sure!"
>2018 - "t-this time for sure!"
>2019 - "t-this time for sure!"
>2020 - "t-this time for sure!"
>2021 - "t-this time for sure!"
>2022 - "t-this time for sure!"
Persona 5's been out almost 10 years, anyone who actually wanted to play it has played it by now
Anyone still have the screenshot of Ganker's meltdown when Persona 5 was announced for PS3/4 instead of the Wii U/3DS?
hate to break it to you but there was no meltdown
Unless you're referring to the image where everyone was mocking sonygays by saying p5 would go to every platform under the sun including android purely because the idea caused them. Severe butthurt
Yes that image
You can play it on pc, ps5, and xbox. You can stream it on your phone from your computer or console. Why would you care for a 5 year old game to be on the switch? It's a hundred hour jrpg. Why would you play this on the go?!?
Personally I don't want it on switch to buy it, I want it on switch so I can actually fricking talk about it without some dipshit saying I'm a tendie because I didn't like some minor aspect.
I honestly can't see any fault in these reasons.
As someone who loves MH and wanted MHW threads to be chill I know all too well how bad the Sony fanbase can be when they get scraps.
You mean when tendies had a meltdown over the series finally joining the modern age since the shitch can't run it?
I don't recall that. I just know PC+Switch chads (classic chads) won in the end.
No, I mean when the Sony fanbase finally got their first mh game in several years and immediately used it to shitpost about a nonexistent boogeyman and when they started losing attention on that front they created a falseflag called listgay that compiled the complaints the mh fans had with World into a single copy pasta and spammed it across every thread at the time and when the attention from that faded they created a reddit account called Valkyboi and linked it the same day it was made purely to try and connect listgay to tendies.
But of course it failed and listgay was put to rest.
Until Rise came out and then he made 3 webms for rise with all of the UI elements on screaming about how bad the game is in an attempt to bring down the threads but no one gave him attention to begin with.
Why do snoys always fabricate lies and go out of their way to shitpost and dox themselves while tendies remain calm and cool, stay in their lane and enjoy life?
same reason other jrpgs are building up on the switch. sony is dead. xbox is mostly dudebros and hillbillies and pc is third worlders who don't buy shit. someone needs to hold up the weeb flag and it isn't going to be those Black folk.
>sony is dead
If sony is dead, what the frick does that make nintendo? 6 feet under?
Alive.
Lol, shitch has hit a plateu, massively down from last year, which was massively down from the year before.
>massively down from last year
This but PS5
>over 50% higher sales YOY
>"massively down"
what level of cope are you on?
I dunno, what level of cope are you on to compare 4 1/2 months of sales to 12 months, an over 150% increase in time being counted, and gloat about a 50% increase in sales?
It's Eric. He's a know shitposter
>what the frick does that make nintendo?
The company that kicked sony out of Japan
Are you talking about the disingenious famitsu charts, which purposefully omit digital and amazon sales, sony's two biggest markets, in favor of physical retail store sales, "coincidentally" the one market nintendo does better in?
>Are you talking about the disingenious famitsu charts, which purposefully omit digital and amazon sales, sony's two biggest markets, in favor of physical retail store sales, "coincidentally" the one market nintendo does better in?
Not talking about just sales, but content in general. What Sony themselves push. It's over, man. I hate seeing them like this myself, but you gotta face it. They're chasing after other markets.
>which purposefully omit digital and amazon sales, sony's two biggest markets, in favor of physical retail store sales, "coincidentally" the one market nintendo does better in?
I hate to break this to you but Nintendo dominates amazon anyway and the ratio of digital game sales is higher.
Look at amazon japan wishlists. Ps5 is CONSISTENTLY at the top.
I see no correlation between wish lists and sony's actual reported software sales
There are fricking shortages, moron. Wishlists show what people are actually hyped about when there's a massive shortage.
Let me know when that correlation occurs
That's because bots work in wishlists, meanwhile on the bestsellers the first Sony product is at 14 and its a prepaid card.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/bestsellers/videogames
Because sonygays are brand loyalists while "tendies" just enjoy video games. It's also why the term tendie has slowly become "someone who doesn't like Sony" rather than someone who likes Nintendo because let's be honest, you're called a tendie for everything nowadays.
>proves that playstation sales are mostly digital
Ok?
The issue is that the digital adoption rate is lower on PlayStation than it is on the switch.
Playstation digital sales are confirmed to be 60% in japan
No, Elden Ring is confirmed 60% digital in Japan and a big chunk of that is from PC.
Lol, a whole fricking 12 sales on steam. No one plays on pc in japan.
Wrong. By the way, digital adoption rate on console is 30% at most in Japan. They're slower to adopt digital distribution than we are over there.
That's probably what it's like for shitendo. It's confirmed 60% for playstation, and more like 80% in first world countries.
Nintendo's digital adoption is roughly 35%.
Sony without ps+ is around 30.
>No one plays on pc in japan.
Fortunately pc has been growing as a platform in Japan alongside the decline of Sony.
Source?
He's referencing Elden Ring sales in Japan. Bamco announced 1m sales in the region around the time physical sales were at 400k. So because PlayStation is the only platform where it launched physically, the snoys are assuming that ALL of the digital sales for ER are 60%. It's their last cope in a market where their platform is in its death throes.
Nope, it's a whole market average. And 30% is being really generous, it's more like 20%.
There is no confirmation that those 60% digital ER sales are on PS, and given trends it's more likely that a large number of of them were from PC. If you do the math and break it down by average:
>physical PS 400k
>digital PS 200k
>PC 400k
That would fit in line with average digital sales on console in the market, in fact that's being exceptionally generous assuming digital makes up 1/3 of the total sales on the platform in the region.
There's also Xbox as a potential factor, but that's lol
Cope harder
I accept your concession.
sony as any kind of japanese heavy company is dead. which is all that matters.
Personally it's to spite Sony after fricking me over.
>why would you play a hundred hours rpg on the single device that lets you play it literally wherever you want
After 10am tomorrow EST tendies will finally stop port begging for persona. Although they might only get 3 and 4
Hello Nintendo fans *spreads arms and hands wide open*
It's me Reggie Fils Anime
I really miss my time at Nintendo and being involved in exciting directs such as this one
Persona is not coming to switch
AAA game developer here for a world class studio (SIE), the switch is a piece of shit and can't run these games because it's a piece of shit kids tablet make for kids. It literally cannot run good games even if you tried.
Here's your persona 5 bro
>Gold Edition
>A-atlus can put p5r on switch if they took the time!
morons! They are literally putting upscaled p3p on modern consoles with nothing else done to it. This is the company that couldn't even be assed to properly port nocturne. Yet you think they are gonna go through the effort for p5r. LMAO
Is it better to play as male MC or female MC in the game? Lorewise i mean because Persona 5 base does not allow you this option. Will it ruin my experience if I play female MC?
You can't play as a female protag in any version of the game
Even on P5 royal? Isn't that the main point of that?
No that was just what Sony trannies were hoping for. The only game with a femC is p3 portable
Ok thanks for the info
Shitch is dead. The only people still buying it are tendies who need a replacement because they're fragile as shit and break all the time.
>because they're fragile as shit and break all the time.
It's currently the most durable system on the market.
You can't be fricking serious right now, please tell me you're at least getting paid for this shilling. You literally need to pay an additional $50 just for a case to keep it from falling apart, and the dock itself breaks it. The only thing the ps5 breaks is sales records.
>You literally need to pay an additional $50 just for a case to keep it from falling apart, and the dock itself breaks it.
But enough about the ps5. We're talking about the switch here anon, the system that can survive water damage and its screen, board and battery being cut into and a 100ft fall.
>The only thing the ps5 breaks is sales records.
Yeah for how slow a system can sell.
Dude, ps5s have LITERALLY been melting themselves and it can't even fricking stand on it's own.
Are you still quoting that debunked theory that because they upgraded the ps5 with a more efficient heatsink, that it's actually gonna somehow explode due to heat because the heatsink is smaller?
>debunked theory
Okay debunk it.
The ps5 revision literally runs cooler than the original
Source?
Okay your evidence?
Do you have internal temperatures or anything?
Do you know what you're talking about
The PS5 blowing out cooler air actually means the cooler is performing worse, because you want to move heat away from the APU as quickly as possible.
>with a more efficient heatsink
It's worse dude.
see
See
>they upgraded the ps5 with a more efficient heatsink
They actually gutted the heatsink so that they would profit more on their console. The heatsink performs worse on the new models but Sony makes more money off of it.
see
The revised ps5 actually expels less hot air which is why the vents are cooler but the internals are hotter.
>posts about DEBOOOOONKing
>likely referencing the video where the guy decided to claim that the new heatsink is SO efficent it breaks the laws of thermodynamics rather than admit he fricked up when placing his sensors
Kek
No need to lie, Zharkos
lol
Sonygays in denial are going to make these two videos more recognizable than foam
Why does anyone give a shit, anyone who wanted to play it already beat it years ago and it has zero replayability because the romances are tacked on 1 scene each at the end of the game, there is no point replaying 60+ hours just to do a different romance
I want 3 and 4 more.
These games are very good handheld games.
I'd be down for 3. I bought it on ps3 ages ago but its just fricking bad on Sony's shitty emulator.
4 has to be when Golden looks terrible on larger screens
JRPGS are literally for trannies. Which of you trannies got your surgery yet?
>persona 5 Will never be ported to pc
>persona 5 will never be ported to xbox series
>persona 5 will never come to gamepass
you are here now
>persona 5 will never be ported swtich
tic toc snoyboy
>a half decade late
It's never too late to curbstomp snoy cultists
Maybe I could see it if they ever release a switch pro, but with current nintendo hardware? not a chance.
>Cloud version, or just the default version with all the DLC sold separately
NINTENDO WON
I don't understand why anyone cares. P5 has been out since 2016, it was pretty much the final major PS3 game, a platform from 2006. Its plot is well known, it got an anime that's easily watchable. Like it's been prostituted out so much at this point that GTA V and Skyrim are slightly blushing. I understand people asking for SMT V on another platform, but who the hell cares about P5 at this point?
Haha snoy is mad he his game is on Xbox and pc. Can't bare to see on it switch too
I do, seeing as I played it on PS4 but later had to move from the platform thanks to overly restrictive content guidelines. Xbox is literally no better and Valve is completely inconsistent with their content policies, so I'd rather give my dollar to Nintendo.
It's a REALLY sad state of affairs when Nintendo of all companies is the least censorious console manufacturer to third parties.
>mfw nintendoers get Persona 5 But it's vanilla instead of royal
>can still frick the teacher
ok
wait can you not frick the teacher in royal? wtf?
Supreme court over turned roe v wade. Women are finished based
Explain?
I'm not American.
Nintendo maga cultists are celebrating human rights being returned to the dark ages because they're virgins
Conservatives just lost midterms several months early because states rights wasn't enough government control for them
Get fricked snoy trannies. YWNBARW
Abortion is no longer a protected right in the United States meaning each state has the right to either allow or criminalize abortion. It will be up to state officials and govenors. prostitutes are finished
>yfw cloud version
That would be bad for Atlus
Never gonna happen
This thread is proof that having a mental illness is a prerequisite for liking nintendo as an adult
t.
Don't care. Already played all of them.
YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COOMIIINGGG!! TO SWITCH!
See
Just watch it on youtube like all the other P5 fans
I really will be surprised if we don't get P5 on the Switch, the demented shitposter aside there really isn't any reason not to as both games with the same engine (Catherine) and assets (Strikers) are already on the machine. Now if we could just get a Bloodborne PC port I could sell my PS4 and never look back.
Oh cool, ports for games I've played fricking years ago. Man where the frick is Etrian Odyssey?
What's that? You want Persona Q3?
I'd really like to keep hoping EO isn't dead, Atlus usually goes radio silent for a long time on new games. But it's really been a long time at this point, the hope is fading.
i won't be surprised if a port comes eventually, but they absolutely aren't making it in secret and about to announce it in the direct like some morons think. some shit tier publishers like MAGES. do that kind of thing for attention but atlus doesn't. P5S and P4U2 were announced for PS4 and switch simultaneously, atlus has no reason to go "lol troled u" and announce they're working on switch ports of all the PS4/xbox games shortly after the initial announcement.
it's pretty fricking funny that PC is getting royal, after you could emulate it on RPCS3 as well.
PC always wins.
Royal is not a PS3 game
>the dog and the grapes
Nah its not. All platforms already got announced and switch is not it. Just get a steam deck losers
Can't wait for either side to melt down based on what goes down in a few hours lmfaooo
Would a modded switch be better than a steam deck?
A modded Switch isn't better than a 100$ phone, let alone a PC
From a market perspective, this makes no sense. Switch has a far greater userbase in Japan than Xbox, yet Atlus chose to port Persona to Xbox instead. I wonder why.