Doesn't the game require the ROMs for Gens 3-5? That should mean they're liable to getting C&D in moments
It requires the roms but they do not provide them, and they only accept money in the form of donations if I remember correctly. It's been around for 11 years so I don't think it's going to go anywhere soon, unfortunately.
Yes, it's unfortunate that this hollow shell of what it once was 10 years ago is still running. It's funny that you shills keep coming to this board, have you gotten tired of playing with chinks and russians? It's a shame that the cuck staff bent the knee not too long after this.
pokemmo is a vastly superior product to the gen 1 to 5 games. only someone completely ignorant of it would claim otherwise.
>provide superior product for free >sois come out of the woodwork to bootlick g*mefreak >"NOOO YOU HAVE TO BUY TWO+ CARTRIDGES PER GENERATION WITH DEAD MULTIPLAYER NO DIFFICULTY NO TRADING BETWEEN CERTAIN TITLES NO QOL NO CONSISTENT MECHANICS AND MOLASSES SPEED GAMEPLAY"
superior in what ways? >butched audio >butched cutscenes >butched graphics >worsened game mechanics >absent game mechanics >NO LEGENDARIES >NO HIDDEN ABILITIES >CHANGED EFFECTS OF MOVES/ABILITIES >CHANGED WHAT MOVES A POKEMON CAN LEARN
You must be still in the stage of denial to like this shit, just because modern pokemon games are dogwater it doesn't mean this... thing... is any good
There are hidden abilities and they are easier to get than in the base games. Also when it comes to learnsets they just combined them from all games, that's superior. But saying there are no hidden abilities already betrays you don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know why people feel such a strong urge to make up lies to attack pokemmo with. It's not even trolling style lies, it's just being wrong and usually people are afraid of being wrong, but they don't bat an eye at being wrong over this specific game.
I mean go ahead and keep switching between dead carts if you want. >changed effects of moves/abilities
it's fine when gamefreak does this every gen I guess. same applies to other things like splitting hairs over mechanics, there are no lures in the base game for example.
it's true you can't own all legendaries, I'm guessing that's related to comp, but the system in place is pretty fun anyway. they are rare encounters at specific locations, and if you defeat them they "join" you temporarily, and other players can force fights on you to "steal" them. it's for pokedex completionism and the pvp minigame, you don't even need them to have a completed natdex for accessing certain endgame content.
Also did they introduce apricorn balls with the release of Johto?
That is one of the things i disliked about pokemmo, other was not keeping legends and not having HAs but i see they are adding them
no, I have no balltism especially when I have 5 master balls. I wasn't looking for a raikou, I was farming smeargle at the time. I don't know the rarity but I heard it was really high and didn't want to get roar'd so I master balled. dunno what else I'd use them on other than maybe an exploding shiny.
yes pokemmo has apricorn balls and HAs.
this "thing" is an overall superior experience to current nintendo goyslop.
Have an open mind, give it a try. I promise if you genuinely enjoy the original 5 region games you will have a good time, and it will actually be moderately challenging.
Also, they added HAs and (some) Legendaries are in game, just not permanently capturable.
yes, google it and you'll see conversations talking about it for well over a decade now. the mmo does not host or supply anything related to the pokemon games at all, so they are completely immune to cease and desist orders
I blame gamefreak for not supplying a superior product. Steam beat piracy by being a superior option in many ways. Gamefreak refuses to give us a better option for their early games than fans, so frick em.
Wrong, I just searched it up, there have been no lawsuits. Apparently there are rumors that it survived a c&d a while ago but I don't know the truth about that.
The reason they get away with it is because technically pokemmo is a mod over the game roms.
Still faster than just about any realistic situation in a cartridge, where unlike pokemmo there is basically no reason to breed strong pokemon, especially because multiplayer is dead.
what're you talking about moron, everyone and their mother had 5iv dittos from some type of giveaway back in gen 5 on this board, meant it took only like 30 minutes to get a standard 5iv egg of a gendered mon
nobody would've bothered playing online if they had to drag their balls through the valley of broken glass that's pokeMMO's kneecapped system
if you're into the whole MMO economy thing i can see some appeal, but it's a different audience.
>more lies
No, a majority or even anything more than a small fraction of players have piles of perfect IV ditto, and even if they did they would be trapped on an old cart with very little actual incentive to breed good mons.
If you want to play an inferior product because you lost an internet argument and you're stubborn, fine. The only one who will hurt is you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
and what i'm saying is that if game freak introduced anywhere near the breeding handicaps that pokeMMO shoehorned in, nobody would bother
every generation game freak makes it easier, mmo devs with a cash shop that can ease the grind make it harder for some myserious reason
7 months ago
Anonymous
Most people don't bother IV breeding in vanilla pokemon, because there is little to no incentive. >disingenuous arguments again
The only thing in pokemmo related to the cash shop that "eases the grind" related to breeding is donor status, which provides a 10% reduction to egg times that are already way faster than cartridge games. You have to lie over and over and over, it's sad.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Nearly everyone had a perfect IV ditto if they played online. Stop being ignorant.
why? I installed this game 3 days ago and just beaten my first top 4 in johto.
trainers and gym leaders are way harder and I actually had to come up with some strategies to beat them. the 2nd gym leader beat my ass because I picked the plant starter so I used the spike move that geodude learns to make use of his U-turn spam.
having most trade evolutions available is nice too.
Does the game still destroy my Pokemon when I breed them and make learning moves prohibitively expensive to force you to grind arbitrary materials? If so, not interested. I'm already casual enough with those mechanics, making them even more awful than base RS is not something I'm interested in. I'm sure there's some neat stuff in there, hopefully somebody leaks the source and we can make a private server that's not fricking miserable for "economy" reasons.
The fact that you can get more than one earthquake tm makes it superior to the carts in the first place, regardless of whether or not you have to spend 3 minutes rebattling a few trainers in unova to afford to buy one.
Okay, but the game has Unova in it, which had infinite use TMs anyway? You're saying you want the game to be worse than a game that's already in the game? Maybe I'm just not grind-minded enough for this shit. I guess enjoy grinding items for whatever move tutors are in the game now I dunno.
The only realistic thing that is effectively grindier in pokemmo than the base games is shiny hunting, and even then an argument could be made for any horde pokemon being easier to find shiny. Everything else is about the same or much faster, especially after gaining some knowledge. Sweet scent + earthquake/surf/etc. is insanely fast leveling compared to the base game for example,, but a new player might not realize that immediately.
It was a thing on /vp/ about 4 or 5 years ago for a couple of months
There were even 2 guilds but once people beat every region the novelty wore off and everyone stopped playing
Nowadays you often get the occassional shill thread(often after major updates), or someone new discovering the game but the thread dies with fewer than 10 posts, or ends up in shitflinging about breeding, as you can see
What exactly would I get out of this compared to the mainline games? They took out "certain" Pokemon from availability and made breeding very annoying.
Seamless item/pokemon pool between five regions, much better AI, more challenging level curve/movesets, actual realistic reasons to breed in the first place, massive piles of QoL in all kinds of areas, actual living multiplayer, in game economy adding lots of gameplay elements that don't exist on cartridge, consistent mechanics, near-sandbox level learnsets and move access, not limited to specific mons on specific games, no exclusives. Off the top of my head.
My main gripe with it is its too easy to buy money. I've also heard of a couple of whacko nerfs, like wonder guard.
If you're only interested in meta pvp, there is no reason to play pokemmo. It's a vastly superior version of the gen 1-5 games if you like playing pokemon games. But if you're only into fights with other players and nothing else then do showdown.
You really should just try it. I probably sound like a shill, but I've been playing on and off for the last year and I'm just someone who is amazed at how good of a pokemon experience it is compared to the base games, and I don't like seeing people here who haven't even played it shit on it with made up stuff. I love playing pokemon and pokemmo is by far the best gens 1-5 experience for a mountain of reasons. Even little mechanics like lures add so much fun gameplay for someone with my tastes.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>breeding consumes the parents
That alone is enough for me to not bother. >devs made personal balance decisions like nerfing moves and move availability
Genuinely bad game
7 months ago
Anonymous
I understand the knee-jerk aversion, I had it too, but I've done 100x the breeding in pokemmo despite having 20x the playtime in cartridge games. That's because there is real incentive, unlike cartridge games. As for moves, I don't do comp so I don't have a valid opinion. I've been jarred by things like baton pass and wonder guard working differently.
7 months ago
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>there is real incentive, unlike cartridge games. >I don't do comp so I don't have a valid opinion
lol
7 months ago
Anonymous
Comp existing is just one more incentive that exists in both games. Which, pokemmo actually has comp for games that don't even have MP support without a link cable anymore. The difficulty level is much higher than the base games so having good IVs is important, and dramatically increases incentives for breeding. The market alone is a big incentive. Based games you can wipe the game with one six zero IV pokemon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There has never been a single Pokemon game or romhack that is difficult at all without additional rules like Permadeath, No items in battle, Set mode, level caps etc
7 months ago
Anonymous
I've been sent back to the pokemon center about a dozen times in pokemmo. Maybe it's because I'm stupid, but all trainers have brutal movesets and good AI. My butthole was clenched during the Sabrina fight I had a few days ago, won with half a charizard left and the rest of my team was dead.
7 months ago
Anonymous
pokemmo has badge related level caps per region, and 4 item limit for trainer battles.
something I like about mmo mechanics is when you're doing something like catching 20 of one pokemon looking for good IVs, the excess pokemon you catch aren't wasted. you can sell the excess on the player market for liquid to put toward your other goals. this applies to other stuff too like thieving items and pickup which I used to do as a kid for larp reasons. in a game like this though the charcoals you steal from vulpixes get you decent liquid.
pokemmo >pokemon are saved after over a decade
official pokemon games >battery dies and you lose everything >a glitch deletes your save >online shuts down so the main game feels like a demo with even sometimes huge parts of towns becoming unusable
official pokemon games >costs a subscription to save your pokemon (costs infinite money because you'll never stop paying) >if you stop paying your pokemon are trapped forever
So, is breeding in mmo easier or harder than mainline, keeping in mind the only changes to breeding in MMO other than consuming the parents is averaging the IVs of the parents?
Everstone and Power Item breeding has been a thing since Gen 4 I think
It's not exactly easier or harder, just different, unless you're doing hundreds of breeds with hacked dittos on cart games. The pokemon market makes certain aspects easier if you have a good income method, but consuming parents makes others harder. The main thing in my opinion though is incentive, which barely exists in cart games and heavily exists in pokemmo.
I will preface by saying that last i bothered with breeding in the games was XY so it might be easier now but overall i would say it takes about the same amount of time when it comes to actually breeding the main difference is the setup that comes before the act
In the vanilla games the bulk of the effort would be in getting a male pokemon in each egg group with 6iv but that is just once and afterwards you get that you can breed a 5iv pokemon in about 30 min to 1hr due to rng
In pokemmo you can control every aspect of breeding down to the gender of the offspring so they get rid of rng HOWEVER if you want a 5iv pokemon you will need to either catch or buy 32(i believe it was) pokemon with 1 perfect IV in different stats and that has to be done for each pokemon you want to breed and that takes the bulk of the time needed
On average you need 1mil per 1 natured 5iv, 2 hours of gym rematches net you around 600k per day
Of course, there are many other factors coming into play for example rolling an optimal nature before you breed the natured 4iv can cut a chunk of the cost, or catching all the breeders yourself, or getting a wild pokemon with multiple perfects ivs, etc
But 1mil would be an average
If Pokemmo doesn't have farmable Bottle Caps, Ability Pills, and Nature Mints it's not worth playing
I know there are ability pills but i don't think there are caps or mints
I did spend a couple of hours each catching shroomishes and torkoals yes, thats what saved me money, should have mentioned. I still had to buy a good amount of them, but about half the cost was breeding related held items
I'm 200% sure it doesn't. It relies on some kind of mmo economy which requires raising Pokemon to be as annoying as possible. I played it before and I recall some of the rematches having a real world cooldown unless they changed it.
Not sure what you mean by "raising pokemon", but the rematch system is on a six hour cooldown. With five regions now that's not really bad, and there are other solid ways to make money anyway.
I used one of my master balls on a raikou I randomly ran into when hunting smeargles. Worth 1.5m on the market but I'm holding onto it because it's my favorite johto puppy
Why would I put time into a nintendo fangame that has not even attempted one single step to protect itself from a cease and desist? 1 letter and the entire thing is gone.
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how does breeding all 31 IVs work? I thought you get the average between the two parent numbers.
You get high and low rolls in equal parts when breeding, but there are also held items that force inheritance of a stay or nature. The more 31s you want the more breeds you will need and the more planning you have to do, and getting 4 is a lot easier than getting 5 which is a lot easier than getting 6.
Personally for average use pokemon I just make sure they have at minimum around 130 total with a good spread, and 150-160 total with a good spread is where pokemon start being barely distinguishable in play to a mon with 31s, and after that having all 31s is more about autism/perfectionism.
I played it many years ago. Still have some really rare usernames. The new games suck, the new moves suck. It’s too much of a clusterfrick. Too much switching. Everyone tries too hard worrying about having the perfect stats and the perfect strategies. It’s not the same as when you’d battle your friends using gameboys and link cables. The shit becomes too much of a grind. Past gen 3 Pokémon, it’s just moronic. Even gen 3 itself is questionable. At the same time if you did just have the first 2 generations, maybe everyone would have similar Pokémon, idk, could be a catch22. If you were to line up all Pokemmo players irl and slap them one by one really hard across the face before they sign up and tell them “DO NOT SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS LOOKING UP TUTORIALS FOR STRAGERIES AND THE BEST STATS OR YOU’LL BE SLAPPED AGAIN AND PERMNANENTLY BANNED.” Then it could possibly help, it would be interesting. More people would probably have fun, except during the initiation slap. This is just my opinion so it’s the right one. Don’t take what I’m saying with a grain of salt. If you didn’t even exist in life before people were playing each other at school on the gameboy during at least the second gen then you literally have no point trying to add any opinion to this. Doing so will require presenting a legitimate birth certificate, ID and a picture of your mother giving birth to you while you were crowning.
I think gen 1 and 2 are the best but this is good as an mmo and would probably replay gens 1-5 on pokemmo more in the future because there's more incentive besides just autistically replaying it for muh nostalgia
I’m gonna say something to you and I want you to read this in a funny accent to yourself whilst also listening very carefully to what I’m about to say because I’m ridiculously smart. If you take the game chess for example, the possibility of moves are almost endless. They say that after the second pair of turns, there are 197,742 possible games, and after three moves, 121 million. But it’s actually 122 million, I counted. Don’t believe big tech. Anyway, with all those moves you need to remember that there are still only 32 pieces on the board. So you don’t need a thousands of different Pokémon and moves. This is where they fricked up and they knew this but they had no choice to keep pushing out more and more crap, ice cube Pokémon.. flying icecream.. to keep selling cute things to kids. So it’s not about just nostalgia, it’s actually causing nothing but problems when you keep adding more and more unnecessary pieces to the board.
I just don't play comp. I play pokemom to have adventures and collect cool monsters.
Whilst I can understand where you’re coming from, a crucial part of the game was battling against each other. But I do agree, it’s fun to go on adventures, catch pokemon, maybe even do things to the female pokemon, but I forgot where I was going with this and you guys didn’t present any birth certificates.
actually let me take that back, I would still want to play the og gen 1 and 2 instead of the remakes again some time for muh nostalgia, especially 2 because I haven't played through it in a while
Yes, it's unfortunate that this hollow shell of what it once was 10 years ago is still running. It's funny that you shills keep coming to this board, have you gotten tired of playing with chinks and russians? It's a shame that the cuck staff bent the knee not too long after this.
Yes, it's unfortunate that this hollow shell of what it once was 10 years ago is still running. It's funny that you shills keep coming to this board, have you gotten tired of playing with chinks and russians? It's a shame that the cuck staff bent the knee not too long after this.
Just take your L and leave anon
No need to keep embarrassing yourself kek
it shouldn't be any surprise on a board full of relentless genwars that people who think the best version of five gens is in one game adamantly defend said game. sorry it wasn't daddy gamefreak that put it together.
What region should I do first?
whichever feels freshest, though if you're just looking for a 'meta' answer it might be unova since it has lots of features that are good for setting up for other regions.
Just started like 4 days ago and am at the E4 for both johto and kanto since I decided to do them at the same time. Worked out fairly well so far though the shit like the ho oh boss fight through me for a loop.
Johto was many magnitude harder than kanto. Given Johto is actually brand new to the game I guess it makes sense its so frickin hard. Maybe dont do it unless you feel like feeling the pain.
I like johto and unova the most, but play whatever draws you the most imo. The order doesn't really matter. Unova has really good moneymaking stuff in the postgame tri cities area.
Heh yeah. Spent the entire last 2 days playing pvp. Glad I found out pvping nets you good income for selling eviolites/choice items instead of typhlosion grinding.
Almost makes me nostalgic for gym reruns before I had typhlosions
requires someone autistic enough to maintain one. which isn't me because I play this shit on and off. but yeah with how good of a game it is it deserves a lot more love around here.
I've only ever used attacking moves with the highest power. are there any interesting tactics or abilities you can recommend? I tried using the Serene Grace ability with Tri Attack but it doesn't feel like my math adds up. 7%*3 + 1 stage should add to 40+%, no?
swords dance and similar moves can set up some pretty clean team wipes.
I always run 1-2 chunky slow pokemon for switching/healing, has saved my ass more than once.
weather mechanics are fun and lots of pokemon change the weather when they pop in.
there are random pokemon with interesting abilities all over the place. a friend of mine ran a mienshao with renerator, sunny day, rain dance, u-turn and some fighting move. they'd set up the weather they wanted, take a hit, u-turn and heal 1/3rd HP.
I believe every alpha has a hidden ability. I don't think every pokemon gets alpha spawns, but most I've looked up do. I use pokemondb to check for hidden abilities if it isn't on the wiki, though they can be looked up on the market too. I don't know about any lists.
the only thing I know for sure is that they're planning more types of legendary encounters. I was really impressed with the fights they had in johto, even red gyarados was a cool scary surprise boss monster.
you can try but I doubt they will be very healthy, like I'd make an occasional post while playing but I'm very on and off with it. half of the posts in the last couple of threads have been seething morons walking in to cry over a bunch of made up problems.
god i hope nintendo dmcas that stupid shit
why?
it's a bot
Doesn't the game require the ROMs for Gens 3-5? That should mean they're liable to getting C&D in moments
It requires the roms but they do not provide them, and they only accept money in the form of donations if I remember correctly. It's been around for 11 years so I don't think it's going to go anywhere soon, unfortunately.
>unfortunately
Lmao what a petty b***h homosexual
Yes, it's unfortunate that this hollow shell of what it once was 10 years ago is still running. It's funny that you shills keep coming to this board, have you gotten tired of playing with chinks and russians? It's a shame that the cuck staff bent the knee not too long after this.
that poor kid stuck on brock. I had the same problem as a seven year old.
pokemmo is a vastly superior product to the gen 1 to 5 games. only someone completely ignorant of it would claim otherwise.
>provide superior product for free
>sois come out of the woodwork to bootlick g*mefreak
>"NOOO YOU HAVE TO BUY TWO+ CARTRIDGES PER GENERATION WITH DEAD MULTIPLAYER NO DIFFICULTY NO TRADING BETWEEN CERTAIN TITLES NO QOL NO CONSISTENT MECHANICS AND MOLASSES SPEED GAMEPLAY"
superior in what ways?
>butched audio
>butched cutscenes
>butched graphics
>worsened game mechanics
>absent game mechanics
>NO LEGENDARIES
>NO HIDDEN ABILITIES
>CHANGED EFFECTS OF MOVES/ABILITIES
>CHANGED WHAT MOVES A POKEMON CAN LEARN
You must be still in the stage of denial to like this shit, just because modern pokemon games are dogwater it doesn't mean this... thing... is any good
moron alert
There are hidden abilities and they are easier to get than in the base games. Also when it comes to learnsets they just combined them from all games, that's superior. But saying there are no hidden abilities already betrays you don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know why people feel such a strong urge to make up lies to attack pokemmo with. It's not even trolling style lies, it's just being wrong and usually people are afraid of being wrong, but they don't bat an eye at being wrong over this specific game.
I mean go ahead and keep switching between dead carts if you want.
>changed effects of moves/abilities
it's fine when gamefreak does this every gen I guess. same applies to other things like splitting hairs over mechanics, there are no lures in the base game for example.
it's true you can't own all legendaries, I'm guessing that's related to comp, but the system in place is pretty fun anyway. they are rare encounters at specific locations, and if you defeat them they "join" you temporarily, and other players can force fights on you to "steal" them. it's for pokedex completionism and the pvp minigame, you don't even need them to have a completed natdex for accessing certain endgame content.
>Masterball
bro do you even balltism
Also did they introduce apricorn balls with the release of Johto?
That is one of the things i disliked about pokemmo, other was not keeping legends and not having HAs but i see they are adding them
no, I have no balltism especially when I have 5 master balls. I wasn't looking for a raikou, I was farming smeargle at the time. I don't know the rarity but I heard it was really high and didn't want to get roar'd so I master balled. dunno what else I'd use them on other than maybe an exploding shiny.
yes pokemmo has apricorn balls and HAs.
this "thing" is an overall superior experience to current nintendo goyslop.
Have an open mind, give it a try. I promise if you genuinely enjoy the original 5 region games you will have a good time, and it will actually be moderately challenging.
Also, they added HAs and (some) Legendaries are in game, just not permanently capturable.
gamefreak already lost a lawsuit against them
wtf really?
yes, google it and you'll see conversations talking about it for well over a decade now. the mmo does not host or supply anything related to the pokemon games at all, so they are completely immune to cease and desist orders
I blame gamefreak for not supplying a superior product. Steam beat piracy by being a superior option in many ways. Gamefreak refuses to give us a better option for their early games than fans, so frick em.
I assumed they could surely figure out some way to shut it down no matter what but apparently not
Wrong, I just searched it up, there have been no lawsuits. Apparently there are rumors that it survived a c&d a while ago but I don't know the truth about that.
The reason they get away with it is because technically pokemmo is a mod over the game roms.
it's a fancy emulator(which are legal), nothing more
>Base games stiched together with moving sprites
I sleep
I’m already too busy to play the mainline games, I don’t have time for an mmo.
not going to spend weeks grinding for a team i could prepare in a day in the normal games sorry
>muh economy
dont care
>do gyms
>buy 2 31 iv pokemon and breed them
>ev train
>1 pokemon already done
>buy 2 31 iv pokemon and breed them
they disappear immediately after you breed them though
Still faster than just about any realistic situation in a cartridge, where unlike pokemmo there is basically no reason to breed strong pokemon, especially because multiplayer is dead.
what're you talking about moron, everyone and their mother had 5iv dittos from some type of giveaway back in gen 5 on this board, meant it took only like 30 minutes to get a standard 5iv egg of a gendered mon
nobody would've bothered playing online if they had to drag their balls through the valley of broken glass that's pokeMMO's kneecapped system
if you're into the whole MMO economy thing i can see some appeal, but it's a different audience.
>more lies
No, a majority or even anything more than a small fraction of players have piles of perfect IV ditto, and even if they did they would be trapped on an old cart with very little actual incentive to breed good mons.
If you want to play an inferior product because you lost an internet argument and you're stubborn, fine. The only one who will hurt is you.
and what i'm saying is that if game freak introduced anywhere near the breeding handicaps that pokeMMO shoehorned in, nobody would bother
every generation game freak makes it easier, mmo devs with a cash shop that can ease the grind make it harder for some myserious reason
Most people don't bother IV breeding in vanilla pokemon, because there is little to no incentive.
>disingenuous arguments again
The only thing in pokemmo related to the cash shop that "eases the grind" related to breeding is donor status, which provides a 10% reduction to egg times that are already way faster than cartridge games. You have to lie over and over and over, it's sad.
Nearly everyone had a perfect IV ditto if they played online. Stop being ignorant.
>resorting to lies just to get extra saliva on a multi billion dollar corporations boots
I see you are still buttmad from getting BTFO last thread.
Buy an ad
why? I installed this game 3 days ago and just beaten my first top 4 in johto.
trainers and gym leaders are way harder and I actually had to come up with some strategies to beat them. the 2nd gym leader beat my ass because I picked the plant starter so I used the spike move that geodude learns to make use of his U-turn spam.
having most trade evolutions available is nice too.
>PokeMMO is le bad because I can't have 31IV shiny pokemon team in one day!!
What a weird hill to die on.
Does the game still destroy my Pokemon when I breed them and make learning moves prohibitively expensive to force you to grind arbitrary materials? If so, not interested. I'm already casual enough with those mechanics, making them even more awful than base RS is not something I'm interested in. I'm sure there's some neat stuff in there, hopefully somebody leaks the source and we can make a private server that's not fricking miserable for "economy" reasons.
The fact that you can get more than one earthquake tm makes it superior to the carts in the first place, regardless of whether or not you have to spend 3 minutes rebattling a few trainers in unova to afford to buy one.
Okay, but the game has Unova in it, which had infinite use TMs anyway? You're saying you want the game to be worse than a game that's already in the game? Maybe I'm just not grind-minded enough for this shit. I guess enjoy grinding items for whatever move tutors are in the game now I dunno.
The only realistic thing that is effectively grindier in pokemmo than the base games is shiny hunting, and even then an argument could be made for any horde pokemon being easier to find shiny. Everything else is about the same or much faster, especially after gaining some knowledge. Sweet scent + earthquake/surf/etc. is insanely fast leveling compared to the base game for example,, but a new player might not realize that immediately.
It was a thing on /vp/ about 4 or 5 years ago for a couple of months
There were even 2 guilds but once people beat every region the novelty wore off and everyone stopped playing
Nowadays you often get the occassional shill thread(often after major updates), or someone new discovering the game but the thread dies with fewer than 10 posts, or ends up in shitflinging about breeding, as you can see
My unova team, I used the golurk in place of a starter. I want to put fly on the fricker but it feels wrong giving up the shadow punch.
What exactly would I get out of this compared to the mainline games? They took out "certain" Pokemon from availability and made breeding very annoying.
Seamless item/pokemon pool between five regions, much better AI, more challenging level curve/movesets, actual realistic reasons to breed in the first place, massive piles of QoL in all kinds of areas, actual living multiplayer, in game economy adding lots of gameplay elements that don't exist on cartridge, consistent mechanics, near-sandbox level learnsets and move access, not limited to specific mons on specific games, no exclusives. Off the top of my head.
My main gripe with it is its too easy to buy money. I've also heard of a couple of whacko nerfs, like wonder guard.
What reason do I have to play multiplayer on Pokemmo I can't just do on showdown though?
this game exists in a shitty inbetween area from official games and showdown.
If you're only interested in meta pvp, there is no reason to play pokemmo. It's a vastly superior version of the gen 1-5 games if you like playing pokemon games. But if you're only into fights with other players and nothing else then do showdown.
Shame there's no Pokemon game that contains all regions Gen 1-5 without shitty mmo mechanics
You really should just try it. I probably sound like a shill, but I've been playing on and off for the last year and I'm just someone who is amazed at how good of a pokemon experience it is compared to the base games, and I don't like seeing people here who haven't even played it shit on it with made up stuff. I love playing pokemon and pokemmo is by far the best gens 1-5 experience for a mountain of reasons. Even little mechanics like lures add so much fun gameplay for someone with my tastes.
>breeding consumes the parents
That alone is enough for me to not bother.
>devs made personal balance decisions like nerfing moves and move availability
Genuinely bad game
I understand the knee-jerk aversion, I had it too, but I've done 100x the breeding in pokemmo despite having 20x the playtime in cartridge games. That's because there is real incentive, unlike cartridge games. As for moves, I don't do comp so I don't have a valid opinion. I've been jarred by things like baton pass and wonder guard working differently.
>there is real incentive, unlike cartridge games.
>I don't do comp so I don't have a valid opinion
lol
Comp existing is just one more incentive that exists in both games. Which, pokemmo actually has comp for games that don't even have MP support without a link cable anymore. The difficulty level is much higher than the base games so having good IVs is important, and dramatically increases incentives for breeding. The market alone is a big incentive. Based games you can wipe the game with one six zero IV pokemon.
There has never been a single Pokemon game or romhack that is difficult at all without additional rules like Permadeath, No items in battle, Set mode, level caps etc
I've been sent back to the pokemon center about a dozen times in pokemmo. Maybe it's because I'm stupid, but all trainers have brutal movesets and good AI. My butthole was clenched during the Sabrina fight I had a few days ago, won with half a charizard left and the rest of my team was dead.
pokemmo has badge related level caps per region, and 4 item limit for trainer battles.
something I like about mmo mechanics is when you're doing something like catching 20 of one pokemon looking for good IVs, the excess pokemon you catch aren't wasted. you can sell the excess on the player market for liquid to put toward your other goals. this applies to other stuff too like thieving items and pickup which I used to do as a kid for larp reasons. in a game like this though the charcoals you steal from vulpixes get you decent liquid.
>actual realistic reasons to breed in the first place
ahahahahah
no
pokemmo
>pokemon are saved after over a decade
official pokemon games
>battery dies and you lose everything
>a glitch deletes your save
>online shuts down so the main game feels like a demo with even sometimes huge parts of towns becoming unusable
official pokemon games
>costs a subscription to save your pokemon (costs infinite money because you'll never stop paying)
>if you stop paying your pokemon are trapped forever
>know you no longer want to pay the negligible cost to store your pokemon
>take them out before you cancel
I know, crazy.
>Nintendo decides to shutdown their online services
>Now all your pokemon are stuck forever in a cartridge that will eventually stop working
>backup save to PC
>backup Pokemon with PkHex into an offline bank
wow that was hard
well yeah, that is a lot of work.
So, is breeding in mmo easier or harder than mainline, keeping in mind the only changes to breeding in MMO other than consuming the parents is averaging the IVs of the parents?
Everstone and Power Item breeding has been a thing since Gen 4 I think
It's not exactly easier or harder, just different, unless you're doing hundreds of breeds with hacked dittos on cart games. The pokemon market makes certain aspects easier if you have a good income method, but consuming parents makes others harder. The main thing in my opinion though is incentive, which barely exists in cart games and heavily exists in pokemmo.
I will preface by saying that last i bothered with breeding in the games was XY so it might be easier now but overall i would say it takes about the same amount of time when it comes to actually breeding the main difference is the setup that comes before the act
In the vanilla games the bulk of the effort would be in getting a male pokemon in each egg group with 6iv but that is just once and afterwards you get that you can breed a 5iv pokemon in about 30 min to 1hr due to rng
In pokemmo you can control every aspect of breeding down to the gender of the offspring so they get rid of rng HOWEVER if you want a 5iv pokemon you will need to either catch or buy 32(i believe it was) pokemon with 1 perfect IV in different stats and that has to be done for each pokemon you want to breed and that takes the bulk of the time needed
On average you need 1mil per 1 natured 5iv, 2 hours of gym rematches net you around 600k per day
These are my two big dick mons. I would say on average each cost me around 5-600k to build.
Also showing off this thing i caught as a level 3 weedle in johto, I fully evolved it before checking its IVs.
Of course, there are many other factors coming into play for example rolling an optimal nature before you breed the natured 4iv can cut a chunk of the cost, or catching all the breeders yourself, or getting a wild pokemon with multiple perfects ivs, etc
But 1mil would be an average
I know there are ability pills but i don't think there are caps or mints
I did spend a couple of hours each catching shroomishes and torkoals yes, thats what saved me money, should have mentioned. I still had to buy a good amount of them, but about half the cost was breeding related held items
Based I'm trying to make a garchomp with all 31s (except in sp. att because im pretty sure that won't do anything for it at all)
Mixed Attacker Chomp is a thing in Gen 5, which should be the most analogous to PokemMO's meta, and that needs 6IVs, otherwise 5 will be fine
how does breeding all 31 IVs work? I thought you get the average between the two parent numbers.
Also of note for breeding, there are alpha pokemon encounters that are guaranteed at least two 31s and a hidden ability.
If Pokemmo doesn't have farmable Bottle Caps, Ability Pills, and Nature Mints it's not worth playing
I'm 200% sure it doesn't. It relies on some kind of mmo economy which requires raising Pokemon to be as annoying as possible. I played it before and I recall some of the rematches having a real world cooldown unless they changed it.
Not sure what you mean by "raising pokemon", but the rematch system is on a six hour cooldown. With five regions now that's not really bad, and there are other solid ways to make money anyway.
I've recently learned you can have the legendary beasts and Shaymin with no stupid strings attached and there are mints specifically for them only.
I used one of my master balls on a raikou I randomly ran into when hunting smeargles. Worth 1.5m on the market but I'm holding onto it because it's my favorite johto puppy
How different is the game from say, 9 years ago? Are FR and Emerald entirely different?
no halloween event this year?
I think it's on Halloween. You know so you can't participate in the actual holiday.
Why would I put time into a nintendo fangame that has not even attempted one single step to protect itself from a cease and desist? 1 letter and the entire thing is gone.
It's been there for over a decade.
You get high and low rolls in equal parts when breeding, but there are also held items that force inheritance of a stay or nature. The more 31s you want the more breeds you will need and the more planning you have to do, and getting 4 is a lot easier than getting 5 which is a lot easier than getting 6.
Personally for average use pokemon I just make sure they have at minimum around 130 total with a good spread, and 150-160 total with a good spread is where pokemon start being barely distinguishable in play to a mon with 31s, and after that having all 31s is more about autism/perfectionism.
You're clueless.
let's goooo please be the right nature
Good luck, always shitting bricks before looking at the nature on a breed like that
it's modest REEEEEEEE
Oof. At that point I'd just sell it and buy a jolly.
I need Naive so I'll probably keep trying to make 4x's until I get Naive so I can Everstone them with the 5x
I played it many years ago. Still have some really rare usernames. The new games suck, the new moves suck. It’s too much of a clusterfrick. Too much switching. Everyone tries too hard worrying about having the perfect stats and the perfect strategies. It’s not the same as when you’d battle your friends using gameboys and link cables. The shit becomes too much of a grind. Past gen 3 Pokémon, it’s just moronic. Even gen 3 itself is questionable. At the same time if you did just have the first 2 generations, maybe everyone would have similar Pokémon, idk, could be a catch22. If you were to line up all Pokemmo players irl and slap them one by one really hard across the face before they sign up and tell them “DO NOT SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS LOOKING UP TUTORIALS FOR STRAGERIES AND THE BEST STATS OR YOU’LL BE SLAPPED AGAIN AND PERMNANENTLY BANNED.” Then it could possibly help, it would be interesting. More people would probably have fun, except during the initiation slap. This is just my opinion so it’s the right one. Don’t take what I’m saying with a grain of salt. If you didn’t even exist in life before people were playing each other at school on the gameboy during at least the second gen then you literally have no point trying to add any opinion to this. Doing so will require presenting a legitimate birth certificate, ID and a picture of your mother giving birth to you while you were crowning.
I think gen 1 and 2 are the best but this is good as an mmo and would probably replay gens 1-5 on pokemmo more in the future because there's more incentive besides just autistically replaying it for muh nostalgia
I’m gonna say something to you and I want you to read this in a funny accent to yourself whilst also listening very carefully to what I’m about to say because I’m ridiculously smart. If you take the game chess for example, the possibility of moves are almost endless. They say that after the second pair of turns, there are 197,742 possible games, and after three moves, 121 million. But it’s actually 122 million, I counted. Don’t believe big tech. Anyway, with all those moves you need to remember that there are still only 32 pieces on the board. So you don’t need a thousands of different Pokémon and moves. This is where they fricked up and they knew this but they had no choice to keep pushing out more and more crap, ice cube Pokémon.. flying icecream.. to keep selling cute things to kids. So it’s not about just nostalgia, it’s actually causing nothing but problems when you keep adding more and more unnecessary pieces to the board.
Whilst I can understand where you’re coming from, a crucial part of the game was battling against each other. But I do agree, it’s fun to go on adventures, catch pokemon, maybe even do things to the female pokemon, but I forgot where I was going with this and you guys didn’t present any birth certificates.
meds
That "guy" telling you to take meds is a fed. Don't listen to him.
It’s cool. It’s an acronym for “Merited & extremely dignified speculation.
Cheers man thanks for reading.
actually let me take that back, I would still want to play the og gen 1 and 2 instead of the remakes again some time for muh nostalgia, especially 2 because I haven't played through it in a while
I just don't play comp. I play pokemom to have adventures and collect cool monsters.
How many pesos did they pay you for this post, spic?
moron proof way to raise happiness? lvling up my togepi is a pain. im already using the soothe bell.
look at what kind of food they like: dry, spicy, etc and feed them a dry berry if they like dry or whatever they like
These shill threads are getting really obvious by now
how much does gamefreak pay you to post this?
Just take your L and leave anon
No need to keep embarrassing yourself kek
it shouldn't be any surprise on a board full of relentless genwars that people who think the best version of five gens is in one game adamantly defend said game. sorry it wasn't daddy gamefreak that put it together.
whichever feels freshest, though if you're just looking for a 'meta' answer it might be unova since it has lots of features that are good for setting up for other regions.
What region should I do first?
the one you want to do most duh
IP count has only gone up by 1 since I last checked
>wow people are talking to each other on an image board how can this be
thanks for the precious info
The IP count is still at 25, why did you reply to my post twice?
moron warning
Its still at 25 so how did you make the post you just made?
why does mentioning this game make people so butthurt?
It doesn't. There hasn't been a genuine response to any discussion on this board in years
behold
I want a new region
if they had gen 6 nintendo would have to finally shut it down for being so dogshit. they only keep it up because it's 1-5 now.
If you want fanfic content go to pokeone or pokemon revolution
About to start playing. What region should I play first?
Just started like 4 days ago and am at the E4 for both johto and kanto since I decided to do them at the same time. Worked out fairly well so far though the shit like the ho oh boss fight through me for a loop.
Johto was many magnitude harder than kanto. Given Johto is actually brand new to the game I guess it makes sense its so frickin hard. Maybe dont do it unless you feel like feeling the pain.
I like johto and unova the most, but play whatever draws you the most imo. The order doesn't really matter. Unova has really good moneymaking stuff in the postgame tri cities area.
dont do hoenn or sinnoh. easy and boring.
you will lose to gary over and over if you start in kanto
It constantly baffles me that there's no consistent PokeMMO thread. I'm on that shit like 4+ hours almost every day.
Heh yeah. Spent the entire last 2 days playing pvp. Glad I found out pvping nets you good income for selling eviolites/choice items instead of typhlosion grinding.
Almost makes me nostalgic for gym reruns before I had typhlosions
requires someone autistic enough to maintain one. which isn't me because I play this shit on and off. but yeah with how good of a game it is it deserves a lot more love around here.
I've only ever used attacking moves with the highest power. are there any interesting tactics or abilities you can recommend? I tried using the Serene Grace ability with Tri Attack but it doesn't feel like my math adds up. 7%*3 + 1 stage should add to 40+%, no?
swords dance and similar moves can set up some pretty clean team wipes.
I always run 1-2 chunky slow pokemon for switching/healing, has saved my ass more than once.
weather mechanics are fun and lots of pokemon change the weather when they pop in.
there are random pokemon with interesting abilities all over the place. a friend of mine ran a mienshao with renerator, sunny day, rain dance, u-turn and some fighting move. they'd set up the weather they wanted, take a hit, u-turn and heal 1/3rd HP.
>hidden ability
is there a list of them or something? does every Alpha have one? the wiki doesn't tell
I believe every alpha has a hidden ability. I don't think every pokemon gets alpha spawns, but most I've looked up do. I use pokemondb to check for hidden abilities if it isn't on the wiki, though they can be looked up on the market too. I don't know about any lists.
What are the features that has yet to be implemented?
the only thing I know for sure is that they're planning more types of legendary encounters. I was really impressed with the fights they had in johto, even red gyarados was a cool scary surprise boss monster.
Can you play the pokeathlon?
Bumping this.
Lets make a general, or at least give it a shot given how much activity this got.
What should be in the OP? What obvious/useful guides/links? Are ROM links jannied around here?
There is not enough traction for a general, people have tried to revive it a couple of times through the years but the threads die unceremoniously
Funny thing is that haters keep these threads alive kek
you can try but I doubt they will be very healthy, like I'd make an occasional post while playing but I'm very on and off with it. half of the posts in the last couple of threads have been seething morons walking in to cry over a bunch of made up problems.
I cant contribute without going into blogposting territory