Poe is probably one of the most restrictive games I've ever played.

Poe is probably one of the most restrictive games I've ever played.
There are skills that literally don't work and no one uses them for years, melee is just trash and 99% of the gear is just useless.
You literally just use 1 meta skill and look for 2-3 modifiers on items for 40+ hours.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're a fricking moron. Every single skill has been used to kill Ubers recently and people with a functioning brain craft their own gear instead of looking for it.

    Just uninstall and stick to diablo 4 or genshin because there is no hope for you left.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      calling this dogshit casino roulette system 'crafting' is a disgrace

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      stfu newbie, yeah no shit you can kill ubers with anything given gucci gear, but if you were really able to craft your own shit then you'd be playing ssf and you'd understand that OP is correct

      https://i.imgur.com/viSthj2.jpg

      Poe is probably one of the most restrictive games I've ever played.
      There are skills that literally don't work and no one uses them for years, melee is just trash and 99% of the gear is just useless.
      You literally just use 1 meta skill and look for 2-3 modifiers on items for 40+ hours.

      They've been lazy and stagnant for a long time. The game is rotting and the only reason the player count goes up is because they keep expanding globally, getting tons of third worlders who spend nothing but farm 10 hours a day to RMT their earnings. It's in a really sorry state compared to what it was circa 2018-2020

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It all started to go to shit when Tencent bought out the company. Chinese business culture became more and more apparent in the way they handled community feedback and criticism. Now it's just an overstuffed goose that's supposed to lay golden eggs but is too constipated to produce anything worthwhile.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          PoE is frustrating by design. The actual issues with the game are, unfortunately, the fact that Tencent owns it now, as they own many others buying them up, pushing more and more microtransations and of course, being a Chinese holding company, complicit with the Uyghur genocide. More than likely there will be little time left before the game becomes truly pay to win (people claim you need those extra stash tabs, and I agree they are QoL improvements that should be in the base game, but I've never bought anything and have been playing off an on for many years) but there was a big issue from the start with being a Diablo 2 clone in the first place, and that is the gambling aspect, the mechanical addiction of a skinner box, the gatcha -bullshit.
          These things (microtransactions for cosmetics, preying on weakness of an action rpg treasure-focused game with what, thirty currency items that don't really stack much?) is going to be ramped up to ridiculous degrees.
          Right now the game is so fricking broken hardly anyone plays shadow class due to how near impossible it is to reach level 100. You have whole classes of characters that can't do the content. You need to run frost bomb to avoid an obvious mistake where a powerful monster can't be killed and will block all progress unless you can stop their life regen. Not to mention late-game maps which can have mindlessly random modifiers that make them impossible to run.
          Honestly, I thing GGG used to be a decently fun company that were obsessive, mechanically minded, proud of their game's infamous complexity, a group of people that loved what they did, always improved the visuals and performance, and threw spaghetti at the wall with infinite brand-new league mechanics to see how players would respond. A bit like little trolls, but they had heart.
          How likely is it that any of them will stay when China demands they milk the whales and make the game impossible without spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid crap?

          >muh tencent
          Fricking obsessed
          I guess china solved overpopulation by living rent free in your head

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Tencent
          Oh. Game over I guess

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah GGG has been pretty explicit and honest over the years that some skill gems and support gems are just going to be trash, and they expect the community to sort all that stuff out.
      I don't hate that sort of mentality since they're up-front about it, but I've played enough of the game that all the holes and pitfalls are so abundant and so glaring that the product just feels bad.
      Unrelated, but also jesus christ their MTX prices for costumes that looked like dogshit years ago, but even the new ones look super awful in [current year].

      I meant literally don't work
      Either calculations are wrong or skill just refuses to work
      It's a big game with big development team and animate guardian/weapon is literally a joke
      It may just refuse to work or eat your items for no apparent reason
      I remember that one time when it was just destroying items on use

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        wait i was under the impression that was how it worked
        its not supposed to do that? LMAO

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Searing Bond.

      No, dealing 400k DPS with the beam and 5.5mil with Scorching Ray doesn't count. Searing Bond as primary.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rope neck beard redditard homosexual

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Melee is trash
    >Meanwhile BoneZone has been the #1 League starter for over a year.

    Update you shitposts moron.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all of the skills, items, and builds
    >none of the carpal tunnel cancer
    ARPGs are dead. Bullet-heaven games won.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1133 ingame
      >even fricking Grim Yawn has more players than this flavor of the week game
      lmao

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a tiny early access coffee break game, what did you expect?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Diablo but with fake difficulty and a reluctance to give the player power.
      Nah

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Poe is probably one of the most restrictive games I've ever played.
    >There are skills that literally don't work and no one uses them for years, melee is just trash and 99% of the gear is just useless.
    >You literally just use 1 meta skill and look for 2-3 modifiers on items for 40+ hours.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's even worse when you realize how terrible it is to have reached the end of the game and be so burnt out on it that you look through the minutiae of each update and pick it apart only to identify "okay, yeah, this is going to be shit because of X" and "this could be good, but I'll be assed if I can theorycraft anything with it."

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      nailed it, I've been burned out for years and they haven't made meaningful changes in a long fricking time

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Even this transfigured gems system is a pile of mediocrity where they're clearly slapping things together poorly to see what sticks with no serious thought behind it.
        And some of it is just there to troll people and say "see? We gave all these cool gems!" as they guarantee a handful will be in mediocrity forever.
        >Double Strike of Impaling
        >Loses a shitload of flat added damage against bleeding enemies for... Impale % Impale effect % and Impale spread, nobody will run it cause it's mechanically awful and boring
        >Double Strike of Momentum... loses flat added damage for... 14% More attack speed per stack, gain a stack on attack (2nd attack of double strike does not count, max of 10 stacks), LOSE ALL STACKS WHEN YOU MOVE
        The 1st one is at least usable, even if it's bad.
        The 2nd one is fricking unusable because nobody can stand still and attack for long enough to justify that over the default gem. It's actually more mechanically shit than base double strike somehow.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          they're slowly changing onslaught to this horrible momentum system, it's moronic

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, Momentum Support is irredeemable shit and nobody even uses it on the Twilight Strand.
            If they ever replace the Onslaught buff with Momentum, I can see them losing a few thousand players instantly.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Casino
    Frick off krautBlack person

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      kraut's 200% mazed
      xir cant escape it

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >MB/HH drops
    >all desire to play dies
    Every league

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That was me last league and I think I just need to find a better goal than mageblood.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah GGG has been pretty explicit and honest over the years that some skill gems and support gems are just going to be trash, and they expect the community to sort all that stuff out.
    I don't hate that sort of mentality since they're up-front about it, but I've played enough of the game that all the holes and pitfalls are so abundant and so glaring that the product just feels bad.
    Unrelated, but also jesus christ their MTX prices for costumes that looked like dogshit years ago, but even the new ones look super awful in [current year].

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    love me arc totems, simple as

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bald

    Fat

    moron

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    THE VISION
    TRUST THE PLAN
    TWO MORE EXPANSION

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post them.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >first time playing
    >enjoyed campaign, combat was janky and mid, but the itemisation systems seemed interesting
    >cleared campaign, got filtered HARD in the next difficulty
    >realised that my character was broken and without 50+ orbs of regret i had to reroll
    >orbs of regret are hard to farm and expensive to trade for
    >trading bores me, player to player trading is unfun and wildly inconvenient
    >quit, obviously, to do anything else is for shit eaters. No full skill reset option in the game is a bad design choice.

    8+ years later
    >give the game a try after getting burnt by D4 being dogshit
    >go with a guide this time after hearing soo much about it
    >pick a class that sounds fun
    >new gimmicks for the latest season seem okay
    >game still doesnt have an inbuilt item filter, spend half an hour plus figuring out the EXTREMELY janky system to install an item filter, and nothing about perusing item filters was user friendly at all.
    >spend the equivalent of 1+hour on multiple third party sites to figure out how to do basic things in a videogame, a videogame genre im extremely familiar with.
    >get to about level 20
    >combat is slightly less janky than the beta, graphics are mid
    >combat isn't fun, casting a static totem that does damage for me, is lame, the description for the character build was way more fun sounding than the actual end result
    >realise that this "beginner friendly" build requires me to have like 10+ orbs of regret at various points in the leveling process ready to go to remove sections of the skill tree
    >ask about full skill resets in the chat
    >get shit on by resident poop sockers for wanting quality of life features i wanted in the original beta of the game and quit over.
    >get discouraged and realise i havent had much fun at all since installing the game and quit again
    >ask about Poe2 having skill resets on steam forums
    >users respond with dev quotes saying they're never going to do it.

    Whelp, guess ill just wait for a sequel to Grim Dawn.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am so glad that games still exist that filter people like you this hard

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        ok junkie, i don't want to do things that arent fun, for extended periods of time, with no indication of when they will end, when playing videogames, im not a shit eater, its nothing to be proud of, you go eat shit allll you like, but you aren't better than anyone else for it.

        This isn't Dark Souls. Cope.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          unfathomable levels of seethe in this post. why are you typing the way somebody who is choking back tears speaks

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >extended periods of time
          Takes like 1 hour to level 20. 2 hours of you're new, but by then you should still be looking into how the basic game systems interact with each other

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah dont listen to the people who say you get filtered, those builds are bullshit because they assume you're gonna be set up like streamies and clan players are going to be by end of day 1
      as a solo player unless you do very specific things to get items you're essentially ssf for league start ,and so are just running the boring ass game for the first 5-10 hours
      people who have their "money strat" and early game strats are right to do so, but as someone who just wants to play the game its incredibly lopsided in your returns, theres no real "mapper" end game even though people say there is, like there is but you dont just progress by mapping. i do it every league and never finish the atlas without actively trying to which feels shitty
      that being said i wouldnt like it to be dumbed down anymore, i just wish the game itsself helped you along with pursuing a direction rather than relying on spreadsheet homosexuals explaining why 0.0037% in this thing creates a breakpoint in look quality that makes this 0.000001% drop item with this map modifier to potentially drop

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >figuring out the EXTREMELY janky system to install an item filter, and nothing about perusing item filters was user friendly at all.
      What? I just go to filterblade, add my account and upload it to my profile. I can then select it ingame. Its so moron proof I managed to figure it out while doing it for the first time on my steam deck.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      PoE2 is going into the right direction, but PoE1 is a lost cause, and everyone defending the game is a helpless addict.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm gonna give it another try this league while doing ruthless. New / double ascendency could be fun and I heard you gotta do lab for it. I love lab and still have no idea why it gets criticised so much.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a sequel to Grim Dawn.
      homie you on the moon or something? New addon early next year and we just got a huge overhaul of the game.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        the graphics for grim dawn are just dogshit, and the spells and button systems are solid, but lack the snappiness of D3+4, the UI is just dated, i have a 1440p ultrawide monitor and much of the game looks bad.

        Its just not visually appealing to me, i play games like Wow classic just fine, not a problem, but Grim Dawn 2 is what i want, maybe the upcoming Titanquest sequel will be good too.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Posts like this make me glad I game on steam deck

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the UI is just dated
          both the UI is fine and the graphics are fine. if you want actual dated UI and graphics then look at Titan Quest.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and we just got a huge overhaul of the game
        Stop saying this you homosexuals. There was no huge overhaul of anything. They added a dash evade mechanic and a mechanic that makes you take more damage to combat facetanking. That's it. Game plays almost exactly as it was before except you have to evade the sunder on celestial bosses. and even then you can still facetank if you just build for more defense.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Game still slow as molasses
        >No skill like contagion/essence drain in GD
        It's shit

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >game still doesnt have an inbuilt item filter, spend half an hour plus figuring out the EXTREMELY janky system to install an item filter, and nothing about perusing item filters was user friendly at all.
      The game literally comes with an item filter you use a dropdown to select

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >EXTREMELY janky system to install an item filter
      bro....

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Given how a new thread pops up every time one goes down, with little positive to say, it's safe to assume that these threads are created by hardcore addicts. They try to groom gullible people into this online casino that coats itself as a video game. You may think that you've seen a similar behaviour from other groups of people before, and I have to say, yes you are right. PoE addicts are just like trannies trying to lure people into their trap and groom them. Just watch how they dance around the game being free, and when called out it's not free, but you have to pay a little. And once you call that out, the price towers up to 60+ bucks. Worse if you already got suckered out some money.
    Stay away from this.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      poe is probably one of the most addictive games ever made, practically everything in the game functions like different types of slot machines except you never even get any money back. It's truly insidious

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have to agree. The dangerous part is probably that people get their brains rewired by PoE and their entire thought process revolves around the game.
        If they are not actively playing the game, they are reading the wiki, checking news, watching guides or streamers, and go immediately back to grinding pixel with funny faces on them. This game consumes a certain type of person.
        PoE will become their personality, and criticising the game, is criticising them.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    you got filtered hard
    back to dilator 3 and 4

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You must have raped your dopamine receptors beyond recognition if you say something as moronic as that. PoE's good times are long in the past, and the recent two years have completely destroyed the game of all the soul it had remaining until then. Fricking hell, you sunk cost homosexuals disgust me to no end. You've come in the last three years to PoE at best, and think that it's even remotely good in its current state. Spare your parents the embarrassment, and have a nice day right now.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Remember the time before exile con? Quite hilarious if you think about it.
      It really puts into perspective how many people were rushing here to declare GGG king and talk about how shit D4 was to the point I felt like I was on a 2nd Diablo sub only for a lot of people's expectations to be swiftly tempered. I'm sure some people are going to enjoy themselves, but perhaps next time they'll try not to put the company on a pedestal out of some weird sense of competition.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget to log into D4 and kill pronouns king "Xir/Xim" in the new #MountainDew sponsored event ya trannoid freakazoid.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's real.
          D4 is such a bad game.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            this would have pure gamer sovl if they added a bunch of actual mountain dew themed weapons

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >every other big game has had mtn dew promos
            >but d4 bad!!!
            Actual npc post

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thank god poe 2 looks nothing like poe1.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah bro, totally different from the razor gayming gear running multiple times already with ggg. It shows that you are a blind fan girl, helplessly addicted to the slot machine. A battered wife jumping to the rescue.
          What a clown world.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's why I almost always play necromancer with a skill to throw out

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poe has a lot of problems but this is not one of them. Everything works as fine and as intended. Sometimes the intended purpose is moronic true but it still work.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Everything works as fine and as intended

      [...]
      I meant literally don't work
      Either calculations are wrong or skill just refuses to work
      It's a big game with big development team and animate guardian/weapon is literally a joke
      It may just refuse to work or eat your items for no apparent reason
      I remember that one time when it was just destroying items on use

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it works
        >no it does not
        Give an actual example. There is plenty of reason for it to "not work" like the items being unidentified, level too high, you forgetting to hold the item pickup button etc.
        Also guardians are supposed to destroy the items on death.

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Playing Cyclone Slayer this league with the ascendancy that spawns phantasms on hit for permanent on kill uptime. Couple that with the new alt Cyclone + Stampede and Replica Badge of the Brotherhood I think it'll be nice
    It's melee, but it'll be nice

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cyclone Slayer this league with the ascendancy that spawns phantasms
      Thanks I hated it
      Poe has very good asthetics but every fricking build is some ugly shit like this
      At least Poe2 looks good in that respect

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cyclone just feels too good to play
        Sucks for doing actual endgame content but I can always transition into Flicker or something and go full glass cannon.

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's a free game that purely survives off of micro-transactions. how good could it ever possibly be?

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    PoE is frustrating by design. The actual issues with the game are, unfortunately, the fact that Tencent owns it now, as they own many others buying them up, pushing more and more microtransations and of course, being a Chinese holding company, complicit with the Uyghur genocide. More than likely there will be little time left before the game becomes truly pay to win (people claim you need those extra stash tabs, and I agree they are QoL improvements that should be in the base game, but I've never bought anything and have been playing off an on for many years) but there was a big issue from the start with being a Diablo 2 clone in the first place, and that is the gambling aspect, the mechanical addiction of a skinner box, the gatcha -bullshit.
    These things (microtransactions for cosmetics, preying on weakness of an action rpg treasure-focused game with what, thirty currency items that don't really stack much?) is going to be ramped up to ridiculous degrees.
    Right now the game is so fricking broken hardly anyone plays shadow class due to how near impossible it is to reach level 100. You have whole classes of characters that can't do the content. You need to run frost bomb to avoid an obvious mistake where a powerful monster can't be killed and will block all progress unless you can stop their life regen. Not to mention late-game maps which can have mindlessly random modifiers that make them impossible to run.
    Honestly, I thing GGG used to be a decently fun company that were obsessive, mechanically minded, proud of their game's infamous complexity, a group of people that loved what they did, always improved the visuals and performance, and threw spaghetti at the wall with infinite brand-new league mechanics to see how players would respond. A bit like little trolls, but they had heart.
    How likely is it that any of them will stay when China demands they milk the whales and make the game impossible without spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid crap?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pushing more and more microtransations
      They're pushing less microtransactions than ever, they haven't added new stash tabs in over a year and aren't even doing league supporter packs

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i agree with most of what you're saying, but i must say
      chris is probably one of the few people on the planet that would have kept it alive as long as he has as a part owner and lead
      him being part owner makes a massive difference but still, a head of a studio that is acquired by tencent and it not instantly nosediving from the MTX is pretty impressive ill say, though that just speaks to their genuinely impressive ability to make a game that is good enough for massive autists, but also just barely accessable to the masses that they might play here and there for a season
      they've read the room right so many times that now they get to dictate how the future will happen

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        cute knight and good post

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You need to run frost bomb to avoid an obvious mistake where a powerful monster can't be killed and will block all progress unless you can stop their life regen. Not to mention late-game maps which can have mindlessly random modifiers that make them impossible to run.
      bro why are you even writing this much about the game if you got filtered in act fricking two. just stop

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Accurate, but really what other ARPGs are there that can even compete? There's only D2R, Project D2, and PoE. That's it besides maybe Grim Dawn and Last Epoch (haven't dove into them as much)
      I agree it sucks that Tencent acquired them. I was b***hing about it all day on their forums and leddit, but I don't think it's affected their game as much as I thought it would

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >PoE is frustrating by design.
      filtered

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >filtered
    Is this non-argument ever going to be funny? People are rightfully mad at the game and company being shit.
    t. 2k hour endgame enjoyer

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      the fact that you think "endgame enjoyer" even means anything betrays your complete ignorance. why are you spending your time on this

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >funny
      ?
      its not meant to be funny, its stating a fact
      fricking moron
      >t. 2k hour endgame enjoyer
      nice larp

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >seethe
    I come here to laugh at gays like you, c'mon sweetie post all your challenges, show us all how much of your life you've wasted. Let's see exactly how cool your in-game toon is, even though we both know you don't have the charisma to turn it into a streaming gig to fellate your favourite bald moron Chris Wilson.

    Remember me mocking you every time you log into your virtual wage cage....where you don't even make any money!

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      who are you quoting

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Bible.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        theres a t word going around and shitting threads up with anything inflamatory
        the car thread thats up they tried to make it seem like car people were pedos

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tencent shills going into overdrive
    sorry homosexuals, I won't be playing your free to play slop

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will there ever be an ARPG with fun gameplay instead of just mashing your screenclear button, movement button and potion button for 40 hours?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      how would you make it fun

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        More focus on skill combos, intelligent crowd control, movement/positioning, kiting, etc
        More mechanically involved boss battles
        Remove hardcore mode as a genre staple because it just promotes boring risk averse gameplay, games like PoE are already balanced around alt+f4 anyway

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          And before some Chris Wilson dickrider replies with "but hardcore mode is needed for a functioning economy", the fact that an economy takes priority over actually fun gameplay in this genre is part of the problem

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          you say that like the meta isnt figured out within a week after data miners figure everything out and then people are compelled to play efficiently
          efficiency ruined loot based games not anything else

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >efficiency ruined loot based games not anything else
            And you think the fact that if you aren't the most efficient possible you will die and lose all of your progress has nothing to do with that?
            There isn't even anything inherently wrong with people treating the loot as a puzzle and wanting to find strong builds, otherwise there's not much point in having loot, the problem is that the entire structure of the genre discourages experimentation and individual discovery

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              where did i talk about hardcore at all in my post
              fricking moron

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't talk about muh meta in my original post either, but fact is that people would be way more willing to try non meta setups if they weren't penalized as hard for doing so

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you say that like the meta isnt figured out within a week after data miners
            you speak like someone who has no idea what they are talking about
            you dont play this game

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          please no, PoE2 is already going the path of dodge button and I want to see less of that

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          And before some Chris Wilson dickrider replies with "but hardcore mode is needed for a functioning economy", the fact that an economy takes priority over actually fun gameplay in this genre is part of the problem

          >I want this genre to turn into something completely different
          ARPGs are about the power fantasy, build creation and playing the economy, if you don't like those parts just play something else

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you're describing poe 2 and it's going to crash and burn, people just don't play arpgs for tactical gameplay. It's a genre where you turn your brain off and watch particle effects

            I never said I wanted them to stop making games like that even if they're not to my taste, I just want some developer to use the advantages of the camera and control setup of the genre for something different.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why bother, slot machine ARPGs are way more fun
              Look at how Vampire Survivors exploded in popularity for having all of the addictive slot machine parts with none of the gameplay, that's what people want

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bullet Heaven's perfected the ideal endgame ARPG build: the autobomber

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't understand why vampire survivors gets compared to ARPGs, it looks nothing alike except I guess it's a fantasy game with top-down camera.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Build creation with considerable randomness element
                Permadeath
                Large enemy counts
                Power fantasy with particles everywhere

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >As I read your list, I realized I had none of them.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          you're describing poe 2 and it's going to crash and burn, people just don't play arpgs for tactical gameplay. It's a genre where you turn your brain off and watch particle effects

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's a genre where you turn your brain off and watch particle effects
            That's every genre now

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >people just don't play arpgs for tactical gameplay.
            If its gonna be halfway between elden ring and poe1 it'll be my dream game

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are definitely correct, as arpgs should go down the twin stick shooter route again. But homosexuals here and everywhere are frightened that they can't out grind the challenge anymore. I'm glad POE2 goes down that route.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You presumably could grind out the challenge, even if they make the combat more skill-based. See something like Nioh, which has a really deep and difficult combat system that you barely have to engage with if you get a strong enough build.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Kinda depends, Nioh 1 that was definitely the case but the game also threw so much bullshit at you at endgame that playing the game "normally" wasn't even fun anymore. Nioh 2 endgame is a lot harder to break and even the strongest builds still have to actually play the game.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >skill combos
          have a nice day

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Don't worry brainlet. You only need to watch a couple of tutorials from your favourite streamer man to understand it. If anything fails, you can still live through their achievements and call it a day.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >More focus on skill combos, intelligent crowd control, movement/positioning, kiting, etc
          you dont like arpgs
          go play something else

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you can find it go try throne of darkness

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just want Grim Dawn to be less of a Yawn

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    still more viable skills than Grim Yawn
    Still waaay more than D4
    seethe + cope + L + sneed

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    niGGGer dead game

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >play through campaign, have fun
    >wow that was the best diablo like arpg i have ever played!
    >stop playing because endgame in these games is for mentally ill skinner box gays

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      good choice honestly
      the whole "haha we're nerfing your resistances by 60% so you're forced to build around it" is garbage design and always was

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >play through campaign, have fun
      I don't believe you, the campaign sucked arse

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >play through campaign, have fun
        statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

        >poe
        >good campaign
        lol
        lmao

        I played the old berserker on hardcore and did it all blind. the boss fights were intense. also campaigns are more fun if you dont do them 20+ times as a means to an endgame.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the campaign sucked arse
        The lore of the campaign is still insanely cool. I also like how campaign I can go from a to b looking for an exit and go for multiple areas in a row.

        PoE maps in endgame are entirely too small for my liking. Something like an expedition mode would be cool where you get rewarded the more areas in a row you clear

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          kinda sounds like you want delve which is pretty viable as an endgame alternative to mapping

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Delve to my understanding is all caves. I don't wanna look at brown and dark shit all day. Also doesn't delve have the weird mechanic where you can't stay too far from the light lest the monsters in the dark eat you?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >play through campaign, have fun
        statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

        >poe
        >good campaign
        lol
        lmao

        >kill kitava
        >empty out stash
        >roll up new character
        Time to try out a different build with a fresh start.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >play through campaign, have fun
      statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >poe
      >good campaign
      lol
      lmao

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    whats a good league starter this league? got a new pc and gonna bench it on the most grapically demanding game i know - path of exile

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      niGGGer build

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    MY GAME

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No diamonds at the end, only worthless rocks.
      Quite accurate depiction

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i love how poe hard filters dogshit pc builds

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I recently tried this game coming from D2, enjoyed it for a while until I learned that picking up basically any item is a waste of time and its all about crafting. In D2 lots of yellow items are worth identifying even up to the highest levels. What kind of dogshit arpg drops loot that isn't even worth picking up? Just fricking lol, total dogshit.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's a meme from people who engage with the game purely by watching streamers, picking up high level rares can absolutely be worth it if you get a couple of t1 mods. even more so now that synthesized mods drop

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        note: you will not get these t1 mods, not without go immediately buy a lottery ticket tier of luck

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          this is what I'm talking about, anybody who actually plays the game knows that t1 mods aren't particularly rare to find

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            hoo boy, t1 thorns and t1 light radius, dogshit everything else, and Harvest is still a shadow of its former self in case you actually find something with good mods

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              you're right bro it's impossible to get good items, I'm afraid the only option here is suicide

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that's a meme from people who engage with the game purely by watching streamers

        Black person shut the frick up, I never watched any streamer play this and I inevitable had to look up why I have to sift through 500 yellow items an hour only for a majority of them to be completely worthless

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >high level

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine a slot machine, where every pull of the level throws money at you but actually most of the earnings are fake and its on you to painstakingly find out which coins are actually real

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >imagine a video game in the arpg genre
              okay what now

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you have to be high level for loot to be worth picking up

            My original point still stands. PoE is ass

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              high level items you moron

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                higher level items do not necessarily have higher tier rolls

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >picking up high level rares
        absolute poverty behaviour

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Trying to revive your almost 4 hour old post
          Just stop.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            meds

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Trust chris wilson's vision

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are way too obsessed with the economy. They're terrified of people actually being able to achieve goals. GGG believes that people will quit immediately if they ever achieve their goals, and thus they won't participate in the economy any more.

    They're afraid of people being able to easily acquire items because it will destroy their vision of PoE as this weird fricking economy simulator where you have to literally play it like it's a job and earn chaos/hour in order to be allowed to do fun things.

    They would solve almost every problem by just shooting anybody in their office that says the word 'economy' in the head immediately before they can finish their thought.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      there'd be no-one left, they're irredeemable

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      well said

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Poe is probably one of the most restrictive games I've ever played
    anon do you really think anyone doesn't know you are baiting?

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poop of Excrement

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You literally just use 1 meta skill and look for 2-3 modifiers on items for 40+ hours.
    Not wrong. The thing I hate the most about PoE is how it's convinced an entire audiences the game is so "hardcore" when it's just an insanely shallow ARPG. I'll admit, sometimes the grind can be addictive, and some of the newer cosmetics look really cool. But with a little over 1,000 hours, it's just an insanely mediocre APRG compared to the rest. But I usually come back to see what they change every other league.

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anybody know of an actual roleplay build that also gets through ubers?
    I really don't like how everything needs to be some version of minmaxed coc eye cancer with no consistency of a concept of a character your building up.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick is a roleplay build?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        A build that tries to emulate a concept of a character, you know, the RP part in action RPG and all.
        For example look at the picture of characters in ascendancy portraits and try to match what skills/items they might be using. Like the assassin spec has glowing blue eyes and looks like he's wielding a two hander so maybe some flicker strike build with something related to the eyes, maybe energy blade I dunno.

        I assume you mean any build that isn't too unconventional, so try Boneshatter Jugg, Zerker also works if you want to be squishier but easier to start.

        I guess that makes sense, but doesn't sound too cool honestly.

        any build is an rp build with enough matching cosmetics

        :/

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the assassin
          Is wielding a 1-h sword and throwing knives. So some kind of EK Cyclone thing.
          I get what you mean now and sadly, PoE1 just isn't that. PoE2 however, looks like it might.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah seems like it, but I don't wanna give up I'm gonna keep trying till I pull something off, just gotta get some more knowledge and better feel of the game under my belt.
            I think the new chieftain ascendancy is noob friendly enough to mess around with.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >some more knowledge and better feel of the game under my belt
              Yeah, that's why people suggest Boneshatter Jugg/Slayer/Zerker.
              It's borderline braindead gameplay and relatively simple gearing.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume you mean any build that isn't too unconventional, so try Boneshatter Jugg, Zerker also works if you want to be squishier but easier to start.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      any build is an rp build with enough matching cosmetics

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any kind of necromancer. You just get more and stronger skellies.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >concept of a character your building up
      This is dead mainly because they made it too steep and RNG-locked.
      >Most upgrades are either:
      >Common Uniques you get super early on
      >Gear rolls, which are a fricking nightmare to replace
      >Sockets, which are a fricking nightmare to replace
      >Super fricking rare Uniques that you build needs to be able to function without, likely you'll need to do a full build transition at some point to incorporate these, removing the entire concept of building up your character, since you gotta tear it down to respec for these items

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which way, PoE man?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      there aren't any men that play PoE. it's all homosexuals, morons and midgets

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alright, I'm reinstalling

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    PoE isn't even remotely restrictive, and that's the problem. There's no balance between the skills, some beat the game's ass in with little investment and others can barely get through act 10 without some serious optimizing.
    Melee is a huge meme though I agree.

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >poe thread on Ganker
    >it's a bunch of filtered morons mad that they don't understand the game so they MUST use streamer meta builds
    The average skill(and IQ) level on this website is lower than even reddit

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      speak for yourself, i have 150 IQ and will be playing a homebrew Cleave of Rage build this league.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm making a smite slayer again, had massive fun with it last leage
        Especially since they added rakiata's dance to core drop pool

  41. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >He's proud of grinding temporary pixels in the digital coal mine day in an out without pay

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >joins a hobby discussion
      >WTF you guys are doing this for free?
      >you're saying you're doing this for FUN?
      What kind of a fricking corporat are you
      do you expect to be paid for breathing too?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gankeredditor discovers video games for the first time

  42. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a "hobby"

  43. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i'm not here to have fun

  44. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    WHAT TOTEM BUILD SHOULD I DO

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      divine ire

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      New crackling lance

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arc

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      join the meme beam squad
      become unstoppable

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      flameblast

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Totems are going to have a lot of trouble surviving next League between Ultimatum and the main mechanic.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >doing Ultimatum
        bait, BFR went too baldo vision by removing the loot drops. it's absolutely not worth doing 90s of circles when you could just do another entire map

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      conc path
      oh wait
      frick you neon

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy flame totem

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      RF

  45. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You used to be able to play whatever you wanted but they stopped that because it resulted in less player "engagement" per hour since you could just beat the game on a 5link with out forced trading or forced grinding for .0002% drop items.

    The game hasn't had a meaningful update in like 3 years, melee is still the worst in any modern game for example since they don't know how to fix it.

  46. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >/poeg/ leaking onto Ganker again

  47. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care, still playing boneshatter.

  48. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >haha, this is not an online casino. You simply have to beat this aggressive rng where you roll more than twenty times an item, and it still turns out shit.

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