Pokmon Mystery Dungeon

Can we have a Mystery Dungeon thread? I got Pokémon Red Rescue Team when it originally released for the GBA and I was glued to the game for weeks on end. It's probably my third favourite Pokémon game of all time.
Do you remember the questionnaire to decide which Pokémon you'd be? I was a Charmander and my partner was a Chikorita. I feel like the story was god tier for people my age at the time. Just the right amount of funny stuff, sappy stuff, melodrama, mystery sprinkled in - by the time the game ended you would take a bullet without hesitation for the friends your character made along the way.

The gameplay was great too, remember those insanely long dungeons towards the end? Like, the crazy optional ones. You'd have to prepare like you were going camping with all the items and food you'd have to bring to survive a 100 floor dungeon. The sprites were so charming too.

AND THE FUCKING MUSIC:

None of my friends at the time gave a shit about this game, probably because it was a spin off. I'm not really even sure if this game was considered good or great on release. And as many times as I've played through Red Rescue Team, I've actually never played any of the sequels. Are they good? I would hope they built off what made the original so addicting and continued to have memorable stories and good music. I really should get cracking on playing the rest of the series.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My dad saw me crying while playing this game and he asked me what was wrong and I said I stubbed my toe
    why was this game so fucking sad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because it really makes you care about the characters, and the great music helps convey the emotion

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded gay LOL you're the kind of chudgay to be ridicolus around your father and make him.constantl disappointed of having generated this

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky are masterpieces I highly recommend. Definitely worthy successors. After that though, I'd avoid the others.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Saddest part is that nothing like those titles won't ever be seen again. It was also the best game on Chunsoft's mystery dungeon series.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I respectfully disagree. Shiren the Wanderer 2 is the best in the Mystery Dungeon series. It has an English patch, if you want to emulate the Super Famicom version. Otherwise, I think the DS Shiren the Wanderer is a remake? of 2, if you're looking for options. It isn't bad, but I prefer the original.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon shiren 2 is on the n64

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Shiren the Wanderer 2
            >Famicom
            You mean Shiren 1, which is Mystery Dungeon 2, since MD1 was a Dragon Quest Spinoff.
            Shiren 2 is also a great game though that also recently got a translation patch, it's much easier than 1 though.

            whichever game pic rel is. I saw the "2" and assumed it was the second one, but I stand corrected. This is the game I recommend.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The English patch is kind of junk, the enemy that steals your money spits out text like "stole 51;arrow" or some shit

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't recall anything like that happening in my game. I like the singular goal. The risk/reward of stashing and improving weapons and items to get you further and further. The original enemies being yokai, which were changed in the DS version for some reason. I guess it's weak, narrative wise? But that's also something that I like about it. From the moment you turn the game on, you're playing the game.

                The DS game is a remake of that game and it's mostly the same except it makes the game slightly easier in some aspects and gives you more of a tutorial. They're extremely similar though since I think they mostly share the same spritework. DS does have the advantage of not having a slightly glitchy fan translation though, as [...] says.

                Also you should give the N64 game a try, it's pretty fun as well. I've yet to beat the 3rd or 5th games despite playing them a bit.

                I'll have to give the 64 one a go. I recall trying one on the PSP, and not much caring for it. But I also didn't give it much of a chance.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The DS game is a remake of that game and it's mostly the same except it makes the game slightly easier in some aspects and gives you more of a tutorial. They're extremely similar though since I think they mostly share the same spritework. DS does have the advantage of not having a slightly glitchy fan translation though, as

              The English patch is kind of junk, the enemy that steals your money spits out text like "stole 51;arrow" or some shit

              says.

              Also you should give the N64 game a try, it's pretty fun as well. I've yet to beat the 3rd or 5th games despite playing them a bit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Shiren the Wanderer 2
          >Famicom
          You mean Shiren 1, which is Mystery Dungeon 2, since MD1 was a Dragon Quest Spinoff.
          Shiren 2 is also a great game though that also recently got a translation patch, it's much easier than 1 though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why? Super is good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the games with massively worse story, massively worse gameplay, massively worse postgame are 'worthy successors'
      No.

      https://i.imgur.com/g6POI1L.jpg

      Can we have a Mystery Dungeon thread? I got Pokémon Red Rescue Team when it originally released for the GBA and I was glued to the game for weeks on end. It's probably my third favourite Pokémon game of all time.
      Do you remember the questionnaire to decide which Pokémon you'd be? I was a Charmander and my partner was a Chikorita. I feel like the story was god tier for people my age at the time. Just the right amount of funny stuff, sappy stuff, melodrama, mystery sprinkled in - by the time the game ended you would take a bullet without hesitation for the friends your character made along the way.

      The gameplay was great too, remember those insanely long dungeons towards the end? Like, the crazy optional ones. You'd have to prepare like you were going camping with all the items and food you'd have to bring to survive a 100 floor dungeon. The sprites were so charming too.

      AND THE FUCKING MUSIC:

      None of my friends at the time gave a shit about this game, probably because it was a spin off. I'm not really even sure if this game was considered good or great on release. And as many times as I've played through Red Rescue Team, I've actually never played any of the sequels. Are they good? I would hope they built off what made the original so addicting and continued to have memorable stories and good music. I really should get cracking on playing the rest of the series.

      Unfortunately OP Rescue Team is very much the peak of the franchise and it's still not very good as an adult.
      Super is the closest to capturing difficulty/an actual roguelike feeling but it also has the worst writing in the series, only slightly worse than Explorers.
      Just move onto actual dungeon crawler/roguelike games that don't suffer from 'Pokemon-ization', that is where the Pokemon gameplay elements clash horribly with what makes dungeon crawler/roguelikes fun.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Unfortunately OP Rescue Team is very much the peak of the franchise and it's still not very good as an adult.
        Well it's not hard to figure out you're retarded, that's a good thing

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >has the shortest 'story' so fewer dialogue boxes to mash A through
          >has the best postgame filled with multiple or level 1 99F dungeons
          >dungeons are also actually somewhat long and challenging across the board and require some bare minimum of resource management
          >has the best artstyle of the franchise by far
          >is relatively a more impressive game to its console than explorers (basically a fucking GBA game) or the 3D games (look like shit)
          >was the first game, and thus can't be blamed for how the rest of the series repeated its worst flaws over and over
          Its not great or good even, but it's the best in the series. DX would be better if not for the vomit inducing art style.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Man its crazy how thin skinned the 'people' who like PMD are kek

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You typed all that gay shit up and I didn't read it. LOL

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And yet you're still seething

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well duh, PMD fans are contrarians that will cry like a baby whenever anyone calls the games mediocre

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Super is the closest to capturing difficulty/an actual roguelike feeling
        For anyone wondering, this guy has never played a roguelike. Super and the emeras make the game IMPOSSIBLE to lose and in general the story is a fuckfest.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think he made it evident he's retarded

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah gee maybe that's why I said "the closest" and not "the best at", you can't lose in any of these games just due to how broken Gummis and Reviver Seeds are.
          >and in general the story is a fuckfest
          Its almost like I said this in the post you're quoting...

          I think he made it evident he's retarded

          >she's still seething
          Lmao
          Let's see how long this lasts

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>she's
            Ywnbaw

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >pmd fan calling anyone else a chud
              You show em sist-*ack!*

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Saving Tumblr screencaps to own the chuds
                Holy ngmi

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Gummis
            >Broken
            Emeras are literally straight up power-ups that make Revivers completely unnecessary. Please don't make assumptions about games you have never played, and genres you've never touched.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Resuce story, gameplay, """""postgame""""
        >isekai'd for no real reason
        >thought to be the cause of the world's problems, but it's someone else who was isekai'd for no real reason
        >no real goal besides "doing the right thing"
        >partner's a literally who, who only exists to hold your hand until the postgame where they're mind wiped and become the same as the rest of the recruitable drones
        >Gameplay a serviceable, base template
        >""""""postgame"""""" consisting of a few legendary quests they actively encourage you to do before it just stops, and then you can "wrap up" the loose ends with Gengar, even though it doesn't even require your MC
        Explorers story
        >Human from the doomed future going back to change the past
        >You matter because you can see visions of the future
        >memory_loss.png once you get to the past
        >become your partner's support net and help THEM through their goals until you rediscover yours
        >go on a feels trip until you save the world
        >postgame has you and your partner move out, adopt a kid together, and eventually face the true reason for everything that went wrong, all while remaining together, and them not vanishing to become a nobody
        >gameplay's the same as before, but expanded
        I like rescue team too anon, but don't pretend it's the peak

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The partner in both games is pretty much the same.
          Postgame in Rescue Team is vastly better than Explorers. I don't know how you could compare the two. The number of dungeons, the legendary hunt, the actual hint of real difficulty in the multiple Level 1 and/or 99 floor dungeons is so much better than "insert edgy try hard villain who comes out of nowhere but is responsible for the whole plot" and the Manaphy nonsense which ends as quickly as it starts.

          Explorer's actual story is riddled with plotholes, forgettable characters, characters that deliberately have to be retarded to move the plot forward, and a premise that itself is mind boggingly fucking stupid. Rescue Team isn't a ton better, but it's shorter and commits fewer/less egregious writing sins (Rayquaza doesn't just look up to see a giant meteor vs. the massive and multilayered shitshow that is the Time Gears and the planetwide time stop).

          Rescue Team is the peak. It just doesn't have good following games.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So the core of your gripes is "I just wanna dungeon crawl"
            In that case sure, rescue team hones in on that pretty hard, but in every other aspect, explorers is better.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're not incorrect that I played a...dungeon crawler...to dungeon crawl...and I have no idea why you would play a roguelike if all you were going to do was read a story. At this point you should go read a book or play a visual novel if you want input.

              But even regardless, as I said, Rescue Team has far better pacing and superior writing to Explorers. Not by virtue of Rescue Team having an exceptional plot, but more because of Explorers either lazily rehashing plot threads from Rescue Team or because of Explorer's dumpster fire of a premise.

              >so you see we need to steal the time gears and put them in the tower
              >this is despite the fact that removing the time gears causes a local apocalypse for some reason...
              >and the time gears have ancient powerful deities guarding them who think they should be there...
              >and even though time stops in a local area when you remove a time gear the planetwide time stop that will happen if we don't put the time gears where we need to be is for some reason completely different...

              It's not really a novel idea to think that a children's game with time travel which infamously ruins narratives under the pen of more competent writers has a stupid story.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I, like many others played mystery dungeon because it had pokemon on the tin, not because we were versed in roguelikes. For a lot of people the story and characters made them stick around despite the roguelike gameplay.

                Rescue team has horrible to non existent pacing, what are you talking about?
                >absolutely nothing until Xatu, who just vaguely alludes to what's going on
                >suddenly you're the antichrist and have to go on the run until a ninetales absolves you
                >then suddenly the world is plagued by natural disasters
                >then suddenly a meteor, we gotta ask fug to blow it up!
                >k we're done now
                >oh, and I guess it was actually gengar's fault...
                The only "plot thread" that was redone was the fact that you're an isekai'd human that befriends a partner, and ESPECIALLY then it's done better in explorers

                I'm not saying the time shit was perfect, but it's leagues better than the aimless "day after tomorrow" shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I really like how you're implicitly just outright saying you dislike the gameplay of the games you're putting on a pedestal. What's even the point in playing them, then? You could just watch one of those PMD cutscene movies on YouTube.

                You don't need to rehash the entirety of Rescue Team's plot to me, we've both presumably played it. I also don't know why you're criticizing a game I myself didn't call particularly good.
                The point is that Rescue Team jumps into the actual action and meat of the story significantly faster than Explorers. Nothing happens before you meet Xatu? Good thing there's only 5 or so mandatory missions before Xatu. Explorers early game is so cluttered with random irrelevant bullshit featuring the exact same characters as in Rescue Team and lasts twice as long.
                Seriously. Team Skull is just Team Meanies. Azurill and Drowzee are just Diglett and Skarmory. The partner undergoes the exact same development in both games (Explorers just shoehorns them being relevant with the Relic Fragment at the end of the story otherwise they would have been completely pointless).
                Ironically the isekai actually isn't completely lifted from Rescue Team, though it brings up bizarre questions like what the fuck was a human doing in the ruined future in the first place or why they spontaneously turned into a Pokemon because the time portal got destroyed. But of course the fake out death at the climax that gets reverted in 5 minutes is 100% lifted and just as forced emotional as it was in Rescue Team.

                Rescue Team has a mediocre plot, Explorers is just outright bad. The fact that you can't even have what's supposed to be the most emotional and impactful scene in the whole game be original on top of the time travel bullshit is a fucking travesty. Complete goyslop

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't dislike the gameplay anon, what gave you that impression? I'm saying that years back mystery dungeon was the introduction to roguelikes for myself and others. We didn't go in expecting that, we went in expecting "pokemon, but____" Most enjoyed it, but largely due to the plot and characters facilitating the gameplay, of which explorers was a lot more engaging.

                I'm critisizing it because you're claiming it's better in comparison, when it's not. You like it becuse there's less "plot fluff" to get in the way of straight dungeon crawling. And im saying that doesn't make it's story good, especially when said "story" are largely disconnected mission arcs (yes, you save people before Xatu, but they don't matter beyond cameos later on). If you like/prefer that, great, in the end it's still serviceable, but in regards to an overarching story and plot, the sequel(s) do it better. And the partner absolutely doesn't go through the same developments. The partner in rescue's literally exists to pull you along, and them pulling you along is entirely for the sake of it.
                >Start a rescue team? Their idea, and you go along cause "why not, it's the right thing to do"
                >Find out what's wrong with the world? Their idea, and you go along cause "why not, it's the right thing to do"
                >You get accused? They suggest you both flee, and you go along cause "nothin else to do"
                And so on
                In explorers they have a clear, defined goal from the start.
                >I wanna be a great explorer
                You coming into the picture's entirely disconnected from that, and you deciding to help is less "it's the right thing to do" and more "until I figure out who I am and why I'm here, helping them out's a good way to get by."
                I'd go on, but it's clear at this point that heels are dug in, so I guess I'll leave it at that.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>I wanna be a great explorer
                >You coming into the picture's entirely disconnected from that
                The pansy you call a partner would've been a complete failure if you weren't there to provide the 'emotional support' to get them into the Guild in the first place. You even bothering to be an Explorer with them is less 'I have nothing better to do' and more them begging your ass to stay. Do NOT pretend you're speaking in anything but hypocriticals, Explorersfag. Nobody better give me the bullcrap that the Relic fragment 'chose' the Explorers partner when they wet their pants on that damn grate and would've been robbed blind and left there to rot had you not miraculously washed up in front of them. The Explorers partner is literally nothing without you and exists solely as a cheerleader. Rescue's Partner could have ditched you in Tiny Woods and kept living their life because they don't break down into tears the second someone looks at them wrong.

                boring as fuck*. Everyone aims to "do the right thing" who the fuck cares? I'd rather see a character with actual goals than one who's an aimless saint.

                But enough about the Explorers partner.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The pansy you call a partner would've been a complete failure if you weren't there to provide the 'emotional support'
                Yes, and that's what makes them endearing. Rather than some saint coming by and willing whatever you need into existence before they vanish to their dirt field at night, it's YOU stepping in to help. They don't beg you to stay, they ask you to join them, and you, genuinely having no other options, decide to do so. There's literally nothing wrong with being the support net for your partner autismo. I know intimate, human connections scare you, but they're a good thing.
                >Rescue's Partner could have ditched you in Tiny Woods and kept living their life because they don't break down into tears the second someone looks at them wrong.
                Yes, and they're all the more irrelevant for it. So much so that once the main plot ends, they cease to be a character. They no longer meet you in the mornings, and when you go to recruit them after the fact, ALL their dialogue is replaced with generic text for that species. They're a non character through and through.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't dislike the gameplay anon, what gave you that impression
                "For a lot of people the story and characters made them stick around despite the roguelike gameplay".
                >And im saying that doesn't make it's story good,
                Literally everything you said here applies to Explorers (the shitty vague goals, the random people you rescue who don't do anything), except Explorers also has a bumfuck retarded time travel plot with a million holes on top of it. I didn't say Rescue Team's story was "good". I said it was better.
                I'm not particularly interested in debating whether the poorly written partner in Explorers is better than the poorly written partner in Rescue Team, especially when your argument is basically just summarizing the plot progression but shoveling a bunch of details on top. What actually happens in both games is
                >the partner starts off plucky, but also has a hidden cowardly side
                >when going to fight skarmory/drowzee, the partner is shitting themselves but you help them through it
                >the partner then does jack shit for the rest of the game (except in explorers when they had to shoehorn in plot relevance with the relic fragment to try and make their continued presence justified by the last 20 minutes of game)
                They're the same character. And hell, people ITT right now are posting the Rescue Team partner if anything having more personality and bite than the Explorers partner.

                >but it's clear at this point that heels are dug in
                90% of this discussion didn't even matter from the outset because my main focus when I play games is the actual gameplay, not the shitty story the game forces me to click through.
                Again, if you want an actual story with well written and engaging characters, you have hundreds of better options than the self defeating premise of a Pokemon roguelike of all things.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shockingly enough, going from turn based RPG to roguelike might be polarizing, but the aforementioned aspects convince people to give it a go.
                They're not the same, but we're arguing in circles.

                I'm aware of why you prefer the first, and I get why/agree that it's better for straight dungeon crawling, but in regards to narrative structure for what's largely a story driven game, the sequel does it better. Not perfectly, but better. If the first went all in on the mission format it clearly has, then I might say it's better, but it attempts to string that together into a plot, and it sucks.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          'd for no real reason
          kek, never thought about it. How will Rescucks recover from this?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            that's completely wrong, though.
            MC was brought to the world to stop the meteor.
            gardevoir flat out says that.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm not a cuck, just a hero
              Every
              single
              TIME

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just like how there's a human for no reason in the bad future?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              They establish that humans exist in that world, just in "far off lands".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          's a literally who, who only exists to hold your hand
          Wrong, they're their own fucking person? Explorers Partner is the literal who doormat here.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            funny how the RT partner had an actual personality and interactions with the player, then in every subsequent game the partner exists solely to suck your dick.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'll take a lot of shit-talking about Rescue Team but the blatant LIE that the Rescue Team partner is a handholding doormat literal who is the one thing I will NEVER stand for.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>no real goal besides "doing the right thing"
          Which is based as fuck. Doing the best you can is a much more potent story than 'mary sue time traveler saves the day with precognition powers while being dicksucked by everyone they meet'

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            boring as fuck*. Everyone aims to "do the right thing" who the fuck cares? I'd rather see a character with actual goals than one who's an aimless saint.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'd rather see a character with actual goals
              Explorers Partner isn't a character, it is a prop. You can call them a fucking wimp to their face and they'll thank you for it. The stockholm syndrome is palpable.
              Refute the argument that Explorers partner is a doormat literal who, if you even can. You can't bash the Rescue Partner for your nonexistent criticism, then praise the Explorers for being the same exact thing. I could remove the Explorers partner's blubbering entirely and the story would be more or less the same. Who says the protag wouldn't be able to find their own way towards the Guild without some crybaby hounding them?

              >The pansy you call a partner would've been a complete failure if you weren't there to provide the 'emotional support'
              Yes, and that's what makes them endearing. Rather than some saint coming by and willing whatever you need into existence before they vanish to their dirt field at night, it's YOU stepping in to help. They don't beg you to stay, they ask you to join them, and you, genuinely having no other options, decide to do so. There's literally nothing wrong with being the support net for your partner autismo. I know intimate, human connections scare you, but they're a good thing.
              >Rescue's Partner could have ditched you in Tiny Woods and kept living their life because they don't break down into tears the second someone looks at them wrong.
              Yes, and they're all the more irrelevant for it. So much so that once the main plot ends, they cease to be a character. They no longer meet you in the mornings, and when you go to recruit them after the fact, ALL their dialogue is replaced with generic text for that species. They're a non character through and through.

              >Yes, and they're all the more irrelevant for it.
              No, they're an actual character with a life outside of you, which if you weren't such a hypocrit you'd acknowledge and appreciate. The Explorers is there to railroad you into the story even moreso than the Rescue Team's partner. Compare
              >Hey, Explorersprotag, will you form a team with me?! Please?! [Incessant babbling following by your thought process that you have no control over into agreeing with them]
              To
              >I liked how you handled yourself with Caterpie. We should form a Rescue Team because we could help out a lot more people that way.
              Rescue Partner didn't grovel at your feet, tard.
              >ALL their dialogue is replaced with generic text for that species
              Because by that point you could evolve them? Funny how you cite development limitations when it's suitable for you. We're not discussing postgame, we're discussing which of these two partners is the doormat, and it's VERY obvious to anyone with a brain who is.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong file. Pic related, I want everyone to read carefully and tell me what a pansy Explorers partner is.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, they're an actual character with a life outside of you
                What life? They cease to exist the moment they leave you.
                >Because by that point you could evolve them?
                No, the moment you're done with the main plot and you get the option to disengage them, they cease to be a character. With all the rampant dick sucking you're doing for the character, you'd think you would know this.
                >We're not discussing postgame, we're discussing which of these two partners is the doormat
                No we're not, that's the point you panicked to when you ran out of ways to defend your characterless character.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Present your evidence to my ‘characterless’ character if you have any. I’ve literally debunked your entire argument and all you can do is repeat your points like a child.

                >Rescucks are still malding

                >Explorerskeks defeated after starting a battle they can’t win
                You don’t shit talked Rescue’s partner for free. Cope.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Rescucks cucked by a Ganker word filter
                What a retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Explorersbabbling
                I rest my case.

                >No, they're an actual character with a life outside of you
                What life? They cease to exist the moment they leave you.
                >Because by that point you could evolve them?
                No, the moment you're done with the main plot and you get the option to disengage them, they cease to be a character. With all the rampant dick sucking you're doing for the character, you'd think you would know this.
                >We're not discussing postgame, we're discussing which of these two partners is the doormat
                No we're not, that's the point you panicked to when you ran out of ways to defend your characterless character.

                >characterless character.

                I'll take a lot of shit-talking about Rescue Team but the blatant LIE that the Rescue Team partner is a handholding doormat literal who is the one thing I will NEVER stand for.

                's a literally who, who only exists to hold your hand
                Wrong, they're their own fucking person? Explorers Partner is the literal who doormat here.

                Debunked. Read the thread.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mass replying
                hoes are mad

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Retarded zoomer meme
                Oh, of course… classic Explorersfags.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Schizobabbling about zoomers out of literally nowhere
                hoes are still mad

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ousts self with a zoom zoom meme
                >Most Explorerstards are zoomers who grew up with the game so they defend it with their life
                It’s not rocket science, my friend.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not reading your copeblog, stay mad

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ...as opposed to the zoomers who grew up with rescue team that came out a few years prior...?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just stop talking to him retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You haven't debunked anything. You're just stating your opinions as facts. I've posted numerous examples of evidence, but fine.
                https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Partner_Pok%C3%A9mon_(Mystery_Dungeon)
                But since I know you'll make more excuses, I'll summarize what little's there
                >Partner has no true goal of their own, they only exist to pull you along and react to things that happen in your vicinity
                >Partner does nothing when they're not with you
                >By the end they're just another pokemon to choose from in the friend area menu.
                Compared to Explorers, who has a clear, defined goal from the start, emotions and a personality beyond an aimless cheerleader, and remains by your side for the entire game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Partner_Pok%C3%A9mon_(Mystery_Dungeon)
                Now what is this supposed to prove? They're both descriptions of the main storyline, not anything having to do with the Partner's personality. The Explorers story having more to it, thus equaling more [WORDS WORDS WORDS], which is a COMMON complaint of your shitty ass game.
                >I've posted numerous examples of evidence, but fine.
                No, you've presented your opinion as fact. Rescue Team's Partner is a character and there are screenshots, which I literally directed you towards, to prove that point. You lost the argument because your main point was debunked. Further proof that RT partner is INDEED a character that does not exist to simp for you 24/7 in pic related.
                has no true goal of their own, they only exist to pull you along and react to things that happen in your vicinity
                does nothing when they're not with you
                This is LITERALLY the Explorers partner?? Oh but because there's no Friend Area or postgame mind 'wiping' it's fine when Explorers does it? Please.
                >Compared to Explorers, who has a clear, defined goal from the start, emotions and a personality beyond an aimless cheerleader, and remains by your side for the entire game.
                This is the Rescue Team partner.

                Not reading your copeblog, stay mad

                The zoom-zoom way of arguing isn't going to win this.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >N-NO! U!
                Is not an argument, retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point. It doesn't describe the story, it describes the partner's role in the story, including their personality/character. Keep making excuses if you want, my point's been made, and you clearly have nothing but excuses.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point has been made SEVERAL times, but you stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to hear. That and your friend who keeps spouting retarded bait. I don’t see any concrete evidence flat out showcasing how RT’s partner is ‘characterless,’ so I believe I’ll accept your concession.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You conceded the moment you starting resorting to insults.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No matter how wrong he is you replying to him seriously is the only way he can win. Retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You think I don't know that? If I stop midway, then the bait was successful, and this same retarded bait string'll infest every thread like this going forward. The best option is to excuse it and make them move back onto SV bait threads.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Have you considered that people who don't agree with you may not be baiting
                Sorry we're not discussing your definitely on topic gay porn fanfics and LARPs

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's pretty obviously bait

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They are when they start parroting the same (region)tard, (generation)fag, etc insults and use the same no u """""argumentation""""" that's made this board near unusable.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Exhaust it*

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Just move onto actual dungeon crawler/roguelike games that don't suffer from 'Pokemon-ization'
        Gimme some to try. For the record, I really enjoyed Etrian Mystery Dungeon. I like building up a party of guys and preparing for big quests more than having all my stuff nuked when I die. My second favorite is Zettai Hero Project which is also a Rougelite that goes balls to the wall with leveling, but you only play as one dude. If there's more I'd like to try them.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but really the best thing to do is to Google stuff. If you liked "building up a party of guys and preparing for big quests" you'll love the rest of the Etrian Odyssey games even though they're not roguelikes, as well as Legend of Grimrock, you might as well go try out stuff like Baldur's Gate, Divinity, Pillars of Eternity, etc and see how you enjoy them. If you want to go down more the roguelite route more, I should warn there's very few games without permadeath. Darkest Dungeon allows you to have a party, Siralim is actually fairly similar to PMD at least with surface level comparisons, Dungeon Rats (if you like this absolutely play the game it comes from, Age of Decadence). I've not played it but Undernauts: Labyrinth of Yomi is supposed to be excellent and sounds similar to what you want.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which is better to emu? The GBA or DS one?
    I played Sky back in the day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The ds one is slightly faster, they're not really significantly different

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The ds one is slightly faster, they're not really significantly different

      Doesn't the DS version have audio problems or something?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would pick the one that fits your screen better.
      So if you've just got a normal widescreen monitor then Red, but if you have two screens or you're playing on a smartphone then Blue.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play Explorers of Sky, it's the "Emerald" version of the Explorers games. I didn't like some of the things that changed from RT like the kangaskhan storage, and Kecleon being useless but the game is really good. The soundtrack is even better than RT's.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      such soul

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Somewhat unrelated, but does anyone know any fanfic where the MC joins with/is the bad guy?

    >(Actually, why is there no popular villain protagonists stories? Even those that have a "bad guy" protag end up somewhat redeemed or fight an even bigger, badder evil that makes them look good in the end...)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they’re cringe? That’s a cringe idea. Grow up. Heroic acts are better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Because it's cringe

        Yeah, it's also cringe to film yourself doing a fortnite dance & posting it on the internet, that didn't stop them from doing it tho...
        What I'm asking is WHY is there no popular villainous PMD story, with how the media normally portraits villains as "cool" & "awesome"

        And don't answer me with the
        >They're kids who grow out of it when they mature or gain an ounce of skill
        Because I know someone out there is autistic enough to stick with that story until it becomes either good, or a literary universe of it's own...

        Pic rel btw

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Villains are meant to be cringed at and defeated, not supported. That’s why there’s nothing like what you seek.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yet they can have 2 times the substance of any hero. From magnificent bastards, to simple minded evil-doers, queer antagonists, misguided palladins, revenge seekers, playful tricksters, etc etc...

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus Christ I need a new current gen entry already

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's the hold up?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        probably just the dudes running the franchise not feeling like it'll be profitable enough.
        Plus they're already running their current staff half to death to keep with their ridiculous release schedule so i doubt they can even start making another title without hiring another studio or something, which they ain't gonna do.
        Honestly really sad that gen 7 isn't getting its own PMD. Just chilling on the beach with your partner would be sick.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          GF doesn't make PMD.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but wouldn't they be in charge of allowing another studio to take it up? Isn't there like a unified head running the whole franchise?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, they're called The Pokemon Company and Spike Chunsoft....

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these threads have to devolve into some autist screaming about
    >REEEEEEEEEEE NOT HARD NUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    Dude go play explorers of hell if you want difficulty, jesus christ.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Hell
      >Difficulty
      It's not even close to remotely hard, it's just overleveled over-grinding shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DISCUSS MY GAMES
      >YOU SHOULD TALK ABOUT [shitty buggy broken romhack] INSTEAD
      lol
      lmao, even

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry, sir. You need to discuss my gay yiff fanfiction. Discussing the quality of the games and pointing out flaws? Not allowed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gay yiff fanfiction
          So the reason why people even like PMD?
          Absolutely not a single person who says PMD is the best Pokemon game ever likes it because of the gameplay

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know, that's why it's funny watching them cry when you call their game mediocre because they can't actually defend against it

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder Explorersfags will shit and clap and piss themselves over this kind of partner. Have SOME self-respect when you look for a friend, people.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Rescucks are still malding

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't imagine what it must do to a guy to be the only person who likes rescue team over explorers when everywhere you go people taut the superiority of explorers

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >J-Just stop talking to him, sisters! Surely we’ll win then!
    Explorerstards proving they don’t know how to defend their game. I don’t need to prove anything else, I laid you all bare for this thread to see.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I'm being objective here, if you don't like the roguelike genre you should stay away from PMD. The only reason why people parrot it has a good story is because every other pokemon game has a much worse story and none of these people have ever played another series or are captured by nostalgia.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It's bait because it disagrees with my worldview, headcanon, etc.
    Alright, Explorerskeks. Alright. Not everyone agrees with you, please learn that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Not everyone agrees with you
      ?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >All of this shitflinging
    How, all of these games are basically the same minus Gates.
    Play a REAL MD game like Shiren. Please I don't want MD to die.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >how
      a terrible combination of autism and board sabotage that's been going on for years. There isn't a single title you can discuss that doesn't devolve into this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Play a REAL MD game like Shiren.
      You first

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I intend on playing Shiren after I finish my rescue team replay. I even have a copy of the ds remake

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Play a REAL MD game like Shiren.
      Why?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shut the fuck up

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rescuesisters...we got too cocky...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Rescuesisters
      Doesn't exist, even women won't play it over the supreme pmd

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    0/10 games until I can come back as a human to fuck friends proper

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did the composer of this game compose for the other mystery dungeon games

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, the dragon quest guy did torneko and shiren

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