>Pirate a game
>Have a lot of fun
>Don't buy game afterwards
>Don't support devs through other means
>Don't buy merch of game
>Don't recommend game to any of my friends
>Don't create any positive buzz around game
Devs should be honored I spent my precious time on their game, they really can't expect anything else from me
> Be me
> Stumble upon this thread
> OP proudly proclaiming his love for piracy
> Oh, how noble! /s
> So, let me get this straight, OP
> You think it's totally cool to steal someone's hard work?
> And you're proud of it?
> Wow, such a rebel
> I can practically hear the world applauding your moral compass
> I mean, who needs to support developers, right?
> They totally don't deserve to be compensated for their efforts
> Let's just snatch their games without a second thought
> Because, hey, why pay for something when you can just take it for free?
> It's not like those developers have bills to pay or families to support
> Nope, their work is just there for us to plunder
> So, bravo, OP
> You're truly a shining example of integrity and respect for intellectual property
> /sarcasm off
Copyright and Intellectual Property is a stupid idea. People will make copies of things and sell/give them away because they want to and people instead of sperging out should improve and either make a new thing or make your thing the best it can be.
>Copyright and Intellectual Property is a stupid idea.
If these things weren't invented, things like literature would've been killed long ago
Except that's not true in the slightest, no one made literature or any form of art to get rich. Maybe in the modern shitbag world but for thousands of years people wrote, painted, sculpted because they wanted to, most didn't even get known until after they died.
If anything if copyright existed like it did today there would be countless books that would be unknown.
>no one made literature or any form of art to get rich
You can't eat literature or art, nor feed a family with it
speak for yourself
No shit, which is why most people who did this shit did it either as a dirt poor barely surviving mess, or they managed to get lucky and make bank off of it. The vast majority of these people did it purely as a hobby.
Most authors, artists, and musicians back in the day died poor and most likely afflicted with a severe disease. It's only in the past couple of decades where they started getting rich.
>What are commissioned artpieces?
Also that wouldn't happen if you couldn't sell it.
Imagine making a research project or scientific writing
>Have to probably travel
>Need to reserve time from scientists
>Need to commission artists
>Need to get things fact checked
>After a 3 year project that took most of your money and time, you are required to give it away for free
I wouldn't want to compose music in that kind of world.
>What are commissioned artpieces?
>Get paid for doing your research or writing
>Research isn't paywalled
>Research is used to develop other things that are profitable
>Research is built on by other researchers
>Get paid for doing your research or writing
Why would they if you are supposed to give your creative work for free?
You would be fricking insane to fund that, just wait for someone to do that without any cost
>"B-But nobody is gonna do that if you don't pay them or fund it... Otherwise it wouldn't be possible for anything to get done!"
Ding ding ding.
Next time you create anything in your life, you better give it out for free.
Though that is implying you can even do anything creative
Where in the frick is it implied all your shit should just be given away for free.
You can still make and sell shit, no one is saying you can't. The point being made is you shouldn't get ass mad and imprison or financially ruin someone because they feel like copying your work.
It was done for millennia yet only in the last few centuries has it become a big deal. In earlier times it wasn't such a big deal due to copyright only lasting for a short time, but in the modern times where copyright will last multiple lifetimes it has gone to absolutely ridiculous levels.
Books are by far the worst, there are thousands of books that will almost certainly be lost to time because publishers get ass mad someone scanned a 50 year old book and uploaded it on to the internet when it's been out of print for 30 years.
>"You can of course sell things!"
>"But don't be mad if I take it for free, share it to as many people as I can and keep encouraging everyone to do the same"
>"But you can still try and sell it!"
>"Wait, why are you focusing your art only to the mass market normalgays who don't know how to pirate? Wtf is wrong with artists baka"
Do you think Pokemon games are not pirated?
Not as much because
>Appeals to normalgays and kids
>Trading is one of the biggest appeals of the games
>As well as playing with others
>Merchandise is the main profit for Pokemon franchise(Appeal: Kids and normalgays)
Then you're not aware of how big Pokemon piracy is.
Also only your fourth point is valid.
>Appeals to normalgays and kids
I've been pirating Pokémon games since Gold came out in Japan. Kids can use emulators.
>Trading is one of the biggest appeals of the games
>As well as playing with others
And you can still do it with a pirated game.
Yeah, again this was normal for most of human history. People who made things made them and if people wanted to copy and share it they could without any issue. This is literally how religion was and still is spread, it was the entire philosophy behind shareware, which turned out to work extremely well.
Do you think the Black person who invented the spear was b***hing about how the unga bunga tribe stole his patented design?
>What is a research university?
Also see this:
If you actually knew a thing, you'd be aware that researchers consider scihub a godsend and there's NOT a single researcher who doesn't hate journal israelites.
Moreover, the prime reason for creating something is not to sell it, but to make something good that addresses a problem. After all, necessity is the mother of invention.
If you had your moronic way, then only shit that makes the most money would be created, which would be a loss for humanity (sales =/= value and sales =/= quality).
also, very often, shit that's sorely needed is not developed because execs think like crabs in a bucket (Scrap it, we're leaving money on the table and our competitors will benefit!)
Once again, intellectual property is cancer.
what a fricking idiot.
authors and creatives would do better, while managers, publishers and lawyers would earn less... what a horrible thing that would be for creative industries.
As we all see open source code has totally ruined coding and nobody can earn money with it...
Open source coding is one of the dumbest, most naive ideas in the world.
Stop posting and start killing yourself
Keep making donations to big megacorps. Your unpaid labor is appreciated.
>donations to big megacorps
that's what renting proprietary software is.
Copyright was never about authors.
It was pitched at Parliament by the London Company of Stationers, who operated printing presses in London and were desperate to recover their monopoly on printing.
The moment the Statute of Anne was passed, the Stationers proceeded to buy manuscripts (along with the rights) off writers for pennies and line their pockets.
Oh, the Homer and Shakespeare estates still fighting over respective publishing rights?
Have all of HP Lovecraft's work NOT being copywritten, and is thus published by anyone who wants, has that led to a noticeable decay in preservation or bastardization?
2 fricking Swedes having daily gunfights over the claims to Beowulf?
Face it anon, copyright exists so blood descendants and israelites can make money off things they didn't make. Those things should be free for all. Gaming used to have a culture that understood that.
>moron things literature didn't exist before copyright laws
oh nononoNONONONO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>improve idea
>monkeys copy that too
You’re a child. What’s more likely to happen is that any inventions and innovations are kept secret.
Wow you now have a reason to keep improving, if you manage to make something actually perfect somehow you can always make something else, inventors and creators don't stop at one thing if they are actually a inventor. Look at Tesla for instance, the man was making shit non stop until he was killed.
stop being so antisemetic goy
I would never say such a thing, israeli minds are some of the strongest in the world. Without them we wouldn't have many things as most things contributed to white inventions are in fact israeli.
>Copyright and Intellectual Property is a stupid idea
/thread
And that's a good thing. Literature has and always will be another means of propaganda
>/s
Go back to lewdit homosexual. we are high iq people who can discern what sarcasm is, you need that /s for lewdit subhumans
Anon most of us are autistic and can't detect sarcasm for shit
this
have a nice day
Good goyim. 3 shekels have been deposited into your account
Nice. What have you pirates recently anon? Always remember to pirate koei tecmo games
why did you greentext it all
> why did you greentext it all
some people just want to be in one of those Ganker screencap subreddits/gimmick accounts or read aloud youtube videos by some amateur voice actor
i'll keep pirating, cope troony
uhh guys... how can I upvote this heckin wholesome post?
is this pasta?
It is now
When did the Reddit homosexuals start leaking in.
>be homosexual
>use /s because implying sarcasm in text is to hard
>continue to be a massive homosexual
>/rant off
>When did the Reddit homosexuals start leaking in.
7 years ago, if you didn't realize, you're a newbie.
Impressive, teach me to farm (you)s oh wise master
>You're truly a shining example of integrity and respect for intellectual property
intellectual """property""" is not property
I get physical pirates stealing actual cargo from real ships but why is digital piracy considered stealing?
>why is digital piracy considered stealing?
it isn't
it's a different crime
the only reason homosexuals call it stealing is because they can't logically explain why it's bad so they default to an actual crime
The term piracy itself is a misnomer. Just say copying.
>you stole their game!
no I didn't, I was given a copy of their game by the nice person who put up the DDL link
>b-but now they don't get money!
They were never going to get my money
>b-but you stole their hard work!
Their hard work still exists, the game is still there
people just don't like the fact THEY paid and you didn't. It's crabs in the bucket to the nth degree
do you also wear programming socks and use discord?
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>pirate a game
>play game
>game good
>feel no need to tell anyone about the fact I pirate
>feel no need to center my personality around the act of piracy
>then OP comes in
Why the parrots though?
>He doesn't have a parrot seeking out the latest downloads for all of his favorite games
>Brah! Polly want a seeder!
all good pirates have parrots, anon
Just to mog on low rent parrotless wannabe pirates.
Same reason why I have 10 fricking pistols strapped to my chest.
I want to become a pirate just so I get a parrot
>his life sucks ass so anything even slightly illegal is seen as so cool to him and he needs to brag about it to the only people he thinks might care
>they dont care
OP please have a nice day in a timely fashion
How does the corporate boot taste anon?
Please show me where calling you a attention seeking homosexual has anything to do with corporations, I cant wait to hear this
Maybe if you simp hard enough for corporate chan, they will read your name in the chat homosexual. Don't get because I'm not afraid to share my accomplishments. Beta cucks are always quiet and reserved and wonder why Stacy never notices them
>He's still going on about corps
Kek. Didn't even read what i said. Fuclimg moron
Later homo. You should be fricking honored I gave you 5 minutes of my time I'll never get back.
incest is illegal in most countries but that didn't stop your parents
>Series doesn't sell
>No sequel
>Studio has to move to always online GaaS or load it with Denuvo to stay afloat
>Pirates whine and wonder why devs do that
>Gaming has much more sales than it ever did
>Piracy barely has any effect on sales anyway
>Most pirates either try before they buy or weren't going to buy the game anyway
>morons unironically think devs are moving to GaaS or weighing their games down with Denuvo to stay afloat
Piracy has a mostly positive impact on sales if the game is good, especially if there are follow up games.
BotW and TotK were both leaked intentionally ahead of launch and playable on emulators with no DRM and they were both significant hits.
can you thirdies get better thread starting material, we know its you gays posting gigachad on Ganker still
For some developers, wasting your time is unironically all that they want.
>huh why is everything always online now
See this:
It's not. What I don't buy off gog is pirated. No DRM for me. Even DRM intrinsic to specific games gets cracked.
it's a doggy dog world, if I can take something then I will take it, those devs have the luxury to make video games because their ancestors fought for the land and gathered resources through imperialism, the massacres committed by those ancestors can be excused but me downloading a game can't be? yeah, nah, if they want to stop me they're welcome to try, and whether I want to support them is my choice
morons like you that parade how superior they are for pirating will kill it. Mark my words.
I already have backups of everything that's worth playing anyway, and I would encourage everyone to do the same because you're probably right.
>game looks fun
>pirate it
>it's not fun
>money saved
Bring back demos you cowards.
If you buy games. That's fine, just remember Pirate chads are automatically superior to you in every way
>stops seeding
test
If I ever make a game I'm going to add an anti-piracy feature that changes all the dialog and text to pirate-speak
The game will still be fully playable, but every character will talk like a pirate
Also the end of the credits would change from "thank you for playing" to something like "to Davy Jones's locker with ye for pirating me game"
unironically SOVL
10/10 would buy
Would both pirate and buy.
Do people here unironically think the original creator of an item shouldn't get compensated if people copy his stuff and sell it for their own profit? That's fricking stupid. You people are genuinely moronic.
No. Piracy is negligible, especially compared to overall sales, and most pirates either pirate to try before they buy or weren't going to buy the game anyway.
Atheist mentality.
How?
There are multiple layers to this from the perspective of piracy.
>lol free stuff
It'd be reductive to not represent the consumer's sense of self-interest, might be childish, but it's a factor.
>Under the current model of game publishing, the devs already got paid by the publishers, which is where you money spent actually goes. Maybe some devs receive royalties proportionate to sales but that isn't universal and usually happens past a pre-determined sales figure.
>I am a free information fanatic. I think the digital age offers accessibility never before conceivable with the material limitations of the printing press or other physical media manufacture, and it is immoral to artificially restrict that accessibility.
>I am a true believer in the full free market. If people are pirating your game instead of buying it, it's because the pirated experience has out-competed the paid experience, and it can be argued that many buyers are simply not recognizing all of their options. As a creator/business owner, the onus is on you to adapt to this feature of digital file-sharing if you want to stay in business.
If they (the developer and/or publisher) truly valued their work then they need to be able to protect it.
It's a cost of doing business.
Path of least resistance, etc.
>they need to be able to protect it
It's not about "should be able to" or "have the right to" or "deserve". They can't protect it from torrenting forever. They are not able to.
Most sales occur in the first month or two, right? So they just to protect it during that time period OR offer something that pirates cannot provide such as 'exclusive' cosmetic skins but only for purchases during the first week or two.
The plebs go apeshit for that garbage.
After that the only people who pirate were never going to buy it to begin with.
>protect it
It’s not the work being protected: it’s the money.
So more accurately, your statement should be “if the developer truly valued the money their work could product they need to be able to protect it.”
And that’s both a revealing and a comedic statement.
What?
Publishers fronted the developers money, right? It's up to them to protect their investment. If they can't or choose not to then they have only themselves to blame for losing sales to pirates.
You're either a part of the solution or part of the problem.
You don’t understand the point being made. It’s possible to value something beyond the sheer monetary value of what it can produce.
Your philosophy is why YouTube is unusable nowadays. It is not about producing quality content. It is about producing algorithm content.
It’s cancer, and I wish you crawled back into the pit from whence your ilk spawned.
Black person, what?
Vidya used to be labors of love. There's still some developers that are passionate about their work but love doesn't pay the bills.
Comparing protecting your talent and/or investment to people gaming the algorithm for views on YouTube is moronic.
>Comparing protecting your talent and/or investment to people gaming the algorithm for views on YouTube is moronic.
Not him but that is a further culmination of the more monetarily cynical perspective you're representing here.
A fake culture made of plastic people worth millions of dollars each.
I don't even play video games, I just pirate them because I deserve all of the everything for free. Because I'm meeeeeeeeeee. Me me me. Meeeeeeeeeee. Me me. Me. Me me me. Meeeeeeeeeee.
Good place to start pirating games? (If I'm even allowed to ask here), moved to a new place where money's gonna be tight but I still want to try out more games
skidrowreloaded.com best
dodi-repacks.site 2nd best
fitgirl-repacks.site meh
>malware
>malware
>malware
Private trackers or nothing.
so then what's a good place that isn't just malware
thepiratebay.org duh
find the community and ask questions, you will learn literally nothing if you don't investigate the various discords, forums, bbs, etc. It's a maze but you have to participate if you want to be safe. In all fairness, Ganker is a good start for you. If you haven't learned some basics in this thread then you're a lost cause.
>https://www.scamadviser.com/
Alright goyim
you never used any
and installed two antiviruses
1 release group and 2 repackers? are you brown by any chance?
The absolute best is getting into private trackers. I recommend other boards for this, or asking around some friends if they can vouch/invite you into one but you having to ask this in 2020+3 might mean you know little about these circles.
fitgirl-repacks.site is a good site, I still use it time-to-time but again the very best are private trackers. If you are serious about piracy, I also heavily recommend you to check the criminal law in your country/state/whatever wether you'll need to set up a VPN (your own, don't use commercial ones) or if you can pirate as much as your little heart desires. More often than not, it's found near the copyright-abuse and copyright laws in the intellectual property sections.
>malware
Hello tech-illiterate-kun!
>Private trackers or nothing.
atleast you are atleast correct on this
Based. I have nothing against piratechads. I just don't appreciate the cowardly mental gymnastics of pussies who can't own up to what they've done.
weak bait but just good enough to get replies out of nu-/v/
>Pirate game
>Steal other people's stuff
>The sweet sound of whiny children intensifies
All of the stuff should belong to me because me good because me is me and me me me me me me me me me me me me.
>Steal other people's stuff
It's a file anon...
>Steal other people's stuff
what did I steal? I downloaded a file they themselves put on the internet
Pirating is whatever but why would you act smug about it? People who use the gigachad are massive homosexuals btw.
gigachuds
>pirate a game
>its shit
>lie and tell everyone its great because remorse
>peace of mind restore
>not recommending your friends to pirate the game
Why do you hate your friends?
>Pirate a game
>Refuse to elaborate
>Leave
>pirate a game
>a corporation loses 60$
>pirate it 100 000 000 times
>same corporation goes bankrupt
I love being a pirate. Paypiggies need not apply
>pirate game
>have fun
>buy game on discount
>have more fun
>sequel of game comes out
>buy it
>it's shit
happened more than once
Happens every time
>buy game on discount
>have more fun
fake pirate gay
walk the plank
why is it more fun after paying money for it? Die Black person
Calm down thirdie
>third worlder for not wanting to pay for product I already consumed
You're literally talking like a paypiggy, you fake pirate frick
go to Davy Jone's Locker NOW
That but I also support video game crackers on Patreon. Cracking is hard work and a hard work needs fair wage.
Copyright infringement is just a greedy attempt at defending the integrity of an art piece.
At least be honest and say "Yes I made this and I want to be paid for when people are getting benefited from this" so everyone can see where your passion really is.
>the integrity of an art piece.
copies are all the same. there's no integrity being 'violated.'
>where your passion really is.
nowhere apparently
I totally support piracy, but if you really liked a game you really don't feel even the slightest impulse to buy it eventually? Maybe when it's on sale or something?
Hard to justify it when you have to choose between eating for a week or playing a vidya.
You’re a fricking Black person. Fricking Black person. have a nice day you fricking Black person.
Don't you Argies get some of the most amazing regional prices?
>most amazing regional prices?
you're only getting half the story:
>commie israelite bugmint keeps exchange rates artificially low so selling foreign currency entails a 50% loss
>buying foreign currency is only purchasable at 175% of official rates (200% in some cases) due to taxes
>foreigners abuse this as our bugmint doesn't hit them with taxes
>Argentina
I have a question, Mateo
why is it you "people" insist on using mics in games, while being in the most anti-communication environment humanly possible? Is it a meme to you guys or something?
>while being in the most anti-communication environment humanly possible?
The French?
I have never joined a game and had a baguette fricker on the other end with 2 screaming children, a vacuum seemingly going for 45 minutes straight, and yelling, not noticeable volume but literal yelling, of a guttural ape language into what I can only assume is a 45 cent headset that makes you sound like you're coming from a GBC sound chip, at 200+ ping of course.
>you people insist on using mics in games
who? I don't even play multiplayer slop.
based, express this sentiment to your countrymen and other Mexicans, please.
Or you could just mute their underage asses, Jamal.
I'm not saying there's no solution, I'm asking, culturally, why it's almost always the spics. What about them culturally makes them do this? Surely this is annoying even to other Mexicans, right?
Subhumans come in all colors and sizes. No point in singling out any one group.
en masse, blacks do not do this, whites do not do this, asians do nor do this, when this phenomenon is almost 90% from one ethnic group I believe it is a perfectly fair question
Yes, but only a handful of games deserved my money.
I don't understand this "support the devs" excuse.
They already got paid for making the game.
>game sales bad
>publisher refuses to publish next game or they shut down the studio if they own it
Is it really that fricking difficult for you to. understand, you braindead moron?
Nah that's not how it works, not anymore companies will churn out devs non stop, the turnover rates at these companies is absolutely mind boggling. By the time you buy a game even if it's new there's a good chance over half the team is gone.
When it comes to indie shit it's a non-issue.
Calm down Shlomo.
Not my problem if they got fired, skill issue.
Considering it's been proven that piracy has no strong effect on sales, I suppose the difficult part of this is what this has to do with piracy
Correction: piracy has no effect on sales. moronic corpo bootlickers keep thinking that piracy=lost sale but they fail to grasp the very simple fact that there's hundreds of millions of poor as frick mexicans and other hispanics who would NEVER buy your game. They simply don't have the ability to do so with the salaries and currencies being so shit.
Instead you could argue those people don't "need" to play or pirate vidya (since it's a luxury product) and you'd have a semblance of a point but that's a discussion about something else entirely.
>No DRM (steam is not a DRM with how easy it is to remove)
>Goes on sales >=50%
>Not >$30 base price (Or pushed below $5 in a sale)
Then MAYBE I'll buy it, otherwise the publisher/developer is too israeli and I'll just pirate it.
I recommend the game to paypigs if I like it.
It's common courtesy.
Gaming has been absolutely destroyed by the profit incentive, the only solution is stop using an obviously failed system
Somali pirate Black person.
Pirating is literally the better option for me, even if i can easily afford games steam service is so fricked here, transaction is based on luck sometimes it works sometimes its not
If all video games were free and no one paid for them ever, what would the state of gaming be today? Better or worse?
We'd have very few, and they'd either be pieces of art completely made as a passion project and they'd be great, and also shitty rpgmaker games by people who wanna make games but also don't want to put in effort. I doubt we'd see any in-between
Everything would be full of ads or would have gacha/loot box mechanics.
You'd see less overall with more prominent projects being an autistic work of passion.
Alternatively, you'd probably see an explosion of patreon-like models with all the pros and cons those already have.
If you wouldn't have bought the game to begin with, you might as well not exist in the eyes of the devs, anyways.
Piracy is only a problem for devs if it means lost sales
You can't call media piracy theft if the company selling the games, in this context Steam, has the ability to remove them from your library or bar access to multiplayer features for any reason they want. In this scenario I wouldn't technically "own" the game even if I paid money for it, the same as if I paid Netflix for a monthly subscription.
The only true art is art published anonymously for free.
>People screech when you steal from big corporations
>meanwhile, big corporations steal concept art, 3D assets, backgrounds and all sorts of other shit without paying or crediting the artists
the absolute fricking state
Yeah I remember reading that Resident Evil 4 had some amount of outright stolen copyrighted material.
If you think piracy is bad, then you also think making or buying RE4 and games like that is bad by the same token.
>Just because it doesn't always happen means that it never happens!
African gray parrots are so cool
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