Please stop letting Ohmori direct Pokemon games
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Does Masuda have some grudge against Kawachimaru or something and that's why we didn't get Platinum content in BDSP?
He just hates the third versions that mog his work. If we get Unova remakes, at best we'll get the ability to explore some areas introduced in B2W2, and that assumes they won't pull a BDSP and make an official bootleg of an official Pokemon game.
>If we get Unova remakes, at best we'll get the ability to explore some areas introduced in B2W2
based, those Versions were trash
His problem isn't that he can't make good games, he just doesn't have the time to make them. ORAS are great and all of his other games while mediocre had potential to be great as well.
ORAS sucked
Emerald is better bro...
nta but i think both games are good in their own right
i mean i think his games have a lot of shit in them but in general i think they could be decent games if they were finished
SwSh would need an overhaul larger than any 3rd version before to properly scrape all the shit off of them
>ORASS are great.
>he just doesn't have the time to make them
Game Freak is the one who decides when the games release.
No TPC is who decides because they have to plan it all together with merch and anime series.
Anon, TPC jump to Nintendo and Game Freak's word. When GF had to delay DP, TPC HAD to scramble to make a burner season cartoon to spin out time (battle frontier arc, remember?). Nintendo and Game Freak arrange the release dates (because Game Freak pokémon games drives Nintendo console sales to the point they now release games in the series habitually every christmas holiday lead-in to sell consoles to kids and kids on the series), so TPC work to that.
They're owned by Nintendo and Game Freak, I don't understand why you moron c**ts think that means they dictate how everything goes. Why it all works as it does is because kids are more important to everyone involved than moron adults who think they deserve the kiddy brand to grow up for them.
>he just doesn't have the time to make them
In the time Ohmori needs to make a good game, pretty much every other director listed could make a better one.
They all went out on a banger other than Masuda, so it looks like
>develop good Pokemon game
>get fired
they really hate the stakes getting raised instead of just coasting on brand name
Masuda's end was basically X & Y, after that he gave Ohmori the keys to the main games and really only comes back when they need someone to direct a basic remake.
The directors with very few games don't get fired, they are usually in charge of other departments.
Morimoto-sama, I kneel...
>Tajiri
Hasn't done shit since Gen 2, just sits on his ass as CEO
>Masuda
Kicked upstairs to "Chief Creative Fellow" at The Pokemon Company, doesn't even work at GF anymore
>The rest
Never directed anything original, just remakes and third versions of other director's work
Iwao-sama needs to come back, we need more Arceus...
Ohmori is the guy who wants your adventure to be an institutionalized "challenge" with rules, fellow competitors, and senior people evaluating you. You are not on your own, it's not "your very own pokémon adventure" but an annual activity shared with many others. You are basically a kid doing extra curricular activities. The evil teams aren't evil, just marginalized people rebeling against the rules of the institution. He needs an actual villain at the end so he resorts to plot twists in some respectable character.
Regardless of quality of the games which depend on many factors, Ohmori must be an extremely unfun person inside based on his vision of adventure alone.
However I'm not sure if it's worse or better than Masuda's over the top stories about saving the world from the hand of lunatic villains. But I wish we could go back to the lone wolf role of the fist two gens, with no friends, fellows, no planet or institution to save, just you against the world.
i always hated how much Sun & Moon feel like a fricking guided tour rather than an adventure. SwSh & SV are better than that but not by that much.
>wealthy as frick company
>millions of yen spent on "artistic inspiration" is basically the team traveling to touristic countries for a few weeks
>likely first class flight, 5 stars hotel
>paid guided tours like every monolingual Asian boomer visiting the west
>the result is a game filled with monuments, touristic routes, big hotels, tourism services, local food and some cliches about the country
>"can you pass the challenge of visiting every place in the list of nice locations while you follow the rules?"
Paldea being kind of open world made it more passable at least. But I can't ignore the feeling of corporate Japanese boomer these games still have.
the only thing that can revive the spirit of a TRVE pokemon adventure is a Wild West pokemon game.
>Legends Kyurem is a game set around Unova's origin with the Original Dragon as a Legends game for BW2 (with past Nate/Rosa), part of Gen X
>another smaller Legends game (Legends Victini) set during the equivalent of the Wild West (with past Hilbert/Hilda), released as part of Gen IX instead of B/W remakes the year before gen X comes out (2025, 2026 respectively)
I'd be down.
>You are not on your own, it's not "your very own pokémon adventure" but an annual activity shared with many others. You are basically a kid doing extra curricular activities.
kind of like the first games where you get a starter from a professor who asks you to fill an encyclopedia ?
there's a big difference between the game giving you context for your adventure and then letting you do it yourself and having a bunch of npcs constantly nagging you throughout the entire "adventure."
>NPCs constantly nagging you throughout your adventure
yeah BW are bad, i agree
Happens about as much as in past games and significantly less compared to XY and everything afterwards
Difference between BW and Ohmori games is that BW its very Masuda in terms of story meaning that your adventure is about beating an Evil Team trying to frick the world up but we know you aren't being honest Discord troony.
>Taijiri
>directing anything beyond the first set of games
opinion discarded. Catch up to the current fan discourse, OP. You don’t know shit if you think Taijiri was responsible for Gold/ Silver
Yeah I agree. Tajiri and Morimoto are the only ones that made masterpieces. Crystal and HGSS probably being the weakest games out of the games those two directed combined, but they were still very good games. RBY, GS, and Emerald are masterpieces though.
Masuda has a bunch of the shittiest games in the series under his belt, but BW and RS are good and the gen 1 remakes are ok. DP was pretty shit to be released in the state it was in. He should kill himself for X and Y, LGPE, and BDSP, though. Frick everything else he directed, even if some of the games were good, those last few games are so bad that he should just die.
Dunno who Kawachimaru or Unno are, but Platinum turned DP from shit into a good game so Kawachimaru is a success. I'm playing through BW2 for the first time now, so I didn't beat it yet and I'm not very far, but it seems good, so good job to Unno on those.
Ohmori has directed mostly fricking shit and he should kill himself for SV.
Iwao apparently fricked up the Ultra games, I didn't play through them myself yet so I can't really say, but Legends Arceus seems good so far from what I've played so good job to him on that one.
so yeah Ohmori is the only one that hasn't directed a single good game, except possibly Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire because I haven't played through that one yet either. SM and SwSh were like an on rails episode of Care Bears. There were parts of those games where you could tell it could have been good, but they're still way too moronic and gay overall. I'm sure he made them gayer and more moronic on purpose to try to please Masuda since he loves making the gayest most fricktarded games ever after BW, like he lost his fricking mind or something. But yeah those 2 should kill themselves.
>Emerald
>Masterpiece
It's easily the shittiest 3rd version.
na
>RS are good [...] DP was pretty shit to be released in the state it was in
Please stop listening to poketuber opinions and actually play the games
3 guys in the middle are based
undeniable truth
Truth
>makes your region cold
Kawachimaru and Iwao are the only good directors
you're not interesting for saying Morimoto isn't good
Whyd Tajiri quit anyways
Hes still at Game Freak making projects, if I had to guess, he got promoted to the point where he isn't directly involved with games much anymore.
Tajiri had the basic vision of Pokemon but Masuda since Gen1 was the guy who made it possible.
Tajiri has no coding or dev experience so he gave full reigns to Masuda. Ohmori was the map planner but story wise all his games are like someone else said "tour guides".
Morimoto is the battle designer and I think he enjoy doing that over being director.
As for the rest only Iwao still does shit, he was also responsible for SwSh DLC's.
>if I had to guess, he got promoted to the point where he isn't directly involved with games much anymore
He was always the president of the company, he just stopped being a game director on top of that. His disappearance from public life is probably a much more boring story of him deciding to focus on management as the company grew bigger than half a dozen guys in an apartment.
Seriously what is Tajiri even doing? He never talks to anybody except for that one GCCX episode. Since GSC I have imagined him just sitting inside and living the dream of playing games all day. Does he play new junk, or stick with older stuff? I suspect he hates nuPokemon as a video game, but doesn't care because it rakes in cash and he was once a starving designer. I really wonder what he does for fun now.
Imagine if Tajiri was handed the reigns on a new game.
I can't help but wonder what an original game by Morimoto would be like.
Dude obviously just wants to rake in the cash and stay out of the spotlight. We can wonder what a modern game directed by him would be like, but truthfully he probably doesn't know much about modern development practices.
>he probably doesn't know much about modern development practices
You could say that about all of GameFreak
>I can't help but wonder what an original game by Morimoto would be like.
Considering he's done battle design and balance since Gen 4, and pvp is the only part of the game that's consistently still improving, I'd rather not risk taking away the last person who still makes Pokemon good.
Ohmori's entire MO is taking the worst aspects of JRPGs and shoving them into Pokemon.
That way when he makes another railroadfest drones can defend it with "b-but Final Fantasy did it too!"
oras and sumo are good, though. (Aside from the hour-long forced tutorial)
Ohmori hasn't directed a single good game and his first partner project was XY
Also I don't think people give Masuda enough credit. He absolutely made shitty games later on, but he is the reason the series is even still around or perhaps that it even exists at all.
When they lost a shitload of data during gen 1 and programmers walked out he took up the mantle himself despite only knowing how to program music at that point. He also had the task of keeping the series going when pokemania was beginning to dwindle which would be big shoes for anyone.
He laid the groundwork for third versions like Emerald and B2W2, but Ohmori only made shitty games which weren't even redeemed by their DLCs.
Masuda's games sold like shit compared to Ohmori and Tajiri.
Ohmori is going nowhere all of his games rack up money even Oras is the best sold remake.
Masuda is really a victim of having his last works be disappointments that taint his reputation. More than just his work as a director, he also did amazing work as a composer. It's honestly staggering how much music even gen I has compared to virtually every other Game Boy game. I was playing the Zelda Oracle games recently and it struck me that there's barely any variety in music. There's the overworld theme, the town theme, the house theme, the dungeon theme, the boss theme, and those are it for 95% of the game. On top of that most of them are copy pasted from Link's Awakening. Compare that with Pokémon in how there were multiple overworld themes, multiple town themes, multiple battle themes, etc. Even for GSC they remixed the Kanto themes instead of lazily copy pasting them.
>He laid the groundwork for third versions like Emerald and B2W2
This isn't being fair. Ruby and Sapphire were great games on their own. Yes Emerald was better and there's not much reason to play RS over it, but that doesn't negate them being great games on their own rights. I hate when people disparage the original just because the follow up is better. PMDgays spent years saying Explorers were better than Rescue Team, which is arguably true but Rescue Team were fricking amazing and didn't deserve to be sidelined like that.
based ohmori, directed the best games in the series
is this another thread where morons who don't know how game development works thinks taking an already finished game and taking a year to add a battle facility to it makes you a good director?
>Iwao directed the two most challenging and fun games of the franchise
Basado
Morimoto and Takao Unno are the most ambitious caring people that I have seen direct a game. The fact that they cramed so much content into their games and actually did shit for the fans. It's honestly amazing after watching didyougaming's video on HGSS.
>Morimoto and Takao Unno are the most ambitious caring people that I have seen direct a game
yeah bro so amibitious
>Nitpicks the littlest of shit via collage homosexualry
>Makes the most moronic discord bait humanly possible.
The fact that Kalosperms have had 18th birthdays fricking terrify me.
>bro this director is so ambitious he put so much effort for the fans
>wait no you’re not supposed to nitpick these lazy things that fans will notice
You can’t have it both ways, homosexual.
You're literally complaining over a non issue over unimportant NPCs that literally do not matter in the slightest.
>And yet they're still responsible for making a youngster in HGSS extremely iconic.
If it breaks my immersion that the game is a sequel and instead reveals it to be a lazy copy/pasted rehash then it is an issue that matters in the slightest.
>And yet they're still responsible for making a youngster in HGSS extremely iconic.
The same youngster that was in the original games? Fricking moron.
Still better than all other previous rehashes that were no where near the scope of B2W2.
but yeah sure I'll happily believe you if you think that the DIRECTOR of the games is the one in charge of choosing what dialogue literal who NPCs woould have.
>Still better than all other previous rehashes that were no where near the scope of B2W2
Emerald is better than BW2 simply for adding real battle facilities instead of casualized nostalgia pandering garbage.
>FORCE YOURSELF TO ENJOY THIS LOW QUALITY SLOP!!!
Nah.
And you’re right, Masuda is the best director of all time because he made the Hex Maniac iconic.
Oh wow Kalosperm, I didn't no you had your older HoenBlack person sibling supervising you. How adorable.
>no where near the scope of B2W2
How do I play the lottery in Bw2???
>My autism and make believe OCD won't let me enjoy the games. OMG #MENTALILLNESS
Unironically have a nice day
>The same youngster that was in the original games? Fricking moron.
In GSC that youngster was somewhat iconic, but the phonecalls about the top percentage rattata will always get me.
i remember when kalos came out, but the kids who had that as their first games being 18 sounds like fiction. i'm not ready to be a hag yet...
Kids start their first Pokemon games typically around the age of 6-10 years old. The fact that it's been over a decade since X and Y means some of these little shits can legally vote.
Ah, I see Discord woke up. 'Twas fun while it lasted.
I don’t hate on gen 5 but it’s weird that they reused dialogue like that. GSC didn’t do that
GSC are much higher effort games than all of gen 5
Gen 5 also reused every single returning pokemon and trainer sprite from gen 4, for example in the PWT only the Hoenn trainers have new sprites, others are reused from Platinum/HGSS
I don’t get why they did that over just taking more time to fully polish the games because I think this stuff kind of tarnishes what are otherwise great games.
DP created new sprites for every single pokemon and had a very long development cycle but it paid off, it even helped them making the dex iconic by teasing multiple mons over the years (Munchlax, Weavile, Lucario etc). Meanwhile gen 5 only had Zoroark and it was only teased in one movie, gen 4 was teased over 3 movies and even gen 3 spinoff games like PMD, rangers, XD etc
It’s nowhere near as bad as the yearly releases we have now but still, gen 5 games could have used more dev time
If you look at the trainer sprites in the PWT they're all updated to move differently and many end in different poses. it's not just copy and pasting.
As for movies, gen 5 had movies for victini keldeo and genesect, as well as meloetta being the fosuc of the anime for a period of time. "They just didn't shill Zoroark correctly in the game" isn't a symptom of low dev time, it's just you disagreeing with how they distributed it. it's still pretty popular and I never understood why people consider that it "failed".
>If you look at the trainer sprites in the PWT they're all updated to move differently and many end in different poses
Which ones? I don't see it.
Those middle three + Iwao need to stage a fricking coupe at this point.
What happened to Masuda after BW?
He got jokerfied because normalgays hated that they couldn't use Pikachu and CHARIZARD during the main story.
>All of the directors responsible for the best games in the series only have one or two gens/games under their belt
This can't be a coincidence
>interviews prove that hgss was the only real passion project by gf since gs
Morimoto was so good they banned him from making a game ever again.
Another thread ruined by Discord Trannies. Seriously when will Jannies start banning them?
go to reddit if you want a mindless gen 5 wiener sucking circlejerk
>jannies banning people who are guaranteed to drive up site traffic and get them clicks for ad revenue
First day on the internet?
Sun and Moon were good though.
they were good your first time around. GF made a horrible decision releasing USUM a year later because it got everyone to replay Alola and realize what a slog it is to play.
Ohmori's games all have building blocks to be something really good, and Alola is probably the best example of this because he nails so much.
>The aesthetic of the region is excellent
>The Ultra Beasts/Ultra Space while fleshed out more in USUM was still cool in SM
>The Aether foundation was awesome and an entire manmade wildlife reserve island in a region with so much emphasis on tradition and wilderness is great
>Team Skull was very refreshing until he decided to repeat the concept in future games but not as good
>Lillie, Gladion, and Lusamine's story is great
>Regional variants were cool to see even if nowadays they've been working on making them confusing and annoying
>Kukui as a twist champion was cool
But he just HAD to make the games have pacing slower than molasses so nobody wants to go back to these otherwise good games.
sounds like a you problem. i played the game at least three times in addition to an Ultra playthrough
Some of you gays need to understand that just because you can successfully add things to a game doesn’t mean you can make a good game from scratch. Most of these directors handle a certain part of the games design and only really take the director role because someones got to, Unno & Iwao are the only examples of the B team doing more than just adding bells and whistles to what Masuda/Ohmori created, and with mixed results.
they can't do much worse than how it's going now surely
>stop him when he's getting better at it
huh???