Yeah but it's an interesting spin on why it exists here. Like it's literally explained in the game. You kinda feel bad for Adler who has no hope because of how fricked up these "humans" are now.
I liked it a lot, great blend of RE and SH. Problem is, the endings kind of suck, to unlock them is an obnoxious way to do it (especially if you're any sort of competent at those kinds of games), and there's nothing more to do after you beat the game.
Been a while since I played but you should be able to tweak the difficulty to your liking, and give yourself unlimited inventory space, so there's less "survival" elements to worry about.
That last thread was so shit it had like 6 mini threads going on inside it.
ADLR Did nothing wrong I recently got the promise ending, and now going for the memory
I feel like promise is easy to get if you play optimally. There are so many more healing items than ammo is it’s easier to just run around the facility and say “frick damage”.
I’m sorry, but this is THE MOST moronic puzzle I’ve ever had the misfortune of wasting my time with. I get that it’s a niche indie game with God-tier aesthetics/sound but jesus frick this game feels like a chore to play without following a guide. >tons of backtracking >archaic save points when you should be able to save whenever >no real enemy variety, just a bunch of shambling corpses with the occasional jump scare >only 7 hours
Except I wasn’t filtered I played an hour past that point. When a game only gives you one option to get through an obstacle like this it’s just bad design. It would’ve been more interesting if they had you lockpick the door, create an alternative route swarmed by enemies, or a solution in the form of another key behind a boss.
..anon, that -is- a lockpick. You're literally moving the pins to rotate the tumbler. You can see the alignment constantly and see how correct your adjustments are. Once the pins are aligned with the shear line the door opens. That is how lockpicking and keys work.
Nah, that title belongs to the FRICKING WATER PUMP.
I'm so fricking tired of these threads. I don't even want to talk about this fricking game anymore.
>filtered by trial and error
Do you not understand how locks work anon
Except I wasn’t filtered I played an hour past that point. When a game only gives you one option to get through an obstacle like this it’s just bad design. It would’ve been more interesting if they had you lockpick the door, create an alternative route swarmed by enemies, or a solution in the form of another key behind a boss.
..anon, that -is- a lockpick. You're literally moving the pins to rotate the tumbler. You can see the alignment constantly and see how correct your adjustments are. Once the pins are aligned with the shear line the door opens. That is how lockpicking and keys work.
Gonna add some info
The lock pick is ALWAYS RAMDOM as of 1.2 and doesn’t have a good explanation. I gave it a good 10 minutes, looked it up, still had no idea what to do before finally bruteforcing it and getting it 25 minutes later.
The water puzzle is ALWAYS the same and is so poorly designed the entire procedure for it was rewritten in 1.2. It actually became even more confusing to do too if you compare the notes.
These are the puzzles that do not require key items taking up inventory space, like a keycard taking up the same size as a gun, and also sometimes needing 6 items to progress.
The puzzles are fricking shit don’t act otherwise.
Maybe it was just growing up on old games that didn't explain shit, but seeing I could press buttons and it would adjust the screen gave me enough feedback to see what I had to do.
I had not a single issue with any of the puzzles besides Pareidolia that I couldn't solve because my screen gamma was too low, so I just bruteforced it. Acquire intelligence.
The only puzzle I struggled with was the radio antenna one because I thought I was supposed to find an item for it and I kept progressing and finding new things until I realized there wasn't anything left and I went around looking for something I'd missed that didn't exist.
>I’m sorry, but this is THE MOST moronic puzzle I’ve ever had the misfortune of wasting my time with.
This is quite literally the easiest puzzle in the game along with the water pump. The actual annoying puzzle is figuring out this nonsense.
I had it figured out at the start except I never examined the mural on the ground floor so I thought I'd done something wrong. Spent fricking ages overanalyzing the notes and doing different combinations until I went and explored the whole area again. That was some bullshit.
I’m sorry, but this is THE MOST moronic puzzle I’ve ever had the misfortune of wasting my time with. I get that it’s a niche indie game with God-tier aesthetics/sound but jesus frick this game feels like a chore to play without following a guide. >tons of backtracking >archaic save points when you should be able to save whenever >no real enemy variety, just a bunch of shambling corpses with the occasional jump scare >only 7 hours
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Gonna add some info
The lock pick is ALWAYS RAMDOM as of 1.2 and doesn’t have a good explanation. I gave it a good 10 minutes, looked it up, still had no idea what to do before finally bruteforcing it and getting it 25 minutes later.
The water puzzle is ALWAYS the same and is so poorly designed the entire procedure for it was rewritten in 1.2. It actually became even more confusing to do too if you compare the notes.
These are the puzzles that do not require key items taking up inventory space, like a keycard taking up the same size as a gun, and also sometimes needing 6 items to progress.
The puzzles are fricking shit don’t act otherwise.
genuine low iq issue
The only potentially confusing part is the astrolab thing because some of the markings can make it ambiguous
anon you can literally solve this easily by paying attention
the one that stumped me was the solar system map because i thought the puzzle piece is missing one ring and it didn't really connect at first
frick you, first of all it was tedious. Find the cards then you have to use the notes to piece together her gay ass dream diary, then go to the wall and put the moons in order, frick that bullshit. I know for a fact you hated doing it dont lie. Doesn't help that level is the most tight with no open areas.
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Gonna add some info
The lock pick is ALWAYS RAMDOM as of 1.2 and doesn’t have a good explanation. I gave it a good 10 minutes, looked it up, still had no idea what to do before finally bruteforcing it and getting it 25 minutes later.
The water puzzle is ALWAYS the same and is so poorly designed the entire procedure for it was rewritten in 1.2. It actually became even more confusing to do too if you compare the notes.
These are the puzzles that do not require key items taking up inventory space, like a keycard taking up the same size as a gun, and also sometimes needing 6 items to progress.
The puzzles are fricking shit don’t act otherwise.
While the rest of the puzzles are completely fine (and some probably watered down due to brainlets such as yours truly), the lockpick was a grind. I literally just put in random stuff until it finally clicked and I shrugged and carried on with the game.
Lockpick had the issue of the display being a little hard to discern in regards as to whether you have truly lined the tumblers up or not, but it really shouldn't take anyone more than a handful of minutes of fiddling with the controls before they understand what is it that they need to do.
?si=s842H086_mibPRgz >main fan VA for the game is a troony >officially commented on by devs and shills the game >did not even finish it until TODAY
lol
I was going to ask why troony/tumblr art always makes women so masculine looking, but then I realized what a stupid question that was. So I'm restating it as an observation.
This may surprise you, but a lot of lesbians really like masculine women. Not Ganker tomboy masculine women, but women with buzzcuts and dress like your 50 year old dad while he's tuning his car in the summer. I'm not sure why.
I've heard otherwise from IRL lesbians, that's kinda a myth. Bisexuals are of course into that because they look like dudes and they're also into dudes.
I think this game is talking about something a little more than human and kinda exploiting the lesbian shit as a "dehumanised" thing. It's sorta asking harsh questions about lgbt I think. It's treating it more than just a cult in the game, it's more like program to emulate human sexual impulses. But it also has this pure exploitative aspect that makes it clearly "a bit evil". It's so misshapen from even today's "abominations" that it makes those "abominations" look human at least. But it's also asking questions of "where is this really leading and is this really worth it?". It feels jaded and I guess self critical.
A state of "lividity" is very apparent. Being dead and dead inside.
false
lesbian women like other lesbian women who are feminine, no lesbian likes the butch hairy type unless they're also one or brainwashed by woke agenda
>no lesbian likes the butch hairy type
Well I wouldn't say that. I know the lesbians at my sports club are butch... although the butch ones were sometimes not lesbian at all, just butch.
And I'm not talking tomboy, I mean butch as frick as in "is that a dude or a girl" butch.
Turns out not all of those types are transgender nor gay.
They're attracted to penises but most of them were raped when they were children which explains all the hypocrisies with lesbians.
Again no lesbian is attracted to women they just have a trauma with men
?si=s842H086_mibPRgz >main fan VA for the game is a troony >officially commented on by devs and shills the game >did not even finish it until TODAY
lol
I hate to break it to you guys but lefty gays create media. I wish more developers were chuds but they're gays right wingers are too busy whining all day to create art. Its not hard just create a boomer shooter or something yet they wont.
Just finished it a couple of days ago, it was fine
Felt a bit too pretentious and cryptic just for the sake of it
The start was strong and the atmosphere at the beginning is superb but by the time you get to the meat dimension it gets kinda boring and repetitive, especially since the puzzles devolve into "find 6 of x to open the door to the next section"
That fakeout ending is the cheapest shit. It sends you back to the main menu and everything. So I figured that was it, they just couldn't think of a good ending and threw some garbage at you and called you moronic. How the frick is anyone supposed to know that you're supposed to try to IMMEDIATELY start a new game instead of just exiting the program?
You mean to say you didn't notice that the menu looked entirely different this time compared to before?
3 months ago
Anonymous
it was the same menu, unless it was changed in a patch to look different, and most people playing the game will have only seen the menu once, maybe twice, at that point
3 months ago
Anonymous
You actually missed the big fricking eye following your cursor?
Nevermind the wholly abrupt ending that should've clued you in to something being wrong.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you have no idea how many indie games have shitty abrupt endings
>start a new game
That doesn't sound like trying to figure out if the ending was real or fake, it sounds like starting a new fricking game from the beginning
calling people who dislike the game casuals didn't work
calling them /misc/tards didn't work
accusing them of being filtered didn't work
saying they hate and don't play games didn't work
but surely calling them trannies will
Like, do you have an actual argument, or are you just going to do everything you can to deflect?
Anon, the main menu changed massively and new game + has been a feature of the genre for decades. Barring that, the game beats over your head the idea of stubbornly pursuing a nearly unknown goal Remember your Promise..
You can be forgiven for not immediately guessing if you're like 19 years old and this is the first survival horror game you've played, but crying about it is fricking stupid.
You were close-minded and wanted to be upset, thats why you didnt stop to think. I on the other hand saw the gray dead eye and just guessed that this wasnt really gonna be the end.
Having played nier automata also helps not taking the first ending too seriously.
NTA, but I agree it's lame. For anyone who hasn't played silent hill it's just shit. It was 3 am when I saw the "fake" ending so I exited the game and uninstalled. It was the real ending for me. And it sucked.
The game actually started off real strong. Investigating an spooky and isolated sci fi base with anime lesbian robots should have been an easy slam dunk, but the moment the game revealed it's monsters to be goofy robot zombies with meat cleavers I knew the game was going to be dogshit. The last section with no map, tedious backtracking, the same puzzle reused three times, and a nonsense layout is especially bad.
>endlessly respawning enemies >give players items to stop them from respawning >more just spawn anyway >players expected to know to just ignore enemies and run past them because that's the "correct" way to play silent hill clones >constantly backtracking to stash because silent hill limited the player inventory so therefore it must be good design no matter how tedious it is
People liked it because they like silent hill and because they like anime lesbian robots and that's fine. Let's stop pretending it was a good game though, even if the fanart is super cute.
I liked it because it was a cool game with a very intriguing setting and a good sense of Lovecraftian dread, truly lovecraftian and not just "we got tentacles n shiet" that pop culture slop consumers think constitutes Lovecraft.
>How the frick is anyone supposed to know
You said it yourself, the story ending there made no sense. Also the menu after the fake ending was different to normal, and if you press any of the buttons including quit it continues the game. Did you just immediately alt+f4?
>if you press any of the buttons including quit it continues the game
that's the only thing that the patch changed, because get this - some high profile streamer/tuber actually quit at that point
I got caught by the fakeout ending too, but that's because I was sick when playing the game and wasn't paying too much attention. I did see that the main menu was different and the eye ceased its movement, it was a nice and fluid scene transition from the fakeout ending cutscene to the main menu. You should not react so aggressively to getting tricked, it was fairly innocuous.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How exactly should I respond to getting tricked? With a smile? No frick no, a trick is a trick. Anyone who tricks you is an enemy and has willingly marked themselves as such.
3 months ago
Anonymous
spoken like a true Black person
3 months ago
Anonymous
You sound unhinged. It's a fricking videogame.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine being hinged. Who defined those hinges? It probably wasn't you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You mustn't be a fan of comedians, street magicians, or circus clowns, huh?
3 months ago
Anonymous
damn, didn't know new autism diagnostic criteria just dropped
its ok at best imho. the story makes no sense, and the whole hexagon thing makes no sense as not alerting enemies is literally impossible through a lot of encounters. it could be better.
>survival horro game >fricking anytime someone mentions it its about the lesbians
fricking hell its like if you tried talking about silent hill and the only thing they talked about was James and Maria having sex
its so annoying
I want to say something clever about James' biggest problem being that he and Maria were not having sex because she was mortally ill, but you are still correct.
anytime someone mentions it its about the lesbians
Its because you fricks only talk about them waifuhomosexualing endlessly. Look at this thread. When its not your resident schizo stirring shit up, its the coomers and trannies selfinserting.
what else is there to discuss in the game, than the characters and fandom-esque discussion about how they would act outside of the story?
or are you well-aquainted with east german culture, with just a dash of chinese?
There is a lot of that east/west berlin feel to it ay.
Something completely alien to me, having be born well after the fall of the wall.
But I could tell that aspect of the creator's context lingered very heavily on their minds in the creation of the game. The whole facility feels like regimented hellish nightmare where while it's trying to humanise things, there is something not quite right going on with the state and the abyss in the facility merely reflects what's happening deep in their own society.
As Elster descends into the facility and it's monstrousness becomes apparent, more is revealed about her own world and state in the process. They're sorta concatenated in a very clever way and this totally went over people's heads as far as reviews and shit goes. There's this heavy industrial soviet east german feel to things. It's not positive. It's very sinister in itself, because the pamphlets and whatnot are clearly laced with lie after lie. And you attached that to the realing truths as you descend into the dark. You also attach that to their meticulously detailed lifestyles - which people seriously think is just cutesy fanservice when clearly that was subversively concatenated with this sense of "something is wrong, something shouldn't be this way".
And something that is wrong is conveyed very sexually, very visually, very de-generatively (talking the degeneration of human form to mere flesh and blood pools) for a purpose. It's asking questions on our humanity and how our society may potentially be perturbing that for mere societal interests, not human individualistic interests. We're being turned into mush.
And then there's the eyes, the singularity, the hivemind, the disease and flagellate-like ritualism being evoked. Self punishment to find some truth, but ending up deep in an abyss to nowhere (literally a location name btw).
It's happening again, not again.
we get it, and I get it. I hate people calling this game troony-core.
So again, Sierpinski S-23 was semi bullshit in Elster mind? That's what I took from playing it
>survival horro game >fricking anytime someone mentions it its about the lesbians
fricking hell its like if you tried talking about silent hill and the only thing they talked about was James and Maria having sex
its so annoying
He's right. That's exactly what signalis fans do. >haha, play it, dude. it's scary and it has lesbians
The gay shit actually made me hesitant and it's still really really good though.
It's kinda half explained and made a horror element in itself. Like why are they all nothing but girls? Why is that state making this a thing? Why is Alder treated like absolute shit until he snaps?
The yuri becomes less fanservice, more of a tool of oppression in the context of the game. It's so strange how it tricks people with the yuri tag still and no one considers it "a weird thing" for other contextual reasons. It's like female slavery is a common thing.
It really isn't, shitty RE clone that doesn't understand what made RE so good. You only have 6 item slots which means half the game is backtracking to item boxes to deposit items unless you run around naked.
On top of that, instead of having good ammo management/limits for the number of enemies, the game just respawns enemies. Personally, it just doesn't with a backtrack heavy inventory management based survival horror. Not for me.
>the point is to run pass the enemies pleb. You only need to use weapons when facing against a boss. You can literally blitz past everything.
most self aware Gankertard not understanding how this completely defeats the purpose of respawning enemies and his own argument.
I swear to god, there's like a unique breed of moronation on this board that nobody ever addresses. Sometimes I don't believe any of you are human.
Also NTA btw, because I know you're moronic enough to think so.
at the end of the day Gankertards can only insecurely and defensively appeal to "It's not hard! you're just skill issue!" even when the argument is nothing about difficulty, because with the rise of dark souls, the "difficulty complex" and all the problems that have come with that, has become the only way some morons can understand and interpret games or game design "It's good if it's difficult and le filters!" or "it's good because you think it's hard but I think it's easy, so I'm better!"
you're seething because you failed to learn how to permanently dispose of enemies in paths you would be reusing while skillfully avoiding or spending ammo on enemies you would encounter only once or twice based on room layout
please acquire some measure of skill before playing games and critiquing their difficulty
>creator is they/xir >music video features suzie ballsackhunter >main characters are 'lesbians'
uh-huh
nice goalposts i can just barely see them with binoculars
game features transgender android lesbians, deal with it
3 months ago
Anonymous
no it doesn't and anyone who is reading this conversation can go read a plot summary if they're not going to play the game just to see how wrong you are, it's very simple and easily disproven
>politics are infesting the board, but how dare you you talk about a game and it's problems instead of b***hing about /misc/
talk about video games it's not fricking difficult
3 months ago
Anonymous
they are literally trans-coded frick off bigot
3 months ago
Anonymous
>talk about video games it's not fricking difficult
We've been talking about the game, you're the one who brought up politics in this comment string
>permanently dispose of enemies
It's been a while since I tried to play it (and quit out of tedium) so I might be wrong, but can't they actually still get up again after being "permanently" disposed of?
3 months ago
Anonymous
no absolutely not, if you use a flare or shoot a flare gun into them they will never revive, which is just how it works in re1 remake
>the point is to run pass the enemies pleb
This is the reason all of these modern survival horror games suck, nobody actually played the early games, just read about them. After you get the shotgun in Resident Evil you can play the game more or less 100% action, which is way more fun than dodging. The enemies in Silent Hill are zero threat and you can beat the game easily with melee alone, the only reason to run past everything is because the combat is so dogshit it hurts to play.
If devs were actually competent and understood the games that came before they would correct the mistakes, not blindly repeat them
No it’s not why do you homosexuals try to trick people into playing groomer lgbt shit? Do you know this shit won’t be played unless you hide it fricking homosexual
Is there any survival horror with actual survival?
At the end of the game I had a shitton of ammo so just played it like an action game, unironically was more fun that way.
But this happen in basically every "survival" horror game I've played.
RE2 Remake does it better than the past Resi games, but I wouldn't say it does it well regardless. Still succumbs to a lot of the fundemental problems of RE games.
One of the rare game that actually made me cringe. Why for the love of god have they shoved so many references? In the fake ending there is literally 4 references in 5 seconds. The game feels cheap, it would be fine if it's a fan game, but here it seems almost everything in game is ripped off from something else without much alteration. I won't even go into "maybe it's a dream bro". The worst thing is that they could have explored their original lore because there are good, interesting things inside it. Like the game could have more East germany/Stasi bend which many are not familiar with. I have a feeling that target audience for this game are kids and 20somethings how never picked up a book. Similar audience to Nier automata, but at least it completely does its own thing.
tl;dr Palworld but not fun unless you dream of being postman with shallow pockets in Somalia.
"frick off" isn't an argument. It's just whiny posturing that also deflects from the fact that you implied casuals don't like this game, when it's steam page proves otherwise, not to mention that the game is legit brain-dead. when people complain about "respawning enemies" or "6 item slot" they're not complaining about difficulty, because none of those have anything to do with difficulty, both can be circumvented, since enemies are brain-dead easy to run past, and you can just backtrack. It's an argument of principle against shit, and lazy game design that doesn't result in anything interesting or engaging, but pretends it does, by padding out content with tedium, since it has nothing else to offer.
and since I know you'll be predictably too moronic to figure this out, as most morons on Ganker are.
casuals don't like this game because they bounce off its slightly demanding resource management, but even more than that the casuals on this board who don't even fricking play video games and are only here to kvetch about their political leanings are the bigger problem and you are actively being complicit in their actions by choosing to ignore that
Played it on hardest and dropped it at the third area after the fake ending, it's pretty short and pretty uninspired. I think it just gets a lot of shilling since it was made by transgenders and features transgenders
3 months ago
Anonymous
played it twice, once on the hardest, and finished it both times and found it both fulfilling and inspired
it was not made by transgenders and does not feature transgenders no matter how much astroturfing you try to do
3 months ago
Anonymous
>creator is they/xir >music video features suzie ballsackhunter >main characters are 'lesbians'
uh-huh
>casuals don't like this game because they bounce off its slightly demanding resource management
I like how whenever you make an argument on Ganker, instead of ever actually engaging in that argument, they do this weird self referential thing, that I'd almost mistake for genuine schizophrenia if not for the easier explanation of being genuinely moronic and biased. Where they just say the opposite thing, and pretend as if it's true just because they said it.
I already pointed to evidence that it appeals to normies, the steam reviews, and what the reviews actually say. I could even give further evidence by the fact that normie tubers like Suzi, some moron names Daryll, oh and that "This is the most profound moment in gaming..." moron and whatnot, are infatuated with the game.
Indie games rarely get that large of traction and that overwhelming positive reviews, unless they're high normie tier.
Oh, but its okay, instead of actually disproving any of this wrong, you can just delusionally and baselessly affirm "It not for casual because le inventory management too hard :'( because my feelings tell me so"
yeah. I don't even know why I unironically take this mentally stunted moron infested board seriously.
>casuals don't like this game because they bounce off its slightly demanding resource management
I like how whenever you make an argument on Ganker, instead of ever actually engaging in that argument, they do this weird self referential thing, that I'd almost mistake for genuine schizophrenia if not for the easier explanation of being genuinely moronic and biased. Where they just say the opposite thing, and pretend as if it's true just because they said it.
I already pointed to evidence that it appeals to normies, the steam reviews, and what the reviews actually say. I could even give further evidence by the fact that normie tubers like Suzi, some moron names Daryll, oh and that "This is the most profound moment in gaming..." moron and whatnot, are infatuated with the game.
Indie games rarely get that large of traction and that overwhelming positive reviews, unless they're high normie tier.
Oh, but its okay, instead of actually disproving any of this wrong, you can just delusionally and baselessly affirm "It not for casual because le inventory management too hard :'( because my feelings tell me so"
yeah. I don't even know why I unironically take this mentally stunted moron infested board seriously.
neither of you play videogames because if you did you wouldn't care if it was liked by casuals or only by autists, arguing about what's the playerbase of a singleplayer game is completely pointless
3 months ago
Anonymous
you (or maybe another anon) brought casuals up in the first place because people don't like your precious game
if you don't want counsel for the defense to cross examine your argument, don't introduce it in the first place
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you (or maybe another anon) brought casuals up in the first place because people don't like your precious game
this^ just because I'm arguing against a moronic proposition, doesn't mean I care about the subject of it. I wasn't the one who brought up casuals in the first place to demean and dismiss any criticism I don't like.
what a worthless board. genuinely didn't realize signalis fans were this moronic and insecure. I can't believe some of you have frequently recommended me this game so insistently.
>casuals
nah, it's /misc/ election immigrants. and these have been around for quite a while
yeah calling them immigrants because they refuse to assimilate, shit up everything that doesn't match their deranged worldview and live in a ghetto
it's casuals that like this game. It's probably pretty good if you haven't played the GOATs like RE1 Remake or RE2R
>developers start smearing shit through their games >gamers notice and complain about it in discussions with other gamers >"You're just obsessed with shit, go back to /shit/ and stop making everything shitty" >games still have shit smeared through them
>cry for years that people who you don't like should make their own games >they make their own games >you cry about it even more
stay mad about girls kissing other girls on your screen
it is politically motivated and you can drop the false pretense already
try playing games for once instead of just whinging about ones you will never touch
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it is politically motivated and you can drop the false pretense already >try playing games for once instead of just whinging about ones you will never touch
I wouldn't knowingly buy a troony game but I bought, played, and decided I disliked this well before I had any inkling that that was the case, and I don't really care if its. My criticism of it isn't politically motivated at all.
>/u/ game with cute girls in a setting that relentlessly shits on communism is the same as the current zeitgeist of quasi-communists trying to make everything as ugly as possible
I'm just criticising a bad game, you're one trying to dismiss that criticism as being politically motivated
ok, LSTR-512 is now male. what are your criticisms?
>/u/ game with cute girls in a setting that relentlessly shits on communism is the same as the current zeitgeist of quasi-communists trying to make everything as ugly as possible
I wasn't saying Signalis is this, I was criticizing to the general 'How dare you point out the politicization of games, /misc/tard/ election tourist' attitude >ok, LSTR-512 is now male. what are your criticisms?
It still a bad mishmash of concepts taken from better media and shoved together in a way that ends up being mediocre and tedious
and it's probably still aggressively anime in a way that detracts from the tone
>it will make you cry
I am genuinely astounded that anyone found the drama of the main character remotely engaging.
It's so incredibly lifeless- there's so little the devs do to establish any chemistry or likeability for Elster and Ariane.
They liked to dance and watch movies. Wow. Never seen a character dynamic like that before.
If you want me to be sad when bad things happen to the character or are revealed to have already happened to them I have to actually care about them first.
I don't honestly think any additional time spent establishing character relationships would change your mind if that's the only thing that stuck with you.
Okay well take the opportunity to explain what about it worked for you.
I think it has the same problem as a lot of action movies- you're expected to feel sad because the protagonist's wife died in a tragedy! Don't you see how tortured he is!
Elster is compelled to feel this unbearable longing! How she suffers!
Ariane got bullied and now she has to go to space and leave everything behind!
I don't honestly think any additional time spent establishing character relationships would change your mind if that's the only thing that stuck with you.
For the record, this is why I find it so odd that everyone focuses on the characters so much when they're talking about the game.
There was so little of interest there.
I HATE HATE HATE and despise people that respond to contentions like this. Because not only does it make it abundantly clear that whatever "depth" they see in the characters that made them cry is completely arbitrary and more so presentation, aesthetic and feeling based. But also because it's like such a stark expression of an unapprectiation of how mediums can depict GENUINE and substantial relationships that aren't just artificial props and cardboard representation of what every moron who's never been in a relationship...sees in a relationship.
Silent Hill 2's depiction of two people that love eachother, and therefore hated eachother had far more depth and genuineness to it. Too bad literally everything else about that game is shit, both gameplay and story wise. It could have been the one videogames story to ever get "people" and relationships right otherwise. But I can't ignore the abomination that is Eddie (and to a lesser degree, Angela because I'm supposed to feewl bad for her 🙁 omg)
frick. I hate you all so much. genuinely allow for such a low standard of storytelling and character writing.
just engage with the morons contention and make an actual argument or case that isn't just: "heh, he doesn't see what I SEE, because he didn't cry like I did. I'm going to smugly express that without actually demonstrating any reason why his assertion is wrong".
garbage, is what you all are. *sigh* why am I even wasting my time, people aren't gunna get any less shallow.
Yeah, that's better than I could put it.
And like I said, I don't think a story necessarily needs really good character writing to be interesting, it's just strange that this is what everyone seems to latch onto signalis for when there's so little material.
It comes across like they're just injecting meaning and depth into the story based on its superficial resemblances to their own feelings/struggles.
First off, don't *sigh* do this. It makes it impossible for me to take you seriously. Also what they posted was an opinion, I posted a contention. I don't charge rent for people being ESL but using ill fitting words drags down any point you're making.
Second, you have a multitude of notes and logs establishing Elster and Ariane's connections throughout the game and subtly building on it. Like your (and a lot of other people's favorite) example in SH2, you don't have a bunch of shit dumped on the player right away. The music and dancing bit is payoff for all the other stuff you're picking up along the way, as a final answer to the question of "who is she to you?"; which is great because it still leaves the question open "what was my promise?".
Third, touch grass. I don't "allow" low standards, and even if I somehow magically decided who does and doesn't write in an indie videogame, I would have difficulty grading SIGNALIS overall as anything less than competent.
I don't hate you for it, but I can only describe your line of reasoning as annoying.
Okay well take the opportunity to explain what about it worked for you.
I think it has the same problem as a lot of action movies- you're expected to feel sad because the protagonist's wife died in a tragedy! Don't you see how tortured he is!
Elster is compelled to feel this unbearable longing! How she suffers!
Ariane got bullied and now she has to go to space and leave everything behind!
I don't care.
SIGNALIS's story works well in my mind because it's built on strong questions and draws parallels among them in a relatively small cast. "Who is this I am looking for?" "Where is she?" "Who is she to me?" "Why do I need to find her?" are all half-answered and hinted at as the story progresses. Sometimes you get answers without questions which are equally interesting in puzzling together what has transpired.
anyone complaining about respawning enemies is suffering from genuine moronation
either that or they never played it and just heard about it and decided it is bad, which is also genuine mental moronation anyway
>enemies respawn with much lower health >enemies are on the floor until you go near so they have almost no chance to bother you >the game is already way too stale when backtracking, potentially respawning enemies is the only thing that can add tension >the game has a frickton of flares for you to burn bodies >combined with just being able to WASD through the anemic ass shallow and pathetic enemies
respawning enemies is literally the only dynamism the enemies offer and one of their only ways to add more tension. Its literally the only good element in the most lackuster part of the game.
There is an element of strategy later in the game on which enemies you may choose to burn to make backtracking easier; but overall only rooms with huge enemy density are frustrating to have revivals.
I think I only ended up having trouble in Nowhere because you have some rooms that are just fricking orgies in tight rooms, and that's only because I mismanaged my ammo and was down to only grenades.
>he doesn't embrace the actual RE gameplay of just running past every single enemy
seriously, it's not like they can shoot you (okay MYNAHs can but they are very few and between and you can dodge it anyway)
the fact that the enemies respawn is the game telling you to blitz past them. I can understand not liking that type gameplay, but the guns are also pretty shit. Either way you will end up running pass them.
doing that all the time can get boring, enemies in this game also take like zero strategy to run past
signalis would be genuinely much better if it was a more oppressive in enemies
it's uncanny because the man has smiled for the first time in his life
also reminder Storches are violent psychos who have to be restrained because they keep torturing people to death for lols
I'm kinda sad the vinyl OST doesn't use this cover because the sorta worn impression of a disc already in is great. People love Cigarette wife, but I think the uncut version of Eulenlied is best.
Train ride, warm light and 3000 cycles are great too.
It's mediocre, people just loved it because they were starved for a traditional survivor horror game
(and some people loved it because it's 2deep4me indiebait)
That's distant thread history at this point and it was not as entertaining as you would think. The idiot kept trying to argue that communists did not censor art and I dumped walls worth of historical evidence on him that they in fact did, censor art and only state approved artists were at all allowed to produce art without being persecuted. This, apparently, broke his fricking mind and he spent the next months ruthlessly stalking every Signalis thread to shit on it.
That was one of the most moronic arguments I got involved in on Ganker and that says something.
[...] >IIRC he tried to infer that communism didn't censor or suppress art
Amazing.
homosexual sovieticus, man. It's a religious devotion to them. I should re-read gulag archipelago.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't put much stock in Solzhenytsin, he is basically a fiction writer. There's more reliable and accurate historical sources that accurately criticize the soviets and their failures of political and economic structure.
It doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence in their game design if even they realized it was so bad they had to backtrack on it
But I don't really want to shit on them for having such a limited inventory AND shit on them for changing it, so I'll just say it's cool they made it toggleable and gave people options
It wasn't bad at all, it's just that a lot of people that lacked basic problem solving skills complained, so they included it as an option.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It wasn't bad at all, it's just that a lot of people that lacked basic problem solving skills complained, so they included it as an option.
there's no problem solving or even remotely close to puzzle like thinking involving inventory management. It's objectively just tedium and backtracking. Some people just have absolutely low standards and will let anything go because they're genuinely unthinking morons that latch onto the most surface level of games so desperately that you'd think they have no substance themselves.
regardless. your statement comes across moreso as insecure and defensive, than actual...statement about anything. please enlighten and do tell, how taking items back and from the inventory box, due to an arbitrary limitation of how much inventory can be carried. is "problem solving". Is it because you need to make a choice? Then every single game requires problem solving, but that would be a stupid thing to say, because the term would become meaningless so as to communicate nothing at that point.
Is it because you need to use flares, and or bullets and healing "effectively" so as to not carry them, so you can carry more puzzle items? That wouldn't change the inherent tedium that would still be present, you will be asked to carry more than 6 items regardless.
I'm curious. But I KNOW you have no answer, so I'm trying to give you something to work with.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Good job making my case for me, now you can vacate the premises.
3 months ago
Anonymous
ah the old "I'll make no argument but smugly affirm that because I think you're wrong and have exclaimed so, then you must be" not realizing how that blatantly expresses an aversion to actual critical thinking, self awareness or self determined thought and ultimately expresses nothing other than the shallow and circular fact that one believes themselves to be right so they must be, further not realizing how worthless of a conclusion is, but I'm not going to feed you the answer. If you can't figure that for yourself, then your initial assertion was worthless in the first place, and existed as nothing else but to validate oneself and hide from insecurity by ego stroking and deflecting reality.
you have nothing for this. don't bother replying. you've been dealt with.
IIRC he tried to infer that communism didn't censor or suppress art. It was a year or so back at this point. It was pretty moronic fricking gommie cope.
>That's distant thread history at this point and it was not as entertaining as you would think.
Idiocy like that is, in itself, entertaining, and watching it get destroyed is always hilarious
But I will just be happy with the version of it in my head, thank you for explaining
IIRC he tried to infer that communism didn't censor or suppress art. It was a year or so back at this point. It was pretty moronic fricking gommie cope.
That's distant thread history at this point and it was not as entertaining as you would think. The idiot kept trying to argue that communists did not censor art and I dumped walls worth of historical evidence on him that they in fact did, censor art and only state approved artists were at all allowed to produce art without being persecuted. This, apparently, broke his fricking mind and he spent the next months ruthlessly stalking every Signalis thread to shit on it.
>IIRC he tried to infer that communism didn't censor or suppress art
Amazing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...] >That's distant thread history at this point and it was not as entertaining as you would think.
Idiocy like that is, in itself, entertaining, and watching it get destroyed is always hilarious
But I will just be happy with the version of it in my head, thank you for explaining
There's reason to believe he's one of the guy either posting the shitpost 'BETTER THAN SH :^)' threads or just the 'troony shit' constant replies out of sheer eternal butthurt.
>letting the fandom around the game stopping you from enjoying the game
brother, what the frick are you doing, I despise the souls """community""" and all the bootlicks I still love the souls games
I quit in the nowhere place when inventory management got absolutely fricking moronic. Don't have 10 different puzzle items when you have like 6 inventory slots, i'm not doing this fricking back and forth bullshit
Inventory limit increased to 10, I think, they also made the eye and flashlight not take up an inventory slot. Those features are toggleable. I had no issues even in Nowhere because the game establishes pretty early that puzzles are structured in such a way as to make sure you utilize the item box frequently.
It doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence in their game design if even they realized it was so bad they had to backtrack on it
But I don't really want to shit on them for having such a limited inventory AND shit on them for changing it, so I'll just say it's cool they made it toggleable and gave people options
Honestly my only problem was the eye/flashlight taking up slots, because your radio module didn't making it feel inconsistent.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, the "5 items no matter how small" thing was handled very badly
I guess if I play it again I'll finish my playthrough with the toggles off (I'm autistic like that) but even just the flashlight thing sounds like it fixes the game significantly
So was everything going to Hell already and the Secret Ending is LSTR finding a way to get through it, or is everything going to Hell BECAUSE LSTR is trying to get the Secret Ending?
Everything is going to hell because Ariane is trying to use the equivalent of the Heart of Lorkhan to make her dream override reality so that she could use the Heart of Lorkhan to make her dream override reality so that she could use the Heart of Lorkhan, e.t.c..She needs Elster to Monkey Typewriter her way into the correct solution over the course of an unknown amount of times of time loops to make it possible. It's a lengthy mess of groundhog day timeloops and folded space and a lone administrator with a fountain pen that he likes very much.
Kind of, we don't know why Ariane's consciousness persisted past the death of her physical body and endured within the red realm. All we know is that she was a really powerful psychic and she spent a lot of time even past her death feeling like she's still dying of radiation poisoning, which is why you see so many shadows on the wall at S-23 and Rotfront. A leaked text from the French (?) version of the game hints that Ariane might have spent over seven hundred years in that state.
Kind of, we don't know why Ariane's consciousness persisted past the death of her physical body and endured within the red realm. All we know is that she was a really powerful psychic and she spent a lot of time even past her death feeling like she's still dying of radiation poisoning, which is why you see so many shadows on the wall at S-23 and Rotfront. A leaked text from the French (?) version of the game hints that Ariane might have spent over seven hundred years in that state.
I was under the impression she was being kept alive by the artifact.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's possible. The tesseract is incredibly important to whatever she's doing. It's there on the title screen and there in the hidden ending and its visible form is the thematic number repeated throughout the game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well yeah that, and doesn't she not want to be alive to begin with?
Isn't that the point of the promise?
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's two theories. Either the promise is not what we think it is, or it is, but Elster cannot fulfill it anyway because Ariane had been dead for a long time now, so Elster is now being used for something else entirely, such as Ariane's apotheosis. Does this look like someone that's begging to die?
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't that from one of the backstory shots? Ariane looks markedly different when she addresses LSTR directly or during her psychic projection over lSTR's deactivated body.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's a flash you get at Rotfront. >lost another tooth today
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it's definitely a fragment from her past, when she was still a physical person then, instead of a dreamer within a dream.
reminder
It was the correct move, that way Signalis cannot be used as a political soapbox by moronic pseuds.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>that way Signalis cannot be used as a political soapbox
fanbase is crawling with homosexuals and trannies that latched onto this garbage purely based on the "lesbo sex" shit so it clearly didn't work
3 months ago
Anonymous
I would say it clearly did work given that despite racism, sexism, homophobia, tobacco and alcohol being gone, a communist setting is still depicted as a horrible dystopia where your children will be disappeared by the state for having the wrong opinions and every district of every city has an assigned officer whose job is to use her psychic powers to detect wrongthink. I don't give a shit what emotional teens do in their spare time on X and neither should you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The only reason the promise would continue to exist is if she were still longing to die- since the signals coming from her are a result of her mental state.
Why would the promise be anything else than what it obviously is?
3 months ago
Anonymous
A malfunctioning robot going through the motions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But none of the Elster units were malfunctioning before they received these signals?
3 months ago
Anonymous
They were and it is an important plot point you had overlooked, because all LSTR units have been scanned of a previously salvaged different LSTR unit instead of the original neural pattern stored within the archive, like it goes for every other replika presumably, because the oriignal neural pattern of the LSTR unit had been lost during the war.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>because all LSTR units have been scanned of a previously salvaged different LSTR unit instead of the original neural pattern stored within the archiv
Which existed before Ariane went on the expedition and functioned fine until they started receiving signals from that expedition.
Also LSTR is really just another model of Falke, which also functioned fine before this incident.
3 months ago
Anonymous
LSTR being a copy of a copy of a copy instead of just a copy of a copy like every other replika is a pretty important distinction, I would say and that wasn't just put into the game and shoved in front of your face as a red herring. All replika units eventually destabilize and end up decommissioned, it is pretty much a fact of life and every replika service manual communicates it as something that is only a matter of time. >Also LSTR is really just another model of Falke
Where did you get that from?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Where did you get that from?
Sameface, reacts in a similar way to the elster units, receives the same memories, etc. >being a copy of a copy of a copy instead of just a copy of a copy like every other replika is a pretty important distinction
You're right that this is important, it's important because it makes her similarity to Falke a reveal rather than just outright telling you they're the same. But this doesn't remotely relate to Ariane except in explaining why they react the same way to the signals.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think that's the case at all with Falke and has more to do with the fact that she's a powerful bioresonant. My understanding is that all S-23 dwellers received a serious dose of Ariane's eldritch cancer further amplified by the LSTR from the prologue that was used to broadcast it as another medium. It's possible that gestalts were getting Ariane's memorise and Replika were getting LSTR's memories, but we also do not know which LSTR that is, it might have been a fresh one, or it might have been one that had finished one of the loops and just sat down to look at nothing, which she saw as a computer screen.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, I'm pretty sure other units are all just getting some kind of noise that drives them insane, there's no sign that the other units are receiving anything resembling Ariane or Elster's memories. Adler talks about persistent feelings of deja vu, nothing about Ariane or Elster. He even says- the only thing he understands is that when elster goes through the gate things get a little bit worse each time.
I feel like I'm arguing with your headcanon right now 'might have' 'we don't know' 'it's possible.'
Okay, but what's in the actual game?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I highly doubt that Falke getting Elster's memories is evidence of Falke and Elster being somehow related or connected when Falke describes being poisoned by "the eye" beyond the gate which resulted in her receiving the memories. Whatever it was that had caused her to receive Elster's memories had been done to her intentionally and not as a consequence of some sort of a hidden connection.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Whatever it was that had caused her to receive Elster's memories had been done to her intentionally and not as a consequence of some sort of a hidden connection.
I mean the other thing is that Elster's memories aren't even much of a factor here, most of the signals Elster gets are entirely from the time she spent with Ariane, sometimes Ariane's unique memories specifically (Elster receives Ariane's memory of being in the classroom, on the train).
The original elster unit is long dead. If any of elster's original memories were being transmitted I would have expected more of them to be from her unique background, either impressions from the war or otherwise.
3 months ago
Anonymous
We do get the series of Elster's gestalt's, Lilith Itou, memories during the fakeout ending rapidly flashing across the screen. And LSTR coming to S-23 to look for Alina Seo, who was Lilith's comrade on Vineta, already showing that she malfunctions since the first moments of the game. The prologue LSTR is also different as she is looking for Ariane. That is from what I intuit the prologue LSTR being used in the broadcast. She couldn't be the original 512 because that one died when the ship's reactor shielding failed and both her and Ariane's bodies at the time should be drifting in a lifeless hulk of a ship somewhere around the Oort Cloud. But it also cannot be a fresh arrival to S-23, because that one is looking for Alina Seo. She sits down and continuously receives an encoded transmission from somewhere until her polyethelene shell peels away, which would be a considerable amount of time in an inhospitable environment.
I-Is that... Is that a hexagon??? AWWWGGHHHHH THE RULE OF SIX???? AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M DESTABILIZING UUUOOOGGHHJ SAVE ME FLKR- NO STOP MUNCHING CARPET YOU USELESS FRICKING DYKE
WWAAAGGHHHHHHH NOOOO I'M GOING TO ARIANE
If you can't see beyond the veil of reality, don't bother playing this.
A minimum requirement to get started on SIGNALIS is to have 150 IQ plus.
The game takes too much from literary works, art, music, religion and history, that if you don't have the knowledge of what they are, their meaning and story behind them, you will struggle to understand a lot of the concept SIGNALIS presents.
TLDR: I wouldn't recommend SIGNALIS to the average Gankertard normalgay
It's good, but the heavyhanded references are embarrassing. I couldn't take the story seriously at all, but aesthetically it was pretty good. Gameplay was alright.
This and Fear and hunger remind me that I dont actually like video games anymore
Games that everyone I know praises and even peopel online lieks but I cant even be arsed to check the main menu of.
Back to fgs and league of legends.
To be fair, both this and Fear and Hunger have the same issue of "Borderline casualgays hear about neat game from X e-ecleb and obsess over it like it's the harbinger of indie video game renaissance," because they actually don't play that many new games and only ever get exposed to shit thanks to their online "friends" and some superficial element that makes their dick tingle (i.e. anime girls).
And a good chunk of Ganker is the same way, since this place gets an increasing number of those "borderline casualgays" immigrating here each day. They don't branch out to look for hidden gems. They don't explore other genres that might interest them. They just gravitate towards weebshit and whatever Markipediegold or Jerma or whoever is playing this week. And then they make it their identity for months at a time.
Fear and Hunger is cool in concept and unbearable to play in practice without savescum or grinding to know every nook and cranny.
Which really isn't fun.
You are permitted to be incorrect. It'd be delusional copium if it was a poorly substantiated fan theory instead of an ending implemented within the game. I do agree about the memory and leave. And killing Alina doesn't really solve anything either.
the promise that was shared between elster and ariane is, on the surface at least, to kill ariane. the promise ending shows the fulfillment of that promise. i do not see the lily ending as a fulfillment of that promise, instead it is just a dream within a dream, as seen by the big red eye above, where elster is trapped in a dance in the ruins of the penrose with ariane for eternity, an endless dance in a cherished memory, yet it is nothing but that, a nostalgic dream for a time long lost. is elster happy? perhaps, but at the cost of everything else, perhaps even of ariane, who gazes at the dream from beyond. a dance that never ends, never moving forwards nor back. just a singular moment now frozen in time. and yet we never get to see ariane's face in this ending.
so yes, i do think the lily ending is copium and thus i consider the promise ending to be the best ending.
You're making the mistake of choosing to view the Promise ending with the context of the game and its events and not doing the same thing for Artifact.
well i am trying anon, but i'm more or less seeing the promise ending as a better ending than lily as its more narratively fulfilling at least to elster's journey despite the implication that it simply leads back to the loop (but then again, it could be argued that it's more of a thematic mirroring of the memory ending). i see the lily ending as somewhat 'worse' despite it breaking the cycle implied in the other three endings (by creating a different one entirely, just her and her love in that perpetual moment). elster collects three pieces, of love, of eternity, and of sacrifice, and opens that safe containing that memory. to achieve that ending requires breaking the fourth wall of the game itself, to realize its unreality. lily simply ends up in another unreality, and personally, that unreality feels more like an escape than an attempt to face truth, to hold on to that cherished love for eternity, sacrificing everything in her path for that fleeting shard of the past. it is happy, but it feels empty, broken even. and there is even that phrase on that ending, about men seeking of death but without purchase
tl;dr: i don't really think the lily ending is as hopeful as people make it out to be
hate to break it to you anon, but elster doesn't kill ariane in the promise ending. it's alina who eventually turned into a projection of ariane from beyond
there is no good ending
i don't think its alina, but yeah there is really no explicit ending, which makes all the theorizing fun
hate to break it to you anon, but elster doesn't kill ariane in the promise ending. it's alina who eventually turned into a projection of ariane from beyond
Elster was never in the 512
In fact, no LSTR unit was ever in a Penrose vessel
Because it doesn't make any sense
Why would you put a specialized and rare replika type on a shitty cheap ship that is used in a suicidal, statistically-impossible mission?
It simply makes no sense. Obviously there was another gestalt in there with Ariane. A gestalt she fell in love with, who she spent her final moments with, whose memories were broadcasted through space via bioresonance.
These are the memories that were implanted in the LSTR we play as, via the same mechanism utilized to create replikas. And because of this, she chases someone she never actually met.
This means the "canon" ending is the Memory ending. Even if Elster were to reach the 512, Ariene doesn't recognize her because she genuinely has no idea who she is. And Elster, either out of despair or realization, curls up and dies.
And then it happens again. And again. And again. And everytime it happens reality becomes more and more corrupted because this whole ordeal breaks every single known law of the universe. Until Ariene finally breaks and accepts Elster, simply because she's her only hope of ending her suffering. And this finally closes the loop. >but what about the flashbacks? The documents?
That's the thing, they never existed. The real memories would tear down Elster's delusions, so she made up her own. >what about the Artifact ending?
The Artifact ending is Elster doubling down and destroying reality even more. To get it, you actively have to break the fourth wall because of all the steps necessary to achieve this ending.
And in the end, Elster gets what she wants. But at what cost?
That's not sexism though. Sexism is discrimination over gender; the Replikas are barely human adjacent and the only man on the entire cast (that isn't referred to in a log or note) doesn't get treated largely differently than any other. There's not even implied sexism in his position; the boss is a woman and his role is even more as a special advisor rather than even a second-in-command. Similarly the Replikas are divided by tasks in a hyper-utilitarian an aesthetic society; other than Falke and Adler (the former being in command and the latter being her advisor and assistant, both roles that benefit from having private chambers) they all have communal dorms with nearly identical amenities, deviating only where specific items or services are better suited to keeping them useful. So you can't claim racial conflict either; at the most there's workplace politics and friction.
>Replikas break their protocols
Is this a surprise?
That's not sexism though. Sexism is discrimination over gender; the Replikas are barely human adjacent and the only man on the entire cast (that isn't referred to in a log or note) doesn't get treated largely differently than any other. There's not even implied sexism in his position; the boss is a woman and his role is even more as a special advisor rather than even a second-in-command. Similarly the Replikas are divided by tasks in a hyper-utilitarian an aesthetic society; other than Falke and Adler (the former being in command and the latter being her advisor and assistant, both roles that benefit from having private chambers) they all have communal dorms with nearly identical amenities, deviating only where specific items or services are better suited to keeping them useful. So you can't claim racial conflict either; at the most there's workplace politics and friction.
He's not directly ostracised, but then again when you turn everyone around him into zombie people that kinda becomes less of a problem and the bigger issue is "can they act human at all or are they all just programmed to behave in this way, including the protag and her lover".
It's like watching robots try to find a human thing, love, even though they clearly don't quite understand it. It's all confusing to them. They manifest things trying to emulate it, only for the audience to realise "they don't know how humans usually find love". So you get this visceral madness and error that is rampant in the setting. The "humans" in it never truly feel human. You empathise and sympathise with the protag a bit, but there's some dissonance there. Knowing what they are, do you truly understand these things that look like humans but are clearly so dis-happened by programming (likely for the sake of mere ideology initially but potentially for something "darker")?
To me the theme is more a struggle between complete trans-humanistic disembodiment and grounding yourself in a human sense, to seek a human way of life and understand what it means to be human and carry it out.
This is why the yuri is really just bait for something far more twisted. It becomes an aspect of a struggle to find ground as human beings and not monsters. It's caught in that.
Reminds me kinda of Bladerunner 2049 and what it did a bit with K.
Great game, fanbase ruined it for most people because of OMG LESBIANS LGBT REPRESENTATION SO CUTE I'M ALSO MENTALLY ILL XDDD even though it's a fricking robot.
That's what I fear, I played Nier Automata thinking the game was good and all I got was a shitty open world game -I hate open worlds- with the most entry level existentialism ever. I felt I was playing a rick and morty game.
Why dont you frick off to a silent hill thread instead? have a nice day samegayging trash.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry I don't have the desire to cut my penis my off like you do
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry I don't think that Signalis is better than the series it was obviously inspired by.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>moron thinks silent hill is the main inspiration
Refer to
If you can't see beyond the veil of reality, don't bother playing this.
A minimum requirement to get started on SIGNALIS is to have 150 IQ plus.
The game takes too much from literary works, art, music, religion and history, that if you don't have the knowledge of what they are, their meaning and story behind them, you will struggle to understand a lot of the concept SIGNALIS presents.
TLDR: I wouldn't recommend SIGNALIS to the average Gankertard normalgay
, subhuman
3 months ago
Anonymous
And yet 99% of the game is an unoriginal and poorly realized attempt to be Silent Hill+Resident Evil
3 months ago
Anonymous
>LGBT game >its fanbase is fragile
many such cases
3 months ago
Anonymous
>say something stupid >multiple people disagree >"It must be one person SAMEgayGING"
I gotta admit, it has way more depth than SH. But I still feel like SH has this immediate horror that it does a bit better. Plus it's in 3d, not 2.5d.
If silent hill 3 type monsters and setting was given better treatment with an actual good plot and actual good dialogue, it would hit harder than Sig. SH2 does though already.
The game is good but it's not scary and that counts a lot if you're making a
survival horror game. You finish the game with more ammo than Rambo.
The aesthetic carries the game.
I know there's some jungian ideias when they decided to throw the word synchronicity in your face and I was thinking about learning more about the lore and the ideas used in the game. But I think that's a waste of time.
I wonder what compels someone who sees discussion to just repeat the same shitpost, over and over again. Is it butthurt about the game in specific? An autistic hatred of discussion? Or perhaps it's just fricking Ganker.
Being btfo'd in an argument about commies censoring art. It's the same kind of an autist that starts to spam gore when he loses an argument, plenty of creatures like that on any board.
>wants to be stuck in the loop >doesn't want to move on >thinks putting things off forever works >thinks elevators are a solution
Not fooling anyone Adler
I literally played and beat it for the first time ever last weekend. Good timing.
Great game.
Truly some candy for us oldgay RE and SH gays. I also love how unapologetic they're about their influences and inspirations. Lots of GitS, Blame, and even Bakemonogatri in the mix.
It gets boring really fast
Lots of world building which have frick all to do with the game
Hiding the true ending behind a contrived goose chase which the game gives no hint about (using specific radio frequency on a specific random room on a specific random cell. btw it was bugged half of the time on release and if didn't work you had to restart the game)
They had a gem here but broke it into pieces and fused with donkey dung. NEVER let trannies and women gamers taint your gaming while in development
Thought it was going to be just a lazy ripoff of SH too. Nonono, this shit was fricking good and not really that similar to SH at all. It's more like Blame! or something. It's just visceral.
First off, from what I have seen common, troonys WILL latch to anything niche that includes gays, horrid atmosphere, hints of " life goals" to appertain themselves to. From that they'll make it their whole personality and shill it to death.
Why would trannies shill an anti-transhumanism message?
The Replika units are essentially a prettied up version of Stalkers from Half Life with some cybernetics and maybe slightly more liberty.
It's like they're sex cult sacrifices to whatever this abomination of a state is doing cult wise. You realise they're all female for some weird fricked up purpose and it's not just mere yuri.
But of course some morons ignore that and just focus on it being mere fanservice. No, they would never use this obvious red herring to introduce something far more sinister right?
It's not like theirs some form of hive-state oppressive demiurge that indulges in tormenting these bondage looking dolls for it's own sick and twisted reasons either.
No the yuri is just there for gays to buy it! It's got nothing to do with ideas like "holy mother" or stuff like that.
Reminder that Kurdistan is a real place and uses real forced female soldier slaves, just like Signalis.
It's not as mere "fanservice yuri" as you'd think. There's real precedent out there. Real shit.
I disagree, they just get away with more shit because they're trans and therefore not mindlessly screeched at about the exploitative themes in it.
It sucks how you now have to be trans to have a license to make dirty exploitative shit. Assuming they are trans.
Nah it's more like men have given up making striking exploitative grindhousey shit because they're petrified of negative responses from women now.
It sucks.
The lesbianism is part of the horror since it's, initially, an emotionaly ostracized military officer sexually exploiting her enslaved subordinate, and then progresses into a mutually damaging samsara where they drag themselves and everyone around them into an eternal cycle of suffering that only deepens the more they try to love.
But it's literally beyond GitS transhumanism. Some of the girls in the games are barely human at all and for a dark purpose. The sex is most likely intentional for dark ritualistic purposes, psuedo-satanic purposes (it's not really satanism, but it sure feels like Diablo's lower levels at times with the vibe).
I'm guessing there are kids and lgbt types today that didn't know the satanic-gay sex theme was "rather relevant" here.
Because what better way to please the dark demiurge than through ritualistic blood sacrifices of girls, mind fricked and programmed into fricking each other for evil reasons. Reasons we all never truly understand to degree, though it's definitely heavily implied.
I almost forgot that there used to be that aspect of satanic rituals in the past, given the modern "rainbows and hugs" mentality modern lgbt types have now. Our system has spent so much time lying and pretending that was never a thing that we've almost indoctrinated even the lgbt types into believing this.
I miss that aspect of taboo. This game does it well. Very well.
You must be moronic if you think you can trick me with that absurd nonsense. Absolutely fricking ridiculous. Your mouth would be better suited on your own dick, rather than spewing garbage at me. I'll say it again, just because you don't like it - Satan is a b***h.
Being a fan of HEALTH and liking the game's look made me interested in this but I've looked at a few vids and god does the game really look like it has a lot of those cringe indie game content walls relating to weird as frick puzzles and things that you will miss 9.99/10 times out of ten without a guide.
That and media like this tends to have horribly written endings and character arcs where everyone dies just because "muh morality play", its the thing I hate in stories the most.
It's more like a triple-A indie game, but it's an actual indie developer so it has some quirks here and there. I played it before some quality of life patches were introduced, so it should be even more smooth sailing from here on.
I think HEALTH is a late addition to this game and the song isn't even included in the actual game. The music is a mix of its own thing and a nice selection of recognizeable (royalty-free) melancholic classical music.
Just go into this while ignoring the fan base. They're irrelevant to the actual experience, save for a few laughs.
I did play it a few months ago. I lost interest after reaching Rotfront. I still have it on my desktop, so I'll probably finish it someday. How much is there left?
You know what I hate a lot about the game? The fact Elster can infinitely try to keep her promise and save Ariane.
There's no tension, no matter how many times you frick up and die, you'll just respawn, it's a somewhat meta aspect of it that's absolute bullshit, and while it's supposed to show how much Elster loves Ariane and how strong she is, there is nothing more strong to me than having one opportunity and fricking it up than being able to redo over and over without any challenge or changes. >t. OP of prevous thread
Also, #9 for January 2023 vidya ratings? Frick sake Ganker.
For the people who wished SIGNALIS was better, now you know why:
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/664058237/#q664065639
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/664058237/#664068627
I will not.
DYKE game.
>not liking /u/
homosexuals
Yeah but it's an interesting spin on why it exists here. Like it's literally explained in the game. You kinda feel bad for Adler who has no hope because of how fricked up these "humans" are now.
>lesbians
Nope
They're not lesbians they are just good friends.
but i have beaten it anon and loved it what more do you want from me
>lesbians
hell yeah
forever thankful that the culture war didn't mindrape me out of being able to enjoy good games.
the irony kek, your troony indie game is dogshit, buy an ad
Buy an ad for my dick in yo mudda homieaaaa
totally and irreversibly mindbroken
projecting
why is it dogshit?
Don't bother. Signalis threads have a dedicated schizo. He'll continue samegayging throughout this thread.
go leave. the toilet bowl you belong to awaits you
>doesnt like to see feminine, biologically female women kissing
astroturfing discord troony kys
>the buzzword buzzword, your buzzword indie game is buzzword, buzzword
thanks for proving his point schizoBlack person LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I liked it a lot, great blend of RE and SH. Problem is, the endings kind of suck, to unlock them is an obnoxious way to do it (especially if you're any sort of competent at those kinds of games), and there's nothing more to do after you beat the game.
I found the blend of RE and SH to be far too haphazard, like they ripped stuff from them without concern for how they'd fit together
I did, it was good.
>like yuri
>like robot girls
>don't like survival horror (personal opinion)
Filtered.
Been a while since I played but you should be able to tweak the difficulty to your liking, and give yourself unlimited inventory space, so there's less "survival" elements to worry about.
It's great.
That last thread was so shit it had like 6 mini threads going on inside it.
ADLR Did nothing wrong
I recently got the promise ending, and now going for the memory
I feel like promise is easy to get if you play optimally. There are so many more healing items than ammo is it’s easier to just run around the facility and say “frick damage”.
I thought it was alright
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/666463331/#q666491741
I literally just made a thread and it got to bump limit.
just don't know how my signalis bait thread didn't work, but this one suddenly did. I guess Suzi bait is just too strong.
I’m sorry, but this is THE MOST moronic puzzle I’ve ever had the misfortune of wasting my time with. I get that it’s a niche indie game with God-tier aesthetics/sound but jesus frick this game feels like a chore to play without following a guide.
>tons of backtracking
>archaic save points when you should be able to save whenever
>no real enemy variety, just a bunch of shambling corpses with the occasional jump scare
>only 7 hours
Nah, that title belongs to the FRICKING WATER PUMP.
Water pump puzzles are an survival horror classic.
I'm so fricking tired of these threads. I don't even want to talk about this fricking game anymore.
>filtered by trial and error
Do you not understand how locks work anon
Except I wasn’t filtered I played an hour past that point. When a game only gives you one option to get through an obstacle like this it’s just bad design. It would’ve been more interesting if they had you lockpick the door, create an alternative route swarmed by enemies, or a solution in the form of another key behind a boss.
..anon, that -is- a lockpick. You're literally moving the pins to rotate the tumbler. You can see the alignment constantly and see how correct your adjustments are. Once the pins are aligned with the shear line the door opens. That is how lockpicking and keys work.
not him, but i know how locks work but the graphics made no sense.
multiple times it looked like the cylinders were aligned and it didn't work
Gonna add some info
The lock pick is ALWAYS RAMDOM as of 1.2 and doesn’t have a good explanation. I gave it a good 10 minutes, looked it up, still had no idea what to do before finally bruteforcing it and getting it 25 minutes later.
The water puzzle is ALWAYS the same and is so poorly designed the entire procedure for it was rewritten in 1.2. It actually became even more confusing to do too if you compare the notes.
These are the puzzles that do not require key items taking up inventory space, like a keycard taking up the same size as a gun, and also sometimes needing 6 items to progress.
The puzzles are fricking shit don’t act otherwise.
Maybe it was just growing up on old games that didn't explain shit, but seeing I could press buttons and it would adjust the screen gave me enough feedback to see what I had to do.
sounds like a lot of low iq copium to me bros
I had not a single issue with any of the puzzles besides Pareidolia that I couldn't solve because my screen gamma was too low, so I just bruteforced it. Acquire intelligence.
I for the life of me couldn’t see the letters. I thought that’s what the puzzle was trying to get me to do. Maybe I needed to stare at it longer
>learned german (non-native speaker)
>instantly knew to enter Eule
perhaps this puzzle was made for our english Genossen
The only puzzle I struggled with was the radio antenna one because I thought I was supposed to find an item for it and I kept progressing and finding new things until I realized there wasn't anything left and I went around looking for something I'd missed that didn't exist.
I did this puzzle in like 5 mins, it's unironically an IQ problem on your part.
>I’m sorry, but this is THE MOST moronic puzzle I’ve ever had the misfortune of wasting my time with.
This is quite literally the easiest puzzle in the game along with the water pump. The actual annoying puzzle is figuring out this nonsense.
I had it figured out at the start except I never examined the mural on the ground floor so I thought I'd done something wrong. Spent fricking ages overanalyzing the notes and doing different combinations until I went and explored the whole area again. That was some bullshit.
genuine low iq issue
The only potentially confusing part is the astrolab thing because some of the markings can make it ambiguous
anon you can literally solve this easily by paying attention
the one that stumped me was the solar system map because i thought the puzzle piece is missing one ring and it didn't really connect at first
frick you, first of all it was tedious. Find the cards then you have to use the notes to piece together her gay ass dream diary, then go to the wall and put the moons in order, frick that bullshit. I know for a fact you hated doing it dont lie. Doesn't help that level is the most tight with no open areas.
zoom zoom
While the rest of the puzzles are completely fine (and some probably watered down due to brainlets such as yours truly), the lockpick was a grind. I literally just put in random stuff until it finally clicked and I shrugged and carried on with the game.
Lockpick had the issue of the display being a little hard to discern in regards as to whether you have truly lined the tumblers up or not, but it really shouldn't take anyone more than a handful of minutes of fiddling with the controls before they understand what is it that they need to do.
I consider figuring out every puzzle in this game on my own to be one of my greatest gaming achievements.
rose-engine if they weren't fricking around
I am going to vomit, if you made this, have a nice day.
I don't care if you're joking.
i did
it was
I like the art direction, the UI and UX. They should create a Window Manager for GNU Linux with it. I would support that endeavour.
Nope I don’t play gay troony games
kino.
nah, i'm good.
All my reviews
the game is good but i say it's bad to fit in
i'll replay sometime this year for the secret ending
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Voice_Quills/stats/1262350/achievements/
?si=s842H086_mibPRgz
>main fan VA for the game is a troony
>officially commented on by devs and shills the game
>did not even finish it until TODAY
lol
I hope an actual transexual rapes you. This way you'll go fully off the edge and hopefully do something that makes us suffer you no longer.
Can't. Working through backlog.
>Earthbound fan excited to play for the first time
I was going to ask why troony/tumblr art always makes women so masculine looking, but then I realized what a stupid question that was. So I'm restating it as an observation.
This may surprise you, but a lot of lesbians really like masculine women. Not Ganker tomboy masculine women, but women with buzzcuts and dress like your 50 year old dad while he's tuning his car in the summer. I'm not sure why.
I've heard otherwise from IRL lesbians, that's kinda a myth. Bisexuals are of course into that because they look like dudes and they're also into dudes.
Trans "women" arent lesbians
I think this game is talking about something a little more than human and kinda exploiting the lesbian shit as a "dehumanised" thing. It's sorta asking harsh questions about lgbt I think. It's treating it more than just a cult in the game, it's more like program to emulate human sexual impulses. But it also has this pure exploitative aspect that makes it clearly "a bit evil". It's so misshapen from even today's "abominations" that it makes those "abominations" look human at least. But it's also asking questions of "where is this really leading and is this really worth it?". It feels jaded and I guess self critical.
A state of "lividity" is very apparent. Being dead and dead inside.
false
lesbian women like other lesbian women who are feminine, no lesbian likes the butch hairy type unless they're also one or brainwashed by woke agenda
>no lesbian likes the butch hairy type
Well I wouldn't say that. I know the lesbians at my sports club are butch... although the butch ones were sometimes not lesbian at all, just butch.
And I'm not talking tomboy, I mean butch as frick as in "is that a dude or a girl" butch.
Turns out not all of those types are transgender nor gay.
Bulldyke is a stereotype for a reason
Lesbians use plastic penises to have sex none of them are actually attracted to women
is not about the penis but what is attached too, try talking to lesbians instead of making shit up, moron
They're attracted to penises but most of them were raped when they were children which explains all the hypocrisies with lesbians.
Again no lesbian is attracted to women they just have a trauma with men
>main fan VA
Is HE in though?
>troonyshit
>yurishit
Everytime
20 years of terrible silent hill games and this is what a moronic transbian shits out after playing with his dick to the CGs. I hate this world
I hate to break it to you guys but lefty gays create media. I wish more developers were chuds but they're gays right wingers are too busy whining all day to create art. Its not hard just create a boomer shooter or something yet they wont.
>they
Go home Johnny HEALTH, you're drunk
Just finished it a couple of days ago, it was fine
Felt a bit too pretentious and cryptic just for the sake of it
The start was strong and the atmosphere at the beginning is superb but by the time you get to the meat dimension it gets kinda boring and repetitive, especially since the puzzles devolve into "find 6 of x to open the door to the next section"
I'm 5 hours in and I still dont understand the health system.
already did
That fakeout ending is the cheapest shit. It sends you back to the main menu and everything. So I figured that was it, they just couldn't think of a good ending and threw some garbage at you and called you moronic. How the frick is anyone supposed to know that you're supposed to try to IMMEDIATELY start a new game instead of just exiting the program?
>How the frick is anyone supposed to know
You should get started with streaming, that's where all of the lolcows go
Alright smart guy, then tell me - how did YOU know?
Let me guess, because you read about the game beforehand, and/or watched someone else play it.
Steps for morons:
Stick the pick in to see where the tumblers end up
Pull out
Adjust mismatched tumbler
Repeat until open.
No.
You mean to say you didn't notice that the menu looked entirely different this time compared to before?
it was the same menu, unless it was changed in a patch to look different, and most people playing the game will have only seen the menu once, maybe twice, at that point
You actually missed the big fricking eye following your cursor?
Nevermind the wholly abrupt ending that should've clued you in to something being wrong.
you have no idea how many indie games have shitty abrupt endings
>Wow there's no way this is the ending
>Ill start a new game to see if this is really it
>start a new game
That doesn't sound like trying to figure out if the ending was real or fake, it sounds like starting a new fricking game from the beginning
>Im trans btw
calling people who dislike the game casuals didn't work
calling them /misc/tards didn't work
accusing them of being filtered didn't work
saying they hate and don't play games didn't work
but surely calling them trannies will
Like, do you have an actual argument, or are you just going to do everything you can to deflect?
Think a step ahead. You'll quickly find out if it was fake or not.
Anon, the main menu changed massively and new game + has been a feature of the genre for decades. Barring that, the game beats over your head the idea of stubbornly pursuing a nearly unknown goal Remember your Promise..
You can be forgiven for not immediately guessing if you're like 19 years old and this is the first survival horror game you've played, but crying about it is fricking stupid.
You were close-minded and wanted to be upset, thats why you didnt stop to think. I on the other hand saw the gray dead eye and just guessed that this wasnt really gonna be the end.
Having played nier automata also helps not taking the first ending too seriously.
NTA, but I agree it's lame. For anyone who hasn't played silent hill it's just shit. It was 3 am when I saw the "fake" ending so I exited the game and uninstalled. It was the real ending for me. And it sucked.
The game actually started off real strong. Investigating an spooky and isolated sci fi base with anime lesbian robots should have been an easy slam dunk, but the moment the game revealed it's monsters to be goofy robot zombies with meat cleavers I knew the game was going to be dogshit. The last section with no map, tedious backtracking, the same puzzle reused three times, and a nonsense layout is especially bad.
>endlessly respawning enemies
>give players items to stop them from respawning
>more just spawn anyway
>players expected to know to just ignore enemies and run past them because that's the "correct" way to play silent hill clones
>constantly backtracking to stash because silent hill limited the player inventory so therefore it must be good design no matter how tedious it is
People liked it because they like silent hill and because they like anime lesbian robots and that's fine. Let's stop pretending it was a good game though, even if the fanart is super cute.
I liked it because it was a cool game with a very intriguing setting and a good sense of Lovecraftian dread, truly lovecraftian and not just "we got tentacles n shiet" that pop culture slop consumers think constitutes Lovecraft.
>silent hill limited the player inventory
You haven't played silent hill
>How the frick is anyone supposed to know
You said it yourself, the story ending there made no sense. Also the menu after the fake ending was different to normal, and if you press any of the buttons including quit it continues the game. Did you just immediately alt+f4?
>if you press any of the buttons including quit it continues the game
that's the only thing that the patch changed, because get this - some high profile streamer/tuber actually quit at that point
and why would they not have quit when the game very clearly signaled that it was done, after a really shitty end segment?
>Did you just immediately alt+f4?
Yeah I actually did, no bullshit. I was pissed about the unfulfilling ending.
Take the L and stop breaking your own/gifts in sperg rage
you weren't the only one, I did the same
Thanks anon. I'm tired of these guys acting like I'm crazy for exiting a game when it fricks me like that.
Two people can be crazy.
I got caught by the fakeout ending too, but that's because I was sick when playing the game and wasn't paying too much attention. I did see that the main menu was different and the eye ceased its movement, it was a nice and fluid scene transition from the fakeout ending cutscene to the main menu. You should not react so aggressively to getting tricked, it was fairly innocuous.
How exactly should I respond to getting tricked? With a smile? No frick no, a trick is a trick. Anyone who tricks you is an enemy and has willingly marked themselves as such.
spoken like a true Black person
You sound unhinged. It's a fricking videogame.
Imagine being hinged. Who defined those hinges? It probably wasn't you.
You mustn't be a fan of comedians, street magicians, or circus clowns, huh?
damn, didn't know new autism diagnostic criteria just dropped
I already have and discussed it to death here and understood its plot before it was, incorrectly, fed to me by talking heads on youtube.
Even outside of the troony shit i would never even dream of touching dyke games
dial 8
Garbage game for trannies.
its ok at best imho. the story makes no sense, and the whole hexagon thing makes no sense as not alerting enemies is literally impossible through a lot of encounters. it could be better.
>"dude you need to play this game it's amazing"
>Why?
>"It has GAYS in it!"
>survival horro game
>fricking anytime someone mentions it its about the lesbians
fricking hell its like if you tried talking about silent hill and the only thing they talked about was James and Maria having sex
its so annoying
I want to say something clever about James' biggest problem being that he and Maria were not having sex because she was mortally ill, but you are still correct.
He's right. That's exactly what signalis fans do.
>haha, play it, dude. it's scary and it has lesbians
I feel like you watch vtubers
look the game marketed itself with shorthair latex clad anime bawds and you *don't* want us talking about the shorthair latex clad anime bawds?
anytime someone mentions it its about the lesbians
Its because you fricks only talk about them waifuhomosexualing endlessly. Look at this thread. When its not your resident schizo stirring shit up, its the coomers and trannies selfinserting.
what else is there to discuss in the game, than the characters and fandom-esque discussion about how they would act outside of the story?
or are you well-aquainted with east german culture, with just a dash of chinese?
There is a lot of that east/west berlin feel to it ay.
Something completely alien to me, having be born well after the fall of the wall.
But I could tell that aspect of the creator's context lingered very heavily on their minds in the creation of the game. The whole facility feels like regimented hellish nightmare where while it's trying to humanise things, there is something not quite right going on with the state and the abyss in the facility merely reflects what's happening deep in their own society.
As Elster descends into the facility and it's monstrousness becomes apparent, more is revealed about her own world and state in the process. They're sorta concatenated in a very clever way and this totally went over people's heads as far as reviews and shit goes. There's this heavy industrial soviet east german feel to things. It's not positive. It's very sinister in itself, because the pamphlets and whatnot are clearly laced with lie after lie. And you attached that to the realing truths as you descend into the dark. You also attach that to their meticulously detailed lifestyles - which people seriously think is just cutesy fanservice when clearly that was subversively concatenated with this sense of "something is wrong, something shouldn't be this way".
And something that is wrong is conveyed very sexually, very visually, very de-generatively (talking the degeneration of human form to mere flesh and blood pools) for a purpose. It's asking questions on our humanity and how our society may potentially be perturbing that for mere societal interests, not human individualistic interests. We're being turned into mush.
And then there's the eyes, the singularity, the hivemind, the disease and flagellate-like ritualism being evoked. Self punishment to find some truth, but ending up deep in an abyss to nowhere (literally a location name btw).
It's happening again, not again.
we get it, and I get it. I hate people calling this game troony-core.
So again, Sierpinski S-23 was semi bullshit in Elster mind? That's what I took from playing it
lolz
The gay shit actually made me hesitant and it's still really really good though.
It's kinda half explained and made a horror element in itself. Like why are they all nothing but girls? Why is that state making this a thing? Why is Alder treated like absolute shit until he snaps?
The yuri becomes less fanservice, more of a tool of oppression in the context of the game. It's so strange how it tricks people with the yuri tag still and no one considers it "a weird thing" for other contextual reasons. It's like female slavery is a common thing.
>HOW WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOOOOOW
First time you experience a false story end?
Yes actually,
If I don't count dragon's dogma which puts you back in the game.
>Fan thing has a homosexual troony in it
Why does this happen to most games
trans people make good games and alt right chuddies cant make good games for shit
Are the devs trannies or not, make up your mind.
I just won't play games where I am forced to play as a woman anymore.
It triggers your dysphoria too much, and you start to get "the thoughts"
Nah, I can´t relate with women and their problems, so I am not interested in a game if I am forced to play as a woman.
Let's see here...
>get bad end
>"continue" is missing
what do you do?
>sperg out
>"this can't be it, begin again"
or
>value your time
>have self respect
>say "frick this"
>ALT+F4
Black person you played a video game for 6 hours to get there.
Not my problem.
Don't play it. It sucks.
It really isn't, shitty RE clone that doesn't understand what made RE so good. You only have 6 item slots which means half the game is backtracking to item boxes to deposit items unless you run around naked.
On top of that, instead of having good ammo management/limits for the number of enemies, the game just respawns enemies. Personally, it just doesn't with a backtrack heavy inventory management based survival horror. Not for me.
and there's no point to saving ammo anyway because you can only carry one box at once
the point is to run pass the enemies pleb. You only need to use weapons when facing against a boss. You can literally blitz past everything.
>the point is to run pass the enemies pleb. You only need to use weapons when facing against a boss. You can literally blitz past everything.
most self aware Gankertard not understanding how this completely defeats the purpose of respawning enemies and his own argument.
I swear to god, there's like a unique breed of moronation on this board that nobody ever addresses. Sometimes I don't believe any of you are human.
Also NTA btw, because I know you're moronic enough to think so.
at the end of the day Gankertards can only insecurely and defensively appeal to "It's not hard! you're just skill issue!" even when the argument is nothing about difficulty, because with the rise of dark souls, the "difficulty complex" and all the problems that have come with that, has become the only way some morons can understand and interpret games or game design "It's good if it's difficult and le filters!" or "it's good because you think it's hard but I think it's easy, so I'm better!"
you're seething because you failed to learn how to permanently dispose of enemies in paths you would be reusing while skillfully avoiding or spending ammo on enemies you would encounter only once or twice based on room layout
please acquire some measure of skill before playing games and critiquing their difficulty
nice goalposts i can just barely see them with binoculars
game features transgender android lesbians, deal with it
no it doesn't and anyone who is reading this conversation can go read a plot summary if they're not going to play the game just to see how wrong you are, it's very simple and easily disproven
talk about video games it's not fricking difficult
they are literally trans-coded frick off bigot
>talk about video games it's not fricking difficult
We've been talking about the game, you're the one who brought up politics in this comment string
>permanently dispose of enemies
It's been a while since I tried to play it (and quit out of tedium) so I might be wrong, but can't they actually still get up again after being "permanently" disposed of?
no absolutely not, if you use a flare or shoot a flare gun into them they will never revive, which is just how it works in re1 remake
Huh, I wonder why I thought that then.
All this seething cos you got filtered by a top down indie game.
kek
>the point is to run pass the enemies pleb
This is the reason all of these modern survival horror games suck, nobody actually played the early games, just read about them. After you get the shotgun in Resident Evil you can play the game more or less 100% action, which is way more fun than dodging. The enemies in Silent Hill are zero threat and you can beat the game easily with melee alone, the only reason to run past everything is because the combat is so dogshit it hurts to play.
If devs were actually competent and understood the games that came before they would correct the mistakes, not blindly repeat them
No it’s not why do you homosexuals try to trick people into playing groomer lgbt shit? Do you know this shit won’t be played unless you hide it fricking homosexual
My limited edition vinyl for the OST came in the mail yesterday
so do any of the lesbian robots hit/abuse eachother?
Is there any survival horror with actual survival?
At the end of the game I had a shitton of ammo so just played it like an action game, unironically was more fun that way.
But this happen in basically every "survival" horror game I've played.
I'm not telling.
RE2 Remake. You will never be able to play it like an action game (unlike the original funnily enough).
RE2 Remake does it better than the past Resi games, but I wouldn't say it does it well regardless. Still succumbs to a lot of the fundemental problems of RE games.
One of the rare game that actually made me cringe. Why for the love of god have they shoved so many references? In the fake ending there is literally 4 references in 5 seconds. The game feels cheap, it would be fine if it's a fan game, but here it seems almost everything in game is ripped off from something else without much alteration. I won't even go into "maybe it's a dream bro". The worst thing is that they could have explored their original lore because there are good, interesting things inside it. Like the game could have more East germany/Stasi bend which many are not familiar with. I have a feeling that target audience for this game are kids and 20somethings how never picked up a book. Similar audience to Nier automata, but at least it completely does its own thing.
tl;dr Palworld but not fun unless you dream of being postman with shallow pockets in Somalia.
>Palworld but not fun unless you dream of being postman with shallow pockets in Somalia.
??? palworld is fun?
>pirate signalis
>play for a bit
>eh not too bad, nothing amazing though
>enemies start respawning
>quit and uninstall
yeah frick off with that trash
>0 replayability.
>Its all a dream bs
>Not scary
Atleast the music is calming I guess.
the infestation of casuals has gotten so bad in the past 1.5 years i can't understand it
where do people actually talk about games
reddit
it's casuals that like this game. It's probably pretty good if you haven't played the GOATs like RE1 Remake or RE2R
i played both of those and loved signalis actually so you can frick off if you just hate video games
>so you can frick off
"frick off" isn't an argument. It's just whiny posturing that also deflects from the fact that you implied casuals don't like this game, when it's steam page proves otherwise, not to mention that the game is legit brain-dead. when people complain about "respawning enemies" or "6 item slot" they're not complaining about difficulty, because none of those have anything to do with difficulty, both can be circumvented, since enemies are brain-dead easy to run past, and you can just backtrack. It's an argument of principle against shit, and lazy game design that doesn't result in anything interesting or engaging, but pretends it does, by padding out content with tedium, since it has nothing else to offer.
and since I know you'll be predictably too moronic to figure this out, as most morons on Ganker are.
I'm NTA.
casuals don't like this game because they bounce off its slightly demanding resource management, but even more than that the casuals on this board who don't even fricking play video games and are only here to kvetch about their political leanings are the bigger problem and you are actively being complicit in their actions by choosing to ignore that
frick off
Played it on hardest and dropped it at the third area after the fake ending, it's pretty short and pretty uninspired. I think it just gets a lot of shilling since it was made by transgenders and features transgenders
played it twice, once on the hardest, and finished it both times and found it both fulfilling and inspired
it was not made by transgenders and does not feature transgenders no matter how much astroturfing you try to do
>creator is they/xir
>music video features suzie ballsackhunter
>main characters are 'lesbians'
uh-huh
>politics are infesting the board, but how dare you you talk about a game and it's problems instead of b***hing about /misc/
>casuals don't like this game because they bounce off its slightly demanding resource management
I like how whenever you make an argument on Ganker, instead of ever actually engaging in that argument, they do this weird self referential thing, that I'd almost mistake for genuine schizophrenia if not for the easier explanation of being genuinely moronic and biased. Where they just say the opposite thing, and pretend as if it's true just because they said it.
I already pointed to evidence that it appeals to normies, the steam reviews, and what the reviews actually say. I could even give further evidence by the fact that normie tubers like Suzi, some moron names Daryll, oh and that "This is the most profound moment in gaming..." moron and whatnot, are infatuated with the game.
Indie games rarely get that large of traction and that overwhelming positive reviews, unless they're high normie tier.
Oh, but its okay, instead of actually disproving any of this wrong, you can just delusionally and baselessly affirm "It not for casual because le inventory management too hard :'( because my feelings tell me so"
yeah. I don't even know why I unironically take this mentally stunted moron infested board seriously.
neither of you play videogames because if you did you wouldn't care if it was liked by casuals or only by autists, arguing about what's the playerbase of a singleplayer game is completely pointless
you (or maybe another anon) brought casuals up in the first place because people don't like your precious game
if you don't want counsel for the defense to cross examine your argument, don't introduce it in the first place
>you (or maybe another anon) brought casuals up in the first place because people don't like your precious game
this^ just because I'm arguing against a moronic proposition, doesn't mean I care about the subject of it. I wasn't the one who brought up casuals in the first place to demean and dismiss any criticism I don't like.
what a worthless board. genuinely didn't realize signalis fans were this moronic and insecure. I can't believe some of you have frequently recommended me this game so insistently.
>casuals
nah, it's /misc/ election immigrants. and these have been around for quite a while
yeah calling them immigrants because they refuse to assimilate, shit up everything that doesn't match their deranged worldview and live in a ghetto
>demakes
nice bait
>developers start smearing shit through their games
>gamers notice and complain about it in discussions with other gamers
>"You're just obsessed with shit, go back to /shit/ and stop making everything shitty"
>games still have shit smeared through them
>cry for years that people who you don't like should make their own games
>they make their own games
>you cry about it even more
stay mad about girls kissing other girls on your screen
I'm just criticising a bad game, you're one trying to dismiss that criticism as being politically motivated
it is politically motivated and you can drop the false pretense already
try playing games for once instead of just whinging about ones you will never touch
>it is politically motivated and you can drop the false pretense already
>try playing games for once instead of just whinging about ones you will never touch
I wouldn't knowingly buy a troony game but I bought, played, and decided I disliked this well before I had any inkling that that was the case, and I don't really care if its. My criticism of it isn't politically motivated at all.
>/u/ game with cute girls in a setting that relentlessly shits on communism is the same as the current zeitgeist of quasi-communists trying to make everything as ugly as possible
ok, LSTR-512 is now male. what are your criticisms?
>/u/ game with cute girls in a setting that relentlessly shits on communism is the same as the current zeitgeist of quasi-communists trying to make everything as ugly as possible
I wasn't saying Signalis is this, I was criticizing to the general 'How dare you point out the politicization of games, /misc/tard/ election tourist' attitude
>ok, LSTR-512 is now male. what are your criticisms?
It still a bad mishmash of concepts taken from better media and shoved together in a way that ends up being mediocre and tedious
and it's probably still aggressively anime in a way that detracts from the tone
>'How dare you point out the politicization of games, /misc/tard/ election tourist
>what's MGS
>what's FF
>what's Arcanum, Planescape, etc.
Games with politics or political allegory in their plots aren't the same as games that worship and promote modern politics
try again
>ok, LSTR-512 is now male. what are your criticisms?
Is he properly male, or is he still an anime uwubot who's just yaoibait instead of yuribait?
he's fujobait
that's why his sole objective is to kill his gf
People who like playing games are busy playing games. Not shitposting on Ganker
sorry but im not a queer
ill play it when they release a male protagonist
same for va1halla
>lesbos
I will consider playing it then.
I will not play your degenerate LGBT game.
>Lesbians
Maybe if it goes on sale for at least 90 percent.
Will Signalis want to make me chop off my wiener and kill myself? Yes or no
>Will Signalis want to make me chop off my wiener and kill myself? Yes or no
Yes, but only out of desperation to end the tedium
it will make you cry and/or make you want to kiss android girls
>it will make you cry
I am genuinely astounded that anyone found the drama of the main character remotely engaging.
It's so incredibly lifeless- there's so little the devs do to establish any chemistry or likeability for Elster and Ariane.
They liked to dance and watch movies. Wow. Never seen a character dynamic like that before.
If you want me to be sad when bad things happen to the character or are revealed to have already happened to them I have to actually care about them first.
I don't honestly think any additional time spent establishing character relationships would change your mind if that's the only thing that stuck with you.
Okay well take the opportunity to explain what about it worked for you.
I think it has the same problem as a lot of action movies- you're expected to feel sad because the protagonist's wife died in a tragedy! Don't you see how tortured he is!
Elster is compelled to feel this unbearable longing! How she suffers!
Ariane got bullied and now she has to go to space and leave everything behind!
I don't care.
For the record, this is why I find it so odd that everyone focuses on the characters so much when they're talking about the game.
There was so little of interest there.
I HATE HATE HATE and despise people that respond to contentions like this. Because not only does it make it abundantly clear that whatever "depth" they see in the characters that made them cry is completely arbitrary and more so presentation, aesthetic and feeling based. But also because it's like such a stark expression of an unapprectiation of how mediums can depict GENUINE and substantial relationships that aren't just artificial props and cardboard representation of what every moron who's never been in a relationship...sees in a relationship.
Silent Hill 2's depiction of two people that love eachother, and therefore hated eachother had far more depth and genuineness to it. Too bad literally everything else about that game is shit, both gameplay and story wise. It could have been the one videogames story to ever get "people" and relationships right otherwise. But I can't ignore the abomination that is Eddie (and to a lesser degree, Angela because I'm supposed to feewl bad for her 🙁 omg)
frick. I hate you all so much. genuinely allow for such a low standard of storytelling and character writing.
just engage with the morons contention and make an actual argument or case that isn't just: "heh, he doesn't see what I SEE, because he didn't cry like I did. I'm going to smugly express that without actually demonstrating any reason why his assertion is wrong".
garbage, is what you all are. *sigh* why am I even wasting my time, people aren't gunna get any less shallow.
Yeah, that's better than I could put it.
And like I said, I don't think a story necessarily needs really good character writing to be interesting, it's just strange that this is what everyone seems to latch onto signalis for when there's so little material.
It comes across like they're just injecting meaning and depth into the story based on its superficial resemblances to their own feelings/struggles.
First off, don't *sigh* do this. It makes it impossible for me to take you seriously. Also what they posted was an opinion, I posted a contention. I don't charge rent for people being ESL but using ill fitting words drags down any point you're making.
Second, you have a multitude of notes and logs establishing Elster and Ariane's connections throughout the game and subtly building on it. Like your (and a lot of other people's favorite) example in SH2, you don't have a bunch of shit dumped on the player right away. The music and dancing bit is payoff for all the other stuff you're picking up along the way, as a final answer to the question of "who is she to you?"; which is great because it still leaves the question open "what was my promise?".
Third, touch grass. I don't "allow" low standards, and even if I somehow magically decided who does and doesn't write in an indie videogame, I would have difficulty grading SIGNALIS overall as anything less than competent.
I don't hate you for it, but I can only describe your line of reasoning as annoying.
SIGNALIS's story works well in my mind because it's built on strong questions and draws parallels among them in a relatively small cast. "Who is this I am looking for?" "Where is she?" "Who is she to me?" "Why do I need to find her?" are all half-answered and hinted at as the story progresses. Sometimes you get answers without questions which are equally interesting in puzzling together what has transpired.
It depends, are you already degenerate?
No thanks.
anyone complaining about respawning enemies is suffering from genuine moronation
either that or they never played it and just heard about it and decided it is bad, which is also genuine mental moronation anyway
>enemies respawn with much lower health
>enemies are on the floor until you go near so they have almost no chance to bother you
>the game is already way too stale when backtracking, potentially respawning enemies is the only thing that can add tension
>the game has a frickton of flares for you to burn bodies
>combined with just being able to WASD through the anemic ass shallow and pathetic enemies
respawning enemies is literally the only dynamism the enemies offer and one of their only ways to add more tension. Its literally the only good element in the most lackuster part of the game.
There is an element of strategy later in the game on which enemies you may choose to burn to make backtracking easier; but overall only rooms with huge enemy density are frustrating to have revivals.
I think I only ended up having trouble in Nowhere because you have some rooms that are just fricking orgies in tight rooms, and that's only because I mismanaged my ammo and was down to only grenades.
>he doesn't embrace the actual RE gameplay of just running past every single enemy
seriously, it's not like they can shoot you (okay MYNAHs can but they are very few and between and you can dodge it anyway)
the fact that the enemies respawn is the game telling you to blitz past them. I can understand not liking that type gameplay, but the guns are also pretty shit. Either way you will end up running pass them.
doing that all the time can get boring, enemies in this game also take like zero strategy to run past
signalis would be genuinely much better if it was a more oppressive in enemies
Nah.
Why is it never normal trannies who want to be real women
It's always AGP troons into lesbianism
Disgusting fricking freaks
memory is best ending
>all the shit Elster does
>Ariane just goes "I forgor"
>Elster dies beside her
peak suffering kino
>It's okay
>Please, just let me stay by your side
>a little longer
>lost the fanart from the very first threads of Falke holding Adler to her thigh because I got a new PC
all lost, like tears in the rain.
gotchu senpai
Adler's eyes creep me the frick out there.
thank you
it's uncanny because the man has smiled for the first time in his life
also reminder Storches are violent psychos who have to be restrained because they keep torturing people to death for lols
troonys be damned but this soundtrack has good industrial
I'm kinda sad the vinyl OST doesn't use this cover because the sorta worn impression of a disc already in is great. People love Cigarette wife, but I think the uncut version of Eulenlied is best.
Train ride, warm light and 3000 cycles are great too.
it's very varied and atmospheric, i'm a big fan.
cigarette wife is on my workout playlist.
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but 4chink told me it was... LE BAD?
It's mediocre, people just loved it because they were starved for a traditional survivor horror game
(and some people loved it because it's 2deep4me indiebait)
I wonder if that asshurt homosexual communist is still lurking.
I did. I enjoyed the puzzles. Not too difficult, but still fun
Where did you get that picture of me?
>tfw no Eule gf
Sex with a replika is verboten. Consider your rationmarks.
>not going for mommy mynah
For me, it's the autist gf hivemind
>that asshurt homosexual communist
There's only one?
Only one confirmed. He got salty as frick about communism being portrayed as the shit it is way back and had a meltdown in a thread.
Did anyone save it? I want to read this
That's distant thread history at this point and it was not as entertaining as you would think. The idiot kept trying to argue that communists did not censor art and I dumped walls worth of historical evidence on him that they in fact did, censor art and only state approved artists were at all allowed to produce art without being persecuted. This, apparently, broke his fricking mind and he spent the next months ruthlessly stalking every Signalis thread to shit on it.
That was one of the most moronic arguments I got involved in on Ganker and that says something.
homosexual sovieticus, man. It's a religious devotion to them. I should re-read gulag archipelago.
I wouldn't put much stock in Solzhenytsin, he is basically a fiction writer. There's more reliable and accurate historical sources that accurately criticize the soviets and their failures of political and economic structure.
It wasn't bad at all, it's just that a lot of people that lacked basic problem solving skills complained, so they included it as an option.
>It wasn't bad at all, it's just that a lot of people that lacked basic problem solving skills complained, so they included it as an option.
there's no problem solving or even remotely close to puzzle like thinking involving inventory management. It's objectively just tedium and backtracking. Some people just have absolutely low standards and will let anything go because they're genuinely unthinking morons that latch onto the most surface level of games so desperately that you'd think they have no substance themselves.
regardless. your statement comes across moreso as insecure and defensive, than actual...statement about anything. please enlighten and do tell, how taking items back and from the inventory box, due to an arbitrary limitation of how much inventory can be carried. is "problem solving". Is it because you need to make a choice? Then every single game requires problem solving, but that would be a stupid thing to say, because the term would become meaningless so as to communicate nothing at that point.
Is it because you need to use flares, and or bullets and healing "effectively" so as to not carry them, so you can carry more puzzle items? That wouldn't change the inherent tedium that would still be present, you will be asked to carry more than 6 items regardless.
I'm curious. But I KNOW you have no answer, so I'm trying to give you something to work with.
Good job making my case for me, now you can vacate the premises.
ah the old "I'll make no argument but smugly affirm that because I think you're wrong and have exclaimed so, then you must be" not realizing how that blatantly expresses an aversion to actual critical thinking, self awareness or self determined thought and ultimately expresses nothing other than the shallow and circular fact that one believes themselves to be right so they must be, further not realizing how worthless of a conclusion is, but I'm not going to feed you the answer. If you can't figure that for yourself, then your initial assertion was worthless in the first place, and existed as nothing else but to validate oneself and hide from insecurity by ego stroking and deflecting reality.
you have nothing for this. don't bother replying. you've been dealt with.
>That's distant thread history at this point and it was not as entertaining as you would think.
Idiocy like that is, in itself, entertaining, and watching it get destroyed is always hilarious
But I will just be happy with the version of it in my head, thank you for explaining
IIRC he tried to infer that communism didn't censor or suppress art. It was a year or so back at this point. It was pretty moronic fricking gommie cope.
>IIRC he tried to infer that communism didn't censor or suppress art
Amazing.
There's reason to believe he's one of the guy either posting the shitpost 'BETTER THAN SH :^)' threads or just the 'troony shit' constant replies out of sheer eternal butthurt.
I wish I could play this game but yurigays and the lesbian sex meme disgusting me.
Any tips on how to let go of my hatred?
You're not missing anything
>letting the fandom around the game stopping you from enjoying the game
brother, what the frick are you doing, I despise the souls """community""" and all the bootlicks I still love the souls games
It's Ganker, you think anons can like anything that others don't approve of? Art can't stand on its own here.
I just can't do it, anon, the fanbase disgusts me and I can't separate it from the game for some reason.
Remember your promise, Anon...
...To transition...
troony game
lesbian
at least be a little more informed of what to hate, sweatie
too trooncore for me thanks
I wonder how many of these are samegays. Makes you wonder, the exact same comments every thread.
troony Game
making an Elster vtube model for fun, I hope it hasnt already been done. Unsure if I should make it a pixel model or leave it like this
Someone went around in VRChat as one showing people the photo.
Not too shabby
really nice, looks like a signalis OC though?
It's probably a recolored mishmash of different models.
Here's another. I swear I saw them in a recreation of Ariane's house on rotfront too, the winter station.
looks really gay to me
I quit in the nowhere place when inventory management got absolutely fricking moronic. Don't have 10 different puzzle items when you have like 6 inventory slots, i'm not doing this fricking back and forth bullshit
did you play recently? this is changeable in the options menu
Which part is changeable?
Inventory limit increased to 10, I think, they also made the eye and flashlight not take up an inventory slot. Those features are toggleable. I had no issues even in Nowhere because the game establishes pretty early that puzzles are structured in such a way as to make sure you utilize the item box frequently.
It doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence in their game design if even they realized it was so bad they had to backtrack on it
But I don't really want to shit on them for having such a limited inventory AND shit on them for changing it, so I'll just say it's cool they made it toggleable and gave people options
Honestly my only problem was the eye/flashlight taking up slots, because your radio module didn't making it feel inconsistent.
Yeah, the "5 items no matter how small" thing was handled very badly
I guess if I play it again I'll finish my playthrough with the toggles off (I'm autistic like that) but even just the flashlight thing sounds like it fixes the game significantly
>didn't map out Nowhere with a pencil and paper
come on the "rooms don't connect to each other logically" is ripped straight out of SH
>let's combine Resident Evil's inventory management (but more restrictive)
>and Silent HIll's multi-stage item puzzles
>what could go wrong???
My only interest left is the memes.
the game looks cool
I think i'd buy it if it was lesbians (japan)
CHADalis won btw
So the secret ending is the happy one?
For the protagonists? For sure. For the rest of the solar system, not really.
So was everything going to Hell already and the Secret Ending is LSTR finding a way to get through it, or is everything going to Hell BECAUSE LSTR is trying to get the Secret Ending?
Everything is going to hell because Ariane is trying to use the equivalent of the Heart of Lorkhan to make her dream override reality so that she could use the Heart of Lorkhan to make her dream override reality so that she could use the Heart of Lorkhan, e.t.c..She needs Elster to Monkey Typewriter her way into the correct solution over the course of an unknown amount of times of time loops to make it possible. It's a lengthy mess of groundhog day timeloops and folded space and a lone administrator with a fountain pen that he likes very much.
>t. Adler
So Space Communists sent a psychic on a death mission and she got so mad she became God?
Laika fell in love and became god.
Kind of, we don't know why Ariane's consciousness persisted past the death of her physical body and endured within the red realm. All we know is that she was a really powerful psychic and she spent a lot of time even past her death feeling like she's still dying of radiation poisoning, which is why you see so many shadows on the wall at S-23 and Rotfront. A leaked text from the French (?) version of the game hints that Ariane might have spent over seven hundred years in that state.
I was under the impression she was being kept alive by the artifact.
It's possible. The tesseract is incredibly important to whatever she's doing. It's there on the title screen and there in the hidden ending and its visible form is the thematic number repeated throughout the game.
Well yeah that, and doesn't she not want to be alive to begin with?
Isn't that the point of the promise?
There's two theories. Either the promise is not what we think it is, or it is, but Elster cannot fulfill it anyway because Ariane had been dead for a long time now, so Elster is now being used for something else entirely, such as Ariane's apotheosis. Does this look like someone that's begging to die?
Isn't that from one of the backstory shots? Ariane looks markedly different when she addresses LSTR directly or during her psychic projection over lSTR's deactivated body.
It's a flash you get at Rotfront.
>lost another tooth today
Yeah, it's definitely a fragment from her past, when she was still a physical person then, instead of a dreamer within a dream.
It was the correct move, that way Signalis cannot be used as a political soapbox by moronic pseuds.
>that way Signalis cannot be used as a political soapbox
fanbase is crawling with homosexuals and trannies that latched onto this garbage purely based on the "lesbo sex" shit so it clearly didn't work
I would say it clearly did work given that despite racism, sexism, homophobia, tobacco and alcohol being gone, a communist setting is still depicted as a horrible dystopia where your children will be disappeared by the state for having the wrong opinions and every district of every city has an assigned officer whose job is to use her psychic powers to detect wrongthink. I don't give a shit what emotional teens do in their spare time on X and neither should you.
The only reason the promise would continue to exist is if she were still longing to die- since the signals coming from her are a result of her mental state.
Why would the promise be anything else than what it obviously is?
A malfunctioning robot going through the motions.
But none of the Elster units were malfunctioning before they received these signals?
They were and it is an important plot point you had overlooked, because all LSTR units have been scanned of a previously salvaged different LSTR unit instead of the original neural pattern stored within the archive, like it goes for every other replika presumably, because the oriignal neural pattern of the LSTR unit had been lost during the war.
>because all LSTR units have been scanned of a previously salvaged different LSTR unit instead of the original neural pattern stored within the archiv
Which existed before Ariane went on the expedition and functioned fine until they started receiving signals from that expedition.
Also LSTR is really just another model of Falke, which also functioned fine before this incident.
LSTR being a copy of a copy of a copy instead of just a copy of a copy like every other replika is a pretty important distinction, I would say and that wasn't just put into the game and shoved in front of your face as a red herring. All replika units eventually destabilize and end up decommissioned, it is pretty much a fact of life and every replika service manual communicates it as something that is only a matter of time.
>Also LSTR is really just another model of Falke
Where did you get that from?
>Where did you get that from?
Sameface, reacts in a similar way to the elster units, receives the same memories, etc.
>being a copy of a copy of a copy instead of just a copy of a copy like every other replika is a pretty important distinction
You're right that this is important, it's important because it makes her similarity to Falke a reveal rather than just outright telling you they're the same. But this doesn't remotely relate to Ariane except in explaining why they react the same way to the signals.
I don't think that's the case at all with Falke and has more to do with the fact that she's a powerful bioresonant. My understanding is that all S-23 dwellers received a serious dose of Ariane's eldritch cancer further amplified by the LSTR from the prologue that was used to broadcast it as another medium. It's possible that gestalts were getting Ariane's memorise and Replika were getting LSTR's memories, but we also do not know which LSTR that is, it might have been a fresh one, or it might have been one that had finished one of the loops and just sat down to look at nothing, which she saw as a computer screen.
No, I'm pretty sure other units are all just getting some kind of noise that drives them insane, there's no sign that the other units are receiving anything resembling Ariane or Elster's memories. Adler talks about persistent feelings of deja vu, nothing about Ariane or Elster. He even says- the only thing he understands is that when elster goes through the gate things get a little bit worse each time.
I feel like I'm arguing with your headcanon right now 'might have' 'we don't know' 'it's possible.'
Okay, but what's in the actual game?
I highly doubt that Falke getting Elster's memories is evidence of Falke and Elster being somehow related or connected when Falke describes being poisoned by "the eye" beyond the gate which resulted in her receiving the memories. Whatever it was that had caused her to receive Elster's memories had been done to her intentionally and not as a consequence of some sort of a hidden connection.
>Whatever it was that had caused her to receive Elster's memories had been done to her intentionally and not as a consequence of some sort of a hidden connection.
I mean the other thing is that Elster's memories aren't even much of a factor here, most of the signals Elster gets are entirely from the time she spent with Ariane, sometimes Ariane's unique memories specifically (Elster receives Ariane's memory of being in the classroom, on the train).
The original elster unit is long dead. If any of elster's original memories were being transmitted I would have expected more of them to be from her unique background, either impressions from the war or otherwise.
We do get the series of Elster's gestalt's, Lilith Itou, memories during the fakeout ending rapidly flashing across the screen. And LSTR coming to S-23 to look for Alina Seo, who was Lilith's comrade on Vineta, already showing that she malfunctions since the first moments of the game. The prologue LSTR is also different as she is looking for Ariane. That is from what I intuit the prologue LSTR being used in the broadcast. She couldn't be the original 512 because that one died when the ship's reactor shielding failed and both her and Ariane's bodies at the time should be drifting in a lifeless hulk of a ship somewhere around the Oort Cloud. But it also cannot be a fresh arrival to S-23, because that one is looking for Alina Seo. She sits down and continuously receives an encoded transmission from somewhere until her polyethelene shell peels away, which would be a considerable amount of time in an inhospitable environment.
I want to go out in public with a Mynah gf
Signal is what
Signal is these nuts :DDDDDDD
Frick you for making me laugh at something so stupid
I want my laugh back, you didn't deserve it
I-Is that... Is that a hexagon??? AWWWGGHHHHH THE RULE OF SIX???? AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M DESTABILIZING UUUOOOGGHHJ SAVE ME FLKR- NO STOP MUNCHING CARPET YOU USELESS FRICKING DYKE
WWAAAGGHHHHHHH NOOOO I'M GOING TO ARIANE
I liked it a lot, but the requirements to unlock each ending are nonsensical to me.
I actually didn't get the true ending. It was just soooooo much work and soooooo esoteric.
https://vocaroo.com/167RnORFVMze
Mandatory listen for Adler chads.
>with an elevator you can kill anyone you want
my sides
If you can't see beyond the veil of reality, don't bother playing this.
A minimum requirement to get started on SIGNALIS is to have 150 IQ plus.
The game takes too much from literary works, art, music, religion and history, that if you don't have the knowledge of what they are, their meaning and story behind them, you will struggle to understand a lot of the concept SIGNALIS presents.
TLDR: I wouldn't recommend SIGNALIS to the average Gankertard normalgay
>The game takes too much from other works
boy does it ever
>And then she turned herself into a meat coffin. Funniest thing I've ever seen
just watch the mouth of madness and you will understand 100% of signalis
thread should have ended here, this is the only clear answer
now we're on a circlejerk of yuri homosexualry
I dont want to harrass the dev on twitter, but where the frick is the switch update
You probably should. I heard that the game also works very poorly on steam deck.
It's good, but the heavyhanded references are embarrassing. I couldn't take the story seriously at all, but aesthetically it was pretty good. Gameplay was alright.
This and Fear and hunger remind me that I dont actually like video games anymore
Games that everyone I know praises and even peopel online lieks but I cant even be arsed to check the main menu of.
Back to fgs and league of legends.
To be fair, both this and Fear and Hunger have the same issue of "Borderline casualgays hear about neat game from X e-ecleb and obsess over it like it's the harbinger of indie video game renaissance," because they actually don't play that many new games and only ever get exposed to shit thanks to their online "friends" and some superficial element that makes their dick tingle (i.e. anime girls).
And a good chunk of Ganker is the same way, since this place gets an increasing number of those "borderline casualgays" immigrating here each day. They don't branch out to look for hidden gems. They don't explore other genres that might interest them. They just gravitate towards weebshit and whatever Markipediegold or Jerma or whoever is playing this week. And then they make it their identity for months at a time.
Fear and Hunger is cool in concept and unbearable to play in practice without savescum or grinding to know every nook and cranny.
Which really isn't fun.
for me, its the promis ending
lily ending is just pure delusional copium and both memory and leave ending are for failures and cowards
You are permitted to be incorrect. It'd be delusional copium if it was a poorly substantiated fan theory instead of an ending implemented within the game. I do agree about the memory and leave. And killing Alina doesn't really solve anything either.
i see it as this anon:
the promise that was shared between elster and ariane is, on the surface at least, to kill ariane. the promise ending shows the fulfillment of that promise. i do not see the lily ending as a fulfillment of that promise, instead it is just a dream within a dream, as seen by the big red eye above, where elster is trapped in a dance in the ruins of the penrose with ariane for eternity, an endless dance in a cherished memory, yet it is nothing but that, a nostalgic dream for a time long lost. is elster happy? perhaps, but at the cost of everything else, perhaps even of ariane, who gazes at the dream from beyond. a dance that never ends, never moving forwards nor back. just a singular moment now frozen in time. and yet we never get to see ariane's face in this ending.
so yes, i do think the lily ending is copium and thus i consider the promise ending to be the best ending.
You're making the mistake of choosing to view the Promise ending with the context of the game and its events and not doing the same thing for Artifact.
well i am trying anon, but i'm more or less seeing the promise ending as a better ending than lily as its more narratively fulfilling at least to elster's journey despite the implication that it simply leads back to the loop (but then again, it could be argued that it's more of a thematic mirroring of the memory ending). i see the lily ending as somewhat 'worse' despite it breaking the cycle implied in the other three endings (by creating a different one entirely, just her and her love in that perpetual moment). elster collects three pieces, of love, of eternity, and of sacrifice, and opens that safe containing that memory. to achieve that ending requires breaking the fourth wall of the game itself, to realize its unreality. lily simply ends up in another unreality, and personally, that unreality feels more like an escape than an attempt to face truth, to hold on to that cherished love for eternity, sacrificing everything in her path for that fleeting shard of the past. it is happy, but it feels empty, broken even. and there is even that phrase on that ending, about men seeking of death but without purchase
tl;dr: i don't really think the lily ending is as hopeful as people make it out to be
i don't think its alina, but yeah there is really no explicit ending, which makes all the theorizing fun
Appearance of the lily was the sign of miraculous resolution within The King in Yellow.
hate to break it to you anon, but elster doesn't kill ariane in the promise ending. it's alina who eventually turned into a projection of ariane from beyond
there is no good ending
im not a fan of any of the endings since this is an endless loop. Wish they had more confidence and gave us 1 ending.
Elster was never in the 512
In fact, no LSTR unit was ever in a Penrose vessel
Because it doesn't make any sense
Why would you put a specialized and rare replika type on a shitty cheap ship that is used in a suicidal, statistically-impossible mission?
It simply makes no sense. Obviously there was another gestalt in there with Ariane. A gestalt she fell in love with, who she spent her final moments with, whose memories were broadcasted through space via bioresonance.
These are the memories that were implanted in the LSTR we play as, via the same mechanism utilized to create replikas. And because of this, she chases someone she never actually met.
This means the "canon" ending is the Memory ending. Even if Elster were to reach the 512, Ariene doesn't recognize her because she genuinely has no idea who she is. And Elster, either out of despair or realization, curls up and dies.
And then it happens again. And again. And again. And everytime it happens reality becomes more and more corrupted because this whole ordeal breaks every single known law of the universe. Until Ariene finally breaks and accepts Elster, simply because she's her only hope of ending her suffering. And this finally closes the loop.
>but what about the flashbacks? The documents?
That's the thing, they never existed. The real memories would tear down Elster's delusions, so she made up her own.
>what about the Artifact ending?
The Artifact ending is Elster doubling down and destroying reality even more. To get it, you actively have to break the fourth wall because of all the steps necessary to achieve this ending.
And in the end, Elster gets what she wants. But at what cost?
I started to laugh at this but then I realized it's just very sad
why the frick do they talk like they're mentally disabled chunguses?
they're women
I swear if you've been on the internet long enough you can sus out the typing style of biological women
Why did you chop off your dick.
Is it a real woman though?
reminder
This is lie though, they mention in the notes these sex machines have a hierarchy and bully eachother.
That's not sexism though. Sexism is discrimination over gender; the Replikas are barely human adjacent and the only man on the entire cast (that isn't referred to in a log or note) doesn't get treated largely differently than any other. There's not even implied sexism in his position; the boss is a woman and his role is even more as a special advisor rather than even a second-in-command. Similarly the Replikas are divided by tasks in a hyper-utilitarian an aesthetic society; other than Falke and Adler (the former being in command and the latter being her advisor and assistant, both roles that benefit from having private chambers) they all have communal dorms with nearly identical amenities, deviating only where specific items or services are better suited to keeping them useful. So you can't claim racial conflict either; at the most there's workplace politics and friction.
>Replikas break their protocols
Is this a surprise?
He's not directly ostracised, but then again when you turn everyone around him into zombie people that kinda becomes less of a problem and the bigger issue is "can they act human at all or are they all just programmed to behave in this way, including the protag and her lover".
It's like watching robots try to find a human thing, love, even though they clearly don't quite understand it. It's all confusing to them. They manifest things trying to emulate it, only for the audience to realise "they don't know how humans usually find love". So you get this visceral madness and error that is rampant in the setting. The "humans" in it never truly feel human. You empathise and sympathise with the protag a bit, but there's some dissonance there. Knowing what they are, do you truly understand these things that look like humans but are clearly so dis-happened by programming (likely for the sake of mere ideology initially but potentially for something "darker")?
To me the theme is more a struggle between complete trans-humanistic disembodiment and grounding yourself in a human sense, to seek a human way of life and understand what it means to be human and carry it out.
This is why the yuri is really just bait for something far more twisted. It becomes an aspect of a struggle to find ground as human beings and not monsters. It's caught in that.
Reminds me kinda of Bladerunner 2049 and what it did a bit with K.
>tobacco/smoking
>2nd most viewed song from the OST is called "cigarette wife"
you can't make this shit up.
How does Ganker feel about the DON'T TRY music video using Signalis footage?
It kinda feels like when Lil Nas X's first Old Town Road music video, before that shit REALLY blew up, was just him playing RDR2.
Great game, fanbase ruined it for most people because of OMG LESBIANS LGBT REPRESENTATION SO CUTE I'M ALSO MENTALLY ILL XDDD even though it's a fricking robot.
>OMG LESBIANS LGBT REPRESENTATION SO CUTE I'M ALSO MENTALLY ILL XDDD even though it's a fricking robot.
That's in line with author intent houghever
nope, there's absolutely no mention of any of this schizophrenia during the entire game
>fully expected a plethora of porn
>there's only about 10 pics and they're all Elster and Ariene eating eachother out
I mean there's lots of futa.
I dunno where you saw that anon, all i've seen is mostly futashit, >fathomosexualry and other weird shit
troon game
You will never be a woman join the 41% now
is this game really good or just another le lgbt meem xdddd?? It's like Prey meets GITS?
no, it's shit. lesbian shit is the main focus of the story.
That's what I fear, I played Nier Automata thinking the game was good and all I got was a shitty open world game -I hate open worlds- with the most entry level existentialism ever. I felt I was playing a rick and morty game.
It's decent. Don't bother if you don't like classic survival horror.
I love classic SH that's why I'm kinda interested. I just finished Tormented Souls and I'm looking for something new to play.
Well give it the old under two hour try.
If it doesn't grab you by then, refund it.
I'm gonna pirate it before paying for it. Let's see how it goes.
It mogs silent hill
Why because silent hill had a heterosexual relationship
Why dont you frick off to a silent hill thread instead? have a nice day samegayging trash.
I'm sorry I don't have the desire to cut my penis my off like you do
Sorry I don't think that Signalis is better than the series it was obviously inspired by.
>moron thinks silent hill is the main inspiration
Refer to
, subhuman
And yet 99% of the game is an unoriginal and poorly realized attempt to be Silent Hill+Resident Evil
>LGBT game
>its fanbase is fragile
many such cases
>say something stupid
>multiple people disagree
>"It must be one person SAMEgayGING"
Well the OG silent hill aged really bad to be honest, te question is, is it at the same level as SH3?
It really doesn't.
that's not a high bar considering the series didn't have a good game in over 20 years
>Considering the series only had 2 good games
There, fixed.
sh1 is still good even if dated
It's trash
Absolutely ludicrous assertion
I gotta admit, it has way more depth than SH. But I still feel like SH has this immediate horror that it does a bit better. Plus it's in 3d, not 2.5d.
If silent hill 3 type monsters and setting was given better treatment with an actual good plot and actual good dialogue, it would hit harder than Sig. SH2 does though already.
The game is good but it's not scary and that counts a lot if you're making a
survival horror game. You finish the game with more ammo than Rambo.
The aesthetic carries the game.
I know there's some jungian ideias when they decided to throw the word synchronicity in your face and I was thinking about learning more about the lore and the ideas used in the game. But I think that's a waste of time.
troony game.
I wonder what compels someone who sees discussion to just repeat the same shitpost, over and over again. Is it butthurt about the game in specific? An autistic hatred of discussion? Or perhaps it's just fricking Ganker.
See
Being btfo'd in an argument about commies censoring art. It's the same kind of an autist that starts to spam gore when he loses an argument, plenty of creatures like that on any board.
sorry i dont have agp
troony game with troony aesthetics and a troony story. Hard fricking pass.
Adler was the only one holding the world together. The women just kept making things worse.
>wants to be stuck in the loop >doesn't want to move on >thinks putting things off forever works
>thinks elevators are a solution
Not fooling anyone Adler
Literally every time she got past him, things became worse. And Worse. For Everyone.
A Shinja....
You think Adler pulled a Shinji on Falke?
nah. he did smooch her forehead though.
>pulling a shinji on the silicon schizo that can turn your brain into mush
Mynah is a precious baby
What I wouldn't give to be at Beo's side to comfort her through the never ending cycle
I literally played and beat it for the first time ever last weekend. Good timing.
Great game.
Truly some candy for us oldgay RE and SH gays. I also love how unapologetic they're about their influences and inspirations. Lots of GitS, Blame, and even Bakemonogatri in the mix.
No. Play Tormented Souls, the better troony survival horror game.
It gets boring really fast
Lots of world building which have frick all to do with the game
Hiding the true ending behind a contrived goose chase which the game gives no hint about (using specific radio frequency on a specific random room on a specific random cell. btw it was bugged half of the time on release and if didn't work you had to restart the game)
They had a gem here but broke it into pieces and fused with donkey dung. NEVER let trannies and women gamers taint your gaming while in development
I refunded it because it was shit
But I already did.
It was kino.
Thought it was going to be just a lazy ripoff of SH too. Nonono, this shit was fricking good and not really that similar to SH at all. It's more like Blame! or something. It's just visceral.
woke troony trash "game"
Why do so many trannies shill this game?
First off, from what I have seen common, troonys WILL latch to anything niche that includes gays, horrid atmosphere, hints of " life goals" to appertain themselves to. From that they'll make it their whole personality and shill it to death.
Why would trannies shill an anti-transhumanism message?
The Replika units are essentially a prettied up version of Stalkers from Half Life with some cybernetics and maybe slightly more liberty.
It's like they're sex cult sacrifices to whatever this abomination of a state is doing cult wise. You realise they're all female for some weird fricked up purpose and it's not just mere yuri.
But of course some morons ignore that and just focus on it being mere fanservice. No, they would never use this obvious red herring to introduce something far more sinister right?
It's not like theirs some form of hive-state oppressive demiurge that indulges in tormenting these bondage looking dolls for it's own sick and twisted reasons either.
No the yuri is just there for gays to buy it! It's got nothing to do with ideas like "holy mother" or stuff like that.
The developers are literally trans
So they can't be shilling it for their own reasons then.
It's pretty self-critical 2bh.
Reminder that Kurdistan is a real place and uses real forced female soldier slaves, just like Signalis.
It's not as mere "fanservice yuri" as you'd think. There's real precedent out there. Real shit.
Crazy there's genuine people who wait for these threads just to shitpost endlessly instead of going to play games.
Maybe it's communism.
The threads when it came out were pretty good, I'm glad I enjoyed that time with the actual videogame-enjoyer Gankerirgins.
I did. It's really good.
the deranged make the best art, and the game simply would not be nearly as good if the developers weren't trans
I disagree, they just get away with more shit because they're trans and therefore not mindlessly screeched at about the exploitative themes in it.
It sucks how you now have to be trans to have a license to make dirty exploitative shit. Assuming they are trans.
Nah it's more like men have given up making striking exploitative grindhousey shit because they're petrified of negative responses from women now.
It sucks.
Great thread guys, same time next week?
The lesbianism is part of the horror since it's, initially, an emotionaly ostracized military officer sexually exploiting her enslaved subordinate, and then progresses into a mutually damaging samsara where they drag themselves and everyone around them into an eternal cycle of suffering that only deepens the more they try to love.
People who say it's a troony game are just imitating shit they saw on the internet, same as trannies.
It's a lesbian game. but actually a coomer game but actually it's a heartbreaking love story
But it's literally beyond GitS transhumanism. Some of the girls in the games are barely human at all and for a dark purpose. The sex is most likely intentional for dark ritualistic purposes, psuedo-satanic purposes (it's not really satanism, but it sure feels like Diablo's lower levels at times with the vibe).
I'm guessing there are kids and lgbt types today that didn't know the satanic-gay sex theme was "rather relevant" here.
Because what better way to please the dark demiurge than through ritualistic blood sacrifices of girls, mind fricked and programmed into fricking each other for evil reasons. Reasons we all never truly understand to degree, though it's definitely heavily implied.
I almost forgot that there used to be that aspect of satanic rituals in the past, given the modern "rainbows and hugs" mentality modern lgbt types have now. Our system has spent so much time lying and pretending that was never a thing that we've almost indoctrinated even the lgbt types into believing this.
I miss that aspect of taboo. This game does it well. Very well.
satan is literally a homosexual. Lucifer is a cool dude though
>satan is literally a homosexual. Lucifer is a cool dude though
>he doesn't know the canon king and queen of hell are the two of them
Lucy didn't fall from heaven just to sit around and do nothing.
And last time I checked, all angels were male and rather gay.
>demons are male and gay
>angels are male and gay
Isn't this strange?
It's like they're just a shadow of each other.
Certainly says something about God. The holy mother (male).
You must be moronic if you think you can trick me with that absurd nonsense. Absolutely fricking ridiculous. Your mouth would be better suited on your own dick, rather than spewing garbage at me. I'll say it again, just because you don't like it - Satan is a b***h.
You're telling me?
Being a fan of HEALTH and liking the game's look made me interested in this but I've looked at a few vids and god does the game really look like it has a lot of those cringe indie game content walls relating to weird as frick puzzles and things that you will miss 9.99/10 times out of ten without a guide.
That and media like this tends to have horribly written endings and character arcs where everyone dies just because "muh morality play", its the thing I hate in stories the most.
Can anons comment on this?
My comment is that you are mindbroken beyond belief and should play video games or go watch some footage instead of asking a thread like this about it
It's more like a triple-A indie game, but it's an actual indie developer so it has some quirks here and there. I played it before some quality of life patches were introduced, so it should be even more smooth sailing from here on.
I think HEALTH is a late addition to this game and the song isn't even included in the actual game. The music is a mix of its own thing and a nice selection of recognizeable (royalty-free) melancholic classical music.
Just go into this while ignoring the fan base. They're irrelevant to the actual experience, save for a few laughs.
I did play it a few months ago. I lost interest after reaching Rotfront. I still have it on my desktop, so I'll probably finish it someday. How much is there left?
I think you need to be a german industrial music fan to understand this game truly.
I reeks of it.
one of the best indie games ever made
that being said, death to all trannies
Didn't you play the game.
They're saying they're decomposing already.
Just like you are.
Good game the nowhere section was disturbing
>yet another troonalis discord spam thread
You know what I hate a lot about the game? The fact Elster can infinitely try to keep her promise and save Ariane.
There's no tension, no matter how many times you frick up and die, you'll just respawn, it's a somewhat meta aspect of it that's absolute bullshit, and while it's supposed to show how much Elster loves Ariane and how strong she is, there is nothing more strong to me than having one opportunity and fricking it up than being able to redo over and over without any challenge or changes.
>t. OP of prevous thread
Also, #9 for January 2023 vidya ratings? Frick sake Ganker.
For the people who wished SIGNALIS was better, now you know why:
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/664058237/#q664065639
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/664058237/#664068627