I do, and I wish I wouldn't
too much slog even with downscaling everything
But character builder is better than in anything I can remember
Why are characters (and some companions) so much more interesting and multifaceted than most BG3 characters?
I also can't name many BG3 characters that stuck with me or which I like.
>start game >immediately met with tons of npcs I can't kill, ignore, or tell to permanently frick off >keep playing >soon the entire game is filled with people like this >reach the very end of the game >only now am I allowed to role play and do what I want in the last hour of the game
Correct, Owlcat games aren't really RPGs. They don't give freedom to the player. Having lots of options in the level up menu is a small part of actual gameplay freedom, and Owlcat fails.
>dude check out all these class options >yeah I'm playing monk dip / sword saint dip / mutagen dip bro, my build is unique and rocks
Specific example: How the Druid Grove situation resolves >let the tieflings start a war with the druids >let the druids seal the grove >let the tiefling child die and kagha get assassinated >let the tiefling child live >permutations of above: side with kagha, let halsin banish kagha, expose kagha as shadow druid >permutations of above: kill shadow druids or redeem kagha >side with minthara and kill the grove >permutation to above: side with minthara but then betray her at the grove, starting a huge battle >permutations to above: avoid the tieflings entirely, never talk to a single one, and proceed into act 2 without ever entering the grove either via the Creche or the Underdark
And every one of these permutations (I'm still missing some) has different voiced cutscenes. And you can create endless variations of these by killing NPCs that you want to
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[...] >start game >immediately met with tons of npcs I can't kill, ignore, or tell to permanently frick off >keep playing >soon the entire game is filled with people like this >reach the very end of the game >only now am I allowed to role play and do what I want in the last hour of the game
Frick this bethesda tier "rpg."
What RPGs are filled with NPCs that you can kill, ignore or tell to frick off? I want to play those.. and don't give me Divinity Original Sin 2 where the NPCs that I kill just comes back to life later in the story.
No, you cannot. You are stuck with Anevia for a long time and there is nothing you can do about it. This also applies to other companions; you are stuck with the sassy black paladin for quite some time
>nooo i can’t ignore the story of a specific campaign that i chose to play and go off and do something completely different!!
is this what you do when you play tabletop campaigns? you sit down at the table and immediately turn into a petulant moron who refuses to engage with anything the DM presents you with?
I do, and I wish I wouldn't
too much slog even with downscaling everything
But character builder is better than in anything I can remember
Why are characters (and some companions) so much more interesting and multifaceted than most BG3 characters?
I also can't name many BG3 characters that stuck with me or which I like.
After they pulled that shit with spyware no.
It does not matter that they removed it.
For me this situation was a burned bridge.
>For me this situation was a burned bridge.
I'm not trying to defend them, but that's kind of unreasonable.
So even if they didn't do anything bad like that for several years and released several games without any controversy you would still hold them over it until eternity?
Nearly every single studio/publisher frick-ed over the players hard in greedy ways. Even Nips do that, not just western studios/publishers like EA and shit.
Wait, isn't this the game that just got shit on for letting advertisers scan your computer?
>Owlcat apologizes within 24 hours after adding Appflyer malware to WOTR
"Hey guys. Thank you all for the feedback, we hear you loud and clear, and apologize for all the outrage caused. Honestly, it was deserved.
The change has been reverted. The third party app will be removed, all data already collected - wiped, and the old version of EULA reinstated with a hotfix within nearest 24h."
Why are characters (and some companions) so much more interesting and multifaceted than most BG3 characters?
I also can't name many BG3 characters that stuck with me or which I like.
Lol. atleast Owlcat let me reject Daeran in a friendly way and not just give me two options one being about fricking and the other being a butthole toward Gale
You either didn't play the game or went into it reading shit spread by schizos on the internet.
She's not a troony, she's genderbent.
You don't know anything about it until late into the game, and it's gated behind a very difficult dialogue check.
>it's joke! Larian is a master comedian >it's not gay that male companion hits on you, you should turn them down aggressively again and again,
someone should make a bingo of Lariangay cope
Owlcat actually manages to salvage Paizo's garbage, whereas Larian are HANDED Baldur's Gate on a silver platter and the best they can do with it is SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
what posses someone to say this?say what you want about Owlcat but there writing is decent and is infinitely better than whatever Larian or even obsidian shits out nowadays
they hated him because he told the truth >poor ESL translation >characters just exposition dump you with walls of text >game railraods you with LGBT allies, you aren't allowed to attack or dismiss them until the very end of the game
and why would you attack Anevia for? and besides turning him and his orc lover into a Undead, turning him into a men with timeline bs and just making him 42% by killing the orcess is way better than "i don't like you, die!"
9 months ago
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>Why would you want the freedom to do something the developers didn't intend? No, the developers want you to be stuck with the troony so she is invincible and you can't attack her
Point proven. No player freedom
9 months ago
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>if I hyperbole enough maybe someone will think I'm right
9 months ago
Anonymous
>if i deflect enough maybe someone will think I'm right
You can't attack Anevia. You aren't free to do so.
Nah Regill is the only well written companion in wotr. Similarly Lae'zel and Astarion are the only good companions in bg3. Evil companions are almost always the best because writing a compelling evil companion intrinsically requires the writer to use his brain.
Not really, him making you coom every time you see him BTFO someone because of how cool he is doesn't make him automatically well written, let alone a good one
>Similarly Lae'zel and Astarion are the only good companions in bg3
give me a qrd on these two. Astarion looks like Daeran but 70% more gayer somehow and Lazel just looks like 1:1 copy of Wenduag down to the same ugly face and attitude. are they okay companion if i decided to play as a good guy?
>badly written
explain how and why they are badly written
Nta but the problem with owlcat writing is that it's verbose and not in an in-universe way that makes sense like it did in infinity engine games. Its verbose in a very sophomoric way, a teenagers first attempt at writing. There are so many instances of long strings of adjectives, using multiple metaphors to basically say the same thing.
Other than that the writing is pretty much only dialogue, there is very little for the player to infer or speculate around for instance questgiving, which happens much like an inexperienced DM would do. Its a lot of "Hello commander [loredump], so you must do xyz in that order". I exaggerate, but thats what it comes down to...
9 months ago
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Owlcat games always came across as being written like those "I actually have a high IQ" fedora posters. Just being overly wordy for the sake of it as if it was their first time holding a thesaurus in their lives.
The primary purpose of the dialogue feels like it's just trying to circle jerk the players intelligence instead of actually saying anything meaningful, y'know?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>reddit spacing >calls anyone else a fedora poster
You need to go back.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>reddit spacing
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This meme is shit my man.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Calling out reddit spacing is the ultimate newbie filter and it's always funny when you gays fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
9 months ago
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>reddit spacing
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This meme is shit my man.
>this is what newbie tourists believe
9 months ago
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>tourists have been here for 7 years already >"tourists"
kek
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Nta but the problem with owlcat writing is that it's verbose and not in an in-universe way that makes sense like it did in infinity engine games. Its verbose in a very sophomoric way, a teenagers first attempt at writing. There are so many instances of long strings of adjectives, using multiple metaphors to basically say the same thing.
Other than that the writing is pretty much only dialogue, there is very little for the player to infer or speculate around for instance questgiving, which happens much like an inexperienced DM would do. Its a lot of "Hello commander [loredump], so you must do xyz in that order". I exaggerate, but thats what it comes down to...
Also picrel
9 months ago
Anonymous
>woman PC
Yep, troony post.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao, I remember you. The same screenshots, every fricking time. Frick off back to RPGcodex.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And not a single counterargument
9 months ago
Anonymous
How's Codex coping with the shitty plot and pozz in BG3? Surely, as fans of the orginal games, they must be up in arms about how the game shits on those, right?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not the person you were responding to, and I don't care about your opinions about the writing. You haven't played the game, you have only seen the writing by cherrypicked screenshots.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>cherrypicked screenshots
Then surely you will provide screenshots of good writing in the game, right anon?
9 months ago
Anonymous
NTA, but everyone here knows you would never acknowlege it.
Most of the shit writing I think is legit a result of Paizo, because RT is so radically different from the Pathfinder games it's almost suspicious. The only thing that stuck around are the dumb [Attack] Die you!! options to random strangers
>Why are characters (and some companions) so much more interesting and multifaceted than most BG3 characters?
BG3 companion stories are prime examples of THAT DnD first time for everyone session
WotR companions at same time are good and fitting into campaign story. They are not sort of chosen ones that somehow are lvl1, they are slightly above average people that do they job and don't mind to follow the PC
It makes story interesting too, since they tend to be more realistic, camp banter also gets better instead of BG3 forcing every companion to have an opinion on the event that just happened
If I suddenly dropped my pants a d jumped on Nocticula would I get instantly incinerated with 10d6 negative levels or would she aprove the boldness and let me frick her?
>For me this situation was a burned bridge.
I'm not trying to defend them, but that's kind of unreasonable.
So even if they didn't do anything bad like that for several years and released several games without any controversy you would still hold them over it until eternity?
Nearly every single studio/publisher frick-ed over the players hard in greedy ways. Even Nips do that, not just western studios/publishers like EA and shit.
I argued that holding it over them forever is moron.
Only women or dwarfs are seethe that much. If you disagree then I hope you killed Arue, Wendu, Galfrey etc. because they also either frick you over or were never paid for their crimes.
Yes I probably would.
While flawed my view is this: >If they tried it once they will try it again once everyone will forget.
If they genuinely learn from this thing and never do this shit again? Kudos for them, but I will still avoid them.
I can be a pedantic moron who will easily ditch a game once devs do something that "pisses"me off.
I genuinely ditched Payday2 for good after they introduces EOS. Even though it was my 2nd most played game on steam. Reason? I dont like epic and im trying to boycott them.
>Owlcuck games will never reach the success of Larian.
Gods, I wish not.
Owlcat becoming as big and popular would lead to safer writing, less based writing, and them selling out.
Nah. Looks boring. Also majority of companions are evil aligned, so the game is for edgelords. I'd sooner try those Wasteland games for the western setting.
>majority of companions are evil aligned >so the game is for edgelords
Brainlet take.
>Arueshalae - CN - can become CG or CE >Camellia - CE >Daeran - NE >Ember - NG >Greybor - N >Lann - LG >Nenio - N >Regill - LE >Seelah - LG >Sosiel - NG >Wenduag - NE - can become N >Woljif - CN
he most certainly is. he's literally the definition of a narcissistic, selfish hedonist. he says point blank at one point 'frick the world as long as i have my parties in my mansions'
he's the classic spoiled and self-centered noble. people are there for his amusement and he doesn't care who he hurts or kills in the process, like those guards who got murked during his fake kidnapping.
he is evil. remember that story where he tells you he faked his kidnapping and blow the brains out of them using the other?
he's the classic spoiled and self-centered noble. people are there for his amusement and he doesn't care who he hurts or kills in the process, like those guards who got murked during his fake kidnapping.
he learned healing powers solely because his frickfest orgies got so wild that there would be fatalities and he didnt want his lawful good relatives to shut them down
Can't these lariangays go pick fights with the shitposters in their own threads? Like I get that it's hard to deal with genuine criticisms of bg3 now that the honeymoon phase is ending but that's no reason to seethe in owlcat threads.
People shit on bg3 companion for being thirsty but Wenduag and Lann is the same too. b***h can't stop throwing signs at me that she wants to fug and Lann is one awkward guy . and lets not even talk about Sosiel "painting" that reveal that half of Ganker just wants to be fricked by a black guy
None of it happened to me since:
1. I'm not picking Wenduag over Lann
2. I'm not playing as a woman
3. I don't care about gay characters
Sound to me like you're projecting.
regardless of what you may think. some companion in Wotr are just as thristy and horny as the bg3 ones. Daeran, Wenduag and even Lann immediately try to jump on your dick/vegana as soon as act 3 starts. Arue and camellia somewhat have a very slowburn romance all things considered
>some companion in Wotr are just as thristy and horny as the bg3 ones >try to jump on your dick/vegana as soon as act 3 starts
You just owned yourself. In BG3 it takes like three camp interactions to frick someone. How is that even remotely similar?
Getting to act 3 might take you 20-30 hours of gameplay.
Regardless what YOU might think, you're plainly wrong.
Also, everyone in BG 3 is bisexual and open to threesomes with chracters they like. Also, there are unromancable characters in your party which places is miles above Larian in terms of party composition and writing. Keep coping.
in 45 hours i only fricked the lae'zel chick eho is combatsexual and kissed the red tiefling. explored every inch of the map and exhausted every dialogue. maybe your game bugged or something
>some companion in Wotr are just as thristy and horny as the bg3 ones
You've already defeated your own point, ESL. Each wotr companion has their own particular pacing to their romance arc, making the companion writing already better than bg3s. They also have their own sexual orientation, and even arcs separate from the player fricking them, elevating them even further. They all approach romance differently because they're characters first and not just dolls for the player to pleasure themselves with.
>Lann is straight, so you're either a woman who wouldn't really mind all that much a guy is hitting on you or a troony looking to live out his lesbian fantasy in which case your opinion doesn't matter anyway >unlike with Gale you have to ask Sosiel to paint you
Cope, lariangay.
Like how are you Black folk so delusional
Owlcat writing is below larian writing which is quite the accomplishment
, just frick off to your shadowheart generals already.
i've never played a crpg much less know anything about pathfinder, i've looked at some videos but best i've found is some really early stuff to start with
Learning the system is part of the joy. I was in your situation 21 years ago when I first played NN 1. It's not that difficult. All you need to remember for now is that big numbers are good.
>Pathfinder
Thanks now when I try to play another RPG first thing I think about is "Diviner is just as broken?"
Literally can't play anything but Wizards now anywhere. I look at martials in my party same way I used to look at zombie skeletons. I literally can't consider non-casters as human beings anymore.
>Pic
Unfortunately thats not how it works in practice.
I tried playing martials and only good build I could do is Saint Sword with 2 levels of Instinct Barb for 3 Stats to AC to compensate for STR dual-wielding.
That build CAN match caster but thats literally it. Anything but that is suboptimal because its forced to take shatter defence while Magus gets touch attacks.
So best martial is a GISH. With MAGIC. >You need to stack initiative or you Dex is worthless >You can't wear armor or enemy "touches" you >You need protective luck or Ghoul paralyzes you with his 20 and your Dex stops working
VS
>Anything in the room that didn't throw 20 dies in 1 cast and you have 3 per turn.
NTA but this misguided tribalism is betrayed by the game systems. Only applicable to pf2e and even then I wouldn't rule out summoner or optimized druid or a Harm Machine cleric making a cutlet out of a martial either through endurance (the former two) or via nukes (the latter)
In pf1e, 3.5 and 5e caster supremacy is a very real phenomena
Either way, as I've said this sort of ire is misguided because it's a collaborative type of ordeal
I love my beautiful mother. Her name is Areelu Vorlesh, and she is a powerful witch and famous moonshiner from Sarkoris. One day, I will help her fulfill her promise.
>RTWP >no player freedom >unfinished mythic paths >broken, horrible DLC >game was released with countless bugs, one of the most buggy games ever released >crusader system >trash mobs >even more pozzed than Larian
WOTR sucks
>RTWP >no player freedom >unfinished mythic paths >broken, horrible DLC >game was released with countless bugs, one of the most buggy games ever released >crusader system >trash mobs >even more pozzed than Larian
WOTR sucks
The combat encounters aren't designed around turn-based, because WOTR is filled with endless trash mobs. The tutorial dungeon of WOTR (water temple) has more combat encounters than an entire act of BG3
>can switch between both modes on the fly >still b***hes when chooses to waste time in turn based while mopping up trash mobs
Literally braindead moronic.
9 months ago
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>mopping up trash mobs
This shouldn't be in the game in the first case. Owlcattle are so buckbroken that they can't imagine an RPG without endless trash-mobs
>Stacking pre-buffs and then doing nothing while you mow down trash mobs is GOOD COMBAT!
It's not good combat.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't play the game.
9 months ago
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I played the game and it was unfinished, buggy garbage >Mounted combat was buggy and broken for multiple years post-release >the crusader system >50% of class features did not work or were bugged >Stretch goal mythic paths were unfinished >Dogshit horrible DLC >Pozzed worse than any other game >No player freedom, can't attack NPCs or steal freely >Crusader system >Crusader system
Owlcat is an embarrassing developer. WOTR still has bugs left over from Kingmaker.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry troony, you're not fooling anyone.
9 months ago
Anonymous
why are there trash mob fights in the first place?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Because they can be thematic?
Making every fight be against a small but elite group of enemies gets boring quickly.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I love pre-buffing and fighting endless trash mobs because >it's thematic
fricking lol. rtwp is just straight garbage
9 months ago
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>pre-buffing for trash fights
Sounds like a skill issue. Then again, we all know you didn't play the game.
Why does Owlcat get a pass for being pozzed? I will never understand why it's completely ignored that they have troony and gay propaganda in their games.
>Why does Larian get a pass for being pozzed? I will never understand why it's completely ignored that they have troony and gay propaganda in their games.
>Can anyone explain please?
there's also other dialogue earlier in the game which hints at Anevia's identity not being the original one. which is completely fricking obvious
Damn gotcha, so an off the beaten path companion side quest character is a troon.
Wow that's far more egregious than a companion you're required to have in your party that you can't kill off
9 months ago
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>Have in your party
Confirmed to have never played the game.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>a companion you're required to have in your party that you can't kill off
Anevia isn't a companion.
Owlbeartocat trannies seething
Larian won, trannies lost
9 months ago
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9 months ago
Anonymous
>a companion you're required to have in your party that you can't kill off
Anevia isn't a companion.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>shitposter hasn't played the game >hasn't even spent a minute fact checking the shit he's posting
Ganker at it's best
Owlcat fans are RTWP diehards who like RTWP because they grew up with it. Not because RTWP is good. Therefore, they will blindly defend any RTWP game
WOTR was one of the most buggy games ever released, and was unfinished. They did not care, they rabidly defended it because it's a RTWP game. This is the most truthful answer you'll get and the one they hate the most
God are you fricking annoying. You've made your already rebuked point numerous times already, and you keep at it. The mark of a paid shill, 5 cents per post.
I will, getting into cprgs after having them on the backlog for over a decade.
Current planned order is
>Planescape >Fallout >I'm here >Fallout 2 >BG1 >BG2 >Pillars of Eternity >Divinity, no fricking clue how I'm supposed to tackle these though >Pathfinder 1 >Pathfinder 2 >BG3
Any recommendations?
Anything else I should check out?
Particularly with Divinity
with BG3 success think we'll get a Higher production values with pathfinder 3? i just want to be able to zoom in the camera to third person like Doa/Kotor
BG3's success really mindbroke Owlcucks, huh? Half this thread is just them seething over BG3 in one way or another when the average cRPG fan enjoys both games.
Why do you so fervently defend only games made by Owlcat and for free no less? I'll never understand this. >criticize Pathfinder >they immediately bring up BG3 instead of addressing the criticism
Are Pathfinder games truly perfect in your eyes that the only possible explanation for why someone doesn't like a particular element to the game is because they're shitposting? That's not a very healthy viewpoint, anon.
>op makes wotr thread >trannies immidiately bring up bg3 >hurr durr gb3 mindbroke you
Btw the only people using the word "mindbreak" are reddit tourists, so frick off back to your shitty website
the first post is a seething larian tard who started seething immediately about Owlchads lmao[...] talk about obessessd and living rent free in the heads of bear sex 3 cattles
>instantly brings up BG3 instead of being able to answer a basic question
Like clockwork.
Oh wow so they just wrote the main quest in a way that works even if certain characters are dead and that's somehow groundreaking 10/10 according to troons
I got filtered by the character creation, I don't know anything about DnD and I don't want to have to spend 30 minutes reading up on muh lore to know that I'm not making terrible decisions.
>idk how pathfinder build autism works
No different from DND. The "problem" is that you have to spend an hour reading through all the classes and subclasses on the character creation scene to know what works together and what doesn't.
I hate redditors and discordians who are itt rn
i don't care that you think punting someone off a ledge or walk in on some monster fricking is good gameplay
i like builds and I like Pathfinder
the threads used to be comfy and now they're filled to to brim with mentally ill Larian trolls
well yes. the amount of classes and archetypes in this game is cool. the fact that you can make a Frankenstein build work is the best part about the pathfinder system and this game. i can't say the same for Bg3 tho.
the first post is a seething larian tard who started seething immediately about Owlchads lmao[...] talk about obessessd and living rent free in the heads of bear sex 3 cattles
>op makes wotr thread >trannies immidiately bring up bg3 >hurr durr gb3 mindbroke you
Btw the only people using the word "mindbreak" are reddit tourists, so frick off back to your shitty website
and why would you attack Anevia for? and besides turning him and his orc lover into a Undead, turning him into a men with timeline bs and just making him 42% by killing the orcess is way better than "i don't like you, die!"
>They don't give freedom to the player
What fricking freedom did BG 3 give you? You can be a saint, ot a murderous psycho. That is all.
Owlshart bros... not like this... not. Like. This.
>Larian writing
"You did not ask but you received.Not all boons are prayed for. Not all curses deserved" >Owlcat "writing"
"I must part with everything demonic in me, but Desna? Please allow me to keep my lovely beautiful irresistable... wings?"
You idiots make it way too easy.
Just like Pathfinder games where you have no narrative choice and have to follow the designed path, these threads always follow the designed path of owlcucks responding to every single bait.
They can't help it because they can't comprehend actually having a choice to ignore the bait because that is how their beloved game is structured.
>in a role playing game you can... Role Play!? *brain implodes*
The absolute state of owlcat fan boys
holy shit. These people will look you dead in the eyes, tell you bg3 has bad writing, and then with the same breath praise wotr for its writing. Unbelievable. These people really are the guys behind 90% of the bg3 hate spam
>Owlcattle thread >"Dude check out my mutagen monk sword saint." >"Awesome build bro." >larian superchads arrive and shit all over the ESLs >Basic facts about WOTR (buggy, unfinished, shit combat, shit writing) make the ESL Owlcattle go seething with rage
Every thread, every time, without fail. Owlfats lost.
Because they don't shove it in your face. She doesn't tell you her life story. If you ask why she tells you to frick off and you have to wait until chapter 5 and pass a 50 DC check for it tell you it's a troony. BG3 has literal drag queens. Frick off.
Yes, you have to go out of your way to find the troony content.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>our troony content is fine because they're deceptive about it!
If anything, that is even worse. At least BG3 is up front pozzed so I can avoid it outright.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yass sister, being pozzed is fine as long as you are in somebody's face about it!
9 months ago
Anonymous
>they're deceptive about it!
By not telling you? By not shoving it in your face? Really? THIS is what you're going with?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>By not telling you?
>owlcattle learns the definition of basic words and ideas
9 months ago
Anonymous
Now you know where the praise for the writing comes from in owlkeks lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
Now you know where the praise for the writing comes from in owlkeks lmao
don't start samegayging, moron
9 months ago
Anonymous
have a nice day.
>our troony content is fine because they're deceptive about it!
If anything, that is even worse. At least BG3 is up front pozzed so I can avoid it outright.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>my pozz is fine because they smear it in my face 24/7
average Lariangay
Any time you have to shit on another game to talk about how much you enjoy a game, you're too far gone.
I like both larian games and Pathfinder games for different reasons but the fanbases of both will shit on me for it.
wotr is better at making the player feel moments of power, which is my heroin
bg3 is better at being a boring bland ass low level nothingburger
frick people who think low level is fun. its not. give me high universe shattering stakes over 'the local druid grove is being bullied by goblins' any day.
>installs the auto-buff mod and does nothing while fighting trash mobs >yes this is great, I am "feeling moments of power"
WOTR is a shit videogame for ESLs
only mod i ever used was removing carry weight limitations because my OCD demands that i pick up every single thing that isn't nailed down. once someone comes up with one for bg3 ill use one there too, lol
>watching autoattacking sprites makes autists feel powerful
That tracks, I guess
>he thinks any crpg is autoattacking with sprites
lol
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/3684558162500170698
It's years after release and there are STILL bugs with spells and features they are trying to fix. How embarassing for Owlcat
BG3 in it's release state is less buggy than WOTR multiple years after release
WOTR was one of the most buggy games ever released. Over half the class features didn't work >mounted combat
didn't work for a very long time >crusader system
bugged beyond all recognition >broken quests, softlocks, save corruption
all present for many months, if not years
i dunno about that there chief, i think you might be exaggerating either the bugginess of wotr on launch or the stability of bg3 on launch or both, just because you like bg3 better and seem to want it to 'win' this silly little war erupting between the two games
>i think you might be exaggerating either the bugginess of wotr on launch
No, it's underexaggerated. WOTR was insanely buggy on launch. Easily the most buggy game I ever played
Can you have a good story in BG3? Can you have good writing in BG3? Can you have a non snowflake companion in BG3? Can you have roleplaying options that aren't just "good" "evil" and "ultraevil" in BG3? Can you have companions that don't instantly try to frick you in BG3?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You thought BG3 didn't let you kill main quest NPCs. Then you deleted the post. You got owned.
9 months ago
Anonymous
[...] >In bg3 you can kill main quest npcs?
An Owlshill post that will live in infamy
I can't wait for homosexuals like you to make a screencap and post it to own homosexuals.
9 months ago
Anonymous
tiresome
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, better than owlcat, yes, yes, only 2 companions try to frick you immediately
He really isn't man, entire systems were completely fricked for multiple months past release and to this day there's still softlocks and save corruptions.
As a person that absolutely hates 3.pf as a tabletop system, I still VASTLY prefer owlcat games to Larian games. At least both Kingmaker and WotR make an effort at a serious narrative, Larian writing is just a string of disconnected teehee macaroni nonsense.
Furthermore, Baldur's Gate was never really that good. BG1 is a turboautistic simulator of lvl1 AD&D 2e, which is by far the least enjoyable way to play, and which is only enjoyed by people who got Stockholm Syndrome from its stupidity in their childhood, and finished the game ten times in a row to cap out their stats because they think giving everyone a bow and casting entangle/web/grease qualifies as 'gameplay'. Now, BG2 is actually passable, but in the grander context of IWD and Torment it's really not that great. Torment is wholly focused on story, and IWD1 is fully focused on a level 1 to 20 crunchy dungeon delving experience, both excelling at their chosen field and being passable in the other. BG2 tries to be everything at once, like your proto-open-world housewife RPG, and it kind of sucks at a whole bunch of it when you take a close look and compare to how the rest of the genre has done it since.
BG3 largely feels like an unfortunate evolution of BG2 in this regard, except it also tries to add yet another lowest common denominator feature in also being a Bioware dating sim. That, to me, is pretty pathetic. I will much rather have something completely autistically elitist like Owlcat games.
>Nenio
agreed, pure reddit + hate owlcat puzzles. Then again, even in their sheer autism and annoyance, owlcat puzzles at basic level of even existing in the game, are far more genuinely complicated and challenging than anything you will ever encounter in BG3. >Linzi
I have to disagree with you there, because someone thought that Nenio would be cool, but Linzi is written to be lame as hell. She is the quintessential arthoe; a shoddy bard who makes a much better rogue. The game very deliberately sticks Linzi onto you, makes her impossible to be rid of, and makes her a somewhat annoying character. That's because Linzi is the soul of the game, the whole thing is framed as the book she is writing. Just like the game itself, Linzi is a tryhard moron who is really trying their best to please you but they have no idea how exactly to do it. It's a rough ride and sometimes you love to hate her, but she'll still give you 200 hours of content.
(Oh, and it doesn't help that BG3 takes a huge shit on every single asset it uses from BG2. Why have Jaheira at all if you're going to write her into a completely different person?)
>Owlcat apologizes within 24 hours after adding Appflyer malware to WOTR
"Hey guys. Thank you all for the feedback, we hear you loud and clear, and apologize for all the outrage caused. Honestly, it was deserved.
The change has been reverted. The third party app will be removed, all data already collected - wiped, and the old version of EULA reinstated with a hotfix within nearest 24h."
they expect goycattle like Lariangays to slurp it up but didn't know Owlcatgays have higher than average IQ and knows how to read and use their computer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppsFlyer
AppsFlyer is a SaaS mobile marketing analytics and attribution platform, headquartered in San Francisco, California.
I really hope that all the people who picked up BG3 as their babby's first RPG to play with their girlfriend in coop will actually care enough to play previous entries in the genre, and thus eventually come around to understand and appreciate the sheer scale of what Owlcat games actually managed to accomplish.
'Scale' is about anything but gameplay, or how many gigabytes the game has, or how many mountains you can climb. It's about cohesion. At the end of both owlcat games, you truly feel like everything you have done over 200 hours, though annoying at times, has been a part of a greater whole and you have walked a long road to stand there at the end, watching the credits roll. It is an accomplishment.
Finishing BG3 gives you the feeling that you just finished watching a 200 episode shounen anime and you don't really know anymore what the point of everything was, but at least the flashing lights were pretty and it was funny when the bugbear fricked the ogre.
>At the end of both owlcat games, you truly feel like everything you have done over 200 hours, though annoying at times, has been a part of a greater whole and you have walked a long road to stand there at the end, watching the credits roll. It is an accomplishment.
Kingmaker? Yes. Wrath of the righteous? Frick no
By the time you finish wotr you are completely burned out in their completely terrible and frustrating bullshit and you are simply glad it ended. Assuming you didn't drop it before.
Cute Valarie. but to answer your question they won't. I occasionally ask my friend to play old games like fallout 1 and 2 and he tell me that the outdated graphics is too ugly and clunky to play with.
>will actually care enough to play previous entries in the genre, and thus eventually come around to understand and appreciate the sheer scale of what Owlcat games actually managed to accomplish.
Baldurs gate 2 has better gameplay, a better story, and better graphics than a game made two decades later. If anything playing bg1 and 2 makes people realize how shit most rpgs are
If you genuinely think BG1 has good gameplay, you must be drinking so much nostalgia juice it's coming out of your ears; especially when IWD exists that does the exact same thing but not moronic.
>will actually care enough to play previous entries in the genre, and thus eventually come around to understand and appreciate the sheer scale of what Owlcat games actually managed to accomplish.
Baldurs gate 2 has better gameplay, a better story, and better graphics than a game made two decades later. If anything playing bg1 and 2 makes people realize how shit most rpgs are
Honestly, having been playing AD&D 2e exclusively for six years now, and refusing to accept any other edition of dee en dee, it's insane to me how bad a job the games do of translating the system in regards to what the old games could be and aren't.
- most pressingly, variant crit rules (missing limbs, lasting wounds, but most of all NEGATIVE HP and not instantly dying and having to reload when you lose 4 hit points out of four)
- martial combat actions (since Charge does not exist, you can just fricking run from everyone and shoot them with a bow as soon as you get any movement speed bonus because running doesn't exist either)
- the entire fricking Non-Weapon Proficiency system - this is in IWD2 in 3.5's shitty version, why is it not in the previous game, when it's an attribute-based skill system that actually works? Surely it would not be hard to code? Could it be that they just did not want you to have a personalized experience? It also results in a whole bunch of kits being completely moronic (berserker, kensai) because the roleplay drawbacks do not exist. They just did not think of it back in the day darn even though other RPG writers did.
- potion miscibility rules (this goes a long way to not make the system completely broken)
- concentration, which in fact originates in 2e (this goes a long way to not make the system not completely broken)
- just a whole bunch of shit in the game working in completely insane ways (One example for all - Charm Person should improve reaction modifier, which -exists- in BG1, based on charisma why the frick does Charm Person mind control people to attack their friends?)
Having defended Owlcat games in this thread,
the amount of bookkeeping required for actually playing Pathfinder is really obnoxious and makes it impractical. Ironically enough, Owlcat games working as well as they do as videogames showcase how completely fricking horrible the system actually is to play for flesh and bones human beings.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't obnoxious, you are just casual.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It is
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are
9 months ago
Anonymous
Something being complicated is not a sign of intelligent design. The word "convoluted" exists as a descriptor for a reason. The greatest minds of humanity had collectively agreed that intricacy by itself is not a virtue. But surely you and your bloated system that requires having a fricking degree (which is worthless by the way) in its studies before you start playing it, know better.
9 months ago
Anonymous
RPGs aren't for you, read a fricking book if you don't actually want to play the game you casual moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You can keep repeating that word as much as you like, it won't magically transfigure reality. I can guarantee I've completed more personal challenges in videogames for the sake of the enjoyment that it brings, than you had ever considered.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm a harcore gamer but reading and keeping track of stats is too hard. Owlcat please take out all of the gameplay and make it into a movie for me.
Pathfinder exists because people like you ruined DnD. Its literally not for you, go try to ruin somebody else's hobby.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Strawmanning
You've gone and turned fricking hysterical because I mocked your autistic build lego system that has nothing to it other than it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, PF1 class tierlists with wide breths of classes and feats banned exist for a reason. The system assumes you are cheesing as hard as you possibly can. Cheesing as hard as you can requires you to stack a whole bunch of +1. The same way you do in WotR. Few people enjoy seeing 1d20+5+4+2+1+1+1+1 on their character sheet, and fewer still remember that now that they are no longer in a moderate forest but an arctic one, the +2 no longer applies.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There is no point without the modifiers, stop trying to take the game out of RPGs.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>so Haste is already on, right >am I in point blank range >did he cast Bless yet >is Inspire Courage (3 rounds) still on >am I flanking >is my magus/paladin weapon enchant still on >can this technically be considered my favored enemy >oh he cast Prayer? >oh the other guy cast Prayer >am I Shaken? Is GM keeping this in mind for me >I guess I could cast Divine Power... >wait what do you mean attribute damage
it gets very old very very fast
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Anon, PF1 class tierlists with wide breths of classes and feats banned exist for a reason.
it's funny to see people treat PF 1 like it's some kind of public tournament. what happens in your game is on your terms. >The system assumes you are cheesing as hard as you possibly can.
you have two options: they players have the power, or the writers. 2e is the writers saying you're playing in our sandbox now, go frick yourself. players' cheesing is too hard to account for and ruins the "balance". but who cares if you cheese in your own fricking house? well, as it turns out, Paizo does. also, 90% of book keeping complaints can be resolved if people would just fricking learn the damn game. that takes time and experience. the worst thing is Paizo were too damn proud to take what actually worked from 4e DnD and improve it like they did with 3.5e.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's a real shame that 4e missed out on its own videogame, being itself often called videogamey. Honestly, it would have been even more barren than BG3 and Solasta are with 5e, but that could just lend itself to a more narrative experience. God knows Torment didn't need to have half the gameplay complexity it had, and it didn't have much.
I like BG3 a lot, but WotR (and BG1+2) still reign supreme for me. After Larian's success (and if Rogue Trader ends up well), I hope publishers see the potential in cRPGs and someone drops a bag of money on Mishulin's lap for a big budget new PF game.
Honestly it's better if CRPGs remain a niche genre made by people that love the genre. It becoming the next big thing chased by AAA studios will just lead to absolute dogshit games.
Can you imagine a CRPG made by modern day Bioware?
It bugs me so much that here isn't some in-game "script" for planning out spells. Like, press one button and your casters will cast the pre-planned spells.
Spending that much time casting the same spells over and over is so tedious.
>Bone armor >Long arm >Bull's strength >Cat's grace >Eagle's splendor >Fox's cunning >Owl's wisdom >Vampiric blade >Power of death (extended) >Haste (extended) >Resist fire >Resist frost >Resist acid >Resist lightning >Resist sonic >Protection from fire >Protection from frost >Protection from acid >Protection from lightning >Protection from sonic >Firebrand (extended) >Geniekind (Djinni) (extended) >Geniekind (Efreeti) (extended) >Geniekind (Marid) (extended) >Geniekind (Shaitan) (extended) >Legendary Proportions >Protection from spells >Mind blank >Greater angelic aspect >Eyes of the Bodak (extended) >Dragonkind III (Blue Dragon) >Greater heroism >Sea mantle >displacement (extended) >Foresight >Ice form >Fire form >iron body >Greater Invisibility (Extended) >Blink (Extended) >Vampiric shield (Extended, Empowered) >Transformation (Extended)
yep, it's pathfindin' time!
As someone that hasn't played these games, I'm starting to understand why they're 200 hours of that's what encounters end up being like. Odd thing to brag about.
As much as i like pf most encounter on core difficulty are like that. it's really a none issue at early lvls but in later lvls if you don't have buffs to get that sweet +4 to your ab you will be gimping your self hard. that's why i don't recommend this game unless you are ready to suffer with the build autism of this game.
Those are joke posts, you do not actually have enough spell slots to cast all that shit, you are largely adjusting yourself to what you're fighting in the area.
>Want to cross a gulch >Check is well within my athletics >Fail and put entire party on deaths door >Need to play the rest of the quest one shot able with no heals now or save scum every roll check >Cant just be comfy pld need to spec into 10 kinds of other homosexualry to enjoy playing >Have to rest every couple of fights to cast magic because there is no mp in homosexual dnd
Core DnD is kinda fricking gay but maybe the story is good?? >None of the main characters are likable >Vampire twink is annoying >Witch child is legally moronic >40 hours in and evil starbucks white woman has nothing more to her story since the start of chapter one might not see more for another 40 hours >Rouge with israelite fro who looks like a fat girls husbando insert runs like a b***h when the shit pops off with the gargoyles >My Trusted spymaster is a lesbian married to an orc and looks like a troony self insert >Have to play heroes of might and magic dollar store edition to advance the story >Feels like I need to google every other quest so I don't miss out on a mythic path because I ain't coming back for another 100 hours of this train wreck.
I just took over drez and I think I've had my fill of this fricking game does it get better or is it just more of the same shit.
my response? >None of the main characters are likable >Vampire twink is annoying >Witch child is legally moronic >40 hours in and evil starbucks white woman has nothing more to her story since the start of chapter one might not see more for another 40 hours
I thought he was talking about bg3 lol
>the best and most girls in the PF games are demonic in nature and evil to varying degrees, and either were evil previously, or start off as evil when you meet them (Kanerah (+ Kalikke), Nyrrisa, Arue, Wendu, Nocticula, Vellexia, Areelu...) Cam doesn't count, as she fricks off >PF threads are filled with anons who hold favorable views towards succubi and want to have sex with them, no matter the consequences
I'm starting to think the games are a small part of an elaborate plan to indoctrinate people to be more susceptible and complaint to influences of hot, evil demonesses before they take over the Earth.
Cam doesn't count because she isn't evil. Everyone she kills isn't real and deep down she knows this. There is nothing morally wrong with killing NPCs.
Wait so would it be bad to play Pathfinder games as lawful good? Will I miss out on character relationships if they're all varying degrees of evil natures?
no paying pf as a lawful good will not make you miss out on relationships. but be warned that some companions will leave you if you are too evil or too nice.
Darian. I'm pretty sure hes a vampire.
he is a half-angel elf anon. can't you see his portrait?
>I'm starting to think the games are a small part of an elaborate plan to indoctrinate people to be more susceptible and complaint to influences of hot, evil demonesses before they take over the Earth
wtf based.
Can someone explain how the frick is mah boy regill evil? He literally doesn't do a single evil thing in the entire game and his quest ends up with him sacrificing his own honour and reputation to keep the hellknights allied with the coomander for the crusade.
He's only as evil as lann, who isn't considered evil at all. All the other evil characters are literal demon worshippers.
Not evil, they would have been taken and tortured to death by the gargoyles. Also I feel that was the single attempt of the game trying to paint him in a bad light, he never does anything like that again.
He has a streak of excusing convenience with the necessity. The first time you meet him he has his own soldiers executed; and he claims he did it to spare you the hard decision. In truth he did it to spare himself the decision, because he is ethically lazy.
This is basically something Regill does a lot, everytime someone would say 'back up, this is a complicated situation', Regill will suggest the edgiest possible solution, simply because he hates things being complicated.
i have some questions first. >do you want to play good or bad? >do you want to be a arcane caster or divine caster? >what is your favorite class and playstyle?
then you are gonna have a tough time because some mythic path forces you to be evil or good. but if you want to rp as a justifiable bad guy than go Lich. also answer the other two question
The only good path in this game is the swarm. Every single fricking character in this game is either an insufferable writer mouthpiece, a pity party ambassador or just a lolmoronic epic backstabber demon.
I will say one thing for Larian: admist the swirling pool of utmost degenerate behavior you can make Shadowheart into a loving tradwife. Owlcat always drops the ball. While it's very satisfying to make Arue go forth and sin no more the fact she ends up squatting in a shack all alone presumably never seeing you again or only rarely is just fricking moronic. Who knows what they're going to do to my beloved Cassia but it will probably involve her mutating into a frog or a fish and never seeing you again.
For the longest time DOS2 had the 90k as the most played CRPG, second place isn't so bad for a newcomer company that needed kickstarter money to make their games, as opposed to Larian that has been making games for like two decades now
Cope
didn't they put some malware in one of the recent patches
Already removed 🙂
>start game
>immediately met with tons of npcs I can't kill, ignore, or tell to permanently frick off
>keep playing
>soon the entire game is filled with people like this
>reach the very end of the game
>only now am I allowed to role play and do what I want in the last hour of the game
Frick this bethesda tier "rpg."
Correct, Owlcat games aren't really RPGs. They don't give freedom to the player. Having lots of options in the level up menu is a small part of actual gameplay freedom, and Owlcat fails.
>dude check out all these class options
>yeah I'm playing monk dip / sword saint dip / mutagen dip bro, my build is unique and rocks
>They don't give freedom to the player
What fricking freedom did BG 3 give you? You can be a saint, ot a murderous psycho. That is all.
Specific example: How the Druid Grove situation resolves
>let the tieflings start a war with the druids
>let the druids seal the grove
>let the tiefling child die and kagha get assassinated
>let the tiefling child live
>permutations of above: side with kagha, let halsin banish kagha, expose kagha as shadow druid
>permutations of above: kill shadow druids or redeem kagha
>side with minthara and kill the grove
>permutation to above: side with minthara but then betray her at the grove, starting a huge battle
>permutations to above: avoid the tieflings entirely, never talk to a single one, and proceed into act 2 without ever entering the grove either via the Creche or the Underdark
And every one of these permutations (I'm still missing some) has different voiced cutscenes. And you can create endless variations of these by killing NPCs that you want to
What RPGs are filled with NPCs that you can kill, ignore or tell to frick off? I want to play those.. and don't give me Divinity Original Sin 2 where the NPCs that I kill just comes back to life later in the story.
You can tell all companions to frick off at any moment. Who are you complaining about exactly? Anevia/the queen/other ain quest npcs?
No, you cannot. You are stuck with Anevia for a long time and there is nothing you can do about it. This also applies to other companions; you are stuck with the sassy black paladin for quite some time
Yep it's fallout 3 vs new vegas all over again.
>nooo i can’t ignore the story of a specific campaign that i chose to play and go off and do something completely different!!
is this what you do when you play tabletop campaigns? you sit down at the table and immediately turn into a petulant moron who refuses to engage with anything the DM presents you with?
Wait, isn't this the game that just got shit on for letting advertisers scan your computer?
See
yes
I do, and I wish I wouldn't
too much slog even with downscaling everything
But character builder is better than in anything I can remember
Why are characters (and some companions) so much more interesting and multifaceted than most BG3 characters?
I also can't name many BG3 characters that stuck with me or which I like.
Because bg3 is a glorified weg
cool story succ coomer
>succ
That's the Redeemer Queen for you, anon,
kys
Owlcat writing is below larian writing which is quite the accomplishment
Lol. atleast Owlcat let me reject Daeran in a friendly way and not just give me two options one being about fricking and the other being a butthole toward Gale
fricking lol. nothing can be as bad as Larian writing. you Larianshills are pathetic to even defend something like this
an obvious joke is "bad writing"? i played wotr and it threw trannies at me instantly
You either didn't play the game or went into it reading shit spread by schizos on the internet.
She's not a troony, she's genderbent.
You don't know anything about it until late into the game, and it's gated behind a very difficult dialogue check.
>She's not a troony, she's genderbent.
Sounds like cope to me. It's a man who drank a magical troony potion
>its okay that the game forces you to be with a troony because it isn't revealed until later
Owlcuck cope alert! Owlcuck cope alert!
>So mindbroken by trannies he can't tell the difference
Typical shitposter, you don't even play video games.
>um actually, it's a magic troony so it's not pozzed
Owlcuck cope alert
Owlcuck cope alert
Go and play your mind flayer dating simulator, pal. You will achieve nothing here.
Sure you do, bro, sure you do.
i have 500 hours into the game friend, don't pretend I'm some newbie. you're talking about anevia, correct?
You are fricking lying, you stupid Larian shill. There is no way for you to know that Anevia drank the potion until very late in the game.
there's also other dialogue earlier in the game which hints at Anevia's identity not being the original one. which is completely fricking obvious
>it's joke! Larian is a master comedian
>it's not gay that male companion hits on you, you should turn them down aggressively again and again,
someone should make a bingo of Lariangay cope
Owlcat actually manages to salvage Paizo's garbage, whereas Larian are HANDED Baldur's Gate on a silver platter and the best they can do with it is SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
what posses someone to say this?say what you want about Owlcat but there writing is decent and is infinitely better than whatever Larian or even obsidian shits out nowadays
they hated him because he told the truth
>poor ESL translation
>characters just exposition dump you with walls of text
>game railraods you with LGBT allies, you aren't allowed to attack or dismiss them until the very end of the game
>you aren't allowed to attack or dismiss them until the very end of the game
You are not allowed to attack Anevia. The game doesn't let you freely attack NPCs.
Is your post bait or mental moronation? Call it
and why would you attack Anevia for? and besides turning him and his orc lover into a Undead, turning him into a men with timeline bs and just making him 42% by killing the orcess is way better than "i don't like you, die!"
>Why would you want the freedom to do something the developers didn't intend? No, the developers want you to be stuck with the troony so she is invincible and you can't attack her
Point proven. No player freedom
>if I hyperbole enough maybe someone will think I'm right
>if i deflect enough maybe someone will think I'm right
You can't attack Anevia. You aren't free to do so.
HAHAHUOAHUUAHUAUHAHUAUHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Buildfinder has atrocious writing
This, especially when it comes to companions, look at Regil he can be literally described in two words
>Lawful edgy
Nah Regill is the only well written companion in wotr. Similarly Lae'zel and Astarion are the only good companions in bg3. Evil companions are almost always the best because writing a compelling evil companion intrinsically requires the writer to use his brain.
Sir, your onions is showing.
Not really, him making you coom every time you see him BTFO someone because of how cool he is doesn't make him automatically well written, let alone a good one
Right back at you.
Just because you don't like a character, doesn't mean it's badly written.
>Similarly Lae'zel and Astarion are the only good companions in bg3
give me a qrd on these two. Astarion looks like Daeran but 70% more gayer somehow and Lazel just looks like 1:1 copy of Wenduag down to the same ugly face and attitude. are they okay companion if i decided to play as a good guy?
You just described their counterparts, they attract fujos and I can fix her gays who pretend their fetish pandering makes a character good
you just don't like characters potentially being shitty people
Your companions being bad people is not an issue
The fact that they are badly written is
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they are badly written.
Nta but the problem with owlcat writing is that it's verbose and not in an in-universe way that makes sense like it did in infinity engine games. Its verbose in a very sophomoric way, a teenagers first attempt at writing. There are so many instances of long strings of adjectives, using multiple metaphors to basically say the same thing.
Other than that the writing is pretty much only dialogue, there is very little for the player to infer or speculate around for instance questgiving, which happens much like an inexperienced DM would do. Its a lot of "Hello commander [loredump], so you must do xyz in that order". I exaggerate, but thats what it comes down to...
Owlcat games always came across as being written like those "I actually have a high IQ" fedora posters. Just being overly wordy for the sake of it as if it was their first time holding a thesaurus in their lives.
The primary purpose of the dialogue feels like it's just trying to circle jerk the players intelligence instead of actually saying anything meaningful, y'know?
>reddit spacing
>calls anyone else a fedora poster
You need to go back.
>reddit spacing
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This meme is shit my man.
Calling out reddit spacing is the ultimate newbie filter and it's always funny when you gays fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
>this is what newbie tourists believe
>tourists have been here for 7 years already
>"tourists"
kek
You will forever be a tourist, newbie.
>badly written
explain how and why they are badly written
>The fact that they are badly written is
Nice opinion gaytron
why are the companion badly written? I thought they were pretty good aside from Camellia who is just a joke character that is played straight
See
Also picrel
>woman PC
Yep, troony post.
Lmao, I remember you. The same screenshots, every fricking time. Frick off back to RPGcodex.
And not a single counterargument
How's Codex coping with the shitty plot and pozz in BG3? Surely, as fans of the orginal games, they must be up in arms about how the game shits on those, right?
I'm not the person you were responding to, and I don't care about your opinions about the writing. You haven't played the game, you have only seen the writing by cherrypicked screenshots.
>cherrypicked screenshots
Then surely you will provide screenshots of good writing in the game, right anon?
NTA, but everyone here knows you would never acknowlege it.
Impossible.
I think they're both fricking atrocious for different reasons
Most of the shit writing I think is legit a result of Paizo, because RT is so radically different from the Pathfinder games it's almost suspicious. The only thing that stuck around are the dumb [Attack] Die you!! options to random strangers
I have to go.
we bang ok
>Muh Paizo bogeyman
Frick off with this, they had (mostly) free rein on the story
>Why are characters (and some companions) so much more interesting and multifaceted than most BG3 characters?
BG3 companion stories are prime examples of THAT DnD first time for everyone session
WotR companions at same time are good and fitting into campaign story. They are not sort of chosen ones that somehow are lvl1, they are slightly above average people that do they job and don't mind to follow the PC
It makes story interesting too, since they tend to be more realistic, camp banter also gets better instead of BG3 forcing every companion to have an opinion on the event that just happened
Because they're more grounded despite their varied backgrounds.
DSL
I wish the game was fully voiced. How many years away are we from AI to do that shit for us?
could do it now but no one wants to open that pandora's box
more like nobody wants to spend thousands of dollars and manhours on something that'll just be jarring and unimmersive
If I suddenly dropped my pants a d jumped on Nocticula would I get instantly incinerated with 10d6 negative levels or would she aprove the boldness and let me frick her?
Depends on your charisma score.
the former.
BG3 is made by bigots, hence the lack of trans representation in the characters
After they pulled that shit with spyware no.
It does not matter that they removed it.
For me this situation was a burned bridge.
>For me this situation was a burned bridge.
I'm not trying to defend them, but that's kind of unreasonable.
So even if they didn't do anything bad like that for several years and released several games without any controversy you would still hold them over it until eternity?
Nearly every single studio/publisher frick-ed over the players hard in greedy ways. Even Nips do that, not just western studios/publishers like EA and shit.
>would have done it if people didn't throw a huge shitfit
>b-but everyone does it
No.
I argued that holding it over them forever is moron.
Only women or dwarfs are seethe that much. If you disagree then I hope you killed Arue, Wendu, Galfrey etc. because they also either frick you over or were never paid for their crimes.
Yes I probably would.
While flawed my view is this:
>If they tried it once they will try it again once everyone will forget.
If they genuinely learn from this thing and never do this shit again? Kudos for them, but I will still avoid them.
I can be a pedantic moron who will easily ditch a game once devs do something that "pisses"me off.
I genuinely ditched Payday2 for good after they introduces EOS. Even though it was my 2nd most played game on steam. Reason? I dont like epic and im trying to boycott them.
Was never good. Owlcuck games will never reach the success of Larian.
Cope, seethe and dilate Owlgays
>Owlcuck games will never reach the success of Larian.
Gods, I wish not.
Owlcat becoming as big and popular would lead to safer writing, less based writing, and them selling out.
what the frick is safer writing
Just look at BG3
What's your argument here
The writing of owlcat is already the worst in rpgs so I dont see how that could happen
I did. It's awesome
Nah. Looks boring. Also majority of companions are evil aligned, so the game is for edgelords. I'd sooner try those Wasteland games for the western setting.
the only sane way to play those games is a murdering psychopath eradicating degenerate trash
you are supposed to kill them all anon except maybe Regill
>majority of companions are evil aligned
>so the game is for edgelords
Brainlet take.
>Arueshalae - CN - can become CG or CE
>Camellia - CE
>Daeran - NE
>Ember - NG
>Greybor - N
>Lann - LG
>Nenio - N
>Regill - LE
>Seelah - LG
>Sosiel - NG
>Wenduag - NE - can become N
>Woljif - CN
tl;dr 4-5 Good, 3-5 Neutral, 3-5 Evil characters
Isn't Lann LN
Shit, you're right.
Yeah, Lann is LN.
he may as well be LG because of how he acts. a pragmatic goodie two shoe.
>pragmatic good-two shoes
>first thing he proposes to deal with rowdy nobles is handing them all for treason
Okay, moron.
hanging*
thing he proposes to deal with rowdy nobles is handing them all for treason
Seems goodly based to me.
Yep, it's lawful good time.
the non evil companions other than ember are garbage
I don't think Daeran is anything like Neutral Evil despite what the sheet says
he most certainly is. he's literally the definition of a narcissistic, selfish hedonist. he says point blank at one point 'frick the world as long as i have my parties in my mansions'
Sounds very chaotic evil to me. not neutral evil.
Nah he didn't frick and eat the corpses afterwards.
I agree actually, dude is obsessed with freedom, doing what he wants. Prime chaos material
he's the classic spoiled and self-centered noble. people are there for his amusement and he doesn't care who he hurts or kills in the process, like those guards who got murked during his fake kidnapping.
he is evil. remember that story where he tells you he faked his kidnapping and blow the brains out of them using the other?
he learned healing powers solely because his frickfest orgies got so wild that there would be fatalities and he didnt want his lawful good relatives to shut them down
>learned
He is a Oracle anon. he doesn't need to learn anything.
He was actually kidnapped and the Other slaughtered them to protect itself
I did, wasn't that good.
Is there a mod that makes the combat not shit?
Press T
Can I suck off a bear in this shit or nah?
Yes, but dragons, oversized angels, wolves, and balors are more popular
>Knowledge (Husbandry) check passed
no but you can become the bear, manticore, dragon or just become a large giant and frick the succubus.
Any info on the next DLC?
>Play BAD GAME
No
but we are not suggesting you to play bg3 anon.
I think its a bad game with horrible characters and I regret buying it even on sale
will do in a couple years after morons betatest it for me
not smart enough and was never gifted with friends that played magic/dnd growing up so never learned
Can't these lariangays go pick fights with the shitposters in their own threads? Like I get that it's hard to deal with genuine criticisms of bg3 now that the honeymoon phase is ending but that's no reason to seethe in owlcat threads.
Low budget cuck simulator.
blue pill me on the combat and i will
People shit on bg3 companion for being thirsty but Wenduag and Lann is the same too. b***h can't stop throwing signs at me that she wants to fug and Lann is one awkward guy . and lets not even talk about Sosiel "painting" that reveal that half of Ganker just wants to be fricked by a black guy
None of it happened to me since:
1. I'm not picking Wenduag over Lann
2. I'm not playing as a woman
3. I don't care about gay characters
Sound to me like you're projecting.
>None of it happened to me since:
>1. I'm not picking Wenduag over Lann
>2. I'm not playing as a woman
>3. I don't care about gay characters
regardless of what you may think. some companion in Wotr are just as thristy and horny as the bg3 ones. Daeran, Wenduag and even Lann immediately try to jump on your dick/vegana as soon as act 3 starts. Arue and camellia somewhat have a very slowburn romance all things considered
>some companion in Wotr are just as thristy and horny as the bg3 ones
>try to jump on your dick/vegana as soon as act 3 starts
You just owned yourself. In BG3 it takes like three camp interactions to frick someone. How is that even remotely similar?
Getting to act 3 might take you 20-30 hours of gameplay.
Regardless what YOU might think, you're plainly wrong.
Also, everyone in BG 3 is bisexual and open to threesomes with chracters they like. Also, there are unromancable characters in your party which places is miles above Larian in terms of party composition and writing. Keep coping.
in 45 hours i only fricked the lae'zel chick eho is combatsexual and kissed the red tiefling. explored every inch of the map and exhausted every dialogue. maybe your game bugged or something
>some companion in Wotr are just as thristy and horny as the bg3 ones
You've already defeated your own point, ESL. Each wotr companion has their own particular pacing to their romance arc, making the companion writing already better than bg3s. They also have their own sexual orientation, and even arcs separate from the player fricking them, elevating them even further. They all approach romance differently because they're characters first and not just dolls for the player to pleasure themselves with.
I know you probably don't know much about biology, but mongrels live like 30-40 years, which would make sense for them to be more sexually active.
>Lann is straight, so you're either a woman who wouldn't really mind all that much a guy is hitting on you or a troony looking to live out his lesbian fantasy in which case your opinion doesn't matter anyway
>unlike with Gale you have to ask Sosiel to paint you
Cope, lariangay.
Like how are you Black folk so delusional
, just frick off to your shadowheart generals already.
Too hooked on bg 3 right now and i need a break from pathfinder since i beat kingmaker 2 weeks ago
Okay, show me a multiplayer game with the Pathfinder ruleset then.
anyone got a mutation warrior build? i tried it out on recommendation from other anons but i have absolutely no idea what to pick when i level up
>mutation warrior build
What confused you so much? All you need is STR. Mutagen gives you even more to hit demons even harder.
i've never played a crpg much less know anything about pathfinder, i've looked at some videos but best i've found is some really early stuff to start with
Learning the system is part of the joy. I was in your situation 21 years ago when I first played NN 1. It's not that difficult. All you need to remember for now is that big numbers are good.
>Play Pa - ACK
yep, that's what happen when you tell a bg3tard to play an actual rpg instead of a WEG with some rpg elements
>Pathfinder
Thanks now when I try to play another RPG first thing I think about is "Diviner is just as broken?"
Literally can't play anything but Wizards now anywhere. I look at martials in my party same way I used to look at zombie skeletons. I literally can't consider non-casters as human beings anymore.
>castergay
>thinks he is hot shit
Lol. just because you can cast very few spells doesn't mean that you won't get rekt by a Martial chad in 1v1
>Pic
Unfortunately thats not how it works in practice.
I tried playing martials and only good build I could do is Saint Sword with 2 levels of Instinct Barb for 3 Stats to AC to compensate for STR dual-wielding.
That build CAN match caster but thats literally it. Anything but that is suboptimal because its forced to take shatter defence while Magus gets touch attacks.
So best martial is a GISH. With MAGIC.
>You need to stack initiative or you Dex is worthless
>You can't wear armor or enemy "touches" you
>You need protective luck or Ghoul paralyzes you with his 20 and your Dex stops working
VS
>Anything in the room that didn't throw 20 dies in 1 cast and you have 3 per turn.
true. the best marital is a 10 wizard/10 ek Lich and 15 oracel and 5 loremaster Angel. Azata mutt warrior is also great tho
outdated, loremaster can't get 2 improved improved crit feats anymore
>I swing my sword
>i roll a crit threat
>it isn't confirmed
>enemy DR soaks most of the damage
>it pastes me next round
NTA but this misguided tribalism is betrayed by the game systems. Only applicable to pf2e and even then I wouldn't rule out summoner or optimized druid or a Harm Machine cleric making a cutlet out of a martial either through endurance (the former two) or via nukes (the latter)
In pf1e, 3.5 and 5e caster supremacy is a very real phenomena
Either way, as I've said this sort of ire is misguided because it's a collaborative type of ordeal
I love my beautiful mother. Her name is Areelu Vorlesh, and she is a powerful witch and famous moonshiner from Sarkoris. One day, I will help her fulfill her promise.
>RTWP
>no player freedom
>unfinished mythic paths
>broken, horrible DLC
>game was released with countless bugs, one of the most buggy games ever released
>crusader system
>trash mobs
>even more pozzed than Larian
WOTR sucks
Already did
It's shit compared to bg3
Owlcattle think RTWP is good "combat"
>the most popular WOTR mod is a big button that automatically pre-buffs all your characters
lololol
Have you considered turning on turn based mode?
The combat encounters aren't designed around turn-based, because WOTR is filled with endless trash mobs. The tutorial dungeon of WOTR (water temple) has more combat encounters than an entire act of BG3
Oh, so it's a (you) issue, got it.
what do you get out of sucking owlcats dick?
>can switch between both modes on the fly
>still b***hes when chooses to waste time in turn based while mopping up trash mobs
Literally braindead moronic.
>mopping up trash mobs
This shouldn't be in the game in the first case. Owlcattle are so buckbroken that they can't imagine an RPG without endless trash-mobs
>Stacking pre-buffs and then doing nothing while you mow down trash mobs is GOOD COMBAT!
It's not good combat.
You didn't play the game.
I played the game and it was unfinished, buggy garbage
>Mounted combat was buggy and broken for multiple years post-release
>the crusader system
>50% of class features did not work or were bugged
>Stretch goal mythic paths were unfinished
>Dogshit horrible DLC
>Pozzed worse than any other game
>No player freedom, can't attack NPCs or steal freely
>Crusader system
>Crusader system
Owlcat is an embarrassing developer. WOTR still has bugs left over from Kingmaker.
Sorry troony, you're not fooling anyone.
why are there trash mob fights in the first place?
Because they can be thematic?
Making every fight be against a small but elite group of enemies gets boring quickly.
Yeah, I love pre-buffing and fighting endless trash mobs because
>it's thematic
fricking lol. rtwp is just straight garbage
>pre-buffing for trash fights
Sounds like a skill issue. Then again, we all know you didn't play the game.
>no argument
owlcattle lost
anybody got an extra key of this from Humble Bundle previous months
anyone?
Just torrent the game so you avoid the baked in malware that they patched in a little bit ago
then there will be no Pathfinder 3
I was waiting for all the bugs to be fixed so it looks like now is a good time to play it.
Only took them two fricking years
Why does Owlcat get a pass for being pozzed? I will never understand why it's completely ignored that they have troony and gay propaganda in their games.
Can anyone explain please?
>Why does Larian get a pass for being pozzed? I will never understand why it's completely ignored that they have troony and gay propaganda in their games.
>Can anyone explain please?
Such as?
>immediately deflects instead of dealing with criticism
Yep this is an Owlcat fanboy thread alright.
>that they have troony
BG3 doesn't have any troony characters in the story. It's solely a character creation thing
pffffft he doesn't know
lariantroony cope alert
lariantroony cope alert
Post them, then
Damn gotcha, so an off the beaten path companion side quest character is a troon.
Wow that's far more egregious than a companion you're required to have in your party that you can't kill off
>Have in your party
Confirmed to have never played the game.
Owlbeartocat trannies seething
Larian won, trannies lost
>a companion you're required to have in your party that you can't kill off
Anevia isn't a companion.
>shitposter hasn't played the game
>hasn't even spent a minute fact checking the shit he's posting
Ganker at it's best
Owlcat fans are RTWP diehards who like RTWP because they grew up with it. Not because RTWP is good. Therefore, they will blindly defend any RTWP game
WOTR was one of the most buggy games ever released, and was unfinished. They did not care, they rabidly defended it because it's a RTWP game. This is the most truthful answer you'll get and the one they hate the most
God are you fricking annoying. You've made your already rebuked point numerous times already, and you keep at it. The mark of a paid shill, 5 cents per post.
I will, getting into cprgs after having them on the backlog for over a decade.
Current planned order is
>Planescape
>Fallout
>I'm here
>Fallout 2
>BG1
>BG2
>Pillars of Eternity
>Divinity, no fricking clue how I'm supposed to tackle these though
>Pathfinder 1
>Pathfinder 2
>BG3
Any recommendations?
Anything else I should check out?
Particularly with Divinity
NWN with expansions n NWN2
Should I play those before pillars?
The goal is to play through them so I can see how the genre evolves.
Before, also play Arcanum
You can also play the Wasteland series, Temple of Elemental Evil with mods, and Disco Elysium.
Dont forget Arcanum.
I unironically played through tavern siege in turn-based mode once.
I did. Now I'm just waiting for them finish pumping out all the DLC before I replay it once again.
with BG3 success think we'll get a Higher production values with pathfinder 3?
i just want to be able to zoom in the camera to third person like Doa/Kotor
No, because Owlcat isn't 1/10th as talented. As lmfao because even Owlcat is abandoning RTWP now. RTWP sucks so badly
But bg3 combat is 100x better
BG3's success really mindbroke Owlcucks, huh? Half this thread is just them seething over BG3 in one way or another when the average cRPG fan enjoys both games.
Why do you so fervently defend only games made by Owlcat and for free no less? I'll never understand this.
>criticize Pathfinder
>they immediately bring up BG3 instead of addressing the criticism
Are Pathfinder games truly perfect in your eyes that the only possible explanation for why someone doesn't like a particular element to the game is because they're shitposting? That's not a very healthy viewpoint, anon.
>op makes wotr thread
>trannies immidiately bring up bg3
>hurr durr gb3 mindbroke you
Btw the only people using the word "mindbreak" are reddit tourists, so frick off back to your shitty website
>instantly brings up BG3 instead of being able to answer a basic question
Like clockwork.
What question are you asking? "Why I only defend owlcat?" It's untrue bullshit.
the first post is a seething larian tard who started seething immediately about Owlchads lmao
talk about obessessd and living rent free in the heads of bear sex 3 cattles
disliked Pathfinder? thats a (you) problem
Yes. Is this the first time Owlcattle are learning about this?
Oh wow so they just wrote the main quest in a way that works even if certain characters are dead and that's somehow groundreaking 10/10 according to troons
They accomplished it and Owlcat did not. Owlcat games do not give freedom to the player.
I got filtered by the character creation, I don't know anything about DnD and I don't want to have to spend 30 minutes reading up on muh lore to know that I'm not making terrible decisions.
just set the game to easy and do whatever you want, dont pick a magic guy so you dont have to read a bunch of spells
nvm lol i thought i was in the bg3 thread
idk how pathfinder build autism works, good luck bro
>idk how pathfinder build autism works
No different from DND. The "problem" is that you have to spend an hour reading through all the classes and subclasses on the character creation scene to know what works together and what doesn't.
Yes
>Owcuck struggling with cognitive dissonance as he releases other RPGs let you do things that Owlcat doesn't
I hate redditors and discordians who are itt rn
i don't care that you think punting someone off a ledge or walk in on some monster fricking is good gameplay
i like builds and I like Pathfinder
the threads used to be comfy and now they're filled to to brim with mentally ill Larian trolls
>i like builds and I like Pathfinder
Yeah dude, your monk / sword saint / mutagen build is so cool and unique. Really cool build system
To be fair "5 gloomstalker/7 thief" or "6 blue sorc/6 storm priest" are no better.
well yes. the amount of classes and archetypes in this game is cool. the fact that you can make a Frankenstein build work is the best part about the pathfinder system and this game. i can't say the same for Bg3 tho.
troonyfinder is reddit/discord personified tho
Owlshart bros... not like this... not. Like. This.
how many layers of mental illness are the larianites on
HE FRICKING DELETED IT LMAO
What was it
larian false flag
Anon pretending to be moronic on purpose to shitpost. nothing new
?t=141
>WOTR combat is so shit that the most popular mod is something that automates the game for you
lolllllllllllllllllllllllll
>Larian writing
"You did not ask but you received.Not all boons are prayed for. Not all curses deserved"
>Owlcat "writing"
"I must part with everything demonic in me, but Desna? Please allow me to keep my lovely beautiful irresistable... wings?"
I played pathfinder IRL for 2 years it's gay. Having much more fun by myself with bg3
Damn, lariantrannies raiding this thread hard, lol.
You idiots make it way too easy.
Just like Pathfinder games where you have no narrative choice and have to follow the designed path, these threads always follow the designed path of owlcucks responding to every single bait.
They can't help it because they can't comprehend actually having a choice to ignore the bait because that is how their beloved game is structured.
It's truly poetic.
That's an insanely lazily done thread, you should feel ashamed or even optionally have a nice day. I'll leave you to it.
>In bg3 you can kill main quest npcs?
HAHAHAHA HE DELETED IT AHGAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
OWLSHARTS LOST
OWLSHARTS LOST
OWLSHARTS LOST
>In bg3 you can kill main quest npcs?
You poor, deluded Owlcattle. Your ignorance was your undoing.
>Make a falseflag post
>Inundate it with shill replies
>Delete it
What drives a fanbase to become so utterly obnoxious?
>i-it was a falseflag!!!
owcattle cope alert
owcattle cope alert
also owlcattle are frogposters, good to know
discord trannies
It's really funny, isn't it?
lol a reddit frog moron telling somebody he's obnoxious
>in a role playing game you can... Role Play!? *brain implodes*
The absolute state of owlcat fan boys
holy shit. These people will look you dead in the eyes, tell you bg3 has bad writing, and then with the same breath praise wotr for its writing. Unbelievable. These people really are the guys behind 90% of the bg3 hate spam
anybody got an extra key for wrath of the righteous?
Check the nearest dumpster
It's full of BG3 copies
Yup, right here my fellow Pathfinder enjoyer
I dont mind switching side if you got that extra BG3 copy
BG3 doesn't have DRM. Meanwhile, WOTR added literal malware once
>$39.99 plus malware
No thanks, Ivan.
they pulled it back out after players lost their collective minds about it
They pulled it because they are based in Cyprus, an EU country and that malware violates EU law.
RusBlack folk and Amerisharts aren't used to consumer protection.
>literal malware
tell me how larian attained info on how many players chose races, classes, and romances. tell me how.
There's a telemetry checkbox in their launcher that is easily turned off.
Can you show me how to turn off the Owlcat baked in malware?
>There's a telemetry checkbox in their launcher that is easily turned off.
This is what lariantrannies believe.
Lol, lmao.
>Can you show me how to turn off the Owlcat baked in malware?
No such thing.
Can't. because unlike Lariantard games Owlcat games doesn't have chink spyware :). also lol if you believe Larian isn't collecting your data
By not adding ring 0 malware from an advertising company to scan your hardware, and then getting BTFO and having to remove it
BG3 comes with the malware pre-installed, sweety.
How do you think they collected the player data on the release week?
pretty sure neither does Pathfinder. also BG3 sends your data to the chinks. where do you think they got the player data from?
>Owlcattle thread
>"Dude check out my mutagen monk sword saint."
>"Awesome build bro."
>larian superchads arrive and shit all over the ESLs
>Basic facts about WOTR (buggy, unfinished, shit combat, shit writing) make the ESL Owlcattle go seething with rage
Every thread, every time, without fail. Owlfats lost.
I'm trans btw, if that helps.
I'm trans btw, if that helps.
>troony with half-orc paladin wife
>can't straight out kill her because you are playing ow*cat game instead of Larian one
How on earth do owlcattle grapple with the fact that they have the audacity to call larian games woke when this character exists?
Because they don't shove it in your face. She doesn't tell you her life story. If you ask why she tells you to frick off and you have to wait until chapter 5 and pass a 50 DC check for it tell you it's a troony. BG3 has literal drag queens. Frick off.
HOLY FRICK THIS
JUST SO MUCH FRICKING THIS
ITS A 50 DC CHECK FOLKS!
Yes, you have to go out of your way to find the troony content.
>our troony content is fine because they're deceptive about it!
If anything, that is even worse. At least BG3 is up front pozzed so I can avoid it outright.
Yass sister, being pozzed is fine as long as you are in somebody's face about it!
>they're deceptive about it!
By not telling you? By not shoving it in your face? Really? THIS is what you're going with?
>By not telling you?
>owlcattle learns the definition of basic words and ideas
Now you know where the praise for the writing comes from in owlkeks lmao
don't start samegayging, moron
have a nice day.
>my pozz is fine because they smear it in my face 24/7
average Lariangay
if you play the game normally you most likely will never know she was a man
>if you don't talk to characters in game you won't ever know
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
All things considered owlcat writing is so trash this probably isn't bad advice
>BRO JUST DONT TALK TO THE CHARACTERS IN THE GAME BRO
then why even have them in the first place...
Your game literally has a genitalia and pronoun options in the character creation you disingenuous homosexual.
who is more mentally ill, aruegays or lariantrannies
Camcucks
We prefer to be called Lady Camellia patricians.
Camellia posters
Any time you have to shit on another game to talk about how much you enjoy a game, you're too far gone.
I like both larian games and Pathfinder games for different reasons but the fanbases of both will shit on me for it.
rightfully so
bg3 fans are truly fricking vile bunch huh
not that I'm surprised at a degenerate game attracting degenerate people (so called)
I'm trying to play kingmaker first. But I'm a brainlet and the game seems to have a million trap options.
AoD was the last RPG with ""decent"" writing
>tfw your an rpg chad who enjoys both larian and owlkeks games
Frick pillars games though, those suck ass
>Rpg
>Chad
based Enjoyer chad
kim smiling is legitimately creepy as frick for some reason. looks like a child predator israelite.
filtered by a good game system, like clockwork
both are pozzed troony games with dogshit writing and awful fanbases. at least larian has the decency not to bundle their game with chinese spyware.
wotr is better at making the player feel moments of power, which is my heroin
bg3 is better at being a boring bland ass low level nothingburger
frick people who think low level is fun. its not. give me high universe shattering stakes over 'the local druid grove is being bullied by goblins' any day.
>watching autoattacking sprites makes autists feel powerful
That tracks, I guess
>installs the auto-buff mod and does nothing while fighting trash mobs
>yes this is great, I am "feeling moments of power"
WOTR is a shit videogame for ESLs
only mod i ever used was removing carry weight limitations because my OCD demands that i pick up every single thing that isn't nailed down. once someone comes up with one for bg3 ill use one there too, lol
>he thinks any crpg is autoattacking with sprites
lol
Swen should bought Owlcat games studio only to make them janitors in Larian HQ.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/3684558162500170698
It's years after release and there are STILL bugs with spells and features they are trying to fix. How embarassing for Owlcat
you do realize that act 2 and especially act 3 of bg3 are so full of bugs that it's like a mildewing couch left out in florida in the summer, right?
BG3 in it's release state is less buggy than WOTR multiple years after release
WOTR was one of the most buggy games ever released. Over half the class features didn't work
>mounted combat
didn't work for a very long time
>crusader system
bugged beyond all recognition
>broken quests, softlocks, save corruption
all present for many months, if not years
WOTR is a bug-filled pozzed shithole
i dunno about that there chief, i think you might be exaggerating either the bugginess of wotr on launch or the stability of bg3 on launch or both, just because you like bg3 better and seem to want it to 'win' this silly little war erupting between the two games
>i think you might be exaggerating either the bugginess of wotr on launch
No, it's underexaggerated. WOTR was insanely buggy on launch. Easily the most buggy game I ever played
Look at sales figures and player numbers. Regardless of what I want, BG3 already won dumbass lmao
>BG3 already won
won what
>In bg3 you can kill main quest npcs?
yeah, and?
Can you have a good story in BG3? Can you have good writing in BG3? Can you have a non snowflake companion in BG3? Can you have roleplaying options that aren't just "good" "evil" and "ultraevil" in BG3? Can you have companions that don't instantly try to frick you in BG3?
You thought BG3 didn't let you kill main quest NPCs. Then you deleted the post. You got owned.
I can't wait for homosexuals like you to make a screencap and post it to own homosexuals.
tiresome
Yes, better than owlcat, yes, yes, only 2 companions try to frick you immediately
Surely it couldn't be because millions of 5E normies got exposed to the first major game on the system.
>i think you might be exaggerating either the bugginess of wotr on launch
He really isn't man, entire systems were completely fricked for multiple months past release and to this day there's still softlocks and save corruptions.
As a person that absolutely hates 3.pf as a tabletop system, I still VASTLY prefer owlcat games to Larian games. At least both Kingmaker and WotR make an effort at a serious narrative, Larian writing is just a string of disconnected teehee macaroni nonsense.
Furthermore, Baldur's Gate was never really that good. BG1 is a turboautistic simulator of lvl1 AD&D 2e, which is by far the least enjoyable way to play, and which is only enjoyed by people who got Stockholm Syndrome from its stupidity in their childhood, and finished the game ten times in a row to cap out their stats because they think giving everyone a bow and casting entangle/web/grease qualifies as 'gameplay'. Now, BG2 is actually passable, but in the grander context of IWD and Torment it's really not that great. Torment is wholly focused on story, and IWD1 is fully focused on a level 1 to 20 crunchy dungeon delving experience, both excelling at their chosen field and being passable in the other. BG2 tries to be everything at once, like your proto-open-world housewife RPG, and it kind of sucks at a whole bunch of it when you take a close look and compare to how the rest of the genre has done it since.
BG3 largely feels like an unfortunate evolution of BG2 in this regard, except it also tries to add yet another lowest common denominator feature in also being a Bioware dating sim. That, to me, is pretty pathetic. I will much rather have something completely autistically elitist like Owlcat games.
Games that contain characters like linzi and nenio cannot be considered narratively "serious"
>Nenio
agreed, pure reddit + hate owlcat puzzles. Then again, even in their sheer autism and annoyance, owlcat puzzles at basic level of even existing in the game, are far more genuinely complicated and challenging than anything you will ever encounter in BG3.
>Linzi
I have to disagree with you there, because someone thought that Nenio would be cool, but Linzi is written to be lame as hell. She is the quintessential arthoe; a shoddy bard who makes a much better rogue. The game very deliberately sticks Linzi onto you, makes her impossible to be rid of, and makes her a somewhat annoying character. That's because Linzi is the soul of the game, the whole thing is framed as the book she is writing. Just like the game itself, Linzi is a tryhard moron who is really trying their best to please you but they have no idea how exactly to do it. It's a rough ride and sometimes you love to hate her, but she'll still give you 200 hours of content.
i love this cute little moronic Halfing it's so unreal
(Oh, and it doesn't help that BG3 takes a huge shit on every single asset it uses from BG2. Why have Jaheira at all if you're going to write her into a completely different person?)
>Owlcat apologizes within 24 hours after adding Appflyer malware to WOTR
"Hey guys. Thank you all for the feedback, we hear you loud and clear, and apologize for all the outrage caused. Honestly, it was deserved.
The change has been reverted. The third party app will be removed, all data already collected - wiped, and the old version of EULA reinstated with a hotfix within nearest 24h."
this has got to be the only time they listened to their fanbase
What the hell did they expect to happen?
they expect goycattle like Lariangays to slurp it up but didn't know Owlcatgays have higher than average IQ and knows how to read and use their computer
>knows how to use their computer
>higher IQ
>willingly installs malware on it
What did Owlcucks mean by this?
>ESL insists he is high IQ but can't even write a braindead language like English correctly
Considering it's standard practice in the bussiness nowadays, probably not much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppsFlyer
AppsFlyer is a SaaS mobile marketing analytics and attribution platform, headquartered in San Francisco, California.
lmfao @ owlsharts
KM > Wotr
Lariangays being so insecure about some shitty Russian company tells you alot
funnily enough Owlcat even wish them luck and didn't even cry about them unlike Obsidian and other devs
Does Kingmaker have better companions than this?
Yes
No, even worse. Enjoy your Owlcat slop
Compared to wotr clowns? Way better
Lol no. aside from Jubi and Ekun there is no good companion
>Ekun
No. But then again I like Nok-Nok.
FRICK no, and anyone telling you otherwise is just lying.
>In bg3 you can kill main quest npcs?
An Owlshill post that will live in infamy
YOU WILL NOT TALK TO NPCS
YOU WILL NOT ATTEMPT TO ROLE PLAY UNTIL THE GAME DEEMS IT NECESSARY
YOU WILL INSTALL THE AD SPYWARE
YOU WILL COMPLY WITH THE DRAFT
YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DIP UNTIL WE TELL YOU TO STOP!
>we heard you like sudoku puzzles but you have to guess the starting tiles :^)
Was there are more annoying puzzle or did I get filtered?
I really hope that all the people who picked up BG3 as their babby's first RPG to play with their girlfriend in coop will actually care enough to play previous entries in the genre, and thus eventually come around to understand and appreciate the sheer scale of what Owlcat games actually managed to accomplish.
The scale is about a third of what BG3 accomplishes though???
I see you have never played either game.
No one gives a frick about over 9000 dips: the game
Baldurs gate 1 and 2 shit on wotr
'Scale' is about anything but gameplay, or how many gigabytes the game has, or how many mountains you can climb. It's about cohesion. At the end of both owlcat games, you truly feel like everything you have done over 200 hours, though annoying at times, has been a part of a greater whole and you have walked a long road to stand there at the end, watching the credits roll. It is an accomplishment.
Finishing BG3 gives you the feeling that you just finished watching a 200 episode shounen anime and you don't really know anymore what the point of everything was, but at least the flashing lights were pretty and it was funny when the bugbear fricked the ogre.
>At the end of both owlcat games, you truly feel like everything you have done over 200 hours, though annoying at times, has been a part of a greater whole and you have walked a long road to stand there at the end, watching the credits roll. It is an accomplishment.
Kingmaker? Yes. Wrath of the righteous? Frick no
By the time you finish wotr you are completely burned out in their completely terrible and frustrating bullshit and you are simply glad it ended. Assuming you didn't drop it before.
>the sheer scale of what Owlcat games actually managed to accomplish.
>In bg3 you can kill main quest npcs?
>>In bg3 you can kill main quest npcs?
what does this mean
kek, you're really riding that
Cute Valarie. but to answer your question they won't. I occasionally ask my friend to play old games like fallout 1 and 2 and he tell me that the outdated graphics is too ugly and clunky to play with.
>will actually care enough to play previous entries in the genre, and thus eventually come around to understand and appreciate the sheer scale of what Owlcat games actually managed to accomplish.
Baldurs gate 2 has better gameplay, a better story, and better graphics than a game made two decades later. If anything playing bg1 and 2 makes people realize how shit most rpgs are
>Old will never be topped
>New garbage is shit
Nothing new
>Baldurs gate 2 has better gameplay
>and better graphics
You could have said that BG2 is the better game but instead you went full moron
>owlcattle shifting on the supreme beauty of infinity engine games
Opinion utterly and completely disregarded.
shifting
Still going full moron I see
If you genuinely think BG1 has good gameplay, you must be drinking so much nostalgia juice it's coming out of your ears; especially when IWD exists that does the exact same thing but not moronic.
>Baldurs gate 2 has better gameplay
Reading is hard for you people isn't it
You need 2 adverbs and 3 adjectives around every noun before they get it.
Honestly, having been playing AD&D 2e exclusively for six years now, and refusing to accept any other edition of dee en dee, it's insane to me how bad a job the games do of translating the system in regards to what the old games could be and aren't.
- most pressingly, variant crit rules (missing limbs, lasting wounds, but most of all NEGATIVE HP and not instantly dying and having to reload when you lose 4 hit points out of four)
- martial combat actions (since Charge does not exist, you can just fricking run from everyone and shoot them with a bow as soon as you get any movement speed bonus because running doesn't exist either)
- the entire fricking Non-Weapon Proficiency system - this is in IWD2 in 3.5's shitty version, why is it not in the previous game, when it's an attribute-based skill system that actually works? Surely it would not be hard to code? Could it be that they just did not want you to have a personalized experience? It also results in a whole bunch of kits being completely moronic (berserker, kensai) because the roleplay drawbacks do not exist. They just did not think of it back in the day darn even though other RPG writers did.
- potion miscibility rules (this goes a long way to not make the system completely broken)
- concentration, which in fact originates in 2e (this goes a long way to not make the system not completely broken)
- just a whole bunch of shit in the game working in completely insane ways (One example for all - Charm Person should improve reaction modifier, which -exists- in BG1, based on charisma why the frick does Charm Person mind control people to attack their friends?)
>Playing anything other than 3.5/PF
Cringe
Having defended Owlcat games in this thread,
the amount of bookkeeping required for actually playing Pathfinder is really obnoxious and makes it impractical. Ironically enough, Owlcat games working as well as they do as videogames showcase how completely fricking horrible the system actually is to play for flesh and bones human beings.
It isn't obnoxious, you are just casual.
It is
You are
Something being complicated is not a sign of intelligent design. The word "convoluted" exists as a descriptor for a reason. The greatest minds of humanity had collectively agreed that intricacy by itself is not a virtue. But surely you and your bloated system that requires having a fricking degree (which is worthless by the way) in its studies before you start playing it, know better.
RPGs aren't for you, read a fricking book if you don't actually want to play the game you casual moron.
You can keep repeating that word as much as you like, it won't magically transfigure reality. I can guarantee I've completed more personal challenges in videogames for the sake of the enjoyment that it brings, than you had ever considered.
>I'm a harcore gamer but reading and keeping track of stats is too hard. Owlcat please take out all of the gameplay and make it into a movie for me.
Pathfinder exists because people like you ruined DnD. Its literally not for you, go try to ruin somebody else's hobby.
>Strawmanning
You've gone and turned fricking hysterical because I mocked your autistic build lego system that has nothing to it other than it.
Anon, PF1 class tierlists with wide breths of classes and feats banned exist for a reason. The system assumes you are cheesing as hard as you possibly can. Cheesing as hard as you can requires you to stack a whole bunch of +1. The same way you do in WotR. Few people enjoy seeing 1d20+5+4+2+1+1+1+1 on their character sheet, and fewer still remember that now that they are no longer in a moderate forest but an arctic one, the +2 no longer applies.
There is no point without the modifiers, stop trying to take the game out of RPGs.
>so Haste is already on, right
>am I in point blank range
>did he cast Bless yet
>is Inspire Courage (3 rounds) still on
>am I flanking
>is my magus/paladin weapon enchant still on
>can this technically be considered my favored enemy
>oh he cast Prayer?
>oh the other guy cast Prayer
>am I Shaken? Is GM keeping this in mind for me
>I guess I could cast Divine Power...
>wait what do you mean attribute damage
it gets very old very very fast
>Anon, PF1 class tierlists with wide breths of classes and feats banned exist for a reason.
it's funny to see people treat PF 1 like it's some kind of public tournament. what happens in your game is on your terms.
>The system assumes you are cheesing as hard as you possibly can.
you have two options: they players have the power, or the writers. 2e is the writers saying you're playing in our sandbox now, go frick yourself. players' cheesing is too hard to account for and ruins the "balance". but who cares if you cheese in your own fricking house? well, as it turns out, Paizo does. also, 90% of book keeping complaints can be resolved if people would just fricking learn the damn game. that takes time and experience. the worst thing is Paizo were too damn proud to take what actually worked from 4e DnD and improve it like they did with 3.5e.
It's a real shame that 4e missed out on its own videogame, being itself often called videogamey. Honestly, it would have been even more barren than BG3 and Solasta are with 5e, but that could just lend itself to a more narrative experience. God knows Torment didn't need to have half the gameplay complexity it had, and it didn't have much.
I like BG3 a lot, but WotR (and BG1+2) still reign supreme for me. After Larian's success (and if Rogue Trader ends up well), I hope publishers see the potential in cRPGs and someone drops a bag of money on Mishulin's lap for a big budget new PF game.
Honestly it's better if CRPGs remain a niche genre made by people that love the genre. It becoming the next big thing chased by AAA studios will just lead to absolute dogshit games.
Can you imagine a CRPG made by modern day Bioware?
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
I don't get why we have people dedicated to faction warring between Larian and Owlcat, this shit has been going on since the sales flop of Pillars 2
>Use all buffs before fight
>Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss Miss
No thanks.
This piece of shit eurojank is getting clearly astroturfed
It hasn't sold nearly enough copies to warrant having threads up 24/7 on every single gaming board. Almost a year after its release
But enough about BG3
>337 / 92
It's just the same 3 or 4 Owlcuck shills pissed about BG3 mogging them out of existence.
or maybe it could just be because some anons like the game very much and discuss it time to time?
It's made by Russians, the country that's owned by China, you do the math
holy shit what the frick is going on in this thread
is it just one guy pulling an eric?
Bro I just want to nonstop PLAP Nocticula until she ascends as the redeemer queen and pulls me to Elysium by the pussy.
the usual owlcuck
>people don't like my blatant shilling! it must be some schizo, it has to be!!! There are no valid criticisms for thing that I like!!!
Meds.
>shilling
Who's shilling what, exactly?
>guard hearth
>greater magic weapon
>stoneskin communal
>mind blank
>heroic invocation
>greater herosim>mirror image
>displacement
>blur
>protection from evil communal
>delay poison communal
>death ward
>greater bulls strength communal
>greater cats grace communal
>greater owls wisdom communal
>prayer
>activate all my summons
Yep, I'm thinking its gaming time.
>Bone armor
>Long arm
>Bull's strength
>Cat's grace
>Eagle's splendor
>Fox's cunning
>Owl's wisdom
>Vampiric blade
>Power of death (extended)
>Haste (extended)
>Resist fire
>Resist frost
>Resist acid
>Resist lightning
>Resist sonic
>Protection from fire
>Protection from frost
>Protection from acid
>Protection from lightning
>Protection from sonic
>Firebrand (extended)
>Geniekind (Djinni) (extended)
>Geniekind (Efreeti) (extended)
>Geniekind (Marid) (extended)
>Geniekind (Shaitan) (extended)
>Legendary Proportions
>Protection from spells
>Mind blank
>Greater angelic aspect
>Eyes of the Bodak (extended)
>Dragonkind III (Blue Dragon)
>Greater heroism
>Sea mantle
>displacement (extended)
>Foresight
>Ice form
>Fire form
>iron body
>Greater Invisibility (Extended)
>Blink (Extended)
>Vampiric shield (Extended, Empowered)
>Transformation (Extended)
yep, it's pathfindin' time!
It bugs me so much that here isn't some in-game "script" for planning out spells. Like, press one button and your casters will cast the pre-planned spells.
Spending that much time casting the same spells over and over is so tedious.
>Maximized quickened feast of blood
>Maximized feast of blood
>Encounter ends
Lichbros what the FRICK are you doing?
>quickened
>not using the skelly finger wand
you will never be my lichbro.
As someone that hasn't played these games, I'm starting to understand why they're 200 hours of that's what encounters end up being like. Odd thing to brag about.
As much as i like pf most encounter on core difficulty are like that. it's really a none issue at early lvls but in later lvls if you don't have buffs to get that sweet +4 to your ab you will be gimping your self hard. that's why i don't recommend this game unless you are ready to suffer with the build autism of this game.
Those are joke posts, you do not actually have enough spell slots to cast all that shit, you are largely adjusting yourself to what you're fighting in the area.
But it gets pretty ridiculous at times, yeah.
>strength+19
>it's a modifier so the creature has 38 strength score
What level?
>BAB +18
Gee, I don't know anon.
17-20? I don't know if it has minions or other buffs because normal CR4 owlbear only have half of that strength score on pathfinder SRD.
It's not an Owlbear. It's a treant that has taken the shape of one. A treant from the First World to be precise.
I already beat it three times.
>trash mobs
better trash mobs than no mobs like BG3 post Act 1
>Want to cross a gulch
>Check is well within my athletics
>Fail and put entire party on deaths door
>Need to play the rest of the quest one shot able with no heals now or save scum every roll check
>Cant just be comfy pld need to spec into 10 kinds of other homosexualry to enjoy playing
>Have to rest every couple of fights to cast magic because there is no mp in homosexual dnd
Core DnD is kinda fricking gay but maybe the story is good??
>None of the main characters are likable
>Vampire twink is annoying
>Witch child is legally moronic
>40 hours in and evil starbucks white woman has nothing more to her story since the start of chapter one might not see more for another 40 hours
>Rouge with israelite fro who looks like a fat girls husbando insert runs like a b***h when the shit pops off with the gargoyles
>My Trusted spymaster is a lesbian married to an orc and looks like a troony self insert
>Have to play heroes of might and magic dollar store edition to advance the story
>Feels like I need to google every other quest so I don't miss out on a mythic path because I ain't coming back for another 100 hours of this train wreck.
I just took over drez and I think I've had my fill of this fricking game does it get better or is it just more of the same shit.
Well, u also get cucked later
owlsisters...our response?
my response?
>None of the main characters are likable
>Vampire twink is annoying
>Witch child is legally moronic
>40 hours in and evil starbucks white woman has nothing more to her story since the start of chapter one might not see more for another 40 hours
I thought he was talking about bg3 lol
Honestly, same.
rent free
I'm 25 hours into bg3 you literally described two of the companions to a T
>Bro, your cute succ gf?
>Vampire twink is annoying
who? this isn't bg3 anon
Darian. I'm pretty sure hes a vampire.
can i make a drow cleric and slam clams with the evil qts in wotr?
>the best and most girls in the PF games are demonic in nature and evil to varying degrees, and either were evil previously, or start off as evil when you meet them (Kanerah (+ Kalikke), Nyrrisa, Arue, Wendu, Nocticula, Vellexia, Areelu...) Cam doesn't count, as she fricks off
>PF threads are filled with anons who hold favorable views towards succubi and want to have sex with them, no matter the consequences
I'm starting to think the games are a small part of an elaborate plan to indoctrinate people to be more susceptible and complaint to influences of hot, evil demonesses before they take over the Earth.
then i welcome them whole heartedly. atleast they will be better than our modern day 3dpd women
Cam doesn't count because she isn't evil. Everyone she kills isn't real and deep down she knows this. There is nothing morally wrong with killing NPCs.
so will she be happy if i kill her? give her the rest she deserves and release her from the torment of living in this universe
>killing best girl
You are gay
Wait so would it be bad to play Pathfinder games as lawful good? Will I miss out on character relationships if they're all varying degrees of evil natures?
no paying pf as a lawful good will not make you miss out on relationships. but be warned that some companions will leave you if you are too evil or too nice.
he is a half-angel elf anon. can't you see his portrait?
Nyrissa, Wenduag, Nocticula and Areelu are all trash.
For me, its characters you cant romance that I want to romance the most
She's a little shit who tried to get you nommed by bugs.
And tries to burn down your tent. Shes so tsundre for you. Way better than cam.
The only thing she deserves is to be turned into a cum dumpster for the horses in Drezen
>I'm starting to think the games are a small part of an elaborate plan to indoctrinate people to be more susceptible and complaint to influences of hot, evil demonesses before they take over the Earth
wtf based.
I would rather have hot evil demonesses than fricking ugly israelites. At least if you sacrifice something to them, you get things in return.
Can someone explain how the frick is mah boy regill evil? He literally doesn't do a single evil thing in the entire game and his quest ends up with him sacrificing his own honour and reputation to keep the hellknights allied with the coomander for the crusade.
He's only as evil as lann, who isn't considered evil at all. All the other evil characters are literal demon worshippers.
He murdered wounded crusaders.
Not evil, they would have been taken and tortured to death by the gargoyles. Also I feel that was the single attempt of the game trying to paint him in a bad light, he never does anything like that again.
He has a streak of excusing convenience with the necessity. The first time you meet him he has his own soldiers executed; and he claims he did it to spare you the hard decision. In truth he did it to spare himself the decision, because he is ethically lazy.
This is basically something Regill does a lot, everytime someone would say 'back up, this is a complicated situation', Regill will suggest the edgiest possible solution, simply because he hates things being complicated.
huh, explains a lot. kinda like when someone once told me that being evil things is easier than doing good because good always require more effort.
> being
*doing
He's sadistic and enjoys giving brutal orders to a certain extent.
especially the ones where he gets to bully Yaker afterwards
>recent reviews
>mixed
No, I don't think I will purchase this £35 video game adventure
From my experience in these threads
Owlkino fans are usually a good bunch. Conversely, Larian fans are either paid shills or transexuals.
owlcuck wierdos are taking over a dead thread
Finally, lariantrannies left the thread.
Give me the greatest tips for wotr, im gonna play it after kingmaker.
i have some questions first.
>do you want to play good or bad?
>do you want to be a arcane caster or divine caster?
>what is your favorite class and playstyle?
I guess more bad than good but not totally evil, I dont mind really anything.
then you are gonna have a tough time because some mythic path forces you to be evil or good. but if you want to rp as a justifiable bad guy than go Lich. also answer the other two question
>justifiable
>lich
Then can I be a lawful butthole? Lich sounds fun.
As in classes, or playstyles, im gonna look at everything so I dont know, but more so tips on general gameplay shit or spells/feats to 100% avoid.
Lawful butthole is for Aeon playthroughs where you get to see that upstanding people littered when they were a kid and punish them for it.
than play Aeon because it's lawful butthole as it gets. combine it with inquisitor for some very very good damage with bane+aeon bane.
Lariantrannies can't they get filtered at the character creation
Whats the best class to pair with Aeon? I want to correct the mistakes of the past
Inquisitor. You're judgemental. Bonus points if you're one of Pharasma's.
Does Sense Vitals stack with my rogue's sneak attacks?
Yes.
Creampie the spider
Don't wanna play isometric indie garbage and I don't wanna give money to that mongol homosexual named putin.
The only good path in this game is the swarm. Every single fricking character in this game is either an insufferable writer mouthpiece, a pity party ambassador or just a lolmoronic epic backstabber demon.
>BG3 - can romance the frog
>WOTR - can't romance the fox
Owlcat lost. Bow.
La creatura
I will say one thing for Larian: admist the swirling pool of utmost degenerate behavior you can make Shadowheart into a loving tradwife. Owlcat always drops the ball. While it's very satisfying to make Arue go forth and sin no more the fact she ends up squatting in a shack all alone presumably never seeing you again or only rarely is just fricking moronic. Who knows what they're going to do to my beloved Cassia but it will probably involve her mutating into a frog or a fish and never seeing you again.
She dies
You know you can play both Larian games and Pathfinder, right? You people are brain damaged. Same goes for the vocal Sawyer autists.
We get like one or two crpgs a year, seems kind of wasteful to not play one.
I played both Pathfinder and Baldur's Gate.
Both are good but different.
Every fricking day there's a shill thread about this genuinely shitty game, bunch of fricking russian conartists.
Thanks for the bump 🙂
No problem, congrats on having 50k all time concurrent players on steam you talentless morons.
For the longest time DOS2 had the 90k as the most played CRPG, second place isn't so bad for a newcomer company that needed kickstarter money to make their games, as opposed to Larian that has been making games for like two decades now
Cope
Didn't Larian also need kickstarter money though
Damn, you guys are really insecure, huh?
Insecure about what? The game is fricking mediocre cheap shit and gets shilled here fricking constantly.
Frick you and frick the c**t mod that allows you this freedom on Ganker, Boris.
>I'M NOT INSECURE I'M NOT INSECURE I'M NOT INSECURE I'M NOT INSECURE I'M NOT INSECURE
Okay, schizo.
>Kills Zariel so she won't bother Karlach anymore
No need to thank me, Larianbros
Is there a good counter to unholy nimbus? Getting dazed isn't cool.
Ranged archers and magic ray casters
Give me a busted build I can respec one of my party members into so I can steamroll the last dungeon in Kingmaker. Please.
Ranger with favored enemy fey (rank 3) and a fire+earth kineticist
Based Ekun has me covered on the ranger part. Guess I'll stop being a lazy frick and try to understand kineticists.