>play Persona
>realize you're spending weeks of your life making a video game character lead a better daily life than you, making new friends who he hangs out with every day, going out doing a ton of activities, building his charisma, bravery, etc
>continue to waste weeks of your life playing a video game
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It's fricking expensive to leave the house for ANY reason these days.
I say make some online friends, it's cheaper and tends to be more interesting.
>It's fricking expensive to leave the house for ANY reason these days
This. I felt like I was rich as frick back in 2018 making $42k a year. I never checked my bank account and lived like a fricking king.
Today, I get paid $5k more and watch as my savings gets moved to my checking account to pay my bills (rent, electricity, and internet, nothing else). What the frick happened? Can't have anything nice anymore.
I'll never forgive our overlords for the scamdemic.
>pay my bills (rent)
>I'll never forgive our overlords for the scamdemic.
You LITERALLY have an overlord and you're mad about COVID? what a cuckold.
Well I can't afford a house now can I? So what else can I do?
I was so close to being able to purchase a house outright in cash in 2020 and then the scamdemic fricked the housing market.
It "fricked" it by making it go up in price???
You have zero fricking clue, dude.
Yes. I was only $5000 away from being able to purchase a decent house for about $100k.
That same house is now valued at $350k.
My dream was destroyed because of the scamdemic, not to mention everybody turned on me and I almost lost my job for not taking the "vaccine".
If it weren't for covid, I'd still be living the good life. It ruined everything.
>I was only $5000 away from being able to purchase a decent house for about $100k.
>That same house is now valued at $350k.
well good for the person who owns the fricking house.
Do you seriously not know what a market is? What tortured train of logic could possibly explain the backwards conclusion you've drawn from this?
It's a terrible market for first time buyers. That's indisputable.
lmao what the hell even is your point? youre moronic
>most israeli post itt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare
oy vey.
extremely israeli post
a home should be a place where you live, not a speculuative investment
>what else can I do?
Live in the woods you fricking moron.
i bought a house when i was making 42k a year, granted it was in 2015, but if youre making more now you dont have much of an excuse.
lol, literal pod living in a couple of years
i almost feel sorry for you guys
almost
describe your social life now, internet does not count.
Good way to meet discord troons
Online "friends" are 90% of the time social morons and attention prostitutes who never talk to you unless you initiate
The 10% are nice and worth keeping at least.
So just like normies out in the "real world"
how do you make online friends? i used to meet people through video game servers, but matchmaking has killed that. what games are good for this
inline skates or a bike and you're good to go
Online friends are not friends, they are just unknown people you talk to. You don't know a single thing about them only what they tell you
You could say the same of anyone you meet and befriend, including close family and friends you've known for a majority of your life.
For as social as we are, we as a species are not obligated to lay out our full private lives to one another, and no matter how much trust is forged, there's some details we'll never truly speak of out of fear that those details could be used against us, and thus, our trust is broken.
this is the cope boomers (actual boomers, not meme ones) have been telling themselves for 20 years
>online
>friends
homies be like
>why don't you just go outside?
god i hate going out in my car so much there's always so many fricking cars on the road, so many people
Same. I like driving, but traffic fricking sucks.
Driving out in the empty highlands of Colorado/Wyoming and the deserts of Nevada/Arizona is one of the most enjoyable and enlightening things I've ever done, but frick commuting in traffic day in and day out.
And yet, if we stopped cars, horses would be everywhere. And you'd still be complaining.
Or you could, you know, make cities walkable for human beings.
Then you wouldn't need a care to do literally anything.
I would only go outside if there were no people.
get a bike moron
grim
ive been going out with no need or purpose a lot lately, just trying to get out, alone with my thoughts. it has really hammered home how depressing it is to live in america. at least if youre in a suburban flyover area and not a major city. but then of course if youre in a major city you have crime and financial issues.
its just parking lots, gas stations, etc. i can go to my urban center and it's actually nice and walkable, but ive basically just been walking around there so many times and i dont really know what else to do
>it has really hammered home how depressing it is to live in america. at least if youre in a suburban flyover area and not a major city.
>major city
lmao my Black person. you dont know what depression is until you lived in a major city. crime, filth, Black folk, crime, pollution, Black folk.
be fricking happy you're poor and in the countryside.
not poor or in the countryside. if i were id have some nature right outside my doorstep; suburban means it's just a bunch of asphalt
i agree that living in a shithole like philadelphia would be pretty garbage.
LA and nyc would have plenty to do just cost a shit ton
>listing two garbage shitholes
bruh.
theyre huge places. nyc would definitely be junk in the bronx or some shit. but in manhattan, brooklyn, even queens, its pretty good. same with la. yeah you got places with hobos in tents but you can avoid those areas. i will say that ever since covid, LA's downtown area has been utter shit and dead so that's sad. but still, you have unlimited choice of meetups/conventions/events/anything to do and that's just nice to have
ok but youre complaining about asphalt and living in the suburbs but you list two concrete jungles full of garbage.
because i have the negatives of an urban environment without the positives. im not surrounded by beautiful nature but theres nothing to do except go to walmart and go to a gas station. in an urban environment, ironically they usually have better greenery with their park systems as well as a lot to do and you can walk around. my problem isnt the asphalt itself. it's that it's JUST asphalt. im guessing you dont live in the suburbs, grass is always greener i guess
>in an urban environment, ironically they usually have better greenery with their park systems
dude. i live in chicago. lmao. this is a real funny grass is greener on the other side situation.
you know where i can go? down the street to a liquor store, or a mexican place, or a burger king. dude theres nothing here unless you are talking about living in downtown of these major cities.
on more thing, want to know what youll be hearing almost every second of the day in a big city? cars honking and emergency sirens. dude this is a wasteland do not pine to live here.
I live in LA and it fricking sucks. Food is alright I guess but learning to cook is way better in the long run. So many homeless druggies, everything costs way too much, the air is shit. It's a fricking concrete jungle and I can't wait to leave once I've saved enough.
I also guarantee anything you'd do here you'd get tired of after a few months and want to leave as well. If you're here for concerts and events just fly and stay the night, living here is nightmare. Don't even get me started on 2 hour commutes
You dont enjoy the idea of having anything you could possibly want near you? I just feel isolated out here man. I hear you though, that shit doesnt sound fun. Just like the idea of being able to meet more people with more in common. It's not easy in the suburbs
>dude theres nothing here unless you are talking about living in downtown of these major cities.
Oh yeah there we go then. I'm pretty much specifically talking about downtown and the areas directly surrounding it. The really dense areas with skyscrapers and shit. I know it's completely unrealistic to live there because it's so expensive so i was just speaking from a hypothetical standpoint
yeah well maybe youll like, maybe youll get used to the constant noise. i couldnt do it long before i felt that i needed to get away from all of these fricking people everywhere.
idk anymore honestly, maybe i need to take a trip for a few days and see if it would tip me off. i love peace and quiet and i know that living in a rural area would be great for me, but the problem is as a man you just have an instinctual urge to go for women and big cities are where women are. yeah theres women here, obese and ugly ones
do what i did. find a woman from an urban wasteland that wants to get the frick out too. they're out there.
my wife and i are up 3 babies now and shes been long sold on a rural home with a bit of land thats far away from city problems.
what would you recommend is the best place to look unironically. I know theyre out there but they just dont seem to ever leave their homes
theres probably better places, but hinge worked for me and my friend whos getting married to a good woman soon.
just be honest with yourself and the women you meet
Nowhere since it's not gonna work for you unless you're outrageously handsome.
Stop feeding people false hope normalhomosexual.
bitter and sad
Doesn't take a genius to figure out that if things have been one way for twenty years they won't change just because you go to a shitty bar or download an app who's entire purpose is to drain cash from lonely morons and provide attention for prostitutes.
you can keep making excuses for yourself all you want while people are out there living their lives. or you can get off your ass.
Imagine being moronic enough to try when failure is the same as death.
>failure is the same as death
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
No point in doing something that only has one outcome which is also the guaranteed outcome.
I've lived in Chinese industrial zone cities, at one point in a slum alleyway where water would pour down the walls through an insane jungle of cables and you could hear people in other apartments keeping a live pig in their bathtub.
Los Angeles is way more grey and dust-blasted and depressing and I get pissed off every time I have to go there.
It always reminds me of how Rogue Squadron on the Gamecube had AMAZING TESSELATION TECHNOLOGY to render an infinitely greebled death star but instead of turbolaser turrets it's shitty minimalls and homeless shanties
Or maybe you yourselves are depressed.
yeah man im so depressed not living around a bunch of Black folk and crime anymore. those were the days.
Is this a stealth /n/ thread?
If you actually went outside further than around the block you’d be surprised
Go outside and do what?
Hike, relax, have picnics, just walking or biking. If you live in an urban shithole too far from any parks, that's of course not really an option but it is good for you to get at least some sun somehow.
I never understood why this version of the image was some kind of "gotcha". If you step out of the few urban areas of America, it's soulless highway stops built into nature. There are no comfy rural or suburban areas, everything is awful or pure nature.
>There are no comfy rural or suburban areas
You're either not American, or you've never left the area you live in.
god bless. way too many homosexuals in this thread think the only way to live is near large urban centers.
every non american thinks america is just LA, san Fran, and new york
god bless the Dixie States
>There are no comfy rural or suburban areas
So you've never been here, got it.
I am a north carolinian. Don't call me a european you fricking yankee.
>yankee
Hot shit from North Carolina lmao. No wonder your northern ass thinks there's nowhere comfy.
>shitting on a NCuck for being a northerner
SChad, Georgiagay or Flo Rida detected
>I am a north carolinian
If that's true than you'd know there's plenty of comfy rural areas even just in your own state.
The only places in NC I would call comfy are New Bern and the mountainous areas west and north of Asheville. Few and far between. The piedmont is extremely fricking soulless and full of carpetbaggers.
>everything is awful or pure nature
How fricking soulless do you have to be to think playing around outside in nature is somehow a bad thing, let alone worse than literally anything you can do in a city?
>Oh, thank god I can CONSOOM overwrought non-culture, cope about dead artists, spend too much money on useless bullshit I could get better of and cheaper if I would just do it myself instead of having to touch grass! Could you imagine? I MIGHT SNEEZE
Urbanites are actually unclean. You have unironic spiritual damage.
I don't think the point of that image was just to try to disprove that america has green space or something, it was an example of how a lot of towns/streets (even if they aren't bad as the pic) don't really encourage just going out and interacting with people, and are scaled to and designed for cars, not human beings. This on top of the increasing feelings of isolation with the internet and social media makes suburbia feel like a cold place
shit sorry I forgot my image, I meant to post this vaguely relevant book cover
>it was an example of how a lot of towns/streets (even if they aren't bad as the pic) don't really encourage just going out and interacting with people
Except it's not an urban area but just a pit stop in the middle of nowhere.
They don't have to be that bad, like I said. I don't really think this is even a hot take or anything, I could throw a bunch of darts at a map of tri state area and say that the towns closest to wherever the darts landed very likely suck to walk around in (given that I didn't land on a college town or an actual city or something). I'm not one of those vehement "BAN CARS" guys, but frick, things could be a bit better than this, is that really a crazy thing to say
>either capitalist dystopia or absolute fricking nothing
mutts have it hard huh
>euros seething about pure nature
its max comfy just taking 5 steps off the sidewalk and being in the middle of the woods to frick around
Do you even understand how stupid you sound?
You're not making any meaningful relationships in MCdonaldland, and unless you befriend a tree, you won't make any relationship whatsoever in a fricking forest
ok? I dont care homosexual go back to your posh nails done you city slicker Im going backpacking
maybe read the fricking reply chain before just juping into a conversation like the homosexual that you are?
how about you go back to getting stabbed by a paki in your walkable city instead?
>mutt
>brings immigrats out of nowhere
lmao checks out
>be white british
>be minority in my own capital
lmao.
>>be white british
Never read a bigger oyxmoron in my life.
>implying the first thing fellow euros bring up when a britoid or frog speaks up isnt about getting stabbed by brown people
Normalgay complaint.
No seriously is your argument that nature existing means meaningful relationships can't be formed? What's your complaint? City planning is what needs and overhaul, the uninterrupted nature is fine.
> What's your complaint?
OP is saying that you should just le go outside xdxd to make friends instead of playing persona.
And outside is either a horrible dystopia or a bunch of trees.
The le go outside argument is as moronic as it gets
Absolute fricking nothing is the best.
>BRO JUST LEAVE TOWN
yeah? why don't you? whats hard about that?
people have lives you fricking hippies.
You don't have to uproot your life to enjoy some time in the outdoors you soft bellied city shit.
whats the problem? i moved out of my parents house and got my own house one town over. i still see them on the weekends
Shits expensive
Personally I've just seen way to many coworkers leave town only to end up coming back months later. If those frickers couldn't make it I sure as hell can't
well where did they go and why did they come back?
I know this is supposed to be an epic reddit own but your post is the quintissential american experience. The country was founded because we left br*tain since they didnt want us, american literature constantly have people just leave when they arent welcome and find somewhere to belong elsewhere. Shit man thats all our country did for the first hundred years was leave town and go west
little baby truckstop road meet road city
>burgerpunk
God i wish my country had some real fricking roads, i'd be able to go anywhere
yeah
do you live here?
Straight out of my anno save
all those parking lots could be used to make homes for the homeless and minorities, then we can carpet bomb them.
have a nice day sick frick
not him but wtf
yeah let me just take a stroll on what's probably somebody's land while probably getting on the cops called on me purely for having too high of visibility among dozens of people concealed in their cars
You don't live here.
persona bgms for this feel?
%3D
fvckin SOVL
>born decently attractive and tall
>autistically make sure i look my best always
>go to bars alone just for an excuse to get out usually after gaming for several hours.
>buy drinks and just chill on my phone
>keep being harassed by both woman and gay men
>one time a guy really went out of his way to buy me a shot he got the bat-waitress after i told him im good to hand me one anyways
>another time a older woman sat next to me and bought me drinks for 3 hours just for me to not make a move and her leave in a huff suddenly
>usually leave embarrassed
Suffering to be this socially awkward
I legit dont get the appeal of going to bars alone. Even with friends its just kinda fricking boring and expensive
Why would you willingly go to some place to get harassed when you do nothing but things that you could at the comfort of your place? I understand women enjoy the attention, but what do you get out of it?
Just an excuse to get out of the house, idk what else to do some nights
Grim, I'd tell you to find something else to do it but it sounds to me like it's a little ritual you do to keep a semblance of normalcy in your life.
You just love attention, coy bawd.
>Oh I just love overpaying for booze and being harassed by horny goons!!
Why the frick are you going to the bar at all? There is one reason why anyone goes to a bar and it's to hook up
Unironically download Alltrails or just Google what trails are nearby, admission tends to be very cheap, if not free, and it allows you to get some sun and enjoy nature without having to interact with too many people
This topic is so consistently moronic that I cannot be convinced it's not mostly bot posts at this point.
leave the fricking cities, my guys
This is either California or Arizona (also California). I gotta get the frick outta here. This shithole is making me miserable.
/thread
A huge reason why Japanese cities are so good is because they are designed with pedestrians in mind and they have great public transit. Walkable cities have so much more character and beauty, and it's healthier because people are getting exercise from walking instead of sitting on their fat asses in cars.
Most cities in North America are hellscapes designed for cars, pedestrians are treated like garbage and public transit is highly flawed or non-existent. You're pretty much forced to have a car. And not surprisingly they have an obesity epidemic as a result. Also if you're too young to drive a car you're atomized, it's not shocking that young people flock to solitary habits like video games and browsing the internet over going outside (a habit which they retain into adulthood).
>it's not shocking that young people flock to solitary habits like video games and browsing the internet over going outside
USA is known for its sociable population compared to Europeans who are more reserved lmao. Japan has one of the worst hikikomori epidemic of any country. Just admit you're mad you can't drive because you're underage
>USA is known for its sociable population compared to Europeans who are more reserved lmao
lol in what life buddy, in what life
Even worse if your upbringing doesn't help build unbreakable confidence, people are so consistently moronic and negligent while driving that anyone with even the slightest bit of doubt and fear for their life isn't going to feel comfortable trying to drive where there's busy traffic, or worse yet if you're out in the countryside or have to commute through interstates that go through nature-heavy roads, a chance for nature to lash out at these manmade constructs through a moronic buck trotting out of the woods and directly into a speeding car.
By the time I was getting old enough to consider driving, I was already an anxiety-ridden fricking mess from how often I've heard about or witnessed accidents where I lived, and far too many close calls happened otherwise. Nothing was convincing me I'd be safe driving unless it was at an extremely unorthodox time where traffic is nonexistent like the midnight hours, but then that comes with its own issues too.
I don't like how flimsy these vital vehicles are. I don't like knowing that someone else's frickup or a freak accident from Mother Nature herself could cost me vital daily functionality or even my life outright. Circumstances be damned, I'm mooching off of family that understands my fears and is willing to drive me to where I need to go until I need to start doing everything through delivery instead.
Jesus, just take a defensive driving course and you'll be fine. Only children are legitimately crippled by what ifs and hypotheticals like you are.
You can do both
You can get a job
You can go to weekend school
You can make friends and go out
You can go home and play games
once you live a real life video games become pointless.
Not true
I hated vidya when I was staying in my room all day, I hated everything. Once I made friends and began going out, improved myself, games got fun again.
lol you and I both know you're still a massive fricking loser.
how
>realize i have add
>come up with a daily schedule to organize my life and start using alarms to fight waiting mode
>reward myself with some free time for every 20-50 minutes of work
>go back to college
>start lifting
>get a cool zoomer haircut that people on Ganker would laugh at
>buy more stylish clothes
>text high school friends
>make an effort to make new friends
like when this girl told me she was going to be singing at some pub, old me would've said great and that's it, but I just kept forcing myself to get into social situation so I asked her if I could come, of course she said yes. Ended up drinking with her and her friends after her show was over, then went with her group of friends to the beach and smoked some weed
>make an absolute effort to not be a wallflower
>turns out people, both girls and dudes, generally aren't c**ts and if you talk to them they'll be quite friendly
Life's not perfect, I don't have nearly enough money to have a great social life and I can't go out nearly as much as some of my friends, but it's incredible how far you can go if you put your mind to it.
i make people uncomfortable just by being around, im happy for you anon regardless
thats the most moronic thing I've read this week. What the frick is the point of any art then
do you just stop seeing movies, reading books or looking for music you like because you have a satisfying job and support system? Would you say 'why would I walk around a museum when I feel fulfilled staring at my four year old?'
the point of gaming, or any form of entertainment isn't just to kill time, its to give you some sort of experience that you aren't able to have in your regular life.
its all escapism. if you actually lived a cool adventurous life you wouldn't sitting on a couch doing fake adventures with a controller. its the same reason why so many people ;play as female toons. they desire to be with a woman so they create one.
my bad geez I didn't realize indiana jones posted here
i mean cmon go buy a motorcycle or something. you don't have to be indiana jones lmao
Im saying your point is fricking stupid, you're saying that once your life reaches some magical threshold, you no longer need to consume art, and in turn any desire to seek out any art or entertainment is born purely out of some deficiency in the persons own life or some hole they need to fill. Think about that, isn't that an awful way to look at the world?
>consume art
cmon homosexual. there are more types of art than just video games. get over yourself
>ART ART ART lmao loser
?
what are you on about? Did you even read the original reply, I'm talking about more than just video games (but videogames are included). I'm not trying to fling shit, but you should realize how what you were saying was kind of ridiculous
also learn to quote and reply
you're the one whining about living a boring life. im over here flexing on you. if you are going to stay down on your knees, go ahead and suck my dick while you're there
you don't have to view every conversation you have on the internet as a confrontation or a debate
we could just talk
nice way to back out, pussy
was I the one really backing out here?
I was willing to engage with whatever you had to say, but the problem is you didn't fricking say anything, you just kept repeating what you were saying instead of addressing anything I had to say about it. By saying I want to talk, I'm asking you to stop resorting to
>my lifes better than yours homosexual eat shit suck a dick pussy go touch grass loser >:)
and actually try to read and respond to what I'm typing
you first response literally started with "Im saying your point is fricking stupid" or did you forget? Don't pretend to be scholarly now that you have nothing else to say. Like I said, its a real pussy way to back out and you were the one that brought hostility. You really can't be this moronic. can you? You gave me zero reasons to respond nicely.
Im asking you to flat out respond at all, don't mistaken that for me asking for a hug
engrish
You really don't know that video games are just created to line the pockets of men smarter and more powerful than you that know how to appeal to your lowly base addictions and take your money? Whew lad, its probably best that you stay inside all day. Society does not need you.
dont listen to him, getting a motorcycle doesn't magically make you enjoy life.
yes, it's nice having one but it's not all sunshine
>summer is unbearable
>winter is unridable
>uncomfortable on long trips unless you shell out for a cruiser and by that point you might as well get a car
>can't take anything that won't fit in your backback/side bags
it was just an example. are you really that much of a brainlet that you only think in absolutes? go practice turning apples in your head
I mean success with women is absolute? You either succeed because you have the potential to succeed or you don't have the potential to succeed and fail endlessly. You yourself have very little input on this since it's out of ones control.
yeah, that defeatist attitude is really doing wonders for you. keep reading those self-help books, chum
Things where not any different when I wasn't a "defeatist". Likewise nothing would change if I stopped being one.
stop doing the same shit every day
It's not as if I do the exact same shit every single day in and out. I doubt that changing my routine would have any meaningful impact since I haven't spoken to a woman in around five years if we ignore work and school related matters. Doing something new would not change anything.
if i hit rock bottom, i would be trying new and bold things. a paradigm shift of your life and being. like if i told you that you die of cancer in a a year. wouldn't you live your life differently?
Not really? If anything having only a year left would make me much less interested in taking massive risks. Why bother wasting your time on uncertainties when I could spend my last days enjoying what I like?
but it doesn't sound like you enjoy anything
>he doesn't raid ancient temples on his off days
fricking pleb
Where do you go to find demons to make deals with? I want a persona bro.
any catholic church will do
It's basically a high level cope post from some jaded burnout homosexual who probably faps more often in day than he bathes and brushes his teeth per week. The reason I say this is because it implies that person only plays video games because they have no other options. Either that or they just tried a RANDOM activity that had zero chance of meshing with them like karaoke or bowling with co-workers, didn't like it or felt anxiety and decided that the outside world has nothing better to offer than what furry porn, Ganker and league of legends already provides.
People think the problem is that there's some magical activity out there giving them joy and fulfillment and then people hi five you afterwards and you get free pussy. In reality the activities are out there and some of them can be done for $40 ~ $0 but the problem isn't the adventure that sucks, it's the main character fricking sucks.
>who probably faps more often in day than he bathes and brushes his teeth per week
>literally me
man when you said it like that it sounds pretty bad...
do you not shower after a fap session?
no? why in the world would I do that? What reason could anyone possibly have for doing that?
I shower after I poop
to get the fap smell off, the smell that everyone knows is the smell someone has after sex/masturbation
Honestly it's the reason / behavior / mindset surrounding it that would determine if it's bad, because you could still be doing okay in other areas but frustrated about things outside of your control. I'm not enough of an egotistical homosexual to go on Ganker and spit some David Goggins dopamine detox nofap shit to a stranger though so don't think too much about it.
It really isn't that hard lol
I play ~20 hours a week on top of competing in amateur sport 10 hours a week, working a full time job, married, and hanging out with friends regularly both on and offline.
Just do it lol
>You can get a job
What job? Flipping burgers or being a slave for amazon warehouse?
>You can go to weekend school
Normalgays never had to do this, why do you think it will help you?
>You can make friends
Where? Going to be befriend the 40 year olds at your weekend school?
>You can go home and play games
Only accurate part of your post
real life doesn't have virgin females or superpowers
This. Women are all prostitutes after 15.
Unironically
>want to stop being a neet
>look at average income
>look at average apartment cost
>look at average price of a house
>continue being a neet
>knows that he can't do better than the average and just gives up
grim
I'm already below the average by being a neet
If I was exceptional in any way I wouldn't be a depressed neet in the first place.
There is no spontaneous magical event that will convert you into a happy normalgay
Enjoy the futile hellscape of our modern world
there are a few but they're pretty well gatekept and you need money and time
normalgays have money, but no time
neets have time, but no money
In other words you need to be born into the right family in the right place at the right time.
Yeah, that's business as usual.
What country should I move to as an amerifat? Preferably
>Yuro
>Career opportunities
>ease of getting citizenship
what color is your skin, this unironically matters
im white anglo
you're fricked unless you already have good job qualifications
Nothing is gonna change plus those countries gdp are supported by a singular industry, they will be the first ones raped in WW3
at least I'd be able to fight for something worth dying for. The thought of enlisting for the McArmy to die for 8 lane interstates just fills me with dread
the european union is just as globohomosexual as america is. I guess you'd have a point for small slavic countries but they realistically stand no chance of making it long term
We are talking about infrastructure you inbred swine
Is there even a reason to play P4 Golden after you Black folk basically spoiled Adachi for me?
Yeah bro. Don't bother with it. Plot twists at the end are the only real reason why anyone plays video games. Entire remaining 95% of vidya is obviously pointless filler.
Hate to agree with the anon when your game is a murder mystery spoiling the murderer tends to do that
If I made infinite money from killing push-over monsters I'd be going out too.
This. JRPG protagonists have it so easy.
Yeah if I get like $5000 for beating up random thugs in Kamurocho I'd do it too
Also not starting shit with a certain 7' neckbeard fedora
>Also not starting shit with a certain 7' neckbeard fedora
That's only a worry if you come unprepared.
This is one of the reasons I play RPGs, getting money IRL is the most arduous annoying shit you can do unless you're born with it or you don't mind being a piece of shit that robs others of their hard earned money. In medieval fantasy you can just go to your nearest Guild Hall and get some "Slay 10 Wolves" quest and that's it, no boring shitty work. In games like Persona or modern fantasy in general it's even better because you can farm money to spend IRL, also how the frick do you explain to the IRS where you got all that money?
I dont think the IRS gives a shit unless its payments over 10k
Ah, so that's why money you get from battle is capped just below 10k burgerbucks.
I need a job
Maybe you could just take it as a source of inspiration and try to better yourself or make closer connections with the people around you. You know, admire the art and experience and let it help you reflect on your own life or some gay shit like that
Making friends in Persona is hardly analogous to making friends in real life, real conversations aren't multiple choice
>real conversations aren't multiple choice
what
>he doesn’t get the multiple choice pop ups in his head
Is this related to those people who can’t see an Apple in their mind?
>low-rolled autist IRL
>constantly failing speech checks with girls
it's so fricking over, bros. How do I grind speech?
I spent a year in college being the annoying weird guy who won't frick off despite being hated to grind social skills. Didn't actually make any college friends, closest was a girl who just wanted an emotional tampon between boyfriends and otherwise would always give silent treatment.
I turn 30 soon and I have a whole two annoyingly busy friends for all my efforts.
More like it’s not real because you’re not the center of the fricking universe that everyone worships the feet of for no fricking reason
Irl dojima and many others would’ve told your nosy ass to frick right off, especially once you started trying to play professor therapist man and pushing into their most vulnerable and hidden secrets because you’re such a wonderful kid and dear friend
Yeah this. Commonest communication tactic that you see online is to ask other people questions and that everyone is super happy to talk about themselves and that you don't even have to say anything except ask them questions to make friends.
Uh no, that's how it works in a video game, you cant be a silent protagagonist that everyone spills their guts out to irl.
I tried
This is not what the outside looks like, even in the US most places won't look like this.
I think P4 captured the essence of a small town pretty well.
>OP learns what escapism is
>not having other hobbies that also improve your life
Is there anywhere within America I can move to give my son a real childhood instead of isolationary burgerpunk dystopia?
small towns or some suburbs are your best bet
One of those states no one cares about. There's a Family Guy gag about it.
anywhere that isnt a city. Anywhere with actual trees and animals and non lawn grass. Something were you can smell anything but gasoline
As a Marylander I concur
how do i awaken my persona and go on wacky adventures
figure out how to kill your super ego. start by doing really bold things that are extremely uncomfortable. start by taking an ice cold shower instead of hot, every day. go from there
Psychedelics
Real life is always a disappointment.
>realize you're spending weeks of your life making a video game character lead a better daily life than you, making new friends who he hangs out with every day, going out doing a ton of activities, building his charisma, bravery, etc
no. I had tons of friends and did all sorts of fun stuff during school. In fact it was frustrating playing through persona as such a beta guy that had awkward interactions with people in band and some random nurse. it took so long to go anywhere with the girls, and then all you get is a fade to black scene. I was playing the whole time expecting to close the deal in a week, but the mc was dense as frick in this this game.
You're supposed to actually use the game as an example to better your one life numb nuts.
>having a social life
Not worth it.
The last panel is a lie unless you're a giga introvert or forced yourself to hang out with people that don't share your interests
The entire issue is if your interests are things like video games or anime then all the people who share your interests don't go out. If you go to a bar you're not going to meet people who like collecting hentai like you, you're going to meet people who have normalgay hobbies
>dude if you like the same shit that means you will be friends 😀
Bullshit. I love talking to people about shit they know nothing about. Its fun af. If they know everything I know what is even the point of talking?
i have lived this. it is accurate
>bullied extremely hard in school
>No friends as people would be dragged down to my level
>Autism so slow development and I would say I am like 2 years slower than everyone else
>scared to leave the house as people still sometimes pick on me despite the fact its been about 5 years now
>Never learnt how to socailise so cant make new friends
Its over for me
this is why I stay here, honestly knowing people out there have experienced nearly the same thing helps as I know im not alone even if they are a million miles away
How do I stop being depressed and drinking myself to death every night
Just convince yourself that drinking is reddit.
>Arc-V fanart
Giving me Nam flashbacks
stop buying alcohol
drink water, play video games instead
buy a stationary bike and ride that while playing games
buy a gallon of chocolate milk every day instead of liquor
Just look at it like training. When you finish you'll be ready to go out in your world and make a friend.
>Live in Japan
>One of the safest countries in the world
>A homogeneous society where you share metaphysical comradery with every citizen speaking the same language sharing the same history and culture
>Aside from schizos who cannot integrate themselves in society, and a work culture that can be said to sometimes be stressful (No, getting drunk with your boss isn't stress), you at least have the knowledge that you can have a future.
As opposed to the West where making male friendship is hard due to Whites self-hating themselves, Black person culture has completely destroyed proper development of actual cool sub-cultures, you cannot be as open since you'd be labeled politically incorrect and fired from your job, etc.
It’s true that you need to keep your power level hidden, but you’re making it seem like everyone is out to get you and the real world is nothing like that.
Not intentionally, but you know that if you come across that one person, you bet your ass you could get in trouble. Don't tell me that that isn't the first thing someone would do if you ever get into an altercation, god forbid you're put on social media. And if you're in a blue state, it's even worse.
Lol nah, I love Japan but I would never live in the place simply because I'm not Japanese and I don't want to shit on the place. Let me tell you something, you in your third world, that you consider a shithole is much better than in America aside from economic factors and living standards. I never said I was "lonely" I can literally go outside and talk with random morons about normie shit, people make it seem like it's hard to get friends past high school and that simply is not true.
That's true, I personally have great experience with talking to people I meet on the bus.
If you like Japan so much why don’t you move there? I live in the motherfricking third world country and even I know some people who got pretty much permanent work visas for highly skilled jobs with just an engineering degree. You could grind a few years of community college and move to Japan if you like them so much. But let me tell you as someone who met a lot of Japanese people, if you’re a loner in America you’ll be a loner anywhere.
Lots of Adachis ITT
Was there something like this in Persona 3? Persona 5 had the cosmo burger, and Persona 4 with the mega beef bowl. Was there something you needed max stats to do in Persona 3?
>3,000 yen mega beef bowl
I guess that'd be a lot in America for that amount of food. It's $21, honestly food challenges in America are more expensive, they'll give you like $150 in food and see if you can eat all of it, so in comparison a $20 food challenge is really nothing, but you get to eat a lot of food for $20 VS $150.
Food in Japan is exceptionally cheap, but nobody makes any money either, so I guess that's from a rich American tourist's perspective.
In America there are people who are literal eating professionals. You can’t have a challenge for normal people because competitive eaters would just eat there for free all the time.
Mukbangs are a blight on humanity, and the people who do them are animals.
Some of the greatest pro eaters are Japanese
>le just go outside xdxd
The part that you homosexuals don't understand, which is the main selling point of persona in japan is the high school life.
In most countries, you only have free time to fool around in highschool and if you missed out on that, you will never experience that in your life.
>b-but college!!!
in actual developed countries, college is literally studing your ass off and trying to get work experience to land an ok job. Only social studies morons can fool around and they always end up as homeless durg addicts.
This is also the reason why persona would never work outside of a high school setting, no matter how much mutts insist on it.
>its another /LULZ/ homosexual who is obsessed with muh youth and highschool
highschool fricking sucked idk why you losers obsess over that shit as if it wasnt the most boring experience imaginable
They don't live in the real world
>my high school life sucked so yours and everybody elses did as well!!!!!
moron
>be loser
>highschool sucks
>romanticize it based off fiction
>get told no it did actually suck just move on
>n-no you dont understand your only saying that because your experience sucked!!!
have a nice day
>be loser
>project yourself into everybody else just to cope about it
moron
>got to go to parties often
>close group of friends
>got a gf and got laid
stop romanticizing fiction homosexual and get started on your life instead of being a worthless neet crying about how he wasnt handed the perfect life by god
>everybody's life is like mine!!!!!
>-i-ii-i-i'm totally not projecting tho!!!!!
moron
>in actual developed countries, college is literally studing your ass off and trying to get work experience to land an ok job.
if you don't have free time on weekends, you're just doing it wrong
i know people doing STEM degrees who passed with good marks, had part time jobs, were involved in engineering associations, and still had a social life, went out for drinks at least once each week, worked out and had hobbies like martial arts lessons 3xweek
I was able to hold a job, be a full time athlete, AND have parties/relax on weekends. This was on top of getting a bachelors in chemistry a semester early by taking extra classes. You need to just git gud at time management
from my experience, the more things you do, the better your time management is, and the more you can achieve
meanwhile people who don't do shit will b***h that they don't have time for anything
Most people make their long-time friends in uni compared to HS. Most people I know have little to no contact with their HS friends
This just seems like crab in a bucket cope to me
>Most people make their long-time friends in uni compared to HS
How is that knowledge supposed to be useful unless he's 18? A 30 something year old man, or even late 20s unless you look exceptionally good/young, is not going to fit in socially at uni
dunno, I myself am 19, I guess I just imagine the people posting here to be in the same age range as me.
I have made more friends in uni than I ever have in HS. I was a friendless loner back then since I was an exchange student, and still sometimes regret it to the point of anguish. I just hate it when anons regard everything as "cope" to bring others down.
>I myself am 19
Why are you commenting on this topic then dumbass kid? No one angsts over not having a life at 19, it's when you get old that it sets in how fricked you are.
Because I know what it was like to be a friendless loser that copes by playing Persona 5 and hoping a car runs me over on my way to school.
Even if I have an enjoyable 20s it's not like it will retroactively fix me missing out on everything regarding my formative teenage years.
You'll get over it. I didn't have a single friend in high school. Literally ate lunch in a dark corner of the school. A better 20s will make up for it.
Holy frick are you really this young
Your teens are like 6 years of your life you dumb fricking kid, listen to me you frickin dipshit, I’m trying to be polite, yes it fricking will
Get the frick over your shitty childhood or you will be 30 wondering why you couldn’t just do exactly that before you threw another 10 years down the gutter
Teen years mean nothing
These threads are fricking embarrassing. It's a work of fiction you moron. If playing a video game, watching a movie, or reading a book make you this insecure it's entirely a you problem.
Its quite simple. Theres no fail state in the social part of persona, you're free to pursue whatever person you want or achieve the academic goal you want without the stress of crashing and burning.
>Theres no fail state in the social part of persona
Based Persona 3. Such a great game and not just a suck off sim.
translation:
>I just LOVE getting cucked
It's over for doorcels.
In persona 3 and 4 you do get fricked if you choose the wrong answers
does anyone have examples of games that have literal fail states for their "social" parts? Im not disagreeing with you at all, I was just thinking about it and how in a lot of games the social parts are just a reward to the main gameplay which does have a fail state or something.
the closest thing I can think of is disco elysium with the morale meter
I couldn't finish it because I hated it but life is strange
VtMB, maybe depending on what you mean exactly
Off the top of my head
Deus ex HR and MD dialogue battles
what only playing persona 5 does to a mfer
Weeks? The persona games from 3 upwards take 2 weekends at most to finish unless you are farming for levels.
And then you can just kill death to gain loads.
These are 80+ hour games, unless you're no-lifing or simply skipping everything it's gonna take a lot longer than that.
Just the cutscenes of P5 by themselves take up nearly two entire days of your life.
>play video game
>objective: make friends
>talk to person
>they dont dismiss me
>they dont blow me off
>they dont spread lies about me behind my back
>they dont lie to me
yea gee why don't I do that in real life huh
>kiwiBlack person wondering why he doesnt have friends irl
regardless you just have to keep people in arms reach at all times. Only like 1 in 20 people are ever worth forming a close friendship and trusting them anyways
Sounds like you needed to be a better judge of character. Unfortunately, if you're beyond school age, making real friends is basically impossible.
I only played persona 4 and it was fricking gay. Straight up feels like some shit a fat 14 year old girl would play.
how insecure are you
Humans are pure trash in general.
Who would want to interact with them?
>had a miserable time in school
>had a miserable time in high school
>had an alright time in college
>had a shit time looking for work post-college
>cut off family right before covid hit
>had the most peace and quiet I've ever had in my life
>found new hobbies and a new career
>made the mistake of reaching out to family again
>instantly drowned in drama and other bullshit
This whole "your best years are in highschool" is just normalgay cope.
Why yes everybody had the exact same high school experience as you, they're jus lying to cope
>made the mistake of reaching out to family again
Well, at least you know it's a mistake so you can avoid doing it in the future.
I actually had a friend who said this exact thing after playing P5. He said it was too much like just going out and living his life.
So, he started going to the gym every day, got married, and has a family now.
So much good came from P5 sucking.
Based. Did the same. Never got more than maybe 20 hours in. I'll never touch that shitty game again, but damn did it motivate me. I'm now 150lbs down from 310lbs and can bench over 400lbs.
Persona is a terrible game, but a great wake up call. GET YOUR FRICKING LIFE IN ORDER .
I shouldn't have split the difference. I played P5, lost 75 lbs so I'm still 240. Bought a house, but don't have a family.
I should have rejected Persona entirely and I would have had a life like my buddy.
>GET YOUR FRICKING LIFE IN ORDER
>In the worst economic recession since FDR
7/10 bait
videogames
homie this aint Ganker you dont have to e-stat this fricking hard
Do people unironically play Persona games and live vicariously through the MC? I just see them as a hybrid between a visual novel and an easy-medium JRPG. The writing is literally too bad to escape into.
Wow why don't I just get friends and people that like hanging out with me?? Why didn't I think of that!? Thanks OP I had no clue that was even an option!!
>read book
>realize I am spending weeks of my life reading about someone hanging out with friends every day
>living a much better life
>continue reading about his life
>watch movie
>realize I am spending hours of my life watching someone else live a better life
>listen to music
>realize I am listening to someone who is a billionair
See? This moron mentality. Where in real life can I get demonic powers that let me travel into people's subconscious mind? Go ahead and let me know.
>9 to 5 job
>5-6 days a week
>get a day or two off
>no friends
>single
>just stay at home feeling miserable
>video games barely even distract from the loneliness
>it's gotten so bad that replaying older games just reminds me of a time I wasn't miserable and alone so I can't even play them without cracking
Why is life like this. I just want to be with others. I don't care about anything specific, no sex, no complex relationships, no dating. Just others to share life with. Why do i have to be alone all the time
>Why do i have to be alone all the time
because you were either improperly socialized or at some point decided it was too much of a hassle and ended up in a self isolation loop
Don't fool yourself, you chose this.
To believe otherwise is to rob yourself of any agency.
No gf here. My cope is going to the gym, salsa classes and then going out with the lads (school friends) when possible.
That being said im from south america where bonds are longer and stronger so I wouldnt know how school is for burgers
I got P3F all set up and modded ready to go in ultrawide. Shame about the top right thing, I can disable it but I'll cope, it was like that the last time I played at 16:9 too.
Don't forget the nude mod
thanks man I almost forgot
Ah look, a cope thread
Another rp9kesque thrread where young men blame everything on planet earth for their own failures and never take respsonsibility, and respond with personal anecdotes they make sound like facts to keep up their echo chamber
Your ancestors are ashamed
How to have a life like in Persona games:
Step 1 - be born attractive.
I don't remember anyone saying P3 or P5 MCs are particularily attractive.
The only one canonically hot is the P4 dude.
P3 MC is so hot, canonically speaking, that his teacher gets wet for him
His teacher gets wet for her "gamer" friend. She doesn't even know it's him until the very end and she was already head over heels for him.
>what is fantasy
"charm" in the social stats in the games do not mean "handsomeness"
Irrelevant. At the end of the day the only choice you have as an average or most likely below average male is to LDAR.
>gets outed
>i-i-irrelevant!!!!
lmao
Yeah, I did play it like a decade ago. also
>you will never have a sexy gamer teacher lust for you that hard
>His teacher gets wet for her "gamer" friend.
You might want to replay the game because she fell for him IRL first
You didn't play the game
>Particularly attractive
Anon you're aware that women refuse to speak to you unless you're attractive, right?
>I don't remember anyone saying P3 or P5 MCs are particularily attractive.
You could MAYBE argue that door isn't attractive but joker is the most stereotypically handsome guy ever.
This seriously.
I’m ugly as shit, any attempts at engagement are met with cold professionalism at best because real relationships are just sociopath shit where the other person does a calculation in their head of if you can help them meet girls/network
the only reason you haven't met a girl is because you set the bar too high
Yes, of course. Always the man's fault.
no doubt there are girls out there who would be thrilled to be with you. cherry picking crazy b***hes profiles doesn't represent the whole. rejection is part of the process. I finally got balls and started asking for girls numbers. got a mix of rejection or ghosted around 9 times before i got my girlfriend. it fricking sucks but thats what seperates the man from the boys. got to have courage to get shit on and it will be worth it in the end.
>Rejection is part of the process
Well I've got better things to do than waste my time.
It's summer so I'm not having a great time.
if you wanted an apple and i said you can have it if you hike up the hill to the tree and picked it, but then you said its not worth the time, then do you actually want the apple? things don't appear out of thin air. maybe you really don't want a woman then. i'm confused and you sound mentally ill
The difference is that in said situation I am in total control whereas I am completely deprived of control in a situation that involves another person. There is only a single outcome if I choose to grab an apple unless I slip or make some other kind of mistake but it is a positive outcome. Interaction with another person is inherently in their favor so you are essentially making a leap of faith.
>leap of faith
i think your fundemental flaw is that life is all leaps of faith. you leave your house and there is risk, period. social interactions work both ways. what impowers me is to think about all the people that i would personally reject and realize that it is normal when it happens to me. not everyone is going to like you, it is impossible. the same way you most certainly do not like everyone
For me it was
>walk up the hill
>there is no apple
>actually anon it’s on the bigger hill I messed up
>walk up the bigger hill there is still no apple
>”oops sorry it’s actually up THAT hill”
>go up the bigger hill, STILL no apple
>It’s actually up THAT snow covered mountain over there
>suffer up that mountain there is in fact no apple
>”you are not entitled to an apple”
Something makes me think you've never conquered any snow covered mountains.
No reason to go through it all if you already know the outcome.
>i dont want to go on an adventure, i know eventually ill go back home.
you're depressed.
Knowing that something is a waste of my time and effort when it will inevitably only result in failure does not mean I'm depressed.
Not to the same degree as social interaction as you have zero control there. Yeah a rock could fall onto my head when I'm getting off the bus and kill me instantly but that's very unlikely, just like how success with something that's inherently rigged against me is unlikely to the point that trying is a waste of energy.
Lol yeah that’s the other thing they say, you didn’t try hard enough
Well I mean, either you're extremely ugly in which case there's no way to win or you didn't. Simple as.
Yes I know that and that’s what I mean. They waste your time telling you to climb mountains because they subconsciously want you distracted until you’re too old to steal an apple.
you can always try the brute force method. make good money, which is in your control, and then find the gold diggers or get a mail order bride
Steal an apple? Not sure what your meaning is at this point in the metaphor?
Bingo. Anon should just admit he's not interested in relationships instead of moping that one won't fall in his lap.
Nope. If you are ugly, cold approaching is akin to playing the lotto. You'll slowly destroy your reputation while the mental damage of repeated brutal rejections will make you even more depressed than ever.
>using this as an example
She's really not even that bad compared to some. For example my insane sister
>If I guy doesn't dress exactly how I would want him to I don't even bother
An actually thing she has told me before. Fricking clothes. Something you can change EASILY is a deal breaker for her. I said she was insane and she just laughed and said I don't get it.
you autists look at this list and take it all to be real. this is just this slampigs fanfic. one week and she'd be asking me to get bred every night. she may be moronic, but those breasts arent.
that png is pretty comfy n g l
What a shitty thread
Yea but the suffering makes me feel better about the 100 pounds I lost last year
I wish I had friends
Me too, Apu.
I really don't know why this thread is still here, but yeah me too
I had that thought after like 50hrs in Persona 5. Hated the combat and the grinding, and was only for the mediocre story and trying to increase points with other fictional characters over the catchy, but repetitive soundtrack.
After that I gave up.
>grinding
P5 is the easiest in the entire franchise anon.
Not even super hard difficulty requires grinding at all
To any of you burger anons around, how is Seattle? I might live there a couple of years due to a good career opportunity. Is it as infested with rats and roaches as NY?
Help me with not getting stabbed plz.
Stop arguing with that moron. He's obviously underage.
if real life abilities could be quantified with numbers like STR, INT, etc you autists would be doing shit in real life. i know i would
>play persona 5 when it came out on ps4 years ago
>stopped at pyramid and dropped it
>got persona 5 again when it came out on steam
>at pyramid and want to drop it again
I don't know if it's the pyramid dungeon itself or just being done with 5 in general, it's not long games or long rpgs as I'm fine with shit like okami or the dq games
P5 ironically peaks with the first dungeon. You might like p5 strikers instead if you like the characters enough.
The pyramid palace is shit but it's worth beating that part at least.
The plot ramps up significantly once you help the stupid NEET girl.
The cruise ship "palace" was pretty fricking bad
Her name is Futaba you philistine
At least you spared yourself the actual dogshit space station dungeon.
The cruise ship is easily the best palace in the game.
yknow people say this like "oh man i should be doing all these things" but honestly i dont think this is actually the case
like most of the shit you do in persona is for some set benefit like extra stats or perks or whatever, whatever "loser" playing the game thinking "oh man why arent i doing this irl" wouldn't actually give a shit enough to do the activities in the game irl like playing darts or participating in food challenges or whatever with any regularity.
also when it comes to dating or hanging out with friends or whatever, at the very least i can say that persona 5 characters are, well, characters and are literally designed to be entertaining with exaggerated and unrealistic archetypes, so actually hanging out with real people would be nothing like hanging out with them, especially if you're talking about characters like the twin e-girls. just look at ryuji, there are people that kinda act like that irl but nowhere to his degree, because he's supposed to be "THE dumb but well meaning jock" with ALL of the traits dialed up to 10, not an actually realistic depiction of a jock. and, like, you're not gonna date your teacher in a maid outfit irl (but if you somehow do/did pls send a greentext GOWTWM). hell, last i checked, any high school aged people like the characters in the game usually spend their times indoors playing videogames or watching netflix or whatever. you couldnt get them to go play darts or whatever with any regularity because they dont give a shit, theyd rather play videogames
anyways thanks for attending my TED talk
>you're spending weeks of your life making a video game character
bruh what the frick are you talking about p4 is like 50h and that's being generous
I finished all personas way faster than what I was told they usually take to finish and I didn't skip stuff to just rush through main story
Some moron earlier in this thread was bragging that he can play 20 hours of video games per week. That's barely 3 hours a day... This thread is full of failed normalgays and crybabies who don't actually like video games
>don't play any online games so no discord to hover around and make friends
>0 social skills and no friends so no one irl either
help
Easy mode is to meet up with an old friend from school and either rekindle your friendship or have them introduce you to someone new when hanging out together.
>meet up with an old friend from school
I lost all contact with anyone I knew from school. Haven't even thought about them in years
>losing contact
>in 2023
Facebook is a thing anon, you can just find them by names alone and just be like "hey I'm this guy from school, what have you been up to"
Ugh. Basing your life on how many knuckleheads you surround yourself with is so lame. That means your entire existence is based on people coming and going.
CAN YOU SEE ALL OF ME
>CAN YOU SEE ALL OF ME
I'm not trying to be edgy. I'm just saying if you can't be good by yourself, surrounding yourself with a bunch of jackasses won't help you.
No offense but I’m tired of this moronic take, being dependent on the acceptance of others for true happiness is normal
No.
What's moronic is isolating yourself from your real family at 18 just to find an ersatz family in your 20s
People can't even function in groups higher than about a dozen. Now there's this added moronic-ass horsehit expectation of going out to "find people to be with."
People are happiest when they have a family and common goals. Having morons to listen to you b***h and moan about modern bullshit, is not the same thing.
Like hell I would have the energy and patience to going out with people or work part time jobs every fricking day, also I don't self insert on anime stereotypes/characters, I just like turn based combat.
>unironically live on an Island
>everywhere is too far to walk or bike
>my mental issues prevent me from having a driver's license
>even ignoring all these things my parents wouldn't be able to get by if I didn't constantly chip in
I'm trapped.
I am trapped.
get a DUI (electric) bike?
Which island?
Vancouver Island.
Damn b***h you live like this?
heaven. city Black folk wont understand
Have you considered the internet signal though.
damn, looks rough. how can they live there.
Looks incredible
Living in a run of the mill city environment where no one knows each other and it's all just a massive shitshow of traffic and buildings when I look at an image like this I imagine myself living here instead and finding a cute bf and we just live some generic simple life in a tiny ass town being gay as frick and happy in our small little town.
I wonder what this means
and how I can attain it
This place is slim pickings for gay people unless you're into old dudes. I'm speaking from experience.
There has to be at least some gays in their 20s-early 30s.
I don't doubt there isn't. But other than me I have not met a single other gay that matches that description. And trust me i've been looking.
you'll make it eventually, don't give up :')
Don't believe this false hope. I'm 36 and every year I degrade more and more. Not everyone gets a happy ending. I'm blessed enough that I have a young face so I'm still not creepy old man tier, but the moment the wrinkles start to form I'm fricking done and I either kill myself or enjoy living alone for the rest of my life.
I was told "it'll happen eventually don't give up" since my early 20s. Nothing happened. Life is just cruel sometimes and not everyone will find their other
doomer mental state IS worse than "haha it may still happen" one (however delusional it may be)
it doesn't have to be all farting sparkles out of your ass, but don't fricking bury yourself even more below. for frick's sake, be nice to yourself.
you know, for some people, their idea of a generic simple life does include a depressed mid-30-something guy. specifically, even.
I mean I sort of agree with that. Just giving up fully early on is not the way to go but I also believe the whole "it will happen someday" is just a cruel lie that only gets worse as time progresses and I'm living proof of it. It never happened "someday" to me. . Sometimes you have to just accept that some people will just die alone and without a significant other. I'm still as alone as I was at 23. 25. 29, etc. Nothing happened and the false hope kept me assured that someday it will, but truth is it just never did. I'm not dead or anything yet and there's "still time left" but when you hit this point it's like yeah, it's basically over.
Anything is possible, but again, if I made it this far with nothing, how in the actual frick can I find my perfect guy at this point. One thing is to say it's hopeless, the other is to have a literal ticking clock called "Age" working actively against you, and my time is all but spent. I'll be 40 in just 4 years.
dont gays have it super easy like you just go on grindr get a match immediately exchange two messages and you're pozzing someones neghole 10 minutes later
>get a match immediately
>pozzing someones neghole
Who said anything about getting laid? getting dick is an absolute joke for reasons you just described. I have 0 interest in mindless sex. Been there done that. I want a bf.
Well I dunno i assume its pretty simple from there
i think if i could have sex with girls easily then at least once i'd talk to one after and they'd like me and ask to see me again...
guess its different for gays
It is indeed different. Ironically I've had a one time fling with essentially the guy of my dreams 2 years ago. Literal perfect 10/10 twink femboy type of guy, awesome personality, but in the end it was nothing more than a fling. I tried hard to maintain contact and establish proper friendship for a month or two after but he showed frick all interest in doing so, he just wanted dick. It's like that for pretty much all flings, so I just gave up. I don't care about dick, I want to date someone.
Isn't being gay only easy mode like that if you're a bottom? Finding femboys to top is just as hard as trying to date girls
>Finding femboys to top is just as hard as trying to date girls
Sort of. I bump into femboys but they just want one night stand dick. I wish I could have a cute femboy bf
>it will happen someday
Or you could not live on either extreme of
>do nothing and it will happen eventually
or
>do nothing because it's meaningless unless I was born as a 10/10 with a dick that pokes out the bottom of my pants
and just put effort into yourself.
I'm not saying that some people aren't purely unfrickable, but 90% of the people claiming that everyone else was just born luckier than them are simply lazy sacks of shit.
What do you suggest exactly anon? please don't be a "just go outside bro" type of person. It's NOT that simple and it's an extremely vague statement. The fact I post on Ganker shows you I'm already an awkward weirdo. My looks are fine. Generic 150lbs 5ft 10 with normal skin, normal hair, normal normal normal. Nothing too skinny or too fat, just a normal generic guy. But ultimately I'm a shy moron and I have no friends. I've tried reaching out to others via grindr type things but naturally that just landed me sex. Mindless sex I don't care a thing about. See example here:
You've been doomed by the gay gene. Life is unironically easier straight. I don't hate you or anything, it's just facts.
>Life is unironically easier straight.
nta, but LOL, LMAO even. Gay is easy mode for dating, especially if video games is your primary hobby
This just confirms that they're both the same difficulty but different builds. One is STR one is DEX or INT
This is the most based post I've read all week.
No, gay is easy mode. "Le I don't just want sex" is the same shit women say when people point out how easy they have it on dating apps. That gaycel is mentally ill and probably looking for 7-10/10 femboys instead of settling for an average guy, which again is the same shit women do when they can't date chad
Gay is easy mode for meaningless, mindless sex, not really "dating."
>being a straight man past a certain age
>let's not even talk about straight women
unironically, only gay people can find true happiness, even when they're older.
>ultimately I'm a shy moron and I have no friends
So you know what the problem is. You have to get better at interacting with people.
If you can't even talk to people normally, you can't expect to go on a date and not shit your pants, you build up to it. If you can't even establish friends, get more comfortable talking to people through text, move up to voice chat, and work your way up to actually talking with people in person.
You're still going to shit the bed plenty and frick up a lot, but that's how you get better at things.
>where do I go
Well you're on Ganker so lets pretend for a second that Ganker likes video games, find a single video game that you can enjoy playing that requires actually interacting with people that isn't just shittalking in a lobby for five minutes before being connected with other random people.
I've met plenty of severely autistic people playing games that still manage to have relationships with others simply because they found a means of interacting with them in an environment that they were relatively relaxed/comfortable in.
If you're past the point of actually being capable of interacting with people, and are just worried that you're boring, find hobbies. Seriously. You'll find someone interested in just about anything but you need to actually have shit that you can talk about.
>You have to get better at interacting with people.
That's just it anon, all the points you mentioned there...it's not quite on point. I will not "shit the bed" if I were to go on a date, or have any issues texting, vc, hell I'm comfortable enough to talk in groups and I've gone to conventions (alone mind you) I have zero social issue in terms of the actual process of conversation. No problem at all. However I just...don't have friends? like I don't talk to people. Once I'm IN a conversation, or a date, I'm chill and fine and can handle it no problem. But I never meet anyone, I never have anyone to converse with. I am alone nonstop and always. It's like I can handle steps 2, 3, 4, and 5...but step 1 (which is mandatory before reaching step 2) I just can't do. That is actually MEETING someone to talk to and progress from there.
>video games
No, I agree with you here fully. I would love to bond with others over my hobby, but it's as you said, this involves non matchmaking random queue games. I don't play any game currently that involves other people. All I play are single player games. Evryone plays things like valorant, league, fortnite, CoD, whatevr the hell else, but I have no interest in those games myself?
>However I just...don't have friends? like I don't talk to people.
Do you want to interact with/enjoy interacting with people or do you just want the satisfaction of knowing that you have friends/are in a longterm relationship
I mean that seriously. I know a lot of people that glorify having relationships but don't actually like being social and more or less treat their significant other more as a trophy or stressball but don't actually want to spend time with them.
Basically, you're either boring and are capable of interacting with people but have nothing interesting to say, which is solved by picking up interests, or you have interests but don't actually care about the people you're interacting with to feel any sort of value in sharing your interests with people.
>le SELF IMPROVE and acquire INTERESTS
Kys
>do things that will improve your life
>NO NO NONONO
Okay. Stop whining then.
that post that you replied to was not me, btw. This was my reply:
Takes me a bit to type
>reducing my post to the point it no longer resembles what I claimed just so you don't have to address it
I never even claimed self improvement just finding shit to talk about.
>Basically, you're either boring and are capable of interacting with people but have nothing interesting to say
To a degree this, because my only topic of interest is video games.
The thing is the people that I've been able to casually converse with are simply just the same thing. They also only want to talk about video games. So to everyone else with normal interest, I'm boring as frick. To other gays that like games and nothing but games I can have conversations with for HOURS.
>Do you want to interact with/enjoy interacting with people
>or just trophies
I want to wake up each day and know that I have either a loving bf to talk with and care for and be cared for back AND/OR a friend(s) that will do the same, minus the romance. It's not just for the sake of having it. I want the connections. I want to feel like I'm part of someone's life and them to mine. Either via a romantic connection (1 on 1 bf) or friend(s) (multiple people that I share interests with and talk, and keep each other company throghout the day over text or hang out in person)
I say bf because I default to wanting someone in a romantic and loving manner, but sometimes really all I think I need are good friends to share my life with. I am 100% alone, just simply alone. Anon, the most conversation I've had in the past month (and this) is this typing I am doing right now, over an anonymous message board. I simply have no one in my life, friend, bf, otherwise. I don't want superfical fake shit or "let's just frick" or those randoms that add you and talk to you one time and never talk again. I want real true connections.
>multiple people that I share interests with and talk, and keep each other company throghout the day over text or hang out in person
Past a certain age this is a bit of a rough expectation. I don't even talk to my best friends every day.
I really detest "its the age" thing, particularly for arbitrary non-age-dependent things like hobbies and stuff, and for gay people just in general
it is not the age
I was just talking about talking to ones friends every day. I don't know a single successful adult that does. Time is the undefeatable foe.
it's okay to call people "unsociable", you know, the actual thing that they are, by the name of that aspect, instead of making it an age thing that doesn't mean anything.
Sure thing champ.
Right but that's a romantic big picture idea. What I mean is, do you actually want somebody that you have to talk to and interact with constantly every day for long periods of time? Do you actually enjoy interacting with people or do you just like the idea of 'having someone'? The latter is what I refer to by people that simply glorify the idea of having a relationship and only really interact with those people when it's convenient.
If you're really only interested in video games and genuinely interested in talking to and spending long times with other people (aka are actually social) you need to at least be willing to try out a shit ton of multiplayer games that will give you an opportunity to interact with and meet other people that are similarly situated. You're far more likely to meet another gay, autistic video game fanatic by actually playing video games than going outside. You're also not going to play a multiplayer video game for a week and have Fabio whisk you away on his gay horse but it's still the most efficient way of putting in effort to get what you want.
Of course, you could also broaden your interests, if not for the sake of gay sex, then at least to potentially find other things to do.
I just find that if all you can find enjoyment in is single player video games, you're probably not very interested in other people to begin with.
it doesnt even have to be "multiplayer", communities form around single player games just as well
>Do you actually enjoy interacting with people or do you just like the idea of 'having someone'?
I'll say this. You know that game Ganker memes about a lot called VRChat? I log onto it a few times a week because it is the only time (besides random threads like these) where I can interact with others with my interests. I exit vrchat feeling happy and fulfilled, having spent time talking to others on there. I never really think when I'm there "man holy frick I am so alone and lonely" because I'm actively surrounded by others with my interests and talking to others. I think this alone is what moves me into the field that I genuienly just want to feel connections and have others to talk to daily.
The issue is that even though I TALK to people there...it never results in friendships. We chat, sometimes people ask for my discord, we chat a bit a few times there..but it just fizzles away? we never become "friends" just "that guy I talked to a few times online". And it sucks. I mean maybe I really do just have to force myself to play some multiplayer game. The thing is I don't avoid multiplayer games because I hate people and want to play alone, I just don't have any in mind that I want to play that happens to also be multiplaer. I'm not big on FPS games so that throws a lot of them out. I don't like MOBAS I don't like MMORPGS so that kills off shit like league, FFXIV, etc. I guess I'm limited on online games is all? I do find enjoyment in them, but I simply have none at the moment tha tinterests me?
What are you expecting to do with these people? What kind of activities do you have planned when you're talking with these people on Discord?
If you just purely want to talk with people, of course they leave you. They can talk with people while doing actual activities.
When I talk with somebody, it inevitably leads to "so what do we want to do?" You haven't declared any interest in doing anything that involves other people, nor having invited or been invited, to do any kind of non solo activity, so I feel like that's the problem.
In other words you feel the reason these people fail to move from "random online I DM with sometimes" to "actual friend" is that we only chat, and not DO things while chatting?
I mean I hear ya and I can see that as being an issue. To be fair...no one of them particular invites me to do anything, and I likewise don't offer anything either (non solo activity that is) But I guess in this case video games is the only thing I'd offer and the only thing I'd want to be offered back. I guess I need to just start playing games that other people would be wanting to play together? I think this is where a slight issues rises. Most people I talk with online (or at least randoms that I meet in games like vrchat) will play
>valorant
>fortnite
>CoD
These are the ones I hear the most. I cannot state how much I dislike FPS games, damn
>In other words you feel the reason these people fail to move from "random online I DM with sometimes" to "actual friend" is that we only chat, and not DO things while chatting?
I mean, think about rationally. If you're not interested in doing anything with these people, why are you interacting with them? Why would they spend time with you? When people "hang out" they aren't literally just sitting in a white room talking, they'll at least watch a movie or play a game together.
>fps shooters
You need to broaden your horizons. Even if you're looking at normie shit that can still incorporate stuff like Rocket League, Deep Rock Galactic, hell even Terraria. If you're already capable of getting someone's attention in a game like VR chat, you can basically play anything. Tabletop Simulator, Risk of Rain, Halo Co-Op campaigns.
I'm sure you can find something you at least tolerate, and if you're playing with someone you actually like talking with, it almost doesn't matter what the game is.
I appreciate the chat anon, before thread dies.
>rocket league
How amusing, I actually got inspired by what you suggested and out of the blue reached out to one of my random online "friends" (we DM ocassionally) and asked if they wanted to play RL. Me trying to force something to do so we can chat while doing it, sadly they declined they said they were busy, but did say sorry for it. But hey..it's a start. I'll try and make efforts to actually do things with these people. Gaming wise that is. I just hope this will lead to some actual bonds of friendship, I'd love to have pals to do things with. Online to start but ideally irl
Not that anon, but I have life long friends that meet up from across states that were made playing online games together. Best of luck.
thank you anon
>If you just purely want to talk with people, of course they leave you.
I don't see the issue here. What's wrong with just conversation? besides if one person is satisfied with just that, there's bound to be others that are also satisfied with just that?
I mean, did you read the rest of that post where I explain that or
>besides if one person is satisfied with just that, there's bound to be others that are also satisfied with just that?
Sure but finding people that will spend large amounts of time with someone that isn't interested in doing literally anything would take a lot of effort, and that Anon seems to be more interested in making friends broadly
I never said such people don't exist.
>no problem at all...just sociopathic tendencies.
lmao that is so funny as it is too real lol. you should leave your number though.
technically, both "it'll never happen" and "it could happen" are intangible, immaterial, lies, with no physical embodiment, or reason, or connection. it's just as easy to believe or not believe either one of them. probabilities of "something not happening" or "happening" both exist and are kinda even in that way, that "both possibilities are there". and "not there" at the same time, because it is just a bunch of made up ideas that don't physically exist.
it's slightly nicer to believe that "it could be" though. the idea is just there.
in a way, it's impossible to give up, because there always will be opportunity for some action.
just don't chain yourself down to some made up "reasoning" that'd only keep you downward. needlessly.
well, there's always the world of fiction. circling back to OPs point, that can be so good, it can be the reason, the fuel, the power, to go on, just to have even that
How is tormenting yourself with false hope "being nice to yourself"? It just leads to more pain in the long run. I'm almost out of my early 20s and spent it delusionally trying to do the whole "self improve, make friends, etc" routine - it doesn't work. No normal adult wants friends unless you're exceptional, they have friends already. And trying to get a gf when you don't have friends to meet them through, unless you meet certain genetic standards that allow you to pass on dating apps, is literally less likely than willing the lottery. There's really nothing you can do past a certain age if you don't have a foundation, again see
being a doomer boo hoo for either no worthwhile reason at all, or just to add even more mental inhibition onto yourself, is worse.
You'll be as much of a homosexual there as where you currently live.
Try not being gay
>be me
>today
>have to run some errands and leave the house
>suddenly starts to rain for some hours
>come back
>everything is flooded
take the hiking and camping pill, especially if you live in america you've got no excuse
Persona is comfy relaxing time for me. I work my job, then come home and play it. I have no desire to make any more friends or 'build charisma' as if that's something you can force out in real life.
I will never understand people who want to live in cities.
Close proximity to everything you might possibly want?
I live in nyc, but I live in queens
its comfy, it feels a lot less "city" than manhattan. Its not nearly as expensive and its less dense, but its still nice to walk around and its convenient
If the countryside has good internet, I'm fricking leaving the big city.
yeah cuz IRL there is no one standing around waiting to be spoken to
Persona's main appeal is living in a world where people talk to you instead of the quiet isolated hellscape it is.
what unrequired necesity is katamari damacy fulfilling in my life? the need to shoplift?
The need to roll stuff into balls. Your ancestors were dung beetles.
Your post implies it's possible to build yourself up in real life the same way you can in a video game. If you're an adult and don't have the basics like friends, family, relationship experience, and so on already then your life is most likely over.
>incel drivel
Explain which part is wrong
The loudest, most verbose crab in the bucket is still just another crab in the bucket.
>If I close my eyes I won't realize I'm in the bucket as well
The truth is EVERYONE is in the bucket. Nothing about anything means jack shit because even if we were the most accomplished, glorious bastard to ever live, after a few hundred years, people jealous that such a grand life was lived will revise history to make you out to be a monster with no redeeming values, tarnishing your legacy and making you into another nobody.
These posts are always funny to me because they are only right if every single person who has ever lived only achieved anything because they were lucky. Every single person.
I don't know how you can cope hard than that.
Yes, that's how it works. You can't willpower yourself into a better upbringing or genetics and those are what determine your life. Stop falling for just world fallacy 2 IQ Black person
>everybody in the world that has anything I don't have was born with it
>every single person
>it is literally impossible that they weren't just more fortunate than me I did everything I could
Anon please, my ribs.
Yes, that's correct if you extend "born with it" to include not just genetics but other factors that aren't in your control like upbringing, environment and so on. If you don't meet certain physical standards (as a male) and never made friends in childhood your life is over. Do you think a 5'2 bald ricecel should just try harder? Or that Adam Lanza or Jake Davison could just le willpower their way out of about mental illness they were born with?
Given all the ugly fricks that procreate, yes, you're just a homosexual.
>Given all the ugly fricks that procreate
Actual delusion. The only ugly people procreating (in the west) come from the older generation before dating apps where standards for men were significantly lower, or men tall enough to compensate for it. The fact that youre mad about this is literally proving the point of that image's first few paragraphs
Not him but my brother is a butt ugly hunchbacked mother fricker and he managed to shit out 2 kids that he doesn't provide for by the age of thirty
The trick is going for uglies fatties and morons who actually consider marrying a bum with felonies on their record
>my brother is a butt ugly hunchbacked mother fricker
So is mine and he has a gf, but he's also 6'3 which compensates for it.
What's his height and your location? You said felonies so I assume USA? It isn't quite as brutal as European countries since there's so many people and more rural areas (harder for women to access Chad)
USA and I dunno, hes a bit shorter than me (6ft) so I assume 5'10 or 11
King of the manlets but that's decently tall around here where it's all hispanics, the rural part doesn't apply since we're in on eof the bigger cities
I'll just ignore all the fat people in their late 20s to early 30s tardwrangling their kids.
>I bet you're mad
Is calling someone a homosexual on Ganker really enough for you to fall back on such a bad argument?
I play MMOs and they are swarming with manlets that have kids they are constantly ignoring in the background.
I'm sorry but you people are just lazy.
I'm 5'7", bald, chubby, and not a virgin. It's all cope.
Are you also an Indian Janitor who bangs supermodels?
Nah, I'm a white engineer and bang normal girls that I think are cute.
Are they in the room with you right now?
No, just the voices and a shadow with a funny hat.
Well shit I take it all back. Sorry Hispanic friends, I didn't intend to brag about my buff.
They lied. We're usually in administrative positions because pajeet can't communicate very good.
>pajeet can't communicate very good.
this is the most ironic Ganker post of the week congrats
That was the joke, yeah.
what engineering adminstrative job should i aim for
i talk good
Go for Administrator. Very well job for the seeking administrative and administrating sir.
It's common knowledge white men get free points with ethnic women, to the point where even the ugliest white guys can get an asian wife. You've probably never dated a white woman at 5'7 unless you're good looking though.
>You've probably never dated a white woman at 5'7 unless you're good looking though
Ah, but I have. Must be in my face, given the other attributes I described.
Other anon was right, you're schizophrenic
It isn't unless you're talking about white men with non-white women (the only exception to the "ugly can't get laid" rule)
>you're schizophrenic
Well that explains the voices.
>I'm a white
You're automatically disqualified from this discussion then
https://incels.wiki/w/JBW_theory
>incels.wiki
but they told me white people couldnt get a job as an engineer??????????????
>I'll just ignore all the fat people
What does that have to do with being ugly and/or short? My brother is obese, he's also 6'3 with a full head of hair, a full beard and a good eye area. I'm 5'8, balding, but in good physical shape. Guess which one of us has kids?
>I play MMOs and they are swarming with manlets that have kids
Least convincing anecdote I've ever heard lmao
> I'm 5'8, balding, but in good physical shape. Guess which one of us has kids?
My GM is 5'4', got his first kid a few days ago.
Sorry you're also uninteresting and put no effort into learning how to interact with others.
>doubles down on his moronic anecdote
Women don't consider 5'4 men human beings in the west, let alone have kids with them
>le just be interesting
Please describe how being "interesting" is help the 5'0 bald Indian janitor?
>I refuse to believe anything that conflicts with telling myself that it's hopeless
That's what I mean and why I think it's so funny. You simply believe that every single other person on the planet either doesn't exist or had some kind of magical power that you lack.
>had some kind of magical power that you lack.
yeah its called being neurotypicalness
Exactly, you're just moronic.
> You simply believe that every single other person on the planet either doesn't exist
They do exist and all of the statistics on them agree with me. Men are more sexless than ever because women would rather be part of chad's harem than date someone mediocre, dating app statistics/data also reflect the same points. You're delusional and probably mentally ill seeing as you're trying to convince people on Ganker to change their logical worldview with anecdotes
>had some kind of magical power
Also known as "good genetics"
>convince people on Ganker to change their logical worldview with anecdotes
This chain started with me laughing and belittling the people with that view so I'm not sure how you interpreted that as me trying to fix them.
My point again is that plenty of ugly, fat, slow, short etc people have wives and kids. That your thinking relies on flat out ignoring everyone else on the planet, and who has ever lived, is just funny to me.
You just flat out deny the existence of nonchads with families, or assume that have magical wizard powers that allowed them to have normal relationships.
You hit this on the head. Got called schizophrenic for getting laid and being able to form relationships despite having a generic list of negative traits (excuses).
>My point again is that plenty of ugly, fat, slow, short etc people have wives
They don't, no idea why you think anyone is going to accept that this is true. Anyone can go outside and observe there's no ugly and short guy with a woman except for literal boomers from a different generation, and the only short guys with women are good looking. They can then go and look at the data showing how men have less sex than ever, or the stuff from dating app leaks and so on. This doesn't just apply to women but literally everything in life too, plenty of statistics showing how height correlates with money earned, career opportunities etc.
>ignoring everyone else on the planet
The discussion is about first world countries in the west, I'm sure ugly men have it fine in sharia countries where their cousins are forced to marry them.
This is only happening because young men and women have been ruined by the internet. It's true.
>all the threads about fat ugly stupid americans and their moronic families
>none of them count when it comes to me making excuses about being lazy
How is that not funny.
No, boomers from a generation where it was significantly easier to meet women because they were more legally and culturally reigned in and didn't have access to dating apps don't count.
Only ugly people procreating are Chads impregnating low tier women or ugly women going to a sperm bank to get Chad's sperm. A place where they literally reject manlets at the door. A bank of sperm for women that can't get pregnant reject manlets out right.
Some people are born on easy mode, it's true. But who gives a frick about them? You're alive, and you're gonna be here for a while, so you should find a solution to your problem instead of wasting time thinking about how easily other people solve theirs.
Well, to be fair, success is 50% effort and 50% luck. People who whine that they never had a chance are only half right, while people who moan that others are lazy are also only half right.
Like most things the truth lies in the middle.
>i'm nootral
It's always the best route in SMT and it's the best position in real life too.
That luck only comes about from actually putting yourself in a position to receive/benefit from it. If you're expecting to 'try' once and succeed, that's still being lazy.
>That luck only comes about from actually putting yourself in a position to receive/benefit from it
That's true, which is why its 50% of success. However, people can work hard for years trying to succeed in life and still get nowhere, and that sort of thing whittles you away to a nub. Life is unfair.
and how many of those people actually did everything they could? I know plenty of people that stick in deadends and "work hard for years" when they could have left their 'comfort zone' and looked for alternatives. I still consider them lazy for sticking with familiarity.
I don't know why people like you are so resistant to the idea that life isn't fair. Do you really think everyone in the lower class is lazy?
Also, do you think quitting your job, a job you have dedicated years too, to POTENTIALLY do better at a new job, not luck? Sticking to familiarity isn't being lazy, its being afraid, afraid that you might hit rock bottom and be in an even worse position than you were before. Most people don't have the ability to take chances like that in stride.
>fair
fairness is a made up concept.
along with "luck". or "reason." or "fate". or whatever other made up bullshit people get bogged down with. invisible, nonexistent ties that people bind themselves with.
I mean sort of, yes. What people consider fair ranges from person to person, it's subjective. That doesn't change the fact that most people believe hard work will lead to success. It's basically the core ideal the US is built on.
Luck too is just a term to define the extremely complicated set of circumstances far outside our ability to deal with.
uh, yeah? what's the problem? video games are better than the real world, moron.
Save yourself before it's too late kid. I was on Ganker making posts like these 10 years ago, kind anons tried to warn me - I never listened.
okay maybe the pyramid isn't so bad after all
Why isn't Anne dressed like a prostitute
persona 3 outfits
I played Persona and dropped it because the social aspect was incredibly boring and the JRPG mechanics managed to be shit. It boggles me that P3-P5 are praised endlessly for anything other than presentation.
playing persona is either a slog or pure emotional torture, I don't know how Anon's do it
I agree, it's pure suicide fuel.
I was NEET for such a long time now I feel like I'll never be able to make friends or find a woman to have kids with
Or be able to afford ANYTHING
House, land, retirement, etc
when is it too late... I'll be 27 soon
Probably like, 40. For whatever reason most of the men in my family have really begun their lives in their 30s, myself included.
>myself included.
Share story? it may give us 30s gays some hope. I feel it's basically over at this point when everyone I meet online (like off games and shit) are in their late 20s and already have loving relationships wheras I'm alone in my 30s
I don't feel like getting into the nitty gritty of it, but basically I was a shut in NEET for most of my early twenties. Once I got my health in order, which was a huge block, I started working my way through college and things started falling into place socially, between that and holding down the job to pay for it.
Wasn't college all kids like 10+ years younger than you? How did that work for you?
I started at community college because, working hard enough, I could pay my way through that without accumulating debt and build up a good GPA for grants and scholarships going into Uni. Community College has all types.
>Community College has all types
Can you elaborate further? Because I've been to multiple different colleges in my late 20s and it's always almost entirely kids. How did you make friends with the other 30 somethings? Any women? How did uni go? For someone calling people "crabs in a bucket" your posts are pretty vague
Well for one I only mentioned crabs in a bucket once to point out that I was one. I've never directly called anybody that in this thread.
Evening classes usually have a more varied crowd of people because it's where the people with a lot going on in life end up. I made friends by talking. People love talking so there's no point in being nervous about it. Plenty of women to talk to, and if you're going for a promising degree even the younger ones will let you bend their ear. I met my now wife outside of school though. Uni was whatever. Much younger crowd, more into partying, but I already had my circle by then. If it seems like I'm being vague it's because I'm very tired and disoriented. Getting over a root canal.
Are you really carefully considering what state you were in before your 30s? Like do you not think that the foundation you built up before then is wht allowed your life to start in your 30s?
A NEET that probably would have agreed with the lot of crabs in the bucket in this thread, to sum it up.
I don't think this is true
it starts way earlier, more like late 20s or when you finish college/university
If you don't have your mindset ready gearing to go at that point, then you've established your path
He asked when it was too late, not what the normalgay bar for success is.
I just want to touch another human.
The only people I see are either my family or my co-workers. I'm going to snap one day.
I've long since accepted that the only warm physical contact I can give and receive within acceptable circumstances is greeting/goodbye hugs at family gatherings with those I'm familiar with.
If I need something resembling comforting warmth, I'll get a good set of fuzzy blankets. All the touch I want with none of the burden on someone else, simple as that.
>continue to waste weeks of your life playing a video game
How is this any different from other video games?
There should just be an app you can download that shows people near you on your GPS map and has profiles of who is looking for what. Kinda like IRL version of MMORPG profiles so you get a glance at what people are like nearby and can meet up with them.
...of course this can't exist because it would just be exploited for harassment and stalking. F
there is an app like that for gays, don't remember what its called
nta but I'm curious as to the name? not grindr right? that shit doesn't use GPS location system to track on maps in real time afaik?
like I said, I don't remember.
Oh sweet is this the autistic moron thread? I have a severe NTR fetish but I have never had a relationship so I can't actually relate to the guy getting cucked. So instead I take pleasure in other people's relationships failing.
Ayane best girl
moron should have gone for the no scope
Still easier than making friends with normgroids in real life.
>Persona
>start out as penultimate Chad
>real life
>start out as you
That's why. Doesn't matter how much work or improvement you do when you're a 5'6 white manlet 4/10.
>white
lmoa JWBhomosexual
Never mind that the protagonist is literally gifted powers from God to help him acclimate to any situation near-seamlessly, always able to read the mood and respond exactly how people want you to respond with sheer charisma alone.
Meanwhile the only way to respond correctly to a situation if to be rich and popular enough that your presence is a net benefit for your peers rather than a hinderance.
Height is a choice
Im in disbelief that this threads still here
>touch-starved gays who for whatever reason still frequent this hellhole receiving acknowledgement of their existence
it actually makes too much sense
here is an easy fix:
Open tinder
Create an account
Start dating
how hard is it to do that ?
>Start dating
>tinder
translator's note: "dating" means mindless one night stand flings with no soul
are you aware that in order to meet a future girlfriend or wife you need to "date" or go out with a lot of women ? Only way to do that is online or going out to a place where you will meet a lot of women
>or going out to a place where you will meet a lot of women
Ok cool where?
>inb4 bro just go to a bar
where ?
that's very specific to your location. libraries, gyms, concerts, mall, supermarkets, clubs, college.
I know it's hard to comprehend but if you are not willing to try to date online then you need to go OUT a lot to meet women. If you don't go out a lot then you won't meet sufficient women and then you are left with online dating.
Yes but you said tindr which is 100% prostitutes
No one in their right mind would marry a prostitute, I sure as shit wouldnt
as said above. a lot of reddit men marry women off of tinder.
>reddit
>men
Pick one
What's the point of trying to get the attention of a prostitute when actual prostitutes exist
That only works for women. Only literal supermodels and tall men get anything off dating apps, the ratio of men to women is like 500 to 1
the ratio of men to men on grindr is 1:1 tho
are you saying that it is easier to be gay than to be straight ?
why is reddit full of normal looking man marrying normal looking women after having met on tinder ? are they lying
Redditors don't mind women with body counts in the hundreds looking to settle.
Meanwhile in reality
online dating is much much harder than real life dating.
Just get in decent shape, you can be chubby but wear decent clothing, LOWER YOUR STANDARDS then go a supermarket and hit on the chubby, 4/10 brown cashiers.
There's no such thing as real life dating unless you already have friends with women in their social circle or you're young enough to be in school
>just cold approach bro
lmao
>just cold approach bro
you have to IF you are not a fricking pussy. Just practice small talk and saying hello to random women.
> lmao
ok then stay depressed and lonely but you'll know deep inside you that you are a big fricking pussy
if you can cold approach and get results then 100% women are already coming to you anyway
no. even the CHADDEST CHAD is rejected by women, but since he is always seeking new women it doesn't bother him.
you don't understand. it's not about being attractive cause you won't change your face.
You. just. have. to. talk. to. women. a. lot.
>you have to IF
You want to get arrested and charged for sexual harassment
>Just practice small talk and saying hello to random women
Lmao
>but since he is always seeking new women
At socially appropriate venues like parties and clubbing. Incels don't have access to the former and if they manage to make it into e.g. a club they'll be treated like shit
Bro Persona takes 100 max to do everything, that's like 4 days of your life.
I dont even know what to improve on at my age
go to jim
Where is he?
next to joe
Joe who?
Joe Pesci
I stopped progressign like 3 months in cause my diet isnt perfect cause i dont live alone and im beholden to why my family eats and cooks
maybe if i ever live alone i'll give it another shot, thats what Ive been waiting on anyway
but do people even care about buff early thirtes guys
like 6 or 7 years ago yeah gym would have been best if i were livign alone then too but now...
>I stopped progressign like 3 months in cause my diet isnt perfect cause i dont live alone and im beholden to why my family eats and cooks
Same, I made noob gains for 3 months before hard plateauing because I can't cook here. I just order ubereats and trying to track macros from restaurant food is impossible.
Honestly same brother, but most likely nothing is gonna change unless you force it. That's how it is for me anyway
As for if anyone wants a buff dude in his thirties, a decent amount of women like older guys, especially if you age well.
But who gives a shit about that I just wanna see Gankerros get huge
>see Gankerros get huge
that's a tad gay. are you sure you aren't here fishing for boipussy ?
Why, you offering?
Same problem here, except I know what I need to improve on, not sure what to do exactly to improve
This thread demonstrates why the modern man is so weak, and the irony in Ganker calling Redditors names like "soiboy."
yeah yeah bully eveyrone just get it out of your system
You deserve to be bullied. Look at this thread, then look at how Ganker bullies others. It's pure projection from the worst and weakest men on the planet.