What is the best way to start this game? I understand that the official translation is crude and there are a number of fan translations. Which is the best?
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What is the best way to start this game? I understand that the official translation is crude and there are a number of fan translations. Which is the best?
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The AGES version, no question
>Sega AGES by M2.
Are you talking about this?
https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/sega-ages-2500-series-vol-1-phantasy-star-generation1-english-patched/
or this
https://archive.org/details/sega-ages-2500-series-vol.-32-phantasy-star-complete-collection
Pretty sure they're talking about the Switch release
Silly me, expecting retro on a retro board.
Maybe these homosexuals can patch this entire board with a QoL mod and turn it into Ganker.
Are you implying that M2 doesn't do quality work?
I assumed it was essentially a Sega Master System translation patch released on the Switch's eStore.
It is. You don't have to interact with anything but the original version.
I can turn off automaps or whatever the other anon's were complaining about?
yes
Sega AGES by M2.
even though this is the best Master System title, it still isn't worthwhile 🙁
>the best Master System title
Nah, that would be Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap, which is also available on Game Gear
Also available on TG-16/PCE
Damn that art goes hard. Look at Odin about to rip that skeleton in half. Doesn’t get much more Phantasy Star than that.
>Switch/mobile versions
They add an auto-map and optional multipliers for experience points.
>Original SMS game
Don't bother playing the official translation as it's quite bad. The latest unofficial translation can be found here:
https://github.com/maxim-zhao/psrp
>Playstation 2 remake
This also has an unofficial translation. The remake expands the story and adds tons of new dialogue. If you only care about the story, this is the one to play.
>Don't bother playing the official translation as it's quite bad. The latest unofficial translation can be found here:
>https://github.com/maxim-zhao/psrp
Thanks.
This fantranslation just makes stuff up. Original isn't great but it's better than this.
>This fantranslation just makes stuff up. Original isn't great but it's better than this.
>learn new skill
>transration
Is this an engrish joke, or are we rationing trannies?
wrong screenshot.
Dude I was just in Medusa's Cave. I drew my own map before fact checking to make sure I wasn't crazy. The compass is supposed to be here, but I can't find it. Is this because I used the Maxim-Zhao patch of the japanese version of the game? Is it different in the American and European releases?
Okay. I checked a GameFAQ's walkthrough. It says you need to talk to Odin. Before you do that you need Alsulin. I assumed because the Retranslation is different from the official American release this walkthrough would have been based on that PalorieMate or Ruegonin would be the new name of Alsulin. Well both of those just increase my stats and do nothing for him.
So then I Ctrl+F the walkthrough for Alsulin. That's found on a character named Myau, who's found on another planet. So I'm on completely the wrong track, but the other two dungeons are locked doors.
It only took me an hour or two, or virtually zero progress despite alot of grinding and farming for money to increase my weapon twice, but I'm starting to think I'm filtered. I'm probably gonna quit unless I can find a QoL romhack that eliminate all non-story random encounters and just gives me infinite stats. I know that makes me a gigantic zoomer homosexual, but I only have so many hours of freetime before I gotta go back to work. If anyone's got a hack/game-genie code fix for that it would be most appreciated.
I vaguely remember looking for no-encounter codes for RPG's and remembering only Phantasy Star 3 or 4 had one, but not 1.
kys
>QoL romhack
>I only have so many hours of freetime
Holy shit dude. Just don't play it. What the hell is wrong with you. They make lets plays for people like you. This game is entry level as shit.
If you talk to townspeople, you can piece together what happened to Odid without needing to consult the walkthrough. The only tricky part ig getting a roadpass to the spaceport.
...seriously? Did the retranslator revert every name except the one that's staring you in the face? Odin/Tyrone
I was a massive PS fan in the 90s and I honestly thought that Tyrone was a white name because of this game. My town didn’t have any black people in it
The Sega AGES Switch release is the best one, but for that you'll be playing with the original English localization. Which is fine and serviceable, but maybe not as detailed and accurate as it could be.
The second best version is the Sega Ages 2500 release for PS2. NOT the remake, but the collection that has all four games. I'm not sure if this one has a re-translation patch or not.
>I'm not sure if this one has a re-translation patch or not.
It doesn't, but you can choose between the JP and US versions for the games that had US releases.
you need to draw map on grid 2 really get it
I'd strongly recommend avoiding the PS2 remake. It actually has MORE grinding and obtuse mechanics than the original, the most annoying of which being a hidden web of plot flags. You sometimes have to talk to certain npcs multiple times, in order AND exhaust their dialogue in order for the game to allow you to progress. Naturally, the game keeps to itself which NPCs and in which order, so you end up constantly going back and forth between every NPC in an area after every conversation just to make sure they have nothing new to say. Oh, and some of them are deep inside dungeons, so sucks to be you if you missed them, or failed to talk to them multiple times, or didn't exhaust their dialogue.
Seems like one of the easier things to do would be to automatically make every NPC exhaust all their dialogue on the first interaction.
Was this your first JRPG? Serious question. It's a hard rule to exhaust every NPC's dialogue when meeting them and anytime something major changes.
>Was this your first JRPG? Serious question. It's a hard rule to exhaust every NPC's dialogue when meeting them and anytime something major changes.
Besides StarTropics, can you list a dozen or so games that punish you for failing to do this?
Why literally a dozen? Bro I don't have that much time. You can have the win.
Yes bro, a remake of a Master System game that was only released in Japan was my first JRPG. I went to the store to pick up Final Fantasy X and grabbed the wrong box. Silly me! However, whilst a moronic NOOB like me clearly didn't know how to play the game, it seems that, for some reason, even reviews from sites dedicated to reviewing nothing but RPGs somehow had an issue with it too.
>However, other obstacles have been added in 3DAges' attempts to update the game. One especially prevalent one is the obtuse plot flags - the player must often to talk to several NPCs multiple times, sometimes within the same visit, to flip arbitrary plot flags in order to allow acces to the next area of the game. On more than one occasion I found myself moving to the next area only to find that I wasn't able to enter or locate a key item there because of a missed conversation, forcing me to backtrack to previous towns and talk to everyone again. In some particularly grating instances, this can even require re-traversing entire dungeons. A very unnecessary and annoying addition that plagued me throughout the experience.
Perhaps you could name some other JRPGs that hide the critical path behind a web of unsignposted NPC dialogue, so that STUPID BABIES like me don't get FILTERED by this notoriously complex and difficult genre for intelligent people such as yourself.
There's a team conversation option in the menu that basically tells you what to do next.
One thing I'll warn about the switch release is that the automap gives away more details that you wouldn't know if you were mapping by hand, like hidden doors, pitcalls, chests etc.
Kinda lame.
Automap is lame for smaller dungeon crawlers in general. Phantasy Star is not a hard game to map, but I understand the pits giving new players a lot of trouble.
play the ROM from the Switch release on a SMS emulator, it's just the original game + FM audio
>Start game
>Find my character standing in the middle of a swastika
What did Sega mean by this?
Sega's answer to Final Fantasy?
It came out literally 2 days after FF1. Completely mogged it btw.
By having no story, terrible combat, almost no rpg elements, and tiring/repetitive dungeons? Yeah mogged FF1 so hard.
So you've never played it.
To Dragon Quest. The idea behind Phantasy Star was "Let's see how Dragin Quest does it and do the opposite", which is why it has sci-fi setting, female protagonist, 3D dungeons and nice animated sprites.
Conversely, the idea behind Final Fantasy was "Let's see what other games didn't carry over from D&D and do that", which is why you can fire does extra damage to undead in FF.
>caring about translations in old games
It's a shame this series turned into mmo slop
I can forgive every other franchise that Sega has ruined but this one is just unforgivable.