>playing it for first time on hardcore
>70 hours in
>40% of map still unexplored
>still did not touch The Strip and DLC quests
>8GB of space required
>created in 18 months
Why can't new open world games have this much content? I don't care about ultra realistic 4k graphics when it's a 200gb of unoptimized slop with cookie cutter story and empty map that was a decade in development and needs NASA machine to power up
New Vegas is the last great FPS/RPG hybrid and also one of the very few open world games worth a shit, the game engine was mostly untouched from F3 so they focused on building a quality title that deserves the Fallout name.
It’s crazy that a half finished game ended up so good, but in fairness the engine was complete from 3 so the just focused on quality writing and content
The same engine that was complete from Oblivion >inb4 had to make pew pew mechanics
Besides, these days there are only a handful of engines that are used most often. It factors in, but means nothing without talent.
Now that you mention it, I don't know why they didn't add bows and arrows in Fallout. It is the go to primitive survival weapon. I know NV added spears and tomahawks but still no bows and arrows
Now that you mention it, coulda been Honest Hearts lore friendly.
I tried so many times to get into this game but I just don't like it. It looks like ass, none of the mechanics are explained, it barely fricking works on modern hardware, none of the people you meet in the first 2 hours (which is how long I could stand this game) are interesting. This should be right up my alley but I just hate every second of it.
Why are zoomers like this?
I'm probably twice your age kid
Show DOB on ID, zoomer
ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM
I WANT YOU IN MY ROOM
LETS BE ZOOMIES TOGETHER
FROM NOW UNTIL FOREVER
it aged like milk
Games only got worse since around 2006 so aged like milk compared to what exactly?
to the dogshit it was compared to around at the same time
You need nostalgia or hrt in your veins for it to be considered good in the current year but you really need to get a grip stop trying and trying to like a game you obviously don't it's a waste of time.
>it barely fricking works on modern hardware
>game keeps crashing
and these are examples of why new vegas is the best game ever
it filters touchpad zoomers, the ultimate gatekeeping
if you are too stupid to install basic bugfix patches for a game you need to stick to candy crush, fricking moron Black person apes
If you need patches for the game to be playable then it's not the best game ever.
You need patches for just about any game made before windows 10, dumbass. They all bug the frick out on win 10/11 without them.
Yeah, but New Vegas needed bugfix patches to be playable when it came out
18 months deadlines are a b***h. Despite the bugs and short dev time it's still better than every game Bethesda ever made except Morrowind, pretty impressive.
Eh, Morrowind's not that good.
i am playing fallout 3 right now on windows 10 and i have no problem whatsoever except for inexplicable frame drops sometimes, same thing with new vegas and i have no mods at all
3 has a shit ton of gamebreaking bugs and you need the unofficial fallout 3 patch if you want it to run they way it was supposed to, same with new vegas.
i haven't encountered any game breaking bugs so far
you will
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/19122
its funny that you pick the one game that is actually worse than NV
fallout 3 would crash constantly even on win 7
As a pre-requisite you have to like Bethesda games first(atleast the old ones). New Vegas is simply the best RPG Bethesda game(not made by bethesda). If you don't like Bethesda games, but like RPGs, you'll probably hate NV.
this is a fairly accurate statement
i loved fallout 3, even moved to DC area because of it. was neat walking around the mall i'd only known destroyed in 2277. years before that i loved morrowind. story rich first person RPGs with a strong loot/level-up drive. new vegas is the same way. it does seem a step down graphically from FO3 somehow, probably because xboxes were dropping like flies catching red ring around that time.
its pretty great. i will agree with you the start of the game is a filter. you're given free rein to wander into deathclaw territory right near the start, or just wander around the roads until you begin to put the pieces together. you'll find a lot of stuff out in the waste that doesn't make sense until you find its complementary component that gives you the exposition about it somewhere else. the writing is good though, and the political game later between you and the factions and your reputation based on own behaviors is top notch. i mustve played it 20 times in the past decade, always unpatched and unmodded via steam. currently on windows 10. give it another shot anon.
>it does seem a step down graphically from FO3 somehow
It might be the different filter?
It's probably environment work. Aesthetically appealing environmental layout is the one thing Bethesda has unironically be pretty good at for a long time (although I dunno how that worked out in Starfield) and one of the weaker parts of FNV. Yes, this does lead some Bethesda environments to look cartoony if you think about it too long (Megaton being one prime example) but they still tend to look better than your average NV settlement, which is literally just a small subdivision plopped onto a desert.
New Vegas' physical environment is probably the weakest aspect of it, especially with how tech limitations required them to split areas like the Strip and the casinos into a bajillion loading screens which makes them a pain in the dick to navigate.
>which is literally just a small subdivision plopped onto a desert.
I mean, that's exactly what nevada is like
It is. But it isn't visually interesting. It also leans into the other problem of everyone living in 200 year old pine frame houses that look like they'll give you lung cancer due to mold issues.
NV would have unironically benefitted from leaning into the western theme even harder. Adobe buildings, pop up trade towns a la Armadillo from Red Dead made from cheap, all-timber construction, new construction alongside pre-war stuff. Of course this would cost additional resources that they probably didn't have, so I understand why they just copy-pasted the house and shack assets from FO3 for the bulk of their smaller towns or one-off homesteads. But it doesn't change the fact that most of New Vegas' environments are bland and kinda by-the-numbers.
I also want to reiterate that separating so much of the Strip into different loading screens fricking kills the pacing/navigation there. Doing anything in Gomorrah is a massive pain in the ass even today. I can't imagine what it would be like with the original loading times.
>I also want to reiterate that separating so much of the Strip into different loading screens fricking kills the pacing/navigation there.
The game engine wouldn't have ran on xbox360/ps3 any other way. It's why the entire DC ruin in 3 is just connected by metro tunnel loading screens.
Yeah, I know there's a good reason for it. It just makes me seethe when I have to go back and deal with it.
>loved fallout 3, even moved to DC area because of it
Holy yikes. F3 gays are mentally ill.
Enjoy your crime-ridden shithole. It's only going to get worse.
Same bro, i love the story and how your choices will impact world but i just can't get into it because how boring and uninteresting fallout 3 gameplay is, would love to play it someday when some modder finally made a good modpack
>none of the mechanics are explained
????
tutorial town of goodsprings explains everything that will happen in the game from skill checks in the wild, speech checks, shooting, movement, camera, there's a psychology test to help you select your tag skills and everything else has a 1st time popup tutorial
They pay you INFINITY stealthboys and a freighterload of ammo every 3 days until Caesar's favor bugs out and stops refreshing until you do an esoteric quest restart ritual.
>none of the mechanics are explained
>in the game where constant pop-ups happen explaining in granular detail each mechanic
>usually in the first town that is notorious for being an extended tutorial
>after a detailed character creator which explains in detail each and every stat in the game and how they affect the player character
what in the goddamn
I probably would be in the same boat as you if I played this for the first time today. I'm currently replying this game after years of being away and it's going me huge nostalgia from my late teen years. Game is still charming as hell and funny.
>70 hours
>hardcore mode
Be honest anon. Normal you would've finished before now, and nobody fricking wants hardcore and survival modes in these games outside of a handful of tryhards trying to find something to wienercrow about, like MMO pvpers.
>nobody fricking wants hardcore and survival modes in these games
I liked Fallout 4 Survival mode
NTA but me too. I liked making a network of bases to store loot / sleep / sell stuff in because of no fast travel.
It's especially fun at the start when you have no food / water or anything and get straight up one shot by molotovs flying at your face 100mph. Makes the game actually a challenge
It was hard at beginning where I'd die 10 times to a fight, but I got used to hardcore plus got better armor/guns. Most of time played was spent on exploring map in search of side quests and interiors to hoard valuable items, for instance most of playthrough i had no idea ha that there is vast complex of sewers under New Vegas that's like another town
game keeps crashing for me bros please help I'm still in opening part
just follow a modding guide on youtube. NVAC is pretty important I think
try running the executable in compatibility mode, windows xp service pack 3. RMB on the .exe and click properties. and tick the run as admin box. these help for FO3. never had stability problems in fnv though, across muiltiple computers.
>Classic path
Make a character of your liking, do all the quests in Goodsprings and then move on to the prison and Primm
>Hard path
Create your character and head left out of of Goodsprings, fighting the makeshift great khan camp along the way and heading into New Vegas
>Giga brain path
Create a 10 luck character with 8 or higher agility, head straight for Camp Mccaran, get an NCR uniform from a trooper when they die in a random fight with raiders, use the monorail to head into the Strip, make 35k from blackjack, buy the implants from Usanagi, then go find Benny and start the main quest
What? The medium hard path is past hidden valley through scorpion gulch. This gets you straight from goodsprings to Helios 1
Did I say anything about the fricking medium path?
i hope your using the viva new vegas modpack. i always use that for my playthroughs.
It was made in 18 months because It's basically a mod for Fallout 3 since at least 60% of the game was already made for them. Really isn't that impressive. But otherwise I agree with you.
They had Van Buren's design doc to build upon for the world-building and story content, not to mention the existing Fallout 3 assets they could use. Still impressive either way because even with those resources at hand, developers could still be unfocused on what to do and they didn't.
41%.
YWNBAW
>70 hours in
>40% of the map unexplored
And how much of that was actually worthwile?
New Vegas locks like 99% shit behind the main quest that it's entirely pointless to explore outside of a few designated 'side' areas
>And how much of that was actually worthwile?
It's worthwhile if you enjoy the game. You find interesting places, new characters, new background lore, loot, unique weapons, etc
>New Vegas locks like 99% shit behind the main quest that it's entirely pointless to explore outside of a few designated 'side' areas
Wut? Are you saying because an area isn't important to the main quest that it somehow, in your mind, becomes 'locked'? And 99% seems a massive overestimation
Also if that's not what you were saying and you meant that 99% of content is locked behind the main quest you are straight up wrong. The Fort and Legate's Camp are the only locations locked behind main quest progression.
the best thing with new vegas is that it offers a chance for you to truly role-play since your character has no defined background. in all the other fallout games you are confined by the fact that you're either a vault dwelller or a tribal.
for example why would your fallout 2 tribal have science or energy weapons as a tag skill? why would you as a 19 year old vault dweller start going in a completely different direction and explore dangerous ruins in fallout 3?
this, theres so much content that modding (outside of bug fixes, performance stuff) is stupid unless you know the game inside out
Because games need to be 125 gigs, and have high-cost celebrity VAs, and mocap and a political message and-
New Vegas has 2 of those things
how did new vegas get all those big actors (with big roles as well) while fallout 3 had to kill off liam neesons character (probably because he was too expensive)?
Bethesda money post Fallout 3
What big actors? No one in New Vegas was close to the main stream appeal of Liam Neeson or Patrick Stewart. Personally I don't care much for them, casting celebrity movie actors for videogame VAs is moronic.
>Patrick Stewart
was he in a fallout game? well the new vegas actors weren't super main stream but for me they were kinda far out for a video game especially kris kristoffersson since i love his music
The original Fallout games has 2 of those things. Have you seen the original game's cast of voice actors?
>Clancy Brown
>Jim Cummings
>Keith David
>Tress MacNeille
>Ron Perlman
>CCH Pounder
>Tony Shalhoub
>Kath Soucie
>Cree Summer
>Frank Welker
Cause you must hire 500 artists instead of 1 good writer.
>70 hours in
>Did not touch The Strip
Black person what the frick are you even doing?
>>40% of map still unexplored
It's mostly boring and unnecessary areas with some new enemy that's just a version of another with more HP
>t. 100% it
I can fix him.
>female courier with black widow perk and 10str + 10end takes the chip back by literally fricking Benny to death and turning his pelvis into dust
The game doesn't use the full square of the map, only a vertical rectangle in the section. You may think you've only explored 60% but you've really explored 90%.
I'm playing it for the first time.
Some of the side quests are great (the ghoul rocket, the white glove club, etc.) but some of them are pretty damn annoying. You can feel that the design of these quests aged horribly, which makes sense. It's more than a decade old.
I really don't like the combat though. Maybe I just don't like FPS in general?
>the ghoul rocket
you did sabotage the rocket or outright massacred them from the get go, right?
Other than being delusional and ugly I don't think of them as bad, so I let them live.
>delusional and ugly
why yes that's two more reasons to exterminate them
the combat is just shit at best you can mod it to be slightly better
but not much you can do
>Playing hardcore
Opinion discarded
What are the benefits of siding with the Legion? They are "evil" to most of the other factions, but they are just not very interesting to be honest.
role playing purposes
>not very interesting
come on anon, they're awesome. their type of justice is what i'd expect in a lawless wasteland: some common sense moral rules that benefit society and are enforced harshly by a charismatic leader and his bodyguards.
as for "benefits"... well you get to be in the Legion. and you get some cool missions. truthfully though the faction is not fleshed out as it could have been. rushed production schedule. they also have me least favorite ending of the factions. and you get some of the backstory about graham and can use [Legion] points in dialogue with some characters.
+1 luck glasses. Uh, frick tons of loot from drop boxes. Shit, that's about it. Though you can get all that without doing Legion ending.
i forgot about the glasses. and anway, you can save joining the Legion for later, after doing a bunch of NCR quests if you really want to try it out. just don't confront benny until you're done larping with boone and killing legionaries around the wastes. you'll get a clean slate with caesar immediately after confronting benny.
Great game dogshit gameplay, i really wish the game had better gameplay
Reminder that Mr. House is the best overall option
>NCR
is a typical corrupt bureaucracy that taxes people for little in return and rewards the most corrupt and cutthroat politicians. They’re a copy paste of our current system and something new should be tried
>Legion
Once Caesar dies that’s it. Granted, you give him more time if you remove the tumor but nonetheless they’ll stretch themselves thin if they conquer the West and be plagued by infighting once Caesar dies. Within 20 years the Legion will be all but dismantled save for some remnant factions who are essentially raider groups
>Yes Man
Meme
House is the most unique of the options and something that hasn’t been tried yet: a technological stronghold in the middle of the wastes that is pushing forward to bring humanity a better future. It will be an autocratic dictatorship and he’ll deal with dissidents harshly though, so he’s not perfect.
House>Legion>NCR>Yes-Man
I hope the show canonizes him winning just to frick over NCRgays
Wait the show is going to cover New Vegas?
I haven't watched the trailers or anything because I don't want to be spoiled.
Show's in California in 2296
You would think they would make the show about New Vegas because that’s the most popular setting. Also so they can butcher Joshua Graham as part of the continued demoralization strategy in media
What makes you think they won't do that regardless?
Nobody gives a shit about mormons
>Also so they can butcher Joshua Graham
How about:
>Joshua Graham was in a homosexual relationship with Caesar
>After he got burnt, he moved on and started a relationship with the much safer Daniel who treats him right
>Also he's black
you're hired
>frick over NCRgays
House keeping New Vegas would do the NCR a favor, honestly.
But the NCR is going to get completely fricked in the show. Even if not maliciously and intentionally, it will come from moronic writing and brotherhood wank.
House is way too interesting of a character to kill off so I suspect House ending will be the canon choice.
>netflix new vegas
ayo new joshua graham dropped
a pencil sketch in the style of video game concept art of a 150lb six foot tall man wearing dark dusty blue jeans and black cowboy boots, and an off-white dirty western button up shirt. over this he is wearing a black nylon body armor. his arms and face and hands are totally covered in gauze bandages except for his fingertips and the area around his eyes and bridge of nose. he is african american.
Show's from Amazon
Also, Mr Bear-and-Bull is already a black legion guy, we don't need 2, it'd be racist
>Fade-to-black sex scenes
0/10. No explicit Ghoul breasts.
new vegas was also unplayable at launch with shit ton of bugs. Let not pretend most of the asset is not recycled from Fallout 3 so most of the hard work has already been done.
fallout 1
>you are on your own pretty much, you need a water chip to get water for your vault
>endgame threat is threat to your vault, simple ending boss
fallout 2
>expanded map expanded weapons, ok sounds good but heres a bunch of bullshit dialogue, jokes, faction bullshit slowly crept in, cult game for oldgays
fallout 3
>bunch of shit thrown together, ignore worthy story but doesn't matter anyways its ok to explore instead
new vegas
>more faction bullshit, fallout 2 cancer taken to next level
4
>even more faction bullshit, its fallout 3 but not fallout 3, its new vegas faction shit halfassed even more from new vegas halfassing 2 concepts
game is overrated and was just the next game in trashing series goodwill. 76 atleast fixed some things.
post your most recent fo1 save
And right away the new vegas internet defense force responds as soon as you critique their holy grail. Fallout 4 had perfect setup in its route to get to diamond city, and hunt down kellogg only to shit the bed as soon as you are forced into faction war hero larping. People remember the DLC far harbor far and nuka world more then the core game cause the core game past kellogg was trash trying to be new vegas all over again. The series was never meant to be self insert general of some big group and build a story. New vegas defenders holding the game up so high compared to the rest of the series are midwits in their own fantasy.
>enters a thread for a game
>shits on said game
>somebody makes a cheap joke at you in response
>OH MY GOD LOOK AT HOW INSANE THIS GAME'S FANS ARE
Are you moronic?
>he thinks fallout 4 was better
>he thinks fallout 4 post-kellogg was trying to be new vegas
the philosophical question about "what really is it to be human" and what is the difference afterall between synths, humans, and power armored human cyborgs really flew over your head didnt it. protip: there isn't one. also FO4 sucked dicks terrible game.
world is a frick, liberate 'em all
41,527,124 dead slavers
i am railroad gang
I never had much technical issues with NV, 3 on the other hand was an unstable mess, even on Win7
I just really like the DLCs.
>created in 18 months
Considering like 90% of the assets were from FO3 this shouldn't be surprising.