>Persona-lite
>Persona-lite
>Persona-lite
>Persona-lite
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>Persona-lite
>Persona-lite
>Persona-lite
>Persona-lite
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>Idol shit fails
>SMTV fails
>SH2 fails
When will Atlus realize people only care about the SMT ip for Persona?
>>SMTV fails
they're not squeenix, a million sales is not a flop for atlus.
I felt bait and switched--SMT V promo's seriously underplayed the barebones story or the extent of the open (empty) world.
You've clearly never played an SMT game before. They all have bare one stories and desolate worlds. Stick to Persona if you want a story based game.
Oh frick you, dude.
Case in point, those are spin-offs.
Hurr durr ok. Stop defending V. It was clearly trying to be persona and botw and failing at both in every way but gameplay.
??? SMT V spends it's entire runtime fellating Nocturne. The game would've unironically been better if they copied IV or even Apocalypse.
I don't give a shit about the crap you've consumed. How is SMTV like Persona?
Nocturnegays think dialogue = Persona.
No obviously high school being in the game = Persona.
Just ignore half the series where the protagonist is either in high school or high school age, including the original Megaten novel, those don't count
>Just ignore half the series where the protagonist is either in high school or high school age, including the original Megaten novel, those don't count
Or y'know, Nocturne, a game with high school protagonist, high school teacher being the neutral rep, high school kids being various alignment representatives, etc. Nocturnebabs are such dumb c**ts who entirely misses the point of both megami tensei and persona, just because it was the first entry they played after P3 when they were an edgy 13 year old and thinking SMT must only be good for gameplay and telling a decent story is bad because they got to wait a little longer to start auto-battling demons again
Shin is a spinoff
Based. Digital Devil Saga and Raidou had plenty of story to chew on. Hell, I would argue DDS had too much, I had to stop DDS2 at the final dungeon for several months because I was so exhausted.
DDS 2 was kind of pants on head moronic by the time you get to the last dungeon. It got so ridiculous that I was like
> Oh he died too? What a fricking surprise?
So I don't blame you.
Now post save file game time
>Spinoffs
moron
He's correct though, the story is never the focus of any mainline title. The one you might argue does the most is Strange Journey, but that's an exception to the rule, and even then, it still isn't much compared to your average JRPG. Why are so many Gankertards idiots that don't know that SMT is primarily a dungeon crawling JRPG?
These are spin-offs
SMT mainline games were always light on story.
I would advise you not to keep them in those plastic sleeves
That shit is made of pvc and over time will degrade, stick and melt to the disc
Based
So much SOVL, including the plastic case
This is what nu-Personagays actually believe.
>You've clearly never played an SMT game before
>played 2, NINE and DebiSama among others this year alone
>trying to tell me they had no story
Tired of Black folk like you, christ.
>They all have bare one stories and desolate worlds.
you just know this Black person thinks 4 is the best game in the series
IV is the best in the series. Nocturne homosexuals ruined V by constantly whining to Atlus.
So tired of IVBlack person zoomers like you. Die c**t die
>characters are literal waking alignment signs
>story is both moronic and a rehash of something they'd already done better
>smirk is the most broken pants on head shit in the series
>the companions are a close second
4gays are fricking morons
Your talking points are all reddit.
are literal waking alignment signs The story is the best of mainline SMT.
is the most broken pants on head shit in the series
Smirk is a great mechanic that incentivizes you to play the combat system properly. It's even made significantly better in Apocalypse
>>the companions are a close second
Ahhh, you were filtered by Minotaur. You could have just started with that you know.
Smirk is a shit mechanic that is made bearable in Apo, it is irredeemable garbage in IV, anon, also the story is your usual SMT fare but it is actually LE SCI-FI tweest with mikado and Tokyo. You could've said the characters were the best and I'd have agreed with you. But it does atmosphere much worse than nocturne.
Just chiming in to say I don't get the praise for Nocturne's atmosphere, because most things feel incredibly low stakes and disconnected, even compared to SMT1/2. Demifiend is so insanely passive and there's not a lot grounding the world to make you care about it.
Everything in Nocturne is disgustingly overrated and only lives on through nostalgia.
Everything the claim they love in Nocturne is what they say they hate in SMTV when it pretty just took what it had and improves it slightly. Kinda similar to a very different game Banjo Tooie, people claim they love that game but despise Yooka Laylee when it's literally the same game reskinned but without the nostalgia goggles.
But i love nocturne AND SMTV.
>Smirk is a great mechanic that incentivizes you to play the combat system properly.
>Gives you god mode if you hit an enemy weakness
>the enemy can also randomly wipe your party if they get lucky with a crit
>this is a great mechanic
why are 4gays like this? I think these morons have never played any videogames before smt4.
>cant defend shitty mechanic
>even posts an i famous example of rng making a bossfight outright impossible
>F-F-FILTERED!!!!
what was that you were saying about reddit talking points? kek.
Imagine being this moronic and not having killed yourself
SMTI: desolate world
SMTII: post apocalypse desolation
SMTII: the world is a literal rock garden
SMTIV: mikado is the only place where things are good
SMTV: another literal rock garden
Right back at you, it seems you've ONLY played Nocturne.
SMT 1, SMT 2, SMT IV and Apocalypse have very robust stories and their narrative drives the games.
this, i liked nocturne but coming back smt5 coming back to a barebones story despite all the interesting set up, characters and even vendors just felt like a huge fricking waste
It really feels like the only characters they had plans for were Sahori, Abdiel and Yakumo by the end. I know SMT V had a rough dev cycle but it feels like so much of the game ended up on the cutting room floor and the rest got cobbled together, plot wise.
I used to think the smt v maps were empty until I took a strode down sh2 halls of wasteland. I would happily sink in sand AGAIN.
I fricking wish SMT5 had a barebones story
SE seems to be happy with LaL remake just selling half million so far.
SMT V is the best selling mainline game of all time, its just a niche series, the name alone scares away the normies, unlike persona which is the mainstream animu version
>the name alone scares away the normies
This is true. I'm not even a normalgay and I have been here since 2008 but that name alone was the reason I didn't even look into the series until Ganker was seething about V so goddamn much that I had to see what it was all about and I fricking loved the game.
>>SMTV fails
Nice try but sad cope. The game was a huge success for the series
SMTV was the bestselling SMT yet.
>>SMTV fails
It didn't , also gameplaywise it's also the best SMT game, including persona 5
>Bu....but the story sucks!
He unironically plays games for the story and not the unique gameplay! HAHAHA!
>also gameplaywise it's also the best SMT game, including persona 5
What does SMTV even do that's better in gameplay than P5? During the Nintendo Direct their whole fricking sales pitch was
>H-hey, if you hit enemies with their weakness, they fall down! Isn't that innovative!? W-wha? No, Persona doesn't have that!
Pirate the game and find out.
>if you hit enemies with their weakness, they fall down!
Not how it works, Personabab.
Play the game snoyboy, and find out, you don't even need a switch , just emulate like the rest of us, it's a great game
which is better to use, ryujinex or yuzu
God all those framepacing and stuttering issues, and the bouncing between 40-60 FPS manage to make it worse than the Switch running at 30FPS.
Emulator gays will actually defend this.
Ryujinx if you want accuracy.
Yuzu if you want performance.
>Nov 11, 2021
Unbased moron.
Then why are you showing an old ass video instead of a video that's "so much better", moron.
I didn't show any video, you schizophrenic piece of shit.
>spergs the frick out
>doesn't post a better video
Same old song and dance with insecure emu poorgays.
>smt5 yuzu filtered by upload date
>smt5 ryujinx filtered by upload date
I have no need nor intention to do your homework for you.
I called you a moron because you sperged over a video that is almost a year old and took it as proof of the current state of SMTV while emulated, simple as.
Buzz off, moron.
>N-n-n-no u!
>proceeds to sperg out harder
>I-I-I don't need to show proof, it works perfectly now cuz I said so!
The absolute state of emugays, reminds me of the Deck thread the other day where people were bringing out the dirty laundry of shitty emulation and all of you emugays were having a unified existential crisis lol.
>>N-n-n-no u!
to sperg out harder
Again, the only one who's sperging out here is (You).
One needs no more than to look at your own posts to figure that much out.
>I-I-I don't need to show proof, it works perfectly now cuz I said so!
I didn't say that. Thanks for confirming that you are in fact a schizo though.
I repeat; I called you a moron because you sperged over a video that is almost a year old and took it as proof of the current state of SMTV while emulated, simple as.
>The absolute state of emugays, reminds me of the Deck thread the other day where people were bringing out the dirty laundry of shitty emulation and all of you emugays were having a unified existential crisis lol.
>More sperging out and a tight headcanon
Ok.
>two paragraphs when the entire thing can once again be summarized to just "No U!!"
Mind broken emugay.
>Schizophrenic headcanon-loving Anon can't read and keeps making headcanons
Unsurprising.
Keep that melty going spergy, the shitty emulation won't get better.!
Whatever you say Anon.
It's clear you already built a headcanon and you didn't even bother watching the newest video showing off how the game runs on either emulator.
You're dead set in sticking to your headcanon, so what even is the point of engaging any longer.
Listen, I'll leave you with a recap of this rather pointless discussion.
I really hope you reflect on it and grow as a person for the better, but I doubt that'll be the case. I still don't lose anything by trying.
So:
>I told you you're a moron for taking an almost 1 year old video as proof of the current state of SMTV on emulators
>You told me I linked said video (I didn't.)
>You then told me that I was sperging out (I wasn't, unlike you (
Emulator gays will actually defend this.). I called you a moron for acting like a moron.)
>You then told me I had to post a better video (because... ???)
>You then proceeded to cry about emugays being insecure or some shit.
>I told you how to check the current state of SMTV on emulators. I didn't need to, I was being a nice guy.
>You then proceeded to sperg out (again) (
>N-n-n-no u!
>proceeds to sperg out harder
>I-I-I don't need to show proof, it works perfectly now cuz I said so!
The absolute state of emugays, reminds me of the Deck thread the other day where people were bringing out the dirty laundry of shitty emulation and all of you emugays were having a unified existential crisis lol.) and telling me that it was me who was sperging out when I just wasn't.
>You then proceeded to say that I said that it worked perfectly (which I haven't because I didn't look it up myself.)
>You then proceeded to make some headcanon about "the state of emugays" (
>N-n-n-no u!
>proceeds to sperg out harder
>I-I-I don't need to show proof, it works perfectly now cuz I said so!
The absolute state of emugays, reminds me of the Deck thread the other day where people were bringing out the dirty laundry of shitty emulation and all of you emugays were having a unified existential crisis lol.)
>I told you that you're the only one who's sperging out here (which is clearly correct.)
>I told you that I didn't say the thing you said that I said, and repeated for the second time the reason why I called you a moron.
>After that I just refused to deal with your schizo shenanigans any further.
>Then you proceeded to make yet another headcanon (
Mind broken emugay.).
I seriously have no idea what's your endgame here. Regardless, it's clear that you need professional help.
Good luck Anon. I really don't want to keep interacting with an unhinged individual that is incapable of having a civilized conversation.
>Seething and sperging out so hard he wrote an entire essay
Also:
>spergs the frick out
Me? Surely you meant (You), see
.
>gameplaywise it's also the best SMT game, including persona 5
>slow as shit compared to the 3DS games
>fricking level scaling
>demon essences basically make fusion, the core mechanic of the franchise, pointless
lmao no
>>slow as shit compared to the 3DS games
>Pretending that you can't skip animations
level scaling
>In a game without random encounters
essences basically make fusion, the core mechanic of the franchise, pointless
Actual moron, why are nocturne babies like this?
Literally nobody except for autists and trannies care about this franchise. It will always live in the shadow of Persona. Even Simply Trans hated it. It's over.
>even trying to insinuate that they're even remotely comparable
snoi boi troony seethe.
Silly fujo fan-service from a spin off game (aka, not canon)
Actual canon mainline troonified mc design with feminine lashes, high heels and the shittiest haircut in jrpgs
You're right, they aren't.
>(aka, not canon)
>conveniently leaves out the Persona 4 image
KEK, narrative is in shambles.
i fricking hate trannies, and it's pretty clear that's just another femboy, but having a trans VA that goes around telling people their character is trans isn't really all that great for perception.
>but having a trans VA that goes around telling people their character is trans isn't really all that great for perception.
Except Nahobino's ENG VA never did that though and even then the game calls him Young Man.
essences basically make fusion, the core mechanic of the franchise, pointless
They don't anon because they're one time items and if you want another one of a specific demon you will need to do a a ton of grinding specially if you intend to use one same Essence over and over.
>it's also the best SMT game
that would be TMS
>Bu....but the story sucks!
Are you telling me that you play Rpg's NOT for the story? You know, the one fricking thing you think of most when you hear the term RPG
>>SMTV fails
by being the best selling game in the series?
>best selling game in the series?
doesnt mean much when you consider
all of the series sold like shit. nocturne's been sold and resold so many times and its total numbers are still pathetic.
and it didnt even approach persona sales anyway. Not that it ever will, considering the rereleases happening this october
>doesnt mean much when you consider
doesn't mean much when you consider how much of an explosion in popularity gaming has had in the last few decades.
SMT4 game out in what, like 2012? The amount of gamers today vs in 2012 is literally exponentially higher.
You have to REALLY frick up to sell worse than games sold in the past at this point.
Samegayging HARD
SMTV didn't fail and it was amazing, atlus failed to follow up on that with SH2 and wanted to chase some weird fricking trend with the money they made from it for some godforsaken reason. Japanese companies are so hilariously out of touch with their audience nowadays it's unreal.
>SMTV fails
I LOVE RINGO!
Is Ringo the Ringo of SMT protagonists?
Ringo is the Ringo of the universe
Add a Ringo in your life
oh my god, is that ringo from the beetles!?
Hell nah they have the same hairstyle
I don't think she wants to be under the sea.
I have the word ringo filtered because you guys made too many threads.
They are the most israeli company in japan. I pirated all the persona games / 13 sentinels, but i will just shit on the kusoges like this.
It's fricking over, Atlusbros...
Now even RGG Studio is showing us up...
don't buy DLC them you poor Black person
I dont buy kusoge so i dont have to worry about it. Will still laugh at atlus troons who consoom whatever they shit out.
>just accept having cut content at release
>just accept paying full price for a deliberately incomplete experience.
You are the cancer.
No, frick off and sell me full games or don't be surprised when I don't pay for a half finished product.
>the Lost Numbers
Xenoblade 3 collab DLC? How did Fatlus score that?!
>They are the most israeli company in Japan
You work for Square Enix?
Reminder one of those is an 1-hour long sidequest they had the gall to charge 10 Dollarinos.
>They are the most israeli company in japan
lol
lmao even
>he doesn't understand the meaning of the j- word
>primitive visuals
I hate game journos so much
Me too. It's sad that people can post a moronic snippet or headline like this and then everyone takes it seriously too.
It's like people can't form their own opinions these days and just look for whatever "hot take" they can latch on to.
It's just me bui i find the uncovered shoulders hot as FRICK?
delicious
Still not gonna play your visual novel and cutscene fest.
It's kinda sad because Soul Hackers 1 was probably the last "real" SMT game before all this Press Turn stuff.
SJ didnt have press turn though
Atlus deserves to have all their future projects flop for favoring the p3p can't over aigis and fes
Yes, I can't believe Atlus chose the bad version of a bad game instead of this other bad version of a bad game
Persona 3 is the best Persona. Not up for debate
Not even close. Persona 4 shits on it. Even Persona 5 is vastly superior.
obviously, since P5 is vastly superior to every other mainline game
Persona 4 is kiterally just a casualized rehash of 3 with a moronic plot.
>Casualized
There was nothing hard about 3 outside Elizabeth. Once you know the party command loop, everything else is RNG.
>Persona 4 is kiterally just a casualized rehash of 3 with a moronic plot.
>Implying P3 didn't already have a moronic plot and characters
>Implying P3 is remotely hard in any sort of way even in spite of the dogshit AI mechanic
I fricking hate P3gays so fricking much, stop defending this shit game just because it made you cried with it's contrived ending when you were 12
>contrived ending
This
>Nothing is outside the realm of possibility for you now.
Except, you know, getting rid of Nyx in a manner that won't take you down with it. You gotta read the fine print.
That whole sacrifice shit with the MC I always thought since playing it the first time was beyond moronic and forced, it was just done because it was trying to get player to feel something while playing the game. You could make the argument that it kind of ties in with the themes of death in the game, but if that's the case, they could have tied it more naturally in the story. Like set up that the MC is going to die, instead of just pulling it out of their ass on the very last day. This was something I feel P4 and P5 did better, because they set up from the start that MC at the end is going to leave the party to go back home and they work that angle better to create more of an emotional send off thing than what P3 does. What's even worse is that Atlus can't even stick to fact that the P3 MC will stay permanently dead since they keep implying in shit like the answer and P4A that "oh, if we believe hard enough, he might just come back to life" so much for sticking with the message of "memento mori" and death is going happen so make the most of it. What a pathetic joke of a game, can't believe people still defend P3 as the best persona game or one of their favourite games. The only good thing P3 ever did, was that it set up the basis for actual good games P4 and P5
Yeah, the P3 camp kinda loves to gloss over just how many issues the game's pacing and plot really have.
tbf, the P3 camp really enjoys the act of glossing over the fact that their favourite game is incredibly shitty just so they can continue jerking each other off and being mad at other megaten and persona games for being more successful and being better games. It's probably why they dislike P5 the most, it took a lot of the downer and melancholy stuff from P3 but gave it more substance instead of just pissing and moaning on about for 90 hours. and not only that, but the actual game itself was good with shit like actual dungeon designs, improved gameplay with having shit like demon negotiation and all of the improvements brought over from P4 and good music
>how many issues the game's pacing and plot really have.
Don't even get me started on the absolute fricking nothing that happens for 60% of the game
Okay ESL, whatever you say. Please continue to suck P3's dick, it'll always be surpassed by many other megaten, persona and JRPGs in general in terms of, writing, themes, gameplay, visuals, audio, characters, etc. Even the other nu-persona games are significantly better. Just the fact your best defence for P3 is shitting on better games is pathetic, it's a game you can't even defend based on it's own merits
You're trying to act like people defend the gameplay and systems in play in P3 which is flat out untrue.
The writing in P3 isn't this utter matterpiece but it completely shits all over the absolute horrid dog shit that's in P4 or especially P5.
And even outside of story you have shit like the fricking horrendous pacing and terrible personality system of P5 that just shits all over the gameplay aspects as well.
>You're trying to act like people defend the gameplay and systems in play in P3 which is flat out untrue.
Except, you know, it happens anytime someone brings up they don't like shit like the AI party mechanics, tired mechanic, Tartarus being boring as bat shit, etc. the P3 defense force quickly comes in and yells "filtered" or "no, it's meant to be shit." But hey, selective listening and reading is something I should expect from Personagays at this point
>The writing in P3 isn't this utter matterpiece but it completely shits all over the absolute horrid dog shit that's in P4 or especially P5.
But that's the thing, it's not even good to begin with. I get liking a decent story that isn't fricking a masterpiece, but saying P3 is above average in terms of storytelling is lying. The thing I hate the most about the story is that it insists upon itself like Omori or Celeste. P4 wasn't even trying to be remotely deep or confound, it just trying to tell a mystery story with some scenes of character development. it worked better there since the writing wasn't meant to be anything fantastic. it knew what it wanted to do and sticked with it. P5 has similar pacing issues to P3 but the themes it presented was more varied and was more willing to experiment about talking about different subjects like escapism with Maruki or the stuff with Yaldaboath or Sae. Persona 3 drags on the memento mori and depression/death stuff but doesn't do anything interesting with it to warrant dragging out those concepts for 90 hours straight. If you want a megaten story that tackles similar themes much better, play SMT3 or Persona 2ISEP, and even then those games still have story issues
>fricking horrendous pacing
Have you played P3 at all recently? that game has story pacing issues coming out of its ass
>terrible personality system of P5 that just shits all over the gameplay aspects as well.
what are you trying to say here? do you mean social stats that were also in P3 and 4?
>Have you played P3 at all recently? that game has story pacing issues coming out of its ass
P3 never has you spend an entire week (multiple times through out the game) having an annoying c**t of a cat telling you can't do anything so go straight to bed.
>what are you trying to say here? do you mean social stats that were also in P3 and 4?
P5 tripled the amount of time it takes to level of your social stats, and many Confidents as soon as their 3rd level demanded that you have a specific stat completely maxed out (unlike other games were you only needs it to 1/2 or 3/4 leveled) which walls you out from being able to do anything meaningful and just do these insufferably terrible part time jobs that take way too much time to get through.
P3 just has the characters do flat out nothing, and hell, minmaxing is outright ignoring the gameplay until the last free day because the game can't softlock you into being tired before the boss.
Also you say tripled the amount of time like P3 isn't four times as strict about requirements.
>Also you say tripled the amount of time like P3 isn't four times as strict about requirements.
Because it isn't LMAO, there's only 3 stats versus 5 in P5 and no character demands a maxed out social stat as soon as their 3rd link.
And spending time leveling a stat only takes 5 seconds compared to 2 minutes in P5.
>P3 never has you spend an entire week (multiple times through out the game) having an annoying c**t of a cat telling you can't do anything so go straight to bed.
Fair point, P5R did dramatically cut down on that shit, and even in P5 once you get the massage service, that shit becomes less of a problem. The issue with your argument is that I was arguing that P3 had story pacing issues, the morgana thing is not a story pacing issue, it's a gameplay issue more than anything. Persona 3 has long stretches of frick all meaningful happening, where while P4 and 5 has the same issue, it's nowhere near to the same extent.
>P5 tripled the amount of time it takes to level of your social stats, and many Confidents as soon as their 3rd level demanded that you have a specific stat completely maxed out (unlike other games were you only needs it to 1/2 or 3/4 leveled)
Did we even played the same game? Persona 3 is the worse out of the Nu-persona trilogy when it comes to do this shit. If you think having confidants be stopped at a certain social link level because your social stats isn't maxed out, Persona 3 flat out has a couple of social links you can't start unless you've maxed out your social link stat. Also out of the games, it's the one you spend most of your time slots at cafes and studying at night just to rank up your social stats. worse of all, it's reliant on the MC getting lucky with social stats while studying to get multiple points the most out of any persona game. At least in P4 and P5 you can read books to raise social stats faster both short term (with immediate stats boosts) and long term (with books to raise how many knowledge points you gain during studying permanently) How are you this bad at P4 and 5 you can't manage the opportunities for free reading and answering classroom questions?
Also, good job with the "You're trying to act like people defend the gameplay and systems in play in P3 which is flat out untrue." when homosexuals like >611594332
show up
The gameplay really is not bad you pissbaby
no, you're right, it's not bad. it's just pretty fricking dreadful is all.
>Those weeks of go straight to bed were ALL points were absolute frick all happen in the story and is just "yes we wait for the calling card, now let's keep waiting"
So the exact same thing P3 does. Where the characters just sit around and jerk each other off and talking to them before the next floor of tarturus or full moon boss amounts to “wait for the full moon boss, let’s keep waiting”
>Did forget but there's only 2
It’s Misturu, Fuuka, Yukari and if we are talking portable it’s also Ken
>Those added books because they increased the social stats from 3 to 5 on top of P5 tripling the point requirements.
I’m gonna do some math here but the total amount of points to level all social stats in P3 is 420, P4 is 735 and P5 is 660. So ok, P3 has lesser stat requirements than P4 and P5, maybe not tripled that of P5 as you were claiming or even doubled, but it’s still more regardless. However, when you do take into account that significantly more often than in P3 you’ll be scoring two and three stats points in P4 and P5, that gap between earning points in P3 than P4 and 5 gets to the point where you spend overall less time levelling up social stats than P3, where you rarely get two or three points per go, thus, you’re required to spend more time studying and going to cafes and all of that shit. Even better in P5 as previously mentioned, you get a lot of free opportunities to raise your stats, either by reading on the train or slacking off during class to raise other stats, even stuff like creating dungeon items will net you points in proficiency, P4 also did this with certain social links like Sakoyo or Eri where by doing their social links you also gain social status points while doing so
On my first run of P5 I maxed out all confidants and social stats without assistance and still had time left over if i need it. I don't know what to tell you outside of get good
>So the exact same thing P3 does. Where the characters just sit around and jerk each other off and talking to them
Flat out on true, there points were you can't do certain social links with your part members but you still have full liberty to do anything else unlike P5.
>there points were you can't do certain social links with your part members but you still have full liberty to do anything else unlike P5.
Are you seriously going to try and convince me that only P5 has mandatory story days that you can't do anything on? Something that was also present in P3 and P4 for up to a few days or week at a time where you do nothing but watch a story related cutscene and forced to go to bed, maybe if you're really lucky you can study at night or play the arcade machine.
>there points were you can't do certain social links with your part members
Yeah, all 3 of the party members you can do social links with that don't unlock until you max out your social stats. The rest of which is all conveyed through story cutscenes. Story cutscenes that prevents you doing stuff during the day and even at night, forcing you to go to bed
>Persona 3 has long stretches of frick all meaningful happening, where while P4 and 5 has the same issue, it's nowhere near to the same extent.
Those weeks of go straight to bed were ALL points were absolute frick all happen in the story and is just "yes we wait for the calling card, now let's keep waiting"
>Persona 3 flat out has a couple of social links you can't start unless you've maxed out your social link stat
Did forget but there's only 2, Mitsuru and Ken (lol), but again for the case of Ken he comes so late in the game you probably already have Courage maxed.
>At least in P4 and P5 you can read books to raise social stats faster both short term
Those added books because they increased the social stats from 3 to 5 on top of P5 tripling the point requirements.
>Also, good job with the "You're trying to act like people defend the gameplay and systems in play in P3 which is flat out untrue." when homosexuals like >611594332
That post came after mine, don't expect me to see the future.
They took all the "go to bed" stuff out in Royale and it became very apparent that it was originally gated like this to not make 100%'ing on your first playthrough a total joke
In Royale if you already beat 5 and know what to do you'll have something like a month worth of extra days over the game where there's nothing to do but go to the gym or temple
>Persona 3 flat out has a couple of social links you can't start unless you've maxed out your social link stat
Are you fricking seriously gonna use this? It's literally 3 social links that don't unlock until midway through. Meanwhile, almost every Persona 5 link gets stopped by you not having proper stats meaning that you need to do NG+ on a game that's already 100 bajillion fricking hours long to get a really authentic experience out of it.
3 is still better
>4 is cringe friendship shit with each being the only somewhat likable character due to how realistic he was
>5 is literally style and no substance while having flimsier themes than 3, especially with how cringe the OT are
>Like set up that the MC is going to die, instead of just pulling it out of their ass on the very last day.
Did you fricking play the game? MC is already an animated corpse. He's some random kid who died on the bridge and got reanimated by death so that death could hide inside him. He was supposed to collapse like a puppet with its strings cut the moment death became the Herald but continued existing because of wildcard velvet room bullshit.
>Did you fricking play the game?
As a matter of fact, I did and thought it was one of the worst games i've finished that wasn't an actual kusoge (along the lines on Takeshi's Challenge or Paris Dakar Rally Special), but that's besides the point. He still didn't die, the whole shit about the MC not dying was only because he had the wildcard potential, not because death was sealed with him beforehand, he still would have survived that situation regardless of if Aigis sealed death inside of him. It was purely done for the benefit of Aigis since she wasn't able to kill Nyx at the time. Worse off, that cutscene explaining that shit was on early december, which at that point, who gives a shit? you're going to bring up such plot crucial shit towards the end of game, just to justified that at the very last minute the MC sacrificed himself to make the sissies who were playing the game cry at the end. Give me a fricking break. So to me, the whole MC sacrificing shit was still forced, he still didn't have to die outside the fact the writers were pants on head moronic, and if he had the potential to do anything, he would have survived regardless, but Atlus needed the "glorious MC sacrifice to make the story mean something" scene
No it's not, it's the worst one by far. even the Ps1 persona games are better than 3. I've been playing through Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei, and I had way more fun and was more invested playing Megami Tensei 1 and 2 over Persona 3
This man is also right, P4 and P5 are significantly better
You are trolling hard, Persona 1 is one of the most tedious boring JRPGs I have ever played. For every cool feature or thing the game does, there's constant ten minute random battles that are both easy and take forever to get through. No one actually thinks Persona 1 is good.
Persona 1 is fine, and I have no reason to troll because i genuinely like it, unlike P3. i've played other FPDC megaten games that are better than P1, like soul hackers, strange journey and hell, i even prefer megami tensei 2 and SMT if... over P1. But P1 is still a decent dungeon crawler with only a few issues like aforementioned constant random battles, guns snapping the game in two, and players and persona level ups being seperate for some dumbass reason. I still will rather play P1 over P3, but then again no P3gays have bothered to play P1 or the other megaten games in fear that they might prefer it over their precious little sissy homosexual game
Yeah, vanilla P5 is better than P3fes. sure base P5 is worse than even base P4, but they're still games I would call good, unlike P3. If you want to start bringing in updated versions like P4G and P5R considering P3F is just that, it's not even a fricking contest that P4G and P5R fricking destroys P3F
Both versions of 5 and Eternal Punishment are better.
P4 I'll give but P5, especially vanilla P5?
Reminder that Yukari spent the entirely of the game b***hing and moaning about everything. Atlus hasn't written a realistic female character since her.
>nooo why is the character with ample reason to be upset being mean to everyone!!!
Oh yeah I am sorry. I forgot the part where Junpei murders her father and ruins her relationship with her mother. No wonder she took him and door-kun to a dark dangerous alley to get killed.
>stupid teenager does something moronic
I'm not gonna argue P3 had some flawless writing but people seem to conflate characters doing bad things with poor writing
I'm not implying that Persona 3 has bad writing. On the contrary, it has great writing. Yukari is a well written woman. She behaves just like one. She never apologized for almost getting you all killed either.
Only reason people prefer p4 and 5 to p3 is because they lean a lot harder into the friendship simulator and they're all lonely homosexuals who cried at the end when the mc got on the train.
>Only reason people prefer p4 and 5 to p3 is because they lean a lot harder into the friendship simulator and they're all lonely homosexuals who cried at the end when the mc got on the train.
Or because Inaba is far comfier than Iwadotai/(?) and because P4's OST is far better than P3's with all its moronic rap hip-hop bullshit.
The cast of P4 is more likable too.
>Inaba is far comfier
>The cast of P4 is more likable
So like that guy said, P4 appeals to lonely homosexuals.
I'm married though.
>Only reason
Did you forget about the part where there's only one dungeon in P3 where you go every time, always look the same, always the same music and you do this shit for almost the entire game? You go up the stairs. Everywhere look the same. If you're lucky you might see the hallway change colors a little bit.
What exactly does P3 REALLY have over P5 once you remove the last month?
Worse customization.
Character development is worse.
Villains are so bad, they're completely forgettable.
Dungeon"s" are way more blander and unimaginative.
Agreed 100%
>Best Social Links
>Best soundtrack
>Best party
>Best story
>Best atmosphere
Anons just piss themselves over tactics system and tartarus, neither of which were a problem for me when I was playing and I don't even like JRPGs
>Best Social Links
P4 > P3 > P5
>Best soundtrack
P3 > P5 > P4
>Best party
P4 > P3 > P5
>Best story
P4 > P5 > P3
>Best atmosphere
P4 > P3 > P5
Anyone who seriously tries to claim that P3 had a passable or good story is either looking at it through the most rose tinted glasses imaginable or allowing the most absolutely ridiculous handwaves to just fall off their back. It doesn't even HAVE a story for 2/3'rds of the game, and when it starts info-dumping you at the end, the whole fricking setup is "An entire organisation of the most brilliant, well funded scientists in the world all decide to commit suicide. Only one of them backs out of this plan."
Nevermind that FES quite literally changed the story so that Chisato is RESURRECTED because of the power of love. Sucks to be Shinji, I guess nobody loved him, because he stays dead like a b***h. Lol. Lmao even.
Nevermind that The Answer exists and takes an enormous shit all over P3's atmosphere, tone and story. Literally just lazy retcon after cheap emotional pandering after weak copouts.
Anon, the people who wrote P3 are gone or promoted out of the design. Whatever plan they may have had with door-kun beyond that game died with them. Just try to remember the good times.
MegaTen games being called "Persona-lite" is the funniest shit ever. So much for the "hardcore JRPGs for elite gamers".
SMTsisters.....
Soul Hackers 2 iz not SMT
Its almost as if SMT games are not good outside Persona unless you are a weebington...
Basadisimo. Frick Ringo, frick her game, frick Ishida and frick any the Gankerermin who shills this piece of soulless garbage here.
Posting a pissing thread everyday is not how you shill games,OP
That what they said about TMS, and it ended up being the best game in the series.
Journos and reviewers are gonna call the next Etrian Odyssey a Persona Q spin-off or some such shit aren't they.
Turn-based Dark Souls
It would be turn-based Elden Ring nowadays. Because having bosses at the end of a perilous stage full of dangers and equally terrifying monsters is just like it.
>the next Etrian Odyssey
>the next
haha...
Any day now
journos praised the last of us 2 and other shit titles with huge budgets and shit gameplay. what kind of homosexual one must be to even considering listening to them.
>souls lite
>rogue lite
>x lite
Frick this new Black person speak.
>Major tech problems.
Frick them. We need more games with normal budgets. Everything being either a Hollywood movie heavily aimed at normies or a 16 bits indie game is unhealthy for the industry.
Not an excuse to have a game that drops to 7 frames moron
I have the game, most of the time the frame rate is good. A lot of people here has attacked SH 2 only because it doesn't have a huge budget. Tons of morons only spend their money on AAA games and buy anything else from the bargain bin. Meanwhile normies always support their crap, that's one of the reasons companies appeal to them and give them expensive games.
Compared to SMT V:
>better story
>better characters
>stats actually matter
>no dumb level scaling
>no deserts full of nothing
>no dampeners
>more shopkeepers
>better atmosphere
>better protagonist
>game has actual themes and messages
>better combat flow
>no yaoi bait
Stop listening to dumb journos and buy Ringo's game.
>not on Switch but still looks like a Switch game
hard pass
Switch could never run a game like this.
You're right, the devs are too incompetent to get it running acceptably on anything less powerful than a 3060.
>Shit gameplay
>No demon team
>Awful visual design
>Worse atmosphere
>Shit protagonist
>No demi-fiend
>MUH THEMES AND STORY
>No hot characters
Cope, Soulless Hacks.
Ringo isn't cute so no thanks
her VA and lines are so trash
>Get info from journalist website
Your funeral, homosexual.
It’s too bad the game was mostly shit, the protagonist was the best one in any SMT, she actually has voice acting and snippy dialogue even though she looks weird and animey. I’m tired of school aged protagonists, smt4a and v had such shitty protagonist designs but were otherwise good games. Again smt4a has shitty supporting character dialog but the rest of the game is amazing.
>I’m tired of school aged protagonists
High school in Japan is the equivalent to being a 30 year old in the West. Once you pass that age, your life's over, you might as well die. That's why nearly every piece of Japanese media focuses on high schoolers like every piece of American media focuses on 20-30 year olds.
I'm still sick of it. I don't care about the cultural reasons why. There are plenty of Japanese games that focus on middle-aged characters now. Fricking Atlus is stuck in the past.
Blame the moronic journo for calling it that, not Atlus for just making the game.
gay dont even bother linking to article for he knows theres nothing but shit to ridicule the author about.
Journo is right, it's Persona-lite
Though calling stylized artstyle "primitive visuals" does make the journo an absolute moron
So how long is the game?
what are the must play SMT games including spinoffs?
Nocturne or IV
DDS
Strange Journey
Both Devil Survivor rereleases
So how are they going to kill DDS next?
>Not disowning Atlus since SMTV released, maybe even P5
lol
on the other hand I don't think they coined the Persona-lite term, that's probably all on the homosexual journo
Game journalists should be tricked into going to a soilent tasting event, where in reality they will be blindfolded then tossed into the deep wilderness. They'll let out their weak onions squeals, all while soiling their Star Wars™ boxers in fear. And they'll throw away their box of rations after realising it does not contain their Nintendo Switches.
You've never spent a single night outdoors, larping moeshitter DOG.
>I will pirate their games every chance I get from now
> he doesnt know
KEK moronic Black person
One of my favorite thing about these threads is seeing all the snoys still having mental break downs and spouting of their desperate narrative of:
>SMT5 FAILED, SALES DON'T MATTER THEY DON'T, BEST SELLING DOESN'T COUNT, BEST REVIEWED DON'T COUNT!
>DOESN'T COUNT, DOESN'T COUNT DOESN'T COUNT DOESN'T COUNT, STOP POSTING THE 1 MILLION CELEBREATION ART IT DOESN'T COOOOOOOUUUNNNT!!!!!!!
>desperate tendie trying to make this a consolewar thing
kek.
>bu-but muh 1 million!
wow, fantastic, good job. You're a big boy now! maybe someday you'll even hit 1.5 million! Just like Perso-
>20+mil, still selling to this day
oh uh, well, do your best!
Who cares about Persona, SMTV was more fun and still had a better story. And it’s a good thing that it sold well, doing things like invading Garuda’s nest should be in every SMT game from now on
>>>>snoy has to compare the entire persona series sales to make it look like it's that much bigger than just SMTV
Snoy is mind broken. Persona 5 isn't even as big as they make it out to be as it sold 3.2 million which is even't much more than other recent releases of big RPGs franchises that aren't Final Fantasy since that still sells way more.
>Persona 5 isn't even as big as they make it out to be as it sold 3.2 million
Are those numbers from 5 years ago, moron?
>Trust me bro! it kept selling for another 18 million+!!
The best you can do is point at Royal which sold 1.8 million but at least 90% of that was just double dipping.
nailed it lmao
dont worry, I'll be sure to remind you of your irrelevance once the P5R rerelease comes out. Remember, picrel happened in a mere month on just steam.
>>
4 Golden
>Trying to talk about multiplatform sales against a console exclusive.
KEK, snoy can't even separate reality from delusion any more.
Also persona 5 Royal may sell 1 million copies on steam IF it releases at $20 like P4G did, otherwise expect it to be lucky if it caps at a life time of 200k if it releases at a full $60.
>Trying to talk about multiplatform sales against a console exclusive
>he doesnt know
>still screaming Im a snoy
kek delusion is pretty much all you've got now, tendie. You really are a sad, sad sight
Literally zero argument at all in that word salad LMAO, stay mind broken and seething snoy.
I haven't experienced any technical issues aside from the long loading times between gameplay locations. Other than that I'm still enjoying the game. I just wish it were longer
If you go into settings on loading and set it to hide the loading screen tips, it will load areas a lot faster. I think it's because it's trying to juggle loading the new area and displaying the loading screen tips.
>Soul Hackers 2 flops
What went wrong?
I liked SMTV but the difficulty felt severely railroaded for me. I could be what I figured was a bit underleveled and the game would become impossible, and then I'd level up a few times and it would become almost too easy, like there's a very specific range of levels you should be inside of or you frick up your experience a bit.
The level adjustment for damage is way too extreme in both directions. If the game ever gets ported to PC that'd be the first thing I'd hope would get modded (but won't because Atlus is the type of company to think Denuvo is still a good idea in the year 2022).
Play another RPG series if you think SMTV isn't a barebones story. It really is the same as Nocturne where you just go on a bunch of fetch quests with a loosely connected narrative, with exposition dumps in between.
Yeah I'm hoping a nice hardtype mod comes out for SMTV or something, a rebalance to deal with the adjustments. I have no idea why they did it.
Your game is dead SMTrannies, now Persona is the new king of JRPG.
>SMTrannies
I dunno dude, Persona is the only game where the MC canonically cross dress....I don't even need to post fanart and meme edits this is a real thing
delete these right now
>Barely trying crossdressing as a joke = trannies
Full "those who hunt monsters become monsters themselves" moment.
Not to mention that it's literally from a spinoff dancing game for fujos. There's no way someone would consider that "canon" in good faith.
>official renders
>Atlus couldn't be fricked making sure Ryuji's leg wasn't clipping through his skirt
but why
Granted, the rest have issues too but they're not as obvious. It's a still fricking pose.
Refer to this post
and you will find the answer you seek.
>SMTrannies
uh....snoybro....?
Where does he keep all that hair? His normal look has him appear like a spiky haired lesbian.
>there's trannies in Persona now
PREORDER CANCELLED
>PREORDER CANCELLED
Anon... this game is 14 years old.
>SH2 is inevitably shit and pleased no one like expected
>All of a sudden people are dick sucking SMTV and calling it good while this shithole, the /vg/ general shithole, and journalists were shitting on the story and the gameplay being ass/too easy while the journos and ecelebs kept memeing that V was just "persona without the soul"
Both SH2 and V are dogshit games
Your opinion isn't worth shit and half your post is a lie, nocturne baboo.
Cope, V was dogshit too
>Ass gameplay even by smt standards
>Barely any story at all
But enough about Nocturne, SMTV is far better and you will keep seething.
SMTV is just as garbage as SH2. Even the 4 duology had better gameplay and plots despite being full on moronic retreads of 1 & 2. Meanwhile V tried to do that with nocturne and flopped in both areas
Ask me how I can tell you've literally never played an SMT game
>b-b-but I totally have, look at this screenshot I grabbed from some other guy's twitter!
Pitiful
V unironically has less story than nocturne
Nocturne has negative story.
>thinking that SMTV sucks means you're a nocturne gay
Lmao
idk runs 200 fps on 1860p for me
I just bought SMTV, have 0 knowledge of it or expectations other than I know Pixie's slave is in the game, there's a blue haired demon girl with platform shoes I want to suck my dick, and I'm gonna be playing a femboy.
Redpill me on SMTV: is it really as shit and rushed as people say it is or is this some /vg/ shit like the P3P vs FES autism?
The game is fantastic, it's only snoys and nocturne babies (there's major cross over between these two) that cry over it.
It's mostly /vg/ shit, V really is not that different from other SMT games beyond the surface level. If you like SMT, you'll probably like V. If you obsess over SMT, you'll probably hate V.
It's just the unhinged ramblings from a schizo Brazilian Snoygger. SMT V's pretty fricking great, it has room for improvement but the positives greatly outweigh the negatives.
If its your first Smt game, you’ll probably like it. If you played the other ones and have standards, it will be disappointing. Most people want a Maniax version developed, but we’ll see what happens. Personally, I think they’re just going to drop everything and focus on Persona
>Maniax version
Nocturne baboo spotted, nocturne is fricking shit everything you b***h about in SMTV is in nocturne but even worse there.
SMTgays always hate on the new one. Never fails
Its just tendies overpraising it and shitting on Nocturne for no reason
>shitting on Nocturne for no reason
>no reason
It's time to take off the nostalgia goggles.
It's ok but it's sorely lacking in narrative hooks. Unfortunately Atlus listened to the loud Nocturnegays and as a consequence, the game feels like a step down from IV/Apocalypse.
It's the best game in the series.
Gameplaywise it's fine if somewhat flawed with stuff like the Level Scaling and bosses having predictable pattern but it's not the abomination /smtg/ wants you to think it is. The biggest issue is the fact that the plot does feel lacking yeah but a lot of the stuff you see is /vg/ autism
It's average at best and that makes it disappointing for smt mainline.
It feels rushed and like it's missing a bunch of content. The only thing it has going for it is Press Turn, everything else is mediocre. I enjoyed Crystal Project more, both are jrpgs with no story but decent gameplay but Crystal Project had much better exploration and combat.
It is, nintendogaf pretends it's a masterpiece
V is basically a better version of nocturne. Dogshit story, great combat
Iv and sj are still superior games to either
>Persona-lite
Literally fricking how?? You can’t self insert as a Chad male protagonist. A cute mascot bear/cat will never cheer you on and say “PRETTY COOL ANON” to increase your self esteem and confidence. Also, you can’t date hot girls and have everyone at high school worship your dick. In what FRICKING world is this like Persona at all???????? I think the meme is true. Journalists don’t even play the games. They don’t even know why Persona is the most successful Atlus franchise in history
Is Alice in meme hackers 2? If not then I will wait for a sale or some autist to crack it
no
No, not even in the scam day 0 DLC.
>primitive visuals
For being a PS5 it looks worse than Tokyo Mirage Sessions with some terrible animations.
Someone post the Ringo ass slap webm.
This game would've looked primitive in the PS2 era. For the PS5 era, it's unacceptable.
FRICK GRAPHICSgayS
graphics are one thing but when the animations are worse than a lot of PS2 games then you know there's some serious issues.
Jank animations are peak SOVL
It's not purely a graphics thing, the performance is not good either. It would be understandable if the game ran really smoothly, but it doesn't. With proper engineering effort a game with these close to these visuals could run on the Switch but this runs at like 20 fps on Xbox One
>and I will pirate their games every chance I get from now on
Lol don’t pretend you already weren’t, homosexual.
Game journalists deserve to be lined against a wall and shot.
Why the spite between Nocturne and V? They're both great games. V is basically the spiritual successor (as well as probable direct sequel) to nocturne. Did people forget that nocturne is on Switch too? I love both games ;-;
V is better than nocturne tho.
just use the proper genres you fricking piece of shit, persona-lite, souls like, metroidvenia, those aren't fricking genres
>primitive visuals
Is it an ASCII game?
Bring back truma center Atlus
Told ya it's shit, but you b***hes tried to argue with me in the neighboring thread. Now suffer the consequences, lmao.
>He doesn't enjoy Shin Megumi Tensei: Persona: Shin Megumi Tensei: Soul Hackers 2
>game looks like a PS3/360 game visually and technically
>barely holds 30fps on a PS4/Xbone
>ideally played on a higher end PC or a PS5
>runs on Unity
How do you frick up this bad? SMT5 was blurry as frick on a Switch, but it was still doing more, especially with the constrained hardware involved.
I feel like this was originally a 3DS game or something being made by a C-team.
Doubt it. This game is a thing due to one of the official polls and the OG Soul Hackers getting a ton of votes from Japanese fans, not to mention SEGA wanted to push this thing.
>Fans want a Soul Hacker follow-up
>New game has nothing to do with it other than name
Fricking Monkey Paw.
Depending on how the question was phrased, Japs probably answered that expecting a port or remake, not whatever this was.
Soul Hackers 2 doesn't even work as a reboot if we follow Sega's criteria.
Shit programmers. They didn't use any of Unity's advanced features like the High Definition Render Pipeline or even the Universal Render Pipeline where Atlus seems to be using the default pipeline. That's why a load of graphical effects were just pain missing which Unity is capable of like anti-aliasing, ambient occlusion and etc. The engine isn't the limiting factor when it can do demos like this.
Who would've thought that Atlus was full of incompetent programmers?
>Soul Hackers 2 thread immediately starts complaining about SMT V
THE BLASPHEMOUS MIGHT OF THE NAHOBINO
Persona is Atlus' flagship series now
Get used to it, SMTrannies
>Couldn't even sell a fraction of smt5 despite being on every console and pandering to personagays
Pathetic
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
persona troons get what they deserve
now the persona fans are twitter troons and wokies
>now
They've been that since Penis-onna 4.
Why does Atlus have so many teams? For a company that has one truly successful series (Persona) and one semi-successful (SMT) they spread themselves way too thin. Plus all they make are jrpgs
itt stupid idiots argue which jrpg is better when theyre all bad
great banter, do you want a fricking reward now?
I liked Figue.
>SMT
>PERSONA IS SMT-LITE
>SOUL HACKERS IS PERSONA-LITE
watering down continues
I guess you could say Soul Hackers 2 I'd Persona without the heart.
Soulless Hacks
*Basedlenт homosexuals II: Erectile Bugaboo
Please spell title of the gaym correctly.
MOTHERFRICKER.
Jeez louise these threads went to shit FAST
I played a trial of it at a friend's house who has PS plus... it ran fine and looked ok other than being kinda sparse in the details. What gives? This was never going to be a Persona-level type of game.
Personally I like Persona 3 more than 4 because the party members have their arc separate from your social links with them. In P4, characters like Yosuke, Chie, and Kanji never really develop in the main plot outside of your Social Links, so you have them essentially remaining static in their personality for the entire game.
SO IS SOUL HACKERS 2 GOOD OR BAD?!
GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT BROS.
The character writing is very good. They take the nihilistic and gloomy theme prevalent in cyberpunk themed stuff but still try and add something optimistic to it. Saizo, Arrow and Figue all keep the themes from being fully dark because of their hopeful natures.
Gameplay wise it reminds me of Nocturne, really. Not of Persona at all.
The dungeons are like Nocturne (corporate buildings, subway tunnels)
The battle system isn't press turn but has demon coops from Strange Journey.
It's very easy for the most part but has moments where it can frick you up by just not being prepared just like a typical atlus game.
imo, play it for the story/characters before anything else, because it's not a bad story at all. It's very good, matter of fact.
It's unironically good for a sale. I would even say they could make a new dlc to expand the story
>*Slaps her ass* Take the L and buy me geemu
What did she mean by this.
I LOVE Ringo!