PoE 2 won't have:
movement skills
quicksilver flasks
crafting bench
"more damage" support gems
orb of scouring
orb of alteration
instant portal scrolls in boss arenas
logout macro
gem vendor
divination cards
negative elemental penetration (caps at 0%)
you also need to manually refill flasks at a vendor in town. normal monsters no longer grant any flask charges. refilling in town means you'll waste 20 seconds every single time.
chaos orb was changed to:
removes a random mod and augments a rare item with a new random mod
bosses reset to full health when all players in the boss arena die
>PoE is healing
Thanks for the info, OP!
Yeah all of this is a good thing
Your baby Diablo-likes are finally turning into adult Souls-likes
>Blizzdrones already on damage control
>Game is more like diablo 4
>Blizzdrones on damage control
moron
>Frick you b***h. We are not on damage control, we still are number one and will be even if this shit comes out.
buffs on flasks that last 2.5 seconds leading to mindlessly mashing his entire row of flasks to quaff them every 2 seconds was always a cancerous idea from the start
moronic dev needed to learn how to pace damage properly instead of 100%->DEAD in a split second because everyone is constantly guzzling pots.
you know you can craft flask mod that uses itself whern its buff expires?
Yes nowadays, but for 8years you couldn't. Also you cant craft them during the campaign because you dont have enough of the fricking orbs
This has always been the problem with PoE, and will always be the problem with PoE. Health is essentially a binary, either you're in no danger at all or you're instantly dead.
That's more I could've hoped for. PoE1 is utter fricking trash made for mentally defficient autists. It's not even a game really, it's just a combination of a complex calculator and a complex slot machine and a clusterfrick on top of it. I didn't think GGG would ever admit that PoE should be scrapped and started anew.
But they miraculously did that. The bald motherfricker really thinks deep, it takes to be a real man to admit your mistakes and start from scratch. Even if it would take 2 more years to fully complete, it's a huge step up from poe2
>poe2 won't just be poe1 with updated graphics
Gee golly, color me surprised!!
PoEbros, we're going home!
For me it was one of the few unexpected good things in our cursed timeline. With how fast gaming turns into shit, any good news is a miracle.
The second recent surprise for me was the news about Caves of Qud being released by the Dwarf Fortress publisher. There's truly hope for it being finished some day and even having an updated tileset. 2 good news in one week is a double miracle.
>coming out 2025
Who gives a frick? Wake me up when I can play it.
Seems weird for them not to capitalize on D4 being shitty. It's not as if they didn't have a long time to plan for this.
They don't even need a PoE 2, just release a massive expansion or something at around mid 2023 when people are thoroughly done with D4.
Bro, mid 2023 is in the past.
Another good thing is that it could split the audience in two. Turbo morons will still come back to PoE1 and keep mindlessly grinding for hours to hear a single SCHWUUUNG sound. Also Chinese bots and currency flippers will stay with them.
At the same time true gamers will play 2 and have so what healthy economy and community
>Also Chinese bots and currency flippers will stay with them.
So naive.
>movement skills
good, no one used anything but flame dash anyway
>quicksilver flasks
good
>crafting bench
as long as they make currency more useful, good
>"more damage" support gems
good
>instant portal scrolls in boss arenas
>logout macro
GOOD
>gem vendor
you can pick which gem you want when they drop
>divination cards
if they increase drop rates for uniques or have a way to craft them, good
>negative elemental penetration
good
>you also need to manually refill flasks at a vendor in town.
only actually bad thing. They will probably backpedal on this, since it's moronic
>chaos orb was changed
good
>bosses reset to full health when all players in the boss arena die
good
I was kinda unsure how to feel about poe2, thanks for making me a bit more optimistic 🙂
>PoE 2
lol.
Pretty good turn out for New Zealand, the place is a Chinese puppet state at this stage where everyone who isn't a billionaire has to make some fake language to get a job. No businesses are allowed to operate if they don't employ a cannibal for 200k a year.
most of that shit is garbage, sounds interesting
I probs won't play it though
>no logout macro
>in Hack slash
Yeah sure
>movement skills
I bet there are some skill you will able to spam to move around faster with some legendary
By adding a dodge, that in my mind gets rid of anything like flame dash or adjacent to it where it would make the dodge not needed. Plus they kept talking about "and this skill has movement built in, and this one retreats a little bit".
Damn, that's pretty cool. Looking forward to playing it.
That all actually sounds good
But as long as trade remains how it is then I'm not going to play the fricking thing
Give me an SSF mode with 10x buffed drop rates.
SSF already exists and there is nothing wrong with the drop rates. If you expect to be able to play some obscure build requiring a specific unique then that's exactly what the trade leagues are for.
Why does it have to be that way? Can you give me a single good reason? Frick trade. I want to play meme builds without having to deal with that homosexual Wilson's idea of 'Player Interaction'
>why can't i just get a mageblood in day 1 ssf?
man, frick off
just play trade then, get your build required uniques and play the rest as SSF
You have all the options in the world, but you're just being a b***h about them
Hyperbole is not an argument
I want to play the game, not treat it as a job. Let me get to the fun part where I make obscure builds with random uniques that might completely fail without feeling like I wasted 30+ hours getting the shit together for those builds. Literally how would it affect you if that was an option for me? You're trapped in Wilson's mind prison and defending tedium for the sake of tedium in game design with no motivation other than some twisted crab logic.
Either overhaul trade or let me play SSF with drop rates that aren't based on trade.
Looks like trade is exactly what you want then?
Why do you insinst on being such an obnoxious homosexual?
Wow look at all these non-arguments
Your game is shit
then dont play it Black person
>hey I want this
sure, you can do it this way
>I DON'T WANT THIS, I WANT OTHER OPTION
okay, here's your other option
>NO I DON'T WANT THIS EITHER
sure, you can do this instead
>NO, I DON'T WANT THIS, WHY IS THE GAME SO SHIT?
how fricking moronic can you be, holy christ
yes it does
Aw yeah, more werewolf games. Seems pretty far away, I'll put it on my watch list then.
>just make the game for me and only me
how about you frick off b***h
You have the option. Play trade league, only buy the uniques you need and the rest SSF. Explain to me why you cant do this? Most of the uniques only cost pennies so you literally don't have to grind anything.
There are 1000+ uniques in the game and you can't expect the specific one you need to be handled to you on a silver platter. There are million different builds that work perfectly fine without rare uniques, play those or frick off. Don't come ruining the only good game mode for others because you can't be arsed to actually play the game and just want to get everything handed to you for free.
>it just DOES, ok???? idiot..
>I wasn't pretending to be moronic, I'm actually moronic
frick off already
The same reason why you start at level 1 instead of level 100. Progression is enjoyable. Getting everything you want instantly isn't. It also allows very powerful items to exist since it takes a very long time or getting very lucky to get them
This post is a fantastic example of a fan boy with a mental disorder.
This post is perfect example of an anon being desperate for a singular (You). Open wide.
But can they make the gameplay actually engaging and not a 1-2 loop for hours and hours?
Doubt it.
>throwing the previous game under the bus to promote the new one
So why Poe1 got so much praise and held in high regard if it was so trash as people say now.
Will you play the new leagues despite knowing how shit it supposedly is
poe 1 is good or at least as good as an ARPG can be. people who shit on it are just bitter the game has a modicum of challenge
Its old but it is good. It still has many problems but it is way better than any other arpg. If you like Poe no other arpg can match what it does. So im hoping poe2 is more or less poe1 with less jank
It's only been super shit for the last 3 leagues or so, while it had been maintained by 20 people while most others worked on PoE2, supposedly they realised 2 would take too long and allocated more devs to 1 for this next league, so it shouldn't be as half assed as the last few ones, either in patch changes or the league quality, or so I hope.
Diablo 4 sucks
>PoErs be like YOOOOOOOOOO
>runs around like a moron untl he gets swarmed
holy shit is DSP at exilecon??
Skill issue
Looks kino, maybe a tad bit slow but it's low level content so who knows what endgame gameplay pace will be like
this actually is pretty good but I'm holding any real judgement until we see the endgame. Act 3 gameplay is irrelevant to what the game will actually play like
>Charge for 3 seconds to do like 10% of the boss's hp
Thrilling
To me it feels like they want the D3/4 mentality of skill rotations, using 4-5 skills actively, no spammable movement skill
I will never understand GGG and the polar extremes.
>It's either a turbozoom instant death hellscape
>Or a miserably slow "experience"
This looks good, but needs to be around 30% faster.
so it's no longer an arpg but a soulslike
>roll
>attack
>roll
>attack
>roll
>attack
>roll
>attack
yeah, super fun "gameplay"
what games do you like anon
If I wanted to play shit souls I would play that instead. I want to run around and blast screens with one button while getting insane loot.
well, good thing PoE 1 isn't going anywhere then, right?
>I want to run around and blast screens with one button while getting insane loot.
then just play poe1?
>but I want a new game that's exactly like the old one
why?
damn, guess dark souls must be super unpopular
As much as souls games are trash, I'd much rather do that gameplay in 3rd person and not top-down/isometric shit like Path of Excrement. But I'd do neither in the end.
thats nothing. in the year 2030, EVERY game will be rollslop. yes, even gta6 and leage of legends.
Sit down PoEtards and look how a proper ARPG plays
>ARPG
all I see is a spreadsheet full of random words and numbers
I can't see shit
>can't even tell if it's D3 or "new" D3+1
lmao'ing @ blizz golems that fell for this scam
>vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable
>fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified fortified
54356 16083 14392 52856 99103 37050 25380 37144 17122 62667 48191 28116
Where's the game?
Good.
Unnecessary bloat is not deep gameplay.
Let's see how the endgame looks first, leveling might be more in Poe2 but it still can become a zoomfest later.
os POE2 a seperate game or will people have all their POE1 characters and cosmetics in it?
separate game, separate characters. shared cosmetics + stashes
It's a separate game AND stashes/cosmetics transfer over. POE1 characters do not transfer over.
>want to push the genre forward and try new things
>know their enfranchised fanbase would flip their shit
>decide to keep PoE1 separate
I really don't see the problem. Imagine if all these changes were coming to PoE1 as well.
Pushing the genre forward is a fool's game
Players are always going to optimize the gameplay out of the ARPG as much as they possibly can because this genre is frickin brain poison, man. Numbers go up! Everything that stops numbers going up is an obstacle to be eliminated pre-emptively! Might as well play fricking Microsoft Excel.
Yet I can't fricking stop. I don't enjoy these games but I inevitably find myself playing them anyway.
>refilling in town means you'll waste 20 seconds every single time.
Umm honey? Don't get hit? Don't take damage??
All of this sounds great. PoE1 has become a bloated mess where you just get as many damage mults as you can then zoom around like a moron until you get one shot. Its good to see they are starting over and making the game more reactive so enemies can punish people playing like shit instead of need one-shot bullshit everywhere because its the only thing that counters the current meta.
Does it have werewolves tho?
Literally the only reason I'm playing diablo 4
Poe? More like pooy hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahhhahahaha
Nice, another Minoan maze of mindless zombies shilling PooE pretending they weren't brain drained by hardcore gambling addiction to:
> F2P
> Jank animations
> Always online
> Mobile-tier gameplay
> Crafting that's pure gacha
Whoops, sorry, bro, the pull for that upgrade you've been grinding 40 hours for failed, lul. But hey, here in the
> Cash shop with..
> Multi-hundred dollar skins
> Any kind of cool FX is pay-walled
> And your build will be worthless in a month
But wait! There's more! Not only is the (always online) single player shit, for an unlimited amount of your time you'll get:
> A super shitty community constantly trying to rip you off in the market place after you cave in and decide to just buy the upgrade you failed to craft three times in a row from some chink bot farmer
> It really is just a shitty community of MAZED zombies really
> No, seriously, they're like crackheads and will rip you off like junkies with an itch for just another pull... I can quit any time, bro, just one more pull... I'm sure to get that big 0.3% boost on stagger resistance!
> Chink Chong Ding Dong Bing Bang Wahoo!
> You're sending your money to China
That's what they're shilling. Real quality stuff that's totally worth the headaches and skinner box debit crater in your bank account. Just look at Mazeboi! How you doing, homosexual?
"mazed"-autist found the thread, party over everyone
Just keeping my promise, bro. After all, what's a man but the worth of his word, innit.
I've never seen someone's mind so shattered by a videogame they don't like
I feel like there's a rich backstory here, please share
But I just did you flea ridden shut-in compulsively janking a sweat stained football team cap with a pair of dancing horns pulled by string. It's right fricking there you drooling gobbler, or are you on the nod again? Fricking junkies. It's like it says.
The dude that bakes these shitty marketing threads loves to play the cop-out victim card that anybody who points out what a dodgy casino with a shambling gambling community of pitiful mummified MAZED addicts PooE is, they're automatically a team of marketing Pajeets from the crack telemarketing rooms of Mumbai's internationally famous steak knife phone sales industry. Every fricking thread until I finally pulled him up on it only to watch him go full spaghetti mode melting down faster than Sloppenheimer's vanilla ice cream accidentally left behind at Trinity.
Fine. In that case I'm happy to lend a hand. Here's my rendition of Shillbot 5000: Extra Seething MAZED Edition I prepared earlier. Let the dulcent tones of the kvetching of self-hating addicts soothe and carry me to a comfy slumber of delicious dreams of games that aren't an online only monetized casino designed to lure in and milk autists who love making builds and get autistic with min/maxing seriously. In other words people with addictive personalities.
And that's the thing. What a shitty, manipulative and exploitative business model. See I know that you and the rest of the MAZED Mongos deep down know I'm right. And I also know that you all wished you had the spine to have quit before it really took hold grinding endgame like I did. I'm just reminding you and any potential future sucker that might fall for the early stage "free" gameplay before the map stashes start becoming a regular purchase along with a deep sadness at a life wasted takes hold that you, too can quit and be free like me. Free to shit you homosexuals off with custom made copypasta. So get your shit together. Do it for your fleshlight
ok but that's not what I was asking, I just want to know why you're here, in every thread, melting down because you don't like a videogame. It seems like a colossal waste of time to type out dozens of paragraphs about some shitty vidya knowing you're not gonna convince anyone. Did chris wilson kill your family or something?
Actually I'm starting to think you make the poe threads just so people read your schizo rambles
Being angry and shitposting is more fun than playing Path of Exile
Not that guy btw
>shitposting about a game you don't play
>everyone just brushes you off as a schizo autist and calls you a moron
yeah, that's some great fun right there
I didn't say it was fun, anon, I merely claimed that it was more fun than actually playing the dogshit that Chris Wilson serves up.
I loved Path of Exile, once.
Oh it's no trouble at all. No, really. I don't mind "melting down" over... uhhh... Well see that's the thing. Other than wanting to make the point that this game is a predatory Chinese skinner box, my other big "melt" is the pleasure I get knowing you are sweating unable to keep up.
Because kid, you just regurgitated my own post back at me where I made a nice, visually simulating point of you going through the various states of vanilla ice cream from solid to vapour to super heated plasma in the time it takes for an an electron to spin around the nucleaus of an atom losing it's shit like you at an all you can eat 70+ senior's swingers bukkake.
That's some really sloppy work you shoelace tripping shambler. You're letting your master, the man of your most fervent erotic dreams, the balding, flexing flabby stud reclining on the golden sands of Istanbul, whose bunghole you lazily eat out as he grunts and sweats and furiously pounds his little throbber aiming awkwardly at your face for his creamy finale garnishing your lovestruck pudgy face with the Crème de la Crème à la Wilson fresh from his hairy sack. His personally curated rancidest load brewed with daily steak and asparagus feasts to give it that real homeless dry retching taste. I mean look at you. You can't go a thread without mention Chris "Tencent" Wilson and how he dindunuffin. You're at the point of passively aggressively trying to guilt me into stopping because... Chris Wilson?
lmao wut.
I mean shit, if Sissy Chrissy wants to broker a peace treaty, how about selling the game normally so that people can play the fricking thing properly with the full set of content and without important shit locked behind a paywall.
Oh yeah... Tencent would have his balls and then you would no longer get your weekly load of Chris' rancid semen showers warmly embracing your keen, happy face after a heavy round of deep throat dick spelunking. I would hate that you might end up on a memorial plaque for the 41%.
can you at least put on a trip so I can filter you
Why? Don't you want Chrischan Willie to find out how much you adore his company at night? Shy? Don't worry, bro. I got your back. Plus, I get to make more copy pasta for future use.
> You vill read ze posts.
> You vill seethe uncontrollably.
> You vill not be able to formulate a worthy reply.
> And you vill be unhappy.
You begging just makes my monstrous member longer and harder. Any more wailing and gnashing of teeth and you're going to turn it into the pillar of salt that fricked the prostitutes of Babylon on God's behalf in the old testament.
But greatness comes at a cost. And you're stuck with the cheque. Hey, maybe if you call Chrissy-poo on his private man-ass hotline on your speed dial of your water and jizz-proof bukakke phone, rated to 200 fat old Japanese businessmen in Studio Ghibli fursuits' spaghetti loads on the international bukkake degeneracy meter. Who knows? Maybe if you beg nicely and promise to do the thing he likes but which makes you feel cheap and degraded and unable to shit right for a month, he might throw you some loose change from the nickel and dime bag filling from grifting players for years recycling one shittier league to the previous after another if you ask him nicely. I know he likes it if his fans tickle the back of his hairy misshapen scrotum when tickling his shaft with their tonsils while squeezing his +2 Herpes studded Rod of Creamy Delights with your lungs after inhaling his engorged meat like it was the finest goblin strength long bottom leaf aphrodisiac this side of Southfarthing. Which isn't something your neighbors enjoy smelling all night when they wake up at 3am in the morning to you screaming in prostate-jackhammered agony serving as the elite power-bottom your Lord likes more than nerfing good builds for kicks.
Ohh, Willie, do me like a corn dog! OOHHHHH! YEAH! SHOOT IT IN ME LIKE A PRESIDENTAL KENNEDY CAVALCADE ASSASSINATION! Oh yeah! Split my prostate with your cum nuke, Mr Oppenwilson!
>PoEgays begging you to get a tripcode so they can hide away from your posts and shill in peace
yep, you are extremely based
they hate you because you tell them the truth
They'd be right. Sure, I'm fricking with Mazeboi and trolling him hard, but I ain joking about what I saw of the game before I quit. And I am not fooling around describing the addictive nature of this game coupled with it's genuinely mobile-like gameplay. Which would be fine if it were great, but it's not. I wish it were. Hell, as I said, if I could buy the game, I would. But setting yourself up for a constant F2P monetized grind for the foreseeable future? I fell for it once and once only.
Never again.
See what this game actually is, is a carefully curated addiction generator built on the generations of behavioral science that multi-billion dollar corporations both have access to, and can afford to deploy with the help of psychologists and marketing experts to fine tune a game not for optimum gameplay, but for maximum profitability. I am not being facetious when I say that your enjoyment of the game comes a far distant last after the corporate needs of the service. because that is of course what it is: a game as a service.
It's the kind of game, that if the Chinese efficiency and development supervisors thought they could milk some more by increasing the discomfort of playing the game, whether due to a dumb mechanic like failing a crafting pull, or creating some new magic McGuffins that needed new types of stash, they'll do it. And they will do it by rolling it into leagues so most people never even notice. They know that by keeping you just under a certain pleasure threshold and in a constant state of irritation, you are more likely to cave in and buy shit to help you through the grind in the cash shop or market space.
They all do.
That is, straight up, what this company does. Remember that in it's vast portfolio, Tencent has several popular gachas. This is the kind of experience they bring to the game: a masters in nickel and diming.
Anyhoo... I think I scared off Mazeboi. Whoops. My bad. Come back, Mazeboi! Join usss. We all shill down here...
picrel is the only thing i can think of whenever i see maze posting
genuine masterpiece of a shitpost image
Holy fricking based beyond belief post. Too much testosterone condensed in one post for the average homosexual here.
>> A super shitty community constantly trying to rip you off in the market place after you cave in and decide to just buy the upgrade you failed to craft three times
kek i've got one better
the one time i tried using the TFT discord for harvest craft trades, a lithuanian guy who could barely speak english took my item hostage and demanded "paypal $15" to give it back to me
i capitulated because it was a one-of-a-kind extremely dedicated craft process that the moron could have sold for over $200 and i was never going to be able to make another
uninstalled and never went back a week later when i realized what i'd been doing with my life for the last 4 years
This guy is right. I get playing poe for like a few weeks, setting CLEAR goals (e.g. 40/40, x uber kill, x challenge completed, x currency collected, craft 1 mirror tier item etc.) and then quitting the game, but playing this game days on end with no goal in mind while continuously buying mtx? You're being milked like an obedient cow, there's no way around it. You're the product. You are their means to a big salary (and they're not even good people).
That being said, poe players are 10 times better than the gigantically moronic, mentally challenged rejects that get milked by blizzard. Playing inferior games just to give that absolute goblin (bob kotick, JUST LOOK AT HIS GOD DAMN FACE HOW CAN YOU GIVE YOUR MONEY TO SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE THAT) money is insanely pathetic.
Oh, absolutely, Blizzard does the same. On top of which they suffer from bullshit uniquely of their own creation. Always online gaas' have very fundamental common mechanical requirements to make them into the addictive skinner box slot machines that they are. And here's the thing. You can legitimately see the difference when you play a normal arpg like Victor Vran, or GD or Norrath or whatever. They also have that loot serotonin hit, but there is one, very basic and fundamental difference.
You are always aware that even if you don't get that Dark Ebony Gauntlet of Eternal Demonic Fisting with that kick ass buff to the masturbation tree, you at least know that you CAN, and likely will with RNG that is designed for YOU and YOUR game, not Tencent investors and THEIR profit needs. So in a non-skinner game there is always a sense of hope and you look forward to pulling again without the constantly growing cloud hanging around your head because your gut is telling you that you're being used like a cheap prostitute. And with crafting, you'll get something without running the risk of of a critical fail that leaves you with less than nothing to convince you to pull your wallet instead.
In other words it leads to a less stressful, 'I hate it but cannot quit" experience. So if you do get addicted, at least you only have to blame yourself and aren't being drained dry by a pack of ethically bankrupt game designers, gambling statisticians, behaviorists and every other marketing leech and wannabe Chris Wilson butt-plug this side of a Shanghai triple headed trumpet blowjob waiting for him from Mazeboi and crew.
YES CHRIS! RNG me like you mean it you crafty hunk of throbbing spunk shots!
Which weirdly isn't even far off the truth. Anyone remember that time he got caught serving better RNG to e-celeb streamers than normal players? All so it would look like the game isn't an RNG nightmare bred in the deepest bowels of Xi Jinping's sex dungeon.
>Anyone remember that time he got caught serving better RNG to e-celeb streamers than normal players
source?
Remove flasks, having to piano 1-5 constantly the entire time you're playing is a trans person
>he thinks you still have to manually flask in POE1
If you're Evasion, non-crit based you're definitely boned in that regard.
Evasion is for cucks
>he is here
thread over, only mindless shitflinging from here on now
Remember when this was supposed to be POE 4.0? Now its a new game; probably some streamlined gacha slot-machine for cellphones. The chinks destroy everything they touch.
>probably some streamlined gacha slot-machine for cellphones.
Holy moron making shit up
Hellbirther will have:
breasts
ass
big boobs
killin demons
pissin fuel on the dead demons (soon being added)
realistic diarrhea physics
orb of suck my balls
All of those are positives though
Doomers need a new strategy, this low effort shit isn't gonna work.
>movement skills
Not only confirmed they are in, a lot of attacks have movement skills strapped onto them.
>gem vendor
No need since all gems drop uncut and you get every gem you want trough it.
The rest of what you list is literally just improvements.
>quicksilver flasks
>crafting bench
>"more damage" support gems
>instant portal scrolls in boss arenas
>logout macro
>negative elemental penetration (caps at 0%)
>bosses reset to full health when all players in the boss arena die
How could anyone unironically think these changes are bad? I can understand the caring about the other ones, but you are a complete gayot/shitter if you defend this shit.
Especially
>bosses reset to full health when all players in the boss arena die
>logout macro
Sounds good to me. Were these supposed to be bad? Only thing that really matters is integrating path of building or making the game's talent tree somewhat accessible to human beings.
the skill tree is literally the simplest part of the game, literally just path to increased damage and increased life
>dood it's simple
>crab build
based
but no, it actually is simple. Just because there's lots of nodes doesn't mean it's complicated. You just path to nodes that give you damage and nodes that improve give you life or improve your defences
Yeah I get that but i'm not incentivised to explore the tree at all because it is so punishing to change my talents. I have an autistic friend who just makes builds for me and says it is easy.
Use a planner to figure it out before hand. I guarantee once you tinker with it for a while it'll become obvious. Ask your friend for input and you'll quickly realize that it is easy. It's genuinely the easiest part of putting together a build
Nah I like giving him something to do, he is a NEET and he needs purpose.
that's sweet. I also have a newbie friend I enjoy helping
It's fake complexity, like much of PoE
PoE2 is a shit dead game. Nobody wants this.
me
there you go, one person wants, you can kys now
holy meltie
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
the absolute state of krautgay
I like all of these except flasks and boss health resetting
Why is every modern ARPG so terrible in a new and novel way
Based. Love seeing my old screenshots like I love seeing this dogshit game and company slowly but surely die due to their incompetence and Chinese rot.
I'm fine with all that except movement skills. What's their problem?
take it slow.
>movement skills
>quicksilver flasks
>crafting bench
>"more damage" support gems
>orb of scouring
>orb of alteration
>instant portal scrolls in boss arenas
>logout macro
>gem vendor
>divination cards
>negative elemental penetration (caps at 0%)
>you also need to manually refill flasks at a vendor in town. normal monsters no longer grant any flask charges. refilling in town means you'll waste 20 seconds every single time.
>chaos orb was changed to:
>removes a random mod and augments a rare item with a new random mod
>bosses reset to full health when all players in the boss arena die
I'm a total noob to PoE1. Can someone explain to me why each of these changes are supposedly bad?
makes the game too hard for the average sc tradebab (90% of poe1 players)
where is the source
/the extended gameplay that streamgays did after the presentation looked a bit ropey, but apparently it was purposefuly overtuned for the event so I'm not too worried.
Besides if it's shit I can just not play it and not have spent anything.
>and not have spent anything
why lie?
I bought stash tabs for POE like 5 years ago. I've also not played it for about 3 years.
POE 2 will supposedly be free to play with your old purchases carrying over so I should be in a good position to just try it out.
If I don't like I just stop playing it. What's so hard to understand?
>movement skills
Everything already seems to be a movement skill to an extent so I doubt that.
>quicksilver flasks
good
>crafting bench
Even if the game was amazing without it they couldn't possibly do this without endless b***hing, even while leaving an alternative to it in PoE1, this won't happen.
>orb of scouring
>orb of alteration
who knows?
>instant portal scrolls in boss arenas
Doubt
>logout macro
good. Am I the only hc player who hates logout macros? If it becomes normalized then the game doesn't get balanced around decent encounters, you either have stupid shit that deletes your character instantly or you don't.
>gem vendor
big doubt
>divination cards
very big doubt
What the frick is the rest of this fanfiction shit?
Why did I even bother reading this post?
God, this website has turned to a pile of shit.
Everything listed has been confirmed in the Exilecon.
I like most of these changes.
I hope BFR is exclusive to poe 2 now, so poe 1 can become good again, since it is a separate game
BFR?
Bald fricking moron
Chris is lead on PoE 1, Jonathan is lead on PoE 2
Its poever
Why did you crop the achievements of posters?
>movement skills
This has been debunked. You can see flame dash being used in the showcase videos or was it play testers videos, who cares but it's there.
Great
>we want the Elden Ring audience
why are Western devs so pathetic?
Does this look western to you? If you can read the writing on the wall it's obvious who's taking the game in that direction for which audience.
>Top down camera
>click to move
>rolls cancel any attack animation
They aren't even doing it right.
>can spam roll with no cost at all
Fricking embarrassing, do these flags even the game they mention?
Can you gays go back to /poeg/
You guys just post the same exact shit daily
>turns PoE into D4
>adderal junkie behavior patterns
>"knows nothing about PoE 1"
>completely sheltered second-hand opinions on how players treated and played the first game
hated every second of this pill popper on the screen, nothing good can come of his presence working on the game
>"more damage" support gems
Unironically a good thing, since the mere presence of "more damage" options makes them mandatory on damage builds and reduce your options for building interesting things.
At least poe2 won’t be as big of a scam like fallout 76 & cyberpunk, bfr sticks to his guts and dabs on reddit morons
>bfr sticks to his guts and dabs on reddit morons
Too bad bfr is not working on PoE2 at all.
All the terrible changes they did to the game in the last two and a half year were pointless and with malicious intent. The decision to separate the games is older than a year at least and kept secret to push outright shite changes on PoE1. What a colossal disaster.
>removed almost every game mechanic
so it's basically going to be vampire survivors. cool.
stop samegayging my dude, you were long filtered before 3.15
source on all of these
>long filtered before 3.15
If you post shit like this and don't back it up with a 8mod feared kill, a 100% delirious map clear or an uber kill on hardcore, I'm going to automatically assume you're a larping shitter and instantly discard your 'argument/opinion'.
>even mentioning logoutcore in the year 2023
I will now instantly discard your 'argument/opinion'.
It's still better than none of the other achievements. Git gud, stay filtered and frick off Black person.
>PoE 2 won't have:
>"more damage" support gems
Significantly easier to balance the game, I don't see any issue with this. Frick more damage support gems.
>logout macro
PEDELCORE IS GONE? HAHAHAH HARDKEKS BLOWN THE FRICK OUT
>divination cards
Good. Frick this useless item bloat/clutter.
>negative elemental penetration (caps at 0%)
Again, much easier to balance. Physical builds are shit at the moment SPECIFICALLY because elemental penetration can go below 0. Just buy omni, stack some stats and faceroll game. Physical builds? You gotta have 100% impale chance, increased impale effect, overwhelm physical resistance, additional impale stacks or scale it with bleed / poison. And it's still worse. Frick that and any meta cuck defending that system.
real schizo hours ITT
Still won't be a bigger disaster than FO76 tbqh
>One disaster excuses an unrelated other disaster.
Great argument.
>everyone loves poe2
>doomBlack folk in full meltdown mode posting on cd
kek
reminder that the he got filtered by conquerors atlas
>when sirus was put in the game my atlas bricked twice
of course the doomer is a brainlet
Your memory is clouded. When it got introduced, there were no indicators on what to do to make conquerors spawn. But you would know if you didn't base your entire knowledge of what you learned a year later from the PoE university. Bet you also printed out your degree. LOL
have any more of his shit takes?
bump
>KRAUT GO FILTERED BY SIRUS
OH NO NO NO
AJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJA
Oh no no no no
not my fault that you're a brainlet who does't want to learn anything and blames it on bugs
It was a common problem. Sounds more like you are having a grudge.
to be fair to this guy. when they introduced void stones having to move them around over and over again was genuinely the most fricking moronic thing ever, the current design is the best.
As far as I remember, there was no indicator for three leagues or more on the left side to where to socket them to get the conquerors to spawn. Dozens of people reported to running 100 maps and more without a spawn, even on 4cuck.
Even Ashur spawned them without any problems tbh
>make POE2 a separate game
>still decide to port over 250 skill gems and 1500 passive skills
They could have started fresh without all this bloat. What are they thinking?
?
>bloat
moron.
I mean, yeah, he's a moron for complaining about 1500 passives. I gotta admit 250 skills sounds like a little bit too much to me as well for launch. That's like 80 per stat alignment. Even if you include support gems in this, that's like 40-40 split. I think PoE 1 launched with less than a 20-20 split.
nice try blizztroon, you got filtered now frick off
Nah man, am an avid PoE fan, been here since 2013 Open Beta. Might be fine with 20 skills per class (which you can then mix and match of course). Wonder how many support gems we're getting ontop of this.
you're not fooling anyone kraut. you can leave now you pathetic troony
It might be fine with how they're introducing it across the 12 classes though. 20 per class sounds about right.
250 skills isn't necessarily a problem if they were even remotely competitive with each other, but like 90% of them are completely useless and haven't been used in ten years.
That's part of what I don't like about it. Super hard to balance 250 skills where more than just a few become relevant. It might be more in function to each character having 20 distinct skills. Not a dumb way to go about it, makes the game more new-player friendly to introduce skills through dedicated roles. Once you go off the rails and mix and match though, I imagine we'll see a whole lot of unused skills with overlapping skills across the roles trumping others. I guess another point here is the skills you get through caster weapons, those are likely included in this 250 count?
With the amount of time and number of people worked on making this game they could've made a PoE mmorpg. Leave poe as an arpg to Chris since he seems to be the only one who understands what the frick arpg means.
>poe actually getting fixes
>krautschizo makes doomsissy thread
>goes meltdown mode for hours replying to everyone on cd
>og sirus skeletons are found in his closet
>krautBlack person hasn't replied since
Even Ashur has killed Sirus....
>Add Souls mechanics to isometric ARPGs
>It saves the genre
Miyazaki really saved gaming
WARNING this thread is being raided by /vg/ trannies.
>PoE 2 won't have:
>movement skills
It is going to have built in movement that doesn't cost mana to use. I'm sure there will still be a few gems that have a charge or some shit. But also, I don't play red so I'm not gay.
>quicksilver flasks
This actually sucks and I hope they do have an answer for this.
>crafting bench
Crafting straight up sucks in PoE. Hopefully they do include some ways to create new gear, but I am glad crafting benches are gone.
>"more damage" support gems
Use fun support gems that actually improve your gameplay. X number goes up is fricking boring.
>orb of scouring
Don't care
>orb of alteration
Don't care
>instant portal scrolls in boss arenas
This is good. I only carry around portal scrolls for this scenario, so it clears a space in my inventory. It's not like portal scrolls are hard to come by considering I have an entire stash tab full of them.
>logout macro
Is this bad? I don't understand why you'd need this unless you were a speed runner or something.
>gem vendor
Unlikely to be the whole truth.
>divination cards
Oh no, that stash tab full of divination cards that I have never completed a set for are going away? What will I do to get nothing rewards instead of just getting drops now?
>negative elemental penetration (caps at 0%)
Probably not the whole truth.
>you also need to manually refill flasks at a vendor in town. normal monsters no longer grant any flask charges. refilling in town means you'll waste 20 seconds every single time.
This takes the "stand in place spamming your aoe and flasks" meta away from bad players. This is a good change.
>chaos orb was changed to:
>removes a random mod and augments a rare item with a new random mod
Don't care
>bosses reset to full health when all players in the boss arena die
Good. If you can't stay alive for the boss you don't deserve to beat it. Increase the challenge instead of having bosses be set pieces you throw yourself against until you get through.
Can you imagine the mouthbreathing you must be doing to act like divination cards were a bad thing? Holy shit. It allowed so many items to be obtained what's the problem here?
>It allowed so many items to be obtained
Just trade for them moron.
i will not participate in the botnet of automated trade accounts simulating an auction house due to chris wilson's moronic neglect of player convenience
I'm already trading many other things. There's nothing wrong with divination cards though. I can buy headhunter or mageblood through divination cards. I can get tonne of other crafting currencies as well.
Ahh so you don't play the game but you still want to talk shit about divination cards like an idiot I get it.
First off I wasn't saying that divination cards are bad. I was pointing out that they are largely meaningless for the common player. I'm sure they're great for you acoustic jobless homosexuals who are glued to your computers any time their one-to-one aid isn't wiping your asses.
Secondly I've been playing this game for over a decade. Frick off you child.
>div cards
>meaningless for common players
have a nice day you fricking moron
Your concise and well articulated argument has truly changed my opinion. Thank you, homosexual.
I just don't give a shit about divination cards because I'm not autistic and I don't no life the game so I get frick all for divination cards. I don't understand you homosexuals who play maps for 25 hours a day grinding gear.
>why do you grind for gear in a game whose genre is focused on grinding for gear from a company called grinding gear games
moron alert
>instant portal scrolls in boss arenas
>logout macro
very nice
abused both mechanics a lot but never really wanted to
HC in D3 was unironically more fun because of how tense shit could get with no instant-logout
poe player since closed beta here. I haven't watched all the exilecon shit yet but my inference is as such:
Poe1 will continue to be the zoom zoom game with a ridiculous 0.01% meta that most people will never touch
Poe2 will be "harder" at the front end and have "slower more meaningful" encounters, but likely get easier and have players feel incredibly powerful at the endgame. I'm guessing the uber content of Poe2 will feel more like Destiny2, WoW, or whatever "don't stand in fire" "dodge this" dancing shit that is common in MMO boss fights.
Its different. Some people will like it, some won't. They know this and are planning to cater to both.
At some point in time they will probably sunset Poe1 once Poe2 gets the powercreep/bloat of a few years of leagues. Until then they will look similar but feel completely different. Some builds might feel identical in both games, but probably not.
Last thought - The beta being 1 year away and zero endgame shown really killed my hype for poe2. Its like they revealed nothing at all last week.
>I'm guessing the uber content of Poe2 will feel more like Destiny2, WoW, or whatever "don't stand in fire" "dodge this" dancing shit that is common in MMO boss fights.
that is literally uber fights in poe1 already.
>drops degen orbs in safe spots
>don't stand in slams
>charge whatever the frick
>dodge phase
>get out of x
at least we're not dead like this trash game
it's genuinely impressive this even made it beyond its launch month with how shitty it was on release
it wasn't on steam initially and most of their playerbase doesn't use Steam to login, IIRC. I don't know how accurate the information on this website is (looks like it was generated by an automated bot)
https://activeplayer.io/guild-wars-2/
>your one big chance to put D4 into its grave
>uh..yeah see you in a year for closed beta maybe
*rolls off stage*
They aren't afraid of D4. One year from now Dilator 4 will still be fricking garbage.
If they weren't afraid, they would have waited another year and released closed beta alongside exilecon
You're coping hard
you do shill other chink games though
>Make build around constantly having 7 endurance charges on
>never get damaged by anything
>kill kitava
>enter tutorial map
>get clapped by the first group of mobs
What the frick.
You were relying on the resists from the charges and then when you killed kitava you gained the resist penalty.
So in the first map you were taking about 3 times more damage than normal.
This is probably why poe2 has your resists at the top of your stats in BIG numbers.
Not quite, here are my resists currently with 7 stacks. I have about 3.2k HP
>75%
>75% with 7 end charges
>no armour
>no life regen
>no dodge/evade/block/ES/movement speed
You have endurance charges and zero defenses otherwise. One elemental weakness curse or pen monster mod rapes you.
>No armor
I have just finished killing kitava, and haven't gotten any better gear. I don't think I should be getting killed this fast considering all my gear has +armor, +armor% and +health.
Unlikely, since i am going with the marauder ascendancy point that has a chance to grant you full endurance stacks on hit, and it triggers like 90% of the time. Besides, most elite enemy hits take over 40% of my health with full charges anyway.
>with 7 stacks
you most likely got clapped before you could get your charges then kek
He also shills random shit steam bundle games lmfao
krautBlack folkisters? our response?
And what came out the filter? What, like coffee? Weed? Spring water? Weed infused coffee made with springwater and Chris Wilson's deep love for stimulants? What, goddammit? Don't leave us hanging like this! I swear if you make for the hills, I will track you down and force you to watch an entire week of Chris Wilson interviews and speeches at conventions on repeat with your eyes taped open with sewing pins until you crack and start believing you're him walking around a miraculous one and a half feet shorter than you are now. Where did the height go? You know where...
Now, you're not allowed to read the rest, as it's a spoiler, and you don't want to know the horrific cankles that will be strapped to your... uhhh.. yeah I think that's enough. Any more and it won't be a surprise. The rest of you gays, check this shit out. It's gonna be the prank of the century, I shit you not!
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Cool, huh? Imagine when he wakes up and he finds a Chris Wilson skin mask stuck to his crotch, with directions to vedic sex acts written all over his body with a sharpie. lmao. Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. His mom's gonna be in serious shock when she finds out who she was shagging thinking it was her hubby on a massive bender, kek
Aaawwkawaaaard...
Imagine writing this post
>bocchi the reddit
kys troon
I don't have to imagine. I write the things that nobody else can. I peer into void behind the curtains of reality and bring back the top shelf stuff. The words, my little love-muffin of awe, they come unbidden to my mind like cats to cream. It is a gift. A gift from the Gods themselves. Like an Adonis of Apollo I stride among my lesser peers and I look down and say:
>Big tiddy b***hes are more important than a 0.75% upgrade to your character's shoelaces.
Yes.
I like the concept of a more methodical game with lower character power level but unfortunately it will 100% not stay that way, experience shows GGG only slows the game down to open space to make thrice as fast later on
Same idea when they dropped expedition and nerfed everything only to introduce downright moronic items like mageblood and uber content the very next league
kraut should listen to his advice
Why would it not have movement skills? Way to quickly engage, disengage, switch targets or dodge enemy attacks adds great depth to combat.
you WILL roll everywhere and you WILL like it
Movement skills should not be spammable. I haven't played poe in some years, but didn't they already move away from that with cooldowns?
DEPTH
Doomers have been wrong every single time
>won't have:
>orb of scouring
>orb of alteration
for what purpose?
They are making so dropped gear matters, instead of spamming rerolls until you get what you want ie they are killing crating
That means the three reroll an item orbs are gone.
Crafting will still be possible but it wont use the pathways neuroplasticized click click ZOOMs are familiar with.
Hence the dooming. They can't envisage how chaos being annul+exalt can even be used.
why do people suddenly hate bench crafting now, isn't the problem with how moronic orbs are and not the bench itself.
makes drops irrelevant. every good poe item is metacrafted and I mean literally every single one.
yeah but poe (and i assume poe2) isn't a game like grim dawn where you can actively target farm items outside of super autistic ways like magic finding div cards. unless the game changes to that you kinda need to be able to metacraft.
The vision™ is that you don't need such powerful items so you have to make real choices with your gear.
the only thing i don't like about no movement skills is that there will be no shield charge and i really fricking like shield charge
If you like fast paced gameplay, you're not the target audience for PoE2.
>gem vendor
moron.
i don't think the "mazed" poster is wrong
i quit a year or two ago when they nerfed harvest because, verbatim, "deterministic crafting is bad for league longevity because it allows the player to achieve their character fantasy too efficiently"
in other words, you the player are having fun the wrong way and need to be trapped in the treadmill to experience MTX temptation and boost their playercount for the longest period of time possible
everyone props up POE as 'the good guys of the ARPG genre' but they're just like all the rest. you aren't a player, you're a marketable figure
Same here. Got ~10.000h+ since closed beta, dropped the game two years ago.
>3.13 Ritual league was peak fun for me, crafting in harvest and making stupidest builds work, made like 7 characters that league when I usually average 2.
>3.14 Ultimatum drops, harvest removed, played 1 character that league expecting they will give us something in return next league.
>3.15 nerf shitfest happens, stopped playing right there. Still keeping up with news but at this point probably wont even try PoE2, let alone come back to PoE1, it's simply not the game for me anymore.
Playing Grim Dawn, Last Epoch, Diablo 2 and other aRPGs to scratch the itch on occasion with a buddy, but nothing will ever top 3.13 PoE feel unless they give us private servers with patch selector.
Rolling doesn't add depth to the combat of a game, it removes it. It dumbs down the combat to the simon says "press the magical I-frame get out of jail card when the game tells you to".
you still have to move out of the way of aoe moves instead of rolling, you know the only thing that actually kills you in poes end game bosses. you are never dying to auto attacks
Movement skills in poe do not have i frames.
Only in poe1. In poe2 dodge does give iframes against non-aoe.
Oh shit that's dull. I was puzzled by roll memes itt, but now i see. Could they not think of any other way to present reactive defense? Shield block, parry, interrupts, fricking force field for mages or something.
At least tell me it's not spammable?
>At least tell me it's not spammable?
anon, I...
>At least tell me it's not spammable?
Just like in Elden ring dood
We had too much fun with poe 1 and now theyre seeking revenge. What a bunch of bullshit, but at least since we know now we can stop looking forward to it
>you also need to manually refill flasks at a vendor in town. normal monsters no longer grant any flask charges. refilling in town means you'll waste 20 seconds every single time.
I always found the flask regen on kills weird, the first thing that came to my mind when I first played PoE was "oh cool I get my flasks back when I kill stuff, but what if there isn't anything left to kill? What about bosses?" Then I got to the first boss and it spawned trash mobs which was obvious that these were only there to charge your flasks.
Same goes with doom eternal respawning fodder demons.
So it might actually be decent? Maybe you could zoom out to see more than a few feet away from you too? Fricking diablo 2 perfected the field of view and every nu game makes it worse somehow
They'll do whatever they did with PoE. Starts up slow and features will get added in. This way they can start from a clean slate, with lots of experience from the first game.
Game is already dead a year before it launches, somehow even d4 didnt manage that
You don't need to force a rotation, if you implement skills that fit different combat niches, rotations will form themselves through players' desires to make combat as efficient as possible. It's no different from any other game that implements gear which is fit for specific content or against specific monsters, in this case against specific boss phases (use charge up skill to hit stunned boss) or monsters with specific defensive mechanisms. It's a good way of making the combat more engaging in an organic way, it's gonna be pretty good.