>Play as a Radical Centrist
>Win the game easily with a strong economy, healthy population and powerful military
Thanks Suzerain for confirming that my ideology is the best
>Play as a Radical Centrist. >Win the game easily with a strong economy, healthy population and powerful military
the frick is radical centrism
some of us were nt raised on poland ball comics
Fascism I assume?
Only when you're a moronic lefty
Oops, I said moron twice. 🙂
>Radical centrists borrow ideas from the political left and the political right, often melding them together. Most support market economy-based solutions to social problems, with strong governmental oversight in the public interest.
>The radical in the term refers to a willingness on the part of most radical centrists to call for fundamental reform of institutions.
>This approach typically leads to endorsing evidence, rather than ideology, as the guiding principle.
centrists borrow ideas from the political left and the political right, often melding them together. Most support market economy-based solutions to social problems, with strong governmental oversight in the public interest.
Sounds like Italian Fascism (at least until 1933)
Fascism is way more ideologically driven
Anon... Fascism had almost no ideological basis aside from party programs and speeches at the start. Italians literally picked any policies they liked and rolled with it, at the start they liberalized economy, then when the winds changed they nationalized like 80% of their economy.
At the start Fascism had a very thin ideological basis unlike marxism or liberalism, or even christian democracy
The only ideological tenet of Fascism at the start was "Frick Communism and Frick Internationalism" because Mussolini was kicked out of the Communist party and held a grudge, then it evolved with what was politically expedient at the time. Radical Centrism is more what Weimar Republic was doing.
>radical centrism is hyperinflation, prostitution and an attempt at kickstarting the troony phenomenon that failed thanks to the actual OG nazis coming into power
hmm
Prostitution and degeneracy weren't a political course as much as side effects of political aimlessness and stagnancy. You conflate aims and outcomes
Sounds like social democracy
otherwise known as fence sitting
It's one of shitty political memes by alt-right kekistani to present anything else than their own moronication as equally stupid.
Moderation is particularly dangerous to alt-right degens, so they will shit on it with all their might, even more than on the left.
Do you read what you write before hitting post or is your mental disease terminal
>the frick is radical centrism
National Socialism, unironically. At least as far as economic policy goes.
>At least as far as economic policy goes.
Raiding and pillaging?
R*ms and L*spians deserve it
It's a meme Macron tried going with once to make himself look kewler, but it's self evidently moronic name, so now it's mostly used ironically for schizo political positions.
Tim Pool.
That's possible in every path, you dolt.
t. full Malenyevist
Visual novels are not strategy games. Inb4 paraslop games, because those at least have a semblance of gameplay.
It's not even a visual novel. It's a picture book.
Ciara and Nia are fricking aren't they
A Morgna Wes Core!
Yollak Bluderat!!!
>centrism
The only ideology that completely changes depending on who you’re talking to.
This is false, my ideology changes depending on who I'm trying to piss off
>Centrism isn't change, it's control. Control over yourself and the world around you, exert it
This only makes centrism sound even better
My favourite path is when I convince everyone that I'm not going to nationalize anything and nobody will be out on trial
Then I nationalize the industry, use the secret police to arrest the oligarchs, put Soll on trial, etc. Stalinism 2.0
>My favourite path is when I convince everyone that I'm not going to nationalize anything and nobody will be out on trial
Yeah, I did this too. Just gave everyone honeyed words and then suddenly imprisoned all the oligarchs. Never saw it coming.
>you have to bend to our demands or we won't support the bill limiting your power
>suzerain, is that the new hip political term being used by pol nerds *soi gape*??
still havent played the new update, is it good?
It allegedly makes the game harder
I think they rewrote some shit
But honestly, it was a pretty short, mid game
Do you mean the update with the new amendments? Yes. It adds a lot of new scenes although it also overhauls the economy.
i meant the big update they had last year. dont know if it was 2.0 or some shit like that, but ive heard they added football clubs lol
Yup that's that then. Yeah it's definitely worth playing. Aside from fleshing out the political side by adding an amendment on the Bluds it adds also several other events which flesh out several characters such as Alphonso and the NFP leader. The football club thing probably refers to the football game event which I quite liked.
Centrist is so easy, it's cheating. Its just compromise after compromise, no one gets mad at you.
Why would you want to go with such a boring route
Realistic Centrism would be everyone getting mad at you, but still needing you, while trying to get rid of you and blame everything on you.
As in something like that
Actually what happened to me in my first playthrough.
Tried to compromise and navigate between all interest groups and got fricked for it.
I hate the military. Sometimes I give them everything and they turn on me for the most moronic reason
If you didn't beat rumburg you didn't beat the game
I beat rumburg without sanctions
It's so easy I'm surprised only 7.8% of players have beaten them
Wars are bad for the economy. Fricking them over with sanctions from both not-NATO and not-Warsaw Pact is much better.
Pretty sure you can do both by starting the sordish war machine. Then when you win you can get a bunch of extra territory which further cripples them like taking their energy supply through dome. If you ally with wehlen then your bro smolak will even purge the filthy rummish from the lands they claim.
>roleplay a weak soc-dem who gives his wife the speech and cucks out when leste gets mad
>monica is furious, refuses to speak to me and divorces me
>play a fascist who tells monica to frick off at every opportunity
>she acts perfectly normal (but eventually divorces me)
Really makes me think
>play as a fascist who pretends to support monica but then vetos her bill
>she doesn't divorce me
Really makes me think
Its because she is really stupid and all you need to do is let her play pretend with women council meetings that dont do anything. Its also really funny when she excuses blud wife beating because its their culture.
its obviously not since caving into her demands immediately brings feminist equality utopia represented by a green bubble. Ciara is also not much better because she pushes all the modern secular education stuff where she is upset that girls are taught feminine skills in school and hates all the nationalism stuff while also trying to force through banning creationism which you need to do fully to get the ultimate benefit of her reforms. You have the option of not doing it, but its obviously seen as "incorrect" and there are not really any good counter arguments made against what she proposes beyond just irrationally sperging out at her.
There is some token mention of potential backlash by some of the other characters like lucian but it does not actually happen and the benefits immediately happen during your first term rather than being seen as something set up for the future so its obvious they wanted you to feel good for doing what they consider the right thing.
>Its because she is really stupid and all you need to do is let her play pretend with women council meetings that dont do anything
Thats a really stupid argument because if you concede on ideological basis but block on the "legalistic" basis you just delayed the change by 10-20 years. Basically a classic conservative move, just be 10 years behind liberals
You have a point but she is also one of the worst people to be advocating for her cause and makes even other women sympathetic to her cause think she is a moron. Ideally you would just say no and divorce her to get a better wife even if it would harm your image at a critical time. She has pretty consistently been an anchor in your political career and homelife.
>Marries Young Sord member ex-military guy
>I-i never knew you were like this Ryan, i want a divorce!
I hate her character so much, its nonsense
Monica is probably the worst written character in the game. She's one-dimensional because her whole character is built around the women's rights but she doesn't react as you would expect to certain events
Author opinion of liberal feminists could be very low. In this house, we support socialist feminists, like Ciara.
>Ciara b***hes at me for increasing my decree power
>then asks me to use my decree power to force through feminism
I've got to respect her hustle
You do what you gotta do, brotha.
>lies to Koronti
>hustles Tusk out of a mil. to give to my driver, and get that cool pocket watch
>corr- ...I mean, "lobbies" politicians
>strips Soll's immunity, and do nothing, just to make a point
The only thing I know that upset all of you is a lack of second term, where you actually do SOMETHING with the economy you fixed, as president or vice president. But that part would require, like... 4 games to be made?
>Radical Centrist
so status quo and massive indecisiveness?
It's neither. It's about intelligent and strategic governance that is rooted in reality instead of ideology and dogma
>rooted in reality
Centrists are just as vulnerable to delusions as leftists and rightists
You confuse pragmatism with centrism.
my game keeps crashing on one spot and i never go to finish it 🙁
Gay ass political compass type posts in this thread rn
Funny, I also got radical centrist in my playthrough. I managed to almost get perfectly in the center, just a tiny bit towards reformationism
What route did you take /vst/ ?
I completely fricked my first playthrough, wanted to go dictator, went reformist by accident, geared for war with Rumburg that never came and basically financially ruined the country while accidentally allying myself with the Warsaw Pact of the setting
well that's what happened IRL so I can't blame you
>game is about post-WW2 not-Turkey
What the frick kind of history book have you been reading?
>wanted to go dictator, went reformist by accident
yeah I did that too because I figured it was just nice sounding words to have people let their guard down rather than me actually dictating policy. It works most of the game but you need to have a lot of meta knowledge on specific triggers to know what is fluff, a decision, or a modifier.
you pick your route when you're talking with your cabinet lol, you're a moron
Wow it would be nice if the game let you know somehow
What kind of moron openly tells his pro-reform cabinet that he wants to become a dictator?
You decide during your opening (or maybe 2nd) conversation with Petr and Lucian, both of whom can be absolutely trusted to be loyal to you no matter what you do
One of the judges is also there, which gets angry at you and storms out.
It was my first game so I didnt know how truly reliable they were. Saying a bunch of incriminating shit in front of people is just giving ammo to be used against you. You also had that obvious reformer judge mentioned
here, so saying placating words now to then later dictate the actual policy giving her less time to work against you makes sense at least to me. When you actually go the dictator route many of the dialogue options have you claim that this is to bring true democracy anyways.
It all just ties back into needing to know specific breakpoints to achieve stuff. If you do then you can accomplish a lot, but its all esoteric and prone to being changed with each patch.
Most of the time when there's a dialogue option that actually chances your policy it tells you in square brackets, accept for the most important decision in the game
I went hardline dictator, fricked most things up, refused to compromise, failed my goals, collapsed the economy, made enemies with almost everyone except the funny war crime man, my valet, and my army, and started a war with rumburg.
I was the most hated person in the world, and then I won a devastating victory by capturing that little b***h and dragging her to a train car for a peace treaty. And suddenly despite all of my failings I was the hero of the state.
Never had a second go at it because my first run was kino.
This game is miserable. The writing is full of filler, and the game is completely opaque about the most basic information needed to achieve your goals. If you aren't on the same page as the writers, you'll fail for no reason (want to play both sides of the cold war like neutral countries did IRL? Sorry, you can't do that). I hate it.
ADHD moron more suited for hoi4 i guess
kino game. we gonna get some juicy battles with the chuddia dlc as I've seen
I wonder if the Rumburg war will get the same treatment
I've had a couple runs already but now I want to cheat the budget just for fun, but for some reason when I edit the save file, the game gets stuck after the first choice/dialogue I go through. I can use most of the UI but I can't do anything to advance the game, there are no news or events.
Anyone knows how to avoid this? I've tried to edit the save file myself and I also tried an editor I found on github, but it was the same result. The game shows the amount I put, but it always get stuck.
I also had the same problem while playing without cheats, I dropped that save because I couldn't fix it.
you should be able to just set the BaseGame.GovernmentBudget to whatever you want. Keep in mind that at a certain point in the game it checks if your budget is too high or low and play the appropriate crisis. so you will want to be more precise initially.
I dont know how to fix your other issue though since its fricking up without save editing. I assume you do a full game restart after each edit since its the only way to get the game to recognize changes.
Finally finished the game with the ending I wanted. I really don't like how the only way to optimally play is by searching on reddit/neoseeker the outcomes for every event. The game is way too damn opaque. I like the setting, but this was a really bad princess raising sim.
Oh yeah, you're right it's just a princess sim. I wonder why that never clicked before.
the ultimate fate of all such games. see also: Life and Suffering of Sir Brante
>Life and Suffering of Sir Brante
That game was awesome tho.
Much better writing, choices and consequences and story than Suzerain, they came out at the same time too and im surprised that Suzerain took off while Brante has been relegated to obscurity
dropped it at ayywife
Your loss, last chapter is just awesome culmination.
I love it but I can see why it wasn't that popular. The game it's a niche inside a niche. Visual novels with political elements have its public but when you add things like cosmic horror it will limit that public even more
the willist path was pure kino, although shorter than the rest
Willist? You mean the priest? Or commoner?
Judge path was the most kino for me, just straight up tale or rise and triumph of will, from minor noble and bureaucrat of the regime to leader of first free city. If you had the balls to do it that is.
No he means Bruce Willis.
The priest
You become a god through sheer force of will
It's called "role-playing", you dolt. Why does every idiot think that not being told the future before you make a choice is a criticism?
The player is given less information than even the character does in-story. For example, you have no calendar to plan out when budgets/events occur. If the game was about role-playing more than intricate mechanics, then why are there so many intricate mechanics that are hidden from you?
Because you are expected to understand reality, and that your choices might have realistic outcomes. You DO understand reality, right?
I like roleplaying in Suzerain but the only fun RP playthrouhgs are the ones in which you RP as a moron, dictator or something like that. If you try to RP as a president who has acts strategically it will be frustrating since there's no much room for planning unless you already know the order of each event.
There are some excepctions, like the reforms, in which you're able to plan ahead to get the support you need, but things like economics or war are really hard to find good results unless you know exactly what you are doing, which usually happens after you finished the game a few times or looked at guides online.
Why would you use a political buzzword unless your intent is to bring on the moronic extremists from both sides to ree at you
I hate bluds, they always manage to somehow frick my plans even if I'm being respectful towards them
FRICK GLORIA FRICK GLORIA FRICK GLORIA THIRD FRICKING CONSTITUTION SHES SABOTAGED I'M GOING TO FIND A WAY TO SEND HER TO THE ROCK
She shall die without honour and not enter Valhalla.
Gloria is based, you should stop being so cringe and she'll vote for you
What? She's pretty much transparent about what she wants, so unless you decided to privatize too much she won't turn on you, which she mentions when you discuss the reforms.
As a moderate reformist she's probably the most valuable ally and arguably the best VP unless you've been taking bribes