We're finally going home bros. What games are you gonna replay while we wait for 4 next month? Will you be playing Pikmin for the first time?
https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/pikmin-4-switch/ additional game info
Pikmin 4
We're finally going home bros. What games are you gonna replay while we wait for 4 next month? Will you be playing Pikmin for the first time?
https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/pikmin-4-switch/ additional game info
still playing through the katamari 2 remake, plus the pixel remasters and 16
bunch of good shit in the next few months, fantasy life 2 later in the year as well
I wanna FRICK that white Pikmin
Anon....
NO, not THAT version!
bad image
Would
Yellow pikmin is STILL the best
Pink is the sexiest
Holy kino. Now it is rolling time.
Ice and Ghost will be replaced with good looking fanart in the future.
Hot
Leave the purple one to me
Purple mommy!!!!
>What games are you gonna replay while we wait for 4 next month?
You know what we're gonna be playing for the next month
this will be my first pikmin game
always saw those games from afar
what's the games like? looks like platform with small puzzles and lemmings-like mechanics
It's like a hectic RTS lite that makes you feel really bad for losing your "troops" and with a really comfy atmosphere and designs,earlier games had a more creepy comfy alien atmosphere which was also great
It's sort of an RTS game, you grow and command an army of pikmin in order to navigate the area solving puzzles and defeating weird ass creatures who want to eat your army, your goal being to collect different "treasures" in order to stave off asphyxiation/starvation/the IRS
The games are very different from one another, people will never decide on which is the best
>in order to stave off the IRS
This made me laught
LE HECKIN' WHOLESOME PUPPERINO will ruin the game.
Honestly i agree, it feels like they're moving more and more power away from the pikmin and into the playable character by adding the dog.
Is it worth playing 1 and 2? Is 3 just the best one?
3's the worst one but it's still pretty good
1 is absolutely worth playing. It's just 3 but smaller tbh.
2 is worth playing because of just how different it is to 1 and 3. A lot of people hate the dungeon crawling, but persoanlly I thought it was a pretty natural evolution for the series.
Give them a try.
>A lot of people hate the dungeon crawling
It's just hardcore 1gays specifically. Most of the fanbase loves 2 overall
All are worth playing. I prefer 3 over the first two myself.
play them all its the kind of series where its possible any of the 3 could end up being your favorite
just by the replies, this seems to be the consensus.
but I'm still hesitant to get decades old games for premium price. I should grab metriod dread now instead while it's on sale
3 is the worst one. It feels like one big tutorial until you get the blue Pikmin but by then it's practically over.
Yeah the pacing for 3 was super weird. When Blues come into play you're just doing cleanup, can't you go right to the final boss immediately after?
Also 3 had one of the best final "bosses" ever in a game, that final level was absolutely stellar
Often the deals will be for a certain amount of years, like 5-10 to simplify distribution for thing like re-releases and bundles. It's a shame, but Pikmin 2 had plenty of soul beyond corporate product placement.
3 > 1 > 2
2 is the fricking best one and the fact that 4 is going back into dungeons and exploration is worth hype unlike many other shitter games. Frick EVERY Black person in this thread who doesn’t have 2 at the top. Frick ya’ll
Pikmin 3 Deluxe has the shortest story and lightest on main content, but best Challenge Mode and amazing side content.
seconding 3 challenge mode. I didnt bother doing the challenge modes in 1 and 2 that much but 3 made me platinum everything because of how fun it was. Also if you can find someone to co-op then Pikmin 3 is the best game period
It's a matter of preference. Many people swear by 1 for it's time pressure and risk management, but just as many love 2 for it's exploritory nature and more polished gameplay. 3 tries to meet in the middle but ends up a bit more on the 1 side, with less time pressure. 4 likewise seems to take more from 2.
why would you think that the worst one in the series is the best one, were you just too young to play the first two when they came out or something, maybe you werent even born yet who knows
I'm 30. I played 1 when I was a kid and hardly remember it. Just missed out on the series really and seems like a good time to get involved.
2 > 1 > 3, but I haven't played 3 Deluxe. I don't like how 3 controls compared to the other games, and it doesn't let your swarm.
3 DX made the lack of swarming a lot more tolerable with improved controls.
>3 controls compared to the other games,
3 deluxe fixes this completely and is the only reason people like 3 now
Pikmin 2 is the best.
1 is the best game
2 is like a challenge mode of 1, with lil dungeons, its good but its basically more 1 with less interesting plot
3 is ezpz snooze fest and it feels even shorter, but it looks nice
Definitely at least play the first one. It's so short you'll probably beat it in a few sittings. No reason not to play it if you're curious.
1 and 2 are both great. The Pikmin AI can be pretty moronic in 1. 2 spends a lot of time in caves which some people don't like. I prefer 2, but there are plenty of people in both camps.
1 is inaccessible and cruel, but very raw, simple, and pure.
2 is ugly and a long dungeon-crawling nightmare endless slog, but sprawling, comfy, luxurious, and with very, very high peaks of excitement and danger
3 is watered down and streamlined, but is by far the series' smoothest, prettiest, and most accessible entry, while also having the deepest gameplay if you also partake in the Mission mode
All three are 8/10 or higher, but they're VERY different. You can't go wrong with any of them.
I'm a little worried they didn't show anything of 1+2 HD, but I guess we'll see plenty in a few hours.
I wonder if they rebalanced the purples.
God i hope they rebalanced the purples.
We saw a glimpse of the Armored Cannon Beetle in the trailer, what other enemies would you like to see make a return in 4?
Foreskin Dog
Emperor Bulblax
Waterwraith
Even mamuta is here, I also remember if i'm not wrong that the smoky progg spawn condition in pikmin 1 was depending of something about if mamuta was alive or dead so maybe progg could also be in the game, hell maybe even all enemies in the series exept prior final bosses
I love Oatchi!
He cute,but i just hope he doesn't trivialise the game. There should be a hard difficulty option without him,if not then i fear for the gameplay
>inb4 just don't use him
i still have to take him around everywhere seemingly
You can only field 3 types of pikmin at a time. Oatchi is there to balance out what you bring
so olimar is fricking dead/a horrible pikmin-hocotation abomination yeah?
Split timeline where Olimar got the bad ending in the first game
Correct take.
How?
Olimar has been established to go out to space a lot.
If anything, this is him being fricking stupid AGAIN, and getting stuck with actual consequences.
The character customization trailer showed that Olimar was using the Dolphin as he crashed on the planet. Though maybe he got the Dolphin back after 3, we don't know.
Dondari is an Olimar effigy the pikmin made to subsitute his absence, its purpose is to test any prospective new captain's worthiness to lead them.
My other possible theory is that the Pikmin grew so attached to him that they somehow evolved to have their own leader in his likeness, so they didn't have to wait for a captain to come around to get shit done. I can see them having more of these guys in the likeness of other captains from the past games, and you have to fight each of them in a VS match to rescue a castaway
That actually makes sense, they evolved to be like the captains, it wouldn't make any sense in evolutionary terms though.
I have atheory that the world is actually being run by AI machines that are mixing with organic lives. That's why the onions on 3 are mechanical and there are some symbiotic lifeforms.
Considering that this Pikmin has Olimar clothes, it could very well be one of these machine AIs doing this work by creating this abominations tha we see in the games.
I also like to think that the caves were created by the Bulbmins, so the go around creating these pipe systems and caves and constraptions, maybe there is an AI that's doing that, based on the that it has and that's why the caves are so similar.
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/396424#search=Olimar
Im thinking more like this
blatant marketing thread
yeah we like video games
lmfao
lol yeah i know right? video games are so fricking great
nintendo games lmfao
Having only played 3 I'm looking forward to it but I think it'll be weird without another captain to use.
I'm personally really excited for the HD version of 1. I tried playing 1 after marathoning 3 deluxe and 2 but the blur effect of 1 on Gamecube gave me motion sickness, I'm glad they removed it in the HD port. Hope the Pikmin AI is tweaked as well.
>product placement gone
soulless
I'm still keeping my gamecube copies of 1 and 2, I really just want to replay 1 without feeling queasy.
placement gone
huh?
>Hope the Pikmin AI is tweaked as well.
It is they don't get distracted by flowers anymore. Not sure about the beetle but I'll find out soon once one spawns
Oh thank god, that was insufferable that the Pikmin just had to pull up EVERY blade of grass, and they happened to be absolutely everywhere
They still get distracted by grass. Just not flowers. Also I noticed they respond quicker when you whistle at them compared to the gamecube version where they take a second sometimes
Did they remove the Pikmin singing Ai No Uta?
It's specifically stated that they did in the store page.
I wasn't sure if they referring to the actual lyrical songs (which weren't in the games to begin with), or just the easter egg of the Pikmin singing the theme, which got me a bit confused/hopeful at first. If they really did get rid of the latter, then damn.
The eshop says they've removed Ai no Uta and Tane no Uta.
There will be no 4fafs
Do u think we’ll be able to use Glow pikmin during the day they seem frickin cool
I did a 10 day run of 1 a couple months back. Will wait for 4 instead of replaying 2, though might check out a hack.
i just wish this was on a more powerful system, environment design is great but lighting looks so flat.
I think I might get this just based on the aesthetics, never played pikmin but it looks cool
>We explore the fricking house
This entire game setting is Honey I Shrunk the Kids. What are the odds a human saves us at the end?
I can't tell if I like the gradual increase in human structures each game. It was cool in 1 how it was clear that earth was LONG abandoned and few things survived but now we got full on houses with furniture that looks brand new just set.
Yeah I wish the house setting was more dilapidated, it looks way too clean for the setting.
Seeing the pikmin enemies overtaking an existing house would've been neat, rather than them just being placed in there.
>What are the odds a human saves us at the end?
0 we'll probably get saved by a squirrel or something lol however...IF there is a human I only want to see their foot squish the final boss before walking elsewhere and the human doesn't notice or maybe a human toddler steps on it. It needs to be subtle but obvious like everything else in the games
Grounded did it better but this is still cool nonetheless.
>You can only field 3 types of pikmin at a time
what the frick,why
>Oatchi is there to balance out what you bring
so basically they limit the types of pikmin you can take just so they give him a reason to exist?
it will absolutely be balanced around him then. oh well i'll see how it works out, not saying it's a guaranteed catastrophe
Honestly the "3 types max" Pikmin sounds like a good thing, so long as they make Onions easy to access and don't have bullshit DK64 level design of constant backtracking for specific Pikmin. 5 Pikmin out at once felt a bit much in 2 and 3, I liked the caves that only needed 2-3 types because managing 10-30-20-25-15 squads is stupid.
I don't mind it since every single pikmin type from past games is in, it could lead to some interesting scenarios where you have to plan out which types you're taking with you.
It might also help balance out Purple Pikmin more since you're getting strength for a type with no resistances.
Is this real
Yes
Yes
The dog is basically shoehorned in and they remove so many parts of what makes pikmin a pikmin game and make him do all of them just to make him be useful
People want bulbmin back so bad but Oatchi is pretty much just a rideable bulbmin
I'm going to replay 2 as that's one of my favorite games of all time and I'm happy to have it and the first one preserved digitally.
Okay, so Olimar has become a Pikmin, can he be reverted back guys? The poor thing finally met his demise. Also, he talks about how Bulbmins remind him of his dog, his dog is that green one seen in the trailer.
Nope, he's dead, and his wife and children have already grieved him.
I wanna play pikmin but I dont wanna people think im a little gayget. how do i do this??
Play playing Pikmin you little gayget. Pikmin is one of the most based and fun gaming franchises ever made and if you worry about being judged for playing it, you don't deserve to enjoy it.
only play pikmin 2, assert dominance
I hope dog is optional.
I really don't see what use it has other than sidestepping other pikmin abilities.
Reminder Pikmin 2 treasures got changed. RIP Duracell.
At least they aren't hiding it. That's the b***h of licensing, it can be soulful for a short time but eventually permanently damage something. Same shit happened with Mike Tyson's punch-out or Evangelion and "Fly me to the moon"
FRICK
>At least they aren't hiding it. That's the b***h of licensing, it can be soulful for a short time but eventually permanently damage something. Same shit happened with Mike Tyson's punch-out or Evangelion and "Fly me to the moon"
I know, I'm not complaining (though I am sad deep down) but I think people who weren't around last thread should know. I'm surprised the Wii version was able to keep that stuff intact.
>strawberry flower is never ever coming back and they're so fricking dead that nutendo doesn't even have the rights to use their old music anymore
🙁
what do you mean?
The scree was all stretched on the Direct, they didn't even add a widescreen mod. I bet that the mysterious dead Pikmin bug from 1 is still present in the game.
I think something is messed up with your display anon, the aspect ratio isn’t stretched in the official video
RIP Vlasic pickles jar lid
RIP Yoohoo and 7up bottle caps as well
It hurts...
soulless
>that stretched UI
This is gonna be an emulation hackjob isn't it
They should've parodied the brands. Could've called the Duracell battery Burnacell or something lol
frick why is Nintendo so lazy. They had to change the model anyway so why not be clever with it
>Have multiple people in this very thread complaining that it's generic stuff and not mario themed or something and others complaining that it would be mario themed
Mario themed is gay though having “not” brands is at least funny
What I am really not looking forward to is how self-masturbatory Nintendo is going to be with the replacement products.
It's going to all Mario or Zelda-related and feel totally out-of-place.
It's just generic brand stuff now
Is the weed leaf changed, or only licensed stuff?
Thats fricking weirdly honest of them to outright advertise what features are missing. Very anti-nintendo
Sorry Nintendo you cant erase history from me
is pikmin 3 on switch?
yes they ported it years ago with tons of QOL fixes and co-op story mode. All 4 pikmin games are gonna be on switch
Alright, lorewise what the heck is that creature with a leaf tail? Another subspecies of Pikmin?
Same alien-dog species as Oatchie, but the leaf tail is interesting... Bulbmin bros... is there a chance?
He's got those bulblax eyes
anyone else really love the winged pikmin? my favorite part of 3. Just love their designs and how they can float around.
It's all fun and games until they see one of the spiderwebs
I remember the first time I played 3 I thought they were fricking immortal carrying things home and then suddenly 20 of them died
That's not so bad, look at how I personally earned that Pikmin carrying bombs ignore the charge command and the game switches to a different Pikmin type instead
actually the funniest clip i've ever seen of this franchise
Well sure NOW it's hilarious but when it happened I could barely process what just occured. I just ran around in circles and remembered to hold the screenshot button (most underrated feature of the switch to be tbh)
it'd be better if it was more than like 15 seconds or whatever it is
You get 30 seconds out of a hold, if you hold it again immediately after the following capture is just trimmed short so it doesn't just save duplicate footage
Me. Love the sounds they make and how they’re always in flight, they’re adorable
The new camera and the footage makes me think there will be zero multitasking or strategy required/suggested.
To think Pikmin is so good it's the only game people can genuinely lament went it doesn't have corporate product shilling
Christ, pikmin fans, we are eating goooooood.
What is the appeal of Pikmin? I played 20 minutes of the first game on Gamecube and it bored me to tears.
Play until you reach the mushroom boss, if you don't like it by then, give up.
Depends on the game really. Pikmin 1 has good replayability to try to manage your time best to get all parts in the shortest amount of time with nice atmosphere and Olimar is an engaging character for Nintendo, 3 tries to replicate the gameplay part of this. 2 is more of a collectithon and dungeon crawler, it's fun to collect stuff in those games.
Also 20 minutes is less than 2 full days, sounds like you did Day 1 (the tutorial day) and Day 2 (the real first day of the game). Did you really give it a chance?
The Nintendo bias. If Ubisoft made this no one would care.
Ubisoft doesn't have a creative bone in their body so no need to even wonder about that.
I'm excited to finally play pikmin 1 since i missed it the first time around
>$30
>Spice Ginger Ale
>not 1up
>Spicy Ginger Ale
does this actually exist? I didn't know spicy soda was even a thing besides that one mtn dew flavor lol
Ginger beer made with actual ginger is very intense and almost tastes "spicy", it burns my throat. But they probably couldn't put the word "Beer" in an E-rated game
Most "Ginger" ale at restaurants like Canada dry or Schwepps is just Coca-cola and Sprite mixed together and once I learned this fact I could never taste the soda the same way again. If you don't believe me find a soda fountain and mix those two sodas together.
I'll have to try that later I have a store next to my house with a coca cola fountain machine
It does - most actual ginger ale is pretty spicy. The mass produced stuff like Canada Dry and Vernor's pale in comparison.
>Vernor's
hello michigan anon
>the house is borderline pristine
>pikmin olimar
>upgrade system
>night
Bros I'm really not sure how to feel about this.
all are good tings
what's wrong with a cleanly house?
who kept it clean?
you don't know, humans could be in the game. i don't know if it was ever made certain humans are extinct in the pikmin universe.
presumably the same people that left all those pristine treasures scattered around pikmin 2s overworld
Me
read my theory
It's an AI reconstructing stuff based on its memory bank.
>It's an AI reconstructing stuff based on its memory bank.
>Same AI is defending the Earth from Space invaders, thus the reason so many captains have been crashing recently
>It also became more agressive because foreigners (Olimar and Louie) kept stealing shit from the planet preventing the AI from reconstructing it as seen fit
Damn anon that would be fricking awesome if the main enemy is in fact an AI went rogue
Yeah, and that's after the nuclear holocaust, considering that Olimar's Geiger counter is going crazy all the time and we first find it.
Shit I could see it honestly
Maybe it's a Bradbury reference.
It's a clear retcon of the previous game's setting, which makes me wondr if the game's plot will be some alternate universe stuff.
I mean technically we've had upgrades since 2 just not the way they're handling it in 4
The lab stuff looks like what you'd find in Pikmin 2. The training stuff for the puppy does seem a bit strong but we'll have to wait and see.
wonder if the oatchi elemental guards in the lab also allow him to say, attack electric gates.
I really love that Nintendo is adding progression systems to all their games now. Kirby got one as well in Forgotten Land. It's so easy to implement but Nintendo has been stubbornly avoiding doing it for years.
We got upgrades for our shit in pikmin 2 though
>We got upgrades for our shit in pikmin 2 though
Yes we did, I loved that about Pikmin 2. But Pikmin 3 did not have progression. It feels like from around 2010 up until around 2021 Nintendo was refusing to add progression systems to almost any of their games, and this didn't used to be the case. Back in the day even 3D Mario games had small progression systems. Mario 64 had the unlockable hats, and Sunshine had the unlockable powerups in the hub area. Every game should have some form of progression, even if it's a small one because it just gives the player motivation to play the game.
It works well for some games and doesn’t for others. Glad they didn’t shoehorn it in. Would hate to see a Mario game with upgrades
progression systems suck
>progression systems suck
No, they don't. It's obnoxious when it's used to make you grind boring shit over and over, but fundamentally it feels good to receive a long term reward for doing things.
Pikmin Earth is suffering from dimensional anomalies, that's why you get absurd settings like the multi-floor underground dungeons and relatively pristine locations (and objects like the pristine Pikmin 2 treasures). The wraiths are at the core of it all.
>house is pristine
shower room, glutton's kitchen, garden of hope generally. not too crazy to see one example of a well-preserved human structure imo
>pikmin olimar
canon, no idea how thats a bad thing
>upgrade system
are treasures like the anti-electrifier and metal suit z not upgrades already? at least in this game it makes more sense to have your r&d team make them rather than magically finding them on the ground like in 3
>night
anyone who doesn't think this is kino is lying to themselves
Playing through Pikmin 1 for the very first
time
Thank you Nintendo for realizing that making ALL the games in a series available on a single system makes me more willing to play them
>Playing through Pikmin 1 for the very first
>time
tfw will never be able to play pikmin 1 for the first time again. enjoy it pal
Never played Pikmin but think I'll marathon them after ff16. They look cute and comfy.
>They look cute and comfy.
They are until "that" part each of these games have
I guess daddy and emperor for 1? I was trying to remember and there's not too much that's "creepy" there.
Maybe theyre talking about the inevitable death of your pikmin, whether by immolation or ingestion
Bulblax as well for 1 if you don't know about the bomb strat (I didn't my first playthrough that was fricking hell and I damn near lost) and 2 has those random couple of caves that will push your shit in a bit on a first playthrough
Yea 2 has a ton of shit, the wraith most notably, but yea emperor and daddy are the main two from 1 I would think.
True.
Anti-cavegays lost.
>just beat 1 again on the wii u cause nintendo never ported it
well guess ill just play 1 again and see if I can get a new highscore
Should I emulate 1 and 2 or will the switch versions be good?
emulate. it seems the switch versions have poor aspect ratio-ing and remove copyright stuff.
So far the Switch versions are okay-ish minus the removal of copyright stuff. motion controls feel good, they have standard camera controls like Pikmin 3. but overall I'd say you're just fine emulating it this isn't exactly a Metroid Prime Remaster situation where it outclasses the original version in nearly every way
To the anons who got it, is it ports of the butchered motion-control versions from the Wii, or direct ports of the gamecube ones?
>never cared for pikmin
>arlo (yes, the youtuber) made me aware of all the good things about pikmin
>my 4yo daughter loves the 3 videos on youtube
>ended up downloading pikmin 3 (hacked switch) to show it to her
>she pays little attention since you see the pikmin from very far
>AS SOON as i start controlling the main character, everything clicks
I'm going to play pikmin 1 when it releases, OP
not to pick on you too much, but of course you wouldn't care for it before playing it. you hadn't even tried it. glad you like it and you and your daughter will have a good time though.
Are there options for motion controls in the HD ports. I already played 1 and 2 on my Steam Deck but I did think I'm missing out on no motion pointer controls that the wii ports had.
I always thought the motion controls they added to gc stuff were awful, like in pikmin and prime
>Are there options for motion controls in the HD ports
It's just an On/Off button for motion controls and you can reset the cursor back in place with the left control stick
Neat, thank you.
So do we have 5 confirmed overworld areas then?
>Garden area
>Desert area
>Playground/cherry blossom area
>Worksite/backyard area
>Living room and kitchen area
In addition they look pretty huge, if the living room/kitchen size is anything to go off of.
Can’t imagine Nintendo would show every area off in prerelease as well - any predictions on how many more/which kinds of areas we’ll see in the game? Personally I’d love a couple more in different locations inside the house. A basement area would be cool, so would a masterbedroom + en suite bathroom kind of region.
snow areas are comfy
I’m skeptical we’ll see a snowy area, although it’s definitely a possibility given the existence of the desert. I thought the whole game was going to be contained in an urban setting, so the desert threw me for a loop.
True, I would be a little disappointed if all we get of the house is that one area though. It would fit Nintendo’s MO but I’m huffing some hopium that the long development time means this will be a significantly more expansive game than previous iterations.
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as the narrator says 'open up new areas to explore', the trailer shows 3 places:
sandland
cherry blossom park
inside the house
this is in addition to the backyard area with stone walls that features in most shots.
i think it makes sense to expect 4 major areas and maybe a 5th smaller, final level as before. i wouldn't expect 5 major areas. the garden area and worksite/backyard area you list are probably the same area.
How is the switch port for Pikmin 1? I just want to know if the motion blur is gone and if the Pikmin AI is improved in any way.
DUMP THE PORTS!!
i want to experience this franchise without playing the OGs since i am a graphicstard
I'm gonna replay all 3 from now to 4s release. Heil Pikmin!
There are 15 people just on this screen.
How many people exactly could have they sent just to rescue one guy?
And how will they survive, do they even have food?
>food
According to Louie, the enemies are fricking delicious. Fry them up.
did we crash again this time
could just have a food maker on there, or have it as one of the components after what happened in 3
Why are they all waiting instead of giving a hand
They could all use Pikmin to support our character
Lazy fricks
I think that they are working on the upgrades and training the dog, also doing the maintenance, like preparing the food.
Yes, there is enough food for sure, specially because they can cook the monsters.
Never really played a Pikmin game. Tried 3 but it was so slow that I got bored quickly. This looks a bit more engaging with the camera angle, the difficult of night time, etc.
Nintendo, ultra hard mode for night please.
I'm guessing no one is commenting on the 1+2 ports because they are playing them?
>I'm guessing no one is commenting on the 1+2 ports because they are playing them?
I'm not saying no one is, but I think most of the people who like Pikmin 1 and 2 already own it or just emulate it so I doubt those sell much.
I'm definitely replaying 2 tonight.
Nice warmup before the demo next week.
glow pikmin flowers have pointed petals instead of round ones. what does it mean
Maybe to evoke a star shape (association with night time and all that)
sucks that we can only use them at night. Think the other colors are also unavailable during the night?
Almost certainly. The glow pikmin home replaces where the onion usually is
probably just to make it look like a star
These kind of stuff always get me. That's why we need to original artists working on the series. The Pikmins are mutation of very specific flowers, I forgot the name, not this one. Literally souless.
They shine like stars
3 was my favorite. but i attribute most of that to the wiiu gamepad and stylus. peak comfy.
I bought 3 again for switch, and it doesnt feel as right.
3 is great because of the 3-team micromanagement
its weird how much people obsess with multiple captain multi tasking when 1 (aka the best game) has none of that
I'm gonna guess the dog level ups you get from beating dungeons, which is why they're so strong, while the suit powerups from Pikmin 2 you get from just collecting resources lying around. Nintendo likes to do this thing where they have one major progression system with one minor one together. Like how BotW has the spirit orbs which are the major one and the koroks which are the minor one.
Physical release confirmed for NA
Does 3 emulate fine? I know it has some touchpad shit that's weird, should I worry about that?
why not emulate the switch version or does that one have that shit too?
I didn't even realize there was a Switch version. That's probably the version I'll go with since it apparently has quality of life changes.
Is the extra content worth getting 3 again on Switch?
I'd say so. I really enjoyed the extra content and all of the QoL improvements in Deluxe.
Can we swarm in 4? Do we know yet?
Can you swarm in 3 Deluxe?
>Can you swarm in 3 Deluxe?
kind of, they replace the whole zoom+ lock charge with a quick swarm button. Have to try it out yourself but it really improved how 3 felt to play. Its not the same as 1 and 2 but it might be a bit better mechanically with how fast it is.
Nice thanks, good thing vouchers are a thing.
Rollin'
NO PINK?
For that occasion I have pic related.
Anyone actually buy the 1+2 port? How is it? I've kinda had a lingering regret of trading in the first one years ago for a copy of Animal Crossing.
most people are waiting for the physical version if theyre gonna buy but thats in September
Oh shit didn't notice there's gonna be a physical copy. Might just hold off then.
yeah they did a terrible job marketing it, we only know with post direct news.
I'm waiting for the physical copy in September
I'm grabbing it when I get off work.
Starting another playthrough of 2 now using that Anon's keyboard config. I would play 1 but I'm waiting on that total conversion mod that turns Pikmin 2 into Pikmin 1.
>that turns Pikmin 2 into Pikmin 1.
do anti cave gays really?
I don't think you get it, it's Pikmin 1 in Pikmin 2
Stop forcing this meme or I'll be forced to think less of you.
Hey! Pikmin may not be the Pikmin you wanted, but it actually isn't bad.
I kind of liked the mini game where you just direct pikmin to certain tasks and they clear it over time. I didnt like the platforming at all but honestly a pikmin rts/simulator could be fun.
so how long until porn of the new MC?
So we're back to one single captain now? i love pikmin 1,but that's gonna be really weird
I know
>Oatchie
but still going to be weird and doesn't sound very challenging
Will we have this kino evolution of prior maps again?
>yfw you see the formidable oak tree stump in the background of an area
the real value of this video is making the viewer recall how wonderful the piklopedia soundtrack is
They really fricked up the game font.
I need to be sat on by a purple Pikmin
>tfw you accidentaly sit on a rock pikmin
>rock pikmin takes off her stone armor
Why does evil olimar dog have squintier eyes?
This dog has a leaf as a tail. Are we getting evil pikmin?
Maybe to look less "friendly" compared to Oatchi, but it just looks kinda doofy to me (in a good way lol)
Looks tired more then anything.
To me it looks skeptical, like he's judging me lmao
how do i enjoy these games again? i remember liking them but only getting like 4 hours of playtime out of each one. they're so short its unreal. replayable like a puzzle you already solved.
>replayable like a puzzle you already solved.
speeeeedrun
The game looks awesome I-
>you can only use three Pikmin types at a time
AAAAAAAAND dropped why the frick do they ruin everything
theres like 9 types now
Definition of artificial difficulties
Game will be longer simply because you cannot complete a cave 100% during your first visit
Pikmin 2 still confirmed best Pikmin game
Does this really matter though? With the game taking a cave focused approach again, the caves always had only a few types needed to begin with.
Yeah but if you face an obstacle that requires Rock Pikmin but you didn't bring them for the day, too bad, you wasted your time there.
In fact that will probably make Purple mostly useless as besides larger weight they have no resistance and are not required for any obstacle (except if they somehow bring back 200 weight treasures)
caves always told you what elements you needed before you entered so that couldnt happen
Why do modern games try so hard to limit our options?
>noooo, why do I have to plan ahead
Really don’t see the problem. If they allowed you to have uncapped pikmin previously and then made it 100 here, you’d be whining, but that limitation is good
I mean we went from 100 to 30 so yeah it sucks too
they also limited to 30 pikmin now
so yeah it sucks that they nerfed everything
You can have many more pikmin in caves, but I doubt you'll be able to bring them all back as the number on the right turns red when you get over 30 Pikmin.
Maybe there are upgrades to have more Pikmin types and more Pikmin on the field? There are so many arts with all Pikmin fighting together now that not being able to see them together would ruin the colorful aspect of the game.
That looks like challenge mode.
Restrictions are good.
I expected the limit to be at 5. But ok I guess.
That sucks, and seems like it’ll lead to a bunch of problems
Between this, having one captain, and the dog, it feels like they’re baby proofing the game
They really could have allowed 5 types. What is the point of having everyone back if you are that limited.
Plus a 30 Pikmin cap fricking sucks.
>They really could have allowed 5 types. What is the point of having everyone back if you are that limited.
Because they brought back caves, where in Pikmin 2 they would straight up tell you "Bring fire, and electric"
Each dungeon will have 2-3 specific types required.
there's going to be all-species candypop buds too so you're not fricked if you find a cave that has a type requirement you don't currently have.
You won't find Pikmin that are not already in your squad
I.e. if you don't have red Pikmin you won't have red sprouts underground.
>30 pikmin cap
Where are you morons getting this from?? On the website there's a screenshot of you leading a squad of reds and yellows, and it shows you have 19 reds in your party out of 50 reds on the field, and it shows a bunch in the background carrying stuff back
On the website they show you the shop with the possibility to increase the limit.
It's also explained that you can find extra pikmin underground but you won't be able to bring them back.
>Only three types on the field each day
>Glow Pikmin only at night
>30 Pikmin cap
This game will be fricking easy if they decided to reduce the numbers that much.
Baby mode Pikmin spotted.
>30 Pikmin cap
Wait what
Yeah i'm really scared
Hope you can raise the cap with upgrades
The three types limit sucks but I could have gotten over it as it's just planning differently.
30 Pikmin is an insult to the genre though.
30 cap? Where?
The website that was only in japanese before
They also show more caves and enemies as well as Pikmin description
Official Pikmin 4 website.
You are limited to 30 Pikmin on the field, however you can find more in the caves, but you won't be able to bring them back to the surface.
You can definitely increase the size of your army because there is a pic with 40 and one with 60
but no more 100 Pikmin on the field
they're not going to stop at 100 - they want a number divisible by 3. 120.
60 is divisible by 3. It was also the limit in hard more in 3 Deluxe
but here's a total of 75. the highest we've yet seen.
they're not going to have less total pikmin on the field than previous games, that's part of the selling point. if anything, there will be more than 100.
It is possible that the game checks how high your cap got and sets the difficulty.
90 pls
I can't help but feel it was made to ruin the possibility to speedrun the game.
Why do I have to find ressources to increase the cap from 30 to 40 when I could get 100 Pikmin in a day?
Like the previous games, the number in the bottom-right is probably the total Pikmin you have outside of the onion.
Total # following you / Total # on the field
not them but I think they meant how sometimes the number on the right becomes red. And it seems what an anon said previously is correct; there might be a cap increase of 15 depending of your progression.
It might not be PNF-404. It might be the new planet Olimar found in Hey! Pikmin
>red numbers
It probably flashes red for a bit when some of your Pikmin die.
>cap
Sure, there's probably also an upgradable cap, but I think that number is only for showing you how many you have out.
>It might not be PNF-404. It might be the new planet Olimar found in Hey! Pikmin
Please don't say that ever again
Every time I learn more about Pikmin 4 I lose more and more interest.
>Oatchie
>Ice Pikmin BTFO'ing Blue Pikmin
>Caves
>No time limit
>Hard Pikmin limit
>Pikmin type limit
Unless everything else is literally perfect, this game will be as dogshit as Hey! Pikmin.
I just don't like how they removed our ability to choose every types in our team or not. You were never forced to use all types in 2 and 3 but you were given the ability to do so.
In 4 you can no longer choose if you want four, five, six or seven Pikmin types. You will only get three and be happy.
Also the 30 Pikmin limit early on sucks. I hate upgrading system.
Blues are mandatory in caves to recover treasures under water. Which means that for hazard heavy areas you'll always need blues.
Yellow and Rock will probably be needed as well for walls that will be unbreakable otherwise. There, you have the three types you'll always use.
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on the three types and 30 cap limit.
Early on, I can understand them limiting you to prevent caves from being easily busted by twenty purple, but we've seen caves with fire, water, electricity, poison, crystals, wind and puzzles requiring winged. With multiple floors, I sincerely doubt they'll limit themselves to only three hazards per cave, when half of the Pikmin 2 caves had all four of them.
Plus promotional art keeps showing more than three types on one oversized Oatchi. We can definitely unlock an ability to have more than three types at a time and more than 30.
If we can find a single frame of the video with more than three pikmin types being used then you'll be right. We already have evidence 30 is not the cap and it's clearly upgradeable in increments of 15. I'm still betting 120 is the final count.
I think that even if the three type limit is permanent they still wouldn't restrict it to 3 hazards per cave. You're gonna have to make do without in some late game caves, i'd bet any money.
but then you'd always bring blues as a just-in-case
Probably why Oatchi is there, you can upgrade him to resist electricity, poison and fire.
Look I'm not complaining about Oatchi's versatility, but I wanted to play Pikmin to control Pikmin, not a fricking dog.
If he can deal with about every hazard himself, that ruins the charm of the game.
They clearly try to limit us by fixing a hard limit of three types and an early cap of 30 yet give us a companion that can fight, carry and resist all hazards.
I mean the caves in 2 told you what hazards would be in it beforehand.
so there's enough evidence that the first limit is indeed 30 Pikmin and then you can get up to 75 as
anon has shown here in what could be a midgame cave as there are white Pikmin.
I'm just curious to know how they can justify upgrading onions, and why did they lose the ability to have 100 Pikmin on the field from the start?
I sincerely hope so
Pikmin 1 only has three types. If it means types get more purpose then I'm all for it. The lower Pikmin amount is interesting. If they rely on Oatchi needing to help you then maybe it'll be harder than we think.
bros with the ports do you have the xci
Thoughts on this thing?
I like it, curious to see what it does.
Looks yummy
curious if he's going to suck pikmin into his trunk or if he's going to spew stuff from his trunk. he looks like he belongs to the blowhog species regardless.
Prööö :DDDD
More interested in the Ice Dweevil behind it. So fricking based.
fruit themed enemies
melephant
Are the ports of 1 and 2 out yet? How are they?
Also why is the physical release so far away? I'm not waiting until fricking September.
Alot of the og enemies are back, you guys think the goolix and smoky progg are coming back?
Quick Pikmin 1 HD impressions
>much of the UI is sort of stretched to fit widescreen, but manages to not look distracting
>you can swarm by holding L1 and using right stick, right stick without holding L1 controls the camera
>...it's Pikmin 1, not autistic enough to notice anything to nitpick
>you can swarm by holding L1 and using right stick, right stick without holding L1 controls the camera
ive been curious if this is going to be in 4 or not. l and r by the looks of the trailer switches the pikmin type up front. maybe zl or zr are the swarm modifier
dump the game please i am starving
just play the uncensored dolphin version
does it run at 30 or 60
Did they fix the swarm Pikmin death on 1? Like when you use 100 army on a enermy and a Pikmin vanishes from nowhere?
Rolling for state mandated fairy wife.
Oh no
Dick freeze.
>Pikmin 1+2 get a Switch release but are fricked by licensing
Im guessing they had to rebrand the Duracell battery and shit?
Yes
They also removed Ai No Uta and Tane No Uta
Can we stop making vague assumptions about the game before it releases?
We know there's upgrades in this game. Any limitation could potentially be broken later.
it's fun to derive answers from clues
theres a difference between deriving answers from clues and doomposting like this moron >641522463
30 pikmin maximum is such a lie and there's no evidence for it
>Pikmin 1+2
>oh cool it's going to be a remake with the visuals of Pikmin 3!
>it's just a lazy upscaled port
>a lazy upscaled port with reskinned treasures and missing music
Fricking hate that the Dog literally takes up space for 70 Pikmin and you are forced to use it more than anything else in the game. You literally can't do anything without a shitty text box coming up explaing what the dog does. It should have been called Dogmin because that's what 99% of this piece of shit fricking game is.
ok rechecked the trailer there is no sequence where more than 3 pikmin types are on screen at once. that could be a hard limitation.
so are Pikmin 1 and 2 60fps or do they still have the 30 cap?
judging by the stretched UI I assume Dolphin is still a better experience
Oatchi looks fricking stupid
This will be the worst pikmin game
watch your tone fricker
So, what items could we buy from the shop? Besides sprays, what else do you think could be available?
pretty much every captain powerup from 2 is probably going to be in plus a bunch more stuff like the headlamp shown there
I mean yeah that's in gears but what items could you actually buy?
i can't really fathom a consumable item that isn't spicy or bitter spray. it'll be interesting to see what they come up with that's worth the price compared to permanent upgrades.
well, hold on. one came to mind. a consumable armor that grants pikmin 1 attack's worth of immunity.
every thing here (https://www.pikminwiki.com/Upgrade#Spacesuit_upgrades) and here (https://www.pikminwiki.com/Upgrade#Whistle_upgrades) plus more
God I hope they put in the Pluckaphone, 1 is painful to replay not only because of Pikmin AI but also because it takes forever to pluck a lot of sprouts
You should have all the Pikmin you'll need by Day 7 and be done by Day 15.
Amount of pikmin out possibly, since there's things that show different caps
The amount of Pikmin might also depend on when you discover a new type. Notice how the highest caps involve Blue and White Pikmin, while the lower numbers only have Red, Yellow and Ice?
Which makes me wonder HOW will we discover new types besides Yellow and Blue (we have seen their onions)?
And how does it work the day you find them, can you work on their numbers from the start or you need to wait the following day?
And why do the captains never bring weapon to hunt creatures?
The Ice Pikmin intro scene looks like it's in a cave.
Whites and Purples, probably in a cave, Winged and Roc probably have their own onions again.
according to the scroll bar there are between 42 and 49 gears you can buy.
anti electrifier for dog and captain > 2
+ 2 scorch guards > 4
+ 2 thermal > 6
head lamp + rush boots > 8
Any suggestion?
at least one armor and one attack upgrade for the captain, and let's say the same for Oatchi, meaning four extra gears.
no idea for the rest
it seems to be focused entirely on upgrades for the captain and Oatchi. We know that there were six rescue corps members and Oatchi on that ship that needed to be saved (castaways don't count).
One is Sheperd, for the dog, Collin for the missions, the bald dude for the lab, Yonny for the nights expedition. There are at least two other members that can contribute to your upgrades in a way.
I'm not saying we can't increase the amount of Pikmin, I'm just not sure it's the same dude that offers you this specific upgrade.
I was rewatching the trailer and we've also caught sight of another rescue corp member (far right on this pic) yet not the dude allowing you to start night missions.
There are still secrets to find out.
I feel like how this dog is implemented will make or break the game. I mean, it could be fun if it gives you a lot more mobility sure, but I hope the whole game doesn't revolve around it.
You know the other day I was actually thinking how it was possible we'd get radioactive pikmin
Can't believe I was actually right holy shit this is awesome
You can summon the the pod/onion to a landing site in the middle of a day, switching Pikmin types shouldn't be too much of a problem
This was kinda "meh" for me since I didn´t like 3 too much...
But all the new features, the night assaults, the human homes, new dungeons... Now im hyped for this.
Thus game seems like a spiritual successor to 2, whereas 3 was more like 1.
Not sure how the 1 bros are taking it but as a massive 2 fan I'm excited.
really? I mean I didn't think 3 was terrible but I definitely liked it the least of 1-3
the gameplay wasn't bad but all the collectables being random fruit that all just became Food was pretty disappointing after 1 and 2
I suppose the shit from 2 just "becomes money" but most of them were real creative designs and (for a while at least) had a good usage rather than just more time.
The parts from 1 are self-explanatory, they all had their own scifi babble description.
Are you getting this game physically or digitally
I always go physical when it's an option
what's even the point of digital on a console? shit is just asking to be lost to the aether in 10 years since you can't even manage files without jailbreaking and hacking stuff
You guys really do not understand how digital games work, do you? Do you worry your steam library is going to just disappear one day too
Digital
I was really hoping I didn't need the dog but seeing as how you need it to get across water, along with smashing through objects it seems it's required
I really, really hate it right now. Looks so out of place in the pikmin squad too. Hopefully the game can change my mind
ice dweevil in the back. probably the whole family will return, just hopefully not the ones that wait for your pikmin to be carrying something then drop down from above and suicide bomb you for some reason
seeing the ice dweevil is surreal. like something you’d find on the pikmin canon turned real
expect to see an icy blowhog too
>250 million years later on a posthuman earth
>intact human homes
>>250 million years later on a posthuman earth
headcanon
>t.glow pikmin
Uh oh
where does this image imply it's post-human
that was always headcanon, now you're being made to face it
I accept your concession of defeat
You lost when Nintendo proved that it's not a post-human Earth.
The Mild Wetlands of Neo-Australia
The Tropics of Melted Antarctica
The North American Trans-Atlantic Sandbar
The Frozen Russo-Eurasian Tundra
The Arid Desert Steppe of New-India
Every time the captains travel through space with their little FTL ships, they find Earth in different configurations across hundreds of millions of years due to time dilation. It's been so absurdly long that the continents have shifted configurations hundreds of times every time they visit, but they don't know or care to notice.
That doesn't make sense or Louie would've died in Pikmin 2 and Olimar in 3.
It's likely an alternate timeline following from the bad ending of Pikmin 1, with the decay of manmade ruins not happening yet
There were already intact human locations in 2 and the treasures being in mint condition.
1 was really the only game in the series that made it seem like it was in some kind of post apocalyptic earth.
Though I seriously doubt we will ever see an actual human or anything like that. The devil probably thought it would just make for a fun level.
My art isn't as good as your pic related but I tried
Amazing work and very cute. Can you give the Ice Pikmin five petals instead of four?
Sure
I'm very thankful. Keep doing it and you will be automatically better.
And here are six of the crew mates found. We are missing one.
Guy in blue is not added as he is not wearing red, which is the color of the rescue corp.
1+2 NSPs are up
Anyone considering double dipping on digital 1/2 tonight then getting physical in September?
The caves don't look randomly generated anymore. Thats good.
I played through 3 Deluxe’s story mode and side stories, and I didn’t see the indoor environments that I thought I saw as DLC for 3. Are they bingo maps or something?
Yes, and challenge maps
Gotcha, I thought all of the missions were just story segments + time limit, so I didn’t bother.
The mission mode is the best part of 3, definitely go and get all of the platinum medals in that. They didn't talk about it today but I'm hoping that there's another mission mode in 4. It looks like they're just going to have more content in the main game though, maybe the Olimar fights will be repeatable or something.
Cool, will do. I liked the side story missions a lot
Challenge mode you have a map that's inside a house Christmas themed
The only indoor one in challenge mode is the Christmas one.
There are two bingo battle maps that have the glutton's kitchen toy box theming.
i'm ok with the in tact homes because it reminds me of chibi robo and as a gamecube baby that makes me happy
I can't believe how horribly mismanaged the Chibi-Robo franchise has been. A modern Chibi-Robo where you can explore an actually full-sized house and not some puny cottage would be absolutely incredible. No game was better at actually making me feel small since the setting was so relatable and so large.
I"M SO FRICKIN EXCITED TO EXPLORE A HOUSE
PLEASE LET ME EXPLORE A BASEMENT PLEASE
This but 100% unironically, hope we get to see a destroyed city along the way
>implying nu-Pikmin will have the balls to depict the existential themes and implications of PNF-404
Nope, it'll be plastic bubbly cities full of life somehow with a godawful camera angle, blurry textures and a stupid fricking dog
Your doomposting can't hinder my excitement
>Attic level
>have to avoid cracks in the floor that are "bottomless" holes
>bathroom level
>massive full tub that you can sail across the top of with Oatchi or sink to the bottom with your blues and encounter some bigger aquatic enemies
>navigate across a massive vanity and toilet. Toilet and sink drains could be access to caves
>too much human civilization when it was much more subdued in previous games
>camera angel is terrible, obvious they did this to show off the backgroundss rather than for a gameplay reason
>3 pikmin type limit
>RPG elements make you stronger, but the enemies don't look any more difficult
>Nighttime made playable, where the fauna is supposed ot be mroe fierce, but they give you overpowered glow pikmin which defeats the purpose of a difficulty spike
>imposed pikmin limits
>Game balancing is all around the dog gimmick
Do you seriously, unironically not know that Pikmin games have multiple camera options?
The 'RPG elements' are just the upgrades from 2 but you buy them now.
it's the result of Nintendo's new art direction being very sanitized and blocky, exclusively made for moronic children, everything has a too-clean, too-simple look that doesn't fit. It's uniform across all their games, same in TOTK. it's like some asiatic looked at the art of Pikmin 1 and 2 and took the most superficial elements of it without really getting it
I was talking about this in a Mario RPG thread, so sorry if this comes across as repeating myself, but what you're talking about isn't an art style change it's a change to the nature of video game graphics in general. With older games, they used baked in lighting so they were able to add a lot more detail artificially. Now most companies don't really bake in lighting anymore or do little of it and rely more on actual lighting systems. This does have a negative effect of reducing "lighting detail." But there are numerous problems with baking in lighting, in particular how difficult it would be to draw up all those super detailed textures at 1080p that make it really unfeasible for modern games. We're never going back to baked in lighting, though with each new console the lighting systems will get better, and get closer to what baked in lighting looked like.
>We're finally going home bros.
I wish we were.
Alas. We're only drifting farther away from home every day. Yet one day; beyond Death's horizon, there lays our true home.
Those who tasted enlightenment know.
This is how I react when I lose a Pikmin in a cave when I replay 2.
Do we have an ACgay-type anti-Pikmin schizo? Because the last Pikmin thread, this one, and the other one have one guy shitting and screeching over what is probably the most beloved nintendo franchise (on Ganker at least)
>ACgay-type anti-Pikmin schizo
QRD?
I mean there's definitely somewhat of a divide in the fan base between people who prefer 1 or 2 I don't know if we have a schizo though.
You're misunderstanding. It's all just the same guy, Eric. He shitposts about every Nintendo game. You can tell it's him because he has autism, so there's no nuance to his lame criticisms, he just repeats the same thing over and over - like how he spent 6 years straight calling BotW an Ubisoft game.
I mean I think BOTW is an Ubisoft but not a chance in hell would I shit on Pikmin 1-3. They're some of the most fun, unique and soulful games in the entire medium.
I never played much 3, maybe I should give it a go.
3 is the best one.
yes
3 is great.
>travels non-blue/winged pikmin over water
>carrys things
>fights enemies
>breaks barriers
so this is everything we worried about regarding him babying the game? None of these things sound like issues we didn't already have specific pikmin or a group of pikmin for. MAYBE a body of water doesn't have a shore you can climb up on your own so he'd have a unique role for that maybe
Just don't use him then
You're limited to 3 Pikmin types at once, so you'll probably run into a hazard that your squad can't overcome without the dog
Then go back and exchange for a type of pikmin that will help you advance past the hazard
IMO pikmin is at its best anyway when you are making regular returns to the ship. Small incursions each time, venturing out to get a treasure here and there.
When you have 100 pikmin and all the types and then you just steamroll every obstacle, enemy and treasure in front of you is when pikmin is at its least fun.
I really doubt you can change your types of pikmin during the day. It seems that you have to choose which types you'll bring for the day. You can bring the onion closer but it won't magically change color.
>so this is everything we worried about regarding him babying the game?
You don't start with the abilities though. For example at the start he only counts for 1 toward carrying something, basically worthless. Probably does not damage and cant carry shit either. You will unlock those upgrades probably by beating dungeons. And this also allows them to balance things around those powers, for example making later bosses have more health to account for his damage. I'm not worried about it.
>fricking skill trees with a pikmin game
I'm trying to be fair here, we basically had progression in P2 with the unlocks from caves, this probably won't be too far off, and honestly unlocking more pikmin in the game is also progression. This is just presented in a way I don't like.
I can understand your worry because fundamentally this looks like something other companies would do. It looks like a system you might see in an Ubisoft or EA game. But Nintendo has repeatedly shown in recent years that they can adopt trends used by the rest of the industry but simply do them better.
If the upgrades were rewards for bosses, exploration or caves, like Metroid or Zelda, I'd feel better about it.
This guy seems like the balancing factor behind only being able to have three other Pikmin types at a time, with the caveat being that while he can fill a lot of roles, he can't cover everything at once.
Couldn't they at least have made Oatchi a type of Pikmin? That way, him being such a big part of the game wouldn't feel so fricking dumb
Game would look great if Oatchi wasn't a thing
all of you morons shitting on oatchi can frick off
I would guess the purpose of Oatchi is to limit the player in where they can go. The map is more open ended and less linear so they're not likely to pull the shit where you are given a bunch of gates you have to break down to get to the dungeons/treasures. Instead Oatchi will serve that role, by upgrading him you will be able to reach different areas and be able to fight or deal with bigger threats.
all of you chads shitting on shitchi can stay
The limits in this game make it sound ever more fun. You actually have to think about shit for once and strategize.
I saw nothing regarding how many captains you can swap between in the level at once. Any source on that?
I remember Pikmin 3 on the WiiU I could manage paths for captains to autopilot traverse and manually do things with whichever captain arrived at their destination. It was the most auto-play I've ever had in a Pikmin game but my god was I efficient. Dunno how P3 on the switch handled this if at all, and I wonder how much i can micromanage and auto set in this game.
Only one playable captain.
You rescue blue and red captains.
Blue captains are just random npcs.
Red captains allow you to do more stuff. One allows you to move on to the next day, one trains your dog, one sells you Gear and items, and one allows you to go on night missions. We don't know what the other two do.
frankly Im not upset
that's more dimension of micromanaging, I like to turn my brain off while being efficient with like 1 strategy
>One allows you to move on to the next day
what? so the day is endless until you find that captain? that doesn't make sense
>Purples are back
Aww yeah
So it's just one captain this time? The people you save just seem to be home base members to upgrade stuff. 3 captain multitasking was a bit much.
the only thing that looks legitimately terrible so far in the game is the lack of splitscreen co-op. There’s no fricking excuse, Nintendorks. Let me play this fricking game with my girlfriend, even if I have to make her the stupid dog.
but they're putting lots of effort into multiplayer competition mode it seems
my girlfriend isn’t going to want to play competition mode because I’ll fricking destroy her, so I couldn’t care less
MY BROTHER, SAME
She'll play Animal Crossing and Mario Kart with me, I got her her own Splatoon and we play that together, but she's not into every game I want to play, which is fair but still
can they introduce me to my future girlfriend?
I just couldn't get into Pikmin anymore after they stopped using C stick control with the move to Wii and beyond. I liked using that for battles and nectar use.
this was my biggest complaint with 3. well that and the initial loss of the piklopedia. why the frick would they take away swarm control? it was so good
Light Pikmin are the ghosts of fallen Pikmin, that's why they're so spooky.
I fricking hate the dog. All the problems this game has and will have are all because of the decision to force a dog companion.
The dog is literally the best thing about Pikmin 4 so far.
Is ops pic official?
Are purple and white coming back?
Yeah, every Pikmin type is confirmed.
Red
Blue
Yellow
Purple
White
Pink
Rock
Ice
Green
EVERYONE IS
HERE
caves are back, theres still a chance
I am baffled that there are people who are happy that they limit you in what you can do in this sequel, notably preventing you from having multiple pikmin types. Guess it's the modern gamer mentality.
Well if the alternative is not having every pikmin type or having them relegated to side modes only like in 3 I prefer it this way.
Wheres mission mode, surely they bring it back right?
Glow Pikmin are too cool to be relegated to such a minor role.
I'm hoping there's missions that take place at night or something to allow them to be used more
W-what happens in the red zone?
The eyes glow red. It's probably like Dead Rising zombies getting stronger at night.
It's a good thing you can only use 30 pikmin at once. The dog would die if it had to carry any more than that!
That dog's gonna carry my 100 purples and myself
You can use more than 30 later in the game.
So, there won't be multiple playable captains and the go here feature won't come back?
Correct.
Man, that fricking blows, the go here function was the best addition to the franchise. It makes no sense to get rid of it now that the game seems more open ended.
It is possible they could have just adapted that function some otherway, like maybe you can tell a group of pikmin to go somewhere on their own.
Oatchi can act as a second captain and he can throw Pikmin on his back.
What if the Oatchis take over command?
>Oatchi can frick your wife while you’re away on business
>Oatchi: Leave it to me!
OH SHIT
I thought the dog was completely moronic. Well then, if you can send him elsewere with a pikmin squad, that's good enough for me.
Why is Ramilo a thing
>Start a day
>Bring blue, winged and yellow pikmin because of some treasures you know you can get
>Get a few treasures using them
>Run into crystal wall blocking one off
>Have to go back and swap out your yellows for rocks
>Break crystal wall
>There’s a cave behind it that needs yellows and reds
>Go back and swap them out again
>Get to sublevel 5 of the cave
>Turns out there’s a treasure that needs winged pikmin that you can’t get because you swapped them out for reds
This might happen to an extent, it seems like being able to move your onion to different landing zones will reduce this. I'm kind of worried about the game feeling like DK64 but I trust them to have considered that kind of thing. Being able to move your ship is also pretty cool because it forces you to consider if Pikmin carrying something wouldn't be able to get back to base and possibly be killed at sunset if you move it, it's a pretty cool mechanic.
I wish the limit was 5 types at least. 3 seems too restrictive and I feel like it’ll just reduce the amount of strategic thinking I can do.
I've been waiting for Pikmin 1 and 2 to be ported.
This is great news.
I just want to close out this thread by saying that if you didn't play Pikmin on the GameCube then you have never really played any Pikmin. Waggle controls are soulless.
My only issue is that I don't like the new logo